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All right, /tv/, time for a serious talk. As we all can agree,

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All right, /tv/, time for a serious talk.

As we all can agree, "American Psycho" is a masterpiece, and the "business card" scene is the most important, it defines the movie, the whole movie exists only for this scene.

Which begs the question - what WAS the best design? Was Patrick wright to admire Paul's card with such a passion? Let's take a look at each card.

Patrick Bateman. Yes, bone was an excellent choice. But everything else falls short, but the real problem is the font. Numbers jumping all over, and the "&" symbol too much to the right. Oh no, this is not the sign of taste, it gives you an impression of barocco-ish overwhelmed IN YOUR FACE attempt to impress with cheap tricks and not of a confident business partner.

David Van Patten. A slight improvement over Bateman's card, but what the hell was he thinking? Eggshell? With Romalian type? Does he realize it looks like a cheap newspaper? It's a shame, because separately both of the choices are very sound, but the combination reveals his complete lack of taste. I can't believe that Bryce prefers this one.

Timothy Bryce. Oh, yes, he's onto something. The pattering is nice, not too cheap-looking, but not too braggy, the font is solid and confident, one could say it even gives stoic and minimalist impression. It's all in right place, But still, something is missing, something can be better.

Paul Allen. Almost perfection. Almost. Adress and fax/telex numbers are on separate line. Very good. Very thoughtful. But the font... Maybe needs a slight improvement.

What do you think? Which one is your favorite?
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I'll have to go with paul allen
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>>80541242
You are such a normie.
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>>80541145
Evelyn cucked Bateman with Bryce because he had the better business card
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>>80541145
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Bryce, with Allen in a close second, Bateman in a distant third, and Van Patten in last.
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>>80541145
they're all shitty
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>>80541242
this. dubs confirm
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>>80541145
BRYCE > VAN PATTON > ALLEN > BATEMAN >>>>>>>>>THAT TACKY FAGGOT LUIS


if you disagree your a pleb
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They're all shit.
Luis had the best card with that duotone typeface.
Green like money, gold like honey. Faggot styled on all of them with their bland-ass cards.
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>>80541468
Provide arguments, baby, it ain't a fucking street-level cocaine deal.
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>>80541500
It's nice.
Except one thing: what the hell is this shit in the corner? Who does he think he is, Picasso?
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>>80541500
And, by the way, coloring the font is two-way street. Some faggots like it, some people consider it fucking amateurish. It's a business card, not a children's book.
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But movies aside, let's see YOUR cards, /tv/. Come on, don't be shy.
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Bateman has the best card imo
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Minus one point for every card because all of them have a typo.
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>>80541145
You missed the point of the scene, and of the entire movie, if you thought any of them were better than the others.
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>>80541497
This tbqhfam
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>>80542357
You are missing the point of life.
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>>80541145
van pattens card was obviously the best
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dubs thread?
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Bateman's is worst, because mixing text figures with uppercase text is just plain wrong.

Bryce's is best. Clean and simple, not trying too hard. It shows confidence.
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>>80541564
They look like some woman ran them off on a photocopier and cut them out with a shitty pair of scissors.

What the fuck is going on with the margins?
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>>80541145
All that bullshit, and it's clear you missed the point of the scene. Good job by you, white nerd of middling intellect.
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>>80542688
Do you like Huey Lewis and the News?
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>>80542688
>>80542766
very cool, but that's nothing. check this out
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>>80541421
fucking this
let's see carruthers' dubs
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>>80541421

carruthers gold font ruins the whole card, just makes it look cheap and try-hard
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>>80541145
Time to settle this

http://www.strawpoll.me/12550243
http://www.strawpoll.me/12550243
http://www.strawpoll.me/12550243
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What would McDermott's card have looked like?
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>>80541145
Why do they all have the same telephone extension?
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>>80543027
Like a failure, obviously.
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>>80543006
>not including the fag

good man
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>>80543006

>no option for Carruthers

you fucked up
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Paul's is actually the best.
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>>80543098

it's meant to show how shallow their lives are and that all these yuppies are essentially interchangeable with each other
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bateman: raised lettering; dropped

Bryce: font is too bland; paper looks like paper mache; dropped

Allen: boring font; dropped

Van Patten: paper is textured but the texture is very formulaic; serif font but the name is emboldened; great card
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Bateman's is the best, perfect color and font combination. Van Patten's has a nice font but the color and texture ruined it. Bryce's font is boring and uncreative, plus the texture looks cheap. Paul Allen's card is pretty good but the font lacks in certain places and the dots in the phone number are horrible.

