1 Year Anniversary

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>>80684593

About the same. I love it.

My opinion is still that you cape-fucking-shits need to leave

>>80684593
I realize now that it was shit. I used to think it was the Kino to end all Kino, but then Iron Fist happened and saved the white race.

>>80684593
and i'm still in this same shithole. where did all that time go?

>>80684593
Is it, dare I even imply it, /ourkino/?

>>80684593
I still dislike this movie a lot, and still feel it's boring and lifeless.

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>>80684706
Lol

All capeshit is the same shit, this is no different no matter how much you memelords try to meme it into Kino.

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>>80684593
I pirated it and still haven't watched it

>>80684832
You are in this hell forever, anon.

>>80684593
above average capeshit, entertaining

only hated because Trump won and because they hate powerful white men saving the world like IRL

>>80684934
same here, my virus checker said it was a trojan so i deleted it

watched it 9 times so far. gonna marathon it again next week

i don't even remember what happened in it

i was given the blu ray as a gift, i tried to sell it on ebay but couldn't so i tried to give it away, but no one wanted it.

>>80685044
Same

>tfw my friends and I know have watched BvS so many times that we know some parts by heart and use them in our daily normie lives
Why is it so quotable lads?

>>80684593
Watched it last night. Still love it.

>>80684832
Yes

>>80685131
I don't know, but you sound like normie scum
>>/out/

>>80684832
Duh

>>80684832
i'm not a spic or a person of color so no

>>80684593
it's pretty much the fine wine of capeshit. It just keeps getting better

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>>80684701

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>>80685169
You don't know the half of it

I'm legit nostalgic for those threads where we all watched the RT score, posted Evans and bullied DC fans.
Those were good times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYKeQczkFfM

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>>80684593
I didn't forget.

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>>80685131
>Mom, the Red Capes are coming! The Red Capes are coming!

>>80685276
I laughed all day

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>>80685206
are you..
stepping up, capetourist?

>>80685131
>Why is it so quotable lads?
There's nothing quotable or memorable about it, go fuck your friends faggot.

>>80684593
all the CNN shit ruined it, so fucking stupid

>>80684593
It's the first movie I've seen in a long time with so much going on that it's taken me a full year to feel like I've uncovered every last little nuance and detail.

I started off on the fence about it. I've ended up loving it. It even increased my appreciation of Man of Steel, which I initially felt much the same about.

>>80685343
IT'S FROM THE COMICS
IT CANNOT BE STUPID

>>80685276
The times they are a-changing huh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxrC-DSG3oQ

>>80685357
it's so dense

>>80685357
its so deep with meaning its like the Bible

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I love it. A high point of an otherwise unremarkable genre that refuses to step out of its comfort zone. Snyder did good pushing the audience in a new direction for superhero films.

>>80684593
WHO FUCKING CARES

CAN ADMINS MAKE A FUCKING /capeshit/ BOARD PLEASE

>>80685276
what happened with evensposting?

it was such a beautiful thing, and it burned out so fast.

>>80684593
Should've just dived in deep with the 3 hour cut.

Watching the 2.5 hour cut now I can see the problem. I hope now that SS got nailed with the same shit that WW and JL are released uncut

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>>80685664
It was around for suicide squad too

>>80685664
Evans ousted himself a major cuckold during the election.

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>>80685682
Does 2.5 hours mean two and a half hours or two hours and fifty minutes?

>>80685664
A few shills got exposed and Evans had a breakdown after the election, so the whole meme became toxic.

>>80685883
would you take "2.75 hours" to mean 2 hours and 75 minutes?

>>80686058
But his >>80685682
only goes to the tenths place.

>>80684760
underrated post

Singlehandedly exposed the intense Disney shilling present not only on 4chan but social media in general. BvS made a lot of people afraid.

>>80685276
>>80685664
it was literally just one autistic sri lankan who posted that

>>80686119
fair point

>>80684593
watched it on a whim few weeks ago, and it was appalling. Worst executed death of a main character I've witnessed in any medium. After two hours they simply spawn this new allien out of nowhere, and he's there somehow a match for suparman. Absolute trash of a film.

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>mfw shills are now crying about SJW critics because Iron JUST got cucked
top kek

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>>80684593
Same opinion on theatrical cut, it was like it book missing random pages making it a jumbled mess..
The ultimate cut makes it watchable, making it go from a 4/10 to a 6.5/10. After reading analysis on it and understanding the symbolism, I bump it up to a 7.5/10 in my opinion.

Futrue wise, I think DC is missing the boat by assuming this movie was too dark instead of realizing the theatrical edition sucked because it edited too much. Ironically, why suicide squad sucked, it was trying to be too "XD" and ended up an even bigger mess with the editing problems.

>>80684593
I don't change my opinions on a film just because two or three stupid shits pretend to like it. Peer pressure is a terrible way to review a movie.

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I don't know about the movie, but now I know the whole /x/ tier thing in 2013/2014 about mexican teenagers/memers from some facebook group ruining this board was true.

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>>80686458
Those were false flag threads, you know that right?

>>80686458
Now that's what I call shitposting

>>80686391
The extended cut wasn't any better, yo.

>>80686549
Do you have proof or are you one of the posters of those threads? I've noticed since that image started making the rounds those threads have died too.
>>80686599
It's marketing much like you're about to see soon for Episode 8 with stuff from 7 and the prequels being spammed over and over

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>>80686709
I actually was on some of those threads and they were basically evanposting from the get go. Notice the OPs are basically bait while the actual DC/WB shilling is more about forcing discussions about the movie and the OPs tend to be long rants about the symbolism and shit like that.

Also similar bots got exposed on twitter
https://www.cosmicbooknews.com/content/batman-vs-superman-twitter-spambot-smear-campaign-discovered

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>>80686891
Wait a minute, so now actual discussion of a film is "shilling?" Discussing a film's actual symbolism and themes is not forcing a discussion. It's talking about a film on a fucking board devoted to that purpose.

>>80686891
You do realize all the images you've posted have different filenames whilst this >>80686458 is all the same? Are you actually one of these Warner shills now trying to do damage control?
>Also similar bots got exposed on twitter
We already know about the bots and have since star wars 7 and disney using them for boycottstarwars7

>>80685131
>MARTHA!!! SAVE MARTHA!!!!

man those quotes really make you think

>>80687170
>bots have use the same filename and shills don't
Oh shit does this mean that little girls wasn't going to shoot me warm piss in that jacuzzi? Fucking newfags I swear to god, also what about this >>80686549?

>>80687250
Only two people were present when that was said - one of them was under a tremendous amount of psychological stress and the other one is (temporarily) dead. I think we've all got a surprise still coming.

