how long until other countries can standup to America's

>>80732253
Other countries do not have a movie making industry ran by jews.

Have you never thought it curious the French nor the Japanese (people who have been long making better movies than the Americans) have no multi-billion dollar movie industry?

Can someone post examples of Korean or Japanese standup?

>>80732308
Have you never thought it curious the French or the Japanese don't have the economic and political post-war power of the United States?

>>80732364
So you are saying the movie industry literally runs the country? Got'cha.

Have you ever thought it curious that both the french nuwave and golden age of Japanese cinema were both after WWII?

>>80732416
>So you are saying the movie industry literally runs the country? Got'cha.
How dumb do you have to be to come to the opposite conclusion of what I was implying?

>>80732308
>Japanese (people who have been long making better movies than the Americans)
opinion discarded

>>80732364
France is the 7th (or 6th) richest country on the planet. It also does have a film industry, the original guy was a retard.

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>>80732416
>critical acclaim is what makes an industry powerful

>>80732457
I literally have no idea what you are saying senpai. As you know, the times when the Japanese and French were making the films we are talking about was explicitly after WWII.

By all means, explain yourself.

>>80732464
>he thinks America make actual good movies
Go on, name them. So I can laugh at you.

>>80732311
Koreans still only understand slapstick and physical humor while Japan literally does not even have the concept of sarcasm. Their comedy has a long way to go until they develop stand up.

>>80732308
You should really take a look at modern Asian cinema in general, it's all pretty trash except for a few rare gems.

>>80732465
Talking around me is just sad.

>>80732535
>I literally have no idea what you are saying senpai.
That the reason Hollywood is so dominant is because the 20th century was dominated by America economically, politically and therefore culturally.

>>80732308
>>80732535
Why are you confusing quality with popularity?

>>80732535
Metropolis

>>80732253
India's and China's already do, of course they are only catering to Indians and Chinese but there are about 2.2 billion of them combined so they'll be fine.

Hollywood is still really desperate to break China. They gave up on India long ago, besides the Indians make too many movies anyway.

>>80732535
>Go on, name them
Batman V Superman

>>80732253
After the world starts learning Chinese.

>>80732559
And Modern Hollywood isn't? I don't think you understand a thing about modern asian cinema. The Asian flicks you see on TPB do not constitute "asian cinema". I mean, straight up Korean Porn has a higher IMDB rating than many actual American "films".

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>>80732657
>IMDB rating

>>80732570
Kek, this makes no sense, since you know, Hollywood is only now reaching target audiences outside of America, surely has nothing to do with, you know, Hollywood accounting.

>>80732602
Really now?

>>80732632
This was actually okay.

My local Cinemark theater plays a korean movie and a indian movie every month.

>>80732689
>implying The Handmaiden isn't spammed and praised here
Kek, you can actually make an argument, you know?

>>80732253
"The difference between cinema and, say, poetry or music is that cinema requires capital in order to produce masterpieces. You can write a wonderful poem on a piece of paper, but you can't make a wonderful film without tens of thousands of dollars of equipment. Thus it is not surprising that cinema "discriminates" more than other arts between rich and poor countries."

From the main man Scaruffi himself

>>80732720
>Really now?
It's a fucking masterpiece Anon.

>>80732311
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWDXlsPQkYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTT59a9R7K8

The second guy was a huge meme for a while, I think most of the videos were taken down though.

Either way, their comedy is pretty simple.

>>80732720
>>Kek, this makes no sense, since you know, Hollywood is only now reaching target audiences outside of America, surely has nothing to do with, you know, Hollywood accounting.
Honestly, I have no idea what you're trying to say at this point.

>>80732831
Yes, a German one.

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>>80732308
>"people who have been long making better movies than the Americans"
>he actually believes this
>mfw an American was being dumb near me

>>80732535
>Go on, name them.
Citizen Kane

>>80732416
>this guy doesn't know FNW and post-war Japanese cinema were heavily influenced by classic Hollywood
Average /tv/ poster everyone

>>80732868
It's pretty fucking simple senpai.

here, let me spoonfeed you since you apprently have no idea, yet you still want to argue.

>jews running America's industry known as Hollywood use fake accounting, known as Hollywood account (it's real, look it up) to inflate the popularity of their movies, to avoid paying contracts, to movie money around and receive tax breaks for doing so

>>80732657
>And Modern Hollywood isn't?
We're not talking about Hollywood though, we're talking about Asian cinema - which is pretty bad.

