It was actually good that was a surprise. Why are critics wrong?

>>81162962
HOW DARE YOU LIKE THIS WHITE WASHED POS

>>81163008

its funny how weebs are butthurt about this for no reason. When you call them out on it in person they stammer and MUHHH ANIME. It is very sad, not to mention the movie addresses the fact she is not asian. Good movie, I hate people.

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>>81162962
this was not a good movie.
bad direction, worse acting, no katanas

>>81162962
>finally after all these years, I am become The Ghost IN the SHell(tm)

jeez

also how come her suit looks cgi in this shot?

Should have been rated R and not just for the nipples

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>>81163235
>also how come her suit looks cgi in this shot?
because it is!
she's lumpy in real life

https://youtu.be/W-P_TyIyElU?t=1m46s

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42%

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ghost_in_the_shell_2017/

>>81162962
fuck you it wasn't

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FvaQmBeCzc

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>>81162962
felt like a water downed robocop and bladerunner hybrid, which isn't bad. I could see this as a gate way for normies to get into the anime and movies

>>81163182
not even actual weebs are mad about this
anyone who has seen/read any part of the franchise would know major is a robot

repost. just came back from this. aramaki and batou were fucking great. scarjo as the major was good. the visuals were amazing in 3d. the dialogues were ok. the scenes from the original that made it in were faithful to it. only bad part about this movie was that they barely showed anything of section 9.


why does it have like 40% on RT? why is /tv/ shitting on the best live action anime to date? this was more entertaining than the slow original.
inb4 muh deep

>>81163587
>>81163602

lol seriously?

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>>81163765
it's because /tv/ hates everything rebooted, remade, and sequels. they feel like they're redpilled but they're just being assholes

I bet it's just Bladerunner shills that gave this movie bad reviews.

>>81163755
This. Nobody who understood the premise of GitS actually cared that major was played by ScarJo.

Especially since they acknowledge Matoko's japanese human body heritage in her flashback

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are shitty movies better when watched at home instead of the theater?

>>81163926
i wouldn't know, i don't watch shitty movies.

>>81163926

I don't know if you are implying this is a shit movie but it was great in theaters

>>81162962
>It was actually good
No. No it wasn't you Hollywood shill.

>>81163916
Yeah but the people who do understand the premise hate it for entirely different reasons

>>81164035

yes it was you fucking weeb, cry more

>>81162962
I get that /tv/ has to be contrarian, but don't try and say this flick was good.

>>81162962
That guy who said /tv/ would praise this once it went below 45% on RT was right.

>>81164035
>>81164071
>i haven't seen the movie yet
ok

>>81164080
>hurr durr
it's because it happened to drop that low before anyone even seen it. it certainly does not deserve all the hate it gets. it's a 7.5/10 movie.

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yup
sjws upset at not giving role to asian
so they shit all over the movie

>>81164071
>>81164035
>people have different opinions than me what the fuck

>>81164131
This, I feel like people calling it total shit have never seen a movie that's actually bad. It's definitely a solid 7-8.

>>81163916
Guy who understood the premise of GitS here. I actually cared that The Major (who the fuck calls her major except stupid faggots who got introduced to GitS with this fucking movie) was played by ScarJo.

>Motoko Kusanagi
>military-grade cyborg super soldier known to be the best in tactical operations, leadership, small firearms, large arms, military material such as tanks and weaponry, and above all else hacking, who is second in command of a para-military super secret anti-terrorist government organization
>played by some womanlet who can't even fucking act whose arms tremble while trying to hold up a 1 pound prop of a pistol while walking down a hallway

>>81164172
having differing opinions doesn't excuse you from having shit taste

>>81164239
At least you are worried for the right reasons

>>81163293
that gun looks like a student project

>>81163885
The movie has nothing to do with Ghost in the Shell other than a shitty medical procedure. Instead it goes for a ham fisted shoe horned love story of two people while attempting to rip off the premise of Robocop.

Fuck outta here with that "haven't watched it" bullshit.

>>81164239
also throughout the movie she constantly walks with a retarded gait because for some useless reason the filmmakers decided that she is ''a cat'' or some shit

>>81163730
>robocop and bladerunner hybrid
Isn't that what GitS always was? At least from the Oshii movie onward

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>>81162962
At first I wanted this movie to do well because I like GitS. Now I just want it to do well because I fucking hate sjws who pretend they care about representation and the original source without knowing The Major is in a fucking robot body that is even generic in appearance to boot. Now it seems it won't get anything on either side.

I have not watched the movie yet because I'm waiting for my father to arrive to the city and watch it with him, I really do hope it's at least decent.

>>81164035
>not everyone is a mindless anime drone like me wtf

>>81164579
eat shit and die

>>81162962
>It was actually good

There's no "Ghost" in the Shell
How this supposed to be good?

You are retarded or something?

>>81164529
>ham fisted shoe horned love story of two people
Except there was practically no romance in this movie???

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once there is a bluray rip on the internet, /tv/ will love this movie.

>>81164631
I would rather not

>>81164155

holy shit that score...

fuck everything

>>81163587
She wishes she were that thin

>>81164783
then stop typing retarded shit

>>81164607


you won't be disappointed

1/3 kino, 1/3 anime homage/ripoff, 1/3 utter hollywood shit

its like they took an original good script and said 'people are too stupid for anything existentialist in this movie, lets make sure we spell out exactly what the title means with horribly delivered on the nose dialogue'

every time the word 'ghost' or 'shell' was used i cringed to myself in the theater

also going from having no real single villain (like in the original movie) to generic white corporate bad guy is so typical of hollywood jew producers, its a shame

not to mention it copies scenes from the original GITS movie but the last shot implies the movie was a prequel?? wtf??

It was awful OP.
This was even worse than the Assassins Creed movie and that says a lot.

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>>81164730
So MK and Kuze being critics of cyborg tech never happened?

The tank scene was meh, utter shit if you evern watched the tank scene in the original.

Also the CGI in some parts was civil war tier with Scarjo floating head.