I'll love it. You'll hate it and call it damage control, ignoring how it is perfectly in keeping with everything we know about Bruce Wayne.

Such is life.

Was disappointed in the theater but loved the ultimate cut

This movie changed my life.

>>80687532
same here it was so bad i stopped watching all movies

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>>80687368
>Oh shit does this mean that little girls wasn't going to shoot me warm piss in that jacuzzi?
Are you implying OPs and fucking thread replies are the same thing you shill? and you have the fucking gall to call me a newfag
>what about this
>thread replies
>different posting styles
There are 3 posters there

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>>80687532
Me too, man. Me too.

>>80687626
Oh wait you're not a shill you're a fan of this flick that's being shilled which is why you claim otherwise.
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/80390782/#80401738

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>>80687817

>>80687626
You seriously don't know about bots on /tv/. You seriously don't know about the bots that only make OPs, all with the same filenames, the most notorious being the cunnybot.
>different posting styles
Fuck right off shill

What's hilarious to be is how butthurt people are about this movie.

One year later and people are STILL talking shit about anything even remotely attached to it and can't move on.

Take this review about the Power Rangers movie for example
> If not for Elizabeth Banks, some dinosaur-shaped mechs, and the fact that everyone keeps saying the word “Zordon,” this would hardly seem like a Power Rangers movie at all; even the iconic, color-coded spandex suits have been turned into hard plastic nonsense that looks so dumb and lifeless that Zack Snyder might as well steal it for “Justice League.”
http://www.indiewire.com/2017/03/review-power-rangers-movie-bryan-cranston-elizabeth-banks-ludi-lin-rj-cyler-becky-g-naomi-scott-1201794992/

>>80687900
>You seriously don't know about bots on /tv/.
Where does it say this?
>You seriously don't know about the bots that only make OPs, all with the same filenames,
Where does it say this?
>the most notorious being the cunnybot.
Where does it say this?

You're only reading bits of the post to hide that you're in favor of these warner shills. I know exactly who the cunnybot is and his real tripcode that isn't "mr jade"

>>80684593
It's a collection of great shots searching for a story.

>>80688049
Different guy here, but as someone who's actually analyzed this film to the best of my admittedly limited ability and participated in discussion with others on both sides of the aisle, do you consider that shilling?

>>80688165
If you think BvS is worthy of analysis you're obviously a shill.

>>80688215

Shill spotted.

>>80688165
It's exactly the type of tactics that were used for Dredd 2012. The only difference being that Warner didn't need their boys to beg people to buy the bluray/itunes copies when the home release came out.

>>80684593
I thought it was good at release.

then i saw the extended cut and realized it's one of the best capeshit to ever be produced just after man of steel.

>>80688049
You said
>Are you implying OPs and fucking thread replies are the same thing you shill?
When I already told you than one you found is clearly a bot (>>80686458) and what I found were shills (>>80686549) so no, I wasn't implying that, I was implying that even if the false flag bot, which was also exposed on twitter, was authentic, the real threat are disney shills. And to conclude I also told you that those threads made by the bot were false flags because the DC shills, if they aren't masochistic DC fans, don't make threads like that, which you would know if you weren't a shill yourself/a fucking newfag

>>80688277
>The only difference being that Warner didn't need their boys to beg people to buy the bluray/itunes copies when the home release came out.
I should make this more clear, begging people to buy DREDD not BvS

>>80684593
It's still shit lol

I can't be bothered to watch it a second time

>>80688312
>When I already told you than one you found is clearly a bot
If it's a bot then why isn't the posting consistent like every other bot we have here?
>and what I found were shills
As stated here >>80687626 those are 3 different posters. The image.jpg spammer has been also confirmed (before your time clearly) that shitposts not only that, but cuck shit and the likes too.
>which was also exposed on twitter
We're on /tv/, not a ghetto site for niggers.
>the real threat are disney shills
Again you're proving to be you're either a shill or as stated here a pleb fan >>80687839

>>80684593
future cult classic.

people will be taking back their words in a few years when people finally realize the genius of this film.

>>80688258
Nah, that's not a shill. That's an intellectual snob with an over-inflated sense of his own intelligence.

Guys like him are proof-positive that it's entirely possible to be educated beyond one's capacity.

>>80684593
I liked the theatrical cut and loved the ultimate cut. So I suppose my opinion only improved.

>>80688539
>The image.jpg spammer has been also confirmed
>image.jpg spammer
Y-you know about phone posters right?

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Just in case you've wandered in here from the front page, everyone calling this a good movie is trolling.

>>80684593
I changed my mind after watching the directors cut, its actually pretty great.

>>80688706
Yes, but theres only one guy constantly spamming threads like this, cuck stuff, and a few other movie related things that he likes with image.jpg. Every other Apple spam on this board is now img_XXX

I pirated the ultimate cut or whatever is it called. Honestly, it's bad. It has some good moments dont get me wrong, but for the most part the writing is shit, some performances are absolutely terrible and the kinematorgraphy is hit and miss.

>>80688870
And since you are obviously not a shill, and you know about phoneposting, you are aware than in this >>80686549 all image.jpg and the other filename posts are from the same shill, right?

>>80688984
is this bait?

>>80688789
>how dare someone have an opinion that differs to mine!

>>80688990
I've already told you what's happening in that image here >>80687626

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>>80684706
>>80684652
>>80687250

>>80688919

>>80689066
No, the critics and audience agree.

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>>80689141
Also how about we apply your logic to another confirmed shill. The difference being that all filenames are the same. Space, style and format of the posting is all the same too.

>>80689176
>someone else also validates my opinion
so?

>>80684593
I thought it was kino since my first watch.

>>80689496
u mad marvelcuck?

I like how the brand war has been entirely manufactured by false-flagging and no one with any sense takes it seriously.

>>80689066
Why would it be?

>>80689793
It took me to about the halfway mark before I realized that I'd been watching it(and in retrospect, MoS) from the wrong angle.

>>80685664
The candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long.

>>80689896
that's wrong though

DC is taken a lot more seriously by film experts. they provoke thought and discussion.

while marvel panders to liberals and cucks

>>80690053
>comment how the brand war is fake
>someone immediately tries to claim it isn't with falsehood

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>>80685664
There was one particular Evans autist who embarrassed the lot (it was proven that he was also a depressed cuck and pedoposter). Also let's not forget Evans being a closet fag with a leaky butt who went full SJW after Trump won.

>>80688789
So am i trolling myself if i thought bvs was good?

>>80690036
It also burns you twice as bad.

You have no idea how much joy it brought me to see the whole lot of "cuck"-spamming dipshits fall silent when their posterboy was outed as one of the selfsame whiney "libcucks" they hate.

