>one of the greatest comic book movie in history >gets

>>80671935
You ever think maybe it's just not that good when held up to an actual standard

>>80671935
Movie sucks, manchild.

>>80672295
this, the rating looks right to me

It wasn't bad or anything, and while groundbreaking (like Avatar, say), it was otherwise nothing remarkable. Also Snyder is a hack.

It's only partially good because the source material is good. Everything that is movie OC is either cringy or mediocre.

>>80671935
It would only have been good if it was a Minisseries

>>80671935
I thought it was extremely boring, but than again I also didn't like the comic so I guess I'm not the target audience

HALLELUJAH

>>80671935
Movie reviews are autistic social justice warriors that give bad ratings to movies with no minorities. Some of the hardcore fans were also displeased because it didn't have "muh giant ayyy octopuses!" So they rated it poorly.
All normal functioning members of society love this movie.

Would this have been better if it went for R rating like Deadpool? They could expand that sex scene for starters

>>80672391
u wot m8, the movie was R

>>80672347
Autistic man child detected.
"Where's muh giant space ayyy octopuses q.q"

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>>80671935
>greatest comic book movie in history

*teleports behind you*
nothing personal, kid.

>>80672402
Welp, it certainly didn't seem like it, maybe it's because it's been a while

>>80671935
It really didn't need to exist

Snyder is great at fram-for-frame recreations, but this story really wasn't suited to a movie

Also Snyder's direction and casting for Veidt was insultingly bad. It's like he though the audience wouldn't be able to follow the story unless Veidt acted like a blatant villain the entire time.

>>80672420
The squidlmao is literally the least of the movie's problems, adaptation wise. Something like the group actually being called "The Watchmen" rustles me a lot more.

>>80671935
>the movie
>complex narrative structure
please be shitting me. I may have struggled with watchmen when I was 15 or something but damn

>>80671935
That's just for the theatrical version which was a fucking mess. Like BvS, the directors cut is a way more cohesive experience and would've gotten more praise.

But RT is a shitty measure of quality anyways. High % means least offensive to pleb critics, not actual brave honest cinema that stimulates brain muskles.

>>80672545
Autistic man child detected.

>>80671935
I couldn't care less, we got a decent movie.

>>80671935
Not even the author of the graphic novel thought it was good.

kys

>>80671935
RT was fairer then.

If it had been released now it would get an 87% certified fresh and everyone would be calling it groundbreaking

>>80671935

The only good movie Snyder made was 300. The Dawn of the Dead remake is passable. Everything else is tryhard bullshit wallowing in its own self importance.

Even Sucker Punch, a movie about attractive girls fighting baddies like a video game, had to have some b-plot about prostitution and heavy handed attempts at social commentary so retards could convince themselves they're intelligent for watching garbage.

>>80671935
It's alright but it's so much like the comic book that I'm not sure why it needs to exist. I understand novel adaptations bringing in a visual element, but comics are already a visual medium. I'd rather just read the comic again rather than watch the movie again personally.

>>80672543
>It's like he though the audience wouldn't be able to follow the story unless Veidt acted like a blatant villain the entire time
Seeing BvS reception, he was right

>Get Out
>100/99

This was a million times better than that

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>>80671935
>the last fresh Snyder movie

>>80672345

It was hardly groundbreaking when all it did was copy the source material and adding hardly anything.

>>80672709
>Seeing BvS reception, he was right
what are you saying?

>>80672709
Luthor suffered from Goyer's terrible script

Snyder is trash when he isn't working off a strong script

>>80672592
nigga's moore's been a hack and a faggot for years now, and i pity anyone else who read Babylon.

On top of that he didn't even see the film and just shat on it anyway. Gibbons on the other hand did and loved it.

>>80673100
Moore is redpilled.

Kindly neck yourself.

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>>80671935
I love Watchmen more than anyone in this thread. But it has one of the worst soundtracks ever created. Seriously, the person in charge of that should be blacklisted from Hollywood.

>waahhh why can't muh epik Synder slo-mo capeshit get recognized as the greatest work of art ever created

honest rating. you know it's an interesting movie when it's controversial and when the reviews are bipolar. you shouldn't ever rate a movie more than 90 unless it's one of those masterpieces

>>80673124
>Moore
>redpilled
he couldn't be anything further from it you fucking retard

>>80673100
>On top of that he didn't even see the film and just shat on it anyway
because Watchmen is a a story that is fundamentally a comic. The medium is the message is many ways.

Anybody who doesn't get that, doesn't deserve the time of day.

>>80673158
but the soundtrack is all I like about it

Man of Steel is a masterpiece and it has very similar reviews.

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>>80673238
>oh no he's right! but maybe if I call him a retard he'll back down...

