>never heard of this before >see trailer >"oh hey

>>81054838
Lol that book's from 1985 you fucking retard. Go back to school.

>>81054838

I had to read the book for English Lit in high school, its feminist propaganda to the nth degree.
Literally patriarchy is evil the novel

>>81054838
I actually saw the trailer in theater and it was pretty clear on what it was.

>>81054879
>>81054941
Luckily I never had to read it, never even heard of it. Looking into it and finding out it was not only muh patriarchy the novel but also that some states have it as required reading genuinely pissed me off. It's like they're not even trying to hide their bullshit anymore.

>>81054970
lol you okay son? Don't worry, the leftist aren't coming today to take your precious /teevee/ away

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>>81054965

yeah it makes it clear by the end, but the first half of it has nothing even remotely feminist in it. it just looks like some kind of dystopian movie, or maybe even some apocalypse movie since it looks like martial law is going into effect. then it cuts to some guy firing a group of women. weird, but still not blatant. then it cuts to women with signs saying "MY BODY MY RULES" and at that point you're too far gone.

why are whiny poltards not restricted or even remotely regulated?

>>81055059
epic response, you go girl!

>>81055022
No, but it's still jarring as fuck, like chatting with a friend and taking a weird turn.

>"You're writing a book dude? cool what's it about?"
>"well I got this dystopia setting and shit, real 1984-like, right? and it's got some futurisBOY I SURE FUCKING HATE WHITE MEN"

Then you do a doubletake.

>>81054838
>>never heard of this before

That's because 'redpilled' /tv/ is illiterate.

>>81054838
You'll still be able to fap to it.

>>81055095
It's almost like dystopian sci-fi is a vehicle for social commentary on the modern day or something. Really makes you think, huh. Doesn't it? Does it make your brain work? I bet it does. You fucking faggot. I want you dead, NOW.

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>>81054838
The book is a bunch of hysterical feminist whinging, it's set in a dystopian US where le ebil white christian male patriarchy has taken over, blacks were expelled (some dystopia amirite?), women are back in the kitchen and fertile women are tightly controlled commodities (I think humans are going through a children of men style fertility crisis, it was a few years ago when I read it)

Could be fun to pirate and watch for laughs

>>81055199
>FUCK WHITE MALES
>modern social commentary

>>81055022
Of course the leftists are coming because they've been completely neutered by Trump. I can't wait to see your meltdown when Obama gets captured by the US Navy in his hideout in the Caymans and gets brought to trial.

First black President will be the first president to go to jail = top fucking kek. The chimpout threads on /pol/ will be comfy af.

>>81055059
Wtf I'm voting for Hillary in 2024 now.

>>81055538
u wot

>>81055385
The dystopian world came cause the anti-porn people (feminist and religious crowd) created it.

>>81055385
The Wikipedia article on it is hilarious, even for Wikipedia. There's one part where the article itself - not an outside source or a quote from someone - says the book is excellent because it combats the patriarchy.

Wikipedia itself, not someone else, states this as explicit fact.

>>81055199
>It's almost like dystopian sci-fi is a vehicle for social commentary on the modern day or something

Do American liberals sincerely believe the US is on the verge of collapsing into some hyper-evangelical Old Testament dystopia?

>>81056236

Tumblr sincerely believes we've been in a hyper-evangelical Old Testament dystopia embroiled in civil war for the past 100 years.

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>>81054970
>>81055022
>>81055095
>>81055199
>>81055385
>>81056236
I had to read the book in school and even then it was jarring that it's L I T E R A L L Y the Middle East. As in they're describing every bit of a woman's role in a Muslim country, while incessantly harping on how white and Christian the villains are. Like if somebody actually wrote a book about Sharia and then hit search and replace "Mohammed" with "John"

I really need to point this out because author Margaret Atwood is alive and well and, you won't fucking believe it, advocating for Canada to accept more refugees.