>>81164876

>every time the word 'ghost' or 'shell' was used i cringed to myself in the theater

this. Really main thing wrong

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Hey guise, remember that part in the source material where Motoko was a petulant child who ran away from home to join a couple of communial hippies in a bad part of town writing down and spreading anti-technology manifestos?

that part was always my favorite

>>81164957

it wasnt as bad as that are you insane?

>>81164534
That also bothered the fuck out of me, I almost wanted to look around to see if anyone else noticed. Why was she walking so fucking weird the whole time? Wide-legged and arms out like trying to appear bigger or some shit. Just normally walking alongside Batou in some none-mission scenario she had some weird fucking gait like she's a huge buff dude who can't put his arms down because of his insane GAINZ, but she's some tiny woman. Why the fuck did they think that was a good idea?

>>81163587
Like I care about rotten tomatoes.

Fuck the haters I'm going to the theater, my country doesn't has a no singles policy.

>>81165011
Yes it was

>>81165008
Was that before or after the lesbian cyberbrain threesome?

My mistake was watching the original the day before going to watch this. Btw for a movie 30 years old it's pretty awesome.

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>>81165008
Yeah haha. The story would be terrible if she was an expert in military command and strategic warfare and all that haha

>>81163293
>It's just a glock
Couldn't have made it something nice, like an HK.

>>81165008
You have top tier taste famalam

>>81163916
I cared.
ScarJo is a mediocre actress and I think she was a pretty bad major

>>81162962
>Is it because current year butthurt shit?
Yes.

>>81165302
And lets not forget she's a chubby midget

>>81165383
she's literally only the lead in order to (attempt to) sell tickets. there's no other actresses that pull her $$ (theoretically - actors dont actually matter for box office returns like they used to)

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Did anyone else get triggered when not only did they gave Togusa like 2 minutes on screen time, but also in the one scene that he's the star in, they gave him a fucking Chiappa Rhino instead of a Mateba 6 Unica?

Because that triggered the fuck out of me pajamalamadingdongs.

I guarantee you, if this was a Marvel movie it would've gotten at least an 80% on RT.

>>81165443

no shit. Disney should have made this. Would be even more on the nose hamfisted and quips. Would have 90% on RT.

This movie was better then episode 7. I hate people

>>81165443
Yeah, like Iron Fi...wait

>>81162962

so does she not have nipples/genitalia/anus anymore?

why does she get offered a drink? where would it come out if she doesnt have a bagina?

>>81162962
i want to fuck her.

>>81165578
>why don't other people set their bar so fucking low as I do
>waah

>>81165637
keep posting anon

>>81165653

they sure set the bar low with episode 7. People ate that dog shit up. Enjoy your shitty Disney flicks

>>81165680
nobody itt mentioned disney shit except you. It's you who's eating that shit up

>>81165443
If it was original and not just being evaluated in comparison to the source material it would be at 90%

Well, I'm sitting waiting for the movie to start, so I'm hoping the shit throwers are wrong.

>>81166183
give me play by play how good her ass looks in the suit.

>>81166223
Is it really her ass if it's CGI though?

>>81166183
you will not be able to unsee this >>81165027

>>81166249
Please don't ruin this for me.

>societies can't live together!
>segregate all cultures!!!
>white people can't do this thing from another culture!


>omg why you no hire black people?!? I mean asians..

>>81162962
I don't get it either. I watched the first 2 movies and the 2 TV series, and I liked it. The director managed to pull things from all 4 of those pieces of work to make a serviceable movie. I think most of the criticism is literally because Scarlet is white.

I was waiting all movie for it to become bottom of the barrel shit, as the reviewers said it would - it didn't happen.

There was an explanation for all the dumb things you would be critical of. The low tech eyes Batou got (which weren't that bad as you could see lenses turning inside of them) had a light hearted sequence to address it.

The fact that the major had a caucasian shell was also explained by the fact that the Robotics company was American, and that her original body was Japanese.

>>81166481
>>white people can't do this thing from another culture!
/tv/'s argument since Scarlett was announced.

>>81165437
Same, I waited like the whole movie and then it was the wrong fucking gun

underrated as fuck

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>>81163293
>You will never be paid to catch a falling Scarjo
Wake me up

>>81166503
This movie has the same problems as was plagued by the Silent hill adaptation, if not worse

It's got some things nailed down but it's mostly easy surface-level shit ("look, we have a spider tank. And we made this shot look 1:1 similar to the anime!" wink wink reference reference)

Meanwhile all the really cool interesting and thoughtful shit is lost and discarded. It really is ghost in the shell made for retards.

>>81162962
I have never watched GITS and I thought it was trash. The only thing I liked about the movie was the costumes and general look of the world. (the holograms were fucking distracting though)

>>81166715
>GitS
>thoughtful shit
Gotta love babby's first philosophical adventure.

>>81164239
You seem to be a rarity though, all the people I've seen crying about it on Facebook and Twitter are ugly women with problem glasses and emotional incontinence, and they all hate it purely because of ScarJo being white.

>>81166715
Are you the kind of person who thinks Innocence's text dumps and philosophical quote dropping was intelligent?

Also, the themes in the original movie aren't that deep in today's standards. And even then, the live adaption still emphasized the idea of what humanity really is.

The fact that they didn't sit in a boat for 5 minutes name dropping philosophers must have inflamed the sores in your asshole or something.

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>make a slightly better version of Robocop 2014
>except they added names and straight up rip-offs of scenes from a 22 year old anime
What is the purpose of this movie? Who wanted to make it?

It wasn't really good, but it looked nice. The dialogue was ham-fisted, and someone should count up the number of times they directly namecheck the 'ghost' and the 'shell'. The acting was stilted, which I suppose is fine for the Major. The plot itself was actually reasonably well adapted, and the soundtrack was on point.

The visuals were stunning.

Beautiful film to look at. Not a bad plot. Pretty shit script, awful dialogue and stunted acting. 6/10

>>81166769
nah, eat a dick

also if you're saying that the source material and/ or anime is already babby mode, then it's extra disgraceful that this movie threw away even that semblance of cerebral content

>>81164239
>>military-grade cyborg super soldier known to be the best in tactical operations, leadership, small firearms, large arms, military material such as tanks and weaponry, and above all else hacking, who is second in command of a para-military super secret anti-terrorist government organization
>this is """"good""" Japanese characterization

kek, it's like Mike describing the "strong female character".

