Modern capeshit will never have a scene as brilliant as this

>>81057371
What was the arms fucking problem?!

Sorry dude, I don't see anything special about this scene. It's quite boring to be honest...

>>81057529
Hi mouseketeer. I can tell you're fuming that nothing will surpass based Raimi

>>81057471
each arm signifies a gas chamber from ww2.

>>81057371
raimi Spider-Man is the greatest capeshit of all time

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>>81057371
I forgot how much comic accurate these movies were. This scene is straight outta Ultimate Spider-Man

>>81057570

I don't care about Raimi at all

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matrix robot tentacle rippoffs, pleese

>>81057371
this scene fucking terrified me when i was 10 remember it giving me a panic attack, i avoided watching it for so long because i was afraid of it happening again

spider-man 2 is still peak capekino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL8hVXSDmNM

>>81057636
the great thing is that it perfectly captures the tone and themes and feeling of most spidey comics without adapting any specific story. this is how you do comic books in live action, folks.

>>81057709
Spider-Man 1 is better

>>81057371

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

>>81057758
goblin is too shit of a villain
also becoming spider-man isnt as compelling a stroy and struggling to be spider-man

and the action scenes are much better

>>81057624
*Capekino

>>81057709
Where's the part where he witnesses 9/11 ?

>>81057767
What's the matter, friend

elaborate, don't choke

is this really what 90s kids think passes as cinema?

LMAO

What's with the lack of cuts? Needs more cuts to convey the horror of what's happening.

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I heard that Raimi wanted the arms to turn into helicopter blades and decapitate the doctors. Why did he want to do that? What was he trying to say?

This whole scene is clearly Raimi paying homage to himself, even down to the inclusion of a chainsaw and "The Force" POV shot.

It's masturbatory bullshit, and you're stupid for liking it. Or, really, liking anything about Raimi's Spider-Man series. It was good for its time but all the love it gets on /tv/ is just nostalgic bullshit from people who were too young to know better at the time.

>>81057709
Also the ending from 2 its great, how the wedding is a no go, JJ saving the food like the jew he is, and MJ reunites with the tiger

>>81058030
>This whole scene is clearly Raimi paying homage to himself, even down to the inclusion of a chainsaw and "The Force" POV shot.

Everybody knows that you tardo, doesn't change the fact that it's miles above modern capeshit

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>>81057788
>goblin is too shit of a villain

>>81058030
I bet you enjoy the MCU movies.

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how could raimi get away with this?

>>81057371
Wow jontron took the reaction to his politics a lot worse than I expected.

>>81057371
Literally everything in Batman v Superman surpasses this crap

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>>81058251

>>81058251
nice bait

>>81057709
Only Man Of Steel compares to spiderman 2

A spider the size of a tangerine

>>81058326
An octopus the size of a ruby

I didnt love this scene or Spiderman 2 really. I think 1 is the better of the 3. As for what i dont like about this scene, its just so cheesy. Not in any good way either, it makes me cringe and sometimes I laugh, but only AT the scene.

But, I will say this, it is very distinct and Raimi's style oozes from this scene. Its a well done scene as far as technique goes but..i dunno i just cant enjoy it.

>Raimi Spiderman
>Hellboy
>Mystery Men
>Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
These are the only true /tv/ approved capekino. The rest of it can all fuck off back to /co/.

>>81058490
I forgot how kino Hellboy was. I'd argue Logan may be added, the majority of people seem to like it

>>81058522
>everyone likes it so i can't like it

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>>81057371
> tfw all capeshit is now made by a committee and follows the basic formula to make a quick buck
> tfw we will never get a movie with so much heart like Raimi's trilogy again

>>81057812
>Where's the part where he witnesses 9/11 ?
THIS, makes me kek hard

>>81057788
Im not that anon but i agree that 1 is the better spidey film.

Ive said i before but while 2 has a lot of great stuff in it, theres so much in it thats just cringey. Like the girls running into the screen, that black girl saying "izz webbbb", the raindrops scene.

There was more action and that was really enjoyable, i cant deny that

>>81057914
he hated gooks

>>81058640
Snyder is trying to bring back real, emotional capeshit with the DCEU.

>>81058628
try reading that again retard

>>81057371
I've seen this film over 200 times and it still looks fucking good to me.

Sam Raimi was a true fan of Spider-Man and produced two of the most amazing comic books films ever. The humanity. The horror. That this scene has no score for 90 seconds. The control of the arms.

That they actually built those arms is still incredible to me.