>>80673269
>The medium is the message is many ways.

>Anybody who doesn't get that, doesn't deserve the time of day.

>The medium = the message = many ways

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>>80673238
yes he is mong

>>80672459
I think you watched a TV edit or something m8. It was much more R-rated than Deadpool.

>>80672339
This.

Switched it off after an hour.

>>80673158
I'm pretty sure I love it more than you desu.

>>80671935
It was an ok effort, but Watchmen doesn't translate well to other mediums, and the fact that they had to alter the ending to make sense to movie audiences shows the limitations of an adaptation.

>>80673322
The medium is the message IN many ways

sorry for the confusion, anon

>>80671935
I'm no DC cuck, but Watchmen is miles better than any of those 90%+ nuMarvel crap.

>>80673322
>>80673269

That isn't at all what McLuhan was talking about lol go back to marketing class

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>I rate comic book movies

>>80673376
Do you own a rorshach t-shirt? Did you used to walk around school with the comedian's button on your backpack and read the comic in public?

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Come back when you actually understand cinema

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>>80673376
I loved it more than either of you, and I hated it.

>ending aside adapt the comic near perfectly
>still get it completely wrong and miss the point
It's quite impressive

>>80673434
>Do you own a rorshach t-shirt? Did you used to walk around school with the comedian's button on your backpack and read the comic in public?

People can enjoy things and still have self-respect

>>80673413
>Watchmen better than Iron Man or Winter Soldier

>muh bad words and Snyder slo-mo, fast-mo epic action

>>80673315
you are a retard, seriously how do you think he is redpilled in the slightest.

>>80673335
same as above

>>80672592

>“Tripwire: I saw [Snyder] interviewed recently and he was quoted, “Worst case scenario—Alan puts the movie on his DVD player on a cold Sunday in London and watches and says, ‘Yeah, that doesn’t suck too bad.'”

>Alan Moore: That’s the worst case scenario? I think he’s underestimated what the worst case scenario would be…that’s never going to happen in my DVD player in ‘London.’ [Moore lives in Northampton.] I’m never going to watch this fucking thing.”

>>80673527
>you are a retard, seriously how do you think he is redpilled in the slightest.
hey look, you did it again

>>80673527
nigga did you even read Watchmen, just look at Rorschach for fucks sake.

Stupid mong

>>80672391
The sex scene was terrible.

The movie has tonal issues and that's one, it's bad compared to the comic, and that's unforgivable.

>>80672389
this

>>80673572
i asked for proof or examples retard.

>>80673582
Christ, you cannot be serious

>>80673610
>i asked for proof or examples retard.
his written works

Why can't Disney make movies this good? Shouldn't be that hard right?

>>80672548

Complex doesn't always mean hard to understand anon. Google the meaning of the word and you'll see.

Films might use an occasional flashbacks or they start at the end and then jump to the beginning. Most of them however are just linear stories that follows a single character around. Often you're told to avoid using anything more fancy by other screen writers who will tell you, ´with good reason, that it is easy to fuck up these things.

Watchmen however often jumps back and forth in time, doesn't really focus on any single character through out the film, has a story-within-a-story with Tales of the Black Freighter, tons of minor characters living their own little lives and so on. And even with all of these tricks and gimmicks, the story is still comprehensible to the average viewer even a long run time.

>>80671935
More than one of those "Top Critic"s rated Beauty and the Beast as fresh.

>>80673665
>Shouldn't be that hard right?
what makes you say that?

It's very difficult to make a good movie. That's why there are so many bad ones.

>>80673644
ah yes, because fucking V for Vendetta just screams redpilled.

now seriously retard, which of his books have right wing themes or messages portrayed in a good light, as i admit i have not read all of them so i may be wrong.

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>>80671935
Woops, wrong picture.

>>80673699
Could you explain in great detail and comparisons tot he original and the last french version that came out why it's not fresh?
Try not to use meme arrows, other peoples reviews and make sure for the comparisons use youtube or vimeo videos for the scenes.

I'll wait and thanks, /v/

>>80673739
i mean thats pretty fair, as an adaptation its pretty shit and as an action film its pretty substandard. Doesn't help that the Raid came out in the same month and surpassed it in almost every way.

Best thing about it is the soundtrack and aesthetic.

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>>80673737
oh I'm sorry, I didnt realized you were a conservacuck

red-pilled just means truthful. It doesn't mean mindlessly sucking conservative cock.

>>80673703
Because by now they have a decade worth of experience making superhero flicks. They have 50 years of source material. They could be making great superhero movies and instead we get Doctor Beyonce. There must be some kind of reason explaining this.

