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When did Disney morph from THE go to source of wholesome family

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When did Disney morph from THE go to source of wholesome family entertainment to a Godless SJW liberal pandering machine that trashes the very people that made them the giant they are today?

Star Wars was the big eye opener for me. Now it seems everything Disney shits out has some other agenda behind it. When did this happen?
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>inb4 fuck off /pol/

The truth is hard to swalow for a lot of posters here.
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>>80535351
>wholesome family entertainment
>every single movie portrays the protagonist as either being from a broken family, no family, or conflicted with family
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>>80535511
What's wrong with Hercules and The Emperor's New Groove?
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>>80535511
>they adapted a medieval French fairytale by Charles Perrault
>omg it's the joos brainwashing our kids
>they adapted a book by Victor Hugo about medieval Paris
>omg le joos are at it again
>they adapted Tarzan, something dating back to Victorian Engand
>geee must be the joos!
>they adapted a story from the Thousand and One Nights
>joooooooooooooos!
>they adapted a Greek myth
>that's it, the joos are out of control
Oh boy am I laughing.
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>>80535631
uhh hunny you mean HUNKCULES!

mmmmmm hmmmm
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>>80535511
you forgot The Jungle Book and Song of the South for some reason :)
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>>80535696
Meg was my first fap
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>>80535684
>heh they adapted something, that means they didn't push any agenda at all! /pol/ BTFO once again by my epic logic
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>>80535696
The irrelevant greek wannabe-negro singers are the problem with the entirety of Hercules?
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>>80535684
>Hunchback of Notredam
Strong independent gypsie women stands up to ebil white man Frolllo

>Beauty and the Beast
>hey girls don't be frightened of men who look threatening, they're actually misunderstood by society who need you help!

>Tarzan
>run away with this tanned man girls, he's so muscular and you can also civilise him!

>Greek Myth
>sassy obese black women as the muses
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>>80535810
>they didn't push any agenda at all!
Where is it then?
Anyways, 'Lady and the Tramp', and 'The little mermaid' had been pushing agendas that would probably aggrevate /pol/ eons before the Jews took over Dysney.

Anyways,
>/pol/'s arguing skills
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>>80535946
>everyone I disagree with is from /pol/
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>>80535927
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Empowering women has always been at the forefront of what Walt was bothering to induce in his films, from "itsy bitsy rebellious Ariel", to Lady running away on her own.
Also,
>Notredam
Learn not to spell like a nigger.

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Litterally the same thing happens to Lady though... And that girl from Peter Pan if you really want more of an incentive to believe that it was happening before.

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Read the above. It's basically the same thing here too. Also, to not have this happen would've been to bastardize the Tarzan epics.

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Every Dysney movie has a different musical style, and this one happened to American church singing, of which blacks are the symbol.

>>80536039
>infographic straight out of /pol/
>"waaaah don't call me that"
What? Also fuck your picture you faggot.
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>Who is this company, whose entire success is based on its savy ability to change and reflect American values, changing to reflect American values?
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>>80536039
>everyone I disagree with is a sjw.
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>>80535684
>adapted
>not "reworked, trimmed down and completely rewritten with commercialized slickness and all but castrating any sexual or political aspects held by the original stories in order to peddle a product"

The Disneyfied stories are like the mutant bastard derivative of the originals.
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>>80536100
Learn to quote lad.

The post-jewish Disney has been pushing race mixing, feminism, and other leftist bullshit since the take over. Now they're pushing faggotry on kids, KIDS!. If it isn't blatantly obvious with the beauty and the beast remake then I don't know what else could convince you.
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>>80536289

What do you think the "adaptation" means?
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>>80536168
Only an SJW would get butthurt at someone saying Disney is pushing a political agenda.
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>>80535351
when the kikes took over
but thank GOD the allied won huh?
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Fuck off, retard.
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Their shills are here. Make no mistake. No company has as elaborate propaganda as Disney. They have massive amount of journalists under their pay checks and countless underpaid Asians on social media to shill their brands.

They push for divershitty because it empowers the politicians they have control of.
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>>80536349
>No one Brokebacks Iike Gaston
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>>80536403

Only a /pol/tard would be stupid enoough to not know that all art is inherently political and it's not Disney's fault that the current political climate in America triggers you
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>>80535511
You forgot the part where the hunchback gets cucked by the handsome white spaniard with blond hair.
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>>80535511

correlation =\= causation

A shift in values also allowed jews to get to those positions. Do you genuinely believe there is a jewish conspiracy against the white race?
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>>80536289
>are like the mutant bastard derivative of the originals.
I won't deny that they do dance around what the original narratives were, but concerning some of these, they don't explicitely do much to betray the original intent entertained by those stories.

Hugo would've probably been celebrating that his story was retread with the "agluglub poor gypsies ;-;" thing in there, socialist that he was. Perrault is a XVth century French fable author. He couldn't care less that his story was borrowed for a "learn to not judge a book by its cover" story, since he wrote "The cat in boots", or however you say that in English, which is about social ascencion and the poor rising up. Tarzan doesn't have any message to it that is inherently political, besides than to be sold cheaply as books that invoked fears and admiration people had about the colonies, especially about it changeing a civilized Englishman into a savage, which is where Disney takes liberties since it isn't wholly too demeaning of the whole part about being a savage, and takes kindly to it too. The thousand and one nights is something to tell to arab children. Good luck finding a strong political message buried in there.

>>80536349
>The post-jewish Disney has been pushing race mixing, feminism, and other leftist bullshit since the take over.
They're not. Of course, they're jews, and are keen to be economically-viable, as they do care for money, and therefore maintain themselves with the times, but that's literally it.

>>80536478
Paranoid much?
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>>80536500
>Do you genuinely believe there is a jewish conspiracy against the white race?

