When will see the steampunk genre getting the attention it deserves

we did. "Wild Wild West" and "The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen".

this is why steampunk is now the preserve of cosplayer cleavage and neckbeards who know someone who can lathe bronze.

>>80824218
>>80825858
i'm willing to tolerate stupid ideas for the sake of the aesthetic most of the time
but there's something about steampunk that makes me internally angry. i don't know what it is. i don't care if you're a dweeb and you like machines and fantasy. but there's something about it that seems incredibly lazy to me.

>>80824218
Hopefully fucking never.

>>80824218
We already got 9, that's okay by me.

>>80825992
I think I can understand that, to an extent. It's an aesthetic that's so broad that it could be literally fucking anything, yet everyone wants to do the exact same look with the exact same colors and the exact same quirky British attitude.

I mean, cyberpunk can get away with that because at it's core there's a message there: The world's gonna become an overcommercialized technological fascist hellhole, so why not run with it. Steampunk, it's just really really bad historical revisionism.

That's not to say I don't find steampunk entertaining, but yeah it's a bit samey.

if steampunk is all about machines powered by steam does that make cyberpunk all about machines powered by cyber?? lmao sorry just weed thoughts!

>>80825992
Because half of steampunk cosplay is "spraypaint it bronze and glue gears to it."

Cattlepunk has more potential thanks to Westworld and Logan.

>>80825992
Steampunk is truly a lazy setting and its very narrow minded in its design, unlike cyberpunk which can be very broad with its design. Its always just "throw some gears and steam valves on to it and call it a day". Its shit.

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>>80825992
it's a thing. it's an image, something that i would have thought would be a good one-off idea. Gibson and Sterling did it reasonably well with "The Difference Engine". i don't know why it went any further.

someone tried to kickstart "Biopunk" as a genre and it failed dismally.

>>80826218
dude we like totally need weedpunk where the future is powered by stoner ideas! we could get Rudy Rucker to write the scripts, he writes like a substance abuser!

>>80825992
It's tacky.

Machinery is a deliberate science. Good sci-fi design might be stylized and have a complex of extremities all over the place but they're there for a purpose

A cartoonish amplification of something like this mostly just looks gross.

On a side note, jerking off over old things for the sake of being old embodies fedoraism and in the case of Steampunk they're basically romanticizing an era where you worked in a cotton mill from the age of 12 so you could afford to eat a can of salted whale fat. It's retarded and if they'd grown up then they'd think it's horrible and probably be romanticizing some older generation

>>80828870
A Rudy Rucker adaptation will be lika a math hard version of Naked Lunch.

Naked lunch crashed so hard 25 years ago you still can hear it.

Dont bet on it

If the concept of Cyberpunk is High tech, Low life then whats Steampunk?

>>80827953
Steam punk could have been good if not for fanboys pushinh something modern then calling it steampunk for no reason is disgusting.

Isn't Mortal Engines getting an adaption?

>>80830147

A gay robot in a gay sci-fi universe gets a makeover that makes it even gayer.

Heraclitus was right. I'm going to the mountains and eating herbs.

>>80824218
>steamshit
>not cyberpunk
Off yourself

You'll have your generic hollywood director who'll get the idea of doing a film based in a steampunk universe and realize half way through the filming that he forgot that just having a cool universe doesn't mean you have a good story

In nowadays hollywood, a meme fantasy universe has 100% chances of being shit if turned into a film.

>>80824218
Steampunk will never be good until retarded fedoras stop thinking

>PUT BRASS PIPES AND COGS ON IT

makes for a good universe.

Honestly the only people I would ever trust to make a decent steampunk movie/book/anything would be mechanics or engineers because it's brutally obvious that nobody else seems to grap how machines and steam power actually work.

>>80831475
this tbqh

>>80830123
low tech low effort

>>80825858
*turn bronze
Fixd

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This was fairly recent

>>80831220
Yeah
Jackson is vaguely involved (I think writing, along with others, and producing). He's been wanting to do it for a while - i.e. before the Hobbit disaster - so that would suggest that he's actually interested in the concept and I think it could be pretty good.
It covers YA market, steampunk, strong female protagonist who is actually interesting, environmental questions and above all the concept is pretty neat. I remember reading the books in my teens and really enjoying them, so I'm quite hopeful. Not a big fan of steampunk, but the world that was created in the books was really engaging so it didn't matter.
So long as they don't decide to retitle it "Hungry Cities" for the Murricans, I think it will be fine.

>>80824218
>the attention it deserves
None?

>>80831220
>>80831956
Worth reading? Never heard of it before.

Johannes Cabal is a steampunk book I've enjoyed recently, to return a recommendation.

Hard Sci Fi and cyberpunk deserve more attention before steamshit

>>80831804
>hollywood
>bbcamerica

Everyone who likes Steampunk is a manchild.

Think about it, you know it to be true.

>>80831683
I kek'd.

>>80824218
It already does.

>>80825992
Steampunk is purely a concept created by and for Cosplayers. There's not one piece of 'steampunk' fiction that actually centers on the 'punk' such as Cyberpunk does.