There was so much to love in this film. So much.

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>>81058640
superhero movies died with the birth of the MCU

>>81058490
mystery men is fucking garbage

kill yourself

>>81058739
Yea thats why MoS 2 went from featuring batman to full on BvS

Snyder is such an artist with so much integrity, there's no way WB studio execs had a hand in that decision

>>81058818
t.reddit

>>81058818
>>81058846
Can confirm. Mystery Men is a bad stoner film.

>>81058836
Well it paid off, BvS is one of the greatest capeshit of all time, after Man of Steel.

>>81058846
jesus christ how delusional can one person be just to keep the nostalgia going

the movie is reddit, unfunny tryhard trash that also isn't entertaining at all

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The thing with the Raimi spiderman movies were they were exactly that, MOVIES.

All the MCU shit are just bridges for the next movie, for the next teamup movie. That is why Guardians was loved so much, since its the one that has some semblance of a movie feel.

>>81059202
Guardians sucked as well.

DUDE MEME OFF BRO YOU AND MEME
DUDE POOP LMAO xD

>>81058994
How does it feel like to always have the shittiest opinion in the room?

>>81059243

there was a poop joke?

>>81059243
You keep spouting that dance off joke, but it had heart, or at least as much heart a MCU movie can have.

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>>81059303
>it had heart

>>81059271
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBqEGo8zOcE

haha upvote reddit style!

>>81058956
>Can confirm.
Thank you for confirming your shit taste.

>>81059250
it's not opinion if it's fact.

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>>81059412
>no argument again except some meme

>>81059303
>it had heart
No it was a stupid gag for cheap laughs, and I liked guardians.

>>81057709
My brother and I used to watch this all the time as kids. Every time Dr Connor points at Peter imitating a gun like that we used to go "BANG!" and laugh our asses off.

I haven't spoken to him in months now though man.

>>81059655
I mean the movie had heart. I called the dance off thing a joke, which is what it is

>>81057709

>We will never get Tobys DorkyAss Peter Parker in the MCU ;_;

>>81058030
>director using his trademarks that appear in all his films
>somehow this is referencing himself

You're a retard

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>>81057371

I advise all Raimi Spidey fans to watch Darkman if you haven't already.

>>81059980
>Raimi tried to lynch a jew someone on-set

The meme was real

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It's jarring seeing a director actually care about their superhero films

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Yeah, but modern capeshit can't get away with things like this.

>>81059980
Seriously what the fuck was Raimi's problem?

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Not really a capemedia, but very good. Gotta watch it again.

>>81059875
Good shit.

>>81058640
>it was the success of raimi's spiderman that spurred corporations to make the soulless cash machine MCU
tragedy

>>81060287
>Bruce sprained his ankle on the set of Evil Dead
>Sam kept poking it with a stick to make it worse
>In Evil Dead 2 Sam was waving those branches that hit Bruce while he's driving at like 60mph
>Put his brother in a monster costume that covered 100% of his body on a roasting film set for weeks (he lost like 30 pounds or something)

He's an irl madman

>>81060131
why does amy pascal
write like
that?

>>81060131
>tfw raimi couldn't save capeshit
he held it off as long as possible, is Snyder our last hope?

>>81057371
honestly that was too fucking dark for a pg 13 movie
holy shit
raimi is actually the absolute mad man

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>>81060131
>Peter Parker is a good guy and deserves to be rescued, your pal, sam

>>81058179
fucking kek
this is a deleted scene?
fucking nice

>>81057371
that scene has all the same direction you see in Army of Darkness and his other campy "horror" films. Works better in a comic book movie, honestly.

>>81059875
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbdeAhpIPhE

>>81057371
the whole Spiderman trilogy is the epitome of capekino. I don't know what happened that they decided to reboot the series but whoever made that decision is the dumbest person on earth.

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>ywn be on the set of evil dead with sam "madman" raimi

>>81060443
they were childhood friends who loved to prank each other. Read Bruce Campbell's "If Chin's Could Kill" for a lot more background on Raimi. It's a hoot.

>>81060741
Oh I know, that greentext probably came off as sadistic but it's literally just guys being dudes

>its a KNB effects have to do a bodycast of linda episode

Sam Raimi commentaries are always 10/10

>So I said to her "Old Lady, I want you to get down there in that cellar..."

