I keep seeing shit about this show being incredible. That's

Dude what the fuck are you talking about, this show is pure kino.

>>80463555
Your trips confirm it.

B5 is kino.

>>80463555
It's amazing, they don't make em like this anymore mr. Geribaldi

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>>80463555
Season one drags hard. It really picks up in the second season.

And you better not be talking shit about Hercules in space!

>>80463596
I watched that pilot movie and the first two episodes. Should I stick with it?

s1 is kind of weak

it's the best 90s sci-fi.

>>80463661
The Jews suppressed the popularity of this classic science fiction.

Not even joking, Kevin Sorbo revealed the truth of Andromeda's cancellation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWtuKm6C1Sw

>>80463669

Yes, it gets crazy good. The best Dark Sci-FI show out there ( not counting LEXX since it just crosses over into outsider art unwatchable territory)

>>80463785
...why would you do that? ;_;

B5 is the best story you'll get from sci-fi if you can get past the CGI

>>80463785
I don't know man...I'm starting to get all panicky about watching this. I have this feeling this is some sort of inside joke and it's the worst show ever created. It's like the Sci-Fi version of installing Gentoo or Boku no Pico.

good plot some good characters, but lots of shit episodes characters and dialogue. Fun to watch for the plot/lando/garibaldi/reptile guy but I wouldn't have watched it if I didn't have it on splitscreen

Is there some autistic viewing guide like they have for the treks?

>>80463937
That clip was from a spinoff that didn't last.

Never got into it myself, you should try Space Above and Beyond.

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>>80463596

The 1st 2 Seasons of Andromeda were great, then the Producers fired their writing staff and wanted to take the show in a "different direction" and it fell to shit.

Babylon 5 had a rough 1st Season then turned fookin great. The special effects are dated, but if you can live with that and care more about story, watch it.

>>80463937
that clip is from a spinoff show legend of the rangers, which is so objectively awful B5 fans would rather pretend it doesn't exist.

the main show is solid.

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>>80463555
If you can get past the ultra low budget and primitive special effects, B5 is just about the most compelling Sci Fi drama ever seen on TV. If they had a better budget it would easily have toppled DS9.

Season 1 so far has been pretty good imo. Every episode has little nuggets that build a good setting.

>>80464371
>all of them are dead now
it hurts lads

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>>80464254
This is also a good recommendation. It's like a cross between BSG and Starship Troopers. CGI is a bit dated though.

>>80463937
About 5 years after B5 went off the air, The Scifi Channel bought the rights from TNT and tried to make an even lower budget spinoff. It failed horribly and the first episode is all the survives. We like to pretend it never happened. Those were dark times for Scifi.

>>80463767
What does that mean

>>80464468
Star Citizen is actually based on this.

It takes a while to get going, but stick with it.

>>80464727

I don't know. maybe.

Anyone got shots of Thalia Winters topless or porn of her?

>>80463555
from left to right then
Zhaan, d'argo, crichton, aeryn, tranny, pilot?

>>80464948
yes, many of the female cast have been lewd

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Bought the box set

Half way through season 1 and I just couldn't fucking handle it anymore.

If you want a good sci fi series go watch Battlestar Galactica instead

>>80465221
I tried to rewatch BSG recently and couldn't get past the cringe of balthar having sex with thin air.

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>>80465221
Get the fuck out of here.

>>80463555
It's a very good show if you are interested in watching a show for it's story.

>>80465263

It gets worse where literally everyone turns out to be a cylon. it was such a shit show

>>80465305
>go on about MUH FINAL CYLON for 2 seasons
>turns out to be a literal who extra who got 2 scenes in season 1

>>80465221
Haha, nice one.

>>80465221
Just started S01E03 of Babylon 5. I'm not sure how I feel about it yet.

I had my first wank to Na'Toth

>>80466223
She'd rip your junk off m8.

