https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPH SXUS0_1c

>>81324802
really gets the neurons firing...

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>>81324802
Why's he dressed like Steve Bannon?

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>>81324802
>It's a "I'm a conservative, even if every opinion I actually express aligns with liberalism" character

>>81324802

i liked shows like this and West Wing, fun characters, biased political views don't bother me

wtf i hate america now ?!?

>>81324802
>"Canada has freedom"
>can't speak out against islam anymore

damn this really made me think..

>>81325102

This video is a bit outdated.

America isn't great but other places really are ramping up to the same level of shittiness we're at, if not worse since our freedom of speech is at least enshrined.

Also nobody would ask such a dumb fucking question (did that take place in a university?) if so, especially not there.

>>81324802
*nailed it*

>>81325228
>Nobody would ask such a stupid question, especially not college kids studying journalism

Whoooo boi

conservatards BTFO

I see this about once a month on kikebook and its always a white trash/wigger kid who ended up in prison for check fraud or a single mom who has a close familly member who died of a heroin OD.

>>81325303

They would ask the exact opposite question considering the SJW and BLM faggot bullshit political climate happening now, especially if they were a dumb broad.

what country is better than america? In terms of quality of life, influence, and power?

>>81324802
>say obvious things in a patronizing way
>audience is shocked, people are crying, clapping is at 30% power
So this is the power of kino for american intellectuals...

>>81325403
>In terms of quality of life, influence, and power?
Germany, but not by much at all.

>>81325403
Unironically Britain is by far superior to modern US in terms of quality of life. As for power, why do you care?

>>81325443
i'd rather live anywhere else in europe than in the uk. it seems so sterile and fake.

Fuck off >>>/pol/tard

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>>81325612
nigger

>>81324802
Allison pill had no fucking chemistry with anyone one that trainwreck of a show.

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>>81325612
/tv/ is a board for white nationalists who enjoy watching Riefenstahl kino

>>81325228
Can an American tell me how American liberals reconcile the shittiness of Southern states with the fact that blacks are ~50% of the population of most of those states?

>>81325567
>i'd rather live anywhere else in europe
Do you know a language? Do you give a shit about any other culture? Do you have cash to survive in most EU countries that have no jobs? Your choice in Europe really is Brits, Frogs and Krauts. Krauts are dead inside and frogs are cunts.

>>81325443
>As for power, why do you care?

because leverage with foreign affairs and to maintain peace

>>81325443
Have you been there? The UK probably has the most power and influence in Europe but their quality of life is shit.

>>81325897
>The UK probably has the most power and influence in Europe
lol, no. Germany has that, thus flooding europe with """immigrants"""

>>81325804
they don't, any discussion of a supposed link between black people and crime/poverty is taboo unless it's apologia and self flagellation.

>>81325897
I guess that depends on your lifestyle. If you prefer to live in a cardboard meme house on a cardboard meme house street in the middle of nowhere, US is the place to be. If you want to live in a place where humans are supposed to live, surrounded by culture and history, UK is there for you. Go to a place like Oxford and tell me there's a better place to live anywhere in the world.

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>>81325804
They just shit on the equally shitty, predominantly white flyovers instead.

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>>81326101
Would you rather live in the middle of this picture or in US suburbs? Come on son, human beans are supposed to live in places of culture

>>81326139
>equally shitty, predominantly white flyovers

Yeah but those states have nothing on the crime rates of black-majority areas

>>81325403
Any of them Euro countries with weird names and better healthcare, job security, education, crime rates, child mortality rates, higher standard of living, etc.

Though, some say that's on the way out for a lot of them, for various reasons.

>>81326010

They say being black isn't the reason, but rather the fact that they're poor

>>81326148

I'd rather live in the country, you fucking plebeian.

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>>81326226
>but rather the fact that they're poor
>the poorest white-majority counties still have crime rates considerably lower than black-majority areas

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>>81326063

>didn't win the olympics

>>81326381
White poor culture isn't about glorifying rebellion against society though, not really an apt comparison. This is just another example of how extremists are retarded anyway. SJWs will claim it's a simple issue based on their agenda, alt right neckbeards will claim it's a simple issue based on their agenda. The truth is not simple, it's complicated. All idealogues are morons.

>>81326148
>muh culture
Just give me space. A big house, a big yard, fuck off, and no tresspassing (violators will be shot)

>>81325012
>he thinks the tea party fags are conservatives

haha

>>81326148

As if you have a job that you can afford to live there

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>>81326805
>"I'm a classic liberal"

>>81326737
Welcome to Siberia comrade

>>81324802
stop i get enough of that shit on /f/

>>81326805
They're the only real conservatives actually. The alt-right pussies are just neonazis and the rest is RINOs. I stand with bated breath waiting for you to tell me how the democrats are actually right wing though and how MUH ONLY IN AMERICAN POLITICS like I give a shit how much the rest of the world likes big government up their ass.

>>81326436
>All idealogues are morons.
irony

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>>81324802
>canada has freedom
>law forbids criticism to Islam.

>>81326898
>implying anyone uses /f/

>>81326917
your ideology is dying almost as fast as neoliberalism. you don't get to define "conservative".

>>81326880
That exists in America, it's called Alaska and it kicks ass and it's where some of the last real Americans live. Can't believe you euros like that urban crush of people and the closet sized apartments and people's hot opinions on how you should live your life. What a shitfire.

>>81326805
>I am so a conservative! I just believe we need to loosen abortion restrictions, raise taxes to cover government spending, restrict gun ownership...

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>all those countries have freedoms dude LMAO
>can't even own guns to defend your own property
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

>>81326960
im not even kinda mad that no one on /tv/ uses /f/

>>81326960
>'neoliberalism'
I have never in my life heard this term used by anyone that wasn't some strain of socialist. Kindly shove it up your ass, I could give a fuck what passes through the mind of one of you people.

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>Belgium is a free country
>country

>>81324802

Question from a non-American;

If Americans hate America so much, why not just move somewhere better?

>>81326148
>not wanting to live in a spacious suburban home with a freshly mowed lawn and a decked out backyard with a pool for BBQs

Total pleb. US suburban culture is literally based on pleb tier workers who still manage to live comfortably and luxuriously, that's the whole point. Of course I'd take it over cramped yuropoor housing

>>81325443

As someone who has lived in both countries, you are so far off the mark and deluded, it's not funny. Britain is fucking horrible. As is nearly all of Europe.

Although none of you can compete with the toilet that is France.

