I like Scarlett Johanson and her body, but I really don't

>>80897181
inb4
pork in a shell
ghost in taco bell
body shaped like a bell
200 pounds feeling swell
farts loud as 100 decibel
android lipid cell
belly stuck in a well
diet plan? do tell
weight watchers was hell
in the fridge i dwell
after sports i smell
tumblr says I'm a bombshell
gluttons are our clientele
elevator instead of stairwell
perky tits farewell

>>80897215
kek

Asian women can't act

>>80897181

She has too much baby fat and too much of a jewy face to pull off that badass chick look well.

there are no asian women that look powerful enough

>>80897181
major is cyborg not asian

She's the favorite directors' ho.

>>80897181
they didn't want an ugly actress, so that leaves out any asian unfortunately

>>80897319
Sure, but I still think she's a different type as he said>>80897271

>>80897181
no asian woman famous enough to draw attention exists.

also, she's a fucking cyborg, she's not "supposed to look asian".

>>80897181

Motoko > Punk great hair cut
Scarjo Mira > Just a bad haircut

>>80897181

Why get an Asian actress to play a non-Asian character? Doesn't make much sense to me.

>>80897181
>I like Scarlett Johanson and her body, but I really don't think she's a good fit for the Major.

Bad choices for GITS

Scarlett Johanson after pregnancy, little fat
not in great shape for playing The Major

PG13

NO FUCKING NUDITY

Ghost in the Shell without nudity, only in Muhrica

>>80897181
cherry panties was never known for her acting chops

The trailer was literal cancer.

An otherwise completely intellectual original script turned 180 into some sensationalist bullshit, what the fuck are they thinking.

Trailer suggested some alterations, like the fact that the procedure "saved her life". I thought she was just given the procedure to hack other soldiers during the army stint. And seriously. Where are the tachikomas? another layer of intelligence stripped away for normie satisfaction, although i suspect they'll make a cameo appearance somewhere.

Honestly, after watching Ghost in the shell and it being one of the few good animes (everything is sensationalist, stereotypical and weird now)... What the fuck were they thinking. Jesus Christ.

Would not watch

>>80897181
it's didn't need to be an asian character, if anything white is the logical choice, not only does Motoko's body look caucasian, it's outer appearance is meant to look mass produced. There's a point in the original movie where she feels weirded out because she looks at another cyborg with her same body, but of course it's not her, whoami.jpg etc.?

>>80897748
THIS.

they could have attained the hairstyle on the right by using a hair dryer, to make it less flat

lazy fuks

>>80897748
I haven't seen the movie but anyone that complains about it being whitewashed hasn't seen the anime show or movies. The characters that are mostly prosthetics like batou and the major are incredibly distinct and more caucasian than the characters that aren't such as togusa and saito and pazu. Besides, asians love whitey. Is it so hard to believe they wouldn't make most of their prosthetic bodies caucasian? The major's shell was basically an off the shelf model that has been souped up and overpowered beyond belief.

If you're going only for looks then johansen was miscast as fuck but a lot of her movies have her being quiet and brooding which works well for the major since she's basically 90% of the time introspective as fuck. Traue would've been fucking perfect since she has the look down without even trying though.

>>80897748
I've never seen the full trailer just bits and pieces. Batou looks so goofy but whatever, i can deal with a little stylization.

>I thought she was just given the procedure to hack other soldiers during the army stint.
What procedure? Major's body is complete gone bruh. The body she has is Section 9 property that's an off the shelf model that has been given all sorts of upgraded. The government fucking owns the major more or less since if she quits she has to give the body back lmao.

>Why was finding an Asian actress for this role such a big problem?

Because Hollywood doesn't have a bankable asian star to carry a movie that costs over 100 million dollars.

>>80897748
>completely intellectual original script
hold you're horses m8, yeah it was "smarter" than most movies back in the 90's let alone animated movies, but it's not like, sooo deep mang, either.

I'm biased though, I'm an oldfag and sometimes teenager oriented entertainment just looks a bit too prosaic to be taken seriously if I don't put the effort to place it in it's intended context.

>>80898512
> if anything white is the logical choice, not only does Motoko's body look caucasian, it's outer appearance is meant to look mass produced

EXACTLY. This is what people don't understand and why it's retarded when they're crying about her being whitewashed. You really think that if nips had to get a prosthetic body they wouldn't get one that's caucasian as fuck? In any case just watch the anime and look at her eyes. They're 100% caucasian and they were made like that intentionally since you can tell the other members that are mostly human like togusa have asian features.

>>80898609
Nah only Asians can get hair like that

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>>80897181

>he still thinks anime characters are designed to look asian

>>80898686
the chick from Pacific Rim should look noticeable older now but she could pull it off.

>>80897451
This one of those things I hate about movies nowadays is that they feel they need a big name to draw in viewers. Yes I guess it kind of works unfortunately. But I feel like it kills the movie most of the time. I'm hoping its not the case for this. I just wish studios would pick people based on talent and looking like the part and not just solely based on their popularity

Why make a Ghost In The Shell adaptation? For what purpose? Why not just see the original?

>>80898766
she is like 4ft tall tho

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>>80897215

>>80898790
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETxmCCsMoD0

i honestly don't care about the asian thing, but Scarlett johansen feels very wrong.

>>80897181
No one gives a shit.

>>80897181
If you actually gave a fuck you'd know her ethnicity is completely irrelevant to the original film, and that ScarJo is to put behinds in seats.

>>80898779
>nowadays
How young are you?

>>80898928
>nitpicking someone saying "nowadays"

How autistic are you?

>>80897181

The problem isn't the the major being white.