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>>81056236
liberals don't even remotely have a monopoly on that sort of partisan-driven post-apocalyptic fiction

>>81056426
meant dystopic*, not post-apocalyptic

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>>81056422
>I'm tired of these sexist, homophobic, patriarchal, anti-Semetic, violent, repressive, illiterate religious nutjobs ruining my country
>what this country really needs is to import a few million Muslims
How the fuck do so many people hold those two views simultaneously

>>81056529
Because evangelical Christians who say mean things about gay people are pure evil and must be eradicated.

Radical Muslims who stone women to death and call for killing every single human being who doesn't follow their belief system are just misunderstood victims of colonialism trying to express their culture.

To a liberal.

the book is kinda interesting just doesnt live up to the hype at all, so that is weird

>>81055538
This is your brain on schizophrenia.

>>81054838
you know, it could be fun if it took a direction like Starship trooper movie adaptation by turning the premise and meaning by 180 degree

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>>81056672
Normally I would consider your post exaggeration, but I was listening to NPR on my way to work this morning and heard some muslim cunt talking about muslims being persecuted in the west. She said that the criticism of "honor killings" is unfair, and that it exists in the white world too, only it's called domestic violence. "Does a beaten woman in America not have honor?" was the gist of her bullshit, ignoring the fact that domestic violence is against the law here and in no way publicly accepted, while honor killing, which is fucking murder, is accepted in some muslim societies.

I was waiting for the host to jump down her throat but he just agreed with her and they went on with the "muslims are jus misunderstood guy" bullshit for the rest of the hour. Sorry for the wall of text, polite sage.

>>81057242
NPR is basically propaganda. They take a very pro-Arab Gulf line. Their coverage of the Syrian Civil War has been disgusting. They also give a lot of cover for the bombing of Yemen as well as Erdogan's chicanery.

>>81057242
>>81057361
NPR is RT on massive amounts of steroids. NPR claims neutrality and independence when they're almost completely owned by corporate shareholders or U.S. government agencies and they spew out nothing but party mantras all the time, all while claiming they're "totally neutral bro!"

>>81057094
A nice thing I did see on Wikipedia was a reviewer who believed the book actually was that: a satire of radical feminism and showing that feminism may ultimately produce a "different kind of misogyny", that being women hating men and looking down on them.

I wonder what that reviewer thinks of now with the third wave at its peak.

>>81057659
>>81057361
>>81057242
Here's my all time-favorite NPR story

http://www.npr.org/2016/08/18/479349760/should-we-be-having-kids-in-the-age-of-climate-change

Basically the average European emits 7 tons of carbon per capita whereas the average Nigerian emits 0.5 tons, so the only way to save the planet is to coerce Europeans to cease all reproduction immediately, then re-colonize the continent with more environmentally friendly refugees.

>>81057842
Fuck being called Orwellian, this shit puts Orwell and 1984 to shame. Reality is always scarier and worse than fiction, they say.

>>81054941
Fellow IB student?

> ITT: /teevee/ implodes because a feminist book is feminist

>>81057842
Even if you ignored any racial aspect and focused purely on math, isn't that reasoning complete bullshit because the minute an African moves to Europe he begins eating a higher protein diet, using motorized transportation, living and working in mechanically heated/cooled buildings and consuming manufactured goods, and therefore his carbon emissions would skyrocket to as high as a European?

>>81057842
Related

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/item/1994debb-53ae-4f8a-8810-026e3dfb6d2c?ns_campaign=bbc-three&ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=Sterilised

>>81054879
first post

>>81054838
Its a standard modern classic, its you're fucking fault for being stupid

>>81054838
Already made into a 1980s movie starring Robert Duvall you dumbfuck

>>81056422
Have you ever considered that muslim take on women is pretty much identical to christian take on women pre-industrialization? Like, biological roles and shit?

>>81056529
Because some people see refugees as totally innocent poor victims of the terrible Assad and ISIS who dindu nuffin (as opposed to you seeing all of them as radical islamists, scheming to introduce sharia law)

>>81058459
You should have thought about that before you were born white you piece of shit.

>>81059246
>Have you ever considered that muslim take on women is pretty much identical to christian take on women pre-industrialization?
Are there a lot of pre-industrial Muslim countries? As far as I know even Afghanistan has cellular coverage and trucking

>>81054838
>>takes an immediate hard left into feminist propaganda

I see you're not at all familiar with the source material, underage anon.