>>80466038
It has some amazing characters and impressive world-building. Even filler episodes each add a small detail to the mythos. Also, the story was all planned before the first episode was filmed (except Sinclair having to leave because he was literally mad IRL)

>>80466573
Yeah that was shit about him losing his mind, apparently the rest of the cast didn't know til years after and thought he was just a dick and difficult to work with on set.

>>80467198
It's a sad fucking story, eh? B5 was a pillar of my childhood and I only found out about this the other day here on /tv/ so I'm watching it all again. Him and Stracyznki seem like bros.

>>80463555
It's extremely good in some ways but incredibly cheesy and awkward in others

Your immediate impression will be all the cheese, awkward dialog and wooden acting and you will have to invest a lot of time to get to the amazing parts (like late London/j'kar relationship)

If you don't have a ton of patience I'd move on

>>80464254
>>80464468
I've never seen anyone else besides me mention space above and beyond on /tv/. That was a great show.

>>80467289
define "tonne of patiencee" ?

i dont have all day and i like to watch my Kineau at home by myself in the dark before i go to bed

>>80463866
>best story from sci-fi
>from a science fantasy
>better sci fi than moon, 2001, ex machina, bsg reboot, Star Trek tos or TNG, or a dozen others I could name

Anon plz.

Guys

The increase in your engagement with B5 will increase exponentially after S1

I, too, watched season 1 and found it to be extremely dull, cheap and uninteresting (no worse than s1 of any Trek, though). I too disbelieved the stories of how good it gets, but by the middle of S2 I was so involved I was actually shouting at the TV.

Believe the hype. It IS the best science fiction TV show ever made. Just persevere...

>>80467414

autism

>>80467392
you sound like a little add faggot who can't stop playing on his phone or pay attention to anything. move along kid this show is too good for likes the of you.

Ivanova's sex scene though..... wew lad.

>>80463661
Im so jealous of daniel jackson for getting to tap that.

>>80467392
I'd just give it a pass anon, just rewatched the first episode a while back and couldn't even get past that, and I fucking loved this show when I was a kid.

I don't remember it well enough to tell you for sure when it started getting really good, I just remember garibaldi being based as fuck, Londo, j'kar, etc being really amazing, the whole shadows/vorlon mystery being really cool, etc

Problem is it takes a while to get to that point

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>>80467414
Kill yourself

>>80464371
I liked most of what they did with their budget, I don't remember anything that stood out as bad. They knew their budget and generally didn't try to do too much, and some of their designs were great.

>>80467522
>>80467670
I'm nostalgic for this show too, but you niggas need to get real

>>80467662
Thanks for the good response

i might skip through the really bad early episodes if it would take me a long time.

>>80464313
>The special effects are dated
They looked pretty cheap even when the show was airing. The production value always kept me away from it.

>>80467414

B5 story is like a novel whereas Moon, 2001, Ex Machina are short stories: not a valid comparison

As for Star Trek TOS and TNG, again, they're more like a collection of short stories, whereas B5 is a single massive story (spanning almost the entire history of the human race) and as a result there are individual episodes of B5 that have more tension and emotional weight than any single ep of a Star Trek.

As for BSG we all know it turned from gold into shit and you can't watch early seasons of BSG without thinking about the terrible ending.

IT WAS THE DAWN OF THE THIRD AGE OF MANKIND

>>80467414
>Moon
>TNG

cheeky bit of bait

>>80467744
>They looked pretty cheap even when the show was airing
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

>>80467748
I'm sorry anon but length isn't equivalent to quality, some of the best sci fi stories ever created have been short stories, and i'd rather read a collection of Asimov shorts than the foundation series.

As for bsg, they might have made some mistakes later on, but at least you can watch the early episodes. I'd have to force myself to watch B5 early eps.

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>>80467748
>B5 story is like a novel whereas Moon, 2001, Ex Machina are short stories: not a valid comparison
This.

>>80467822
>implying either of those are bad

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>>80467744
Then you're a fucking moron anon.