The problem is the major being played by someone whose body can't convincingly portray mechanically crafted perfection. She's still beautiful, but she's past her prime on on the verge of hitting the wall. I mean we had that big thread about that tech-nerds wife showing up in the gits leotard looking better. She just can't pull it off and they should have known better.

>>80898988
How is that a nitpick? you are pretending like its something new while this has been the case from the first days of Hollywood and was the same in your childhood when popular people were called to voice act in animated movies and whole franchises were built around actors popularity and ability to carry it

>>80899038
>whose body can't convincingly portray mechanically crafted perfection.
if you wanted that then it should have stayed animated.

>>80899111

Some women do look like that, and can pull it off, admittedly it's usually a small window of 4 or 5 years. ScarJo, as beautiful as she is, is past that window.

>>80899111
and it fucking should have

>>80899038
I, for one, would like to see those pictures.

I don't really like ScarJo but if I had to guess it was probably a combination of the movie being produced by Spielberg and Arad together with the Japanese company holding the film rights that led to her casting.

She's a pro-Israeli Jew and she's popular in Japan for some reason.

>>80899266
>pro-Israeli Jew
After all these years on the internet, I still find anti-Semitism incredibly disgusting.

>>80897181
don't have a problem with it being a non asian just wish they would have got a better actress

>>80899416
No fan of scarjo, but name an actress with legit action chops who can act well enough to pull off philosophical depth and existential crisis.

I think casting director gave up, and execs just went straight for box office draw instead.

There aren't any leading Asian women in Hollywood. The movie only got off the ground because they could attach a "name" to it like a ScarJo.

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>>80899340
>anti-semitism
>because opposition to the subjugation of Palestinians and the giving of millions to subsidize a foreign military (and allowing them to use a quarter of it to self-enrich) that regularly commits human rights abuses equates to hating an entire religious and ethnic group

>>80899625
Gal Gadot

>>80897181
Chinks want a pretty Jew girl.

>>80899340
You know what you can save for yourself: your islamophobia. Literally nobody wants to hear it.

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OP triggered that a white woman is playing a robot. Hope ScarJo plays pic related, too, to active some almonds.

>>80899938
what series is this? is this some kantai collection adaptation?

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>>80899912
I for one, would prefer to hear every argument that allows me to hate Islam as much as possible. Fucking death cult...

>>80897181
>no tachikomas
WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY THINKING REEE

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Would've preferred a toned asian girl and a strong supporting white male cast.

I like her pudgy marshmallow body

>>80897319
>>80897451
Cyborgs look human, and she is Japanese.

>>80897633
She isn't non-Asian.

>>80898637
A character doesn't look white just because she doesn't look Japanese. That's not how anime character design works.

>Besides, asians love whitey.
Not as much as you think.

>>80898724
>You really think that if nips had to get a prosthetic body they wouldn't get one that's caucasian as fuck?
This is projection.

>In any case just watch the anime and look at her eyes. They're 100% caucasian
Anime character design doesn't work like you think it does.

>>80898751
The fact that they don't look Asian doesn't mean they look white.

>>80900581
Her ethnicity is irrelevant to the original story's themes.

>>80900581
>The fact that they don't look Asian doesn't mean they look white.

well what else do they look like?

>>80900718
Why do they have to look like any real race?

>the puppetmaster isn't even in this


garbage

>>80897181
she isn't supposed to be in an asian body

it's a plot point

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>A character with a synthetic body in a movie based on a manga written and illustrated by a xenophile who now spends his time doing digial pin-ups of oiled-up brown girls

Yes, clearly she was meant to have slanted eyes

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it could have been so much better

>>80900854
>the puppetmaster isn't even in this
WHAT?!

>>80901179
Anime character design does not work the way you think it does.

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Scarlett is really hot but once she opens her mouth its just her raspy hot lady voice. Also Scarlett is too THICC. She doesnt look like a commando at all.

I could ignore her sexy ass THICCness but her voice is just way off.

>>80900797
Kill yourself

>>80901237
Perfect for the role.

>>80901306
I don't think it works the way you think it does.

>>80901427
I should kill myself because anime characters don't look like real people? Why?

>>80901465
It does, since I actually do understand how it works.

>>80897181
Kusanagi was always supposed to have a European appearance. The only explicitly Japanese non-cyborgs were always black haired and brown-eyed.

That being said, I'm not sure hiring a fat feminist Jew with zero acting ability but plenty of nepotistic connections was the best choice.

Then again, this movie was designed to be pushed out like last night's steak and sold to teenage boys for a quick buck, and it'll do that job.

>>80901487
Whichever way it works, the character ended up looking more like a European person than an east-Asian person. If that's not what they were going for, they might want to tweak the method a bit.

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kek, they even asked asians are they mad about casting a white chick as major, none of them gave a shit, most said that it wouldn't feel right if it was played by an asian, because anime characters don't look asian even to them

>>80901676
just to add, they asked asians living in asian countries rather than american asians

>>80901654
People read anime characters as white because of narcissism or white supremacism. Or perhaps just stupidity.

>>80901676
Manga and anime characters are constantly played by Japanese actors, and the fact that a character does not look Japanese does not mean that the character looks white.

>>80901487
It's not some super difficult math problem. Japs design anime characters to look different. They pick random shapes and colors to match whatever style they're going for.

White people think they're the default race. So any time a character doesn't look like a racist caricature they think the character is white. You could literally draw a circle with a face made up of 3 dots and a line and they will argue that the drawing is of a white person.

>>80901772
This is true. White people aren't the only fair-skinned, blue-eyed, blonde race, amirite?

