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Just saw this. Pretty good flick. Not seeing the uber-emotional

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Just saw this. Pretty good flick. Not seeing the uber-emotional dramatic masterpiece people have been shilling about though.
>Prof. X death scene is so hurried into massive action scene that there was no time to give the shock a time to breath, and it lost some of the sadness that it was probably going for because of it.
>All sad death scenes are in general are undermined by the sheer amount of visceral gore. Caught myself going more "ew gross" than "aww thats sad"
>probably still wouldn't think they are all that sad because all the characters are so fucking miserable they might as well all die to escape the misery
>final boss fight = evil clone is epitome of schlock right next to final boss fight = giant robot samurai, but i mostly give this a pass because the x-men movies are built around schlock so it seems a fitting end.
>giving x-23 adamantium bones means the bad guys designed her to be a permanent loli.

overall 7/10
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>>81061388
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Oh and anyone who thinks this has a ton of anti-trump undertones is a fucking spastic.
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Was that woman at the beginning funeral in black getting into the car Jean Grey?
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>>81061388
>giving x-23 adamantium bones means the bad guys designed her to be a permanent loli.
Yeah her claws are too small.. so does that mean she will never grow or what?
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>>81062191
That means they could reboot xmen with a future 29 year old Laura portrayed by Dafne Keeno.

Sounds good to me
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>>81062191
>>81062331
Only Laura's claws are metal
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>>81062191
>>81061388
she only gets claw implants, the cell phone video in the movie they show it, they have her arms sliced open, just like in the comics

she'll have less poisoning than logan and will live longer, and if she wanted to in the future, completely remove the claws
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>>81062387

it's a meme, just ignore it from now on.
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>>81062407
the claws are gonna be smaller than if they allowed her to grow up before plating them with adamantium and therefor less potent as a killing machine. Not very forward thinking for a bunch of scientists devoted to creating a super soldier.

they gained really very little in the overall plot by having the adamantium claws. the only thing it added was a scene of her brutal surgery that made the child experimentation scenes more gory and maybe a touch more impactful. Pretty shallow addition considering the sacrifice in logic that it requires.
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>>81062692
not really, considering that wolverine is one of the greatest killers in their established history

> can't be killed except drowning
> can heal from almost everything
> claws are indestructible, no armor or wall can protect you from being assassinated
> expert tracking/heightened senses
> now clone him but gender flip it. female spies/assassins can get even more shit done due to honeypot tactics

pretty good idea family
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>>81062983
That's all well and good but it doesn't refute my point that blowing their load too early on the metal claws isn't very forward thinking.

Logan was super effective as a soldier when he was rocking bone claws so if the point is to have them combat ready before being fully grown they could still stick with bone until then and really lose very little.
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>>81061388
>flick
fuck you nigger
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>>81061388
>Caught myself going more "ew gross" than "aww thats sad"

What a cuck.
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>>81063182
Apologies for my transgression, of course I meant 'kino'
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>>81063220
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch?
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>>81063130
>>81062692

X-23 was basically the template/dry run used to create X-24, cloning the cells, bonding adamantium to bone etc, same for the other kids, they're just experiments to work out the kinks
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>>81063130
they give her metal claws earlier, because they think they can control her, so they want to maximize her killing potential. because nobody would suspect a little 10 year old girl

wolverine is effective with his bone claws but that's because he had decades of experience fighting in dozens of wars. if he had metal claws earlier, you bet your ass he'd be a more efficient killer

they wanted to start early with her just like in the comics, which the movie did adapt pretty well in spirit
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>>81063261
A cuck. You're a cuck, cuck.
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>>81061506
Didn't they save a bunch of diverse kids by getting them over the border?
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>>81061388
I hear you, and I can see where you're coming from, -but-, isn't that how death happens in real life? It's not like you feel the full force of the grief in the moment, it doesn't hit you all at once - you might not even register what it -means- until later. I thought all the emotion and sadness came later, in the burial scene.
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>>81063270
>X-23 was basically the template/dry run
I can dig this, but it seemed more like they were going for long term success with her because their only issue was lack of 'control' as >>81063275 says. so they canned the project and did the logan clone project instead.