>>80467895
>they might have made some mistakes later on
I think you're understating that the last two seasons are dogshit.

>>80467895
>I'm sorry anon but length isn't equivalent to quality
I don't think you understand what he meant. You can't compare a short story to an epic.

>>80463555
I really liked it when it first aired. Only when it aired it was at like 2am for my area and I was the only person in my school who was watching it.

I think it was the first nail in the coffin for being separated from my peers to such a high level.

Now I'm posting on 4chan for the 13th year in a row.

>>80467960
I think you're overstating

>>80464462
no they're not

S1 and S5 suck but are integral to the larger plotlines. The In The Beginning movie is also integral but you should watch it after season 2 or 3 so you have a better appreciation for whats going on. There are a few standalone eps that you can skip (ex. GROPOS) but i dont have a list. It might be possible to skip alot of season 1 and 5.

>>80464313
By producers you mean Kevin Sorbo who couldn't understand the scripts and decided to turn it into Hercules in Spaaaace.

>>80467791
What do you want?

>>80468019
Are you happy though?

>>80468026
Most, if not all, of the men in that photo are dead.

>>80468110
not Ivanova, Delenn, Boxleitner or Londo

The end credits music reminds me of Deus Ex

>>80463937
The first season is shit. Season 2 is a strong improvement. Seasons 3 and 4 are fucking amazing. Season 5 sees a drop in quality again.

Watch it and stop crying.

oh and there were was a miniseries or some shit released way later. i forget what they were about except something about a demon possessing some dude.

>>80465221
Well meme'd sadiik, mashalla.

>>80466038

It doesn't pick up until about halfway through the first season and doesn't really get great until season 2.

This anon speaks the truth >>80467521 and while this is maximum heresy but skipping to season 2 might be for you.

>>80468154
Boxleitner isn't in the photo and I specifically said men so I'm not sure what you're disputing.

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>>80468101

>>80468264
Don't tell people to skip important character and universe building for the viewer.

>>80468110

That is still pretty weird when you think about it. Most of those guys were barely into their 50's before kicking it but yet we've still got Shatner, Takai, and Koenig floating around.

As a friend of mine used to say "What the fuck did they make the sets out of, cancer?"

>>80468264

Episode 8 of Season 1 is one of the main plot points for the whole show

Byron lives!

>>80468347
The Season 1 Londo/K'gar dynamic is pretty important in understanding their characters and the banter is on form.

>>80464254
don't listen to this faggot

SAAB is an abysmal show

>>80468036
skipping episodes is for 90's born queers.

I always hated the fan divide between B5 and DS9. Both were great shows.

>>80465221
>shitpost about about one of the best sci-fi series ever
>recommend bottom of the barrell garbage

and some wonder why /tv/ is so fucking shitty

>>80467735
Just stop watching you stupid fuck.

I caught the last few episodes my first time and G'Kar was a kind poet sort, I was shocked when I finally watched from the beginning and he was an utter twat, arranging assasinations and such.

He did a full 360 in character.

>>80468358

> "What the fuck did they make the sets out of, cancer?"

that's been known to happen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conqueror_(film)#Cancer_controversy

>>80468206
Nope, didn't happen.

>>80468518
Lwuxana Troi was great as Londos wife.

Is the Expanse any good?

>>80468206
the lost tales, that demon episode was a really cool idea.

>>80468358
Andreas lived entirely on a diet of black coffee, cigarettes and sarcasm. He literally smoked himself into an early grave.

Richard got incredibly unlucky and died after a medical procedure.

Michael struggled with mental health issues and in the end they got the better of him and literally killed him with a stress induced heart attack.

Jerry's former alcohol abuse caught up with him and killed him.

And we all know what happened to Jeff.

>>80468626
Yes.

>>80468518

Didn't help that they were showing at the same time of night so if you weren't lucky enough to have a vcr you'd have to choose.

