Is it even possible for a human to memorize the bible? All 930,243

>>81311606
Well most of those words are just the same words over in a different order, so I'd say it's possible.

>>81311606
curious bumping

>>81311606

of course it is, as long as it's part of God's plan

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>>81311606
Memorizing parts like Genesis chapter 5 and Matthew 1:1. Just send me to Gehenna, already.

1 This is the genealogy[a] of Jesus the Messiah[b] the son of David, the son of Abraham:

2 Abraham was the father of Isaac,
Isaac the father of Jacob,
Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers,
3 Judah the father of Perez and Zerah, whose mother was Tamar,
Perez the father of Hezron,
Hezron the father of Ram,
4 Ram the father of Amminadab,
Amminadab the father of Nahshon,
Nahshon the father of Salmon,
5 Salmon the father of Boaz, whose mother was Rahab,
Boaz the father of Obed, whose mother was Ruth,
Obed the father of Jesse,
6 and Jesse the father of King David.
David was the father of Solomon, whose mother had been Uriah’s wife,
7 Solomon the father of Rehoboam,
Rehoboam the father of Abijah,
Abijah the father of Asa,
8 Asa the father of Jehoshaphat,
Jehoshaphat the father of Jehoram,
Jehoram the father of Uzziah,
9 Uzziah the father of Jotham,
Jotham the father of Ahaz,
Ahaz the father of Hezekiah,
10 Hezekiah the father of Manasseh,
Manasseh the father of Amon,
Amon the father of Josiah,
11 and Josiah the father of Jeconiah[c] and his brothers at the time of the exile to Babylon.
12 After the exile to Babylon:
Jeconiah was the father of Shealtiel,
Shealtiel the father of Zerubbabel,
13 Zerubbabel the father of Abihud,
Abihud the father of Eliakim,
Eliakim the father of Azor,
14 Azor the father of Zadok,
Zadok the father of Akim,
Akim the father of Elihud,
15 Elihud the father of Eleazar,
Eleazar the father of Matthan,
Matthan the father of Jacob,
16 and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, and Mary was the mother of Jesus who is called the Messiah.
17 Thus there were fourteen generations in all from Abraham to David, fourteen from David to the exile to Babylon, and fourteen from the exile to the Messiah.

>>81312834
nice book god you fucking clutz

>>81311606

in reality if that was a braille copy of the bible it would be like 15 volumes because braille books are a lot longer than regular books

>>81312859
What did you mean to say, son? Because you make zero sense.

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>>81311606
yes it is possible

Absolutely, but you would have to devote a lot of time and effort into it, probably too much.

>>81312921
Nice book, God, you fucking klutz.

>>81311606
>The most decimal places of Pi memorised is 70,000, and was achieved by Rajveer Meena (India) at the VIT University, Vellore, India, on 21 March 2015.

>Rajveer wore a blindfold throughout the entire recall, which took nearly 10 hours.

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/most-pi-places-memorised

Black Mad Max is my favorite movie.

This it's how many medieval books were saved by monks.

>>81312834
Organizing how one takes in data is important. Something like that can be stored in retrievable memory through certain methods.

It's pretty much necessary for STEM

>>81311606
I used to work with autistic kids and some of them could recite their special interest readings (fave books, articles about something they like) word for word. Not sure if they could do the entire book because usually we had to redirect them to a different topic since they would get crazy fucking excited and stuck on it, so I'd say it's possible. Might just take years, and maybe you'd need to be autistic but I don't know.

The only bible verse I know from memory is Ezekiel 23:20

>>81312987
God didn't write the bible ya dingus, people did.

>>81313036

i'm sure when he's on his deathbed he's not going to regret spending thousands of hours memorizing 70,000 decimal places of pi.

>>81313226
>Ezekiel 23:20
BLACKED?

>>81311606
I guess you've never been in the bible belt. it's actually very common

Before the printing press and shit people had very few books. They basically had the bible and shakespeare and maybe some greek philosophy. That's all you really need in the western world if you want to appear smart. Also I think a lot of it had to do with discussion. If you watch a movie and discuss it on /tv/, you're more likely to remember certain lines or scenes because they get discussed. If you were part of a christian community and discussed parts of the bible every day you would quickly remember parts of it easily.

