ITT: We pretend to be The Rick and the Morty >Religon is

Religion is a disease. Religious people should be classified as lunatics.

something something don't have kids something something

religion literally fucking made me scared of death

it didn't fucking help because nobody is good enough for fucking heaven so now I think what if there is a fucking hell which is bullshit

>>81323911
ITT: mad christcucks

>>81323911
>people dont like x because y likes it

how does it feel to be 12

>>81323954
There is literally nothing wrong with accepting Jesus as your lord and savior

I'm smart and liberal haha

Dae existentialism?

>>81323911

The only people who hate religion are slaves to literalism.

>>81323954
I unironically believe this

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>>81324071

GOD ISN'T REAL MORTY *BURP* WE NEED THE MULAN SAUCE MORTY THE MULAN SAUCE FROM MCDONALDS MORTY *BURP* GET SCHWIFTY WUBALUBDUB POOPY PANTS M-MORTY

>>81324068

>people don't like x because they don't like x, y and z
>by extension they hate r because r likes x, y, and z

this is how it actually works

>>81323911
reminder that only cross posting pol tards hate rick and morty. all true tv posters agree its kino af

>>81324188
this is not how scientific advancement works

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>>81323911

>>81324251
This

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>>81324251
>>81324280
>>81324301

>>81324251
Yeap. It's really easy to tell too. /pol/ is a place for simpletons and 12 year olds.

M-MORTY, IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS YOUR LIFE...IT *URP* DOESNT MATTER MORTY.
>oh jeez rick, that doesnt sound very reassuring
THAT'S JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE TOO STUPID TO REALIZE HOW *BURRRP* LIBERATING IT IS. YOU-YOU-YOU THINK AN ANT WORRIES ABOUT LIFE AND DEATH MORTY? OF COURSE NOT. THAT ANT ONLY CARES ABOUT CHASING PHEROMONES, AND IF YOU GET RIGHT DOWN TO IT MORTY, THAT'S ALL YOU CARE ABOUT EITHER, I'VE SEEN YOUR INTERNET HISTORY.

>>81324188
Wow real cool how they measure that scientific advancement in undefined units and remove every human variable to prove a point.

Really made me think

>>81324022
Death and the outcomes after death are the only legitimate things to be scared of.

Sure, there are things worse than death but nothing is as absolute and finite as death.

>>81323911
>911
Bojack Horseman does it too, but you dont see 20 threads an hour complaning about it.

>>81324418
hownew.ru
there's no way you're older than 16

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>>81323911
How can you watch a show with a voice more grading and annoying than this?

>>81324463
t-tricked u

llol

>>81323911
Why do you goons keep on shitposting about things you don't like? Neat, it's a shit cartoon why the fuck do you keep on giving it attention? Do obsess over everything you don't like?

>>81324022
Everybody is good enough for heaven. Read a Bible yourself, don't listen to people teaching negatively. Hell may possibly be for only the worst of the worst. Maybe it will be like prison where we spend however much life we wasted willfully sinning in torment and then go to heaven with a new found love for Gods forgiveness we didn't have in life. Maybe nobody but actual devil and demon worshippers will go there and there is various tiers of heaven like people that didn't believe in God don't get to fly or time travel and view all of life. Nobody knows. You won't until you are personally dead. I do that that Jesus died for every single person and no sin is unforgivable as that is what he taught. Jesus came for the sinful, not the saints.

>>81324613
Retarded sheep.

>>81324555
>He thinks we don't like it

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>>81324765
Describes me pretty well

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l too also enjoy the reddit and memey hour

>>81324657
*tips fedora

>>81324216
It's funny how everyone who makes fun of the show has seen every episode a few times.

What's the meme you kids are in these days?
>Gets the ol' noggin' joggin'

>>81324765
>>81324905
Oh and they frequent Reddit so as to keep up with all of their dank memes. Almost forgot.

>>81324613
You're completely incoherent

>>81324657
Look where you're posting, mate.

>>81323911
What the fuck
It's DubbaLubba dub-dub you retard
Fucking fake ass Rick

Pretty good. Could have fooled me.

Rick and Morty is PURE genius and forward-thinking television.

Just take a look at "Rixty Minutes".

How many times have you ever seen a fucking cartoon do improv? Much less a full episode of it?That is so ground-breakingly spectacular. Fuck the haters.

That's what's so incredible about it. I've never seen that before. As far as I know no one has attempted that. Ground-breaking shit. I love it.

>>81325149
This post is PURE reddit

Just take a look at how its written

How many times have you seen a redditor space his sentences this way?

Whats so incredible is how obvious it is. l've never seen an original reddit post before. As far as l know no redditor has attempted anything new. you need to go back. l hate it

>shilling for Disney and McDonalds
10/10 reddit does it again

agnostic masterrace reporting in
firmly believing that everything is man-made is arrogant

>>81324071
as long as you accept it's fundamentally the same as accepting an empty coke bottle as your lord and savior

>>81323911
I don't think you people are still supposed to be upset at the "god isn't real" bit in the very first episode. Because that's literally the first thing posted in every one of these autistic threads. It was never meant to be edgy, just to give some background to Rick's character and how he views things.