>>81327097
They're bitches and bitches love to bitch. If they weren't here they'd have nothing to bitch about. Just look at all the fucking Hollywood blowhards that claimed they'd move to Canada if Trump won. Those people have NO EXCUSE for not keeping their word and yet here they remain.

>>81327068
>ne·o-lib·er·al·ism
>a modified form of liberalism tending to favor free-market capitalism.

in effect it's liberals that suck their donors' dicks with extra vigor and are in favor of foreign interventions to save the sandniggers from themselves, instead of the kind of liberals that protest about criminals getting shot

also i am a socialist, a national one :^)

>>81324802
The most hilarious part is after he rattles off all his retarded statistics "wtf is 22nd in Science?" he basically runs into a full blown endorsement of Trump.

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>"I'm a centrist"
>Never mind that I only attack Conservatives and conservative values I'm actually in the ebin middle ground

>>81327015

It's a stupid point, because it's not true.

He mentions Australia. I'm an Australian. We have the freedom to shut up and sit down. We officially have no freedom of speech and our Senate just vetoed giving us a little bit more. We can be spied on by anyone on the government without a warrant. We can have our government FIRED and replaced on a whim by an unelected head of state. As far as your "undocumented Australians" go? We lock them up in prison camps on offshore cannibal islands.

There is no country remotely free as the U.S.

I can technically be jailed just for coming to this shitty site.

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>>81324802
>america was better when it was whiter and jim crow still existed in major cities

esoteric sorkin?

>>81325804
Because the shittiness of those states doesn't come from the black population. The politics in those states are dominated by white southerners and have always been dominated by white southerners. The extremist policies they enact in those states are the cause of all the problems there, and it's always been the shittiest part of the country.

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>>81327221
>tfw people on the left unironically told me they're proud that we don't have the freedom to shit on "persecuted minorities" in Aus
>mfw they defending the arrests of people that express an opinion they didn't like

>>81324802
Retarded, college students would all be asking about how evil and terrible America is and why its always been this way, etc. The concept that a bunch of 20 year old millenials who are almost universally "dude BLM lmao" faggots would be shocked or in awe at a rant like this is utterly retarded

>>81327165
>a modified form of liberalism tending to favor free-market capitalism.
That's all liberalism is to begin with. That's like fucking saying neosocialism is a modified form of socialism tending to favor a planned economy, it's nonsense. It's all scarewords to frighten imbeciles.
>also i am a socialist, a national one :^)
It always tickles me that the nazis think they're different than any other kind of mutation of this shit.

>>81327264

Had a family dinner argument over it.

>IT ONLY APPLIES TO BAD PEOPLE

>What about those guys in QLD?

>THEY GOT CLEARED AFTER SEVERAL YEARS

>Great. So you have to pay tens of thousands of dollars in law fees and spend years in the court system to stop yourself from being prosecuted based on hurt feelings?

>DO YOU JUST WANT THE RIGHT TO BULLY PEOPLE

>I thought you believed it free speech

>ASSAULT IS NOT FREE SPEECH

>So what about if I insult Islam?

>...NO THAT'S DIFFERNT

>But it's not. It's against the law. We'll have a blasphemy law soon

>THEN COMPLAIN ABOUT IT THEN

They just don't give a fuck. Anything the ABC tells them must be true.

>IT'S ONLY CONSERVATIVES COMPLAINING ABOUT IT

>Yes, and eventually they'll use the laws on you, like they already are with atheists

>NO THEY WON'T BECAUSE RRRRRRREEEEEEEEE

>>81327301

"Neo-Liberalism" was invented because American faggots in the 60's hijacked and redefined the term.

Meanwhile, in the rest of the world, Liberals are seen this way;

https://youtu.be/r3tB3LZuYSw

>>81324802
Freedom portion of the rant is stupid, the US is still the only nation on Earth (as far as I know) which actually maintains TRUE freedom of speech and expression. Most """free"""" Euro countries can have you fined and/or arrested for saying things the state doesn't like, an ironic twist considering a lot of it is in the name of anti-fascism.

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>>81327168
>conservative values

>>81327301
liberalism doesn't have a consistent definition, that's just the one you've projected on it. the specification is necessary.

also you might find that natsocs don't actually think they're any better than socialists. they've just come to the conclusion that the current social order isn't stable, and when it collapses it'd better be replaced by something that benefits them instead of anarchy or a leftist utopian mess (which will then become a dictatorship of some unknown form).

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>>81324802
>muh statistics
You can literally pin-point crypto leftists when they talk about freedom as if it was something created by the government and given to the people, so that the more the gov. "cares" about the people, the more freedom they have. Public services and welfare are not rights, so fuck off.

>>81327398

I said it up here >>81327221

Europe is even worse than Australia.

Nowhere has Freedom like the U.S.

You faggots can even buy weed in shops in some places. That will still get your ass stuck in jail here, and pigs don't need to produce a warrant to kick down your door to get it.

>>81325012
literally the reverse Sargon

>>81327407
>liberalism doesn't have a consistent definition, that's just the one you've projected on it.
No, its definition is the one I stated. The world is fairly clear on what liberalism traditionally means: free markets and free people, liberalism as in liberty. 'Neoliberalism' is anonsense babybabble word made up by butthurt socialists looking to do more of their social engineering. It's a bafflingly legitimized form of scare parentheses.
>and when it collapses it'd better be replaced by something that benefits them instead of anarchy or a leftist utopian mess (which will then become a dictatorship of some unknown form).
But nazism is a leftist utopian mess and a dictatorship to boot.

>>81327399
Too honest and rational for you drumpfkins?

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>>81327398
https://rsf.org/en/ranking

> US 41
> Below Slovenia, Sewth Efriceh, Belize and motherfucking Tonga

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA BURGERS BTFO FOREVER!

>>81325830
Netherlands is the best option. Literally everyone here speaks fluent english and they dont give a shit if you care about their country or language

>>81327601
>dude let's survey sociologists and see how free they think their country is lmao

In terms of actual law and protections for freedom of speech and expression (as well as firearms and self-defense laws obviously) the US is still on top

>>81327546
a dictatorship or fragmentation/anarchy are the realistic outcomes when american civil society has run its course. the idea is that if a dictator is brought to power through populism then they're confined to a set of institutional norms that mean they have to at least marginally act in the peoples' favor. the alternative of trying to form a socialist utopia is inevitable failure and then probably a dictatorship with undefined characteristics that most certainly won't be in anyone but the dictator's favor.

the truth of the matter is that most people have already rejected a lot of your "tradition", so you've already lost the battle. the new norm has shifted. you're just a fringe, like neo nazis. and let's be clear, what liberalism "traditionally" means has no bearing on its colloquial use. the US even has a completely different definition from the rest of the world. tradition has no meaning if nobody partakes in it.