>>80690759
so what type of autism do you have

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>tfw I was there the day capekino was born

http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/67496353/

>>80690792
The kind that enjoys poetic justice. In other words, a perfectly normal human bean.

>>80684593
What would Roger Ebert say about this?

>>80690953
misunderstood masterpiece.

the amount of autistic vitriol in these threads is pretty confusing

>>80690953
Thank god he died before he was forced to sit through this shit. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

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>>80690759
>Being this mad

>>80685558
Because it literally copy the story of Jesus and his acceptance for and from the world he lives in, the justice league are his apostles, it have themes of good vs evil he battles the devil in the end, ect

>>80690884
That was not the day capekino was born. Faggots had been spamming "you will witness the Dawn of Capekino" threads for a few months (maybe it was only one month) before the movie actually released.

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>>80684593
For months I found it drawn out & exhausting. I watched it recently & it hit me: this should've been 2 separate movies "Batman Vs Superman" AND "Dawn Of Justice". After they blew their load with the 'Martha' incident [the logical end to BvS], no one had any the energy to be interested in Batman & Superman's partnership, Wonder Woman or Zod + Lex = Doomsday, which would've been more palpable as DoJ...

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>>80691215
>Being this busted

Fuck every last one of you for derailing discussions and discouraging any sort of actual conversation among fans. Immature fucks like you shat all over threads and then cried about "hug boxes" when people ignored you. Just so you know - that uncomfortable silence that ensues on occasion when you enter a room. go ahead and call being ignored in those situations a "hug box," too.

What you call a hug box, the rest of us call a polite way of trying to convey, "Shut up, kid. Your elders are talking."

>>80690282
He's a shill what did you expect?

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>>80691937
>M-Muh politics
Keep crying DCuck

>80692298

It's your hero that's crying. All over Twitter.

Twitter, for Christ's sake. Maybe you should go check yours. He might hit you up to borrow your butt plug for his leaky ass.

>>80692509
Are you the chloecuck?

>80692555
Not even close.

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>>80692509
Why are DCucks so easily triggered?

>>80684593
Besides the ending fight and luthor it's actually a masterpiece, hard to believe the critics treated it so poorly

>>80692602
Just saying, the chloecuck uses the same quoting style.

Im not the cuck you were responding to btw, i actually loved bvs and enjoyed the discussions here before all the shitposting

>>80692644
Lex luthor was great though. I do agree about doomsday; they should have saved him for later and just had batman either kill or atleast beat supes

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>>80692644
half agree, making luthor into a whiny millennial anti-theist is a great idea, it's just not all that well executed.

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It's pretty safe to say at this point that BvS is /ourmovie/

>>80692730
It's the retarded use of the non-word "cuck" that gets me.

On top of it not being used properly, it's being used by people who don't even seem to realize it's a transliteration of a Spanish(specifically Mexican Spanish) slang word/insult that doesn't translate all that well to begin with.

So yeah, word to the wise: re-purpose words with the awareness that it can and does make you look like dumbasses to others.

>>80692978
sup shill
https://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/filename/%201485292138651/

>>80693054
>>>/reddit/

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>>80693123
congrats man, you've figured out i defend BvS a lot

>>80693123
sup marvelcuck

>>80693135
Fuck off, dipshit. I've been here longer than you. Guaran-fucking-teed.

Of the two of us, I'm probably the only one who's been around longer than the internet.

>>80693184
a real shill too wow
>>>/co/90604060

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>>80693464
You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

>>80693464
>congrats man, you've figured out i defend BvS a lot

>>80684593
This is a fucking meme like baneposting.

Good job on pushing it this hard, I guess

>>80694051
It wouldn't be a meme if it was just a bad movie. It's fun to meme about because it's a movie that actually tried to be higher art but is severely flawed. BvS has some pretty low lows but also some really high highs, better than anything Marvel has done. The reason /tv/ connects so greatly to BvS is because it's so far from the formulaic fodder that gets shoved down their throats with every MCU release.

I like this movie. Great Man-kino of the super hero variety

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>>80693054
Cuck

only saw the UC

First 2/3rds are pretty good but the entire last act shits the bed. What makes it worse is that I like the plot beats and they only needed to tweak or add some scenes to make it not feel forced.

it's a 6/10

>>80692644
He's an all around better villain than Tom Waits' Joker. kek if TDK Joker is Tom Waits who would BVS Lex be?

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>>80693054

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es good movie

>>80695163
I get chills just thinking about it.

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>>80695163
Was the goal to make this part look like an epic painting?

>>80695816
compositionally it's a really good shot, I don't think there's any arguing that

>>80695163
I get thrills just thinking about it

>>80690953

There is no way he'd enjoy it. I mean, he didn't even live to see MoS. Still BvS and MoS are fairly different. BvS insults the audience too much. It doesn't explore its characters enough. He would probably enjoy parts of it for sure. Maybe like 2/4 stars. No way in hell he'd give it 4.

>>80696022
Going on Youtube on Reddit seeing what fans are I am glad you fags felt insulted

>>80696108

did you reply to the wrong post?

>>80684593
I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS FILM

is it any good? is ben affleck actually a good batman?

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>>80696382
i consider it perhaps the best film in its genre, and ben affleck is a great batman.

>>80695816
>>80695849

It's fucking beautiful.

>>80696231
Sorry. I used fans and audiences interchangeably.

I thought it was shit and I still think its shit. Not trying to start a capeshit war here or anything but pretty much all of DC's films in existence are trash. The only good ones are TDK trilogy and everything else is mediocre or absolute shit

i would forgive alot of the issues i have with this film if they just fixed one thing; focus

film is so concerned with setting up the justice league and other sequels. As a reader of comics love the idea of cinematic universes, because alot of the fun of comics is seeing all your favourite heroes collab and work together but here it just doesn't feel earned.

I was hoping they would go the marvel route and give every JL member their own solo flick before the justice league. Now that its fucked I just don't even care for WW or JL.

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>>80696382
I thought Affleck did a hell of a job. 60-plus years, of Batman on the big screen, and he's the only one I've ever found intimidating.

>tfw a demon saves you
>tfw it's still here

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>there will never be a crazy even where Rorscach and Batfleck and Comedian share the screen

>>80697202

Oh, so you're retarded. I was commenting on what Ebert would think. That's a phrase Ebert used in some reviews. Carry on being retarded though, its serving you well.

>>80697252
the only real problem with the film is the forced JL stuff

you take that out the film is pretty much perfect

>>80694140

>Better than anything marvel has done.