Bateman's card is an all-round winner.
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>>80543006
>voting for paul allen
>when his card looks like it was printed on laminated paper

top lel
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>>80541145
>aquisitions
>acquisitions

immersion fucking ruined
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>>80543006
>Allen winning
>just like in the film

Kino
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>>80541145
Boring cards go straight into the trash.
https://youtu.be/4YBxeDN4tbk
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>>80543315
>Bateman's is the best
>Has uneven spacing around the ampersand
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>>80541145
Out of those 4 cards paul allen defiantly has the best one. It's crisp and the words are bolded and clearly understandable with phone and company in the corners and the address in center bottom. Van Patten and Bryce have the dumb texture shit that makes their cards look like sandpaper. Bateman is a close second but the wording is a little small and the address looks unprofessional while the phone number is different heights.

If I had to accept one of their cards for business it would definitely be Paul Allen's.
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>yfw luis approaches you at the office again
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>>80541145
>As we all can agree, "American Psycho" is a masterpiece, and the "business card" scene is the most important, it defines the movie, the whole movie exists only for this scene.
>Which begs the question - what WAS the best design?
>missing the point this bad
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQzDeEtbvME
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>>80543569
Was waiting for this
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He should have used comic sans desu senpai
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>>80543615
>mfw have a luis right behind me at the office at this very moment
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>>80543759
GET THE FUCK OUT OF THERE
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>>80541767
My boss would tell me to get fucked if I showed him a business card like this.
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>>80543707
Its shit
but I laughed anyway
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>>80543585
This. I totally agree with this. Which fits the storyline and reinforces the power of graphic design and how we've fallen as slaves to consumerism.

Amazing film.
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>>80541145
I don't know if youre being dense on purpose but the entire point of the scene is that it doesnt fucking matter. They're almost completely identical with only extremely minor differences. Exactly like Bateman and his peers. They think they're individual snowflakes but really they're so similar that most people could easily confuse them. Just like what happens to Bateman and Paul Allen.
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>>80542972
>using try-hard as an adjective

you know how i know your underage
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>>80543707
Was not expecting that. I kek'd.
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Objectively, Bryce's is the best.
You don't use serfi fonts for short messages, like business cards.
Allen's business card is though.
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>>80543843

>uses your as a conjugated verb

you know how i know you're underage
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Bryce's is my personal favorite, only way it could improve is if it had slightly smoother patterning, maybe like Van Patten's
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>>80543977
is shit*
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>>80541145
It's an allegory for their dicks.
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>>80543707
I prefer this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJEErf9bZWM
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>>80544270
Well, take a look at mine.
It's bone.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiXsDUcDims
look at those tryhards
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>>80541145
Paul Allen's is fantastic
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>>80547427
you cheeky bastard
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@80541145

Trying too hard.
Wall of text.
tl:dr
Low effort
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>>80541145
>off by one
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Is bone colour represents that Bateman is sexually capable?
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>>80541145

Allen > Bateman = Van Patten > Bryce
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welp
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Honestly would have been perfect if they were all exactly the same
They were talking all theae differences,but on screen they were exactly the same card
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>>80549938
No, one of them was bone, not a card/
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>>80541145
>the whole movie exists only for this scene.
i beg to differ
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>>80542688
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Let's face it - none of the cards were actually meant to look exceptional within the scope of their detail. The graphic designer that made them didn't have that kind of talent. And they have a typo in them.

They just look kind of same-ish, and the ones with noise in the background just look lame.
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https://youtu.be/hQzDeEtbvME
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>>80550138
BLASPHEMY
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>>80550073
That's FAS, you downie.
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>>80550179
And it is so simple, too. Noise is the perfect metaphor for the lack of autistic perfection the writers wanted to convey, so it's very fitting.
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>>80542688

Ohh nice.. but check this one out
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>>80550185
You aren't very bright, are you?
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>>80550409
Well, as they say, you'll never shine if you don't glow
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>>80550409
Nah, you're just a big dummy for posting FAS and calling it down syndrome.