>>81166974
>nah, eat a dick
Thoughtful shit right here.

>then it's extra disgraceful that this movie threw away even that semblance of cerebral content
Maybe they just didn't wanna bother with superficial, first semester philosophy shit in what is essentially a style over substance IP.

>>81166929
yes instead we have another robocop reboot storyline

because we didn't have enough of those already

>>81164876
>the last shot implies the movie was a prequel
I missed this, explain please.

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Do you see her ass a lot in the movie

If not I don't care

>>81165437
If the used a rhino I have to assume that they knew about the mateba but just couldn't get one since retards always conflate matebas and rhinos because "they both shoot from the bottom!!"

It would probably be a pain in the dick to get an actual mateba

>>81163730
Throw in a little Bourne as well. Also a little nod back to The Matrix.

>>81165008
This is not valid criticism though.

>>81167132

Yes, actually

>>81167132
yeah

>>81167118
this movie focuses on her boring-ass origins

the final minute or so features a montage of the movie you actually wanted to watch: Section 9 looking cool, working as a team and solving cybercrime

basically the exact same thing which happened in ridley scott's Robin Hood, if anyone still remembers that

>>81167118
the shot of her on the roof jumping off at the start of a mission is the same rooftop jump shot (basically) as the opening of the original GITS movie

aramaki's dialogue may have been the same too i dont remember

>>81167066
The story line included parts of 2nd gig as well as some of the first movie - are you saying that is essentially a robocop copy?

If you've actually seen the anime you would know that they aren't just soullessly aping another movie. /tv/ doesn't actually watch shit though, so it makes that they shitpost after seeing a few clips from the 1995 film.

>>81165627
She seemed to have a normal naked body when she took her wetsuit off on the boat. So my guess is that the she was wearing some sort of "armor" when she was invisible and "naked". They never showed or talked about that though, just a guess.

>>81167247
it's a lame disjointed mish-mash of it and you know it, you shill piece of fuck

>>81167277
Its the thermo optic camoflage you see the rest of the film?

>>81167247
Ripping off scenes from another film is the fucking definition of creative bankruptcy.

Ehh it's a serviceable action flick
Obviously its nowhere the 95 film

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>tfw this was the only good song to come out of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLDLlVrPLA4
>tfw you find out boys noize is still a thing

>>81165008
>>81165008
She didn't even have an origin in the original movies, and the TV series thereafter changed how she came about slightly as well.

Why do I feel like most criticism here is just because they want to justify be too poor to go and watch the movie themselves?

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>>81167133
>It would probably be a pain in the dick to get an actual mateba
If some random faggot like myself can get one, I'm sure the gorillionaires in Hollywood can get just one for all of their "sir, we need a futuristic looking gun that's out of the norm- Say no more" movies.

Sure I looked for a while and paid a few grand but holy shit, we're talking about a span of almost a decade and people who make millions a year.

>>81165145
>Actually canon thing kusanagi does

>>81167333
what a cute pupper

>outward hound

fugg

>>81164529
There was no love story you tard. Are you autistic or did you not watch it?

>>81167344
>Why do I feel like most criticism here is just because they want to justify be too poor to go and watch the movie themselves?
They can't admit the film may have some merit. They also can't admit they're mostly making up criticisms as they go along, since it's pretty fucking clear plenty of people haven't actually watched the film.

>>81167364
It's not the cost but the fact that you'd have to scour gunbroker for a while to even find one.

It's a lot easier to get a manufacturer to throw free guns at your feet so that they'll be seen in a movie

>>81167344
why the fuck is it necessary for her to have one?

and in turn, to tell the same robocop tale all over again

fuck you if you think that's good

>>81167433
Or maybe people just have different opinions on things than you. Imagine that. You absolute fucking moron, I truly hope this is bait

>>81164607

You're a good son.

>>81167474
>Or maybe people just have different opinions on things than you. Imagine that.
Oh, no I can cope with you having shit taste just fine.

But it's so obvious that people like you and other weeb faggots are incapable of interpreting simple explanations as to why things may differ from the original film. There's still people bitching about Scarlett being Major in spite of the official explanation featured in the film itself.

A live action adaptation, differing from the material off which it was originally based on. Imagine that.

>>81167389
>Are you autistic or did you not watch it?

it seems that you didn't watch it since kuze and major were liking each other before they got kidnapped, put their brain into adult white people and got their minds wiped

>>81167439
>It's a lot easier to get a manufacturer to throw free guns at your feet so that they'll be seen in a movie
And there is your very valid point. I'm sure the Rhino has gained a lot of popularity due to its multiple recent appearances in futuristic scifi movies that proved to be big sellers. Hollywood did make a good choice there I guess. They get a free gun prop on demand for whatever movie they're making, and the gun manufacturer gets free advertisement.

I'm just pissed they decided to do that with Togusa, that's all.

>>81164607
I had a nice time watching it. It's nothing spectacular, but it's alright.

>>81165437
>>81167133
>>81167364
>>81167439
Pretty sure Togusa used a 2006M in the original, not a Unica 6. This guy claims that there are only 4 in the US and he owns 2 of them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHxo2cHsits

>>81164607
it isn't as shit as it seemed like it should have been. Scarlett is the only objectively bad part. Your reception of the changed story may vary.

>>81163755
>not even actual weebs are mad about this
Plenty of actual weebs are retarded and REEE at everything uncontrollably.

>>81162962
Shillposters gtfo

>>81165437

Oh man, I thought it -was- a Mateba and got excited about it. That's a shame.

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>>81164730
But Kuze and Motoko did kinda have a thing in S.A.C

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>>81167714
>Togusa used a 2006M
Looks like you're right, all that does it make it even more true that it would be difficult to get.