>>80468304
Small changes in the initial conditions lead to large scale upheavals.

In other words, do little things now to improve your situation and work toward your own happiness.

>>80467707
>, I don't remember anything that stood out as bad
The insectoids should have never been filmed. B5 made many smart compromises to work with the limited budget they had but the insectoids were high school drama club tier.

Much of the cgi now looks dated, especially the computer displays but that's not too distracting. The mid 90s textured paint fad found its way into some of the set design but since fashion is circular, who's to say that wouldn't be back in favor when the station was built.

>>80468552
I guess you're not used to seeing actual character development.

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>>80468670
At least Bruce Willis got to shag Thalia Winters on the reg

>>80468749
>men all having a laugh
>women doing super sexy look at me poses
fucking roasties i swear

>>80468711
>lucky enough to have a vcr
most people had them in 1994

>>80468733
I was a kid, the fuck you expect?

What of the time ever had character growth to that degree? Everything was monster of the week episode resets at the end.

>>80468816
>the fuck you expect?
not talking like a nigger for one

I still want to fuck the shit out of Claudia Christian. It's a shame I wasn't old enough to go to fan conventions in the 90s. I've heard she fucked a couple fans during her alcoholic period.

>>80468749
Right in the feels.

There's another shot of this were they're all flipping off the camera, it great.

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>>80468036
Byron should die and be erased from the memories of everyone unfortunate enough to watch that arc.

Though many didn't like the technomages, I thought they were an interesting group that fit in well with many of the larger themes of the series. Just wish they had a less cringey name.

Just watching an episode in S1 called Omens and Portents and it's fucking good if you know what's coming lads

>>80468440
this

only retarded ADHD millennials skip episodes on their first viewing of a series

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>>80468358
>Koenig
But he was also in B5.

>>80468954
Galen was probably the best thing about Crusade. He was like a cross between Gandalf and Richard O Brian from the Crystal Maze.

>>80468552
He was also a lecherous horn dog in the first season. The character gained quite a bit of depth after that first season.

Londo and G'Kar were fucking amazing. If I had to pick between the two I'd pick G'Kar.

>>80469401
>tfw Londo's premonition about G'Kar came true.

Ah, Londo...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTJ6KDJSma0

A reminder that Marcus was eventually cured and defrosted years in the future after everyone else died.

He cloned Susan, had her memories put in the clone and "stranded" them on an uninhabited moon together. This is canon.

>>80468872
>Born too late to fuck Carrie
>Born too late to fuck Claudia
>Born too early for another day, another holo

Worst timeline.

>>80469061
Wtf I hate ColecoVision now!

>>80468954
It's a bit poo that Byron was forced on us because the scripts were thrown out by a cleaning lady and Byron was pulled out of a hat because of a tight schedule.

>>80469144
And now I want Galen to present the new series of Crystal maze since Riff-Raff isn't coming back.

>>80468872
Is that why the tribble shot her?

>>80469695
>born to late to fuck Claudia.

I'd probably still give it a go family.

>>80469203
>horn dog
that never stopped being the case

>>80469695
we can't be too far off that holo brothel

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>>80469895
>It's a bit poo

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>>80472796
Bester was a great character

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>>80472989
Most of the corps are.

>>80463555
It really wasn't that good.It played out the typical tropes with mediocre actors. Hidden enemy that wants to destroy the universe, main character savior, tight assed female 2nd in control, political rivals in the background, and even at the time, really bad CGI battles.

Not a great show. Give it a try if you're interested. There are better sci-fi series from the era (Farscape and Stargate SGI). Firefy couldn't compete against live numbers. People watched Farscape live but recorded firefly for later. Both series failed because their viewe

>>80467952
I can see Sheridan saying that.

Bruce Boxleitner was fucking GOAT.

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obligatory

I just finished season 2. Give it a chance. Really. 2nd half of season 1 and then season 2 are REALLY good.