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>>81323911

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Are theists really this upset by a cartoon?

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>>81324016

>screencapping this

>>81323911
Wubbba dubba dubbba. Atheism is so cool. Wubba dub dub. McDonald's Szechuan sauce. Wubba Dubba dub. The government is evil and life is suffering. Woo woo

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>>81323954
fuck you got me good
wubba rub dub dubs

Christianity is the basis for modern morality. this is also a Christian image board, heretics get out rrrrrreeeeeeeeeeee

GET SHWIFTY

>>81323911
>>81327667
>>81328889
>>81327659
We reddit now

>>81329252
>Christianity is the basis for modern morality

What a shit basis

Empathy works a million times better than Christianity and doesn't rely on 10 commandments some guy got while talking to a burning bush

>>81324555
It's fun.

>>81324188
how do they measure scientific advancement?

>>81324855
thats so sad. I want to help vern

>>81329287
>2017
>empathy

empathy is what makes people believe that one like = one saved nigger faggot, one share = six gorillion new vaccines for homeless transgendered infants

grow up retard

REE3EEEEE. I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE ¡!!!!

>>81329287
>Empathy works a million times better than Christianity
No it doesn't, retard. Empathy changes from person to person, Christian morality doesn't.

HYPE
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>>81329366
Not to mention blind empathy has lead to this "love is love" bullshit that demands we treat cuckolds and trannies with the same respect as normal people or face ostracizing.

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>>81324188
This picture has to be some of the best bait on the internet, there's always someone who will fall for it, either to defend it or attack it.

>>81329337

You're using it wrong faggot, but I guess you wouldn't know since you're a fucking autist

empathy != sympathy you nigger, that's why they're different words

understanding(KEY WORD) somebody's feelings is not the same as feeling bad for some dead kid in africa

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>>81324613

>>81323954
>>81323911
>>81324134
>tfw atheism is the norm where I live
>tfw being an atheist and denying the magic bearded space man is considered edgy and controversial by brainlet Amerilards
inb4 Swedish/libcuck/whatever. Where I live white supremacy, anti-immigration, anti-liberalism, fag hating, anti-islamism and anti-nu-feminism is also the norm. If I think about it my homeland is a /pol/ utopia.

>>81324022
religion had a hand in making me afraid of sex.

Like I'm now wired in this mode of wanting a young virgin wife when all there is in the world now is sluts with tattoos.

>>81329435
If it's so great name it.

>>81324188
you have to be either American or braindead to think that there was no technological and scientific advancement in Middle Ages

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>>81323911
THIS IS SO FREAKING SWEET! AHHHHHH

>>81329252

You have to be a total utter psychopath to only have empathy because of an ancient book about stoning people to death.

But fedora memes are fun so lets all pretend we're christians

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>>81329399
it doesnt make a difference desu, prefix-m'pathy still boils down to feeling while Christian morality involves the additional step of actually doing something about it.

>>81329462
It's probably Sweden.

>>81329476
It's literally nothing worthy of note.

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>>81329478
>to only have empathy
you mixed up morality with morale again, nigger

>>81324613
>like people that didn't believe in God
you don't know what you're talking about. apostasy is unforgivable.

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>>81329478
Stoning degenerates and sickos is okay and redpilled.

>>81326666
Why did nobody acknowledge these sick quads?

Why in the hell are there so many fucking threads about this shitty numale cartoon now?

It's been on for years and there have never been this many fucking threads about it. What the fuck is happening?

>>81329462
Hint: we built our anti-immigration wall way before Trump. It's probably were he got the idea from.

>>81329539
hello Hungary

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>>81329539
Oy Vey! Are you a fellow Ashkenazim Shlomo??

>>81324188
Accurate except replace the hole with muslim dark age

>Bible-bashing Amerilards get triggered by anti religion statements
>this is probably the sole reason why Rick & Morty gets such a strong negative reaction on here

Feel free to post more hat tipping memes though

>>81329535
Apparently they said religion is stupid and some people are butthurt about it. And something about McDonalds, and something something reddit.

I always wonder, how do these people know so much about what goes on over on reddit to get so mad about it.

>>81326666
quads of truth

>>81329562

I don't know what happens in a Best Buy warehouse floor or a tribal village in Ghana, but I can guess.

Do you have autism?

>>81329532
;) keep on doing g-d's work anon

Desu vult

>>81329546
No. Also
>implying there's anything wrong with Goldbergistan keeping their sandniggers inside their zoo.
>>81329545
Hello.

>>81326666
It got drunk for our sins.

>>81329507
in pre-modern times technological advancements were slower, they took generations. even Renaissance was a time of stagnation by our standards. but compare early medieval architecture and art to late medieval ones and you'll see that they in fact learned a lot. and it was catholic monks that preserved knowledge left after the fall of Western Roman Empire and strated adding to it.

>>81329562
We know when you post your Reddit show here, Reddit.

>>81329252
>christian imageboard
>unironic

The whole site isn't a pol hugbox where different beliefs aren't allowed.

>>81329597
Oh really? Tell us what happens in a Best Buy warehouse floor in Ghana, I'm stoked.

>>81329623
I haven't seen the show. You're the one who keeps posting how everything is so reddit. You must know a lot about the site.