>>80901753
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DhoBuU1Dtc

get real, pitiful otaku

>>80901753
No, people read them as white because they're drawn that way. Naruto is a blue eyed blond. You're trying too hard m8

>>80901840
A comment from a couple of random pedestrians doesn't mean shit.

As soon as I saw that video for the first time I knew right away that people would be using it as propaganda for years to come.

>>80901856
>No, people read them as white because they're drawn that way.
They aren't.

>Naruto is a blue eyed blond.
If looking white is a matter of having the right hair and eye color, then logically any Asian person will look white if they change their hair and eye color.

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>>80901772
is it on a white piece of paper?

>>80901897
>If looking white is a matter of having the right hair and eye color
>If
What do you mean if? Blonde hair and blue eyes are stereotypical white.
>then logically any Asian person will look white if they change their hair and eye color.
Look, I'm not sure. Be considered as mimicking the stereotypical white look? Yes.

>>80901753
You're right, the character that I'm talking about doesn't look White or Japanese. They look like a Grey Alien that more closely resembles a White person than a Japanese person.

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>>80901897
Means more than the retardation you're spewing, I mean, jesus fucking christ
>If looking white is a matter of having the right hair and eye color, then logically any Asian person will look white if they change their hair and eye color.

>>80901179
mass effect andromeda

>>80901897
And do you have anything to support what you're saying, beside your own pissy nonsense?

>>80897181
>Why was finding an Asian actress for this role such a big problem?

Because US audiences would prefer to see a white woman in a leading role over an Asian. Too risky for the studio. How is this hard for people to understand?

>>80901957
Asian people who put on a blonde wig and blue contacts don't look white. White people with black hair and brown eyes don't look Asian. So why do anime character look white if they just have the right hair and eye color? And what about characters who have colors that don't naturally exist? Are they aliens?

>>80901993
Do you seriously think I was arguing that? I was pointing out the flaw in his logic. You are in no position to call anyone retarded.

>>80902035
Do you have anything to support what you're saying? No, you don't.

>>80902062
Just linked you a video, that's more than you supplied.

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>>80899340
KYS you fucking filthy kike

>>80902115
I already refuted it:
>A comment from a couple of random pedestrians doesn't mean shit.

>>80902062
>Asian people who put on a blonde wig and blue contacts don't look white
That's why I said:
>Look, I'm not sure. Be considered as mimicking the stereotypical white look? Yes.
>White people with black hair and brown eyes don't look Asian
Alright.
>So why do anime character look white if they just have the right hair and eye color?
Because it is associated with white people. This is not difficult to grasp. I was actually agreeing with you until you started with the "I understand how it works," but your understanding is equivalent to being a pedant.
>And what about characters who have colors that don't naturally exist? Are they aliens?
Not sure. I don't think about those things, and that's not what is under discussion.

>>80902150
Why do you get to make that dismissal? Who are you?

>>80901237
>antje-traue

That name is ugly af and unpronouncable. Dropped

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>>80901427
Hey guys Homer Simpson doesn't LOOK white, which means he isn't white!

>>80902150
You didn't refute shit. You ignore actual opinions of people from the relevant culture and somehow that can be ignored but someone should listen to one dude makes something out of nothing on an anonymous image board?

Straighten yourself out, kid.

>>80902062
You're a fucking retard

>>80902165
>Because it is associated with white people.
Doesn't matter. They still don't look white any more than Japanese cosplayers look white.

>I don't think about those things
You should, because anime hair and eye colors are not limited to blonde and blue.

>Why do you get to make that dismissal?
Because it's true. Or do you really think any comment from random people on the street is the definitive answer to everything? Or is that only true when the comment happens to align with your agenda?

>>80902228
> You ignore actual opinions of people from the relevant culture
Again:
>A comment from a couple of random pedestrians doesn't mean shit.

>someone should listen to one dude makes something out of nothing on an anonymous image board?
I didn't start this.

>Straighten yourself out, kid.
You must be 18 or older to post here, kid.

>>80902257
No, you are.

>>80901836
True, I've seen fair-skinned, blue-eyed, blonde people all over. In Iraq, in Brazil, in the US born to a black couple. Some traits are rare in certain populations, but it's not impossible.

>>80902294
If a comment from a couple pedestrians doesn't mean shit, why would a comment from you mean anything. You're even less than a couple of random pedestrians.

Motoko looks more like a White person than a Japanese person in the original anime.

>>80902391
>why would a comment from you mean anything
This has nothing to do with me.

>>80902294
>Doesn't matter
Fucking WHAT? You asked "why do anime character look white if they have the right hair and eye color?" I answered you succinctly, and then you get to dismiss it? This is not how discourse works. You have no sound reasoning to spring off of.
>You should
Not really. That's not what is under discussion.
>Because it's true. Or do you really think any comment from random people on the street is the definitive answer to everything? Or is that only true when the comment happens to align with your agenda?
You see the irony in that you're an anonymous individual on the internet, yes? You have just as much value as they. Your dismissal of them without any argument means nothing.

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>>80902423
>>80902294
And here I thought the guy was actually this retarded. Stop feeding the troll for fuck's sake

>>80897748
Explain to me why tachikomas are so important

>>80902462
> I answered you succinctly, and then you get to dismiss it?
Making a statement does not mean the statement can't be dismissed.

>Not really.
Yes really. Again: there are more colors than blonde and blue in anime character design.

>You see the irony in that you're an anonymous individual on the internet, yes?
This has nothing to do with me.

>>80902515
You either don't know what trolling is or you're lying. Which is it?

Spoilers she isn't Major in the film.

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>>80902515
what is pupper doing down ther

>>80902535
they play critical roles in cyber-reconnaissance and combat too.

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>>80902553
>Making a statement does not mean the statement can't be dismissed.