>>80826948
>cattlepunk
That's literally just Westerns

Or is that the joke

>>80831995
Yeah it's really quite engaging. The concept sounds a bit silly at first (cities are now these massive vehicles which go about "consuming" each other for resources) but the characters are all really well-written and I'm hopeful that it'll transfer well to screen, so long as it's not all greenscreen shit.

Why does steampunk attract the audience it does? You know the type of people I'm talking about.

Dieselpunk>Cyberpunk>Whalepunk>Shitpunk>Steampunk

>>80832258
>literally memesteampunk on top
Nice try

>>80828843
>someone tried to kickstart "Biopunk" as a genre and it failed dismally.
To be fair, I imagine that biopunk is incedibly difficult to pull off with diving straight into horror. It's hard to put a positive spin on something like a jetpack made of flesh propelled by farts.

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>>80832386
>Biopunk kino:
Videodrome
ExistenZ (and others Cronenberg flicks: Dead Ringers, Brood, Shivers, Naked Lunch)
...what else?

>>80833403
Does Farscape count?

Also, it's not kino, but I'd say that Half-Life counts as biopunk.

>>80832226
Two words;

Thrift shops

>>80831220
It is, but Mortal Engines isn't really steampunk. Especially when there are people talking about the other 'punk' labels.

>>80830147
This is why I bomb people

>>80825992
We get it, you like Sam Hyde

cuckpunk when?

>>80832057
A bit of both. The good thing about the genre is its fantastical approach on leather, iron, and gunpowder. Tricked out pistols, weaponized horses, and dynamite.

>>80825992
It's because it isn't a genre or anything, it's just people taking something from the 18-19th century and putting a lot of bronze pipes on it

>>80834314
nope
steampunk = retro-futurism + post-modernist approach on past utopias + (urban) fantasy

science fiction is the fedora of genres and steampunk is the fedora of science fiction

you are objectively not cool if you think steampunk aesthetics are cool

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>>80834498
>science fiction is the fedora of genres
What does that even fucking mean.

>>80834498
>science fiction is the fedora of genres and steampunk is the fedora of science fiction
this desu
Steampunk is terrible but it's just an outgrowth of a mindset that's pervasive throughout people who obsess over science fiction

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>>80834669
>but it's just an outgrowth of a mindset that's pervasive throughout people who obsess over science fiction
What does that even fucking mean?

when you find out there's actually a genre of music that is done with steampunk, it actually
makes cosplay people look normal in comparison

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeEI-hh3MG0&list=PLrbpGkWjd4Wt4cmBH1JJSx9D_t4qfUchZ

>>80834725
>>80834568
you're not a real person

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>>80834789
WHAT DOES THAT EVEN FUCKING MEAN.

FUCK.

>>80825992
I hate Steampunk cause it does nothing with the setting. It's all lords and ladies having sky ship adventures when it could be 'punk' as fuck since it's set during one of the worst periods for the proles. Fucking nerds man they don't got a interesting bone in their body

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Dieselpunk has it worse. All that cmoes to my mind is Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow, Talespin and Disneys Atlantis.
At least all three are good

>>80831683
Made me laugh out loud

>>80834802
I created you with my godmind
you are a solipsistic indulgence in obnoxiousness pisswicket man
die

>>80831804
source is Doctor Who I guess?

>>80831998
And we're going to be getting a lot of it soon with gits and bladerunner. If they do well expect the cyberpunk fanbase to become just as obnoxious as steampunk, with stupid kids only being able to grasp the aesthetic without the themes

>>80835080
name a single common cyberpunk theme that is even vaguely hard to understand

>>80834498
>he takes memes and coolness into consideration when chosing what to read for pleasure in the privacy of his own home
embarrasing. steampunk is shit though, will give you that

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Empire of Corpses.

A hybridization of Steampunk and Biopunk.

Basic premise is that it takes place in a universe where Frankenstein has a happy ending; The monster doesn't go insane, people recognize it for it's scientific merit, and people celebrate him for reviving the dead. After that, everyone is creating zombies for manual and mental labor by literally hacking their brains to create organic computers. All while on the cusp of World War I.

It's got its flaws with plot progression, fujobait, and a retarded ending. But it's an interesting direction in both genres regardless.

>>80825992
>>80824218
Steampunk is all the worst aspects of comic book super heroes thrown into a 19th century setting

>>80833403
we haven't had a movie of Blood Music yet. except for the twinkly "Childhood's End" finale, it'd be pretty good.

>>80834931
>I created you with my godmind. you are a solipsistic indulgence in obnoxiousness pisswicket man
I can deal with that. I've come to terms with my incorporeality long ago.

>die
But you haven't even answered my first question!

>>80835112
Aside from basic shit like extreme technological integration and urbanisation, theres the question of artificial life and as >>80826108 pointed out, the authoritative, or corrupt government; high tech, low life

>>80834426
shut up, faggot

>>80835419
really gets the almonds ablaze

>>80831804
This is so fucking stupid

>>80831804
This is quite possibly the stupidest thing I have seen in a long time.