>>81329391
Holy shit, anon.

>>81329562
/pol/ is on an SJW war to save G-d

keep up with the current zeitgeist you 4chan noob

it's hip to be christcuck

>>81329539
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDrfE9I8_hs

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>>81329667

>>81329671

I said or.
You're not even a smart autist.

>>81329597
>what happens in a Best Buy warehouse floor
I saws it myselfs m-masta, yo mama was don sucking big nigga dick on the best bay floor

rekt nigga

>islam is acceptable and considered a progressive religion in todays society
>Christianity is considered a religious cult for pedophiles
Who is behind this

>>81329706
check out this cool new meme
christians sure are cool
join our youth group

>>81329722
what did he unironically mean by this?

>>81329711
Hmm I see. What DOES happen on Best Buy warehouse floors? Warehouse type stuff I'm guessing?

I fail to see what this has to do with your expertise in everything reddit.

>>81329706
wtf I want to go to church now

>>81329745
Fuck off to Reddit.

>>81329722
muslims were the real 9/11 victims

>>81329722
They're both stupid in their own unique and special way.

>>81324071
thats fine, but injecting your intrusive morality on everyone is not

>>81329756
Does this mean you're not going to tell me about the tribes in Ghana? Kinda disappointed desu senpai

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>>81329619
as a fellow history fag myself. the cross bow changed how wars were fought that was a big change

>>81329771
fine deny jesus and burn in h*ck for all eternity
also jesus said love everyone but only after they submit

>>81329784
>>>>>Reddit

>>81329801
what are you trying to accomplish with this post?

>>81329734
not him, but the gist is that Islam, who's founder married, if not fucked, a child, and many sects of which still actively practice child marriage, is portrayed as a treasured, acceptable minority, where as all christianity, Catholic, Orthodox, or protestant, is instantly attacked for the priest scandal.

>>81329619
so what are monks doing today that is so academic?
oh yeah, we replaced monasteries with secular institutions

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>>81329817
>what are you trying to accomplish with this post?
what are you trying to accomplish with this post?

>>81329804
Is that just like a thing you guys from reddit say when you lose arguments on here? Seems common lately.
>Hey you know Christianity doesn't make much sense
>OH YEAH WELL FEDORA MEME FROM 8 YEARS AGO
>But seriously here is why it doesn't make much sense
>GO BACK TO R/EDDIT U FAG
Getting pretty old familam

>>81329854
Are you saying I'm going to hell if I don't believe in christ anon or were you being ironic. It's ok to be sincere on a basket weaving forum.

>>81329530
>apostasy is unforgivable.
Retarded protestant detected.

>>81329859
they're hoping to annoy people away
christians are super good at it, look at all of the liberals who browse pol

>>81329910
/pol/ was always a sewer but at least it was an interesting sewer. Now it's just a facebook argument about Republican political talking points, except unlike facebook they can say nigger freely.

>>81329435
>inb4 Swedish/libcuck/whatever. Where I live white supremacy, anti-immigration, anti-liberalism, fag hating, anti-islamism and anti-nu-feminism is also the norm. If I think about it my homeland is a /pol/ utopia.
And your women are literally all whores who whore themselves for Western European money, and do scat and prolapse porn not only in professional studios but on webcam too. This is their main source of income while they pretend to be "college educated intellectuals who want to wait until they get a good job to have a baby" for your men. The only reason people ever visit your country is for cheap whores and drugs and sex industry festivals. 10 points for the atheists I guess.

>>81329252
Empathy is central to everything you're talking about and existed at the dawn of humanity.

Morality objectively existed before, it was ascribed to much simpler empathetic feelings but it was baser form of the morality that is taught through religion.

You can't ignore empathy that's encoded into you and most of humanity and make outrageous claims that Religion let alone a newborn baby religion like modern Christianity was/is central to everything. you'd have to be completely ignorant to even pretend to say shit that's that stupid.

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>>81329886
i think you should be able to tell from the tone of the post that i'm fucking with you

i sincerely think that god probably doesn't exist, and definitely isn't the judeochristian god

i typically live and let live because it's not worth alienating the people you know because religion simply doesn't matter to me, just the good and evil deeds done in religions name

>>81329960
Romanian slavnigger gypsy detected.

>>81329448
That is literally just your instinct, it's perfectly normal and good just like racism.

Any male that claims to be ok with sloots and foreigners is either chemically damaged (possibly beyond repair) or in extreme denial.

>>81329955
>except unlike facebook they can say nigger freely.
god bless

this show is truly empty and honestly repulsive, I don't understand why people would or could critically defend it at all.

>>81329831
but there were no secular institutions in middle ages, thats my point. someone still preserved much knowledge from Roman timmes and it was Catholic monks. they literally risked they lives travelling and searching for books and then spent their entire lives copying them, based Christian theology on works of Plato and other antique philosophers, and some edgy faggot hundreds of years later calls them knowledge haters.
and even after middle ages they were still adding: Mendel, the nigga who invented genetics and did first experiments about heredity was an Augustinian friar for example.