>>81060512
it's not too late, from the email amy knew she shit the bed with spider man and their ideas were a laughing stock when the leaks came out, when/if spiderman goes back to sony at the very least sam can give some creative input while having another talented director at the helm with the producers being hands off. Everything from that email to sony letting disney renting the character shows they now have some awareness, just hopefully we don't get stuck with spider-twink

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>>81058640
>Even dark knight rises, as flawed as it is, was by Nolan's design and not corporate mandates

>>81060653
> Sony

>>81057371
This entire scene has a very horror feel to it. Makes sense since it is Rami

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>you will never see raimi's spider man with your dad for the first time ever again

>>81058251
Marthaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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>>81057371
I don't get it OP, where are the laughs? We need to throw some quips in there. Get one of the doctors to say, "You and I remember shop class very differently." after the carnage starts. That ought to lighten it up.

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Notice how the good/interesting capeshit filmmakers come from deeply visual genres (Raimi, Del Toro from horror, Burton and Bird from animation). They also seem to have a genuine love for the material, as it was part of the counter-culture when they grew up.

People like Nolan or Singer who come from solid neo-noir thrillers; while not visionary or creative have at the very least an elegant style of filmmaking and try to tell thematically meaningful stories, treat their characters/universes seriously and the audiences with respect. (Mangold applies as well, comes from classic western)

Most Marvel Studios filmmakers come from bottom-of-the-barrel Apatow-tier comedies or TV sitcoms.

>>81061577
What's the original source for that image?

It looks interesting.

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>>81061631
Stan Lee's How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way

The spiderman movies was pretty good.
>that soundtrack
>the music from 2:48 to 03:00
https://youtu.be/eQe8j92j-Eg?t=166

Mary Jane is shit tier and drags down all three movies.

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>>81061631
>>81061666
This is a picture from Stan Lee’s "How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way". Look at it and ask yourself how would the equivalent "How To Makes Movies the Marvel Way" could look like.

Then ask yourself where the current Kevin Feige-produced MCU titles would be, on the left or on the right? Do they offer visual dynamism, creative and exciting use of the medium's possibilities in order to heighten the experience? Personally, when I look at this picture, I can see exciting formalists and pop artists like Orson Welles, Seijun Suzuki or Sergio Leone belonging on the right, or even to stay strictly in the field of current blockbuster filmmakers, people like George Miller, the Wachowski Sisters or Brad Bird but certainly not Peyton Reed or Jon Favreau, with their flat, uninspired televisual (lack of) style.

In an ideal world, comic book adaptations would be pushing the boundaries of audio-visual storytelling, offering a sense of style and playfulness unique to the medium. For all its juvenile flaws, the medium of handdrawn capeshit actually is its own artform and kept reinventing itself.

When you look at revered classics in cinema history, you see filmmakers with sensibilities that aren't that different from comic book artists. Filmmakers who understand the power of imaginative framing and editing, they played with depth, angles or colors schemes, experimented with montage techniques, sound design or lenses.

There's a reason why most of the formalist cinematic geniuses have taken inspirations from the comic books medium. Sergio Leone loved fumetti; Alain Resnais had the biggest comics collection of Europe in the 60's; Welles loved pulp comics and adapted The Shadow when he was still doing radio, Japanese new wave filmmakers adapted various manga and Seijun Suzuki even directed a Lupin III animated film...

All the great Marvel artists would absolutely agree that the MCU is a bland, soulless sham.

https://youtu.be/ZgrUa-IOf_8?t=145
>dr octopus not being a very bad person after all

>>81057371
Spider-Man 2 is capekino, nothing will come close ever again. Thank you based Raimi, one of the finest shlock auteurs to ever live. Him and Spider-man was a match made in heaven.

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>>81061729
is there a bigger, more assblasted fanbase than dckekolds?

http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/text/soulless%20sham/

WW will be shit

you need night vision goggles to look at the JL trailer

just admit the DCEU is shit. this isn't even about marvel, i love DC, but WB has no idea wtf they're doing

The toby McGuire spiderman movies are the greatest capeshit movies ever made

>>81061962
This. I enjoy superhero movies more when there aren't a million other superheroes running around. That it is only him and a few others.

>>81061257
DELETE THIS

>>81061710
BDH Gwen should have appeared earlier.

>>81057812
underrated post

>>81061577
You just know Nolan has never read a fucking comic book in his life

>>81057371

This is really fucking dark. It fits perfectly.

>>81061674
>spiderman 3
>he puts on his old costume
>this plays

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>>81057788
>goblin is too shit of a villain

>>81060601
It was inlcuded on Spiderman 2.1 which is an extended cut.