Not even a marvel fan and i disagree heavily, even the fox x-men films movies are better than these terrible films/commercials

>>80696382
The film is a hit or miss, i personally think its awesome. Affleck batman however is goat without a doubt

>>80693184
BVS is an 8/10 movie.
No shame in defending it against the quip seeking redditor

>>80684593
I dunno it seemed half baked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbgf5BC_s-4&t=9s

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>>80697445
all other batmans were like comic lines drawn by different writers bringing their own interpretation..
Batfleck might be the closest to what an old man version of mainstream batman maybe

>>80684663
this

>>80685883
This is the kind of shit that keeps me coming back
Ily anon

Holy shit this thread sent the Marvel Pakis on suicide watch.

Greatest superhero film of all time. Once you watch it, you'll realize that the MCU is a joke in comparison intended for kiddies and Big Bang Theory fans. This is why Marvel shills are on constant shitposting mode. They fear BvS.

>>80702457
You could also realize that the MCU is a joke just by watching Daredevil 2015. Jeph Loeb >>>>>>>>> shit >>>>>>>> Kevin (the cuck) Feige.

>>80702457

To be fair, most marvel comics are pretty damn campy and the films emulate the vibe of said comics quite well. And the winter soldier is a legitimately cool film. And as predicatable as they are, have some pretty creative action and for the most part avoid spectacle creep.

BvS was horribly paced, edited, relied to heavy on franchise building not to mention ugly. I'm not trying to say the avengers was a masterful work of art or anything, but that at least had a consistent tone, simple but well paced structure and was solid in every facet.

If the nolan trilogy showed us that you can take a comic book character and do your own creative spin to get new takes on them, then the marvel films are taking actual comic panels and putting them on screen complete with the campy silliness that made people read them in the first place. It's like people bag on marvel movies for being too much like silver age comics.

watched it 4 times already. Love it more each time. Added it to my kinollection.

>>80697445
>Jessica Henwick is in BvS
I did not know this

>>80703052
You'd have to be the biggest marlel shill to think MCU has any creative action scenes.

Warehouse scene in BvS >>>>>>>Steven Seagal>>>>>MCU action scenes

>>80703052
I guess anything that isn't a quip-riddled CGI mess is poor pacing to Marvel cocksuckers. Go back to Twitter shill. Your heroes Evans and Whedon needs you there.

My all-time least favorite superhero movie. Utterly joyless and dull. And the Doomsday fight? Worse than any of the fights in Bayformer movies.

>>80689496
So one guy making fun of Marvel with the same webms is a shill but the same three guys spamming the same evans pics with the same filenames are perfectly fine /tv/ posters right? How transparent can you guys be?

>>80703745

Yeah, seeing batman fight normal goons in a warehouse arkham style was so damn new and creative...

then i look at the battle of new york, tohr vs iron man, the elevator fight, ant man vs yellowjacket, the final "fight" in doctor strange, airport battle, rescuing the air force one hostages etc.

Now don't get me wrong these films are definitely not the greatest, but i walked out of most of them pretty damn entertained. It's not even just marvel studios either; the damn fox films have better directed action these films.

>>80703780

I'm sorry, but do you not recall the doomsday fight? literally the worst CGI to come out of any of these superhero films, had terrible attempts at comedy and was just tonally all over the fucking place? Not to mention doomsday as a whole is just a fucking retarded character from an incredibly overrated superman comic. Comic fans would agree. Doomsday is literally everything wrong with comics in the 90's.

I love how they made such a big deal with these two going at it, when avengers did this shit in the first 20 minutes and arguably way fucking better.

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>Excellent Batman arc turned to shit.
>Excellent Superman arc turned to shit.
>Within a single movie.

How the fuck.

>>80703949
>Yeah, seeing batman fight normal goons in a warehouse arkham style was so damn new and creative...
It was the best action scene in a major blockbuster in the 2010s though. Of the scenes you mention the only one that's not objectively bad is the elevator fight on Winter Soldier (the only MCU movie with decent action) and even that is a rip off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_v2zUJu2qo

Liked the theatrical version, but loved the extended cut.

Theatrical 7/10
Extended 9/10

You have to be blind not to see the substance in every shot, the nuances, the allegories. It really seems like pottery.

>>80703780

No, but anything that isn't superman being a little bitch or batman being an unreasonable cunt is nice.

And no, the batsuit looks fucking atrocious, he looks like a gross veiny hard on that grew legs

>Your heroes Evans and Whedon needs you there

Sure, at least those films are decent and have actual characters that are true to the comics

I mean fuck me even the lego batman film understands batman more than whatever the fuck snyder shat out with this one.

People hate what they don't understand.

>>80704017
>the best

Absolutely not

>>80684593
Genuinely convinced that this movie will be considered the worst (high budget) movie of the decade.

It has everything, histrionic performances, terrible script, obnoxious product placement, laughable cgi fight scenes and, the most important thing, is pretentious up to a ridiculous degree.

>>80704257
Couldn't agree more.

>>80704017

>The best

daredevil season 2 had better fights

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>In this age of petty Marvels, most comic-book movies merely perpetrate fantasies of power, but Snyder, enacting his personal aesthetic, braves a film that examines those fantasies. He boldly challenges popular culture’s current decay. Man of Steel was a magnificent, hugely satisfying response to what’s often missing in pop culture, and Batman v Superman raises more ideas without (yet) resolving them. An attempt to invoke other superheroes from the DC Comics stable, starting with Wonder Woman (Gal Gadot, accompanied by tribal drums that recall Snyder’s overawed feminist fantasia, Sucker Punch), ultimately goes unfulfilled. And Snyder, obliged to placate the Marvel hordes, lets a couple of fight scenes devolve into Avengers-trite turmoil.

I remember having mixed feelings on it when I walked out of the theatre. I think what really hit me was seeing people in the theatre, clearly who have no knowledge of the DC universe being either confused or bored during the key scenes. When the flash showed up I noticed

Say what you want about the general public being tasteless sheeple but this film really did just expect people to buy into this DCEU shit without earning their trust with a decent film first.

The funny thing is that it's really just comic fans or film buffs debating the quality of these films. While the rest either don't care or were just confused about something not worth being confused over. People behind me just wanted the movie to end by the time doomsday showed up.

>>80697445
that's my favorite scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--oi-vdBFoQ

I think it would've been a nice touch if the rookie saw the bat differently than the veteran cop

>>80684593
still like batfleck and kinda don't like anything else

>>80704426

>The way he scurries along the roof


christ this film is terrible

>>80704017

I love die hard, yes and that scene is great

But it's great to super soldier in the same situation. With more than double the bad guys, and some judo takedowns and taser sticks

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>>80704347
>Is it possible to make a full review of a shitty movie completely ironically? from start to end?...

>Armond: look and learn... "In this age of petty Marvels, most comic-book movies merely perpetrate....