>>81327601
>muh positive liberties
:^):^):^)

>>81324802
Really integrated my matrices.

>>81327697
> Be American
> Have the freedom to be stuck in poverty
> Have the freedom to get shot and robbed
> Have to freedom to not be able to write government critical articles
> Have the freedom to not be able to whistleblow without the government trying to kill you
> i-i-i can have guns though

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>>81327816
t. yuropoor

You can literally be thrown into jail for posting the wrong thing here, not freedom in my book

>>81327816
> Have the freedom to be stuck in poverty
> Have the freedom to get shot and robbed
> Have to freedom to not be able to write government critical articles
> Have the freedom to not be able to whistleblow without the government trying to kill you
Are you implying europeans have those freedoms? Cause protip: they do not.

>>81324802
He kind of forgets that america is first in GDP.
Sort of an important thing to overlook.
Also he kind of forgets that no country has as much free speech as the us. Sort of an important thing to overlook.

>>81324802
He's not wrong desu senpai

>>81327251
>this level of delusion

>>81324802
this is so reddit

>>81327816

That's still more freedoms than us Yuropoors get :(

God I hate Sorkin shit so much.

>>81327251
Except the same issues exist anywhere with black populations not just the south

>>81327715
>a dictatorship or fragmentation/anarchy are the realistic outcomes when american civil society has run its course.
The basic American character is fundamentally incompatible with dictatorship, most people already chafe at the tresspasses the government has been making into private life. At worst they'll be a balkanization of the country into two, liberals who pine for european style socialism and normal small government conservatives.
>the idea is that if a dictator is brought to power through populism then they're confined to a set of institutional norms that mean they have to at least marginally act in the peoples' favor. the alternative of trying to form a socialist utopia is inevitable failure and then probably a dictatorship with undefined characteristics that most certainly won't be in anyone but the dictator's favor.
This is at once both illogically optimistic and comically defeatist. I'm not really sure where to begin. There is an alternative to the citizen relinquishing power or having it taken from him: keeping it. The Founding Fathers managed it.
>the truth of the matter is that most people have already rejected a lot of your "tradition", so you've already lost the battle. the new norm has shifted.
>a neonazi calling a normal small-government conservative 'fringe'
Fucking kek, only on 4chan. Men that believe what I believe are on the supreme court of the United States of America, men that believe what you believe are...I couldn't even say. Doing speed in converted shooting ranges I assume.
>and let's be clear, what liberalism "traditionally" means has no bearing on its colloquial use.
No, the new terms sociologist cultural engineers introduce to muddy discussion have no effect on what words mean. I withdraw totally from this transparent 1984 attempt at newspeak and use words with the definition that they have, not the definition sociologists are working to create. Why would I assist them in their destructive endeavor?

>>81325897
>UK
>influence in Europe
They literally sperged out because the severe cucking they were receiving and that's nothing compared to the Brexit negotiations

>>81327816
>> Have the freedom to be stuck in poverty
Right off the bat you start off with a fucking positive 'liberty'. Yuropoors are fucking mentally retarded. You have the right to the PURSUIT of happiness, not fucking happiness itself, that's not something government can provide for you. This is like saying 'the freedom not to have your ass wiped'.

>>81326148
>dude neogothic lmao
laughing_europeans.jpg

>>81327604
Too tiny. You don't have a single big city.

>>81328075
>basic American character is fundamentally incompatible with dictatorship
Is this why you're okay with TSA agents groping your wife and daughter every time you board a plane?
Americans will swallow anything as long as 'cool man on tv' tells them it's okay to do so.

>>81328075
Not that guy but
>normal small government conservatives
There's nothing "small government" about conservatism.
>neonazi
You keep using that word, I don't you know what that means.
Ethnic nationalism isn't the same as nazism. Ethnic nationalism was basically the default stance of most countries that weren't empires, and even within empires, it was the default stance of the central country inside the empire (see, Churchill).

>>81325228
>nobody would ask such a dumb fucking question

Have you met your average American?

>>81328127
>neogothic
What if I told you Europe has architecture that doesn't start with neo or ends with revival.

>>81328147
>Is this why you're okay with TSA agents groping your wife and daughter every time you board a plane?
Oh spare me the fucking outrage at the terrible tresspass of having someone wave a beeping wand over your balls. I can't even fucking conceive of how sheltered and breathtakingly goddamn basic you must be to think that's dictatorship. I bet you're the type of person that screams 'fascist' at people that advocate the privatization of health systems, you fucking dumbass.

>>81328075
i honestly wonder if conservatives are aware that nobody likes them. pretty much the only things keeping republicans in power are gerrymandering, democrat incompetence, and the fact that people like me voted for trump letting the rest of the party squeeze in on his coattails. it's not something you can rely on, and as time passes the institutional power conservatives still hold will age out just like your cultural influence did.

on the topic of what will happen when the current incarnation of american democracy dies out, i won't fault anyone for their beliefs. forming successful democracy requires a huge amount of shared public trust though and that obviously isn't there right after democracy has broken down.

>>81328166
>There's nothing "small government" about conservatism.
What country are you from?
>Ethnic nationalism isn't the same as nazism. Ethnic nationalism was basically the default stance of most countries that weren't empires, and even within empires, it was the default stance of the central country inside the empire (see, Churchill).
You claimed to be a national socialist earlier.

>>81328210
You still gladly surrendered a huge swath of your 'liberty' when BIG BAD TERRORISTS did 9/11.
Sugarcoat it all you want, it's done and dusted.

>>81328218
>i honestly wonder if conservatives are aware that nobody likes them
They sort of are but they think they can turn it around. Which is impossible, because a) demographics are destiny and whites are on their way out in the US b) being a conservative is fundamentally uncool, you're never going to convince young people to be conservative en masse. Conservatism in america is like a stage 4 pancreatic cancer: sure, he's not dead now but he might as well be.

>>81328259
that's not me he actually uses the shift key. there's an important distinction between national socialism and nazism though in that nazism carries a lot more implications than the centralized government, mixed economy, and ethnonationalism of the former.

>>81328259
American conservatives don't care about small government at all, they're all for big governments when it comes to the corporations they like and when it comes to the military.

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>>81325443
Britain is an Orwellian story brought to life.