Then you're not looking to have discourse, and you have no sound reasoning to spring off of. See ya on the flip side, man.

>>80901753
Nips draw their chinese cartoon characters as white because they recognize that whites are superior. There is nothing to interpret.

>>80897663
Can robots be nude?

>>80902644
Again, making a statement does not mean the statement can't be dismissed.

>>80902649
This is white supremacist projection.

>>80897663
there wasn't any nudity in the anime either. god, people really don't know shit about ghost in the shell. fucking weak.

>>80902722
I dismiss your statements.

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>>80902722
>not an argument

>>80902825
What is not an argument?

>>80897215
I love you

johanson tooks like a typical jewess. Thing is monoko looks very typical anime European like a czech pornstar. Asians are butt ugly and look nothing like anime characters and yes I realize japanese anime characters are "japanese".

>>80902838
> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/argument
it's not that

These threads are shit
>fans of gits point out differences
>shills: nuh uh you just dont understand the source material
rinse and repeat

>>80902883
What is your point?

>>80902179
hating on auntje

ill kick your ass anon

>>80902934
I dimiss your questions, my point is perfectly clear and correct.

>>80902993
Ok, I see. This is one of those things where you try to lead someone on a wild goose chase, endlessly posting vague and non-sequitur answers and never making any point or argument, and it will go on for hours.

I have no idea why people do this.

Asians are only 5% of America. This country is majority white. This shit isn't rocket science.

Second, Asians are too alien for most Americans. They don't have the kind of mannerisms and acting ability that Americans are comfortable with.

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>>80903041

>>80903067
"Americans" also includes Asians.

>>80897181
Major looks nothings like an asian.
Pretty sure she isn't even asian in the manga/animes but I wouldn't know I don't watch cartoons.

>We're creating a new movie. For the lead, should we hire someone who fits the role, or someone who's a recognized star that is guaranteed to sell tickets no matter the quality of the movie?

>>80903195
An anime character does not have to look Japanese in order to be Japanese.

GitS isn't a cartoon.

>>80903195
Doesnt look jewish either :^)

>>80903195
Her ethnicity is irrelevant to the themes of the original story. Anyone upset by ScarJo's ethnicity, and not her physique or ability as an actor, is a moron.

>>80902761
Nigger I don't give a shit whether she is nude or not in any movie but this bullshit needs to stop. At the end of GITS when Motoko is pulling the tank's hatch open and she is completely bare from the waist up and she hulks out and her fucking arms explode, you can see her god damn tits. That's nudity.

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>>80903290
>those dead soulless eyes
>doesnt look jewish

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>>80897181
She looks like a fucking afghan hound

>>80897181
because they want a movie star not a random asian

>>80903494
Why? Its only hope is china/korea because its going to bomb everywhere else. Shouldve kept it asian

>>80903168
Yeah but even Asian-Americans are seen as foreign. It doesn't matter how many generations of their families lived here or if they were born & raised as any other American, they're always going to be seen as different.

>>80903545
We all know it's not going to bomb. At worst it's going to get some adversity in the first few years, still makes a sizeable profit and in the future be regarded as one of cyberpunk greats.

>>80903574
Their mannerisms and acting are the same.

>>80897663
How bad do you want horse cock, Shirow?

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>>80898766
Engrish not so good. Also, somewhat blacklisted in nipland. Or atleast was. I dont know how they look at her now, for having gone fully nudie in Babel

>>80903685
I'm triggered because I recognized what he was trying to do? What?

>>80899240
Yet you fags arent watching Arise and you wouldnt watch this either

I don't get this, the girl in the anime doesn't look asian at all, why would she be played by an asian woman? She looks caucasian.

>>80900326
SS was her first role. You niggers really think she could do GiTS? Let alone draw in viewers?
>This is Major. She's got muh back
That being said she's cute as fuck and has a big ol booty

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This is what it looks like when anime characters are actually portrayed as asian instead of caucasian. It's time to stop with the "every race sees themselves" bullshit.

>>80903791
A character does not look white just because the character does not look Japanese, and she should ideally be played by a Japanese actress because the character is Japanese.

>>80897181

In the original movie, it's implied that the Major's body wasn't her original body or identity, and she never elaborates on what that is. She could've originally been an 85 year old Norwegian man, and we'd never know, and the movie never tells us.

Also, the movie's basic theme is "Globalization is coming whether you want it or not".
I don't think the upcoming movie's creators had a comprehensive understanding of the original's movies themes and ideas in mind for the upcoming movie, but anyone complaining about ScarJo in place of an Asian actress absolutely doesn't know, and absolutely should.

>>80903896
Anime characters are not white. You are either a narcissist or white supremacist.

>>80903921
She looks white because she looks white.

>>80903963
She doesn't.

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>>80903953
I'm both, doesn't mean I'm wrong.

>>80904048
You are wrong.

>>80903921
There is a limited amount of human races, you know. What race does she resemble the most?

>>80900581
major was clearly white you fucking retard, use your eyes

asian characters were people like the garbage collectors and shit, the difference in animation is extremely obvious
>>80902761
there was nudity in the anime, when her arms got ripped off her suit broke and you could see her nips (exact same as the suit but just coloured)

american tv cant show nipple bumps either so even if its not technically "nudity" the skin suit is completely different

>>80903289
a character having a japanese nationality doesnt mean they are ethnically japanese

major is white, its obvious as shit when you compare her to backround characters like the garbage men

>>80904095
Drawings don't have to look like real people.

>>80904097
>major was clearly white you fucking retard
She clearly wasn't.

>asian characters were people like the garbage collectors and shit
Anime character design does not have to conform to any kind of real life logic.

>>80904131
>major is white
She isn't.