>>81313036
>>81313293
he mostly did that memorization while shitting on the streets so its time well spent

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>>81313467
BANE?

>>81312987
That's better. Except God didn't write it. It was inspired by God, which is much different.

I knew a bunch of borderline retarded muslim kids who memorised at least parts of the quran, and a few that had it fully memorised. Just takes practice.

>>81313598
>tfw you can literally reenact the plane scene without rehearsing purely because of the discussion and memes
It's probably the same thing with people who can rehearse the bible. They meme it in their community until they remember what they want to remember.

>>81313685
>>81313598
>tfw the bible was the original baneposting

>>81313685
we know Manny you missed 1 line though

>>81313734
of courshe, we are the initiated, the enlightened.

>>81311606
Absolutely.

>>81313734
>Was getting crucified part of Your plan?
>Of course!

>>81313606
The Quran is way smaller than the Bible. It's a glorified pamphlet

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"For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future."

>>81311606
>hebrews
>revelations
>psalms
>some of proverbs
>some of deuteronomy
>most of the gospels
not the whole bible by a huge margin but if I've got that then some autsit must be able to have the whole thing

he's literally guided by God throughout the entire movie, he obviously didn't memorize it himself

>>81311606
>Who is Kim Peek?

>>81311606
this is the worst Denzel Washington film by far. Infact its his only bad film

>>81314330
lol how is it 'the worst'

>>81314220
what are your favorite verses?

>>81314330
What about Safe House? you think that film's better than Eli? you fucking pleb.

>>81314330
>Pelican brief

>>81314393
haven't seen it since it came out but i remember thinking it was fucking terrible. Im actually pissed off now that I remember it exists

>>81314450
revelations is metal af, the faith chapter hebrews 11 was drilled into me as a kid tho so weather I like it or not I find it going through my head without even realizing it
>now faith is the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen
fuck I'm doing it again

>>81311606
Nobody will know if he gets stuff wrong or makes changes, because they don't have a Bible to compare his version with.

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How the fuck do you think they kept the Bible for thousands of years? They weren't just passing a copy around, monks.devout priests memorized it word for word and kept it for future generations.

>>81313036
Not surprising it was an Indian desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPcasmn0cRU

>>81314577
maybe try watching it again sometime, its actually pretty great, be honest were you pissed off cause of the bible? cause I know a few edgelord atheists who 'hated' it because of that.

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>>81311606
It is possible to memorize a playbook to defeat a great evil

>>81314501
that was on tv the other night, I had forgotten how fucking awful it is

>>81314652
>oh and jesus was black btw

>>81314752
Oh it's pure garbage.

>>81314752
The Magnificent 7 is more trash than anything Denzel ha done before.
Even more trash than that movie with Matt Damon.

People used to remember massive amounts of information all the time before widespread literacy, it was the only way to preserve their culture.
Besides, many ancient texts have a lot of repetitions and formulaic phrases that were specifically put in to aid memorization.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral-formulaic_composition

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>>81314641
Revelations is pretty bad ass.

>>81314943
two guns? that looked pretty bad didn't watch it, magnificent seven is definitely a low point though
also just gonna mention The Fallen, that was great

>>81314655
Of course at the oral tradition stage it was much shorter and much more subject to change just from unintentional drift.

For most of the history though, it was written down. Judaism in its modern monotheistic form didn't really ever exist without written book, and elements of the pre-monotheistic reforms lingered in general public awareness until fairly late.

The oral period in Christianity was relatively short only 100 years before books of the sayings of Jesus (Q, the Gospel of Thomas), and the earliest narratives (Mark) were in circulation. The only really early documents were the letters of Paul and the versions we have today have been altered, or written in their entirety by later authors trying to sanitize him for the later orthodox audience.

There were cultures with traditions of bards who could perform long epic poems, but the bible doesn't seem to have been one of them.

>>81315070
That's Mark Wahlberg. He meant Courage under fire.

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>>81311606
>mfw remembering all the butthurt that movie caused to the butthurt fedoratippers

Fantastic.