You seriously don't want to hear the answer to this m8
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>>80536496
And then intercially couples with a gypsie.
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>>80536478
And yet they couldn't pay for favorable Iron fist reviews? Something doesn't add up here.
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>>80536540
Only a faggot wouldn't want to tap that gipsy.
Even the stuck up priest wanted some.
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>>80535696
>equating the Muses with gospel singers
It's quite brilliant actually
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>>80536540
So are you saying Disney adapting books, fairy tales or folk tales that have non-white protagonists or love interests every so often is some kind of nefarious agenda? I mean, the hunchback of notre dame is kind of a western classic. So is beauty and the beast.
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>>80536116
as usual, the most salient posts are ignored. never change /tv/
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>>80536500
>jews are taught by birth that they are the chosen people and that other races are goyim (cattle)
>even non-religious jews have a grudge against white people for kicking them out of their countries for centuries.
>white people finally let them in
>somehow they become the CEOs of all major News organisations and other media companies
>they push race mixing, homosexuality, on the goyim

Not all jews, are like this but the jewish members of the elite? They certainly have a vendetta against white people.
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>>80536726
>>even non-religious jews have a grudge against white people for kicking them out of their countries for centuries.
Why yes I am going to listen you, you who has never once in their life had a conversation with a Jew. The greater part of them aren't even aware that kingdoms in Europe exiled them more than once in History.
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>>80535351
When you got to be over 12 and were still watching media targeted at children
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>Dude if it has a female lead it's part of the SJW liberal agenda lmao

Seriously what the fuck is wrong with this board?
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>>80536349
>gay character turns out to be a gay character in the live-action

shocking
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>>80537086
Standard ideologue behavior. Take a once-meaningful label like "SJW" and start to apply it to more and more things until something as simple as fundamentally decent human beings are "SJWs." It's propaganda, just a primitive form of it that only tricks retards. Which is everyone on /pol/ and most people here. Basically they're just fascist boot-lickers trying to demonize everything outside of their narrow obsession of licking boots.
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>>80535351
While Disney can still make an okay flick once in a while (actually I can't think of a recent one at the moment), I honestly think Walt would be disgusted with what his company has become. Disneyland itself is an overpriced and overcrowded trash heap. I'm never going there again.
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>>80535351
The real dividing line is Disney before 1960, and Disney after 1960. The former was an ambitious studio that encouraged skilled artists to explore the medium of animated film. The latter is a pale imitation with none of the drive or scope of the original. Calling the 90's period a renaissance is a misnomer because this new Disney has none of the qualities of the old company.
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>>80536936
Every Jew I've met identifies as white, too.
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>>80537361
>white, too.
Yup there's that too. There's no denying that they're communatarist as hell, and know that to congregate between themselves is what is more beneficial for them, which is why I have the teeniest bit of disliking for them, but to say that they have hatred for whites is ludicrous and farcical.
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>>80537410
communautarian*
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>>80535511
Fuck off. Jews saved Disney. When they took over we went from aristocrats to little mermaid
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>>80536494
Art is nonpartisan. Its conceptual, relational, institutional or formalistic.
t. poltard
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>>80535511
>>80535810
>>80536349

Is this accurate?
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>>80537360
I agree, though I argue 90s Disney was kino. This weird push to have gays in kids stuff and all this token race pandering is disgusting.
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>>80536039
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>>80537410
Yeah. One of my roommates is Jewish. He complains all the time about Israel and how exclusive the community is.
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>>80536116
This. They adapt to modern audience. When was the last time you saw a white normal family?
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>>80537441
>we went from a whimsical satire of aristocratic culture to a story about a spoiled girl who gets what she wants in the end no matter what and is a complete bastardization of the original story
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>>80537509
>Art is nonpartisan
This has never been correct. Are you to say paintings like Guernica are not art because it's a statement against Nazis?
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You'd think /pol/beards would support the message of Beauty and the Beast. They always insist that their inside superior white genes still makes up for their hideous outwards appearance
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>>80537618
Being against something doesn't mean you are part of or support a group that is also against the thing.
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>>80537509
>t. poltard

You didn't need to tell us
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>>80537558
>One thowaway gag line
>OMG GAYS LEAVE THE CHILDREN OUT OF IT
If it was teaching kids how to butt fuck, I'd be against it to, buy otherwise I don't see the issue. Bugs Bunny kissed Elmer Fudd as a joke and nobody blew a gasket.
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>>80535511
This needs to be edited to current era Disney. 1990's Disney was actually pretty good but what they're now doing with all those shitty remakes is really sad.
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>>80535351
>>80536039
Why does the /pol/estinian always get so paranoid about being named?
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>>80537441
How you like your princess and the frog senpai?
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>>80537654
Picasso was part of the anti-fascist movement in Spain though so I'm not sure what point you're making.
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>>80537618
Guernica is not a statement against nazis. It's a formalist piece inspired by the bombing of a village that meant a lot to Picasso.

Art + politics is propaganda. Art is always nonpartisan, or else it is propaganda.
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>>80537724
It's explicitly an anti-war piece.
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>>80535511
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>>80537668
Why does the truth trigger you schlomo?
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>>80537509
>I watch disney cartoons for the art content and the social commentary
T. inmature sperg kid who gets all his outside world information from /pol/
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>>80537710
Better than Frozen/Wreck-It-Ralph/Moana/etc..

Are you triggered it had a niggress in it? Even though she hooked up with a brown guy?
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>>80537744
That's your interpretation. It is, as most of Picasso's work, pure formalism.

As he said so himself about Guernica

>..this bull is a bull and this horse is a horse... If you give a meaning to certain things in my paintings it may be very true, but it is not my idea to give this meaning. What ideas and conclusions you have got I obtained too, but instinctively, unconsciously. I make the painting for the painting. I paint the objects for what they are.