>>81330012
Just because it doesn't have a moral? Not everything needs an agenda, and before you say it, Rick isn't this perfect character that librul academics should strive to be like, he's an annoying asshole who alienates or manipulates everyone who cares about him.

>>81324188
That graph looks like a butt!!!! :D

>>81330074
>agenda
that isn't a property of merit you cunt

>>81330042
We're talking in a modern context.
Nobody is saying all Christians are stup[id and you can point to a thousand scholars who believed in God or claimed to because literally everyone was religious back then, society was formed around and in churches, it's where people went to socialise and if you didn't go you were a pariah, even late into the 20th Century. But saying there is a God "just because" shows a fundamental lack of critical thinking skills.

>>81330134
Some people think it is. People on this site constantly moan about creators political views and laud people who share their views and put it in their work. Everyone has their own viewpoint but show some subtlety if putting it in a creative work. Nobody likes being told what to think.

>>81330184
wtf familia, I am not arguing about existence of God, I'm still talking about this picture
>>81324188

>>81330012
>>81330074
I feel the same, except it's based on the fact that it is in every way a celebration of the mediocre, weak and ugly.

>>81323911
>He who controls the banks controls the galaxy!

What did they mean by this?

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>>81329487

you don't always have to do something, that's the whole point of empathy (you understand how the person is feeling, you know what to do)

it works for every situation, while Christian morality is limited to the words of imperfect languages and cannot ever hope to encompass all moral possibilities. if you don't understand what I mean, read some wittgenstein (really just the tractus logico-philosophicus). translate the bible to math and you have near-complete (if not arguably complete) objectivite moral compass

in religion (especially nowadays) you have all this cherrypicking with "no we don't do that anymore" referring to shit like not eating shrimp (or in mudslim's case, not killing other people (>>>mfw)), you are forced to bend your commandments and writing to the accommodate for modern times

a great deal of old testament teachings and stories are ignored due to the blatant barbarity that happens in them, like sub-human animalistic type shit. the story of job is a great example of this. god is such an asshole that he literally bets the devil that one of his guys will keep sucking his dick even if he destroys his whole life. god destroyed a person's life just so that he could prove a point to a guy that he told to fuck off a few 'thousand' years ago... OH god is great! christian god is literally ancient-greek gods levels of morally bankrupt, but way less entertaining

at least zeus went and had a bunch of sons with mortal qts and his sons did a bunch of heroic and entertaining things

>christian god has 1 son
>can do almost literally anything
>cures a few blind people and makes it rain fish and bread
>does a few more cool things
>gets JUSTed by romans

oh and then he comes back 3 days later and peaces the fuck out

talking religion is a waste of time anyways, I hope some autist got something out of this. I know better than to expect something out of somebody with """faith""" but all-in-all this was a fun write-up

>>81324188
i remember when i was 16 and blindly believed this image

>>81329547
Ironically it was the Muslim empire that carried the torch of knowlege through the middle ages. Most greek texts only survived through arabic translation in their universities.
Another fun fact: the cathedrals of Europe couldn't have been built without the Arabic numerals and the evolution in mathematics that came from their studies of the Greek.

>>81330480

>based ancient arabs

what an interesting time to be alive and have access to all this seemingly useless yet amazing information

>>81324022
Me too tough I'm not religious now, I was raised as a Catholic and it has kept me from killing myself a few times

>>81329252
>Christianity is the basis for modern morality
Top fucking kek, kill yourself you clown

>>81330431
fun read actually. unironinc thanks

the part about the wittgenstein and translating the bible into math was literal dog shit tho, but perhaps it was a giant twist.

>>81324188
Look at it this way if this was a representation of removing mudslimes from the holy land that'd be a huge spike.

>>81330539

good nuff for me, thanks for the (you)s anon, have a good night/day wherever you are

>>81324188
It's amazing that people still believe this.

It was called the dark ages because of an unknown solar phenomenon that blocked out 90% of the suns light during that period.

Wait, is that why /tv/ shits on this show? I thought it was because it was retarded meme LULZRANDUM shit, but is it just upset Christfags?

>>81330480
I love when people use their public school education to show off their ignorance.

>>81330480
>Arabic numerals
>created in India
>brought to Middle East by Persians
>came to Europe with Arabs and hence their name
>some wewuz faggot gives credit for them to Islamists
I weep for humanity. also:
>Muslim empire
there was no such thing dumbass
>carried the torch of knowlege through the middle ages
so did catholic monasteries, although Arabs did preserved much more texts about medicine and maths due to their closeness to Egypt, Catholic monks mainly preserved Roman and Greek texts

>>81330562
here's another one bro. thanks for the lels

>>81324613
Are you being serious? I srsly can't tell if you're joking or really being deluded.
You are everything what's wrong with Christians and Christianity today: You speak up about shit you don't know anything about and you confuse your personal speculation with Christian philosophy. Kill yourself, dipshit.

>>81330646
was carlin the first troll?

>>81330624
>Catholic monks mainly preserved Roman and Greek texts
Those that weren't forbidden.
> credit for them to Islamists
You are the only dipshit bringing Islamist up. Nice try to fog up a point and derail an argument, you asshole

>>81329771
>intrusive morality
>the morality of the secular world is 99% Christianity

>>81330624
>>Arabic numerals
>>created in India
>>brought to Middle East by Persians
>>came to Europe with Arabs and hence their name
Your point being? So I'm not allowed to call them Arabic numerals?
Also you forgot to ""refute"" my point about the cathedrals.