>>81165190
>falling for the HK meme

>>81164822
Can't stop if I never started

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>>81167714
>Pretty sure Togusa used a 2006M in the original, not a Unica 6.
It is in the original 1995 movie. Every iteration following that, he uses a 6 Unica as far as I can tell though.

>>81164979
Ok, but that doesn't make for a love story.

>>81167846
To be fair it's the same dude who made the design of the Rhino too.

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>>81164529
The Kuze story borrowed from 2nd gig. Even the pseudo love story.

/tv/ spends too much time on cunny and not enough time actually watching things. I bet you barely made it through the original 1995 movie with 50 tabs of teen girl instagrams open.

>>81167916
you suck and we hate you

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>>81167714
>>81167978
Just to elaborate on my assumption: here's first episode of GITS:SAC.

But yes, in the original it was a 2006M, you are correct.

>>81162962
BOY IN THE WALL

>>81168005

Thank you, kind /k/ommando. I know next to nothing about guns, so it's always interesting to find out trivia like this.

>>81168095

Except Motoko met Kuze while they were both in a hospital before she received her cybernetic body... as opposed to being two teenaged "Viva la Revolution!" homeless fucktards who are kidnapped by a mega corp for experimentation.

So, yeah, not really the same at all.

>>81162962
Yeah its a great origin story with good actors and a lot of references to anime

>>81168140
That's still a 2006, round cylinder not hexagonal, frame is different, no giant ass beavertail

>>81164529
It was a worse Second Gig's story pasted over literally all the exact scenes from the 1995 film.

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>>81168095
>implying I watched the original anime film in 2017 rather than when it came out
>instagram
Wanna know how I know you're underage

>>81168004
Cool. It makes it worse. The friend zoned cuck and the cyborg. Yippee.

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>>81164239
>womanlet

>>81168211
I think that was intended to be a Unica 6, it has the autorevolver function

>>81167247
>The story line included parts of 2nd gig as well as some of the first movie - are you saying that is essentially a robocop copy?

The only thing it had in common with 2nd Gig was that there was a guy named Kuze who knew the Major from before she joined Section 9.

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>>81168211
There is clearly no solid top like the 2006M has though.

>>81167118
she fades away with the thermo camouflage or whatever in the original
passing her hand over her face and everything

>>81164254
nice further proving my point

>>81167333
>Cool, a live action GITS movie. Maybe it'll make cool use of more traditional/atmospheric music like the movies and TV series
>Generic sci-fi techno music

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>>81168430
*like in the original

>>81168452
that song is not from the film. Its probably used for tv spost / trailers

>>81168452
>let's save the iconic theme for the final credits because fuck you

really don't get why it didn't do that since it had no shame in stealing literally everything else it wanted out of the manga, anime, sequel and tv-series for its disjointed af storyline

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The film took the most accessible aspects from the franchise and dumbed them down to a pretty extreme level.

I ended up liking it though, but I went in with insanely low expectations. It's probably the most visually accurate live action adaptation of an anime ever, and it was entertaining enough. Their recreation of the spider tank scene and Batou chilling with a doberman were neat. Strange that they went with a sort of opposite ending to the 1995 film, where Major instead rejects uploading herself. Soundtrack was a total let down too. Probably going to be too weird for normies overall.

>>81164239
They often refer to her as the major 8n the manga

>>81164131
>7.5
No, it doesn't deserve more than a 6.

>>81168574
>where Major instead rejects uploading herself

I AM A UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE WHO DOES NOT CONSENT TO A MIND MERGE

>>81165426
Jennifer Lawrence

>>81167566
>liking each other before they got kidnapped
All of that was subtly implied. Both of them seem to have moved on, relationship-wise, at that point in the movie. The Major's interest in Kuze is about the same as her her interest in her mother: All part of her finding about her past life. Kuze may be interested in her due to their common origins and was the one to drive her to find out the truth, but he seems more interested in getting her to join in his robot transcendence. You could say the Major has as much romance with Batou as she does with Kuze. There is little in the way of any focus on romance in the movie.

>>81167566
>adult white people

Ah, I get where you are coming from now. Probably no objects from you if it were 2 japanese actors having a platonic/pseudo romance.

>>81163235
https://youtu.be/nbCyXVEVpKk

Do you think the fight against the mecha tank in the cathedral in Black ops 3 was inspired by the tank fight scene in GitS?

>>81168430
yeah, that you have shit taste

>>81163008
*jewish washed

>>81168791
you don't get where I'm coming from, actually

it was just fucking weird

it's as if they went back for reshoots to explain the ''white-washing'' knee-jerk reaction shit in the plot while not thinking about how fucking dumb their explanation for it was

>>81162962
It was alright. I'm a faggot for all thinga GitS and it was way better than Arise at least.

she did have a quasi origin in both stand alone complexand arise, i think the soft retelling in arise
actually acclimated me for this movie which i thought was an entertaining film. arise was essentially the popcorn version of ghost in the shell which this followed

Why was the tank fight bad according to /tv/?

The fight had suitable amounts of environmental destruction, the way the tank moved wasn't cheesy, the gunfire didn't seem pathetic.

Even the her ripping the top off the tank wasn't bad. /tv/ made it seem like it would be the worst scene in the world but it wasn't.

>>81168188
It gives more motivation for Kuze whilst still fitting in with the movie concisely. They're both essentially background details. At least this way, he has some more background with her that you don't have to establish on-screen. If they had him in the hospital, autists like you would complain about how they wasted time shoehorning in a hospital scene so the Major could have a romance with some random fuck. Not everything has to be exactly the same.

>>81168237
>Cool. It makes it worse. The friend zoned cuck and the cyborg. Yippee.
Your problem for interpreting it as a love story and getting angry regardless

>>81167061
>style over substance IP
You clearly haven't watched the anime series.

>>81168957
No I do actually.

Or you would not have said it was a "ham fisted shoe horned love story " based on 2 seconds of Hideo yelling Motoko's name as she was being torn away.

If you actually watched 2nd gig you would see the Kuze / Motoko angle wasn't far fetched and was probably intentionally borrowing and adapting from the series.

Again like I said before, close the cunny tabs and actually watch shows you speak so authoritatively about.

