"Why an Asian-American Iron Fist Would Have Genuinely Made

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>>80871166

Yeah, and a European-American would have made a better Luke Cage shot

>Katharine Trendacosta

lol.

Also, they should have cast an asian person as Iron Fist and made everyone else white. That would have been great.

>>80871166
If they casted asians then Iron Fist would have been praised more and gotten better reviews, there's no questions about that.

But it will just be circle jerking virtue signaling that Luke Cage and Jessica jones got irrespective of the show's quality.

>>80871166
why didnt they just get bruce lee?

If you change nothing else it would have been a piece of shit still. Same thing with JJ and LC

>>80871166
Why a white Luke Cage would've genuinely made it a better show

>"Why a Whit Luke Cage Would Have Genuinely Made for a Better Show"

Can't wait for this article.

shoulda been donnie yen

I'm not happy that Trump but I'll never pretend I don't understand why.

>>80871166

Am I the only one who thinks he looks goofy as fuck?

Nothing could have salvaged this. It's almost like it was intentionally sabotaged. I don't want to go full /pol/ but it's almost like the execs wanted this to fail in order to get this racebaiting backlash so (((Marvel))) can justify turning white comic book heroes into minorities in the future.

Bad casting all around, bad acting from everyone, bad writing, bad plot, the inescapable feeling of a super low budget, devoid of any style, bad fight choreography. You just don't get a perfect blend of everything being terrible without sabotage somewhere up the chain.

>>80871166
>He does kung fu
>He must be Asian!
Can these idiots not see the inherent racism in this statement?

>>80871166
>This, by the way, is one of the reasons that everyone keeps bringing up the scene in the first episode where Danny whitesplains martial arts protocol to Colleen Wing in her own dojo

This article is such bullshit. Danny grew up in a mystical monastery learning martial arts. He wasn't whitesplaining, he was commenting on her sloppy form.
But obviously, she is Asian, and therefore kung fu is in her blood! No way a white person could ever be better at kung fu than her, an asian.

>>80874677
I feel like it could have had a lot of potential if it had more time - especially for the main actor to get fitter and learn more martial arts; he does alright but it's very obvious in some parts that he needs way more practice

>>80874712
The modern leftist does not understand that holding two conflicting opinions is not logical (e.g. "cops are all evil racists who oppress blacks" and "only cops should have guns")

I also don't remember the left screeching about cultural appropriation when it was St Patrick's Day recently

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>>80871166
Why is "Katherine Trendacosta", a non-white non-man using the internet??? It was invented by a white man after all so only white men are allowed to take part in it! Also things like democracies and electricity are only allowed to be accessed by white men now.

After all, anyone else doing it would be guilty of cultural appropriation.

Oh and also all those African warlords currently taking part in slave ownership are also guilty of culturally appropriating Egypt and the Middle East

>>80871166
Nobody wants to see some asian beta pretending to be alpha. Not even asians themselves, when will these retarded liberals get hit by the truth? I want to see it

>>80871166
They should have hired a mixed race asian-white guy. Then everyone would have been happy

>>80871166
>dude I'm an oppressed white male lmao

Friendly reminder that Roland Deschain is being played by Idris Elba and he didn't have the self-respect to turn it down even though the character's whiteness is legitimately an important part of the both the character and the plot

The entire show was shitty

Just switching the guy who didn't write, direct, choreograph, produce or do anything but what he was told to isn't going to make it much better.

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But isn't Iron Fist white? So why in the fuck he should be turned into something else? Are these people completely fucking retarded?

Is it because he knows martial arts, is that why he should be asian? That if something is racist as fuck.

What little depth the character had would be lost if he was asian. The entire point is that he's a fish out of water

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>>80875277
Iron Man is a female black teenager but they whitewashed and manwashed her with Robert Downey Jr

>>80875319
this

he's literally never belonged anywhere properly ever since he was 10 - he didn't really belong at the monastery, but thanks to the monastery he doesn't belong back in his old world either

I think the real reason the Left hates him so much is because he was willing to work really hard to get what he wanted - such an idea seems ludicrous to them

>>80875359

Sure.
For a few more months and then Tony is back. Already announced.

And she currently shares the name already. With Victor Von Doom. We still have our white guy Iron Man and he shits on Riri.