A painting for the paintings sake. Pure formalism.
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>>80537758
fight on, keyboard warrior
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>>80537745
>lol fucking neckbeard loser!

Are you some feminist shitforbrains? Calling someone a neckbeard on 4chan is like saying a tumblrina is a landwhale,
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>>80537762
I don't watch Disney cartoons. I've seen maybe one or two. I don't think movies, especially animated movies are art. I'm here for the art discussion when I saw someone say that art is always political, which is flat out wrong. Art is never political unless it is propaganda.
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>>80535351
>wholesome family entertainment
>family entertainment
>entertainment

I fucking hated the Disney movies as a kid. Always have. Always will. Boring musical bullshit nonsense. Fuck you if you enjoy old Disney movies.
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>>80537724
Diego Rivera begs to differ
"All art is propaganda. If it isn't propaganda, it isn't art."
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>>80535511
Apparently jews are actual master race; more intelligent and hard working than your average /pol/ poster
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>>80537814
>I'm here for the art discussion
>THE JOOS RACE MIXING AGENDA YOU SCHLOMO TRIGGERED MUCH SJW TUMBLRINA?

sure thing, honey
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Gay people are real. Deal with it.
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Ok, look. Disney is just shit now originallity wise.

The progressive agenda pushing is just the icing on the burnt cake. Also it generates clickbait headlines that drive ticket sales.
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>>80535511
>>80535810
>>80536349
>>80536436
>>80536726

(((Donald Trump))) won the election. /pol/ is now a zionist board. Your days of Jew hysterics is done.

Go to Malaysia or get roped.
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>>80537839
Then he was a politician, not an artist. Art is for the sake of movement. Its meaning and symbols are for the viewer not for the artist.
If he had any policies to push and he did so in speech or paintings, he is a politician.
Maybe its easier to read him through relational aesthetics.
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>>80535351

Are you guys going to chimp out when someone Gallagers that big pumpkin head on live TV? I bet you will. It's going to be funny watching you get shot by the military on your walmart scooter.
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>>80537807
At least you're honest about being a neckbeard.

Feminists being fat and ugly isn't as ironic as /pol/. Feminists rant about being oppressed and wanting equality, which fits their hideous status. However /pol/beards talk about being genetically superior despite their hideous status.
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>>80537841
Even most white nationalists admit Jews are the smartest race.

It must be horrible to talk about racial hierarchies yet accept that you're not on the top in intelligence, the most important quantifier.
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>I will fight degeneracy with my cunning intellect cultivated by /pol/. We are the true warriors of our time and fate will smile upon us as we overcome our SJW enemies
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>>80537758
I'm not triggered, my lad.

As a /lit/ user I'm already superior to all /tv/ posters, seeing you say that art is never political without never actually arguing it is making me laugh.

Protip: Saying something over and over doesn't make it true
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>Disney shills and /pol/tards are making my thread about Jews.

Please stay on topic guys.
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>>80537915
/pol/ here

genetic superiority is a meme - africans have the warrior gene and better muscle fibers and higher testosterone on average, chinks have a higher average IQ

We just wanna preserve the white race in white countries. That's literally it. Fuck off with your strawman.
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>>80537901
>Art is for the sake of movement. Its meaning and symbols are for the viewer not for the artist.

why is it that ignorant people always take this kind of affected speech pattern when spouting bullshit about things they don't comprehend?
you're just contradicting yourself by using those big words, kiddo
there is no such thing as art without inherent meaning, you dolt and the more you separate the meaning from the author in order to put it in the eyes of the beholder then the more you allow the actual zeitgeist of the epoch in which this art is produced to assign it the political sense
everything is discourse you dense twat, the nihilistic idea of intellectual or aestethical production being devoid of meaning is just highschool edgyness
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>>80538004
fiction isn't art lit. lol. only paint and sculpting is art. fiction is at best kitsch.
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>>80535351
The Jungle book wasn't SJW was it?
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>>80538059
Stop being virgins who can't get laid then
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>>80538130
>debunk your strawman
>come back with another one

P O T T E R Y
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>>80538093
I am an artist. I have studied fine arts. I have a ba hons in fine arts.
To understand a Pollock you don't need to understand any meaning or symbol, you need to understand the recording of movements he made. Like all art, a brush stroke is a recording of a movement. its formalism.

Symbols and meanings are what you learn about art in elementary school. Its wank.
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>>80537831
Except lion king. I liked that. Btw why are kids not allowed to watch horror or action movies anymore. Fondest memories was staying up late with dad watching IT and nightmare on elm street till my mom came to living room pissed because she couldnt get enough sleep.
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>>80538151
>muh strawman!
>Stop trolling!
>haha! my logic is superior to yours!
>this is a serious discussion!

What does the /pol/beard mean by this?
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>>80538187
>resorting to strawmanning your own strawman

holy shit this is why you're losing the culture war

just love your race dude, whichever race it may be. Unless you're mixed, in which case I feel bad
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>>80538059
>We just wanna preserve the white race in white countries.
then you're dropping the ball
having discussions about child movies on a cantonese whale clubbing board is not particulary successful with the ladies, y'know
if you want you """white genes""" (remember all americans are mongrels) to pass on then maybe you're better off going outside and talking to women
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They better not fuck Aladdin up.
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I want Trump supporters to leave.
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>>80538109