>>81315032
now that I've thought about it, this is prob my favorite verse and chapter, revelations 13
>And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
iirc

>>81313036
/thread

>>81314393
It's fucking bad because it's about the bible, i mean come the fuck on you can't have anything good about religion.

With the help of Divine Providence you can do anything.

>>81315291
exactly, now I'm remembering why the criticism of this movie was all fucking nonsense, great film

>>81315152
I meant two guns. For some reason I always mistake Mark with Matt and viceversa.

Two guns was meh for Denzel standards. The movie is mindless entertainment and doesn'0t pretend to be anything else and that's okay.
Magnificent seven just felt tremendously shitty for some reason. Not sure if it was the cast or what but that movie was damn bad in general, at least to me.

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>>81315274
I'm still curious who the beast is supposed to be.

>>81315274
Its definitely my favorite record of a psychedelic experience about a conspiracy theory.

At the time it was a popular conspiracy theory that Nero had not in fact died, and instead fled and was building an army and would return.
Of course the more time it took the more magical and terrible it was imagined to be.
Its a bit like the Hitler survived meme in modern pop culture where the initial stories weren't that fanciful but by the 80s it had turned into Hitler's head controlling robot bodies.

>>81315509
I also always mix up matt and mark no idea why, departed was confusing af

>>81311606

I have Leviticus 18:22 tattoo'd above my dick and let men and women read it while they suck me off.

>>81312970
The guy did nothing but walk and read the thing for 30 years. Do you reckon that's enough?

>>81315784
satan who is the beast, the antichrist is the dragon
>And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. and he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
it gets kinda confusing after that

>>81315804
if their really was massive conspiracies about nero returning at the head of a zombie horde of legionaries or something, that makes me happy

>>81315784
I just mentioned it, but its the Emperor Nero.
Explained it a bit in >>81315804

Its a pretty thinly veiled polemic. The two numbers supplied 666 and the less common 616 break down as representing the value of either NERON CAESAR or NERO CAESAR

>>81311606
No.

>>81316079
I've never heard this theory but I like it the 'deadly wound' could refer to Nero, is their any documentation from the time besides John to back this up? that would be fascinating shit

>>81316052
The bible actually includes a zombie horde as part of the resurrection account. Christians generally ignore it because they think its silly (right up there with the talking ass), because it cheapens the return of Jesus since it happens before his resurrection (making him just one of a multitude), and because its representation of a imminent apocalypse is an embarrassment for a religion that still frequently cycles through apocalyptic movements.

>>81313105
no it isn't, just remember it. If you have to use tricks you aren't cut out for it

He probably used the method of loci.

>>81316223
yes I know, i'm more interested in this nero thing, that John was talking about nero coming back and fucking shit up, they should make a movie

>>81316348
the bible at least kjv, is very poetic it kinda rhymes or at least has a rhythm you memorize through repetition you repeat entire chapters over and over until its just their, then you move onto the next chapter, being very young helps of course the mind can absorb more information easier, but it can be done, a true autist could easily memorize the entire bible if they started young enough

>>81316162
Yeah, there's a ton of stuff written about this. Its actually well known enough that its mentioned on the Wikipedia article about Nero.

There are other non-Christian sources for the conspiracy theory so it wasn't just restricted to them, then as now new religious movements tend to latch on to conspiracies or other fringe beliefs.

Most of the scholarly books on these topics tend to be pretty expensive.
I think the first time I had it explained to me in depth was listening to the excellent Bible Geek podcast done by Robert M Price and its still a good listen as a cheap way to get a ton of information and better ideas for reading material.

>>81316490
The Bible was basically compiled from oral tradition. It's not like everyone was literate back then with access to pen and paper. You had to give things a certain rhythm, though obviously that wouldn't translate.

>>81316619
yea I just looked up revelations and nero, tons of stuff thanks reading material for days

>>81316079
Seems legit anon, thanks for the info.