>>80874712
it's especially stupid since originally he was a pure new yoker
The story wouldn't work if it was an asian guy who grew up in an asian country

>00' dude meet an asian in a movie
> Oh so you know kung fu ?
> Dude i grew up in New jersey but because i'm asian I must know martial art ? wow racist much

> 10' Dude i'm white and I know kung fu
> Wtf man only asian can kung fu

Thanks god Trump came

>>80871166
Taking into account westerners are better at martial arts than Asians, audible kek

>>80875401
>I think the real reason the Left hates him so much is because he was willing to work really hard to get what he wanted - such an idea seems ludicrous to them
That's really stupid. They're an outrage machine, but there aren't actually people that frown on determination, not even muh genetic fatspos

>>80874677
>execs wanted this to fail in order to get this racebaiting backlash so (((Marvel))) can justify turning white comic book heroes into minorities in the future.

I agree with you anon I felt this way too.

>>80871166
Is that..did they drag Rosario Dawson into this mess?

>>80875063
>dude I'm a white male that hates other white males dud lmao

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>>80871166
maybe io9 doens't like interracial relationships and that's why they wanted an asian man for the role

FUCK TRUMP AND FUCK WHITE PEOPLE

>>80874677
>it's terrible when it hurts my political agenda
And Ghostbusters was terrible because racist white men sabotaged it.

>>80874971
Internet was invented by Jews tho

>>80874677
>>80875519
Marvel has been doing this for years and publicly flipping the bird to anyone who criticizes them.
Why do you think a company would intentionally take a hit to their brand and (albeit unearned) reputation for making quality shit just so they can say "white men is why this failed"?
Hell, why do you think a company like Disney or Marvel would ever publicly take an anti-white stance?
You two are retarded.

>>80876253
>Hell, why do you think a company like Disney or Marvel would ever publicly take an anti-white stance?

I'm not sure, ask them. since they are.

>>80871166
Finn Jones was horrible as Danny Rand so I agree

Couldn't have fixe the writing

So it's bad to have all people of a certain type always be a certain race

but it's also bad to have people of another race be people of that type?

>>80874677

jesus christ you /pol/tards should all fucking kill yourselves. i don't know if you honestly realize how fucking stupid and retarded you sound.

>>80871166
the show lived and died on it's fight scenes, so the guy playing irno fist is actually irrelevant.

are they kill?

that's hardcore

>But sadly, as it is, we’re left with Danny as the least interesting Defender. Danny is going to walk into a room with a blind man, a woman, and a Black man, and think he is their savior. I hope they laugh in his face.
Slow your roll there coolio, am I detecting a bit of bitterness?

Rest of it is the usual "I don't care about the story or characters I just want to see a non-white person in a lead role" guff no matter how hard he tries to spin it

Most of the Asian looking chaps in this show have British accents.

Well the drunken fighting guy had some sort of weird cockney accent even.

>>80871166
"Why an Iron Fist That Actually Knew Martial Arts Would Have Genuinely Made for a Better Show"

fixed desu

>>80878634
That accent was great.

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>>80871166

>mfw I actually agree with the author of this article

You people are retarded.

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>>80877326

What turned me off ultimately isn't the fact that the main dude is white, it's that he's another fucking millionare orphan.

Fucking hell man.

I really hate chinklets and other gooks. Where the fuck do they get this idea that they're oppressed when they still have their culture, get into good schools and make loads of cash. They're getting louder and more obnoxious by ruining everyone else's fun.

>>80875031
>everyone

>>80871166
lack of east meets west

Any review or criticism that is about an actors ethnicity is immediately a waste of time and damages any legit issues a show or movie might have.

It's a basic review process.
Story, Acting, Pacing, Editing, Directing, Effects

That's what should be in review here. I should never see a reviewer using the word unwoke.

>>80880051
Look again. Its mostly whites and blacks that are making the complaints. Most Asians don't care.

Clearly the majority Asian cast didn't have issues with it.

>>80871514
You'd still have to keep the dojo girl Asian if you wanted a bit of realism.