>>81063275
>nobody would suspect a little 10 year old girl
Bone claws wouldn't have made her any more conspicuous.

>if he had metal claws earlier, you bet your ass he'd be a more efficient killer
Maybe marginally, sure, but I've always thought of the adamantium being a bonus to indestructibility moreso than killing potential. And honestly, based off of her acrobatic skills she's plenty lethal as is and probably moreso than wolverine was back in the day with his bone claws.

So again I really don't think it was worth it for them to put the adamantium claws on her so early. Adherence to the comics I can respect but it doesn't make it less silly to me.
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>>81063409
Yeah and the very first fucking scene is logan killing the everloving fuck out of a bunch of spics who were trying to steal his rims. Or should i say bad hombres.
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>>81063539
Sure. But I never felt it. By then i was numbed or perhaps distracted. Not quite sure. Certainly felt worse about the black farmer family than the professor.
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>>81063633
it's definitely about the indestructibility more than the killing with wolverine

wolverine gets the metal only because his healing allows him to survive the process. the claws are an added bonus. because even if you didn't have claws, having an indestructible skeleton of a man who can heal is a huge tactical advantage. simple punches from wolverine could be killing blows

with x-23, they realized they didn't need the skeleton afterall because of the claws, since the healing is definitely slowed down by the metal poisoning, constantly keeping it check. she should heal faster than wolverine
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>generic mercenary team of bad guys
>"nobody remembers us mutants any more"
>generic mad scientist
>"they're doing bad stuff to the kids"
>"i don't want to get involved"
>"but [some mexican kid cloned out of your cells] is your daughter, you need to get involved"
>cloned antagonist
>"oh what have I done, the horror"
>super talented prepubescent mutant kids surviving in the wild, building shit, waiting for immunity 14 km away from the Canadian border
>"I'm gonna protect them [against this generic clone of me that wears all black]"
>boo-hoo, sad deaths

This shit was such a 5 to 7 out of 10 I don't get what kind of goggles the Marvel capetards have on them.
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People who love shit like this are immensely retarded. The movie was so boring they couldn't help to pick up these random pieces of dry humor and laugh the fuck out of them. Like, in my theater, they were laughing out loud in the middle of a highly dramatic scene simply due to some crappy quip or some stupid shit (like Charles saying "fuck"), utterly unable to read the mood of the scene.
>Oh hahaha, it's all gritty and sad but Charles said "fucking fuck, gotta give it to them writers".
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>>81064108
agreed. I thought it was fun though. I didn't go into it expecting some masterpiece. Just another schlocky xmen movie. Got what I expected with the added benefit of fun hardcore violence thats unusual for these types of films.
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>>81063261
He called you a girly man.
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>>81066101
I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals.
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>>81061388
I'm not sure the little girl had an adamantium skeleton. I think they only gave her the claws. I don't really remember though because the movie wasn't that good.
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>>81063683
wasnt the initial theme that logan was kinda of a bad guy, killing mexicans and saying fuck off to the mexican lady? That it was coding him as this post apocalyptic mess of a fuckup instead of a hero?
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>>81064108
the military after kids obligatory big action piece (and clone in black) was pretty shitty considering the nicer parts were a bit more intimate and should be resolved at that level.

also why is Logan even necessary? the girl drives all the way there.
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>>81066266
>wasnt the initial theme that logan was kinda of a bad guy
no, just a miserable fuck. Meanwhile those spics were stupid evil fucks.

This movie is not very political unless you are an oversensitive frog posting retard. Take this from a Trump voter.
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>>81066487
its showing him as blatantly selfish and ruthless sad fuck tho, ready to leave the little mexican girl by herself at the compound etc

they just fucked it up by making him selfless regarding charles at the same time
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>>81061388
>Prof. X death scene is so hurried into massive action scene that there was no time to give the shock a time to breath, and it lost some of the sadness that it was probably going for because of it.
But it did have an afterward scene about him officially realizing the loss.