Good movie, certainly this is same situation than Iron Fist where a decent capeshit has glaring flaws but a lot of good stuff too and get trashed for agenda reasons. Maybe it's that I'm burned of the quipfests Marvel (movies) shit out, but I don't get the over the top hate on this. It could do without half an hour though of the runtime though

>>80704532

Agenda reasons? this film just sucked bro, no politics about it

>>80704566
Iron Fist too, embarrasingly so, but it was still entertaining enough. Not saying it's a masterpiece but much better than a 25%

Nah, was extremely appointed, Which sucks because the first was at least okay and my expectations weren't high but man did they fuck this one up. And i'm not hard to please, christ I even liked iron man 3 and a couple of the x-men films.

Just watch the lego movie if you're hungering for a DC film that respects the legacy of the batman

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>>80684593
It's still as shit as it ever was. It's cathartic seeing that just about fucking nobody is excited for Justice League because at this point, catharsis is the only logical response to what a spectacular let down the DCEU has been. We're finally getting a Justice League movie this year and I'm actually kinda dreading its arrival.

How the FUCK did we get here?

>>80705032
>king kong trailer on youtube
>literally all comments asking for a JL trailer
>king arthur trailer on youtube
>same thing
>the teaser has over 60 million views in just two channels, more than the trailer and four teasers of GotG2 combined
How can people be so out of touch?

ass

>>80704455
Snyder can't do horror.

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>>80705168
Can't find em bro, you memin or what?

>>80704257
>pretentious up to a ridiculous degree.
This is the key imho, many worse movies out there, but none so fucking pretentius.

>>80705220
It's a word that gets thrown around a lot these days, but if there's one positive thing I can say about BvS, it's that it reminded us what it really means to be pretentious. It seems to think that it's the very first superhero movie anyone's ever made.

>>80705220
>>80705278

Embracing a lot of the underlying themes of comics heroes instead of gutting them does not make a film pretentious. If you find those themes to be so, you probably don't much care for Unbreakable and Raimi's second Spidey movie, too.

>>80691524
>The world only makes sense if you force it to
Literally autism "logic", no sane person will think like that, the world make sense if you understand it only

>>80691937
There is no conversation in circlejerking, you deny any criticism and flat your ego in comparing two hero with ancien myth as if these figures have never made parallels with the obsession of men with heroic tales

>>80692644
eisenberg bring the best performance of the movie and that is not a compliment

>>80694140
You always compare it to marvel to try to refute any criticism, you can't defend this piece of shit on its own merit.

>>80707158
Not true, it's just that the good parts of the movie looks even better when taken the context of the sad SAD state of the genre into the discussion. The bad parts of the movie are likewise affected.

>>80697634
So you have to deny the bad parts of the movie to find it good ? Pathetic

>>80704512
Marlel literally on suicide watch. How long have you been samefagging this thread?

>all that subtle Marvel shilling
These Pakis keep ousting themselves harder and harder.

>>80703745
Shit, you praise the movie for its epicness that it draws from old mythos with a classic story of redemption and good vs evil, man against monster or powers and you talk about creativity ? you can't assume to watch a super hero movie without having to pretending its some sort of high art

>>80707495

They're objectively better than the DC films and there's no shame in admitting that

I hate the fact that the better superhero films are a fucking disney subsidiary as much as the next guy, but that's the world we live in yo

Here's an interesting analysis about BvS's dramaturgical roots that should be required reading for anyone that wants to debate the pros and cons of BvS as a film.

http://pulpklatura.tumblr.com/post/141843209469/batman-v-superman-the-modern-revenge-tragedy

>>80684593
>Have you reassessed your opinion on it or do you still feel the same way about as you did when it came oout?

reassessed, I thought it was an eight but now I think it's a ten.

I don't mean this as a meme, but
PRAISE SNYDER
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>>80704347
Wait, wait.. Is this guy really saying that BvS try to challenge our conception of super heroes against marvel movies and then describe this movie's defaults by saying Snyder felt obliged to pander to the marvel public calling the fight scene "avenger-trite", wtv this mean ? And he justify the bland part as simply being unresolved ? What kind of critics that is ? This is the great critic DCucks praise whenever they need an argument ? It's a joke !

>>80687635
Why can't film crews just do stuff in actual locations :^)

>>80707673

>that should be required reading for anyone that wants to debate the pros and cons of BvS as a film.

or you could not be a fag and just watch the damn movie

>>80704532
Iron fist doesn't pretend to shake the foundation of the genre by saying it inspired from Asian mythos and no writer praise it as their best work

>>80707962
BvS doesn't pretend either, it just did

>>80685664
I'm actually hoping Wonder Skeleton and JUST US League will usher in a new era of Evans edits. It's the only thing entertaining about this abysmal shit.

>>80696382
For all the things the movie did wrong, it did Batman really well

Literally the year of endless shitposting. Just Imagine that you fucked up so hard that people are still mad about your abomination. Is Hack the most talentless director of all time?

>after one year Marvel shills are still this triggered
That oscar did them no favors either

>>80704347
>Armond white is a troll
-Ebert

>>80708131

Yeah so triggered with their really successful movies that critics and comic fans actually kinda like

>>80708373
So triggered that you literally spend all your days in BvS threads desperately trying to derail and control narrative.

>>80708714

no i just get a great kick out of grown men actually defending this 2 hour commercial

>>80684593


KINO

>>80708769
>He says while shilling Marvel
Shit, it's actually pretty impressive the lack of insight displayed by Marvel's internet dogs.

>>80708714

you can't accept the fact that this film objectively sucks that you fall back on comparing them to the marvel films, which honestly aren't that great either but they're far from BvS bad

Even the fox amd kick-ass films are better

>>80708841
>Still shilling Marvel
Holy shit someone make this Paki stop exposing himself

>>80708805

>sh-shill

I quite literally haven't said anything about how i feel about the marvel films, quit putting words in my mouth, doesn't take a marvel fankid to realize that BvS is just horrible film making, adapting two of the most overrated DC comics ever

>these people are talking about a movie I didn't like, better spend hours shitposting than just hide the thread and move on!
>not a shill btw

I wanted this film to be good so fucking bad. I love supes, and batman is straight up my favourite character from anything ever. Walked out when the flash showed up, just couldn't take anymore of it. On the walk out I could see the whole theatre was bored out of their minds.

What a fucking waste of good source material.

>>80707987
It didn't, it took the basic of all mythos that inspired the super hero genre and try to blend it all in one story painted with over the top classic christian imagery to make sure we understand superman is a savior. It's pretentious at its best

>>80708841

>Fox films

yeah they're okay, deadpool and first class are genuinely good

the rest are either bad or average. I know some people that really loved DOFP. Not a bad film, I just always hated the singer-verse and the way he's handled the x-men. i.e making scott a little bitch and wolverine the main character.