Raimi also changed the Indian pizza guy's wingy "GOOOOO" to a more serious "GO" on that cut as well.

>>81061984
>This. I enjoy superhero movies more when there aren't a million other superheroes running around. That it is only him and a few others.
Are you me?

>81061905
This guy gets it. Me personally, I prefer non cinematic universe super hero movies.

>>81061769
>a capeshit film where the hero defeats the villain by stopping the fight, talking to him and appealing to his human nature

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I AM SO HIGH... I CAN FEEL HEAVEN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQzn4a5qHT4

>>81058179
>blinds are on the outside of the windows
What the fuck?

>>81062412
>Raimi also changed the Indian pizza guy's wingy "GOOOOO" to a more serious "GO" on that cut as well.

worse than greedo shooting first desu

>>81062547
Jesus christ, I completely forgot Nickelback was a thing.

>>81061769

>Hang on, Mary Jane!
>Hardcore punches Dr. Oc in the fucking face

The campy approach was perfect.

>>81061080
The Dark Knight Rises is unironically better than most modern capeshit. Cinematic universes were a fucking mistake.

>>81062547
nickleback sucks but everyone sings along to this song during the credits
AND THEY SAY A HERO CAN SAVE US

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfSz0bQzZuM

>this got a pg rating

If this came out now the climax would be Peter fighting a bunch of goblin-bots to stop a giant blue laser in the sky, green goblin would go down in one punch

>>81062967
You forgot to mention that there wouldn't be any blood and Peter's costume wouldn't be torn.

>>81062967
as campy as the actual choreography was, the fight itself actually feels pretty fucking brutal.

>>81063113
It's funny, the Raimi Spider-Man movies have a really corny tone but the fights are more brutal and realistic than modern capeshit fights. It sucks that we'll never see anything like that again in a PG-13 capeshit movie.

Why don't they let Raimi direct a new movie in the MCU?

>>81057812
it was a different time

Obligatory.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT55pvSe9R4

>>81063267
Raimi likes to have creative control over his films and Disney would never ever give him that creative control.

What that fuck was the deal with the inhibitor chip?

Was Doc Ock evil because he was personally driven by loss and failure, or was he evil because of the damaged inhibitor chip and resulting malevolent arms ?

The movie does not make it clear and I've seen it multiple times

>>81063459
Both I guess, the chip/arms obviously had an effect but they probably wouldn't kill off his wife unless it would have an effect on his personality.

>>81063267
The people who run the MCU hate creativity and want all of their films to follow certain formulas. Look at what happened with Edgar Wright and his Ant-Man script. Plus I don't think Raimi would want to deal with the dictators who run the MCU, he was really pissed off when Avi Arad forced him to shove Venom into Spider-Man 3.

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>>81060131

>reading Raimis posts in Mordins voice

>>81063459
The arms took advantage of him, they were like voices in his head. I think the logic is that the arms were specifically designed to create "muh power of the sun", so they pursued that goal above all else. It wasn't really malice, just ends justify the means.

>>81062967
you actually made me check

it was pg-13 not pg

>>81062547
>AND THEY SAY THAT A FUHRER CAN SAVE US

>GAS ALL THE KIKES AWAYYYYYY
Damn I didn't remember Nickelback being so edgy

>>81061905
t. marvelcuck

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>>81061729
>>81064163
Go away, Snydercuck.

>>81060487
She's a woman with the mindset of a teenager who is texting.

>>81062967
green gobling even turns some guys into skeletons
thats fucked up for it rating

>>81064203
The 2 black kids are unironically the least weird out of the bunch

>>81062547
find a more early 2000's video than this

>>81063724
I find so odd that they let Shane Black do Iron Man 3 with his distinctive Shane Black style but got rid of Edgar Wright because they didn't want him to do his thing. Why one is ok and the other not? Just makes me curious about how Waititi is gonna handle Ragnarok

>>81064203
0 oscars

>>81057709
>lecture with 200+ students
>answer some shitty problem
>after class prof finds you on your way
>"heh nice work..."
That's fucking retarded

>>81064748
spider man 2 won best visual effects :^)

>>81064748
I don't like MCU shit, you retard. Raimi and Nolan were the peak of capeshit, everything has gone downhill since they left. Although Logan is good.

>>81064864
Seriously? How the fuck am I just now finding out about this?

>>81064775
Before this peter would often show up late for class or sleep during it. I guess Mr.Connors liked seeing the improvement since he told peter he was in danger of failing earlier.