>>80904097
>there was nudity in the anime
That's true. On the other hand, it had zero importance and took up a couple of seconds of screentime as a non focal point of the shot.

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>white suprematists: Major is clearly asian!
>yids: No she is clearly white like Scarjo!

>>80904143
>Drawings don't have to look like real people.

Whether they have to or not is not important, what's important is that they do. If you're drawing humans that's something you can't escape.

>>80904232
>what's important is that they do
They don't.

>>80904143
>She clearly wasn't.
>blue eyes
>non hooded lids
>pale skin
>looked nothing like the asian characters

hmm, i suppose she was a nigger?

>>80904273
I suppose she was an anime character.

>>80904273
You got everything right except the skin part. The more civilized asian countries tend to have pretty similar skin to caucasians.

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I think she should have been Asian because the source material has her as Asian ... The same with the new light yagami in death note as well .... What pisses me off is that most of the normie Jack offs who are fine with race swapping white characters since they are white...

It's not OK to swap a white for an Asian and it's not OK to swap a black for a white ...

If you aren't ok with white washing don't be OK with black washing

>>80904213
What? How are they white supremacists if they think she should be asian?

>>80904273
>has red eyes in 2nd gig
shes a cyborg so she can have whatever eye color

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>>80904361
youre right, they arent as dark as filipinos or malaysians or something but the asian characters in gits were clearly animated to be a little bit darker than the white characters (same as real life)

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Can a cyborg really have an ethnicity?

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>>80904445

>>80904383
Her ethnicity is irrelevant to the themes of the original story. The fact that you take issue with it at all, instead of ScarJo's physique or ability as an actress, tells me you're a moron.

>>80904445
a white cyborg

nothing in the series is worth watching besides the original movie anyways

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Alright shills, this is your end
>pic related: how a caucasian woman is depicted in Japanese anime

>>80901237
Why does /tv/ always insist that roles go to whoever looks the most like the character, regardless of acting ability?

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>>80900005

They are the chosen battleship bitches.

>>80904497
I'm sure your voices tells you a lot of people are morons. Strong intellect like you must be having fun in the slums of 4chan

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>>80897181
>Scarlett WNSOYF

>>80897181
>Asian actress
I would of been irrelevant if the actress could act besides the only people who cared are retards virtue signaling

>>80904535
The depiction of white characters varies, and even the same anime can have one white character with really exaggerated features and another that looks the same as the Japanese ones.

>>80904503
2nd Gig has oodles of intrigue, man. You're selling it real short.
>>80904556
What did you mean by this?

>>80904503
oh look another shill that isnt a fan of GitS shitting up this thread

>>80904587
Sorry dude I'm too moronic to explain it

>>80904633
That's a shame. Godspeed.

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>>80904543
Well, that's usually how it goes with adaptations, I don't think it's something unique to /tv/. It's pretty straightforward to want a portrayed character to look like the portrayed character. Otherwise why bother adapting and not just make something new?

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>>80903953
you don't watch enough anime to be familiar with the issue, that's the problem

an actual good example I'm surprised nobody uses is Full Metal Panic, the point of the story is that the main character works in a sort of mercenary company that recruits around the world.

Most characters have the generic anime look to them except for say the stereotypical black lips on a black person. Seosuke, the main character is middle eastern from Afghanistan, but you would never know it by his character design alone, he just has brown skin, the rest is typical weeabo shit.

the pic related characters get abducted at some point and Seosuke gives instructions to release them by saying to release the caucasian woman first, then the japanese one.

But neither have particularly racially distinct features. When japanese people want to make it explicit for some reason that a character is japanese they add distinctive racial features to them.

Anime characters aren't exactly "white" by default, but they sure as fuck aren't asian either. What that means for adaptation is that any actor looking closer to what's in the page is good enough, white is enough for Motoko, the in canon reasons have already been explained in the thread.

>>80904572
MUH DICK

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>>80903953
yes clearly both of these characters are niggers

>>80904759
>you don't watch enough anime to be familiar with the issue
I watch more than you and I am perfectly familiar with the "issue."

>he just has brown skin, the rest is typical weeabo shit
Unless you are saying his character is made to look like a weeaboo, this word does not mean what you think it does.

>Anime characters aren't exactly "white" by default, but they sure as fuck aren't asian either.
I didn't say they look Japanese. Which doesn't mean Japanese actors shouldn't be playing them.

>>80904794
I never said either of those characters is black. I never brought up those characters at all. I never argued anything about any characters looking black.

>Currently at a predicted 7.2/10
Thats not bad for an anime to live action translation

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>>80904775
She's a fox. I don't give a fuck Under the Skin was weird.

>>80904872
>I didn't say they look Japanese. Which doesn't mean Japanese actors shouldn't be playing them.
By that logic there is no difference between either a white or a japanese character playing them.

>>80897181

I have more problems with the name change than with the fact that she is not actually japanese.

I do think that instead of Scarjo they should have gone with Bekinsale if they where gonna go with a western cast.

>>80904927
A Japanese character is still a Japanese character even if they don't look Japanese.

>>80904896
>Currently at a predicted 7.2/10
how does that work?

>>80904872
not niggers? what race would you say "reinhard von lohengram" and "yang wenli" would be then?

>>80904975
Prescreenings

>>80904971
except when they're not and they still don't look any different...

>>80905011
Reinhard is, judging by the name, white. Obviously not every anime character is Japanese.

>>80905026
What about it?

>>80904903
Agreed. I know I'm in the minority here but I still think she's sexy

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>>80904872
by weeabo shit I mean typical character design you fucking autist, try to at least put some effort to understand what you're reading

>a story about being disassociated from your physical world and what it truly means to be 'human'
>literally called 'Ghost in the Shell' because that's what her body is to her: a shell
>retards are fighting over the shell and not the ghost

How fucking retarded can you get? It's like I'm living in a dream.