>>80708899
You literally shilled Marvel just three posts back you retard Paki. Disney really needs to hire a better class of shitposters.

>>80708805
You're the one bringing marvel on the discution, any criticism you defend yourself by engaging in a brand war

>>80709062

ho-ho looks like someone can't face the music, film sucks. Marvel films are infinitely better. True fact. The Fox films are better. DCEU is fucked three movies in and its the funniest shit.

Lego batman movie is a better batman movie, no joke

>>80709062

>Shilled
>Stating facts

But the marvel films are generally well received by critics/comic fans and perform well, like that's a legitimate fact that you can't deny

Just accept these movies suck bro, it's okay to admit that. I want these movies to be good too. Batman (and ben affleck) is the shit, doesn't deserve to be in crap like this.

>>80684593
I haven't seen it so I'll listen to the memes

>>80708891

>Paki

ya lost me

>>80709229
Marvel is hated by a lot of people too.

>>80687532
Your life must be pathetic as fuck

>>80709646

Probably because they're so successful. The way I see it, people should be grateful that they're at least trying. Superhero films are in a better place than they've ever been.

The nolan trilogy, a few of the fox films, the first iron man and the captain america films definitely deserve the praise.

>>80706956
We don't deny criticism. We embrace it, engage with it, explain why we disagree, and back up our viewpoints with examples from both the films and the comics. You're left to either accept our viewpoint, digest it, and come to see its validity, or continue sticking your fingers in your ears and going LALALADOESN'TMATTERHEADCANONCOINCIDENCE, and looking like a close-minded dipshit to the people who have accepted this movie for what it is - a omic book movie with a massive budget that, against all odds, was actually aimed at fans instead of normies.

This triggers the babbies.

>>80710392

>i-it's for the fans!
>it's not meant for the drones out there!

That is the worst excuse so far, also I can tell you now that it was the fans who were really burnt out from this film and how it handled these beloved characters. Normies actually didn't even care that much. If anything they just left confused and mixed. And they shouldn't.

Saying its for the fans should be a fucking responsibility, not an excuse

>>80710517
There are fan who know the history, understand the themes at play, and appreciate what we got, and there are "fans" who watched a cartoon last year and think that makes them experts on these characters and on the whole vast history of comics.

Guess which group is triggered.

>>80710595

.... yeah no, I've been reading comics damn near all my life and this movie was a middle finger to all of them.

it's like hack snyder saw a few cool panels from TDKR and TDoS and thought hey cool let's put that in the film. But actually forgot to write a good film.

>>80710595

>There are fan who know the history, understand the themes at play

But you should be able to understand all that just by watching the damn movie, do you not understand that, If having tonnes of prior knowledge of the characters is required to not only understand but enjoy the film then it's essentially a BAD movie.

>>80710670
That's something I don't understand, Snyder says TDKR was the base for his Batman... but it is a point in that comic that Batman simply can't be brought to kill somebody, even if he really wants to. Shit, he never meant to kill Superman, he only wanted to show him a lesson in humility and actually planned (pretend) to lose that fight. Yeah, it's like he didn't actully read the words, and just stared at the pictures and said "gee so cool I want that!".

Marvel numales BTFO ITT

>>80710786
Have you ever heard Snyder explaining any creative decision?

He literally makes decisions based on how "bad ass" something looks.

Just out of pure curiosity I listened the commentary track of Sucker Punch and is 2h of "we thought that looked cool!"

Snyder should be filming Transformers' sequels at best.

>>80711993
he's an auteur

I am still having nightmares about it

What a piece of shit

>>80706865
>Literally autism "logic", no sane person will think like that, the world make sense if you understand it only

Taking a metaphor literally and still complaining about the "autistism logic".

Projecting much?

What he meant by that line is that you have to change the world as you see fit.

See, this is why this movie is so great. It truly is too complicated for normietards.

>>80710670
>>80710786

You guys aren't looking deeply enough into it. He absolutely did base elements of the story on TDKR, but the elements he chose to borrow from weren't what anyone was expecting.

What he chose was to take some of the imagery, sure, but what he *really* did, along with his screenwriters, was take the concept of a superhero story as an allegorical tale and run with it.

Once you see it, it can't be unseen. And it's a thing of beauty. It's so clear that I already have a good idea of what's going to go down with Superman's return.

>>80711993
Snyder is far beyond anyone on the MCU. Sorry but it's the truth.

>>80712480

He's a manchild

>>80712512
one of us

>>80712480

Anyone who loves DC or just good film making can tell you that he's everything wrong with modern hollywood

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>That one Marvel shill that has been shitposting for more than 12 hours now

>>80712512
for you

>>80712635
>Anyone who loves DC or just good film making can tell you that he's everything wrong with modern hollywood
source?

>>80684593
When I first saw it in theaters I thought it was bad but after seeing it much later on HBO I now think it's complete shit

>>80684593
ok I've been here for years but I never really got this whole BvS thing

is it ironicposting or is the entire board made up of 12 year olds now?

>>80685883
Are you an idiot anon

>>80712726
that's because you watched the theatrical cut both times

>>80712743
I think there was originally like 5 or 6 12 year olds who made threads about BvS being capekino but since then it turned into ironic shitposting.

>>80685131
haha i love how this movie triggers autists so much

>>80712743
You want to see twelve-year-olds? Pay attention to who'll actually engage in a discussion and who just states their completely subjective opinion and backs it with a Rotten Tomatos score, as if that's all that need be said.

>>80712480
So?

>>80690631
Yes.

>293 posts
>98 unique IPs

Hmmm...

>>80712780
>implying any version is good

Let's assume you are correct and the directors cut or whatever is actually watchable. Fuck them for putting the "shit version" in theaters. I'm not going to invest any more of my time or money into their shit.

>>80712664

You can't seriously be a lover of film and think BvS wasn't an overly long, pretentious "universe building" exercise to sell more tickets.

It tried to merge the dark knight returns with the death of superman( and ailing spectacularly) while also introducing wonder woman and the rest of the justice league via fucking e-mail scrolling, show us what is possibly the most unbarable performance by jesse eisenberg in his career and expect us to buy into all the shit because "it's for the fans bro!"

Huge DC comics fan here, and I left feeling fucking sick.

>>80712743
Started as pure bait but, as always, if you meme strong enough actual idiots will believe it's true and continue the legacy.

>>80712834
The 12 year olds I hear are the people who just say that if you didn't like it you prolly just didn't understand it.

>>80712924
It's what a discussion looks like. You plan on making one post and just leaving? Yeah, me either.