There's no joke here except you being stupid.
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>>80541145
Allen > Bryce > Van Patten > Bateman

Bryce's would be best if it weren't for the texture
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>>80550470
Allen's is objectively shit-tier. Font stands out against the background. Bryce's font is just cheap and background is too much in your face.
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>>80550455
One thing is clear; You have full blown autism. Seek help.
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>>80550582
I'm not even the guy that originally pointed out your nonexistent intellect, though, anon. Back to your board, /v/irgin.
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>>80541500
OH MY GOD YOU ARE FUCKING PLEBEIAN
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I really like Bryce's card.
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>>80541242
>dots between the numbers
wtf is this an ip adress ?
>company name
did you get your caps lock suck buddy

Bateman's is far superior
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Bryce would've been perfect if fax/telex was on separate line like on Allen's card.
But Allen have much worse font, so Bryce wins in my book anyway
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>>80550778
>>80550685
You guys just dig the sharpness of the font, but it's a poor blend. The ratios are all fucked up.
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>>80550649
Doesn't matter.
A key sign of Autism is when someone can not distinguish sarcasm or irony and take things at face value.

Any doctor would diagnose you with autism just from you posts alone. Please seek help.
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>>80541145
>American Psycho thread
>OP doesn't get dubs
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>>80550888
You have too much /v/ reaction images and you clearly don't belong here. Time to stop posting.
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>>80551016
Been posting here since before Oval was a thing. Try again child.
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>>80541145
I prefer Paul Allen's card the most as well. It has a class and timeless feel to it. Whilst at the same time incorporating the modern advancements of society.
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The definitive winner is clearly Van Patten. Interesting texture and name properly emboldened.
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>4 vice presidents
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Bone with Bryce's font would be god tier
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>>80551078
That's a cassowary, not an emu.
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>>80551078
Which only proves how much of a crossposting pleb you are. Might even be autism since you can't tell that your spergy reaction images and humor don't belong on /tv/.
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>>80551128
>Van Patten's
muh nigga

I like bateman's, but it could've been less blurry
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>>80550704
batemans company name is caps
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>>80551207
>Crossposting
>I've been using 4chan since 2012, I'm such an oldfag guys

Reddit is calling for you child, return home.
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>>80551334
Crying for reddit isn't gonna help son. You've absorbed so much /v/ anyone can tell at this point. You are the cancer. Now leave.
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>>80541145
Allen's typeface is the best, and I honestly can't find anything wrong with his card other than it'd be nice if the cappe'd last name was a little bit more distinguishable from the first name, but that's the price you pay for that absolutely aesthetic typeface. His is far and away the best, Batman's is a close 2nd and Bryce's and Van Patten's cant even compete because of that silly raised texture background.
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>>80543006
I-I like van patten's card...
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>>80543006
>/Ourguy/ Bateman on third place
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>>80543980
Rekt
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Paul Allen's is easily the best, no joke

Bateman's is decent but that raised lettering looks hokey. Aside from that not much it does wrong, just that Allen's does it better

Van Patten and Bryce suck fuckin shit, that texture looks like toilet paper and especially Bryce, jesus that weak font.

Allen's is clean, bold, and the indentation on the adress is a nice touch. It might just be the lighting but if that is a gradient, damn thats fresh looking.
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>>80541500
>textured
fuck off. No business card of mine will look like toilet paper
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Does Paul Allen work in Mergers and Aquismons? What the fuck is that?
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>>80552671
ITI looks like an M in that font
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>>80552602
It feels very much like the designer just asked himself a simple question: how do you make the other 2 cards look like trash? And then added the goofy texture.
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>>80541145
>he didn't read the book
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how can they all be vice president in mergers and acquisitions

how can they all have the same number

are their jobs just fronts for money laundering or some shit
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>>80543368
came here to post this
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>>80550704
t.normie
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>>80552782
Are you literally retarded?
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>>80552782
We're talking about style, not why you're autistic about nitpicking shit, you autist.
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>>80552814
>>80552838
le mad virgins
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>>80543368
>>80552804
lurk more newfags this is not new
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>>80552871
??
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>>80552838
>is himself being a nitpicking autist
>an angry one at that
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>>80541145
Where's the watermark on Paul Allen's card?
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>>80541145
Looks like you must have missed the meaning of this scene...