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>>81328218
>i honestly wonder if conservatives are aware that nobody likes them. pretty much the only things keeping republicans in power are gerrymandering, democrat incompetence, and the fact that people like me voted for trump letting the rest of the party squeeze in on his coattails. it's not something you can rely on, and as time passes the institutional power conservatives still hold will age out just like your cultural influence did.
Idiots and children/teenagers (it's funny I imply there's a difference) don't like us because we refuse to promise people 'free' shit, just the freedom to work and live and succeed or fail by your own talent without the state raping you up the ass for everything you're worth or actively sabotaging you along the way. We get killed with the youth vote but thankfully people eventually grow up and realize bureaucrats are cocksuckers.

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>>81327097
This,butthurt yanks should trade places with me so I can enjoy their "shithole".

>>81328268
Even at our most agitated and scared the freedom we relinquished is still not nearly as much as you willingly gave away before anything even fucking happened. I'd say "Imagine the response if Sandy Hook happened in Europe" but you people didn't even need something like that to give up your guns to begin with. You are scum.

>>81326148
Uhh US suburbs...

At least I can shoot my guns here

>>81328369
>We get killed with the youth vote but thankfully people eventually grow up and realize bureaucrats are cocksuckers.
They don't, the just get slightly more conservative with respect to what they were when they were young. Which means with each generation, they get less and less conservative.
Also,
>just the freedom to work and live and succeed or fail by your own talent
I'd like some "I was born in middle or upper class family so everything is much easier for me compared to someone from a poor background" talent. Where can I get it?
By the way, the fact that you're so focused on conservatism as "fewer taxes" is the reason why conservatism is dead. You're more materialist than a fucking marxist.

>>81325403
In terms of quality of life, plenty of countries. Particularly Scandinavian countries and Australia & New Zealand

>>81328288
Nazism is just a shortened form of national socialism. What the fuck are you on about.
>>81328301
Democrat talking points. The RINOs are despised because they follow the democrat-style politics of patronage that FDR made a permanent part of his party. Conservatives as opposed to RINOs still tow the same line they always have, take as an example Ted Cruz reiterating he's against corn subsidies while campaigning in Iowa. Imagine any democrat in living memory doing that in a million billion fucking years.

>>81328419
I'm not saying we euroserfs are better. I am saying there is really no true liberty left in the world. In lawless shitholes like Somalia maybe.

>>81327890
>first in GDP
That's no indicator of anything. GDP per capita is another story

>>81328563
>That's no indicator of anything
lmao

>>81328578
India's GDP is bigger than Canada, South Korea, Australia, Netherlands, etc
Are you saying that India's living condition for instance, are better than those countries?

>>81328680
You didn't say "it's not a reliable indicator of living conditions", you said "that's no indicator of anything" which is patently false.

Non-american here.

America IS the best country in the world. The problem is though that it's only great for you if you are resourceful, smart and work hard.

Best universities to go to and learn stuff - USA
Best companies to go and work for - USA
Best country to start a small business or startup - USA

Literally the 3 routes for success in life are all what the US is renowned for. That's why successful people flock to it rather than the other way around.

On the flipside if you are going to be a lazy degenerate who drops out of school, deals drugs, or gets pregnant at 16 it might be the worst country for you. Because america isnt going to make up for your own fuckups.

>>81328709
It's indicator of the wealth that country produces. But you can't infer if that's good or bad.

>>81328726
>On the flipside if you are going to be a lazy degenerate who drops out of school, deals drugs, or gets pregnant at 16 it might be the worst country for you. Because america isnt going to make up for your own fuckups.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzspsovNvII

>>81328448
>They don't, the just get slightly more conservative with respect to what they were when they were young. Which means with each generation, they get less and less conservative.
Actually you'll find the older someone gets the more conservative they are regardless of other issues or what part of the political spectrum they started out on. Take for instance James Cagney who went from a reputed communist to a fucking mossback to the right of Reagan by the end of his life.
>I'd like some "I was born in middle or upper class family so everything is much easier for me compared to someone from a poor background" talent. Where can I get it?
God, is there anything more tedious than class envy? How exactly does it hurt you that someone has started out with more than you? You realize the economy is not zero-sum, correct? Well shit, you might not considering the intellectual quality of the modern leftist. Is someone being born middle class affecting your capacity to succeed? Do you believe you are entitled to a share of what this anonymous person's parents worked for all their lives on the basis of...what? What exactly?
>By the way, the fact that you're so focused on conservatism as "fewer taxes" is the reason why conservatism is dead. You're more materialist than a fucking marxist.
Says the faggot that not two goddamn sentences ago was resenting people for being a higher class than him. You neonazis are such confused fucking sons of marx it is a genuine disgrace. You're legitimately are all over the place. Same old fucking rhetoric with a bonus dose of social alienation. There was a time when you people stuck to the sewers and left decent folk alone.

>>81328737
It's undeniably better for the country to have a high GDP than to have a low GDP ceteris paribus.

>>81328726
Meh, I literally know a lazy drug dealer in his 30's who never finished school yet still buys a new car every few months from all the money he makes. I also know several people our age who work their asses off and still make less than $20 an hour. You don't need to romanticize us.

>>81328804
That drug dealer is taking much greater risks so he makes more money. Makes sense to me.

>>81328768
What's a high GDP?
Is Monaco's GDP high?

>>81328804
I said work hard and be smart, if all you can do is work hard at mcdonalds its not good enough. That drug dealer's life will catch up with him eventually and those people working honest jobs will likely end up moving up or leveraging their experience into better things.

>>81328827
That's true. Hard work combined with entrepreneurship is what opens avenues. Hard work for a faceless company won't get you anywhere.

>>81328841
These people have jobs that required a college degree. Actually, working at McDonald's probably would have been better for them, as they'd move up much quicker and possibly be managing their own store by now.

>>81328877
>These people have jobs that required a college degree

The degree has got to be in something stupid then.

>>81328766
>Actually you'll find the older someone gets the more conservative they are
Yes, because when they were young, the overton window was more to the right. Old people don't revert to some gold standard of conservatism, they just get more conservative with time with respect to what they were when they were young.
>How exactly does it hurt you that someone has started out with more than you?
Are you seriously so naive that you can't think of any ways that might impact someone from a poor background?
Let's try this one
>want to get into a good college
>number of people who can get in is fixed
>people from good backgrounds are more likely to have lead less stressful lives, they have more resources, they were better educated and son
>people from good backgrounds disproportionately get into those colleges
Let's try this other one
>be in a firm
>want to get promoted
>people from good colleges received better credentials and had better networking
>as we know from the previous step, people from good backgrounds disproportionately get in good colleges
>people from good backgrounds disproportionately get promoted
Let's try another one, since you look like you don't have much imagination or factual knowledge
>want to start business
>need to take out loan
>banks are more likely to loan to you if you're from a good background because you have more resources behind you
>even excluding that, you're more likely to repay that loan and go through worse periods of the economy because guess what? more resources
>people from better backgrounds disproportionately have more successful businesses

Get it now?