>Writing in the early fifth century AD, Sulpicius Severus recounts the reign of Nero, "the basest of all men, and even of wild beasts...who will yet appear immediately before the coming of Antichrist" (Sacred History, II.28-29). Too, given that his body never was found, there are doubts whether he committed suicide; "even if he did put an end to himself with a sword, his wound was cured and his life preserved," as foretold in Revelation, "to be sent forth again near the end of the world, in order that he may practice the mystery of iniquity" (II.29).

>Nero, too, was the sixth emperor, counting from Julius Caesar (as did Suetonius, for example, and Josephus, cf. Antiquities of the Jews, XVIII.2.2, where Tiberius is identified as the third). "And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come" (Revelation 17:10). The sixth (and last) of the Julio-Claudian emperors, it is Nero who "is" but who has been "wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed" (13:3)—Nero redivivus.

http://penelope.uchicago.edu/~grout/encyclopaedia_romana/gladiators/nero.html

>>81316371
Might be a bit too similar to 300 since the army he was supposed to be leading was the Persians (that's what the number of heads is about).

I think I'd rather see movies based on stuff that got pulled out / obscured in the bible. Like Yahweh fighting the salt water chaos dragon Leviathan, dying, being revived by his wife asherah on the third day, and then making the dry land from its corpse.
Of course it will never happen for the same reason it got removed from the modern bible, religious people don't really like the fun hardcore stuff in their stories, especially when they're curiously similar to other nearby cultures who were demonized.
At least we got a pretty awesome version of it at the start of the game Xenoblade Chronicles.

>>81316665
Oral tradition definitely forms the lowest stratum, but the Bible we have now is more of a 'readers digest' condensed version.
Especially early on they had an ever growing amount of religious text that had to be fit into scrolls that needed to be kept short for practical reasons.
They couldn't just throw text away because it was too important though, with rival factions that had their own favorite versions due to details like the hero god, or the way the gods were depicted (the earliest parts of the written bible pre-date the monotheistic reform and were rather poorly edited to remove the polytheism).

So they'd condense things taking this version of a story from one text, that version of another story from a second text, or interweaving the two stories. Look up the documentary hypothesis / J source, D source, E source, P source, for more details. Its particularly obvious in the Flood myth where you have several versions on top of one another with conflicting details.

>>81316878
jesus raising the city with fire or chatting with dragons could be fun

>>81316794
>Nero
>the basest
lol

>>81311606
you'd be amazed at what you can do without all the memes porn and shitposting

>>81317364
It would be a pale imitation of the creation through combat myth though.
Which if you look at it, is exactly what the Jesus myth is in Revelation. A retelling of the suppressed Yahwhist combat, resurrection, triumph, and creation story.

Besides Evangelion already did it with giant robots.

>>81317843
>rasing the city with fire
>talking to the dragons
>driving out legion
do that shit, I don't think anyone except shithouse religious groups have tried, scorsese should do it, all the badass shit he pulled

>tfw people think he was blind

where's your proof

>>81318160
he was definitely at least very near sighted like legally blind, also he was actually completely blind but you can think he had some sort of vision if you like

>>81311606
with an extreme amount of dedication I believe there are some gifted people (read :autists) that could pulll it off. the better question is why you would want to though

>>81313226
>Ezekiel 23:20
>There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. So you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when in Egypt your bosom was caressed and your young breasts fondled.

Is this really in the bible?

>>81318509
You're just finding this out now? There's a whole book that's basically nothing but erotic poetry.

>>81311606
I only have John 3:16 memorized.
*glass shatters*

I think the only verse I could memorize is John 11:35

>>81318509
Well, look at it this way, if the biblical figures did exist, wouldn't you expect some of them to be like this, especially the elites?

One of the more compelling parts of the New Testament in particular is how petty, fretful, and humanly weak the apostles are. It actually helps them seem like realistic people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBZDj4nTFNY&t=1s

>>81315784
It's like any other prophecy: it means whatever you want it to mean.

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>that part where one of Moses' sons gets cursed forever because he just happened to see Moses when he was drunk and naked and wandering around like a lunatic

>>81319262
Its kind of an odd byproduct of the fact there were early groups that didn't like the apostles very much. Mark in particular seems to have drawn heavily from Paulinist possibly more specifically Marcionite sources and as a result in it they're basically depicted as a bunch of idiots for Jesus to mouth off to.