>>80835183
>Empire of Corpses
sounds cool desu

If Nintendo can't make it work Hollywood can't either.

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>>80835543
Forgot picture

>>80833718
It's officially labeled as such, even if it might not really be steampunk.

>>80831475
Cyberpunk is fucking garbage too, faggot.

>>80835112
Ciberbrians anon
>CIBER
>BRIANS
Who's a robit anon, Who is a robit?
>ROBITS
>WHO NOWS

The only fandom more neckbeardy than Warhammer 40k is Steampunk.

Fuck off, fag.

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>>80835183
So it's a Japanese sequel to Young Frankenstein?

>>80836097
Ish.

Less comedy, more drama.

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Leave Steampunk to anime, where the ideas won't be questioned as much

>>80824218
Iiterally reddit: the punk

>>80836319
>watching anime

>>80825992
Because fans of steampunk only care about aesthetics. They just love all that bronze and cogs, they slap them on everything!

They don't actually depict a realistic world where steam is still relevant, they just create the same boring futuristic setting where everyone wears 19th century clothes for whatever reason and use modern technology that looks "retro" because it's bronze and has a bunch of cogs slapped on them

>>80836319
It's still fucking dumb, it's just easier to ignore

On the topic of anime kino, I feel Miyazaki does the steampunk genre a lt of justice. He does a lot of justice to antiquated machine design.

>>80824218
The Wachowskis (regardless of how much you like/dislike them) make genre-specific sci-fi with every release.

Sadly, they are Cyberpunk not Steampunk.

Once all properties of the 80's and 90's have been given failed remakes/reboots, you'll see Hollywood try to pander to the Steampunk crowd.

>>80824218
I want to kill faggots like this. Can you imagine how much money he spent on that stupid fucking costume? He's like in his '30s, too. I just don't GET shit like this. I like to read a lot, I have a lot of stupid pointless interests too, but I don't deck myself out like I'm a character in a fiction like some delusional fucking child

Cosplay is fucking WEIRD to me. I don't like that it's becoming mainstream, there's something seriously wrong at the heart of it.

Steampunk really puts me in a bad mood. There's something about steampunk (and also Dr. Who) that in my opinion sucks the dignity out of life. I wish I could audibilize it better, but there it is. I feel about steampunk the same way I feel about fast food. I think its disgusting, and if we're really going to be pigs with no standards then why don't we all just kill ourselves.

>>80824218
It already is. It's getting none which is what it deserves

my idea of steampunk is airships, floating islands, bronze, steam, gears a movie in this setting would be cool tbqh, but it has to have something going for it other than aesthetic

>>80839262
>fucking stop it REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
fuck off faggot

i bet youre a muslim

>>80839262
>Cosplay is fucking WEIRD to me. I don't like that it's becoming mainstream, there's something seriously wrong at the heart of it.
It's Halloween but for adults and not restricted to a single day. What's so odd about it?

Unfortunately at this point Steampunk has gone full-Reddit destroying any coolness it once had.

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I just want a Perdido Street Station series

>>80839801
Thats the problem, it doesnt, its just cyberpunks shitter cousin. Cyberpunk already does the class divide stuff much better than steampunk ever could

>>80833918
Lol only someone who had the book would get that, MDE fag.

>>80839901
it was never cool

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>>80836319
I don't understand why Japanese anime can produce better Steampunk than Hollywood by an absolute mile.

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>>80840166
Maybe they could try to go with a bit more of a fantasy setting with the steampunk aesthetic.

>>80840987
Because it's a cartoon?

>>80825992
I have the exact same feeling about Wizardry 8

ITT cyberpunkfags still mad their favorite scifi genre is dead, and that based steampunk is still thriving
https://youtu.be/211LNk5vnJM

>>80841268
>based steampunk is still thriving
>thriving

Steampunk is not thriving at all. Mortal Engines may kickstart something, but it is not thriving at all.

Meanwhile Cyberpunk has actual presense, though it's not big it's certainly bigger than than Steampunk. KYS.

>>80841268
>still
it never thrived

It barely exists outside of convention cosplay

there is also no conflict between "things with punk at the end."

>>80830123

Low tech With hipster stashes

>>80834498

You need to take that a step further:

>Science fiction is the fedora genre
>retro-Style Science fiction is the fedora of science fiction.
>Steam punk is the "m'lady" of retro style science fiction.

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>>80824218
I was actually writing a practice novel taking place in a steampunk fantasy universe for a little while but just got bored of it. The setting itself doesnt spike much inspiration beyond its visuals, and I was just trying to go with the flow instead of having any plans ready for it.

The protagonist (Guckenheim) was basically OP's pic but a rusty cyborg that narrates his fights as if they were a movie. The opening chapter took place within a giant centipede train going through the countryside. Although the "twist" was that Guckenheim is also a personal "slave"/ sex robot and he only fantasizes about being a superhero.

>>80824218
I remember channel surfing one time and stumbled onto this. I couldn't stop laughing my ass off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUjG1HSSaGI