See >>80538004

>Protip: Saying something over and over doesn't make it true
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>>80538239
>if you wanna do X you have to do it 24/7 you cant browse /tv/ now allow me to further strawman you by assuming youre both american and without a GF

t. projecting shlomo
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>state facts about what /pol/ believes because you can go there right this second and find numerous examples of what you're talking about
>STRAWMAN STRAWMAN I READ THE WIKI ARTICLE ABOUT COGNITIVE BIASES STRAWMAN ARGUMENT FROM IGNORANCE AD HOMINEM
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>>80538059
What if the people of those countries don't care, though? The weirdest thing to me about /pol/s ideology is that they can't fathom that the people themselves don't care about the white identity, and that the only possible reason they don't is because of malevolent forces in the media which tell them not to care.
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>>80538288
Like you are doing? You have yet to prove how art is political. I have proved how it isn't.
Art is nonpartisan. It is formalistic, conceptual, relational or institutional. But never political.
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>>80538243
This, but I am really skeptical that they can even match one of Disney's best animated film.
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>>80538316
That's ....literally a strawman argument, though.
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>>80538228
I voted for Trump

And the fact you think bitching about Jews on a cartoon board is about "fighting a culture war" is pretty hilarious
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>>80538334

Stop ad homineming me with your cognitive dissonance
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>>80538059
Why does /pol/, a board full of non-whites, care about white countries?
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>>80536039
Posting this shitty strawman confirms you're from /pol/.
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>Walt hates Jews
>Disney is Jew owned now
>it's pozzed as fuck now
Man the Jews sure are vindictive people.
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>>80538319
Every race except for whites care about their race, and whites weren't too dissimilar up until post WWII. I cant speak for all of /pol/, obviously, but I personally arent expecting whites to get back to this point of caring about who they are as a race until a civil war happens in Europe. With Erdogan threatening to flood Europe with islamists, it might happen sooner than expected.

Sad but true.

>>80538347
But not incorrect

>>80538379
>a university town in new york is representative of the entire world
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>>80538379

The same reason poor people want to suck up to the rich so badly. They think they will get there someday. If they "close the door behind them" they'll be accepted among whites as true americans. But racists will never accept them.
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>>80536039
Is there a version with more layers? Also americans are retarded. At least when it comes to social issues and """ politics""".
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>>80538428
>Nazis hate jews
>Nazis get utterly and ultimately BTFO
>Nazis are cucked as fuck now and lash out against everything in order to stay relevant

Nazis are the new jews
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>>80538455
>whites weren't too dissimilar up until post WWII.
Race is a concept that wasn't even touched on prior to WWII though. Only something brought about by Americans that think that belonging to a race will be something to quench their lack of culture.
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>>80538328
>I have proved how it isn't.
>Art is nonpartisan. It is formalistic, conceptual, relational or institutional. But never political.

See>>80538004

>Protip: Saying something over and over doesn't make it true
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>tfw you are a member of the white master race but the jews control everything
It must be hard. At least you keep fighting against their rule on a discussion forum for chinese comics.
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>>80538500
the funny thing is americans are by definition a mixed race nation
>"MUH 1/134th OF PURE GERMAN BLOOD MAKES ME ARYAN MASTER RACE"
>gets his foot cut off because of diabeetus
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>>80538500
You're sorely misinformed. The original constitution specified white men and women only being allowed into the US. The immigration act of 1965 changed that. Race was hugely important to whites two generations ago and beyond.

But I'm not talking about the new world, i care about historically white nations in Europe first, then we can sort out the Americas.

>>80538543
>implying white nationalism is white supremacy
Whites aren't the master of anything really, but neither is my family. I still love my family though, just like I love my race.

>>80538588
Nice get but im not an amerilard so stop projecting
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>>80538543

What sucks even more is all the whites that became millionaires and billionaires despite the jewish control over the banks and economy. It must feel really bad to be a failure when you're supposed to be the master race.
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>>80538636
Again, this meme that white nationalists consider whites to be superior. We don't. We just want white countries for white people, just like blacks have black countries, japan's for the japanese, korea for koreans, etc, etc
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>when you realize shills on /tv/ are actually fucking real

WOW
This thread confirmed it for me without a shadow of doubt.

the same stock images, with the same filenames, same canned responses...

fuck you worthless rats. youre going to burn.
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>>80538634
>The original constitution specified white men and women only being allowed into the US
Was this intended to be a comeback at my mentioning that race is something that only Americans would've had fixated over some generations ago? I don't see how I'm being denied my point here.

>Race was hugely important to whites two generations ago and beyond.
Oh, so we're conveniently about to skim over that the WASP Americans were bothered that Italian and Polish catholics were arriving in swarms in the US, even though they're white from an American point of view.

Race didn't matter that much see. For a whole lot more time, religion and nationality mattered even more.
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>>80538748
>Race didn't matter that much see.

Nice revisionist history.
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>>80535351
When kikes took it over, I seriously hate jews.
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>>80535351
>Now it seems everything Disney shits out has some other agenda behind it

What agenda did Moana have? Does starring brown people really make it an agenda?
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>>80538748
You claimed race as a concept wasn't touched on until after WWII. That's demonstrably and ridiculously false.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalization_Act_of_1790
>This law limited naturalization to immigrants who were free white persons of good character

See? Not the constitution, I got that part wrong, but that's because I'm not American.
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>>80535547
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>>80538716
>shills are out to get me in MY safe space
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>>80538856
Enjoy breathing while you can rat
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>>80538806
When did jews take over Disney? Do you even know?
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>>80538663

Never going to happen. Might as well kill yourself. Trump won't make it happen and no Republican alive today would make it happen. If you want a white paradise go buy and island and live there with only whites.

Keep it up and you're going to get Trump killed.
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>>80538896
The current CEO Bob Iger is jewish
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>>80535547
>I made this 1(one) shoop
>I will now post it in literally every thread
>stormweenies eternally btfo
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>>80538838
White just meant not black or Native American at that point because slavery was alive and well. Had nothing to do with preserving the white race.
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>>80538803
>literal schism between Italians, Anglos, Poles, Germans, French, Scandinavians living in the US for the longest time
>"ooooh but they all loved each other cause they was all whites!!!"