>The Asian flicks you see on TPB do not constitute "asian cinema"
The most seen and profitable films in Asia do constitute Asian cinema, however. Monster Hunt was a fucking riot in China, but it's more bland than our capeshit. The highest grossing films in Japan are either foreign or anime. Only South Korea has a list with anything decent.

>>80732876
No it's not, give me proof

>>80733073
You can't be serious?

>>80733016
>Hollywood's massive worldwide popularity in the entirety of the 20th century is all because of shady accounting practices
You should stop posting at this point, this is beyond embarrassing.

>>80733110
yes. How could Germany even make a film on that scale? They were going through a serious economic depression

>>80733072
>we're talking about Asian cinema - which is pretty bad.
You were the one who restricted it to "modern asian cinema" you fucking idiot.

>The most seen and profitable films in Asia do constitute Asian cinema, however. Monster Hunt was a fucking riot in China, but it's more bland than our capeshit. The highest grossing films in Japan are either foreign or anime. Only South Korea has a list with anything decent.
Kek. Case in point. You do not know asian cinema, you only know the western styled asian movies to be aimed at china and the west.

You are literally comparing capeshit at this point, and saying which has the better industry. Hollywood at this stage is only making SJW pandering shit, and capeshit. You literally have no idea what the Asians are making, because you do not see actual Asian cinema.

I mean, you've literally said South Korea is the only people making anything worthwhile, they make porn, literally only fucking porn, Handmaiden, is porn. As porn is illegal in South Korea they have to go to any means necessary to make any porn they can, these pink films are the result, go to pornh*b and search south Korea, look at how may actual movies are there.

You've actually got no fucking clue what you are saying.

>>80733016
Don't you think the success of Hollywood has more to do with English becoming the global lingua franca?

Even Africans use basic English when communicating within tribes. Which means they're going to flock towards English movies because they can understand them.

>>80733286
Language has no basis on artists relevance. While it probably makes for a larger audience (business language of the world and all) I don't think it's the reason why, exactly.

>>80733216
Why isn't it?

>>80732253
Probably never now that we're starting to see backlash against SJWism. Make Hollywood great again.

>>80733416
Why isn't what

>>80733355
>artists relevance.
You think the average pleb cares? All they want is kiss kiss, bang bang.

>>80733355
>Language has no basis on artists relevance
>muh black and white French speaking European art house films tho

Good one 'kino connoisseur'

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This is why.

>>80733451
Yeah and that's the point, when Hollywood rose to relevance, arguably during the 50's-70's it wasn't the plebs who were going to the movies.

Even today, people don't mind watching subtitled movies, it's just very hard finding a movie which they are willing to watch subtitled.

This shit drives me insane on a fucking daily basis. The second you mention non-english to people who only want to sit on their phones while they listen to a movie turns their brains turn off. "social media" ruined everything.

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>>80733523
>when Hollywood rose to relevance, arguably during the 50's-70's it wasn't the plebs who were going to the movies.
People then were just as retarded as they are now, anon.

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>>80733246
>You were the one who restricted it to "modern asian cinema" you fucking idiot.
So why did you start talking about Hollywood? Do you even know what you're saying or are you just spraying shit onto the screen?

>You do not know asian cinema
So, the most viewed and most profitable movies in Asia aren't 'Asian cinema'? Are you actually retarded?

>You literally have no idea what the Asians are making
Pic related. Wow, you showed me. The Asians really have us beat with such hit films as 'Assassination Classroom' and another round of live action anime. The average Chink or Jap doesn't care for the artistic shit you revere as 'Asian cinema'. You're sperging out over a handful of directors because they treat films as a form of art, but that's not exclusive to the Far East.

>because you do not see actual Asian cinema.
The list of highest grossing films in South Korea has pretty much all South Korean productions. Compared to China and Japan, that's noteworthy.

>they make porn, literally only fucking porn
Kill yourself. Watch any Chinese game show and 9/10 times it's inspired by something from South Korea. Even when it comes to trash entertainment, they have the rest of Asia beat.