>>81330691
>he thinks no one ever came up with the idea that it was wrong to kill or steal before Moses

>>81330691
>the morality of the secular world is 99% Christianity
This is absolute bullshit.

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>>81330691
>>the morality of the secular world is 99% Christianity

>>81330671
>Those that weren't forbidden.
and which were? I hope you're not talking about Index Librorum Prohibitorum, because it would show that you don't know what you're talking about
>Nice try to fog up a point and derail an argument, you asshole
so whats your argument? that every civilization builds on legacy of previous ones? well no shit

>>81329711
None of them are. "Autism" is rebranded retardation. People think autism can be treated with expensive therapy, nobody thinks retardation can be treated. There's a clear economic incentive to rebrand retardation of various types and degrees as the "autism spectrum".

>>81330730
>Also you forgot to ""refute"" my point about the cathedrals.
because it's true. I never claimed that Europeans invented mathematics, they did expanded upon it though. Arabs did as well. I didn't mean to say that Arabs had no hand in preserving ancient knowledge, I'm saying that Christians did it as well, those were the 2 biggest civilizations after the fall of Rome

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>>81330691
This is where you do it anon

>>81324613
>Nobody knows.

Because its all made up.

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>>81330528

>>81324375
Is this an actual quote from the show? I've seen all of it and I legit can't tell

>>81330885
Not the same person, but calling out the "Christianity being the basis of modern morality" bullshit is not neckbeard at all.

>>81330569
HAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>81330885
>dumb meme response.

Wouldn't have expected more from a retard and a dumb illinformed relic.

>>81330885
literally a reddit meme

>>81330918
whats the basis of mmodern morality then?

>>81330405
So is everyone on this board just going to ignore that this was actually in the show? Ok then.

>>81330691
You know secularity is literally a separation of religion from society right?

It's what the word means.

>>81329435
Čecháček?

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>>81330886

same

I just wish proper space travel was invented some time soon

there is enough space in the universe for every human being and human communities

it'd be nice not having to deal with people who have backwards-ass beliefs about morality, and I'm speaking in general here

fuck, it'd be fun giving /pol/ and communists a planet each to see what they do with it

imagine that, worlds full of retards that you never have to visit but still probably would just to see the circus freaks

>>81330994
Not him, but calling "Christianity" which was always what the religious leaders that were in charge said it was until Luther and later the age of European Enlightenment the "basis" of modern morality, is like calling hunting and gathering the basis for modern civilization.

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>>81330918
Thinking christianity was forgotten all of a sudden from one day to the next is equally foolish

look at what is happening to good ol' americans, just look

>>81330994
Philosophy.

>>81331008
How should that change what he said?

He's not saying secular society is christian

>>81331060
ICELAND
JA

>>81330994
In what part of the world, you clown?

Imagine this whole thread but imagine that the people who are making fun of Rick and Morty are actually on so many levels of irony that they are actually, using humor, promoting Rick and Morty. Imagine that deep down inside they are actually making fun of the people who sincerely make fun of rick and morty with memes.

Post-modernism and New Sincerity here we come

You're welcome gentleman.

>>81331060
>There are people on here right now that believe Evolution isn't a real thing

This scares me.

>>81331060
>thinking all Christians don't believe in evolution

>>81331112
HeIlo reddit

>>81331060
Who are you talking to?

>>81331060
SWEDEN YES
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>>81331122
>>81331123
> WE WUZ APEZ N SHIT
> OOGA BOOGA GRAVITY IS A THEORY TOO

>>81323911
>>81323954
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>>81331076
>heavy handed existentialism is bashed as edgy and fedora in a ANIMATED COMEDY SHOW
>widely accepted and praised in a serious, grounded HBO drama.

Why /tv/ cant see anything worthy in Rick and Morty bit jerks himself off over the first season of True detective

>>81331060
>Not accepting Evolution means you're Christian and vice versa for some reason

Sly.

>>81331157
Reddit

>>81331123
>>81331162
>Not all Christians are gullible idiots
And some black people don't commit crimes. What's your point?

>>81329252
Christianity is a weird way of saying John Locke and Immanuel Kant

>>81331157
I thought Rust was a pessimist?

>>81331190

I hate you.

>>81331199
Both of whomst simply regurgitated Christianity

>>81331088
That completely changes what he said.

Christianity is literally based around surrendering yourself to god. There is no point of living without god and you will go to hell if you deny him.

These are truths that you can never escape from under Christianity.

Secularism is the opposite of that world view, secularism is at the core of almost every atheists world view.


>George Holyoake's 1896 publication English Secularism describes secularism as follows:

>Secularism is a code of duty pertaining to this life, founded on considerations purely human, and intended mainly for those who find theology indefinite or inadequate, unreliable or unbelievable. Its essential principles are three: (1) The improvement of this life by material means. (2) That science is the available Providence of man. (3) That it is good to do good. Whether there be other good or not, the good of the present life is good, and it is good to seek that good.