The point was that they are all fucking pointless and the same.
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>>80552979
>graphic design is autistic because I say so
>instead I'm gonna ask how calls get redirected to each of their offices
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>>80541145
Is it just me or has the ink bled on Allen's card? Maybe he didn't want to pay the big bucks and get his ink matched to the card.
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>>80553082
it's slightly embossed and it's high quality paper

>>80553071
but they're not and that wasn't the point of the scene at all
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>>80553082
Looks like optical illusion desu
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>>80553082
I think it's like some sort of shadow typescape I prefer it over the toilet papery ones that are shown
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>>80541145

I honestly feel that Bryce's card is the best card, but then I am biased toward Arial/Helvetica.

A personal anecdote: in an old job I was a peon among the salaried staff at a mid-sized business, and given good visuals/access/latitude to see how the business actually works, daily bookings and sales reports, regular meetings with a CEO, etc, and this period of about two years was my first and only view of what modern "office e-mail culture" is like: every node in the staff sends and copies e-mails to the appropriate other staffers, which would often include me, since I had to know xyz (demand patterens in the business/money/quantities).

We used some standard Windows solution for this: Outlook etc. You can personalize your own e-mails, put your own stuff on it. I'm a sperg so I immediately set all my e-mails to be flat black Arial text on white, with no bullshit, same with my sig and details. This is a personal choice that I arrived at without thinking deeply about the CEO's personal style, but it happens that he made very similar choices.

THE WOMEN. The women, young and old, would always clutter their e-mails with crap. Not to the point of emojis or anything (usually, professional) but goofy blue backgrounds that directly affect legibility, flowers and shit, distraction. One woman literally used either Papyrus or some other goofy font.

One day the CEO circulated to all of us in professional but firm language (digging directly at the legibility thing I just mentioned) that the e-mail styles have to cleaned up. "Please lose the bg's/try to use a simple font like Arial etc. We do sometimes reproduce internal e-mails to clients to illustrate business concepts, and these types of things make the e-mails un-readable." I did feel some vindication, kek.
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>>80551128
>name properly emboldened.
this. not sure why everyone likes bryce's. the font weight for the name is too light and it kind of gives the impression of weakness and faggotry
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>>80553451
Bryce's looks awful, but plebs like it because the lettering is "sharp".
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>>80553141
>but they're not and that wasn't the point of the scene at all
Then you don't understand what the movie is trying to say. I don't know what to tell you, the details between cards are autistically minute to the point of obsession. It is a needless obsession with perfection and the audience is supposed to look at that scene and go "holy shit. Why do they care?" Since their behavior is far removed from what we socially accept as important. The whole fucking critique is that America is obsessed with superficial concepts of "being the best" that it has become a toxic bubble...leading to literal psychosis.

I am convinced you must be 13 if you missed something this glaringly obvious.
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>>80541145
check em and wreck em
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>>80553692
But the differences aren't minute at all and what you've posted in your first post and your second post aren't the same.

Yes, they're obsessed with the superficial, that's the point of the scene.
>The point was that they are all fucking pointless and the same.
this, however, is incorrect and not what you go on to explain
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>>80554213
>But the differences aren't minute at all
Then you seriously suffer from autism and don't understand the scene's context.
>this, however, is incorrect and not what you go on to explain
You have poor reading comprehension and don't get this whatsoever.

The differences in the cards are explicitly, comically minute and pointless...