>>81168845
>Black ops 3
black ops 3 burrows a lot form Ghost in the Shell, plus some deus ex stuff

>>81169155
The movies were style over substance - Innocence way more guilty of that.

It was literally a text dump for minutes on end. Name dropping philosophers to stretch out the question of "What makes humans human?" to the breaking point.

>>81169062
>Not everything has to be exactly the same.

No, but it diminishes both their characters to have them reduced to revolutionists retards in their past life instead. If this is the best you can come up with, then it's better to stick with what you have available

>>81168574
>The film took the most accessible aspects from the franchise and dumbed them down to a pretty extreme level.

Instead of making the anti-cyborg folks right and making the corporation that makes cyborgs the badguys, it should have made the anti-cyborgs wrong (but for relatable reasons) and made one of the bad guys a single corrupt government official/corporate guy. Basically the bad guys end up being manipulated tools of one guy who is cynically trying to use the strengths/weaknesses of a preexisting system to their advantage.

Which is more or less how GitS has always worked, and wouldn't have been too difficult to put into the film as a twist. Just add a scene at the end where they confront the main bad guy after he thinks he's escaped so the Major can explode his chest cavity.

But making the big corporation that does all the cyborg shit the villain is just fucking lazy.

>>81169155
Boy, if there's anything that I love more than 2 hours of philosophical navel-gazing shit is a complete season or two or philosophical navel gazing shit.

Fact of the matter is, Japanese writers are not very good at communicating ideas, let alone complex philosophical musings. They write painfully unaware essays instead of coherent dialogue, and they'll always have these painfully contrived scenes of a character dictating his entire morality code on a single seating.

>>81162962
Its shit though. Scarjo is terrible.

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>>81163552
Why would a cyborg be two-handing a weapon

Even she can't be bothered to care / take this seriously. Look at her face, she's on the verge of laughing

Fucking hollywood. Why is this allowed

>>81167389
No evidence of that at all. If anything they were more like family. But that just makes you beat it harder doesnt it you sick fuck

The biggest problem with this movie is that it COMPLETELY misses the point of the original one and COMPLETELY ruins motoko's character.

In the original motoko joins a hivemind, this signals us that the individual humanity is less important than the next, greater thing. It embraces transhumanism and technoprogressivism.

In this pile of garbage Motoko rejects the hivemind because LOL IM A SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE INDIVIDUAL WHO NEED NO EVOLUTION

fuck this movie.

>>81169256
It's literally just background details to tie in Kuze's motivations. They spend less than a minute talking about it. Why are you getting so triggered?

>>81164785
The movie isn't even terrible it's just morally repugnant

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Art is never without controversy

>watch GitS
>Scar Jo in Hong Kong
>Everywhere is hong kong
>ZZZZZZZZZ
>EVIL JEW CORPORATE GUY

ScarJo is a terrible actress

>>81169345
I didn't think the movie was that great but
>In this pile of garbage Motoko rejects the hivemind because LOL IM A SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE INDIVIDUAL WHO NEED NO EVOLUTION
This Mokoto had reason for keeping her human form, to reconnect with her mother and give her some sort of solace after believing her daughter had been dead for years.

It's different and not as great but not like they were ever going to do that other ending anyways.

>>81169358
I think you might be retarded. It's both kuze and motoko's origins and it's a shit one at that.

>>81169277
It basically is one guy using his status to make his employees and the government follow his orders, and covering up some of the nastier experiemental stuff. The doctors who work on the project don't even know where the bodies come from, and after it reaches that point its basically contractual work that is exploited the same way any other regular business would. Its not like we see the whole board of directors agree on this. They probably all thought it was gonna make them some great profits now that they can make fullbody cyber

>>81169288
>a complete season or two or philosophical navel gazing shit.
SAC is nothing like that though, it's two seasons of brutally uninteresting political gibberish and some white collar crime

>Motoko and Batou aren't cops
This makes no sense!

>>81169384
>muh RT

some of the most successful films are certified rotten on RT if youre actully listening to critics instead of watching a film and deciding for yourself then you need ending

>>81164607
Thanks for waiting for me son. I'll arrive to the city soon. I too hope it is decent.

>>81169169
If (You) actually watched 2nd Gig (You) would see Kuze was merely attempting to manipulate Motoko because of the fact they knew each other as kids AND because they both survived in the same plane crash, as if the Major would ever just give up on her duties as a Section 9 employee so easily. Pleb, please, this is nothing more than further proof Hollywood misinterpreting the plethora of GiTS material out there. GTFO before you embarass yourself even further.

>>81169345
in this movie it's not even a hivemind she would join, rather a bunch of junkies living exclusively in cyberspace

or that's what I got from it anyway

hideo/kuze isn't an AI created out of the vast global network, but just some faggot with brain problems. The network that he created were just a bunch of people hooked up on the net *for some reason*

not excusing what this movie did, because I hate it for pretty much a thousand other reasons, but this version of motoko had good reasons to stay away from that third-rate bullshit

>>81169701
That's what I was hoping to imply in the image anon. Scores don't matter

>>81169457
>Don't agree with you
>Therefore, I must be retarded
Look in the mirror sometime anon
>It's both kuze and motoko's origins and it's a shit one at that
If you're just gonna repeat
>it's a shit
and not give a reason why, then I'm gonna assume you're just triggered. I already explained why it worked alright, but you seem determined find a reason to hate it. Even a few inconsequntial throwaway lines that gives the Major and Kuze a common background without being too overbearing

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I just got back from seeing it, some criticism is justified but most isn't. Overall it was pretty good, pacing was well done.

>>81169384
>Watchmen twice
kek

ANIME IS FOR RETARDS.
End of the discussion.

The most important takeaway from this I feel is that they changed the bad guy from corrupt government and terrorists among refugees to some corporate military industrial guy.

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>>81168237
>getting mad at literally nothing

>>81169968
Yep it is.

>>81169968
Yes, and god knows the people that browse /tv/ are highborn intellectuals. Fuck off newboy.