>All sad death scenes are in general are undermined by the sheer amount of visceral gore. Caught myself going more "ew gross" than "aww thats sad"
'R' Movies are 17+, and It's a movie about 2 people with metal fucking claws.

>probably still wouldn't think they are all that sad because all the characters are so fucking miserable they might as well all die to escape the misery
It's part of the setting of the film and it's what it revolves around

>final boss fight = evil clone is epitome of schlock right next to final boss fight = giant robot samurai, but i mostly give this a pass because the x-men movies are built around schlock so it seems a fitting end.
You didn't understand the meaning of the clone.

>giving x-23 adamantium bones means the bad guys designed her to be a permanent loli.
see>>81062407
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>>81066834
>You didn't understand the meaning of the clone
it wasn't 2deep4me if thats what you're worried about. Still a schlocky trope regardless of the deeper meaning.
>see>>81062407
see >>81062692
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Is this a good movie to take a 10 year old girl to? Asking for a friend.
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>>81061388
MIRA LO!
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>>81061388
nice spoilers you got there senpai
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>>81067826
movies been out for a month, cupcake.
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>>81067912
>I know, I'll make sure any plot spoilers are visible, page one, fuck everyone else
that's you, that's what you sound like
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>>81067983
Did it ruin your day?
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If you don't understand the movie or think it's bad, chances are you are full blown fucking retarded and should stick to the kino that is "Martha" and "stop, my invincible son" tier shit gobbling
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https://youtu.be/XewoRDvsSbY
Lol
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>>81069292
>if you don't like marvel movies you are automatically a DCuck.

/tv/ was a mistake.
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>>81069767
No, it's not a marvel vs Dc thing. It's people being so spoiled that if the movie doesn't spoofeed them they go ape shit.

/tv/ wasn't the mistake, these people's father's not using a condom was.
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Soooo does it ever say why Logan would rather be a poor jackass driving an Uber than just asking that slant bitch for a job since she was on his cock the entire movie?
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>>81070061
>He thinks Logan was a deep film
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Is this the keeno thread?
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>>81070133
It was deeper than the Cape shit most of you praise as kino.
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>>81070133
Also, not saying logan was a deep movie, but it's clear it's too deep for most tv users because they can't understand plot basics.
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(((mangold)))
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>>81070251
>slashy slashy
>oh look beaner girl
>slashy slashy
>oh bald man died that got exploded by Phoenix but came back lol
>slashy slashy
>end
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>>81070133
Proof it was
https://youtu.be/XewoRDvsSbY
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Reminder that they brown washed this movie. Why would they have Logan's clone played by a fucking mexican?
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>>81070350
She's half.
In the movie and in real life.
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>>81070423
Not only that, but it's EXACTLY how it was in the comics too. Even more proof the DC fan base is so retarded it's a miracle they could even read comics to begin with.
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>>81070299
And yet you have DC cucks in here going

>I DON'T GET IT, WHY DOES SHE HAVE CLAWS... AND X24 WAS DUMB, CLONES AREN'T REAL LOL
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Can someone explain to me why xmen actors are cucked homosexuals while DC actors are chiseled chads?
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>>81070606
literally nobody has said any of that. stop being a fag.
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>>81070350
Because it's 2017 and white people are evil and racist. Get with the times anon.
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>>81070678
>why xmen actors
Fucking dummy dum head
MARVEL ACTORS KEK CLUCK FUCK
https://youtu.be/XewoRDvsSbY
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>>81070678
So why exactly hasn't the left devoured him after this photo? The transphobic message is clear.
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>>81070761
it's from blunt talk, dingus
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>>81070799
Shut the fuck uppus cuckus
https://youtu.be/XewoRDvsSbY
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>>81070713
>>81070838
>>81070303
>>81069717
stop shilling your video
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>>81064108

>"nobody remembers us mutants any more"