>>80673756
>can you explain why this frame by frame remake of a superior movie, with shit acting, mediocre songs and Netflix tier CGI is bad?
I actually can't

>>80673852
Yeah: nobody at Marvel/Disney or WB actually gives a fuck about superheroes. They just care about the brand name and what money they can squeeze out of it.

>>80673808
oh, so you are literally using the fucking matrix to base your definitions from. Still a retard, and not even close on the conservative stinger.

Back to my original point, Moore's been a fucking joke for years now and is a terrible person to boot.

>>80673852
>There must be some kind of reason explaining this.
Do you have any theories?

Do you think they're making bad movies on purpose?

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>>80673737
>redpilled = right wing

>>80671935
65 isn't bad you fucking retard. Look how many fresh there are.

>>80673808
you know you still haven't answered a single one of his questions.

>>80672545
>this movie had a lot of problems
>like what?
>SQUIDSSSSSSSS

>>80673940
>Moore's been a fucking joke for years now and is a terrible person to boot.
based on what?

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>>80673940
>oh, so you are literally using the fucking matrix to base your definitions from. Still a retard, and not even close on the conservative stinger.
>Back to my original point, Moore's been a fucking joke for years now and is a terrible person to boot.

>>80674001
this is 4 chan mate, its hardly his fault to think that they were talking about politics considering how often is parroted around here.

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Did he cuck himself ?

>>80673940
>oh, so you are literally using the fucking matrix to base your definitions from
Where do you think the term came from?

How old are you? be honest

>>80673124
>be Moore
>have wife
>also have gf
>have gf live with you and wife
>wife leaves you for gf
>look like a hobo

Supreme might have been the last good thing he has done.

>>80673756
>Could you explain in great detail and comparisons tot he original

Should have been "with" not "and." Considering this I'm afraid such a write-up would be a waste of my valuable time since you're obviously too poorly educated to comprehend it in any case. Not to mention gay. Toodle-oo!

>>80674102
he was just unstuck in time, wasn't he?

It was still him fucking his wife, just a version of him from earlier in time

>>80673991
Actually yes, that's my theory. Look at the Beauty and the Beast for instance, everything about it screams "death of cinema" right? And it still makes a lot of cash. But also think about Pirates of the Caribbean. That shit cost 375 millions to make plus the standard Disney 150 million marketing budget that it's probably going to be even higher. 500 millions on that absolute and irredeemable piece of shit. Now think of your top ten favourite directors, unless you're a bottom of the barrel pleb, with those 500 millions you could make, distribute and promote one movie from every one of them. They obviously don't want to make good movies. They could afford one 8/10 movie like Watchmen once in a while right? But they don't, because they don't want to

>>80674174
why would they make bad movies on purpose?

>>80674049
based on his fucking work since the mid 2000's or do you mean the terrible person aspect?
>Has managed to piss of just about every major company he worked with be it DC, marvel or 2000ad
>Has a long history of being a dick or just completely fucking over his artists and friends and never even apologising.
>Used influence to force 2000ad into making them publish his daughter's shitty comics despite them getting flat out hatred from readers all the time.
>Had his gf live with him and his wife before his wife divorced him and left with his now-ex girlfriend.
i can go on.

>>80674067
who are you quoting?

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>>80671935
It wasn't that cinema industry that got it that score.

>>80674248
Because people like shit and making people pleasing shit allows them to indoctrinate the masses

>>80674296
>pissed off everybody in the mainstream jewish media
>isn't cucked by women

sounds redpilled to me

>>80674123
>>80674296
Moore is the anthony burch of /co/

>>80672543
>Snyder is great at frame-for-frame recreations, but this story really wasn't suited to a movie
On top of that, recreating shot for shot is one thing, bu the entire movie felt completely soulless. As has always been the case, Snyder can into pretty pictures, but can't evoke performances from hi actors that convey enough emotion to fill a shot glass.

>>80674296
>>Has a long history of being a dick or just completely fucking over his artists and friends and never even apologising.
absolute bullshit

>>80673158
Was it the same person who compiled the SS soundtrack by any track?

>>80674248
I'm not expert but good films are nuanced. Understanding them takes experience and knowledge. Regular movie-goers don't want to think much. Better to make movies accessible and get rich.

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>>80674335
>who are you quoting?

>>80672650
300 was nothing but a polished turd

>>80674407
nope.

just look up why Captain Britain or D.r and Quinch ended, or the reasons why Miller, Gibbons, Gibson etc. all hate him now.

>>80674448
That image is unironically the kind of person that'll say modern alan moore is a good writer.

And im saying this from experience, the cunt literally had a katana collection

>>80674448
>>>80664720

>>80674448
Work on that shilling m8

>>80674353
well if you know the answer then why are you asking?