>>81169384
Birdman is the only Art. All other movies in that picture are trash.

>>81169968
Not all, but mostly all. Mere "fan service" bullshit.

>>81165426

This. They practically admit as much. Everything about this screams soulless cash grab. And that's exactly what the movie was.

>>81170081
How is it possible to have such shit taste. Birdman is one of the worst on there

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>Anime is once again protected from normies and American film studios

>>81166179

Yup. But it's not original. So it's shit. Exactly how it should be.

>>81169968
wll excusme
moe is ok, right
mecha is like mmm ok right

>>81162962
Should I see this or Kong Skull Island tomorrow? I kind of want to skip it because I'm a huge fan of the franchise and it looks like generic Scarjo shit. PS I'm going with my Dad.

>>81170152
nigga if akira happens which anime would be next to get its adaptation?

>>81164239
When talking to her they say Major, but when referring to her they say The Major.

>>81170019

Goda was full on Military/Industrial complex in 2nd Gig, only he used his intelligence services access to manipulate terrorist, government, and corporate entities alike.

I think having the CEO be the straightforward badguy is simplifying things a lot, though, and makes it pretty much like Robocop and every other dystopian sci-fi movie.

>>81170198

probably watch kong if going with your dad. But if you both like robo tits and ass watch shell

>>81170216
Some American studio got the rights to Naruto.

Just think about that for a second. Americans trying to adapt something like Naruto.

>>81170216
Eva

>>81164607
Kill yourself.

>>81170198
Kong was apekino and GITS was female robotcop

>>81170260
>American Naruto
>A Netflix Original Series

>>81170260
>portraying ninjas as orange colored track suit wearing edgy kids with DBZ powers

Oh yeah, wouldn't want Hollywood to ruin that masterpiece.

Whats the soundtrack like? Do they use any Origa(even in the credits)?

>>81170314
Do you seriously think America can adapt something like that without butchering it?

>>81170320

ya. Soundtrack is cyberpunk basicness. Nothing outstanding but decent synth

>>81162962
I dont care about whitewashing or whatever the shills are shilling, the movie is still bad.

>>81170260
>Just think about that for a second. Americans trying to adapt something like Naruto.

"Ninjas summoning shit, turning into logs, and using joot-tsoos? This shit aint ninja. Needs more katanas and black pajamas. And what's with this fox demon? Foxes aren't demonic. Make it a human with horns and goats legs."

>>81170320
Probably not, it's in a foreign language and American normies would all start yelling at the screen because they have to actually read.

i'll probably jerk off to it later

>>81170314

Naruto is based (loosely) on mythological ninjas.

>>81170370
>America makes Naruto an "urban" story
>Everyone dresses like normal people
>Naruto is black now

>>81170345
>butchering an already butchered version of ninjas

Wait, is this the part where we pretend Naruto was actually a masterpiece because hollywood is gonna adapt it?

>>81170320
the theme song from the original plays in the credits

>>81170403
Dragon Ball is based (loosely) on Journey to the West.

>>81170320
no, but most of the "action" songs are similar, except for the spider tank battle

>>81170198
It's better than Kong but neither is very good

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>>81170216

M.D. Geist

starring Chris Hemsworth

just got back, i thought the soundtrack was garbage and there was basically unnecessary futuristic sound/ambiance in every scene. they completely missed the mark on the atmosphere of the city. they also try and fucking force feed the concept of ghosts, diving and pretty much everything else and its pretty much just shit from start to finish. you also dont give a shit about any of the characters and they somehow made it a snooze fest too, prob the music being terrible. batou and aramaki were good though

I enjoyed it. It was better than the original anime because the story was not as confusing.

>>81170119
>How is it possible to have such shit taste
easy like this!
https://letterboxd.com/azkaban/films/ratings/by/rating/

>>81170460

Again, Naruto is based on mythological ninjas who are quite different from usual black pajama wearing Katana wielding anti-Samurai kind Americans are used to.

It's not so much that Naruto was a masterpiece, but any US adaptation will almost certainly lose sight of the underlying inspirations because Naruto is so terribly Japanese.

Part of why a lot of foreign adaptations of US properties end up so hilariously bad/off the mark. Like the anime version of Ninja Turtles and the Avengers.

also why did some garbage man randomly have a automatic weapon and optical camo???????? or am i retarded?

>>81170275
t. sjw who kept bitching at the major not being a nip

>>81168688
As opposed to

I AM A UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE WHO GOT PICKED BY THIS ENTITY TO BE THE NEXT EVOLUTION OF LIFE

>>81170636
>Naruto is loosely based on mythological ninjas
Fixed that for you.

My favorite part about your post is that you're still suggesting that it's somehow possible to ruin an already shitty anime/manga like Naruto. Then again, >normies trying to discuss anime or manga

Lmao I just saw a post on FB from an asian sjw. "Asian ideas are profitable but not asian characters."

Fucking hilarious. Felt like commenting "Why are you taking agency away from the major, she's a robot and can choose to look however she wants."

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>>81170779
It's funny, SJWs became useful tools for this movie.

>SJWs won't see it
Normies widely won't see it
>Anime fans won't see it

>>81170749
>My favorite part about your post is that you're still suggesting that it's somehow possible to ruin an already shitty anime/manga like Naruto. Then again, >normies trying to discuss anime or manga

It is possible to make something that's already bad worse. And it should come as no surprise when people groan at the idea of someone deciding to make what is sure to be a subpar adaptation of an already subpar work.

>>81170849
Plus, all that free advertising. I don't want to see it because I just want normies to stay out of my anime

I fucking hated those holograms and I think the city would've looked cooler without them.

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They should have had the QT who played Katana play The Major.

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>>81170899
Agreed. They already infected comic books, Star Wars and video games. Thankfully, anime still has stigma around it that will scare off normies.

>>81170934
>Karen is for _____?

>>81170969
It's ok because the nips don't care about SJWs, also marvel bent over backwards for SJWs and now their sales are way down.

>>81170969
The only thing your allowed to do with her is protect her smile, nothing lewd...

Anyone had a feeling that Motoko's mother was drunk as fuck in the movie? Everything she said sounded slurred.