>>81058459
Yeah but modern liberalism is a massive mess of contradictory stances on almost everything
>We need to do something about climate change
>But we can't stop millions of Third Worlders moving into the West because they want to live like Westerners

>>81054838
I liked the book. I won't see the movie because I already see how it can abd will be s propaganda tool.

>>81059942
Those two don't contradict each other though.

>>81059751
What is your point? The religious doctrine of reactionary islam hasn't changed since the invention of wahhabism. However, western countries became less religious and for example, only allowed women to vote after WWI (or even as late as 70s in parts of Switzerland). The reactionary religious societies like Amishes or other ultra-hardcore protestants did not change their views, even after fucking age of internet. Sharia law is not something that is universally followed by all muslims (or even all radicals, as the french terrorists were heavy drinkers), just like cannonic law is not universally followed by all christians.

What I am trying to say, is that you are totally surprised that backwater traditionalist muzzies treat women in the same way as backwater traditionalist christians, where as you can find the same patriarchal domination in most societies that weren't shaken up as much as western world and east asia. Industrialization did not change the role of women outright, but it destroyed the multigenerational household structure.

>>81060205
Even the age of inquisition and witch hunts didn't see nine year old girls being married to adult men or women being stoned to death by the entire community for the crime of being raped

It's amazing that the 21st century Middle East compares so poorly to 13th century Europe

>>81056529
hint: these groups are funded by rich arab dinasties in order to undermine the west.

>>81060508
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jadwiga_of_Poland

Literally a king of Poland married her husband at the age of 12

The stoning part is a orthodox take on Old Testament law that both male and female adulterers should be stoned and I can't be arsed to spend my time looking for cases of married women being killed for fucking a guy.

>>81060769
>Literally a king of Poland married her husband at the age of 12
Which is terrible

And still three years older than Mohammed did

>>81060205
Western countries have always treated women better and given them more rights than Middle Eastern countries, going back to ancient times. pagan Germanics were noted by the Romans to give astonishing amounts of freedom and political power to their women, while the Bronze Age Middle East was about the same for women as it is now. Monotheistic religions don't really explain the difference since the differences began millennia before monotheism became big and have persisted until the present day

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>>81060769
The problem is, these things are still happening right now and mostly important, even if has happened at any point in time killing an women for adultery goes against one of the most basics teachings of christianity, its literally in a passage of the new testament featuring Jesus, which completely supplants whatever the old testament has stated, comparing western christian civilization in anyway to muslim's must be either a demonstration of willful igorance or vile subterfuge.

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>>81060205
>the Amish are just like the Taliban

>>81061075
Yeah, even the terms "chivalrous" and "white knight" evoke an attitude towards women that can be patronizing or a bit chauvinistic but not violently murderous. Medieval Europe viewed women as foolish children to be protected and guided, Islam viewed them as filthy cattle to be traded and slaughtered.

>>81055538
Next level autism

>>81056422
Read it in hs too
You know this roastie has been reduced to writing articles in Costco Magazine now lmao

>>81054838
I read the book years ago and disliked it. It's a really absurd dystopia, kindo of like the feminist equivelen to all the ultra-relgious repbulicans who are terrified of america becoming a godless society when the liberals take over.

I guess you could get a kick out of it, if you think of it as 'this is what feminists actually believe' type deal, like God's Not Dead or somthing.

>>81061139
I always have to question that bit about "shariah law should rule." As that's kind of a question no one who considers themselves muslim would be comfortable saying "no" to. It's on the same level as asking "do you believe your religion is right?"

>>81061424
And that's the fucking problem that you'd able to see if you weren't so hellbent on defending them, the most basic tenets of their religion, exactly what creates their identity as a people is completely opposed to a modern civilized society unlike christianity.

>>81054879
>feminism and leftism didn't exist in 1985

>>81054838
I don't even remember if this was one of the books I pretended to read in highschool all the way through or if I actually did read a large majority of it. Can't remember if I was a Junior or Senior either.