Weren't they still talking about them on the radio? And that one doctor who sperged out over meeting one?
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>>81070885
It's not the same person I only did it once.
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>>81070838
it's okay, just admit you got triggered for no reason
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There's a distinct lack of testosterone on the xmen cast.
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>>81070350
She's half Spaniard half English irl.
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>>81070350
I think I remember someone saying she was predominantly gypsy IRL.
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What was the point in giving wolverine poisonous metal bones in the first place?
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>>81071826
To see if they could.
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>>81070217
It was better than most capeshit but it was still a 7/10 at best. Definitely not worth the ridiculous praise it has been getting.
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>>81071036
>half Spaniard
that explains why she isn't hideous
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>>81070423
>>81071036
>>81071596
I already knew this. I was just looking for those sweet sweet (You)s. Thanks.
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Poor Caliban
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>>81061388
>final boss fight = evil clone is epitome of schlock right next to final boss fight = giant robot samurai, but i mostly give this a pass because the x-men movies are built around schlock so it seems a fitting end.
>thinking it's a boss fight instead of a climax
>thinking it was a fight at all when Logan was just being murdered by X-24
>not picking up on the pottery of Logan now being subjected to all the EXACT pain, misery, helplessness, and mortality that he had imposed on hundreds of others over his life in the exact same way when a running theme of the movie was Logan's guilt over killing so many people so brutally
>literally having his own sins inflicted upon him before death

Your views on movies are shit but then I also thought the movie had jumped the shark with the literal Wolverine clone when it was first introduced.
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>>81074511
That is all very obvious and its really not as deep as you think it is.
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So when are we getting an x-23 movie? Has (((Mangold))) said anything about it yet or is she just gonna be thrown into deadpool?
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>>81074574
>didn't say it's deep anywhere

Nice reading lol fag

And yet OP didn't get it.
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Dafne Keen is a qt and wish her success in the future
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>>81074740
She has another movie coming out next year. Pretty cool.
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>>81074771
That's awesome. I hope he uses her real accent :3
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>>81074813
https://youtu.be/XewoRDvsSbY
basically the movie
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>>81074813
It's a Puerto Rican independent film. I expect more rapid fire spanish.
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>>81074879
Quit shilling your video fatass
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>>81074622
I am OP. I got it. Not a big deal.
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>>81075082
It just negates the point haha
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>>81074611
He said he'd love to do another movie with her, and keen herself said that she wanted to continue acting, but it's all too early to tell
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>>81061388
the ending made me teary eyed, other than that it wasnt super emotional
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>>81075367
That's cool. I liked her character even more than Hugh's in this movie since he's done just about everything that can be done with the Wolverine. I'm glad that it might be passed on to her.

If they recast Wolverine, I'll be finished with Fox.
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>>81061388

Is Hugh Jackman gay$$$$

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3zU2IcVzbc
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>>81076004
Kek. I knew what it would be before I clicked. I personally believe that the guy's an assbandit but I don't really have much proof the substantiate that opinion.
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James Mangold confirmed the kikery. All your suspicions were correct.
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>>81076903
It's okay. Based Hugh knows the truth.
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>>81076903
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>>81061388
>Not seeing the uber-emotional dramatic masterpiece people have been shilling about though.

Of course not, you've been memed.
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>>81077054
>>81077082
You know he wouldn't be caught dead near the trump family now though. That might sink his career.
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https://youtu.be/9i83eIOcnec
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>>81061388
In a way I have to agree with some parts here.
Logans death nad no emotional connection with me. But death of prof X was cool, it happend so unexpected, after that comfy dinner scene.
Yes they are miserable, but at the end all of them want to escape misery, that is why you dont want them to die.
Is it good as /tv/ claims to be? Yes.
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> Not seeing the uber-emotional dramatic masterpiece people have been shilling about though.

to americans used to watch macho mans playing superheroes in latex costumes it probably is
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>>81063633

Isn't adamantium also just a bonus 'can slice anything'? Bone alone isn't going to rip part a car or metal door. It's just a perfect storm of combos, high regen close combat fighting with augmentations that make it even more efficient.
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>>81061388

It was okay, not the greatest thing ever.