>>81328833
I meant higher and lower.

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>>81327221
>tfw Aussies shitpost so much on here because they have no other truly public outlet to do so in their own country
>their shitposting is a cry for help and "good on ya m8" for being truly free

Y-you shitcunts aren't all so bad....

>>81328898
What's the difference? The positions required a college degree. Sounds like you're moving the goalposts.

Also, I don't get why people shit on the food service industry in the first place. There's levels to every industry.

>>81328931
Because I said you got to be smart. Getting a degree in something that yields shitty jobs is the opposite of smart. Fuck that was like the most important thing when I chose my degree.

>>81328946
36% of adults 25 to 34 years old have a college degree. From there, what percentage of those degrees do you arbitrarily consider "smart"?

>>81325418

As a german I can tell you, we do not have more power than the u.s.

The fuck?

>>81328387
I love this strawman.

Centrists do have convictions, you groupthinking nigger. It's just that our convictions don't fall entirely down party lines. Enjoy your partisan politics circle-jerk and your Xbox vs. Playstation brandwars, you mouthbreathing mongoloid.

>>81329039

This post right here, I love it.

>>81328987
The ones that lead to gainful employment

>>81329085
Upvote!

>>81329088
So only that small percentage of degrees will lead to the possibility success here.

Or, ya know, just dealing pills to suburban pill junkies.

The world is textbook simple.

>>81328901
>IT'S NOT AS EASY FOR ME AS IT IS FOR THEM!
Goodness, how unfortunate. Truly, let us get the state involved. End inheritance! All monies must go to our honest and incorruptible government functionaires to be redistributed among the people. Who cares if a man worked hard all his life and saved to give his children a leg up? That dirty capitalist pig, why wasn't he thinking about YOU!? But wait. Some people are born smarter, faster, stronger, hell, BETTER than other people. How shall we contend with this terrible scourge of innate inequality God has afflicted his sinful children with? Perhaps we could blind one of the eyes of people with sharp sight, or hobble those that are too quick, or trepane the intelligent. Some people have better parents than others. Perhaps we can get state educators to take in children when they're young to make sure everyone is getting an equal education, preferably with a side-dose of propaganda letting them all now how great the system they're now living under is. Nevermind the fact that in eighty percent of cases the children of vast inherited wealth squander it within two (TWO) generations.

Get it through your head you seething, covetous little dumbshit: inequality is not something any government will ever be able to fix, because despite all the affirmations of Marx on down success in a capitalist society has always been more about talent than money. Ironically, the regulations and bureaucracies pigs like you call for actually emphasize and hamstring the most significant advantages the small independent businessman has over the huge moneyed interests: the inability for him to lobby the goverment to pick him as a winner by passing some new set of regulations to hobble his competitors. The agility of being able move from product to product and innovation to innovation without having to deal with a huge entrenched corporate apparatus and momentum. Your method just makes it so in nearly all cases the one with the most money wins.

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>>81328987
STEM and business degrees are statistically shown to yield the most high-paying jobs.

Example:
>graduate from UF (Go Gators) in 2014 with degree in linguistics and history (and roughly $38k in debt)
>history degree is mostly for fun, linguistics degree is what I decided on to get into the government (eventually wanted to get into FBI, NSA or CIA for intelligence)
>apply to even low-level government jobs that I'm technically overqualified for
>never hear back except to say no
>don't wanna get a Master's and be in even MORE debt, so I try to get into the Navy
>Navy doesn't work out after a year (not looking for officers, which is what I would've been with my degree) so SoL and have to work at CVS as pharm tech to start paying off loans
>Navy does get me interested in aviation ("Wanna be a pilot?") and decide to pursue that
>take out another big loan to start pilot school
>after a week into it, I'm enjoying it but not enough to want a career out of it
>still love aviation so go with dispatching instead with their school in Dallas
>get my license at fraction of the price for piloting program and 2 months later I have a job dispatching for one of United's regional airlines in Cleveland
>make only slightly more than CVS job, but enjoy it and now have a career path with great flight benefits that can get me into a cozy and well-paying position in a few years after getting experience

VERSUS

>friend who is a slacker and DUDE WEED LMAOs almost 24/7
>jumps between 5 different majors just to not fail out
>finally does internships during his 5th year
>takes 6 years to finally graduate with a degree in Chemical Engineering
>gets a job at a cardboard manufacturing company making close to six figures

There is a difference in what degree you get and what jobs are open even though we both are doing what we enjoy.

More important than degrees however, are connections.

Who you know > What you know

>>81329149
>small probability

are you an idiot? engineering, medicine, nursing, dentistry, computer science, finance, accounting, marketing, law and others all teach in demand employable skills.

>>81329198
>SEVERE ECONOMIC INEQUALITIES DON'T AFFECT YOU!
>actually, here's several why in which they affect me
>WELL IT'S NOT BAD ANYWAY
lmao, this is your level of rhetorical ability? For fuck's sake, you can't move the goalpost so blatantly and expect people to not realize it.
>End inheritance!
Never said anything like that, but keep on with your strawmen, I'm sure using every single logical fallacy ever is going to help your point.
>How shall we contend with this terrible scourge of innate inequality
We don't because we can't change genes. And, again, you're changing the subject, I was talking about economic inequalities which can and are alleviated throughout the first world with wonderful results, despite a few morons like you who first think they can't possibly be a problem, then say oh my god it's not that big of a problem, and then finally resort to "we can't do anything about it" despite the fact that we're already doing something about it. You're all over the place, everyone can see through your shitty talking points and in fact, they do so in real life all the time.
>inequality is not something any government will ever be able to fix
>WE CAN'T SOLVE SOMETHING 100% SO WE SHOULDN'T EVEN TRY TO SOLVE IT PARTIALLY
Good god how can a man be as stupid as you are? I can only imagine your conversations with your doctor
>dear anon, I'm afraid the damage in your hand can never be healed completely
>well, let's just cut if off then
>no, you see, we can save three fingers!
>no, no, cut it off, if you can't save it all then it's meaningless

Reminder that scandinavian countries have more social mobility than the US.