Educate yourself for once you fucking idiot.

>>81331076
and what the fuck do you think had the greatest impact on philosophy? until post modern bullshit came philosophy was basically Plato with Christian commentary. take a philosophy course and see how much Christian theology will be there. spoiler: a lot.

>>81331190
Well played sir

>>81331134
now you're getting it

>>81331157
Wait...people liked rusts for his pseudo-philosphical musings?
I thought he was supposed to be there to portray a broken man who doesn't think straight.

>>81331223
>what the fuck do you think had the greatest impact on philosophy?
The Vedas. Then the Greek. No go fuck off.

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>>81330994

>be born in village of Guap'un'gulu
>ancestors prayed to the monkeysnake god
>used to also pray to monkeysnake and follow monkeysnake moral teachings to love and cherish my people and kill all enemies of tribe
>white man come with technology and improve quality of life
>people praying less to monkeysnake god but at least none of kids are dying
>white man Phil bring computer
>teach me how to use to because I am tribe chief
>go to virtual site 4chan
>see some sheepfucker type that his religion is basis for all world's morality
>his religion has no monkeys or snakes
>mfw

I wanted to mention Rick & Morty but then I realized this was originally a R&M thread.

>>81331190
>gullible
Says the guy believing in evolution
> yes goy you're a monkey

>>81331268
> pajeet shit having an impact on anything

>>81331276

>not understanding how evolution works

fucking brainlets

>>81331222
He quite clearly meant the secular world shares similar morality to Christianity - albeit probably exaggerating for (you)s.

Most of the commandments, emphasis on family, and 'alturism' (if there is such a thing) is very much part of the modern, and progressively secular world.

>>81331223
>and what the fuck do you think had the greatest impact on philosophy?
Plato and Aristotle

>christian commentary on the greatest philosophers=greatest impact.
kek

Most if not all of the greatest works of philosophy had almost no connection to Christian theology. It was a separate secular enterprise, even though some philosophers were Christians.

>>81331297
Yeah, you seem to know your stuff. Thanks for your reply.

>>81331308
> evolutionist brainlets are two indiligent to understand intelligent design

>>81331308
>replying to shitposters

>>81326666
All hail the invisible thirst quencher

>>81331258
>because Rick is portrayed as the epitome of a sane charachter

>>81331364
> everything is le ironic bait and le shitpost
This is your mind on reddit......... woah......

>>81331337

>intelligent design brainlets are too intelligent to logic

"huh! wouldn't you say that's funny, eh? there are all these things that EXIST! I rearrange things and tie things together sometimes, therefore there has to be some personality-based (like a human yknow) diety that has created all of reality. well that can't just be a possibility, no sir, I completely believe in that 100% and anybody who has any other consideration of what could happen is most definityely wrong.

>>81331333
philosophers like Descartes, Kant or Spinoza were not influenced by Christianity and Christian morality?

If evolution ie natural selection isn't real then why is racemixing bad?

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This shit may as well be "CAKE IS A LIE XD" all over again

t. ribbit repost
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>>81331324
Considering we don't honor the sabbath, haven't made adultery a crime, take the lord's name in vain, still have the death penalty in some states, allow people the freedom to have other gods and covetous behavior is encouraged I'd say the secular world is far from Christianity morally.

But yeah honoring your parents and having laws against killing, stealing and bearing false witness isn't exactly unique to christianity.

Sorry I don't buy it.

>>81331452
Whomst art thou quotating?

>>81331540
>honoring your parents and having laws against killing, stealing and bearing false witness isn't exactly unique to christianity.

no it is not

>what is "most tribal community laws" for 400$, Alex?

>>81331456
They were influenced by Plato, which influenced Christianity, which influenced them. You're asking a loaded question that has nothing to do with what I was implying in my post. Christian theology wasn't what they were writing about, but you could say that they were influenced by Christianity, but it didn't inform their philosophical works as much as you're claiming. They were original secular works. If I can come up with the same moral system as christianity using logic and reason, it just means that I have come up with the same moral spirit of "love thy neighbor, etc." using the philosophical method.

>>81331333
>Most if not all of the greatest works of philosophy had almost no connection to Christian theology

Holy shit you are wrong and retarded

>>81323911
Why are Christians so triggered by Rick being atheist when it's actually supposed to be a negative aspect to his character?

>>81331577
>They were influenced by Plato, which influenced Christianity, which influenced them.

not the guy you're replying to, but with this logic I'm surprised you're a christian and not a fucking materialist

>>81331548

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get fucked faggot

>>81331600
Because it isn't. It's hardly a trait. He's semi militant and abrasive about it, that's the negative part.

>>81331600
>Why are Christians so triggered
That's a feature of every religious person, no matter the religion. Their religion is so important, it shouldn't be mocked.

Everyone is out to get your religion. The only truly good people believe in your religion.

I knew a person who had to talk to HR because a woman thought he was attacking Christianity when he poked fun at Tim Teebow (wasn't even talking to her).

>>81331597
You got me

>>81331651
>>81331333
The idea of self and reality was molded around the idea that "God created me and isn't wrong therefore I must exist for God would not create me to be false". Descartes' entire breakdown was based on god existing. Besides that the guy wasn't sure anything existed.