I like it as a finale for two actors in their roles. They took things a little more tot he logical extreme, Logan's trying his best to be a loaner and keep away from shit, but gets involved anyway.

Making Charles old and decrepit was an odd choice, but if he was whole the movie would be cake walk in terms of combat.

This winds up having me FAR more interested in what the fuck happened to reach this point.
>poison water, no more mutants
>did they all just up and die simultaneously one day? what about other healing factor mutants? many would have been outside the US, so poisoning them would be hard

The world constructed leaves massive holes they need to fill. I care less about them dying, than the world they inhabit (because it's not the first time for the characters, but we won't see these actors again) so much of the emotion is lost.

I just want to know how all this went down and what the fuck happened between DofP waking up scene 2000? (everyone's alive) and the fragment of weapon X during apoc.

It feels too manufactured, this is the finale and the new kids they got for Apoc/DofP are what we'll have for 10~ years to fill in the gaps.

tl;dr I liked it, 7/10.
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>>81070893

The movie can't happen with a large scale mutant cast. Too many of their powers make the conflict against guns a joke. Gotta kill everyone off if you want this to be a Hugh and Picard movie.
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>>81062142
It was just someone he was driving for.
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>>81061388
I thought Xavier's death was handled well. Logan is hit fully by it when their vehicle gets fucked and he snaps (the people in my theatre laughed which was odd because it's such a heavy scene) and I thought that was a picture perfect representation of despair. Unable to do absolutely anything about the 100% uphill struggle he's been dragged through the movie.

Not 100% sure why Logan couldn't out-regen the Adamantium poisoning considering he shielded some dude from a nuclear fucking bomb AND regenerated faster than he was being disintegrated by that girl in x2 (forget her name)
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>>81061388
>unironically liking this kindergarden crap movie
I thought /tv/ is better than this. Fucking awful movie with annoying kids and a stupid plot. Did anyone over the age of 12 actually enjoy this shit movie?
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>>81080982
You don't have to act too cool for school on an anonymous image board.
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>>81081102
I am just wondering why you are normally acting so elitist and this piece of shit of a movie gets praised
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>>81075651
I liked her character whenever she didn't speak. There were so many cool moments when she was still mute, when she angrily took her bag back from Logan, when she aggressively shucked it off, getting mad at the pony ride. I really, really enjoyed how much aggression she conveyed. But then she started screeching and it sorta ruined it a bit.
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>>81081155
I usually wouldn't consider myself too elitist when it comes to movies. Hell I actually enjoyed some of the earlier transformer movies and hated The Godfather. I'm pretty sure that makes me a dreg on this site. I liked Logan a lot. I didn't enjoy it though. It made me feel like shit because I've always wanted children but I'm afraid I might be infertile. I guess that's how I judge movies. I put a lot of value on a movie that can create such a profound emotional effect in my life. I respect your opinion though.
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If Logan claws come from inside of skin how come they are never covered entirely in blood but shiny and clean metal looking?

I never understood this. Is it just a meme or is there any explanation?
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>>81080982
>I thought /tv/ is better than this
The contrarians will come in full force by the time the blu ray rip comes out, just you wait and see. It's the /tv/ cycle.
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>>81081449
I know what you mean, some movies depress me because of various reasons or make me overthink my whole life and mindset, Arrival for example did that for me just because of the daughter...I still think Logan is pretty shitty and I normally enjoy mindless action for what it is
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>>81081518
If you took a knife and stabbed yourself with it, the knife would keep you from bleeding fairly well, its only after you pull the knife out does the blood really start to well out. Same principle I imagine. Plus the claws are a natural part of his body, so it's probably housed in some kind of sheathe and the only part it actually cuts through is his skin and not all his muscle or veins, tendons or anything which would minimize the bloody-ness of every SNIKT.
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>>81081404
Yeah her dialogue left a lot to be desired. The fake mexican accent wasn't very good either. I hope the spaniard and british accent doesn't hinder her career because she's more expressive than any young actor I've ever seen.
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>>81074511
>massacres random mexicans for waking him up
>tells his cripple friend to dump the one guy that is sure to cause inmeasurable amount of grief on them instead of slicing his throat on the spot