>>81329323
*several ways

>>81329233
I agree, who you know is crucial, not just in getting your foot in the door, but also moving up the ladder.

>>81329318
You can stop responding now. It's clear you have nothing worthwhile to say.

>>81329353
>You can stop responding now. It's clear you have nothing worthwhile to say.

Because you got blown the fuck out and are mad your retarded friends arent getting anywhere with their shitty degrees that they should have known were shitty before they started.

>>81324802
>i voted for both major parties lmao!
>barely touches liberals, rips conservative apart

good show, very unbiased.

>>81329393
Nah, it's just clear you have no real world experience and have nothing to contribute. Typical foreigner, though.

>>81329429
>I have no real world experience
>Says the guy who is surprised his friends with shitty degrees have shitty jobs

seems like you are the one who needs to grow up realize how the world works.

>>81329457
You don't. What I've said to you is real life. You don't like it. What you've said to me is romanticized posturing, which completely worthless. You actually have a lot of growing up to do.

>>81329519
>What I've said to you is real life. You don't like it.

I actually love it because it has reinforced my views.

>>81329542
I can't see how. Two of the guys have finance degrees.

>>81329401
>tfw im a conservative but admit liberals are way smarter than us and are right

>>81329323
>>SEVERE ECONOMIC INEQUALITIES DON'T AFFECT YOU!
>actually, here's several why in which they affect me
They don't. They don't fucking affect you, not anymore than someone being a strong swimmer affects you if you're a shitty swimmer. Capitalism isn't a race with a fucking finish line, 'headstarts' are meaningless. It's the best system for making sure you can aspire, work and earn. I'm sure all three of those are dirty fucking words to a socialist but thankfully in America they still mean something.
>Never said anything like that, but keep on with your strawmen, I'm sure using every single logical fallacy ever is going to help your point.
You sure implied it with your rancor at people for having the temerity to be born fucking middle class. What is your solution exactly? To the travesty of that awful middle class? The nerve of those fucking people, owning a home and shit.
>wonderful results
Skyrocketing unemployment, technological stagnation (almost ninety percent of medical innovations now come from the US), a slavering socialist benny-chasing electorate that are fit instruments to make slaves out of the rest of you and all of this only achieved in the first place by blanking on the meager defense commitments you were obligated to. Heaven help us if your results get any more fucking wonderful.
>Reminder that scandinavian countries have more social mobility than the US.
They're also one hundred percent white and fully beneath the US military umbrella and have been for seventy years, just like the rest of you parasites.

Five in the morning. Goodnight.

>>81329565
>my friends are getting paid hourly
>in finance jobs

kek. Nice try pleb.

You got btfo.

>>81329643
Hard to believe, isn't it? Another one with a law degree is still working as a paralegal.

Thing is, I like to see how stupid the person is I'm talking to before playing all my cards. Off the bat I could tell you're pretty stupid with almost no real world experience.

>>81328993
You guys run the EU and you have by and large the most money of any European country. You may not have military power but you definitely have political influence.

>>81329684
>Hard to believe, isn't it?

Because you are likely making all this shit up. The data shows that degree holders in finance and law (provided you didnt go to a joke school) make very good money.

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>>81325418
>germany
Yea the most cuck country in 2nd place to Sweden nice try shit head

>>81329720
I'm 100% not making it up. Don't want to go too much into it since you're a waste of time, but they've all had to jump companies more than several times, like pretty much everybody over the last decade.

>The data shows
I knew it. Zero real world experience.

>>81329616
>They don't. They don't fucking affect you,
I literally gave you several ways in which they do, here, read them again >>81328901
, you actually have to refute them, you can't just say "lel no".
>You sure implied it with your rancor at people for having the temerity to be born fucking middle class
lel there was no rancor, I was just explaining mere facts to you, which you still willingly ignore. You're seeing rancor because if what I say is true, you'd have to admit that a significant part of what you accomplished is due to not your talent but mere luck of being born in a decent family, which also means you got things that people with more talent than you but who grew up poorer than you should have got, and that hurts your butt like hell.
>What is your solution exactly?
oooh I don't know, things that are already ongoing? Fund the one which work the best instead of butchering them?
>They're also one hundred percent white and fully beneath the US military umbrella and have been for seventy years
Yeah, that's why they have more upper mobility even more than whites in the us, it's the military spending. For fuck's sake, you're dumb.
The rest of your post is just factual nonsense, yet again
>YOU'RE SLAVES BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT OF BEING FUCKED IN THE ASS IF YOU DON'T GROW UP MIDDLE CLASS
Wow, such terrible slavery, please save me, small government man!

>>81329750
60% white country says what?

>>81329780
Data is a reflection of the real world ya pleb

>>81328726
THIS.
>>81328804
Yet one will end up dead or in jail or hopped up on their own merchandise and the other will most likely live a fulfilling prosperous life. Choices nigga!

>>81328726
>If you choose to be born poor, too bad!
Sounds like paradise!

>>81329816
I'm black you retarded liberal. Seeing things for what they are, not for how people who want to live in ignorance tell me to see it.

>>81329881
>I'm black you retarded liberal
>liberal
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAH

>>81329843
Yes but it doesn't absolve anecdotal evidence, dingus.
>>81329849
Maybe, but he's in his 30's and making 6 figures. He also doesn't take them. You can not like it all you want, but it exists.

>>81329874
>being born poor means you will always be poor

Nice liberal brainwashing.

Statistics show that if you graduate high school and avoid having kids out of wedlock you will leave poverty.

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>>81324802

>>81330086
Statistics show that if you were born in poverty chances are you remain in poverty.

Statistics are fun!

Remember when America was respected all over the world and not a laughingstock?
Remember when America tried to get back to these times by voting a reality tv star into their highest office?

>>81330126
Because lots end people born in poverty are stupid and make terrible choices.

Graduate high school, get any job, and don't knock someone up or get knocked up.

Literally all you need to do yet so many people fail to do it.

>>81330127

America just loan sharked their way to the top by sucking the British Empire dry in the World Wars

>>81330183
>Because lots end people born in poverty are stupid and make terrible choices.
Because they come from poverty.

>Graduate high school, get any job
No, they have to get a higher level degree that guarantees gainful employment according to statistics. Working at McDonald's is not good enough, said anon in this thread.

>>81330274
>Because they come from poverty.