>>81331540
>haven't made adultery a crime
Since when does morality solely come down to law? Are you telling me you think people are just fine with adultery in every day life? No - not because it's against a commandment, but because it's seen as a shitty thing to do.
>still have the death penalty in some states
Quite a drastic decrease compared to how it used to be isn't it?
>allow people the freedom to have other gods
You're right in that Christianity has one true God - but it is preaching of acceptance, "hate the sin, not the sinner" etc. Not to mention you are meant to 'find God' yourself.
>covetous behavior is encouraged
In what sense? It certainly helps you 'succeed' but there are few people that are against 'altruism' - not to mention many people are against capitalism (for better or worse).
>isn't exactly unique to Christianity
No - but it is a big part of Christianity, and it was certainly the influence of Christianity in the west that brought society to where it is now.
I mean you can say we'd have got here sooner or later without Christianity, but that is irrelevant considering the fact is we are were we are now due to Christianity.

I'm not saying Christianity is all good for getting us where we are now, or if we would've been here a lot sooner without it - but denying its influence is ridiculous.

>>81331600
>Why are Christians so triggered by Rick being atheist
I'm not though - and since when are Christians unable to accept atheists? I mean GOT is a very popular show, and it isn't exactly praising religion.

>>81331716
His entire argument breaks down once he brings in God. His influence was not garnered with that theological argument it was by positing the "I," which is how modern philosophy started. Then Kant used the "I think" as the basis of his argument in the CPR. God had nothing to do with the innovative philosophical arguments that those philosophers created or else we'd still be cuck'd by stale christian thought. The "I think" is entirely new and radical in its separation from God. That was the only thing that he could know. Once he tries to build up his argument from that basic premise, everyone who is philosophically literate knows that it falls down.

>>81331806
His "I" began when he discarded anything he couldnt prove to be real and when he got to himself, he is only evidence was his belief that God created him.

>>81324188
How would scientific advancement go down?

The aqueducts still existed, the roman knowledge never went away. In fact, it was stored and saved... by the monasteries who weren't sacked...

>>81331862
No. His only evidence for his thinking was that he was in fact doubting. That's the argument.

>>81331799
It doesn't praise Christianity but it praises multiple religions

>>81323911
>Ricky: You don't exist, Mort
>Mort: Are you God?

>>81331898
>but it praises multiple religions
It doesn't praise the religions though

>>81323911
Why do so many people here parrot the "God doesnt exist. Just going to rip that bandaid off" line so much? That was from the start of the pilot.

Have they only watched the pilot, decided it was 3edgy5me and now shitpost the whole show?

>>81331887
Look. You're confusing the part when he starts to deconstruct reality and when he tries to build up reality.

The only thing he knows is: "I think, I am."

That's where modern philosophy starts and ends. Once he goes beyond that it really becomes subjective. His innovation was the philosophical methodological doubt. He could doubt everything, even God. Most people find this part of the argument the most compelling and innovative. Once he goes on to claim that God wouldn't deceive him that's where the argument falls apart traditionally.

>>81323911
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same pic over and over.

>>81331806
Christianity, like thieretical physics, brings some fantastic scientific like practice to their fields and many interesting concepts of which discussion can beneficially shape us but ultimately is a fools errand if taken too seriously

>>81331889
http://www.iep.utm.edu/descarte/#H5
>He eventually discovers that “I exist” is impossible to doubt and is, therefore, absolutely certain. It is from this point that Descartes proceeds to demonstrate God’s existence and that God cannot be a deceiver.

>Notice that in this argument Descartes makes a direct inference from having the idea of an infinite substance to the actual existence of God.

>This objection is that the cause of a finite substance with the idea of God could also be a finite substance with the idea of God. Yet what was the cause of that finite substance with the idea of God? Well, another finite substance with the idea of God.

>That ultimate cause must be God, because only he has enough reality to cause it.
>That ultimate cause must be God, because only he has enough reality to cause it.
>That ultimate cause must be God, because only he has enough reality to cause it.

>>81331992
I think you might have confused me for >>81331862
but I'm not certain.

>>81331986
Yes. I went into Bong netflix and watched the entire series. There is at most 6 mentions of God in the entire show. One in the pilot episode and 2 in the time fracture one. There isn't any more that I can remember bar generic God mentions, not atheist shit.

/tv/ shitposts about what they've read on /tv/. It's a meme. Just like they shitpost about DC and Marvel based on 1 second clip webms.

>>81331986
people here started hating on Rick and Morty because they couldn't watch their muh Samurai Jack new episode last week

>>81332023
My dude, I'm not arguing that he didn't use God in his arguments. I'm saying that his innovation in philosophy was not his ontological proof of God but it was his methodological doubt. Once you read more about his arguments Post-I, you realize that he's already defeated himself pre-I. That is, his argument for God is implicitly defeated once he brings in the evil demon into his argument. Read more about his argument and you will see that "people traditionally believe the argument falls in on itself after he tries to be a system builder" or something along those lines. Kant btfo all theoretical proofs for God's existence in the CPR later on anyway, but that's beside the point.

>>81332023
The God of Classical Theism outright disproves the existence of God. So piss off.