>>81059782
FUGGG :''''(
why can't we have him as spiderman anymore damn

>>81064775
True plebs dont know the quality of Raimi's spiderman

>>81065012

the ending is pretty kino too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkNxh5RDfv4

>>81057709
>not posting the original

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiJcbPP59r4

>>81058251
fuck off
>>81060553
>>81060607
>>81061156
>>81062380
i'm surprised more people don't immediately recognize this as a horror movie, it even has a bunch of horror staples, the most obvious ones being any frame that has the chain saw

>>81068196
> One short horror scene in a 2 hours long movie filled with makes it a horror movie

>>81058304
pls no

Best score, too

>VINDICATED,

Spider-Man 3 could have been kino if the studio didn't push the symbiote shit in it.

That and THIS IS YOUR UNCLE'S REAL KILLER.

Also, and Harry having amnesia. My eyes did water a bit at the end when he dies.

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Man fuck MCU desu, this was the last thematically meaningful movie they created but fucking comic book nerds hated it because of the mandarin thing, if the whole point of capeshit is to stay away from the source material then the world is better off without capeshit...This movie is fucking underrated,that it makes me fucking angry about modern film-goers, it's like a superhero movie directed by verhoeven
>That whole satirical commentary about american exceptionalism and capatalism
>"war machine" get a patriotic paint job and gets his named changed into "IRON PATRIOT"
>the whole commentary about terrorism is theatre and America's anti-arab sensibilities
It's literally the smartest marvel movie ever, but isnt saying much.BUT IT ACTUALLY FELT LIKE A MOVIE WITH ACTUAL PACING while rest of the MCU flicks feels like cheap thrills.Except for the third act "house party protocol" schlock and some of the extremis subplot, it's a solid fucking movie.

>>81071618
other marvel movies or DC movies when they try to comment on political issues, all they do is a bunch a lipservice and just scratch the surface,we feel like it's meaningful because we go into the theatre with a pre-conceived idea about those concepts, IM3 goes far more deeper with the political elements in a very satirical way even though it doesn't a make "point" but it still does the job.

>>81059489

i hate the MCU but i like the first two iron man movies and i love GOTG. give me your hate.

>>81071618
Still the only good Marvel movie except for Captain America: The First Avenger. Marvel had enough faith in the Iron Man brand and RDJ to let Shane Black do his thing and it actually feels like a movie made by a person and not a committee until the third act where it all kind of falls apart.

>>81060652
I fucking love darkman

>>81061674
Danny elfman has made the best cape scores

>>81062967
You forgot Dunst glorious tits in the rain scene. How the fuck did it get pg-13?

>>81071618
I'll be honest I was one of those fags complaining but seeing all the shit Disney has turned out I actually appreciate im3 more. You're right it actually felt like a real movie. Boy was I wrong.

>>81061769
Wouldn't the water's hydrogen fuel it more?

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>>81057371
>brilliant

Not a single drop of blood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfzjx1A2_PY

>Even Japanesecapeshit will never return to being as Kino as it was in the early 00s

>>81057371
wow the car flipping scene is really bad

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>mfw Spiderman 2 is the greatest superhero movie ever made
It's such a good feeling, it's a tale about sacrifice, dealing with life, maturing as a responsible and stable human being, how you literally cannot and should not blame your failing on the envoirment you live in, as harsh as it might be, is there anything more redpilled than that?

>>81057788
>dissing on my husbando Willem Dafoe

This is the peak of the genre

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIMVrX9CaVw

PORTMAN

WHAT ARE WE GONNA CALL THIS GUY?

>>81069649
I thought all those stories were ok because it's deconstructing Peter

>What if he stopped taking shit instead only giving people shit
>What if suddenly he had to question and confront the very decision why he became Spiderman

I literally cried in the teather during the ending, I think I'm gonna torrent these films, I just love 2 so much

>>81071618
I really liked this and the first Captain American, as they actually felt like fucking movies.

I want comic book nerds to suck a dirty dick, do you seriously take that shit seriously? Fuck off.

>>81073203
pure cinematokinographology, westaboos will never understand

>>81071997
This, it was the best shane black movie since Kiss kiss bang bang, the soundtrack the pulpy mystery thriller feel to it were spot on.The nice guys felt weaker than his other works.

>>81061769
0:05
why did he choose this stuck up pig over qt nerdy Ursula

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvfocydg9Qk

Has modern capeshit ever made you have these feels?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9cm1cEo8SKM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iRJiF1lnGO8