It's the whole goddamn point. What is wrong with you?
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>>80553415
things that never happened, the post
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>>80541145
not memeing here. paul allen's card doesnt have any texture in it, it's so smooth it's my favorite.
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>>80553692
Actually I think it is supposed to go "holy shit. Why do they care? There's not even a differe.. Oh wait look he's right. His card is really better than that guys. Whoa eggshell? Neat. Wait... wtf am I talking about??"
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>>80555148
No.
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>>80555198
Yes.
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>>80555256
perhaps
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YBxeDN4tbk

Remember this epic meme?
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>>80551103

>whilst

homo
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>>80554700
these are people whose lives revolve around the superficial

their jobs are the same, their job titles are the same, their haircuts are the same

they can afford to spend an inordinate amount of time and money on minutia like this because they have no actual worries and it is the only real way they can differentiate themselves from one another

bateman, however, desperately wants to fit in while simultaneously being the best
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>>80555849
>bateman, however, desperately wants to fit in while simultaneously being the best
Hence why he is a turboautist and someome meant to appear alien to an audience due to that obsession.
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>>80556160
>hence why
opinion discarded
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>>80555690
>tfw to intelligent for while
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>>80556406
Are you actually on the spectrum?
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We are getting off topic here, gentlemen.
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>>80556924
>point out someone's incorrect use of the english language
>hurrrr r u autistic?????
I had almost forgotten I was posting on /tv/
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>>80541421
>last name first
>highest ranking
It's like you want to be a nobody. When people see that card, they'll only think "Carruthers", it's by putting the name as it's meant to be said that instills a memory in the recipient. "Paul Allen", "Patrick Bateman", "Timothy Bryce", I was able to type these from memory because of the order of them. The only one I didn't remember was "David Van Patten" because the Van throws of the cadence of the name; no orientation can save him from only ever being called Van Patten.

>>80541145
To break down the actual cards themselves, I have this to say:
>A card with Texture shows you can afford that.
>An emboss is meant to give emphasis, not leave a matching emboss in your wallet.
>A Fancy Font can look less professional, but more powerful.
>A Minimalist Font shows two perspectives: "I can't be bothered with details" or "My actions speak are what let me get away with using this."
>An Ampersand is a tool, not a toy.
Given all these notions, I have to say Timothy Bryce would have the best card if not for his ampersand, it looks like a teenager drew it. But it's a hell of a lot better than Paul Allen's Middle Schooler' First Time.
If Van Patten dropped the Van and rotated the grain 90°, he'd have something to be proud of.
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>>80553415
the levels of intentional and unintentional irony in this thread are breaking the space-time continuum
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>>80555016
>things that never happened, the post


Well, this thread is about "Things That Never Hapenned: The Movie"
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>>80555016
>>80557715

Yes, it did so actually happen, and yes, I did so have these thoughts and feelings, as I've represented them.

I did couch my feelings every-so-slightly in terms of American Psycho, though to be fair, I'm not as, er, crazy about that movie as 4chan culture has historically been. If you're reading a "Bateman-affect" into my posts, then this is only partially by character-sympathy: I actually do write much like this when I get going on something else, in general.
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>>80557180
It was not incorrect use of the word "hence", holy shit get out of here. Either you are baiting me or retarded.
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And what if some guy who can into Photoshop picks the best out of every card and... combines?
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Bryce is best card
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>>80559235
you'd get mismatching typefaces and it would look awful
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I've always wondered... did Bateman decide to kill Luis after seeing his card because he was jealous about how awesome it was, or pissed about how tasteless it was?

Or was it that Luis just has a unique sense of style that sets him apart from his peers, which angers uber-conformist Bateman to no end?

also check'em faggots
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>>80542485
"I can't believe this anon prefers Van Patton's card to mine"
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>>80541145
Van Patten has the best one, it's the most legible, his name and number immediately pop up which is what you want from a business card.
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Let's see Paul Allen's dubs
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>>80541145
Bryce > Bateman > Allen > Van Patten

I like Van Patten's card stock, but the bold font reeks of insecurity and weakness. The card shouldn't have to stand out if the man is memorable.
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>>80560897

Probably the unique sense of style, since Bateman was probably incapable of seeing anything Luis did as "superior," even if it happened to be.

Luis was happy being a homo doofus that "marched to the beat of his own drum" and that probably enraged Bateman, who desperately relied on conformity to attempt to hide his insanity.
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Could the Eliot Rogers story be the spiritual sequel to this movie?
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