>>81060205
How many acid attacks, honour-killings, and child marriages occur in Amish communities?

>>81061240
>the Amish are just like the Taliban
He didn't say that anon. You're attacking strawmen again.

>>81060205
>cannonic law is not universally followed by all christians

Except that even if they did we would just have less porn and sex out of wedlock I guess? Meanwhile the Muslim's version is all about pillage and conquer.

>backwater traditionalist muzzies treat women in the same way as backwater traditionalist christians

This is an straight up lie, while the traditionalist treatment of women leaves a lot to be desired it doesn't hold a candle to the barbaric behaviour of fundamentalist muslims communities.

>>81054838
>feminist propaganda

When did everything become "propaganda"?

It's just a book.

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>>81060205
>backwater traditionalist muzzies treat women in the same way as backwater traditionalist christians

How many women are stoned to death by the Amish?

Your false equivalency is literally making light of widespread murder. I suggest you watch just one of the many stonings they film that end up on sites like liveleak. Stop your fucking sophistry for one moment and try to understand the reality of what you want to sweep under the rug.

Then go watch some gay people get thrown off roofs, only to have their bodies stoned once they hit the ground.

Maybe a faint flicker of understanding will turn on.

>>81062088
>political book doesn't have an agenda

>>81055437
>let me simplify the argument my opponent is making to make it seem like they're crazy

Yep, women always had it fair and equal in America, those dumb cunts should learn their place and stop trying to depict us white men as anything less than perfect.

>>81062300
are you seriously saying we used to treat women the same as people who stone them and throw acid on them?

>>81062442
Where did I say that? Quote my post. Please distort my argument since that's all you know how to do.

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>>81062617
All you've been doing this entire thread is shilling for Islam, complaining about whites and Christians and equivocating between the two of them.

Fuck off already Ahmed.

>>81056118
Then delete it.

I do it all the time.

>>81062617
see >>81060205

>>81062779
>>81062886
I didn't post that, idiots. Do you see a tripcode on my posts, retards?

>>81059246
>Have you ever considered that muslim take on women is pretty much identical to christian take on women pre-industrialization? Like, biological roles and shit?

this is revisionist nonsense. even before industrialization the west (especially the protestant parts) was more gender egalitarian than the muslim world.

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>>81062975
Egalitarianism isn't even the whole story, there's an actively misogynistic undercurrent.

Like how some Christian sects had hijab-ish requirements about women's hair, yet there was never any Western equivalent to the burkha

>>81063268
plus the pretty obvious difference that Christianity mandates monogamy and Islam allows (encourages, even) polygamy. it produces totally different power dynamics between men and women.

You fags may not like the themes of the book but it is pretty fucking good nevertheless.

I don't see any reason to take it as a comment on modern American society since it was written decades ago and she's Canadian.

It's a pity they are taking this adaptation in that direction though.

>>81064434
>pretty fucking good nevertheless.

only if your standard for source material is comic books and YA novels

objectively speaking it barely rises to the level of middlebrow

>>81064434
>I don't see any reason to take it as a comment on modern American society since it was written decades ago and she's Canadian.

She wrote it around the time that the "Moral Majority" and evangelicalism were becoming a significant presence in US politics in the '80s.

>she's Canadian

Canadians like almost all non-American Anglos think Americans are religious fanatics

t. non-American Anglo

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>>81064727
>She wrote it around the time that the "Moral Majority" and evangelicalism were becoming a significant presence in US politics in the '80s.

This is the key. Leftists in the 80s thought Pat Robertson was going to lead the Fundamentalist Jihad and impose Jesus Taliban.

They didn't. The Evangelical Right pretty much dissolved after GWB's 2nd term.

Today Islamic Extremists a far greater threat than 'the ebil Christian exmtremeists!!!!" ever did but you won't be reading any dystopian novels about sharia dominated societies written by leftists, womyn or Canadians.

Really activates my almonds, huh?

the orginal movie had a pretty good 7/10 rape scene.

heres hoping the tv series has more good rapes to fap to.