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>>80474641
>Stargate SGI

>>80474947
At the time I was angry when they replaced Sinclair but he really won me over.

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>>80475388
He had it down pat. I loved him trying to get the League of Non-Aligned Worlds to work together.

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I have to go to work now, keep this thread alive.

>>80468954
Technomages were goat, Byron a shit.

Fucking hell, it was obvious they were setting up a teep war. Why make the central figure some new comer lame ass who sucks cock for rent money?

Drunk as fuck, feet in the air, jerking off with a finger in my asshole I make a more convincing "leader" than that twat.

>>80475562
>Intersections in Real Time
What a great episode. Have you listened to JMSs commentary of it? If not, it's definitely worth the watch. Most of the commentaries for the episodes are great, but that one is particularly good.

>>80474641
Firefly died because they put it on Friday night at 8PM. That's where you send shit to die. In addition the studio aired shit out of order. The studio went out of its way to tank the show for whatever reason.

Farscape had a 4 season run, nothing wrong with that.

The SG series had a super loyal fanbase, but like Trek its most episodes in bottles with no real arc to speak of.

B5 was great for it's arcs, character arcs and story arcs. They were planned out, things that happen at the end of the run are foreshadowed in S1 and S2. It's a complete, comprehensive story that knows what it's doing. However, it doesn't lend itself to mindless viewing like TNG or SG1. You need to pay attention to get the most out of B5.

>>80470918
You seen the 80s scifi where she's possessed by an alien and she discovers she has tits? Its worth it tbqhf

>>80463555
Season One wasn't very good. It tried to be a show about the space station with each episode being sorta stand-alone and it kinda sucked.

It's been a while but I remember the show gets way better after the first captain disappears.

Then it is dogshit again after the Shadow War ends.

>>80477392
>It tried to be a show about the space station with each episode being sorta stand-alone

No. The show had an overarching main plot in mind since its inception (for four seasons anyway). All the filler episodes early on were about universe building.

Anyone done a rewatch lately? I finished one up recently and the fucking ISN episodes, which I always loved, were so on point it was painful.

>>80472989
Bester a best.

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>>80477643
This is my first watch, and some black telepathic guy just pulled a Dr. Manhattan.

>>80478853
Some foreshadowing stuff right there.

>>80477293
The Hidden? I fucking love that movie.

>>80463555
The Robert Hewitt Wolfe seasons of Andromeda are fucking great.

The second episode of Babylon 5 is a firewall.

>DS9 fans are now falseflagging and shitposting about B5 no stop

we already have to deal with their "le poor man's DS9" meme in every B5 thread but now they are getting even more obnoxious

>>80480027
>DS9 fans
Oh nooooo... how dare somebody like BOTH green AND purple at the same time???

>>80480091
but DS9 fags don't like B5
I mean they don't even have the mental capacity to appreciate the best that the star trek franchise has to offer so how could they ever appreciate something far superior and more cerebral?

>>80480150
>but DS9 fags
I'm one.
>don't like B5
And I do like B5.

What now?

>>80480213
you're clearly lying

what now?

liar BTFO

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Wrong. >>80480213 is telling the truth.

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>>80478333

>>80480150
Stop making shit up.

>>80480331
Starfuries make so much damn sense as space fighters.

>>80463817
>not counting LEXX
First season of Lexx is GOAT though.

>another thread ruined by DS9 manchildren
What's the problem? there wasn't any other Star Trek thread to ruin?

>>80480436
Thread was great until you showed up.

>>80480773
no it wasn't

>>80463817
the Lexx was a comedy without a laugh track.

"It was a distress signal! They always lead to trouble, so I ignored it!" - 790

>>80463937
what are you afraid of? that if you watch it, you'll somehow be marked with the number of the beast and all the patrician posters in /tv/ will somehow be able to see it and they'll laugh at you?

are you afraid you might spend two weeks of your life watching this and then regret it? "god damn, i could have been playing mario kart all that time! what a fool i've been!"