The plot armor on that orange fuck really pissed me off throughout the movie.
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>>81082022
To be fair, the mexicans were in the process of shooting and stabbing him.
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>>81082237
Yeah, I get that. But he absolutely knew that the orange fuck was going to be loads more trouble.
It was retarded that he spared him.
I don't mind him surviving, just make it more believable. Him surviving the double granade allahackbaring was even worse.
Fucker had a better healing factor than Wolverine.
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>>81082325
I wish the pipe Laura threw would have killed him. Then again, the way the movie introduced us to her brutality was perfect in my opinion. It seemed badass without being cheesy like the kids at the end.
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>>81082325
It may have been retarded but Logan isn't the Punisher, he's got more qualms about killing, especially killing defenseless unconscious people in cold blood.
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>>81082591
You mean like the people that got frozen by Charles in the hotel?
Current Logan knew far better that he would not have the luxury of playing moral hero. There was no way around killing that fucker sooner or later. Iit was just stupid writing that he wasn't killed on the spot.
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>>81082725
Pierce hadn't really tried anything at the start to piss him off, by then he and his boys had tried something and were officially on Logans OK to kill list.
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>>81082806
This is reaching.
He was very much aware what kind of trouble him and that company would be, with them being known mutant hunters and him figuring out that Charles was there as well.
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>>81082875
>hem being known mutant hunters
OK its been a while since I saw the movie but when was that established? They were company security people. Their job was to keep the mutants at the company lab secure but not actually go around hunting the last mutants left alive on Earth down.
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>>81083008
Wolverine instantly recognizes the company name. I'm not sure if from the name card or from the mexican nurse and then later (been 2 weeks since I saw too) Pierce when torturing or the Doctor in the truck talks to Caliban about him helping them before to track the mutants.
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>>81083160
Logan might have known them from their genetic fuckery but I doubt they were very public about tracking mutants and murdering them.
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>>81084534
The world they lived in saw all the X-men die. I.E. There are no more guns (heroes) in the valley (world).

The corporation still has to abide by some semblance of "law," but at the end of the day Logan's world is the world where "bad" guys won, though Logan would argue there really never were good/bad guys to begin with.
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Logan is really just another exercise in violence featuring Logan's adamantium claws - a trait shared with teenage Laura in overblown action scenes that recall the sickeningly sadistic kiddie assassin movie Kick-Ass.
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>>81085981
Is that really what the quote means? Fuck that's depressing. I love this movie but it makes me feel like absolute shit.
>>81086059
Based Almond
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>>81086096
The writing in this movie was very impressive for a super hero movie, and I'm pretty sure that's what Mangold meant with this line in particular. He was pretty thoughtful when it came to the script, and even his use of outside material fit the tone he was going for. My only gripe with the movie (besides none of the kids being killed at end, but it's reasonable avoiding NC-17 rating) was that they didn't develop the Grim Reavers motives more. I wish he had made the logic behind their actions more of a grey area, allowing Rice to be the "defacto" bad guy from the shadows (however, his logic also could have made him not a "bad" guy). Basically, the bad guys somewhat betrayed logic of film, which was there aren't really bad guys, just people placed into bad situations.

All the way down it was written as a tragedy, with a lot of it following Joseph Campbell archetypical behavior, which I found rather interesting, because most superhero movies have very shallow themes/developments, with very unrealistic stakes being involved. The movie was very effective as a redemption story, but tragic, because the hero never gets to capitalize on his return from the depths of hell and the new found knowledge he has gained. Part of me wonders if the "don't be what they made you..." line will end up setting Laura up for a lot of mental gymnastics, because now she will be reluctant to fight for/defend herself, and could set her up to be taken advantage of and abused.