>>81171027

thats coz shes asian they always sound drunk

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>>81170997
Case in point, the 2B ass fiasco and Nioh:
>Instead of listening to SJWs, Yoko Taro asks people to collect photos of her ass and put them in ZIP folders every week
>Actual Japanese people had to tell westerns that it's NOT racist for Nioh's lead to be white because he was an actual person and the first white samurai

>>81171008
I would like to protect that smile.

>>81171343
>Instead of listening to SJWs, Yoko Taro asks people to collect photos of her ass and put them in ZIP folders every week
we're not worthy

Saw it yesterday. Was not a good movie if you judge it versus every other Ghost in the Shell piece. It looked kind of like Ghost in the Shell but definitely wasn't. On its own it's a forgettable sci-fi/cyberpunk (not even that cyberpunk-y) movie that would not be worth seeing. It rides solely on the name and is going to make a shitload of money because of the name.

>>81171343
>>Actual Japanese people had to tell westerns that it's NOT racist for Nioh's lead to be white because he was an actual person and the first white samurai
You have to making this shit up. Nobody would be this delusional.

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>>81171423
SJWs don't know anything:
>William Adams (Miura Anjin, the Japanese name he was given) was the first white samurai
>Japan even has a memorial built for him
>SJWs call a Japanese company racist because Nioh didn't have a Japanese lead

>>81171343
Ok I didn't hear of this Nioh thing.

>A sailor named William, in pursuit of an enemy, arrives in Japan and is enlisted by Hattori Hanzo, servant to Tokugawa Ieyasu, in defeating yōkai that are flourishing in the chaos of war.
>William Adams became one of the first ever (and one of the very few) Western samurai.

Holy fuck social justice was a mistake.

>>81171343
>>Instead of listening to SJWs, Yoko Taro asks people to collect photos of her ass and put them in ZIP folders every week
he did that shit to appeal to memers like you

>>81171343
>>>81170997
>Case in point, the 2B ass fiasco and Nioh:
>>Instead of listening to SJWs, Yoko Taro asks people to collect photos of her ass and put them in ZIP folders every week
Wasn't the ass fiasco the presence of an asshole being tightly covered and it being photoshopped?

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>>81171516
They can't complain about no black characters either because they even included a black samurai who was also a real samurai as well.

>>81171516
>hasn't read Shogun by James Clavell

Nigga get you to the library immediately

>>81163182
It's actually chinks that are mega butthurt but they use reasons like MUH ANIME to deflect any parallels between assblasted niggers and assblasted chinks. They're way too obvious, any person can see that chinks are mad because the main character is white.

>inb4 shes a jew

You know exactly what I mean.

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>>81171521
At least that means he knows his market, since appealing to sjws is awful because they don't buy even the stuff that is for them.

>>81171544
iirc the ass thing was a rounder and deeper matter

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They literally made her a robot with no personality.

The visuals were absolute Kino though I want that scene of the guy running through the alley while a airplane passes overhead to be my background

>>81171634
>It's actually american chinks
ftfy
no one else in the world gives a shit about this

>>81171691
>while a airplane passes overhead
Did they really rip off every shot/scene in the anime?

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>>81168935
i cant believe i've been rekt this hard
i'm going to kill myself

My problem with the film was not Scarlet Johannsen.

My problem with the film was the way Motoko's character was written. In the manga and the anime, every major event in her life since she was cyberized was her decision. Life handed her a choice and she made a choice willingly. She was in control of her life as much as she could be.

The Motoko in this film is a victim. Her cyberization was the result of being a victim. Her battles with Kuze turned her into a victim. Her contention against the "Evil Corporation" made her a victim. At no time was she ever in control of anything.

That's not Motoko Kusinagi.

Besides, the script was a mashup of the first anime film and GITS: SAC Second Gig with the cliche "Evil Corporation" thrown in as a cardboard villain. And the direction was visionless.

>>81171713
You're probably right. Oversea chinks literally worship whites and idolize them and their looks, so they wouldn't really fuss about it like American chinks.

>>81171759
every? no. there's a few that they felt were super cool to the point where they wanted to do it "IRL" though.

Everyone who liked the Aramaki actor should go watch the two Outrage Movies lmao

It took a lot of mental power to dissociate him from that character but i think it made Aramaki even better

>>81171759
Of course otherwise they couldnt call this Ghost in the Shell to rake in nerd money.

>>81171638
Mind explaining the ass thing then?

As for SJWs, any self respecting developer knows not to appeal to them.

>>81171797
Takeshi Kitano is amazing. Watch all of his movies.

>>81169968
wow when did i time travel back to 2014

>>81171759
In the 1995 movie the airplane passes overhead in a different scene

>>81171759
There were a ton of shots recreated in it yeah.

Just got back from seeing it.
Longtime fan.
I enjoyed it.
Fight me.

>>81163008
>>81162962
Kind of surprised it got shit since jews like SCARJO usually get away with sjw shit.

>>81171769
she was basically the antimajor because she was some newbie stuck in a body who had questionable combat abilities

>>81171801
Well yeah the whole fiasco started with a screenshot of the butthole. Looking at videogame footage it is certain it was photoshoped to look more brown, but the thing grew bigger. I remember people just complaining about her ass motions and about oversexualization. Some artists then began doing lots of butt drawings. Then Yoko Taro did his tweet.

>>81169288
>Fact of the matter is, Japanese writers are not very good at communicating ideas, let alone complex philosophical musings

I agree that lots of Japanese shit hamfists their way through any subject, but the American version didn't even try. They replaced anything philosophical with a revenge/origin plot so they can franchise off of it.

Fuck any one defending this piece of shit and stop throwing around your bullshit excuses that the only people who hate this movie is because they hired a white chick. Nobody on this board gives a fuck about her race.

I feel it's getting mostly bad reviews because of the whitewashing thing and because most reviewers seem to be comparing it to the original.

The problem is, the Original GITS movie isn't actually that great. It's basically just people sitting round name dropping philosophers and philosophical quotes to make it seem DEEEEP tied together by some of the best action sequences out there.