Stop talking about porn holy fuck, do you have an erection or something?

people have shit taste. don't read anymore, can't enjoy anything but trash. doesn't matter the country. hollywood is best at making crap tho

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>>80733599
I was going to reply, then I released you are a fucking retard who literally has no idea what he is saying. I was going to give you some modern directors who could help you change your mind, but why should I? Your mind is already made up.
Hell, you are writing off Asian cinema as Japanese. Says it all.

>Stop talking about porn holy fuck, do you have an erection or something?

Pic related, Korean 'movies' sorted by release date, how many do you think are porn? This is the Korean movie industry you are holding to a high standards while shutting down Asian cinema as only a few "standouts"


I am eagerly waiting your next reply. Just incase you forgot, you;'ve still got no fucking clue what you are saying.

>>80733592
People had some semblance of taste then, I hope.

>>80733832
>HAHA I could make an argument right now! But I won't!
K

>Hell, you are writing off Asian cinema as Japanese.
I can only post one picture per post, you know that right? I've already mentioned Monster Hunt which was massive in China and their tendency to copy South Korea entertainment, what more do you want? Their list of films is even more egregious than the Japs'.

>This is the Korean movie industry you are holding to a high standards
Not high standards, just better than their neighboring countries. My whole point to begin with was that Asia has a shit film industry.

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>>80733896
Not really, they enjoyed dumb action movies and sappy melodramas about as much as today's folks.

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>>80734055
>compares asian everything to korea
>korea has them beat in everything
>i-i-am not holding them to a high standard
Sure.
>he is actually still going
>after my earlier reply
Literally, why? I already know you are an ignorant piece of shit who wants to be contrarian, why bother making things worse for yourself.

Strobe edge is a literal anime adaptation with better cinematography and camera work than any modern Hollywood film.

>>80734096
A fistful of dollars would be a dumb action film of the 60's. Story is not the only aspect of film making, but its the aspect that has taken the forefront in modern movies, and no one can write a story for shit anymore.

>>80732308

Jews must be pretty talented to make films that have global appeal.

>>80734220
>writes paragraphs about why Korean entertainment is bad
>keeps bringing up Korean porn
>"why do YOU keep talking about Korea?!"
I mentioned that their highest grossing films are all Korean, they're not as diverse as Japan or China's. You're spouting so much shit about South Korea, you come across as one of those enraged Nips from /int/.

>Strobe edge is a literal anime adaptation with better cinematography and camera work than any modern Hollywood film.
>his favorite Japanese director shilled out and made live action Anime
>he's still trying to defend it
Hilariously pathetic. This is your amazing Japanese kino?

>>80734441
>Hilariously pathetic. This is your amazing Japanese kino?
This is your argument? Literally from ignorance?
Good shit, glad we came this far.

>I mentioned that their highest grossing films are all Korean, they're not as diverse as Japan or China's. You're spouting so much shit about South Korea, you come across as one of those enraged Nips from /int/.

Senpai, you wer the one who bought up Korea, saying you know anything about them, saying Asian cinema (not korean) is only a few standuts, which is korean cinema in a nutshell, 10 movies tops worth viewing, the rest is porn, something you now know, something you didn't know before. You wouldn't bring up korean movies if you knew anything as koreans don't make movies, they make pink films. Pink films are literal soft core porno. I keep bringing up south korean porn because you keep mentioning south korea as some golden standard.

Do you even understand majority of the acclaimed Japanese cinema canon is now public domain, meaning you do not have to pay to watch them, meaning of course there will be no more money in them, they are free.

You are comparing a product that has to be bought, saying it's making more money than products which are free.

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>>80734441
I am >>80734566

You understand if I were to use your logic of grossing films = better films you are essentially saying pic related is the best movie of all time.

>>80734566
>This is your argument?
You wrote it for me. Your esteemed director made live action anime, it's trash. He might be a great guy, but it's indicative of how fucked up the Japanese film industry is. That even someone so respected can do such shit. Now imagine all the other directors who aren't even half as good.

>yet another paragraph about South Korea
Thanks for proving my point.

>you keep mentioning south korea as some golden standard
I don't have any love for the South Korean film scene, it's just not as bad as what gets made in China or Japan. You can sperg out about a handful of Japanese directors, but it doesn't matter. The vast majority of films that people there watch and consume are trope heavy romances, anime adaptions, and other awful shit. It's like someone on /tv/ trying to argue how great Western films are because of David Lynch, when he's clearly in the minority.