Being born in poverty doesnt make you poor for life. You arent going to get denied a job offer because they find out you had poor parents.

>>81330274
>No, they have to get a higher level degree that guarantees gainful employment according to statistics. Working at McDonald's is not good enough, said anon in this thread.

Yeah doing that will help. But you can still leave the poverty line by working low skilled jobs.

>>81330325
>Being born in poverty doesnt make you poor for life.
According to statistics it very significantly increases your odds of remaining in statistics.

>Yeah doing that will help.
No, someone specifically said earlier it's not good enough. I have a hunch it's you, but correct me if I'm wrong.

>>81330398
>According to statistics it very significantly increases your odds of remaining in statistics.

Correlation does not mean causation. You arent poor because your parents are poor you are poor because you made the same stupid decisions your parents made.

>No, someone specifically said earlier it's not good enough. I have a hunch it's you, but correct me if I'm wrong.

That discussion was about what it takes to be a success. This is about leaving the poverty line. Obviously the standards are lessened.

>>81329720
Yes, because it counts averages. We have those older extremely successful people that make up for all the young people struggling to land a job. A statistic displaying educated and youth unemployment is much more relevant here.

>>81330453
>be poor
>work as unskilled labor
>get cut because bosses niece wants a job and you were the newest hire or your probation period ends and the company would have to pay you an actual wage
>this is because you made poor choices

>>81330453
>You arent poor because your parents are poor you are poor because you made the same stupid decisions your parents made.
Statistics show the people born in poverty are more likely to make "stupid" decisions than people not born in poverty.

>That discussion was about what it takes to be a success. This is about leaving the poverty line.
Oh? So now there's a difference? What happened to "work hard and be smart, if all you can do is work hard at mcdonalds its not good enough."?

>>81330530
>be in ridiculous strawman situation
> just get another job anyway

>>81330570
>Statistics show the people born in poverty are more likely to make "stupid" decisions than people not born in poverty.

Yeah true.

>Oh? So now there's a difference?

Is there a difference between being a "success" and simply leaving the poverty line? Yes

If you dont think so why were complaining about your friends making slightly less than 20 dollars an hour? You should consider them successes.

>>81330576
>implying there aren't more jobless people than there are jobs

>>81330651
>this means you are doomed to unemployment for life

>>81330453
>You arent poor because your parents are poor
You're not poor because your parents are poor, you're poor because you have to pay rent and will never have enough money to own property. I've inherited some money, I know my life would've been an endless rat race if I haven't.

>tfw from Lithuania
>tfw they passed a law that if you didn't take a math exam you can't join a university/college

I fucked up lads, I fucked up

>>81330680
Everyone's life is a rat race.

>>81330672
>this means that a certain amount of people will always be poor because there are not enough jobs

The thing that this piece of shit clip implies is that no, America is not the greatest country in the world (which is what most people jizz themselves over), the real bullshit part of the clip is the implication that at one time it was and "could be" once again, if Americans just tried harder. This is not progressive, this is a deeply reactionary statement.

Shut up.

>>81330649
I do consider them successes. Some are homeowners, some have families. You insisted they got stupid degrees and made wrong life decisions. I merely chimed in with a personal experience that did not fit into your romanticized version of how you see this country. It's all good.

>>81330699
This is completely your fault because you didn't anticipate this in advance.

>>81330707
>hurrr rich people have it hard too
Real compelling argument there. If you don't have money, all you can do is work 9 to 5 to pay the bills, then you repeat and repeat and repeat and you're dead. That's the rat race. If you have enough money to quit your job and study something for a few years or even to start your own thing, you're not in the rat race, not really.

>>81330750
yes it is my fault
I'm going to kill my self soon

>>81330453
its a brainwashed america that believes working hard will get you wealth. uhoh ive got some bad news for you, you've been lied to sir

>>81330739
Read what you responded too. You responded to a post and said that although they "worked their asses off" they "only" made so much (implying you didnt think it was much)

Literally backpedalling so hard lmao.

>>81330794
jk just move abroad for university. Lithuania sucks anyways. Try Estonia.

>>81330831
It's pathetic brainwashed liberals that think people dont have control of their lives.

>>81330847
implying i have the money to move
I'm also disabled
I wonder if that would land me free gibs

>>81330782
>If you have enough money to quit your job and study something for a few years or even to start your own thing, you're not in the rat race, not really.

Literally everyone can do this through student loans

>>81330857
well enjoy your life of working 2 jobs for the rest of your life while i'll just get my uncle to put in a good word or two to the right people and get me a comfy job

>>81330086
You're such a big moron that you don't even understand basic statistical trends.
Here, let's try the idiot version:
Poorer people have worse environment.
Worse environment make poorer people take bad decision more often
Worse environments makes it so poorer people have greater consequences from bad decisions
Improve environment and poorer people make fewer bad choices

>>81330873
>the solution to not having money is taking a loan
Brilliant! Inform the poor, they just need more loans to pay for the loans!

>>81324802
>Germany has literally criminalized "fake news"
>People have been arrested for saying racist things on social media
>Europe is freer than the US
Outdated as fuck

>>81330891
>I also know several people our age who work their asses off and still make less than $20 an hour.

This is in response to a post that said working hard leads to success. Then you offer this up as a counterpoint.

>>81330901
I come from a very poor environment(family makes 12k per year) and I have never done anything illegal

>>81330873
>poor people can repay loans as easily as rich people
Are you...like...special?

>>81330901
Calling me a moron and you have a 5th grade handle on grammar lmao. Please kill your self.

>Poorer people have worse environment.
>Worse environment make poorer people take bad decision more often
>take bad decision more often
>take bad decision more often
>take bad decision more often

That's what i'm saying. It comes down to bad decisions.

>>81327418
That's an experience I have with leftists. They seem to think of the government as some kind of all-knowing power. A sort of replacement for God. There was one notorious leftist where I live that said that people should be wary about what they say, lest the government take away our freedom of speech. As if the people got the scraps from the politician's table. It's a downright demeaning and elitistic view.

>>81330927
Taking a student loan can be a great decision you mongoloid. Just learn an in demand skill.

>>81330944
I'm sorry but can you read?
Actually read and understand sentences?
Did I say "every poor person inevitably makes bad choices" ? Did I say "every poor person is incapable of escaping poverty" ?
No.
I said "more often" or "more likely". As in, you can do X/avoid doing Y but it's more difficult.
I grew up poor too, never did anything illegal either.