It doesn't matter what her body is, she's gives less of a fuck than anyone. That's why she walks around casually naked because the idea of being seen in a sensitive and intimate way is irrelevant to her because it's NOT HER FUCKING BODY.

>>80904971
If the character design doesn't conform to what the ethnicity looks like, then naturally the appropriate actor isn't going to be chosen based on their ethnicity but based on their similarity to the character visually. There's nothing difficult about this.

>>80905089
>retards are fighting over the shell and not the ghost
the dumbest thing ive read in a while and i spend too much time on /tv/

>>80905083
Weeaboo means wannabe Japanese. What makes typical anime character design wannabe Japanese?

>>80905092
Anime characters are Japanese and look neither white nor Japanese. Obviously a Japanese actor is the appropriate choice.

>>80905071
judging by the name only hmm?

blue eyes and blonde hair wouldnt tell us anything now would it

>>80905019
Oh, I thought there was some sort of embargo until the release date.

>>80905074
>thinking scarjo is sexy
>in the minority
huh

>>80905144
>blue eyes and blonde hair wouldnt tell us anything now would it
No, because there are many Japanese characters with blue eyes and blonde hair.

>>80905153
I did say "here". This board hates her, m8.

>>80905140
>Anime characters are Japanese and look neither white nor Japanese. Obviously a Japanese actor is the appropriate choice.
When the character looks like neither, then either can play the character depending on which looks like more like it. I'm not talking about which race resembles the character the most, but which person and in this case that person turned out to be caucasian.

>>80905175
white japanese characters?

obviously not every japanese character is ethnically asian :)

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>>80905140
character design that appeals to YOU. are you japanese?
was that too hard?

>>80905140
>Anime characters are Japanese and look neither white nor Japanese. Obviously a Japanese actor is the appropriate choice.
this is a fucking non sequitor, straight up.

>>80905131
Kys my man. The only argument about her not being Japanese is aesthetic, that's it.

>>80905144
>blue eyes and blonde hair wouldnt tell us anything now would it
what about the anime characters with purple eyes and red hair? what is their ethnicity?

>>80905210
>When the character looks like neither, then either can play the character depending on which looks like more like it.
No, because the character is Japanese.

>>80905212
No, ethically Japanese characters. I know this may sound incredible, but anime does not function the same way real life does.

>>80905246
>character design that appeals to YOU.
What does it have to do with me?

>this is a fucking non sequitor, straight up.
How?

>>80905282
Not even aesthetic, aesthetically she fits, the argument is more semantic.

>>80905089
The problem is everyone who's seen the original film just remembers how cool it looked and don't remember jack shit about the themes.

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>>80905323
Oh boy people are still feeding this dude. /tv/, stop shitting up your own board by replying to posters like this. It's just embarassing for everyone.

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>>80905323
>anime does not function the same way real life does.

source?

just because you watch shitty kiddie weebshit animes all day with copy pasted characters doesnt mean other animes like gits cannot have characters of different ethnicities

are all of the characters in this image ethnically japanese? yes or no, explain your reasoning :)

>>80905323
>No, because the character is Japanese.
If it's so important that the character is japanese, why did they not make it look japanese in the anime? And if they didn't, why does it matter for the actor to be or look japanese?

>inb4 because the character is japanese

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>>80905430
all the characters in THIS image are japanese despite there being a little girl with grey hair

>>80905477
and which one of these 2 animes do you think gits is more similar to?

>>80905477
But anime doesn't function the same way as real life does, japanese characters in an anime don't have to actually be japanese. It's a trick that has nothing to do with real life japan.

Mamoru Oshii is a pretentious hack.

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>>80897254
I heard it's because Asians don't have "souls", for lack of a better term. There's just nothing inside their consciousness like that.

I also heard that's why half white/half asian halfbreeds are always either violent as fuck "elliot roger" or degenerate as fuck "all those half asian half white porn star sluts. It's because they get half a "soul" from the white parent and it literally drives the Asian pert of them insane.

>>80905419
It's not possible for anyone to "feed" me since I am not trolling. You either don't know what trolling means or you are lying. Which is it?

>>80905430
>source?
The Wikipedia generation is beyond help. They think everything can and must be backed up by a "source" or "citation." Any kind of independent thinking is out of the question.

Obviously anime does not work the way real life does when ethnically Japanese characters have naturally blonde and green hair and blue and purple eyes.

>just because you watch shitty kiddie weebshit animes all day
Most anime isn't made for children, and anime by definition isn't weeaboo.

>copy pasted characters
This is a meme. Character designs are not copy pasted in anime. That's not how things work.

>doesnt mean other animes like gits cannot have characters of different ethnicities
I never said all anime characters are Japanese.

>>80905472
>If it's so important that the character is japanese, why did they not make it look japanese in the anime?
Why should they have?

>And if they didn't, why does it matter for the actor to be or look japanese?
The character is Japanese.

>>80905530
>japanese characters in an anime don't have to actually be japanese. It's a trick that has nothing to do with real life japan.
i take this >>80905131 back

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Anime was created by disaffected young Japanese males. It's the fruit of otaku culture. It's probably true that there's a white-worship element to anime because the people creating them are looking outward for salvation.

>>80899266
>>80899340
Japan does not view her as a jew, but as a big Amurikkkan actress. Same on Natalie Hershlag.

>>80905527
characters that arent japanese are explicitly stated to be foreign. clearly a black character like >>80905430 could be japanese nationally but thats it

>>80905569
>ethnically Japanese characters have naturally blonde and green hair and blue and purple eyes.

can you give any examples of this in gits?