>>80880051

Fuck you, you freaking redneck hill-billy. Don't fucking think that all Asians get into good schools, not all of them do, don't think that the Asians as the model minority myth applies to all of them. I've only ever gone to American schools where the English language is the dominant language and there are many Asians, or well in my case, there are many South East Asians who aren't smart or brilliant. As for culture, there are Asian-Americans who grow up whitewashed and have to grow up watching fucking negative stereotypes of Asians or see white guys appropriating Asian cultures. If you're talking about oppression, there are many Asians being oppressed by the North Korean government, even China would throw some of their own people into lao gai/gulag style prison systems, and don't forget when the Japanese Americans were sent into internment camps during World War 2.

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Ward did nothing wrong.

>>80871166
Piss off

>>80871166
Piss off racist

>>80871640
Bruce Lee is 1/4 white

Not a true Asian

>>80881168
He tried to make Danny eat a pepe, dude.

>>80877272
Now you're getting it.

>>80876831
They're practically there already. Just need to take practices and write them down in an official statement.

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>>80871166
I've got a brilliant idea for an Asian Iron Fist. wait for it.... Master Of Kung-Fu

>>80871166
>BAAAAAAAAAAWWWW WAYCISM IS BAD
What the fuck happened to 4chan?

>>80881707
People eat frogs all the time.

>>80871166
yes! lets yellow wash a character that always has been written as white and always will be written as white.

>>80877625
Isn't Iron Fist the strongest of the Defenders by an extremely large margin?

>>80871166
It would have made a better show because they would have chosen an actor who could actually fight.

>>80877625
>best fighter
>rich as fug
>most closesly connected to the plot of The Defenders

He is the hero if anyone is. That being said, it'll probably be DD/JJ since they're the only characters with personality and rumor is the two actors have great chemistry with each other.

I usually like io9, but you have to take their articles with a grain of salt.
Know going in that every article will fall over itself to say why straight/ white/ male/ cisgendered people are worse than any other option. Every character that's played as white should be another race. Every hint at a gay relationship is to be praised and advertised. Every person who doesn't say "gay/ trans people are better than anything" is to be demonized. And at every opportunity, they include a comment about "Trump's America."
For even more obvious libtardation, check out Jezebel, io9's sister site.

>>80871166
I honestly don't give a shit what color Iron Fist is, as long as the fighting scenes don't suck ass, which they currently do. It's like they completely ignored what made Daredevil work. It's a cheap cashin.

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>>80885084
>It's like they completely ignored what made Daredevil work
Agreed, lack of a decent villain really killed Iron Fist and is the reason why DD and JJ are so much better than LC and IF.

>>80874975
Yeah, we'd rather see some white beta pretending to be alpha.

>>80875277
Culture appropriation. You take the best part of a culture, in this case it's the cool martial arts, and give it to a white person as an accessory.

>>80879391
They didn't even read the article.

>>80871166
>make it about an Asian American
>a completely different set of SJW complain about about how Asian Americans are always cast as kung fu guys

You can't win.

>>80885385
>accessory
But it's not. It's the core of the character and a major part of his backstory and upbringing.

>>80881137
>white guys appropriating Asian cultures
I don't even understand why this is a bad thing. Isn't it a compliment and a sign of respect if whites take to Asian culture?

>>80885540
don't assume logic has anything to do with their arguments

>>80885513
Accessory as in it's just something that they use to make the white character seem cool. He's still completely white otherwise. So they take the good part and leave out all the parts they don't like, like being a gook.

>>80874712
I don't think you know what racism means, man. I disagree with the article, but martial arts has always been part of Asian culture

>>80885637
>He's still completely white otherwise
Okay? Then you just fall into "only Asians can do martial arts." What a story, Mark. BRB burning my gi.

Rand has a wealthy white background. His days in Magic China wouldn't undo that entirely. Whether the show handles it well is a different story, but that isn't, in my mind, sufficient cause to say an Asian-American Danny would be a narrative improvement. I'm not even going to deny that a more palatable Kung Fu story protagonist was the impetus for Rand being white, because it probably was. But motivations are one thing, the actual story is another.

>>80875135
That's new America for you liberal fucks shooting in the dark. I'm Mexican you think I was crying out hey make daredevil Mexican or Luke cage funk no danny rand is and has always been white

>>80884066
He should be but from watching the show I'm sure daredevil could have won those fights with half the effort

>>80875359
fuck off, faiza a cute.

>>80886471
Apparently this is how the totem pole of oppression works in the US. Ranked from those who apparently suffer the most to the bottom where they don't give a fuck about you.