The later books attempt to rehabilitate them, but there was a push and pull over a period of time where a group would build up a character like Peter because he was the representative of their group, then another rival group would tear him down a bit.

Hey its time for another fun Bible fact:
Have you ever wondered about all the weird foot fetishism in the Bible? How women are always sleeping by mens feet, or gripping their feet while making an oath, or washing a mans feet?
The bible, especially the old testament uses 'feet' as a euphemism for dicks and balls

The Muslims have people who memorize the entire Quran. Its considered their highest scholastic achievement and perfectly encapsulates why they haven't accomplished anything in terms of science in a millennium.

>>81313289
Sorry sweetie, but the authors were inspired by the Holy Spirit. God had a direct influence over what was put in.

>>81319509
Its actually Noah.

That bit is actually a callback to earlier flood myths like the Gilgamesh epic. it was stated in those stories that the flood survivor was the first man to grow grapes and make wine.
So today it reads a bit odd when he curses one of his sons, but at the time they probably would have given him some slack since it was implied he was blitzed out of his mind because he didn't know that he'd get drunk.

>>81319509

It's implied he raped his father.

>>81319509
some have speculated that, along with the other really obtuse euphemisms in the bible, "saw" meant, well, doin' stuff

>>81319509
it's actually one of Noah's sons, Ham

the best part is that for a long ass time it was considered the origin story of black people

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_Ham#European.2FAmerican_slavery.2C_seventeenth_and_eighteenth_centuries

>>81319675
That's a bit of an extreme reading, but probably not outside the realm of what groups may have thought historically.
I wonder if we have that part of the Gilgamesh epic and if there's a similar story about one of the sons of Utnapishtim.
The invention of wine and subsequent drunkenness after the flood is definitely an original element.

>>81312663

Plus, it's extremely simplistic language. Very small total vocabulary.

>>81311606
>St. Thorlak memorized (by reading) all 150 psalms in the psalter at a very young age (app. five or six years old) without any guidance, formal education or reading instruction.

http://mission-of-saint-thorlak.weebly.com/patron-of-asd.html

>>81319575
>memorize a leaflet
>highest scholastic achievement
lol muslims are fucking dumb

>>81319509
the actual sin was that he saw his father naked, didn't cover him up and later told his brothers about it. he didn't care for his father's shame which is an outright disrespect

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>>81322899
>father gets drunk and acts like an idiot
>tell your brothers about it, since they're you know, fucking family and it's a funny story
>get cursed forever
WEW

>>81323023
it was a different time

(and it was actually a different time, patriarchal and stuff)

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>every page of a book contains 450 words in average
>the bible has 1200 pages
>1M of words
hmmm naw lol

>>81323023
Biblically, this was the first time wine was ever consumed, so it was essentially seeing your father delirious from an unknown poison and you proceed to laugh and shitpost about it, rather then help. Also as others have said, there is a subtext of rape.

Homer was blind and he kept his poems in his head.

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>>81313105
>It's pretty much necessary for STEM

>>81311606
yes quite easily. look into method of loci, it's quite easy to get into and do well with. experienced people that goes to memorization competitions aren't just born gifted most of the time, they use these tricks.

>>81319575
>Its considered their highest scholastic achievement
Not at all. No one gave a shit about memorizing the Quran until about ~50 years ago, and now it isn't considered an achievement at all but rather more of a requirement for Quranic scholars.

>perfectly encapsulates why they haven't accomplished anything in terms of science in a millennium.
>look how retarded I am!

>>81311606
eh isnt that what youre supposed to be doing on sunday outside of church if youre a mormon or baptist or something?

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>>81319509
>that part where Lot tells his wife not to look back at their home being destroyed and she gets turned into salt

>>81324163
>woman won't follow orders
>gets btfo

i don't see a problem with it lad

btw looking back in that context is holding on to the life they've had in Sodom and Gomorrah, she was missing their comfortable life, their wealth and possession which G_d had doomed

>>81311606

Yes. Jews and Muslims have special terms for people who remember their holy books and epic poems like the Illiad used to be transmitted orally.