>>80905651
I thought anime doesn't function the same way real life does?

>>80900326
Her career is dead. At the end she is just another Japanese American rich girl like Devon Aoki.

>>80905731
characters have all sorts of hair/eye colors to distinguish them and for artists to have creative liberty. none of the aesthetics can be used to interpret ethnicity

>>80905682
>Anime was created by disaffected young Japanese males.
What made them "disaffected"?

>It's the fruit of otaku culture.
Otaku culture came from anime, not the other way around.

>It's probably true that there's a white-worship element to anime
Yes, any interest in Western culture must be "white worship." Just like anyone with an interest in Japanese culture must be a weeaboo.

>>80905727
Motoko has purple hair and red eyes in SAC.

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>>80905477
>renge
>grey hair

you colorblind?

>>80905554
Go back to /x/ you autist.

>>80897181
Because China hates Japan.

>>80905841
uh oh anon

>>80905799
An actor can put on any color wig, color their hair in any way and put in any color lenses. If ethnicity is just a word and can't be interpreted visually, then there's no reason a white actor can't play the character and even be called japanese. Movies also don't have to conform to reality.

>>80905938
Why should white actors be playing Japanese characters?

>>80905971
Why not?

>>80904458
Pale skinned Asians are a thing. Motoko's race is rather ambiguous in the movie, but she could pass for Asian.

>>80905938
it might work for some mediums like cartoons and theatre (Hamilton for example) but i dont think the movie medium is ready for that

>>80905971
Are you specifically talking about GiTS, or in general?

>>80905995
Because they're Japanese characters.

>>80906045
In general.

>>80904794
Yang is meant to be of chink background yet he looks like eastern european.

>>80905831
>Otaku culture came from anime
You don't even know what that word means do you?

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>>80906018
The movie medium went through blackface among other things before you were even born. It's ready for way more, mate.

>>80906099
What makes you think I don't?

>>80906077
>Because they're Japanese characters.
I know this may sound incredible, but movies do not have to conform to real life.

>>80904903
>>80905074
>>80905153
>>80905194
Under the Skin was just an excuse to get her nekkid.

I dunno, I am in the love/hate section for her. She is a year younger than me, and felt she was too young to play BW in IronMan 2. Always felt Milia Jovovich should had been BW, oddly she is older than the Chrises.

>>80906129
black/yellow/redface is a horrible comparison and you know it

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>>80904572
>YWN be her goy toy

>>80906207
Live action and anime are two different things. Live action does more or less conform to reality. It's nonsensical to have white actors play Japanese characters.

>>80897181
BECAUSE A ASIAN ACTRESS WOULD AND WILL NOT SELL THE FUCKING MOVIE

How can /tv/ be this moron?

>>80906130
Because it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with anime? Idolfags are one of the biggest otaku groups

>>80906348
Anime is the focal point of "otaku culture."

>>80906304
I'm not comparing. I'm hyperbolically pointing out that someone thinking that a medium "isn't ready" for something means nothing and changes nothing. It might only affect the more timid directors who'd rather stay safe than create exactly what and how they want.

>>80906387
No, it's just the biggest market. Or do you think transpotting in Japan started because of anime?

>>80906431
I applaud your forward attitude towards artistic expression.

>>80897254
DRIVE, anon. Asian women can't DRIVE.

>>80906263
Emily Blunt was going to play Natasha. She was contractually obligated to go do that awful Guliver movie with Jack Black and had to turn down the role in the last moment, unfortunately.

>>80906484
I am talking about "otaku culture," not any and all activities that can be classified as otaku. Anime IS the focal point.

>>80906315
The only thing thing that might constrict live action is technology, otherwise everything is free game just like any artistic medium and a black man could play the current president of japan for all it matters.

>>80906601
The fact that anything can be done in live action doesn't mean it will and that it's a good idea. It's common sense that Japanese characters are played by at the very least Asian actors.

Why is there even an argument over this? If people don't like the GITS live-action, just stick with the anime. The adaptation doesn't negate the source material.

>>80906601
That settles it, Ken Watanabe for the Anne Frank biopic

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>>80906487
Not sure are you making fun of me, but either way what's the point of art if the artist doesn't get complete freedom.

That being said, doesn't mean art can't be shit or stupid insert any adjective here

>>80906633
One would also think it's common sense for an asian character to be drawn as an asian character considering that asians are real and the drawings are based on humans, which are also real. Yet only one get a pass in your logic.

>>80906710
I was being genuine. I know it's odd for a post on /tv/

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>>80906664
I'd rather see Kang-ho Song in the role, to be honest.

>>80897181
The creator of GITS thinks she's fine for the role. Japs love white women.


inb4 >jew >white

>>80906792
>One would also think it's common sense for an asian character to be drawn as an asian character
That is not common sense in anime. That is not how anime works or is supposed to work.

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>>80906792
>anime
>common sense

>>80898751

fuck off with that meme

I could find an asian girl who looks ten times more like anime than that pig-nosed whaitu piggu

>>80897181
why is she wearing lipstick?

>>80906847
So if some anime came out and it had appropriate visual representation of races, you would be just as adamant vilifying it as you vilify white actors (who actually look more like the character visually) playing an anime character who is japanese only in the most semantic terms? After all, as you said, it's not common sense in anime, is it.

>>80897181
>Why was finding an Asian actress for this role such a big problem?

Japanese don't even want a japanese actress for the role since it wouldn't look 'anime' anymore.

Only people complaining are fucking white liberal kids trying to stir up shit and start race wars.