>>80538838
Thank you for inducing more sources and fact in this debate than the other chap has in this whole time, but I'm sorry to say that a document dated from 1790 doesn't mean much. This was from when all immigrants would've been when there were only English immigrants, and therefore there wasn't a need for dressing up "white" as something that englobed the whole of Europe. If anything, white back then was only something to set them apart from the black slaves.
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>>80535511
LOL Heavyweights, really?
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>>80538890
I'll enjoy you're a mom's pussy m8 that's what I'll be doing tell ya what
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>>80538913
>Trump
>Republican
>still obsessed with America

I'm not even American holy shit stop

>>80538929
>White just meant white people in order to preserve the white european heritage of America it doesnt mean preserving the white european heritage of America
ok

>>80538936
The white immigrants coming into the US were English, French, Italian, German, Polish, Irish, and all sorts of others. It wasn't just English.
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>>80537892
0.50 shekels have been deposited into your account
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>>80538663
Why though?
Considering everything, I have more in common with a korean university student than a german car mechanic.
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>>80537531
yeah sure except they didn't say any thing about wanting to get laid.
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>>80538988
Even in the 1790s? Don't be pedantic now anon.
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>>80538988
>I'm not even American holy shit stop

Then you don't belong on 4chan. This is an american website. And stop getting involved in our politics.
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>>80538379
>nu /pol/
>in any way representative of /pol/
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>>80538936


I think its clear to everyone to stop responding to this worthless subhuman.

Back on topic, Disney is now a strong force in pushing the pozzed globalist agenda, because said globalists more than anything else want to push their bullshit on children.
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>>80539041

>guys the majority of /pol/ now doesn't represent /pol/ now because in the past they weren't the majority

lol
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>>80539049
>this worthless subhuman.
Wait me?

As in to evade arguing with me any bit further, all you're capable of doing is calling me that, and pretend like you won?
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>>80538998
By that logic, I have more in common with my coworkers than my parents because I see them more frequently. My folks are still my family, though, just like White is my race.

>>80539034
Yeah? Anything to counter this?

>>80539037
You're bringing up trump and republicans dude, don't get it twisted.
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>>80538347
>the truth changes is you say it over digital text as opposed to in person

I don't follow.
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>>80538526
The burden of proof lies on you here, to prove how art is political.
If you don't know what formalism, conceptualism, institutionalism or realtionalism is I can describe it to you. But it has nothing to do with politics, thats the realm of propaganda.
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>>80538988
>White just meant white people in order to preserve the white european heritage of America
No... It was literally just worded that way to make sure no courts could interpret it as meaning slaves were citizens.

Jesus fucking Christ. I'm not the other anon pretending that race wasn't a thing in older America but please don't presume to understand how the law in a foreign country where Judicial review is an improvement part of a the government is written.
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>>80539122
I don't even know why they keep bringing up America, I've said multiple times that I'm not American and that I don't know American history all that well.
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Why is /pol/ so obsessed with /tv/
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>>80538988
Are you implying there were people from other areas besides Europe who were trying to immigrate to the US in the late 18th century? Because you'd be wrong.
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>>80539084
>Yeah? Anything to counter this?
That whereabouts the 1790s, the majority demographic in immigration to the US were the English, and some German and Dutch whom the English considered as kin to both being Protestant, and the Anglo-Saxon thing.
You are so hopelessly deluded.

>Thus began the first and longest era of immigration, lasting until the American Revolution in 1775; during this time settlements grew from initial English toe-holds from the New World to British America. It brought Northern European immigrants, primarily of British, German, and Dutch extraction. The British ruled from the mid-17th century and were by far the largest group of arrivals, remaining within the British Empire. Over 90% of these early immigrants became farmers.[1]
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>>80538837
I didn't see Mona. I wanted too though. I heard it was average.
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>>80539198
>the majority demographic in immigration to the US were the English, and some German and Dutch
Right, so not only English. Thanks for proving my point.

>>80539196
How did you arrive at that conclusion? I specifically stated America only imported Europeans to be free peoples.

US History is boring and irrelevant to me. I hope you goys love your race though!
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>>80536116
I'd like to make a company that is basically an alt-right Disney. I'd like to see them try to compete against my park and my animated movies. Watch Disney get totally rekted.
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>>80539168
I don't lack sympathies toward racial identity in Europe. I don't see any moral solution to force people to stop interbreeding, but I would find it sad if Scandinavia for instance became brown.
But I do think that the US has very little room to complain about white purity when it's been a mixed-race country since day one.
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>>80539122
>I'm not the other anon pretending that race wasn't a thing in older America
That would be me. Maybe I'm venturing into some near-hyperboles on my way to making my point, but the thought that the idea of a "white race" started in the mixing pot that the US became isn't too silly either.

I know that whites would've considered themselves closer to one another compared to blacks and such, but there were still differences between them, with many of them thinking that the Irish and Italians weren't worthy of being called whites, or continuing to think along the lines of more closely-knit ethnicity instead.
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>>80538663
>japan's for the japanese, korea for koreans
They all look pretty much alike /pol/. their homogenousity is based on nationality and culture rather than race.(concept unknown to anglos)
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>>80538921
The previous CEO Michael Eisner was also Jewish, and he ran Disney from 1984 to 2005, are you saying that was the time Disney quality deteriorated?
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>>80539292
>not only English.
I litterally bring up why the German and Dutch weren't bothering the English, but thanks for not knowing how to read more than three continuous words then.
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>>80539322
Disincentivize immigration by not offering free money. And mixed race kids leads to a significantly higher rate of mental and physical illness. How is that moral?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1448064/

>>80539382
But theyre not english, therefore there was a plurality of immigrants from different white backgrounds.