Most criticisms of the movie can be defended/debated well, with most gripes coming down to the kids at the end, and the way a lot of things seemed rush. For me, I find a lot of context in the movie can developed just by thinking about the setting/situation (requires a second watch), and most of my gripes the first time around were gone the second time. Unfortunate that there wasn't a previous film showing the downfall. I noticed a lot of people don't want to think about it, and wanted it to be self-contained.
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>>81086765
>Most criticisms of the movie can be defended/debated well
Gabriella/iPhone voice over exposition.
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>>81086832
Keyword "most." Honestly though, pretty hard to get around showing how Laura's character was abused/mistreated without something like this. Maybe they could have rewritten her with some forms of PTSD, and shown her having actual nightmares, but I think in this situation showing it explicitly, though corny, made it work alright.

That moment really just helped the viewer sit back and see how shit everything was, and to help process the setting of the film. Even with this, it seemed rushed, but like I said they really needed a previous film that culminated with Xavier killing all the X-men.
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>>81081518

Forget the blood, how do they even fit inside him? Look at the length of them, they're 2-3x longer than his hand is, meaning that when they're retracted they'd have to go into his forearm.

Wouldn't that mean he couldn't bend his wrists?
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>>81086958
Maybe the movie should have had Laura and the nurse the main character at the start, showing us what was happening inside that building/hospital, and then having them escape and find Wolverine.
It would have cemented the fact that while some of the X-men are still alive, they're on the run, hiding, defeated, and finding them is hard.
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>>81086832
>If you are watching this it means I'm already dead
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>>81086765
Damn, did you write this? I agree completely. I never even considered that they could use the words "don't be what they made you" as a callback in a movie with Laura. Even so, I figure they'll just forget about it and waste the opportunity unless Mangold comes back like he was saying he might.
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>>81070217
see>>81069767
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>>81087056
They most likely retract past his wrist and all the way up into the forearm.
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>>81087058
Yeah I was just thinking about that, though it would have interrupted tone of film a bit (centered around Logan).

It might have been better if Mangold went with his initial intentions, and just removed the explicit recollection from Gabriella (he didn't want film to be preachy), and had it just be the footage of the children being mistreated, and allowed for the viewers to come to their own conclusions (though, if you look, people are confused about the simplest shit with the movie). Gabriella could have simply told Logan at the end that this girl is his biological daughter, and she was made to be a weapon just like him. Even better, have Laura wake up during video, and watch it with Logan, having her explain what it was like.
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>>81076073

Are you sure$

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyVADkWuJnE

His gay performance is sooooooooo fabolous.
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>>81087307
Yeah i forgot to say that IMO, that scene should be the intro of the movie, instead of Logan clawing some Mexicans.
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>>81087362
Yeah that's what I'm saying. He's too good at being a fag. But he can fall back on that he was "just acting". I don't buy it though. The guy is gay for sure.
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>>81087410
Well said, I think you're right, the transitions would have to be switched up a bit at beginning, but it would have worked a lot better.

It also would have helped establish that Logan was reluctant to kill people, which the Mexican killing scene completely obliterated in the first minute of the movie. I was somewhat 50/50 on whether Logan was truly reluctant to fight/kill, because he was just old, or if it was a personal decision.
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>>81087591

You right.
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>>81067716
UNA CHOOCHOO
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>>81076004
lel
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Did this little faggot piss anyone else off? Whoever came up with his appearance needs a beating.
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>>81089375
that kid actually looks like that. you are being mean.
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>>81061506
They literally have the xmen replaced by mexicans.
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>>81089261
>3 claws
Why? Did they shoot that scene before the script was done?
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>>81089753
Bullshit
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>hollywood script
>only good heartland hick farmer is black
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>>81089261

QUESALUPA!
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>>81089863
She was just messing around with Huge Jackedman's props
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What did they mean by this?
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What do you think lads, is she pulling a Chloe Moretz?
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>>81070678
Because faggots.
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>>81090386
He's such a degenerate. He'd probably love black dick in his ass.
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>>81090207
Just (((Mangold))) at it again.
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