>>80671935
Sorry OP but it still suffers from tonal problems. You have this super edgy grimdark stuff like killing child rapists, rape, murder, torture juxtaposed with the final confrontation at the end being this silly comic book "MUAHAHAHHAA you discovered my eeeevil plan! Now we must fight! Hiyah! Wham! Bam! Pow! Kazowee!"

It should have stuck to being all grimdark or all schlocky.

>>80675054
Because I'm interested in other people's opinions, I'm patrish like that you see

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>>80674546
>That image is unironically the kind of person that'll say modern alan moore is a good writer.
>And im saying this from experience, the cunt literally had a katana collection

>>80675063
>"MUAHAHAHHAA you discovered my eeeevil plan! Now we must fight! Hiyah! Wham! Bam! Pow! Kazowee!"

Belittling something like this does not actually reduce it's meaning.

>>80675180
>Because I'm interested in other people's opinions
why?

People's opinions are boring.

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>>80672384
>underrated post here

>>80675247
My life is more boring and you are my only friends

>>80671935
entire movie is about a blue faggot who is a god and can control everything

story only happens because he does nothing

boring nothing

blue god gets of his lazy ass and saves the world

the end


not a movie, just trash

>>80675297
try learning an instrument, or a new language

>>80672447
Hottopic.com

>>80675358
>things that are extremely boring and tedious for the first several months

>>80675188
how many of these do you even have?

>>80675411
academyawards.com

>>80675226
You can't make a fistfight between people wearing capes, skintight suits and masks look any more stupid than it already is.

>>80674041
Extended prison fight scene was lame and goes against th very idea Moore had of deconstructing comic book stories.
Playing hallelujah was lame.
Adding nipples to Ozy's suit was stupid.

BvS and MoS are far superior

>>80676037
It doesn't look stupid it looks cool

>>80673158
>I love Watchmen more than anyone in this thread. But it has one of the worst soundtracks ever created. Seriously, the person in charge of that should be blacklisted from Hollywood.

The actual Watchman comic had a "soundtrack" as songs were playing on various pages, or referenced at the start of chapters. The film used those songs (or covers of those songs) when possible for it's soundtrack.

"Desolation row" from Bob Dylan
"Unforgettable" Nat King Cole
"You’re My Thrill" Billie Holiday
"All Along The Watchtower" Dylan (film used the Hendrix cover)
"The Times They Are A-Changin’" Bob Dylan

A major change was the comedian's funeral chapter. The comic used "The Comedians"
by Elvis Costello while the film used "The Sound of Silence".

"walking on the moon" by the police was used in the comic but didn't appear in the film.

The "tales of the black freighter" in the comic referenced the song "Pirate Jeny" and this song is included on the soundtrack as well.

People claimed some of the songs used were a cliche or over-used but the comic was written in the 80s.

The only thing really out of place was "99 Luftballons" use in the film. Otherwise the soundtrack was very faithful to the songs of the original comic.

>>80676991

I stand corrected. "Walking on the moon" was indeed used in the film, but it wasn't included on the soundtrack.

>>80676991
How was it out of place?
The Cold War was a major theme in the movie.

>>80676865
And there it is.

>>80677223

In the song the conflict was an accident caused by pilot error. The pilot saw they were just balloons but fired anyway to show off. This was viewed as an act of aggression and full scale war broke out. Humanity survived the conflict and there were no more officers or fighter jets anymore, and at the end they release a red balloon in remembrance.

In the Watchmen the theme was that war is inevitable and humanity really was counting down to doomsday. It was no accident, it was humanity's destiny to die in nuclear fire. Humanity was helpless to do anything to prevent it.

Theme was wrong, but it still sort of works I guess.

>>80677662
The war broke out because the tensions were already so incredible high that even something as harmless as a balloon could start WW3. So it very much fits into "war is inevitable".

>>80677546
>my subjective opinion is better than your subjective opinion. I can't prove it, so I'll just shitpost.

That's cool with me.

>>80672389
this

wtf does /tv/ hate this movie for

>>80672391
Yeah they needed more forced swearing and as much gore in fight scenes as they can possibly include

>>80672389
Unironically this, they show a woman having mixed feelings about the man who raped her so that score is actually impressive

>>80672459
Remember the prison break scene where the dudes arms get sawn off?

>65% score
>71% audience score
>both are well above average
>even an average grade would've been acceptable
>wonder what the problem is
>realize all these /pol/ and reddit kids are so conditioned by bullshit bought reviews they consider anything below a perfect 10 a shitty score

The movie could have been amazing if they handled Adrian correctly.

I don't get how you can cast Rohrshach so well and Veidt so incredibly poorly.