>>81324802
>I voted for both parties
>conservatives are evil, liberals are right but only lose because they don't want to fight
The usual excuse from the left. See Armenian genocide denier's meltdown during the 2016 election. Literally the same excuse

>>81330838
>implying you didnt think it was much
Only relative to what the drug dealer makes, which was the point in the first place. You then quickly sidetracked into talking about statistics and are now desperately trying to claim victory to some argument that I don't even know is about.

>>81327843
>jail for posting the wrong thing here,


If you post CP in USA could you not be jailed?

>>81330950
The point of a student loan is to eventually get a good job so you will be able to repay it back.

This should be so obvious I shouldn't even have to state it. Have you ever thought critically by any chance?

>>81330981
>Calling me a moron and you have a 5th grade handle on grammar lmao
You are a moron, I literally told you "here's the idiot version", deprived of any grammatical finesse so that you may understand it. Apparently, you can't even understand when I'm telling you that you're an idiot.
>It comes down to bad decisions.
GEE I WONDER WHY, it might have something to do with their environment. We could for example look at kids who were born in poor families and adopted at birth by wealthy family and try to find out what happens to them. Oh gee, looky here, they perform far better than their poor family did. Boy howdy, how could I have never thunk of that!

>>81331036
>poor people have the same ability to face financial problems as rich people
Has you mom ever told you that you're a special kid?

>>81330984
That's your experience with leftists? Typically they are pro government and anti-business, with rightists being the other way around. Sounds like your associate is just one of those people scared of government, who don't really fit into the left-right dichotomy.

>>81330981
He's right, you are a moron.

>>81330891
>>81330938

>literally deleting your post because you got BTFO

kek im dying

>>81331059
>muhhhh environment

I dont even know why im responding to you. You already admitted poor people are poor because they make bad decisions. Which was all I said. You can break the cycle of poverty by breaking the cycle of bad decisions.

>>81331081
The point is you wont be poor after getting your education and good job. Are you being dumb on purpose?

>>81330938
>>81331126
No, it's a counterpoint to "it's only great for you if you are resourceful, smart and work hard."

>>81331017
You offered up that anecdote as a counterpoint to the statement that hard work leads to success.

Your back pedalling is making me cringe.

>>81331000
And then what? You're still in the rat race for the decade, now you need to repay the loan. When are you buying that house exactly? 2 decades later? A guy who inherited some money got that house in his 20s and now he doesn't need to pay rent and can do whatever the fuck he wants.

>>81331207
>You can break the cycle of poverty by breaking the cycle of bad decisions
It is more difficult for poorer people to do so because of their environment. This can be seen by adoption studies such as the ones I explained to you before.
Can you understand this? Can you?

>>81331267
Taking out loans is part of life. If you have a good job you will have no problem living comfortably and paying it back.

>>81331261
whats the difference?

theres a reason arts/literature come from the upper class its because they have time and money to do them.
also why rich people look better and communicate at a higher standard to others

>>81331207
>The point is you wont be poor after getting your education and good job.
You do know that unexpected things outside your influence happen in life, right? And that sometimes those things are bad?
Well you see, those bad things that happen tend to be worse for poor people when they influence your financial situation. I know, it's a very difficult concept for your small brain, but try to picture it.

>>81331305
>because people from good homes are more likely to make good life choices this means it's impossible for poor people to make good decisions

wow good point really made me think

>>81331355
You really can't read, uh.
Well, try again, start from here >>81331004
>Did I say "every poor person inevitably makes bad choices"?Did I say "every poor person is incapable of escaping poverty"?No. I said "more often" or "more likely".As in, you can do X/avoid doing Y but it's more difficult.
uh, look there, it's not what you quoted me saying, not only that, I literally already explained this stupid line of thinking. Isn't that great?

>>81331338
>You do know that unexpected things outside your influence happen in life, right? And that sometimes those things are bad?

WOW good point I guess no person can ever take out a student loan, get a good job, pay it back and lift themselves out of poverty!

>>81331261
Correct, that post provided an example to the blanket statement that hard work will always trump being a lazy drug dealer. Sure it's anecdotal, but that should have been obvious from the start. Do you have difficulty with reading comprehension? I don't know what you're referring to about backpedaling, but it isn't winning you any arguments.

>>81331409
Then WHAT THE FUCK is your point? lmao

you are literally agreeing with me.

>poor people are poor because of decisions
>poor people can make good decisions and break the cycle of poverty

>>81331422
Read this, honey >>81331409
If you can read, that is.
Which, at this point, I really doubt.

>>81325102
>not knowing the difference between a retard virtue signalling motion which has absolutely zero legal effect and a binding piece of legislation

>>81331447
>Then WHAT THE FUCK is your point? lmao
That
it
is
not
as
easy
so
just
saying
"you
can
do
it
too"
misses
a
lot
of
what
is
going
on
and
makes
you
look
like
a
simpleton

>>81331447
Please, tell me what country you come from. I need to know how bad they fucked up.

>>81331445
>Correct, that post provided an example to the blanket statement that hard work will always trump being a lazy drug dealer.
well my post you responded too never said that people who work hard will always come out ahead of people who work less hard. I just said if you are a hard worker America is the best country to be in.

LMAO kill yourself.

>>81328387

People who's convictions don't hold up under scrutiny are fucking retarded.

>>81331494
Then why the fuck are you responding to me? Ive never said its just as easy for people from poor backgrounds to make good decisions as it may be for people from rich backgrounds. I just said the cycle of poverty CAN be broken.

This whole time you been autistically screeching at me for a point I never made. Pathetic.

>>81331526
>well my post you responded too never said that people who work hard will always come out ahead of people who work less hard.
It said "[America] only great for you if you are resourceful, smart and work hard." and "if you are going to be a lazy degenerate who drops out of school, deals drugs, or gets pregnant at 16 it might be the worst country for you."

You're not even from here. By all means, believe what you want, even though someone from here corrects you. But please, just stop being so goddamn persistently stupid.

>>81331582
>I just said the cycle of poverty CAN be broken
Which is a really stupid thing to say beucase it's basically like "THE SKY IS BLUE". Yes, and?

>>81331670
So you took issue with something that is akin to "the sky is blue" lmao.

Embarrassing.

>>81331615

The drug dealer will likely end up in prison eventually.

I couldn't even get past the first four episodes.

This tv show was that shit.

>>81325403
>what country is better than america? In terms of quality of life, influence, and power?
much better countries on quality of life, just check basic stats.

> WE HAVE A SHITTY LIFE BUT AT LEAST WE'RE #1 GLOBAL POWER USA USA USA