>>80539347
Japan and Korea are highly genetically homogeneous. To deny this is to deny reality.

>>80539362
I was just answering the question for the anon. He asked when "the jews" got disney; not if the quality has suffered under a jewish CEO. The current CEO is jewish, the former one as well, it seems.
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>>80538988
>The white immigrants coming into the US were English, French, Italian, German, Polish, Irish, and all sorts of others.
>All sorts of others
Yes. Japanese were also among them (are they white enough?)
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Holy SHIT!

Spencer fags get out.
We are taking about Disneies Progressive/Globalist agenda... not about race though racial shit is related to said agenda.
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>>80539437
Again, I don't care about the Americas. Anon asked a question about them and I tried to answer to the best of my knowledge.
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>>80539345
No, but blacks and Indians were still considered far below any of the white groups. Plenty of people hated the wops and micks when they came over but at least they weren't niggers. At least that's the mentality they had. That said, the Irish in particular were often claimed to be a different race from white people, sort of like how all Jews are a different race to /pol/.
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The fact they shoehorned gay shit into Beauty and the Beast should be the sign for even the most brainless dullard that Disney is fully onboard with Agenda 21
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>>80539434
>therefore there was a plurality of immigrants from different white backgrounds.
Of course, but what I'm trying to make my point is that by this point, the Americans didn't mind putting a more definitive definition to white since they were only greeting in immigrants that they approved of (Germanics AND protestants). But that doesn't mean that putting the label was an invitation for other whites to come over, since they were visibly annoyed when the Irish, Poles, Jews, and Italians started coming over.
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>>80539434
>And mixed race kids leads to a significantly higher rate of mental and physical illness. How is that moral?

I'm sorry, but I don't see how "don't produce kids because society will be shitty to them making them depressed" is anything but an indictment to said society.
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>>80539502
>but at least they weren't niggers. At least that's the mentality they had.
Thank you. Again, I wouldn't be here trying to bury the very idea that racism wasn't thought of as something along skin tones, but that doesn't mean that Europeans and white Americans from that time thought of all whites as a joyful alliance of the same race, all equal, like some people on /pol/ would try to believe.
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>>80539034
The Dutch, Spanish, and French all had colonies in North America long before the United States came into existence.

New York was a Dutch trading port.
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>>80539623
but that doesn't mean that Europeans and white Americans from that time thought of all whites as a joyful alliance of the same race, all equal, like some people on /pol/ would try to believe
I'm not sure ive ever seen that sentiment from a /pol/ack. They all seem to have different hierarchies of which group of whites is superior to the rest.
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When you started listening to Russians instead of Americans, I guess.
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>>80535511
>90s Disney
>bad
You're a fucking dunce
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>>80539666
I wouldn't know if this one happens to be a /pol/ack, but this is what he has been eager to defend since earlier: >>80538455

>>80539638
Does North America equate to the whole of the US though?
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>>80539569
Did you even look at the study? And even if mental illness were entirely due to outside factors, which it is not, then the solution would still be to disincentivize doing it, because that'd be the path of least resistance.

>>80539561
I D O N T C A R E A B O U T T H E A M E R I C A S

>>80539666
It's almost like you're going to favour your own group/background over another, and that's why there's no disagreement over which nation's people is more superior. It's almost as if we're not even saying whites, in any general sense, are superior. Really makes you think.
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>>80539770
>I D O N T C A R E A B O U T T H E A M E R I C A S
And yet you've been staking your claim on a 1790 era American law for about as long as we've been chatting together.
Or was that not you?
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>>80539802
You guys have been bringing up America, I've just answered your questions to the best of my ability.
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>>80535351
>wholesome family entertainment
Sounds like you're butthurt about something, is it niggers, women or mexicans?
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>>80539851
>You guys have been bringing up America
Hmm well it is true that I was the first to say that the notion of the "white race" was first introduced in the Americas.
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>>80538846
>fox news
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>>80539770
>Did you even look at the study
I did. And they, like any good study, did not attempt to explain the results, but did offer hypotheses including added stress due to lack of total acceptance among peer groups. None of those hypotheses suggested that for some reason mixed race people are genetically predisposed to worse health which seems to be what you're implying. In fact, it's pretty well known that greater genetic diversity makes hardier offspring, so I'm not sure why you think that at all.

And I just fundamentally disagree with your point about if it were environmental. The difference between an individualistic and a nationalistic viewpoint which we'd get nowhere arguing.
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Remember that time disney had a chance to bring back quality star wars but rewrote a new hope with a woman and a nigger and a gay mexican? What the fuck were they thinking?
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>>80540105
It is because of their genes that they are unable to identity with their parents, which in turn makes them depressed. It is genetic. No amount of acceptance or tolerance or whatever will change this. It is cruel to interbreed.
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>>80540217
>Remember that time disney had a chance to bring back quality star wars
No, I do not.
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>>80540323
>No amount of acceptance or tolerance or whatever will ever change this.
A.) That's not even true. If animosity between the two races is dissolved there's no issue.
B.) "More likely than the average" in no way means "will certainly/probably". You're assigning an arbitrary likelihood of depression and saying that's the cutoff point for cruelty. There's no more justification for that than moving that arbitrary point to beneath the normal chances for depression and saying "it's immoral to reproduce at all because there's a chance the offspring will be sad".
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>>80540668
He said there's no moral way to stop people interbreeding. I gave him a moral way.
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>>80540668
>If animosity between the two races is dissolved there's no issue.
Call me back when you figure that one out. The whole world is waiting.
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White identity = BLM

Racists and SJW GTFO.