Lets be honest here though, if this movie was like called 'Black Widow" and had a Disney and Marvel logo at the front, it would easily be getting like 90% RT scores. I actually don't think this movie was that great, I would give it like a 6 out of 10, but most of those Capeshit movies that get like 80-90% RT scores are like a solid 3/10, This movie alone has better cinematography and visuals than every marvel movie put together.

How in fuck is this movie worse than Ghostbusters Reboot?

>it was real life instead of 2D like my waifus so it sucked

/tv/ is a joke

>>81171772
Who else other than americans would blame "white people" for literally everything?

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>Pork in the Shell is a massive Bomba.

thank you, unholy SJW-Weeb Alliance.

>>81171817
I will

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Who else here thought Batou was pretty good? Bro-tier as usual.

>>81171936
ngl I was mad as fuck when they first announced it but now I don't even care because the movie was dogshit.

>>81171941
that's the movie's downfall. being attached via name to something else that people automatically expect a lot out of. it did not come anywhere near being worthy of the name.

>>81171975
>SJWs and weebs working together

truly the worst timeline

>>81171941
>It's basically just people sitting round name dropping philosophers and philosophical quotes
They don't mention any philosophers or quote any either in first movie, they just talk about the line between AI and humanity

>>81172009
I had trouble with his voice not being akio otsuka or richard epcar. Also not getting enough ass to kick. This is ranger motherfucking Batou here.

>>81172034
Oh wait I forgot, at the very end there is one quote

>>81171854
I suspected as much based on his description but this shit just worries me. It's a pretty good sign of an adaptation for no reason whatsoever.

>>81172009
he was a good character and well acted

>>81172010
>being attached via name to something else that people automatically expect a lot out of.

But like 99% of the GITS franchise is complete ass. Arise is fucking awful, Innocence is fucking awful, the original film is just good again a solid 6-7/10, the rest of the films are fucking ass, Arise again it has to be stated is fucking ass, the manga is a comedy action borderline ecchi series that has almost nothing to do with the rest of franchise.

SAC S1 is arguably the only great thing the GITS franchise has ever produced and nobody is comparing it to SAC

>>81171941
Regardless of the execution of the original movies, they at least tried to be deeper than this puddle they put out. Without those themes it isn't GitS, and thats why people are mad.

>>81172009
Literally the only section 9 member with lines

Same as the 1995 movie but dam.

>>81172176
I wanted more Togusa and Saito, but I'm glad they did a good job at establishing the friendship of the Major and Batou.

>>81172210
>Paz
yfw you get casted and left on the cutting room floor while someone whose character didn't even exist got screentime

Anyone else feel like sci-fi is somewhat on a creative valley? Obviously this wasn't going to get many marks for originality but regardless, if you got some recs for shit that's original or somewhat novel conceptually, shoot. Regardless of media.

>>81172158
>ignoring the 2nd gig

The second series was when they hit their stride and knew how to keep every episode exciting, and well paced. The final few episodes of 2nd gig also had much more going on than in S1 with a great pseudo-villain Kuze to carry it.

Besides that you are right. Arise was bad, and the first 2 movies don't seem 'complete' in the sense it felt more like an exploration of themes. Innocence was pure entry level philosophical masturbation.

>>81172280
What redeemed Arise was the movie. No one asked for Arise to be made but at least when they got to the end of it the movie helped tie it together with the rest of the franchise

>>81172210
They did great with the limited time available to them. It sucks that we probably won't get to see this crew handle cases like in the series, because weaboo faggots and SJWs have a deathwish for the movie.

>>81162962
I just watched this today. I went with zero expectations. I have seen the 1994 film, Innocence and Stand Alone Complex. Just that. I don't consider myself a rabid fan of this series, since I am pretty sure there's more to in in the manga and whatever other source material is out there.

Having said that, this was surprisingly good movie on its own. It is a complete history that I could recommend to anyone with absolutely no knowledge of this series and would probably find the story intriguing and entertainment.

As for me I was surprised to see they revealed the origin of the Major, her true family and her identity. I have no idea if this revealed in the original manga since this was not even discussed in the content I've seen. After two animated films and a tv series with no hints, I could not care less if this is different in the source material. Yes, her "naked" body looks kind of odd, but memes aside, I found all the characters enjoyable. As a product this is very good on its own. Not gonna bother comparing it with the source material.

>>81171941
The original GITS film was a lot closer to Shirow's work than this film was. If you didn't like the original, that's your prerogative. But the original anime film is better than this warmed over corpse.

>>81164785
is actually amazing anon, in that climate I expected a 100% from critics too afraid to do otherwise

>>81172335
I kinda do hope we get a sequel, which the movies allowed for. There's a lot more they could do.

>>81172009
Couldn't get used to the accent. What was it, Aussie? But he certainly looked the part.

>>81167333
That cute pupper face omg.

>>81172349
Right now it's getting panned by the majority of both critics and fans but at least it has the China market to help make up for it. Those Chinese financial houses would never let it really fail.

>>81172382
thats what i find sad about everyone pre-shitting on this film, it will probably not get a sequel unless it blows expectations. The budget was pretty high.

>>81172342
>a tv series with no hints
They have an entire episode dedicated to her origin in the series

>>81172342
Her origin was strongly hinted at in SAC: Second GIG. She was the girl in the hospital that young Kuze was folding all the paper cranes for. Injured in a plane crash and forced to choose between full cyberization and permanent disability.

>>81172342
Every reboot is a standalone adaptation they aren't canonicaly connected

>>81171988
It's on, bitch.

>>81167132
>Weebs praise this as a master piece.

>>81172436
Wow. Then I saw it when it aired after so many years ago that I don't remember that episode. To have this exposed in one episode to never be discussed again says much.

>>81172342
What I find weird is that the only time you see ScarJo's actual naked ass is when she's undressing from the scuba diving suit.

>>81172473
Second GIG means second season? Then I just saw the first one.

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>>81164960
>30 seconds in
>black character
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>>81164960
Is this seriously the pinnacle of Japanese anime?