- Straight cisgender white women are untouchable people
- Followed by straight cisgender non-white women who act as cheerleaders, allies, and pets
- LGBT. Doesn't matter what you ethnic or religious background is. (unless you're Milo Yiannopoulos)
- Straight cisgender black males
- Straight cisgender Latin American males
- Straight cisgender Asian males
- Straight cisgender white males (Considered the evilest of the evil by SJWs).
- Being Christian is an automatic red flag

>>80886665
It's like the gay dudes kissing in that new cartoon, no little kid asked for that kids don't care about that shit it was grown up queers boo hooing to the networks to be more open diverse, cartoons are for little kids leave it alone and then they say well they have heterosexual couples on cartoons yeah because that's normal understand being a fag will never be normal

>>80871166
I want to murder every faggot in that comment section.

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>it's racist that a white man who lived in a monastery for 15 years lectures an Asian woman from New York about Martial Arts

>>80887144
That bitchesJapanese karate sucked rands Chinese kung fu was vastly superior

>>80887144

Real world has turned into a satire.

And some people fail to see it.

>>80874677

You sound like a sperg.

Ward's struggle and Harold's pure evil were the best parts of the show.

But still, Danny was the weakest character in the show, which is pretty damning. It wasn't the acting, it was the writing.

>>80887227
Punctuation is your friend you might be surprised how confusing you sound hope you learn from this

>>80871166
They should've just stuck with the revenge plot line like in the comics.It's fucking impossible to give a shit about Danny when he literally just does nothing for half the show. If it worked for Arrow, it would work for this pile of shit

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>>80871166

>>80887975
>Punctuation is your friend
Says the man who needs to learn to use commas.

>>80888064
They should have never made Iron Fist, especially with Arrow season 1 being just a few years earlier. Choose a better fourth defender Marvel.

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>>80875135
What you mean you dont like that a Clint Eastwood esque character is being played by a britbong nigger now? RACIST!

>>80871514
>Trendacosta

Looks like Trenchcoat

>>80888193
That's the joke.

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>>80889351

danny rand is a guy who goes around talking about kung fu and buddhist philosophy at every fucking opportunity
he sounds like a dork and a nerd the every time
in this respect, it would probably play better to have a guy who is at least half-asian

>>80889411
I'm so glad i'm not from a flyover state.

>>80871166
like i said on /co/
these days quality is being measured by diversity quotas
this is fucking ridiculous
not even Jackie Chan and his stunt crew on their prime would've made the show any better

>>80875779
>>>/tumblr/

>>80871166
I'm Asian and I don't really care if Iron Fist is Asian or not.

What I care about is good acting and fight choreography. Finn Jones cannot do either.

>>80877326
Argument status:

[ ] argument
[x] not an argument

>>80871166
>ITT peopel dont get it
characters like danny rand, and movies like the last samurai their whole point is to introduce a a foreign culture to another, do you think anyone would have given a shit outside of japan if the last samurai was a fully asian movie?

>>80871166
I mean, it could have. Honestly, he reminded me of Hayden Christensen in the prequels more than anything else. "Lol I'm a child who never grew up but i'm also an emotionless monk killing machine this is conflict right? this is how you make characters?"

Unfortunately, the writing was also prequels-tier.

Fine with him being a white guy, although I think they should have focused more on what a dork he is walking around talking about chi and shit. Portray him as like a coffee shop hipster stuck up type.

>>80885540
>>80885591

An example of cultural appropriation would be the casting of the live action Dragon Ball film in which they chose a white dude as Goku, instead of choosing an Asian-American. Dragon Ball, which is Japanese, is loosely based on the Chinese literary text, Journey to the West. I guess this is an example of cultural appropriation.

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball_(manga)#Relation_to_Journey_to_the_West

Another example of cultural appropriation and of whitewashing would be the live action adaptation of Avatar: The Last Airbender. The Nickelodeon cartoon series, Avatar: The Last Airbender, is based on East Asian and Indian cultures and the characters are Asians. But the casting of the live action adaptation chooses white people as the lead characters. That is until the production company and the studio decide to cast Indians as the villains, even if one of the villains has to go through the heroe's journey and eventually becomes a hero. But the thing is, the villain was originally supposed to be played by a white actor, and the studio only changed the casting because of the backlash. So with the live action Last Airbender film, you have white people in Asian garb doing Asian martial arts, that kind of sounds like cultural appropriation and white washing.

https://www.flowjournal.org/2009/08/fan-protests-cultural-authenticity-and-the-adaptation-of-avatar-the-last-airbenderpatricia-nelson-flow-staff/

http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Influences_on_the_Avatar_series

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>>80886636

>>80874677
Wrong.