>>81331752
Morality largely influences law
You can not tell me Islamic countries make adultery punishable by death because they just don't like it.
Or why some states have the death penalty when other states would never even consider it.
It's a question of morals and the people that hold those morals within.

>Are you telling me you think people are just fine with adultery in every day life? No

Adultery is much less of a taboo topic now then it's ever been

http://www.imdb.com/search/keyword?keywords=cheating-wife

Cheating as a concept is largely accepted in realms of pornography, romance, comedy, drama.

When you saw skyler cheating on walter was it a big fucking shock? was it morally unacceptable to you. or did you accept it as an element of drama within the work itself.


>Quite a drastic decrease compared to how it used to be isn't it?

And yet it's still there with 'christian' people defending it.

>In what sense? It certainly helps you 'succeed' but there are few people that are against 'altruism' - not to mention many people are against capitalism (for better or worse).

You can not exist within a modern society without capitalism, whether you like it or not you are influenced by the structures and foundations of the economic systems in place.

Those systems are founded on coveting clothes, food, money, luxuries, etc.

This is inescapable, the conversation you are having with me would not be possible without these systems.

>>81332132
And my argument is that Christianity and religion did and do have influence on philosophy. I know of later Descartes and I know of Kant- i'm replying to the original notion that religion played no part in that development.

I'm an atheist and I have no problem with it. Religion is a huge part of culture and there's nothing wrong with it.

Bringing this back around to the show, I don't get a boner when Rick says some militant atheist shit because I understand that to be an immature trait of his. He's abrasive and needs to assert his dominant intellect or he'd be nothing.

>>81332208
read the above, shit stain, adults are talking.

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You guys are fuckng retarded, Rick and Morty is the best thing airing right now, creators are lazy fucks and they know it, so they're making Rick a figure nowadays. He breaks the 4th wall even in fan written animations(and the dude voices it so goodjob) does whatever he wants, exactly has the nihilist approach to everything. Unlike reddit he gets nasty as fuck so he'd be more like 4chan

Im hyped as fuck for season 3 and the last episode they had was one of the best.

Suck my dick you fake miserable pieces of shits

>>81331752
>>81332212
>You're right in that Christianity has one true God - but it is preaching of acceptance


>"If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods,
yadayada
>But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die"
>Dt.13:6-10
>"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? ... Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord." -- 2 Cor.6:14-17

Mistreating, killing, separating yourself from believers from non-believers is pretty fucking massive deal in Christianity.

It's a huge part of why Christianity is not compatible with secularism and why Christianity was synonymous with blood shed for decades.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_violence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_wars_of_religion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades

>>81332236
Did Christianity serve as the backbone for philosophy like Plato and Aristotle? sure
Were the greatest philosophical works works of theology? no.
Were these secular works works of Christianity because they were influenced by Christianity? no, they were mostly secular arguments and later served to hype up secularization.

Christianity, like Plato and Aristotle, is like the big boogeyman of the Western tradition that doesn't quite go away. But to imply that Christianity produced those works directly is bs, which is what I was arguing. Another thing that I was arguing was that the innovations in philosophy came from the break from philosophy not from its conformity to the same. "I think, I am." is completely secular and is the secular starting point of modern philosophy. We finally get to Nietzsche who then declares God is dead. Philosophy was slowly detaching itself from Christ and that is what made it innovative.

>>81332456
>break from philosophy not from its conformity to the same
break from Christ*
not break from philosophy

Rick and Morty is freaking epic and y'all are just mad he BTFO the Christcucks.

>>81332356
look at this nigga posting links n' shit
on 4chan

>>81331408
Well if not and if you believe that God's plan and Evolution somehow contradict each other, you are a dumb retard and too idiotic to comprehend anything around you. Your choice, you piece of shit

>>81330663
Youre forgetting andy kauffman

>>81323911
If you don't like it why you keep making threads about it?

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>huge thread about a show

>no actual discussion about the show

>>81333666

>"333, 666"

ITS THE DEVIL HIMSELF

LAWD

>>81330184
You're aggressively retarded.

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>>81329535
Religious spergs that have nothing better to do, than be offended whiny babies

>>81329562
They lash out at Reddit because their comments probably get downvoted there.

Just because you religious tards' comments don't get downvoted here doesn't make it a Christian site; kill yourselves.

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>>81333666
>those numbers

>>81331157
In Reddit and Memey it's portrayed as "The Truth" or like an admirable trait, in True Detectives it's pretty obvious that Rust's nihilism is an unfortunate byproduct of his disillusionment with society

>>81330638

Do people like you actually believe that you're good Christians and that Jesus would approve of this behavior?

>>81334447
kill yourself

>>81335836
wtf you're going to hell now

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>>81324188
>scientific advancement is quantifiable

>>81323911
>he spends his free time bitching about a show he doesn't watch and a website he doesn't visit on an armenian dogsledding forum

dicks dicks dicks xd

>>81325149
improv on television in a cartoon is a red flag, not genius. The people who say the "cable" episodes are the best of what R&M have to offer have missed the show's ultimate point.

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>>81325149
Low energy as fuck.

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>>81333666
>333
>666
WTF