>>80907046
>Only people complaining are fucking white liberal kids trying to stir up shit and start race wars.

This. Have you seen live action Attack on Titan?

Thank god Gits wasn't done by the japanese studios.

>>80907037
I have absolutely no idea what anything in your post means.

>>80906959
why does she have lips instead of a line? there are many mysteries on this earth

>>80907046
Yes, those couple of random pedestrians represent the entirety of Japan. And please pay no attention to the countless Japanese adaptations of manga and anime where the characters are played by Japanese actors.

>>80907122
Funny you bring up Attack on Titan, the series where there's like 3 Asians left, yet everyone is Japanese

>>80907094
Lemme break it down for you.

1. It's not common sense in film for a white actor to play an asian character.
2. It's not common sense in anime for a character to visually represent their ethnicity

The question is, would you throw a shitfit if an anime came out that portrayed races accurately?

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>>80906811
hmm

>>80907204
>The question is, would you throw a shitfit if an anime came out that portrayed races accurately?
It's already been done, and why would I "throw a shitfit"? Are you confusing me with some other poster?

>>80906834
Mamoru Oshii isn't the creator, he directed the 1995 anime movie.

>>80907122
A couple random pedestrians represent more of japan that one random poster you understand that, right? And how is it surprising to you for a japanese adaptation to have japanese actors and for an american adaptation to have american ones

>>80907335
As I've said several times now, this has nothing to do with me.

>And how is it surprising to you for a japanese adaptation to have japanese actors
I never said there's anything surprising about it.

>basically nude Scarjo

The tickets will sell themselves to a bunch of prepubescent boys.

>>80907264
Because you're throwing a shitfit over a white actor playing a japanese character, which according to you is not common sense in film. Yet a character in anime being drawn as their race accurately, once again according to you, is not how anime works and is not common sense, yet
>It's already been done, and why would I "throw a shitfit"?

Do you see the inconsistency in logic?

>>80907378
Boys who are in puberty are more interested in nudity than boys who are not, and why would anyone need to go to a movie theatre to see nudity in 2017?

>>80907436
There is no inconsistency because I never said anywhere that anime can't draw characters realistically. It just generally doesn't, and it's not something that can or should be expected from anime.

This isn't quantum rocket surgery.

>>80907377
You're claiming something while dismissing the claim of other people just because they're a couple of random pedestrians. What do you mean by it has nothing to do with you? What the fuck are you trying to say?

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>>80903343

>>80907506
The exact same logic can be applied to film which means there is no problem with with a white actress playing a japanese character.

>>80903343
she's still wearing her shell lol

>>80907522
A couple of random pedestrians do not represent the entirety or majority of Japan. They are just convinient propaganda tools.

>What do you mean by it has nothing to do with you?
It means exactly what it appears to mean. People keep trying to make this about me when in fact it has nothing to do with me.

>>80907581
>The exact same logic can be applied to film
No it cannot. Anime and live action are not the same thing. They don't follow the same rules. People don't expect the same things from them.

Name 5 good japanese actresses that speak fluent english, just to be fair that don't have to draw the numbers that Scarjo does in terms of ticket sales

>>80907615
Why is anyone giving this guy attention? He admitted his intentions long ago: >>80903125

>>80907619
Karen Fukuhara
Tao Okamoto
Steven Segal´s daughter
Relia
Devon Aoki

>>80907712
Do you mean >>80907522 or >>80907581?

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>>80907615
>No it cannot. Anime and live action are not the same thing. They don't follow the same rules. People don't expect the same things from them.
>There is no inconsistency because I never said anywhere that anime can't draw characters realistically. It just generally doesn't, and it's not something that can or should be expected from anime.
Holy shit, you're killing me here, friend.

>>80907762
I mean >>80907615

>>80907791
Are those two quotes supposed to contradict each other? Because they don't.

>>80907811
What? >>80903125 is not my post, it was a reply to one of my posts.

>>80907736
Literally nobody that anybody gives a fuck about. Tao Okamoto's last appearance was Hannibal season 3

>>80907811
Well, it actually is going on for hours now. At least he's dedicated, I guess.

>>80907864
You're not this guy: >>80903041

Last time I'm replying to you unless it's about GiTS.
>>80907912
He's only here because idiots keep giving him attention. The argument ended long ago with these posts:

>>80902462
>>80902553
>>80902644

>>80907912
Again, >>80903125 is not my post.

>>80907912
Grade A waste of space, but dedicated.

>>80907941
>You're not this guy: >>80903041
That's exactly who I am. That's my post.

>He's only here because idiots keep giving him attention.
Again, >>80903125 is not my post.

>>80907942
I'm not saying it is, that reaction image post just acknowledged what you're doing and could have been posted by either you or anyone, it really doesn't matter.

>>80907989
Acknowledged that I understood what game >>80902993 was trying to play? What about it? And why are you bringing this up anyway?

>>80908053
You're not really subtle is what I'm trying to say. Adios.

>>80908126
I should have explained >>80903041 in a more subtle way? Why?

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>>80902316
>I've seen fair-skinned, blue-eyed, blonde people all over
>Brazil

I lol'd heartily

>>80903791
t. White boi

>>80897181
Makes sense why /tv/ is so shit these days. People like OP have facial blindness.

There is no asian that remotely looks like Major on the right.

Anyone who has watched the anime also knows that her entire body is artificial except for the brain. The choice of race in the shell shouldn't matter.

>>80904435
Cause they thing anime is degenerate

>>80908619
Think

>>80908589
>There is no asian that remotely looks like Major on the right.
Even if that's the case, so what?

>Anyone who has watched the anime also knows that her entire body is artificial except for the brain.
Cyborgs still look like real people and have real nationalities.