You might as well have made this post before it was released like all the other bad reviews

Great show all around

Loved it and look forward to Season 2.

>>80875512
>>80875512
They actually do, go to /fit/ fph threads for>>80875519
examples.

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All my female friends and coworkers say Danny & Coleen make a cute couple, I dont think a ramdom muscle karate guy would have made such an impression with the female viewers of the show.

>>80892337
>muscle

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>>80875416
>Marvel finally gets the rights to Dr. Doom
>they make him black

It would have actually been better if the Asian knew how to fight. How the fuck do you make a martial arts show where the fight scenes are the worst part?

>Liberals: race doesn't matter! ....unless you're white!

And the irony is the main character was established as a white guy long before the show

Just remember folks, liberals hate white folks as much as KKK members hate blacks. There's no difference in their behavior.

Liberalism truly is a form of mental illness

>>80892857
>making a villain black

Top kek, do you even know what the current year is?

>>80871166
To be fair, I think a lot of this has to do with the actor actually used in Iron Fist looking like a cuck.

Iron fist is good if you don't take it seriously.
It's one of the funniest shows I've seen in a long time.

>still crying about this shit when no one took them seriously in the first place and viewers enjoyed the show despite the biased reviews

Will social justice faggots ever stop losing?

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>>80892957
>Dr. Doom
>a villain
Confirmed for never reading comics.

>>80893139
They've pretty much guaranteed an 8 year Trump presidency.

>>80892928
>comparing anoying sjws from twitter with a terrorist group that has killed inocent people (including many whites)for more than 100 years

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>>80893143
Dr. Doom is a meme villain, fug off /co/

>>80877625

I like how the writer boils the characters down to the only thing that matters to him. Really activates the walnuts.

>>80893260
FBI.govshiws that violent racist crimes are committed by blacks on a far greater scale than anything done by those white hooded idiots.

Let's face the facts. Blacks have been waging a race war on whites since the 1960's

>shoehorn blacks into white roles to be edgy
>shoehorn white celebrity into asian roles because they are famous
Am I allowed to hate shoehorning in all its forms? Or do I have to pick a side?

>>80893260
>but it's okay when we do it!

Liberals, folks

The level of hate is still the same. Same type of behavior.

>caring at all about race in TV shows
SJWs and /pol/ are two sides of the same coin.

>>80893550
You can only hate it when it's white folks being put into non white roles.

In every other instance you must applaud it otherwise you're just a hateful racist white biggot.

I don't like it in any form. The right person for the right role. But hey, that's none of my business

>>80871166
So the show was good after all.
It's just anti-white racists triggered by the ethnicity of the lead who gave it bad ratings.

*sips tea*

>>80893597
I might agree but this type of behavior only serves to create more Trump supporters, so things are definitely not in balance as you imply.

Every time a liberal lunatic writes an article like this, even on something as seemingly innocuous as a tv show, they are driving another nail into their own way of life

The political pendulum swings pretty hard here in America. There's no balance. We're headed for at least a ten year swing right

I thought the whole point of multiculturalism was to share culture with the world so why is it a problem if a white guy does martial arts? I wouldn't be mad if an Asian guy boxed or played football or some shit

Also he does kung fu so shouldn't he be Chinese if anything, not just an "Asian guy" that's pretty racist to lump them all together like that.

>>80871166
Bitch doesnt even aknowledge previous yellowashing like asians in asgard

>>80890444
Maybe go back to your continent with 4 billion people and it's own massive film industry where all the actors are asian.

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>>80871166

>>80893260

>black on white hate crimes don't exist because they are not reported as hate crimes

How convenient to be a libtard.

>>80890444
>Dragon Ball, which is Japanese, is loosely based on the Chinese literary text, Journey to the West. I guess this is an example of cultural appropriation.
Except that goes in the wastebucket by the time of Z where Goku is a Saiyan; an alien race. Also the Dragon Ball world has nothing to do with the real world so there are no Asians there.

>>80893700
We've been on a right swing since 2012.