Stay on topic or go back to /pol/.
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>>80540759
Keep them in their own nations, and dont force them to live together
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>>80540323
So you agree then that an english man and a german woman or a french man and a swedish woman should not breed because they are different races, right? Right?
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>>80540824
0/10
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>>80540824
No; they're all white. They'll be able to enter into the culture of whichever white nation they're raised in.

A white kid wouldn't be able to enter into the culture of a sub-saharan african nation, just like black kids can't enter into the British culture, thus create their own subculture.
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>>80540783
OK, so we just wipe the slate clean, start over in a fantasy world where the last millennium of human history never happened, remove human free will and/or any capability for international travel, and then I think we got this one in the bag!
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>>80540759
Point B was more than a sufficient rebuttal on its own. A is just a theoretical "what if".

Nobody seems to realize just how young modern humanity is. In a thousand, two, etc. Thousand years who knows if racial issues will remain.
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Kids are no longer their main demograph, pandering to adult-children now is.
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>>80540920
You elect governments that implement policy that disincentivize immigration of non-whites and encouraged repatriation for them. You can turn this around with policy, but with Ergogan threatening Islamic invasion of Europe it seems like it's gonna be solved by bullet over ballot.
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>>80535351
>Godless SJW liberal pandering machine that trashes the very people that made them the giant they are today?
For what? adding a scene of two dudes dancing?
fuck off jesus christ, reading this shit is embarrassing
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>>80540824
I believe that yes
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>>80540980
This. Disney store is filled with bullshit kids don't want. Die Cast limited edition figures, Prop Replicas, etc, etc, no kid wants this
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>>80540975
>In a thousand, two, etc. Thousand years who knows if racial issues will remain.
Well, if those scumbag libtard scientists are to be believed, we'll be murdering each other by the millions in competition for temperate land and drinkable water.
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>>80541078
damned republicans!
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>>80535351

>No year male protagonist for years

Enjoy your decreased ticket sales
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>>80541032
It seems that way.
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>>80541119
This is literally why Moana failed. Kids wanted to see a Maui movie
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>Falling to your natural instinct to fuck as you wish
Degenerate!
>Falling to your natural instinct to get into fights
Chimping out!
>Falling to your natural instinct to a tribalistic worldview where you only sympathize with your own "kind".
The one good and truly moral way! It's natural!

I honestly don't get it, /pol/. I just don't. We evolved Tribalism because we lived in nomadic troupes that had to live off what the land provided and could not produce our own. A post-industrial society has no use for it. It's a degenerate return to base instincts.
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>>80541078
Nah. They're right about global warming, but humans will start doing reactive things to reverse it like pumping reflective particles into the atmosphere. Shit like this might happen in poor equatorial countries before we do that, though.
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>>80541188
Societies with homogeneous populations are higher trust and have higher social cohesion than diverse societies.

Societies with high promiscuity don't have that.
Societies with higher violence don't have that.
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>>80541188
Well while you're off desperately trying for your idealistic world to work, everyone else is going to continue being tribalistic.
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>>80535511
that "timeline" doesn't make any sense. Also, Jeff Katzenberg is a turbo faggot for different reason than being a jew- he's a sterotypical producer who keeps cutting shit that ruins movies. Take a look at the climax of the Black Cauldron. He also tried to cut out Part of your World from the little mermaid.
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>>80535511
with the exception of hannah montanna and high school music , all that shit is goat . why are the jews so based /tv/?
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>>80541188
>Falling to your natural instinct to get into fights
>Falling to your natural instinct to fuck as you wish
We give these things up when we decide to live in societies that form our civilization. Go live in africa you fucking chimp.
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>>80541534
Jesus Christ. That anon's point was flawed but somehow you missed it entirely anyway.
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>>80537596
This morning at breakfast in my house.
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>>80541356
Eh, I feel even if racemixing is painful for a few centuries it'll be worth it if the human race is homogenized in the end. I do wish that the white race was larger so it could have more genetic impact on the future race but that's just how the cards were dealt I'm afraid.
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>>80537596
The Man in High Castle

they're supposed to the bad guys
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>>80541587
Shut the hell up retard. If you're going to discuss politics don't resort to ad hominem you faggot. GO BACK TO AFRICA
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>>80541645
>lets destroy EVERY race and culture

But I'm the evil one because I want every race to preserve themselves and their culture.
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>>80541696
>DESTROY
no???? nobody's dying???? People will fuck whoever they wanna fuck not caring about whiny babby sensibilities and eventually a single homogeneous race will exist, and that would be better for mankind.
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>>80541740
>Eh, I feel even if racemixing is painful for a few centuries it'll be worth it if the human race is homogenized in the end.

What do you think homogenized means? It means mixing all the colour on a palette until there's a gross brownish-grey colour left. Mono culture, mono people, no diversity.

I want diversity, I want different cultures. I don't want them living together, sure, but that's because I don't want them mixed and homogenized. THAT is evil.
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>>80541645
Why would it be worth it?
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>>80541820
For the same reasons that same anon provided as to why homogenous countries are better.

>>80541696
Nothing's being destroyed. The culture of a group today isn't the culture it was yesterday. It changes and morphs over time. Unless you have a way to disconnect the world from each other, there's no way to stop the ultimate racemixing of the world. Technology will forever make the world smaller.
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>>80541785
>THAT is evil
Why? Firstly, different cultures will always exist. They exist within the same race. Secondly, there's no reason you believe variety of skin color is good except "might feelings". No, we shouldn't base policy based on feelings.
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>>80542340
>Nothing's being destroyed.