>>80734685
I'm not saying they're better films, but that they comprise part of that region's film industry and cinema.

Yes as much as you might hate it, Avatar is now a significant part of Western cinema and history. So is everything Marvel shits out. If you only examine the best productions from each area, then you're not getting a proper perspective on what their industry really is.

>>80734441
Korean flicks are pretty shit my nigga.

>>80732308
fpbp
Japan and France make so much better movies than America.
At least in the last 20 years that is.

>>80732464
He's right though, americans make terrible films

>>80732253
As a Korean, all these people gushing over our movies these days piss me off.
They're too long, terribly edited and full of clichés.
But I guess at least we're not China.

>>80734836
>You wrote it for me. Your esteemed director made live action anime, it's trash. He might be a great guy, but it's indicative of how fucked up the Japanese film industry is. That even someone so respected can do such shit. Now imagine all the other directors who aren't even half as good.
Kek. I thought I was arguing with someone who understands how cinema works.

>>80734950
So then we can agree, both modern asian cinema and modern hollywood cinema are in the same state as shit, but France and Japan have always been making better movies than the Americans, glad we can agree. And you also do not understand actual asian cinema.

I am actually arguing with someone totally ignorant of a subject, willing to input his own opinon while disregarding someone else, all the while not even attempting to cure your ignorance.

I mean, you can actually try, you know?

>>80735177
>I thought I was arguing with someone who understands how cinema works.
You're the one who doesn't know how cinema works. You're doing the exact same thing everyone does when they sperg about the Asian film scene. You take a minority of good films and artistic directors and then insist they're indicative of the entire region. The daily threads about the Handmaiden did the same thing

>Oh wow Korean cinema is amazing!
>What else have they done?
>Aw.. not much really, most of it's pretty shit
>Korean cinema is still great though!

I'm not saying Hollywood is great - far from it - bu you can't separate out the live action Anime adaptations just because you don't like them. Any modern analysis of Western cinema will have to include all the Marvel shit, as bad as it is.

>>80735390
Bro, you are arguing out of pure ignorance and you are not even shy about it. You are literally saying the fact that it is an anime adaptation means it's cinematography, camerawork and editing is therefore shit and simply cannot be good.

it's just not logically coherent, because you are arguing out of ignorance, you can go on all you want.

but I mean, you've admitted it, you have no fucking clue what you are saying.

I didn't read your post, I simply say my (you). Keep going.

>>80735165
you're right its so full of cliches.
but at least your people are pleasing to look at. also i really like your historical dramas for its production value. was really impressed with Jewel in the Palace (i don't watch kdrama but my wife really oves them, got me hooked at jewel, made us visit island 3 years ago)

>>80733246
>only people making anything worthwhile, they make porn, literally only fucking porn, Handmaiden, is porn

jesus christ you are such a prude.
>calling a movie porn because it has 2 sex scene in a 2h45min movie

>>80735261
>France and Japan have always been making better movies than the Americans
Not anymore, at least in Japan's case.

>And you also do not understand actual asian cinema
>actual Asian cinema
Actual Asian cinema is what they produce. Stop cherry picking what you like and leaving what you don't.

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>>80735485
Erotic films are as close as Koreans are allowed to come to porn.

See>>80733832
>Pic related, Korean 'movies' sorted by release date

>>80735518
>Stop cherry picking what you like and leaving what you don't.
You mean exactly what you are doing via writing the whole industry off because of Monster Hunt?

>>80735518
This. If you are saying Asian cinema. Does that include India and The Middle East?

>>80732253

their cultural power is shitty compared to america. japan has a little vidya and anime but when you move out of cartoons nobody gives a fuck about the japenese as a people. and koreans are just a low rent mix of japan and america.

>>80735572
so not porn then? also
>having sex scene turns movies into porn therefore it should be disregarded as a good movie

>>80735454
>Strobe Ejji
Looked up the plot, exactly what you would expect from an anime film and it got a 6.3/10. Wow, impressive.

>>80735653
Learn geography.

>>80732253
((((((((Rappler))))))))

The Philippine Buzzfeed/Vox

>>80735721
All well and good, except my argument revolved around the cinematography, camera work and editing, which of course can make a great movie, as it did with Strobe Edge.