>>80713013
Are you willing to entertain the notion that there's an allegorical component you're overlooking that ties it all together, and that there's never been anything quite like it in the history of comic book movies?

>>80712959
Yea. They also through a Injustice teaser in there for no reason and decided it was a good idea to make Superman in his prime and Batman old as shit. "Killing" Superman was also stupid because he was in only one movie prior to BvS and the audience had virtually no attachment to the character or even believed for a second he wouldn't come back immediately. Also having Batman fight Superman was fucking stupid because they barely had any relationship to one another. At least in Dark Knight Returns they had a long history so the fight had more impact. The fight between the two is already wasted on BvS and ruins any chance of a more meaningful fight between the two at any other time.

>>80713132

I'll be sure to look into it after I get the shitty taste of doomsday, the justice laptop chronicles, grannys peach tea and eye rolling jesus metaphors out of my mouth

>>80713207
>>80710595

Hi there, newfriend.

>>80713230
Yes or no, asshole? It's a simple question. Leave the adolescent snark at the door or fuck off. It makes no difference to me.

>>80713207
>>80712959
>he didn't get the plot and the characters' motivation
>says killing a character was "bad" because he had had only a single film prior
>yet he criticises the fact that there was a film prior
>he calls himself "experienced" with film and states his facts proudly

kys

>>80704665

>Just watch the lego movie if you're hungering for a DC film that respects the legacy of the batman

You guys are fucking crazy.

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>>80713057
>All these posts later
>It's still 98

>>80710392
you embrace nothing, you cry about shills everytime someone doesn't praise this piece of shit that pretend to be a film

>>80713388
And it's still a discussion, dumbass.

>>80713132
Sure but that won't change my opinion on the movie being terrible.

>stray dog takes shit in front of my house
>"fucking dumb dog now I gotta clean it"
>"hey man did you know that dogs owner used to walk his dog down this block before he died and he used to shit here all the time? What if that dog shitting here symbolizes the dogs cherished memories of his walks with his deceased master?"
>"Wow I never thought of it like that....it's still shit though"

>>80713394
Like hell. I acknowledge shills on both sides. Anyone actually willing to engage in discussion gets a response. The degree of courtesy and/or dismissiveness in in proportion to what's extended.

And it's been like that in these threads since day one, both from myself and several other fans.

>"Superman died for mankinds sins just like Jesus!

So deep

>>80713420
All right. Typing this up on the fly. Take it or leave it. It's no skin off my back either way. More to follow in several posts.

Shills will most likely call this pasta and report the thread before I'm done, but hell with it. I'll try.

>>80713313

Not the same guy faggot

Also, didn't get? there was nothing to fucking get. Nothing fucking HAPPENS in this damn film. Killing him off was stupid in this context because it literally implies his revival at the end so what's the actual fucking point. Oh because the justice league needs to sell tickets. So nothing happened in this film, great. Tell me the allegorical reasoning behind the forced universe building practices?

The biggest problem with the movie is that it was overwrought, Just too much stuff in it.

People love the Marvel movies because they're simple, straightforward and entertaining.

BvS just had too much and dealt with themes too complex. The fact that Batman and Lex are lying and excusing their actions throughout the movie confuse a lot of people because they're used to take what characters say at face value.

It's still capeshit, but at least they tried to be different than Disney.

It's Cínö in the true sense of the word.

>>80713582

>so what's the actual fucking point.

Batman's redemption, the vaccum that will necessitate the creation of the Justice League, Superman being forced to confront his godhood and so on.

>>80713313
>says killing a character was "bad" because he had only a single film prior

When you are going to feature said character in MANY more films afterwards then yes it is bad. If you already know there's going to be sequels, why not wait to "kill" him when it would actually have an impact on the audience? The whole "he's dead but not really" was just wasted potential.

How the fuck is it that MoS had better action and screenplay than this one? you have fucking batman and superman in the same movie, how do you churn out something so dull and low energy with these two characters who share decades of comic history?

>>80712440
That's psychopathic at best. Nothing justify this way of thinking. Listen, even if you wan't to change the world, first you have to understand it, this is pure logic. You can't claim that to understand the world you have to change it because the world doesn't adapt to your thinking, you adapt your sense of reality after how the world works, even children should knows that. Don't come and tell people they are stupid when you can't think correctly in the first place

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>>80713582
>Not the same guy faggot
no u
>Also, didn't get? there was nothing to fucking get.
lmao
>Nothing fucking HAPPENS in this damn film.
And the retard of the year award goes to.... 80713582!
>Killing him off was stupid in this context because it literally implies his revival at the end so what's the actual fucking point.
oh boo hoo
>Oh because the justice league needs to sell tickets.
lmao
>So nothing happened in this film, great.
Why are you assuming this without proving it?
>Tell me the allegorical reasoning behind the forced universe building practices?
>m-muh allegory
not everything is an allegory, you dumb fuck.

>>80713677
>When you are going to feature said character in MANY more films afterwards then yes it is bad.
Not if the plot requires it faggot
>If you already know there's going to be sequels, why not wait to "kill" him when it would actually have an impact on the audience?
Because zack doesn't make kino for the "audience".
>The whole "he's dead but not really" was just wasted potential.
>t.autist who never even watched the movie

I bet the autists here didn't even understood the whole media manipulation and how our prejudices can be played by politicians and media to further their agenda subplot that permeated the movie.

>>80712638
Yes, yes, disney even pays people to go watch their movies. No ones truly likes marvel movies, its all a gigantic elaborate group of shills dedicated to shit on dc

>>80712743
There are some who shitpost, but honestly a lot of them are dead serious.

>>80712834
How old are the adults crying about shilling ?

>>80713737

>Because zack doesn't make kino for the "audience"

Then who is it for? because it sure as shit isn't for the fans. The comics shit all over this movie.

Also did you seriously just post that picture? like are you actually a gigantic faggot?

>>80713562
Over the course of several viewings, I've come to understand a lot of things about MoS and BvS that weren't obvious on first glance.

Starting with MoS, is it an origin/birth story? Yes. Is it a science fiction story? Again, yes, but the truth goes beyond even that. It is a story that embraces some of the very finest notions present in comics and sci-fi/fantasy tales, the spirit at the heart of these stories - the cautionary tale and the glimpse at a better world.

MoS is a cautionary tale about the dangers of the sacred and the better world we'd have if we all started facing down the monsters born of our sacred cows.

BvS is a cautionary tale concerning the dangers of xenophobia, obsession, and vengeance and a glimpse of the better world where we start finding common ground with the "alien."

It's almost impossible to analyze them separately because the themes are so intertwined, but I'll do my best to address them chronologically.