Either trolling or genuinely retarded
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>>80542340
>>80542397
dont feed this troll
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>>80542397
You are taking away what makes people unique in the larger world and making them the same as everyone else. You are retarded.

>>80542407
This guy gets it.
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>>80542407
Unless people destroy all the historical pieces that prove it existed, nothing is destroyed. Even if all races were kept separate, culture would still change and the current culture in a white country would be drastically different from the culture in that same country 500 years from now. If that's also destruction, then sure. It will be destroyed, but again, it will be no matter what.
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>>80542441
>You are taking away what makes people unique in the larger world and making them the same as everyone else
People are unique because of their own traits. If your race is so integral to your identity as a human being that you have no other traits to delineate you from other people, then I feel tremendously sad for you.
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>>80542486
>>80542564
Remember anons, dont feed the obvious trolls.
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>>80542486
There would still BE white countries, and black countries, etc, etc. Right now, the ONLY nations that are 'diverse' are white nations. The grand idea you're positing of one race le human race after 2k years of race mixing is not only unbridled evil, it is absolutely not going to happen. Whites will cease to exist, and that is all that will change.

>>80542564
And if you don't identify with your people or feel a desire to preserve them, then don't waste time pitying me, you need to spend time sorting yourself out. 2/10 for the reply, shlomo.
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>>80541740
>People will fuck whoever they wanna fuck
Not me.
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>>80539185
BECAUSE CHILDREN CARTOONS ARE RELEVANT POLITICAL DISCUSSION ANON HAVEN'T YOU PAID ATTENTION?
>muh future of white children
white children are more threatened by having ketchup treated as a vegetable in their diets, watching a movie with brown people in it won't save them from being blobs of fat incapable of moving without the aid of an electric scooter
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>>80535511
>>80535511
Came here to post this :)
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>>80542602
>>80542637
/Pol/ocks are so afraid of the obvious logical progression of humanity that when confronted by it they believe it to be legitimate evil.

Jej.
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>>80541287
>societies with homogeneous populations are higher trust and have higher social cohesion than diverse societies.
>that's why humanity should remain separated based on bullshit eighteen century definitions of racial identity instead of becoming an homogeneous group independently of their cultural and ethnic backgrounds

this really unclogged my noggin'
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>>80543377
Just imagine actually being this stupid and myopic at best, and this much of an intellectually dishonest snake at worst.
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>>80543393
>$0.03 cents have been deposited into your account

>its easier to get all 7 billion people on earth to racemix all at the same time for four generations than keeping them separated like they have been for all of human history
most of the world is already separate from everyone else and it's only white nations who are expected to be diverse.
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>>80543437
>Myopic
Anon, I'm not the one not understanding basic math applied to a long period of time.

The only thing keeping the races distinct historically has been relative geographic isolation over hundreds of thousands of years. Those barriers decay every day thanks to technology. It doesn't require widespread race mixing. If just 1% of each generation is of mixed race, the global population will be fully mixed within a few millennia. The process happened as soon as trips around the world became easy and won't stop because a certain percentage of the population is against it. This is not a moral or political issue, it's simply what is happening and what would logically happen and what will happen in the future.
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>>80543691
>>>/jidf.com/
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>>80543691
You're under the sorely mistaken perception that everybody feels like you on this issue. They don't. Chinese want to preserve the Chinese race, Hutus want to preserve the Hutu race, Japanese want to preserve themselves, Indians want to POO but also preserve themselves. Race identity and preservation is self-evident among every race except whites, who are routinely shouted down as bigoted or idiotic for wanting the same thing.

There won't be a mono-race, and you're absurdly stupid, naive, or disingenuous for thinking so.
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>>80543805
>Oh no, a logical argument! Better call him a Jew!
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>>80543871
"Watch how he recoils in horror, 'I've been found out!'"
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>>80543853
Unless all of those countries enact policies that forbid even a small portion of their population from racemixing you're wrong.

I bet you don't understand how compound interest works either.
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>>80543911
I can almost guarantee you don't understand how legacy works.

The world does not look or think like a Vice News office pal
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>>80543871
>logical argument
jej
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>>80543644
>that paranoid delusion
have you been to the outside world?
it is definitively easier to racemix the earth, it is what's actually been happening for the last fifty years or so
you know how many "white" people lives and makes business in places like bangkok or dubai?
how many asians are now in africa making money and improving the local economies?
whites are in fact the most blatanly aggresive mixers since they are a literal minority living in cottage sized european toy countries but you can't seem to get away from them
>visit SE asia
>full of brits, germs and ameritards
>visit south america
>chocking full of french, italian and spanyard scum

the future is mixed, you're just desperate because you're a genetical dead end (not because of an agenda, but because of your poor understanding of what's relevant and interesting to a real female)
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>>80540897
DUR HUR ALL WHITE PEEPS ARE SAME GENETICS AND CULTURES

so russians and portugese are the same race and same culture?
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>>80543940
>Billions of people are so bound to their racial identity that 1% of then would never abandon that to reproduce with a member of another race.

Have you considered why white people are willing to racemix more than other races at the moment? It's because it's the only fully post-industrial race so it has time to give a shit about social issues.

And let's just forget entirely the shitton of Hispanics who are already in themselves the complete product of racemixing which has been the norm for centuries.
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>>80543437
>dishonest
You don't know what that word means.
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>white people spend centuries importing millions of black people then get upset when they start interbreeding

White people made the first move to destroy tradition geographic boundaries of race. They've not the Jews but themselves to blame.
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>>80538228
>Unless you're mixed, in which case I feel bad
what's wrong with racemixing
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>>80535351
You forgot SOULLESS. Everything is mostly for the least common denominator.

Something that will appease everyone and take no risks; now Marvel is all grey CGI blur thanks to the Russo Brother faggots, they should have stayed on TV.
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