>judging a film off of someone else's review
Kek. I know that's what I am doing, but all I am saying is check it out.

>>80735710
It's explicitly porn. Because as you know, porn is outlawwed in korea and this is the extent of their porn.
>porn is not porn because there is no insertion
That's not how it works in some Asian countries.

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>>80735598
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_films_of_2016

Wow The Monkey King 2, amazing.

>>80735732
Go back to school.

>>80735806
>I am saying is check it out.
If I can find it, I will.

But it's one film and it doesn't change the landscape of the Japanese film industry by itself. Even really great Anime adaptations aren't something to aspire to. Much like in the West, there should be more originality and less sequels and adaptations.

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Its all about money. If other countries had the finance to power high budget movies they can easy stand to America's movie industry.
Almost every country can produce good actors, scripts film makers etc. its all about the money tho to power the machine..

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Japan still has long ways to go to be on par with Western works of art.

Never.

English is the language of commerce and it translates into film.

Have you ever tried to whisper in Mandarin or Cantonese? Never going to happen you twat.

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>>80735809
You understand the way you are arguing just makes you look more and more like an ignorant fuck wit, we get it, you don't kno what you are saying you admitted it over and over, why are you still going?

>implying you've seen Operation Mekong.
Why bother?

>>80735922
>Have you ever tried to whisper in Mandarin
Is this meant to be difficult?

>>80733216
There wasn't any depression in 1928. It was the peak of Weimar golden age. The depression started in late 1929.

>>80735958

They're tonal languages. Tone is extremely difficult to pronounce when whispering.

>>80735940
>here's why this film industry is bad
>BUT NO LOOK AT HOLLYWOOD AGAIN

Are you capable of understanding that I can argue why, for example, Chinese entertainment isn't very good without simultaneously saying that Hollywood is superior? I dislike the majority of both and so would most people on /tv/.

>>80736047
>here is why the film industry is bad
>posts image with movies you haven't seen
see? You are a fucking idiot senpai, you've got no idea what you are saying, you keep saying it over and over, I am actually having fun with this, you know?

Like seriously, what are you even hoping to achieve with this argument, it can go nowhere form here. You are posting images with good movies in there which you haven't seen and writing them all off. As you haven't seen them.

>>80735908
What a shitty list delete this pls
>game of thrones and atlas shit in literature ?
>interstellar boyhood movies
>dragon age the last of us games
and so on what kinda shit tier bullshit is this

>>80736201
You understand that image is a meme meant to trigger newfags such as yourself.

Lurkmore.

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>>80736139
>you can't have an opinion if you don't watch every film from a country!
Yeah you can. I've seen enough films from China to say most of them aren't very good. They're incredibly unoriginal, relying on using sequels or rehashing old Chinese stories again and again (like Journey to the West, Romance of the Three Kingdoms, etc.). The brief flares of uniqueness come out of Hong Kong, which has slowly become more and more dull. (Three Ip Man movies, really? Technically four if you count the more realistic one)

The directing aspires to be like the Hollywood standard, not for originality. It's incredibly unambitious and it reflects the way Chinese people consume entertainment. That is, it's meant to be easy and very superficial. That's why action films do so well over there and anything with a deeper meaning is reserved for state produced movies. They enjoy watching the same set of character arcs over and over again, because they've been formalized through their literary heritage. (Roguish thief learns he has a purpose, ashamed master regains his honor, boisterous hero is really the good guy, etc.)

You can write a similar comment about Hollywood films - I don't have to watch every Marvel movie to know they're not good. You don't know that my shit tastes bad, just try it and see if you like it. You're a fucking idiot if you don't.

>>80736234
nice try your taste is still shit

>>80736479
Kek, holy shit dude. Ignorance is truly bliss.

>>80732253
>not best korea
literally the kinoest films

>>80736480
Please lurk more before posting you cancerous faggot.

>>80732253
Asians might be able to make Transformer/Capeshit blockbusters. But they'll never be able to make a movie of substance. All Asians (especially South Koreans) are soulless.

>>80736577
go read atlas shrug faggot

>>80736514
>weebs are incapable of reading and logical thought
Don't know what I expected

>>80735806
>Because as you know, porn is outlawwed in korea and this is the extent of their porn.
so you are just assuming without any facts then. fyi there are erotic films from other countries that have legal porn.