BvS is like one of those 3D magic eye puzzles where you have to look at it the right way to see the hidden picture. Some people will get it and some people won't but in the end whether you got it or not the picture itself isn't good enough to be hung in a museum......or even stuck to your fridge.

BvS is pretty much about a Zuckerberg motherfucker trying to assassinate the reputation of a hero through politics and the media, and pretty much everybody buying his bullshit.

There's a good reason why it was called the Trump of capemovies by the critics.

>>80713655

i.e setting up the justice league which lets be honest, looks pretty fucking atrocious

>People bagging on marvel films for being quippy and joke filled

>Sees the justice league trailer

>Sees WW trailer

>The batman switching directors

>MoS2 set to have lighter tone

kek they have no idea what they're doing with these movies

>>80713921

They're also about how important a the traditional family model is important for the health of an individual and the cornerstone of a healthy society.

>>80713795
I bet it took you a movie about superman and some critics "deeply" analysing those themes for you to understand this. Funny how this movie try to tackles corruption but 3 super heroes have nothing else to fight but a big bad evil villain. I will accept the theme of corruption and war if for once the super heroes would be used to fight those things

>>80713737
>hurr y-you probably didn't see the movie

seems to be the go-to response from the 12 year olds defending this shit

>BvS wasn't for the audience

Yea no shit

>>80714128

Did you really fail to see Batman getting duped by the things the media said about Superman all because those fake news justified his misguided hate for a person he didn't even knew? Or how Lex used everyone and everything to try and tarnish the reputation of Superman? How the media didn't cared about actual facts, like Batman being an ass in Gotham, only because that wasn't as clickbait-y as the Superman supposed fuck-ups? How even Superman was starting to doubt his mission because of all the things people said about him?

Did you miss all that?

>>80713921
A super hero movie about the bad in this world and how a supernatural power could fight easily all we are afraid of if this was on our side, so intelligent.

>>80714128

You do know that Doomsday pretty much represented all the bad things Lex wanted people to believe Superman was, right?

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>>80713921
MoS gives a new addition to Superman lore - the Kryptonian Codex. It is the heart of their genetics program, their population control. Keen observers will note that it appears to be a skull fragment from a more primitive ancestor of modern Kryptonians. This is good science. It's stepping back to a point in their development to explore their full genetic potential before any interesting genes got bottlenecked out, but it's not only that. It's an early clue to some themes that run throughout these two films - it's a symbol of "sacred science" that calls to mind a key point in mankind's own past history, the point where "evolution won."

For all intents and purposes, that could have been "Lucy's" skull.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_(Australopithecus)

Take note of the assembled fragments halfway down the article. Now complete that jigsaw with the Codex. Krypton allowed science to first trump religion, and then they made it sacred in its own right.

>>80714370

The only problem the movie has in relation to that is that they used Doomsday when Bizarro would've been a better fit.

>>80714223
Who said i failed to see it but you ? All i'm saying is that corruption and manipulation are not complex story nor new things. I said that for once i would like to see a hero take down corrupt person in place of power and change the world they live in, take the fantasy and really ground it in reality if you want to tackle this subject, don't simply show what everybody know and make them fight a big monster at the end, that is easy. Doing something complex would be to destroy the image of superman because he would try to change the world for real, stopping war, battling crime, destroying corruption. Take a power bigger than men and exploit it to fight the worse weakness of humanity not a fucking alien monster.

>>80714370
No, lex represent corruption and manipulation, you want to fight that ? you stop the people responsible for it. Making superman fight a big bad monster and only imprisoning lex is easy. Lex is not alone, he is a corporation, he is surrounded by men of power who approve of is actions, share the same interest as him, lust of power. Not attacking that mean lex won't be arrested for long, a failure in the system will let him free like all the time he has been in prison. Don't try to think i'm retarded when i'm willing to give effort to talk about this subject. The monster is easy to understand, the responsiblity of human in the state of the world is a lot complex theme that bvs failed to tell.

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>>80714411
(Pic related)

"Codex" is another early clue to where this story is headed. A codex is many things, but one thing it is not is a skull fragment. Most frequently, it is a word associated with ancient texts, often of a religious nature.

When we first meet Jor-El and Zod, it is the Codex very much on both their minds. Zod and Jor have very different ideas about what should become of their "book." Zod wants to take it and "edit out" what he calls the "degenerate bloodlines," an interesting choice of words, because that word, "degenerate," has always carried some moral connotations. Later, when Zod is made aware of Kal-El and the circumstances of his birth, Zod labels Jor and Lara as heretics.

Kryptonians have enshrined their science. They have made it sacred. In a very real way, the genetics program is Zod's religion.

>>80713910
>Then who is it for?
He makes them to make movies.
>because it sure as shit isn't for the fans.
not if you keep doing "muh"
>The comics shit all over this movie.
lmao no

>>80714174
>seems to be the go-to response from the 12 year olds defending this shit
nice ad hom, faggot
>Yea no shit
hence not for you, you're a pleb

>>80714223
Ok lets talk about media corruption. When is it resolved ? After the fight with the big troll ? Are the people who reject superman influenced by the media too ? What do they think about the explosion in the capitol ? How can they blame superman for his fight against zod, implying they are both responsible for the damage, seeing his relation with the capitol but they mourn superman in respect when he die in battle ? Is the media telling them that ? Why does the media change its stance in the end ? Because he fought a big bad guy ? Cause only lex is manipulating the strings ? The death of the alien who destroyed metropolis and is in relation with two terrorist acts is more clickbaity than the presence of another person with superpower (wonder woman) that no one had seen before and who disapear just after the fact ? Why doesn't the media talk about batman, is bruce manipulating the media too ? that is surely more complex than that and to easily explained

>>80714979
It's resolved in the instant that Bruce looks at the spear in disgust and tosses it away.

>>80714920
Jor, on the other hand, has a different future in mind for Krypton. He sees Kryptonian society as a failure and wishes only for his child to carry its memory, its culture, and its potential forward as a legacy, and he wishes its future to be a choice left solely in the hands if his son.

With that in mind, he infuses the "book" into the cells of his don's body and sends him earthward. There are obvious Biblical echoes here("the Word made flesh," etc.), but I believe there's something more subtle afoot.

Clark lives the bulk of his life unaware that he's even carrying it. It's just part of who he is, in much the same way that we, children of various faiths and cultures, carry our own "books" in our bones, largely unconscious of how they are simply a part of who we are, not a religion, at least not always, but very definitely a part of our respective cultures.

>>80706206
It tried to embrace them and fucked it up. One point for effort
>>80713948
BvS is more like a magic eye puzzle where nothing is ever revealed because there's nothing there, so that anyone who insists there's a deeper meaning is immediately outed as a pretentious capeshit-eating liar