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After having read this, I've never regretted anything more than giving this motherfucker my money last Friday night

http://mashable.com/2016/11/28/jordan-vogt-roberts-kong-skull-island-twitter-rant-seatmate-alt-right/#mdjliwVKr5qQ
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>>80364062

It's his own fault for making a biopic of Michelle Obama.
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>>80364062
>only three of the characters in Kong were black
>one of them dies (and he was the bad guy)
>nearly no whiteys die

Seriously, can we spam this fuckers twitter calling him a racist?
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he deleted all his tweets

*cough*bullshitter*cough*
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>I can't do this anymore. I feel like I'm sitting next the the physical manifestation of the white male patriarchy's dying breath. Sleep time
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>>80364062
that's capitalism m80, suck it
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>>80364204
lol. what a bitch
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I can go for weeks without talking about politics with strangers. Clearly the tweeter was provoking a reaction to feign victim hood
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But he alreaddy has your money you triggered lil snowflake cunt

nah nah nah nana faggot *blows a raspberry*
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>>80364062
>mom i'm posting on the internets
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Take my money abdul omar turk
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>>80364062
Well his ex-gf said he's small and his had a foursome with his friend, her and another chick and they licked whip cream off each other.
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>>80364062
>this is the faggot directing the MGS movie
pack it in lads
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>>80364062
What kind if pussy are you?
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>>80364187
>nearly no whiteys die
Except for the entire platoon full of white dudes.
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>>80364204
self hating faggot

>oy vey white males are so empowered because they have been serfs for all their history and then won a war against white males in ww1 and ww2 killing millions of white males
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>>80364062
Who gives a shit

You give money to people who have different beliefs than you all the time, you just don't realize it.
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>>80364187
>nearly no whiteys die
lots of heli pilots who i think were white died plus toby kebbel
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>Kong: Skull Island director Jordan Vogt-Roberts was on a flight Sunday night when he tweeted that he noticed his seat-mate was scrolling through his "heavily alt-right dominated Facebook feed."

>What started out as the unabashedly liberal filmmaker's commentary on the "self-made echo chamber" of fake Facebook news very quickly spiraled into a confrontation

Facebook confirmed for fake news
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seems familiar

14:21 to 16:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8vaJaFCFYA
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>>80364187
Was there even a single Muslim in Kong?

Silent Islamophobia is still Islamophobia.
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What a faggot
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>>80364062
>Literally falling for the jew
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>>80364338
>"self-made echo chamber" of fake Facebook news
this is true, but it's not confined to right or left viewpoints, is he dumb enough to not realize that? oh wait yes he is because he make Kong Skull Island, which is a dumb as fuck movie, a 10 year old could make a better Kong movie than he did
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This guy just tweeted enough evidence to convict him with petty theft and transporting stolen property across state lines
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>>80364354
Kong was Muslim, it was in the subtext
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>can't mind your own business in public without others spying on you and broadcasting everything you do to social media
why is this legal
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>>80364438
Well OK, as long as he identified as queer.
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>>80364470
become an alpha male, i guarantee the guy who got chewed out didnt look or behave alpha

save your father and people will not fuck with you
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>>80364187
>>only three of the characters in Kong were black
>>one of them dies (and he was the bad guy)
Damn, so Kong dies?
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he's been confirmed to have a small penis

explains everything lmao
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>>80364062
Well, did you enjoy the movie? If you did, why would it fucking matter what the director does or says? You sound mental, m8, like those tumblr whores getting triggered because they looked at them funny. Keep your shit together.
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>king kong
Skull Island is a fucking patriarchy and I literally cannot even.
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>>80364271

What the fuck, it's real

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4149576/Director-Vogt-Roberts-claims-blackmail-Brittany-Furlan.html
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>>80364062
>spy on the guy sitting next to you
>flip out on your Twitter for no reason other than MUH RETWEETS
>start an argument with some guy who is just minding his own business
>get into a physical altercation
>HAHA TAKE THAT DRUMPFTARD

Was it autism?
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>>80364692
We're in a cold civil war, so politics have kind of infected everything and made everyone on edge. Trump & Bannon are defusing this through an exhaustion strategy, but it'll take a couple years until the left is all tuckered out.
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>being this triggered over a pissing contest on a plane between a director and some nobody over said nobody's Facebook

WHY DO PEOPLE CARE ABOUT THIS SHIT
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>>80364738
You're really overblowing the reaction to this. Stop being a fag.
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>someone disagrees with me
>BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT
ya'll sound like SJWs lmao
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>>80364062
tl;dr: Liberal faggot acts like some middle-aged conservative is a monster for accidentally dropping a wine glass and not eating not the exact way he thinks he should
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>>80364779

Nobody called for a boycott. Everyone just thinks this dude is a fag.

Now quit making shit up.
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>>80364062
what the hell ever happened with "mind your own business"?
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>Needing politics to justify feeling bad for paying to see absolute dogshit.

That's a problem right there.
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>>80364062
I got tired like twenty tweets in. I can't read anymore.

Goddamn is it disgusting to read about people better in life shitting on those beneath them. Fuck this guy.
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>>80364062
After hearing how insecure he is on Doug loves movies I won't see the movie
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>>80364417
To be fair, I saw research showing that the majority of fake news articles accessed via Facebook were from right-wing websites.
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>>80365068
Now ask yourself, would someone doing that study have any reason to lie to you?

Any reason at all?
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>>80365068
That's because those "researchers" didn't classify sites like HuffPo, Salon and Buzzfeed as fake news.
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>>80365136
But those aren't fake news sites. They're websites with heavily-biased news.

There's a difference between "The Pope Endorses Donald Trump" and "Donald Trump Says Another Thing I Consider Offensive."
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>>80364129
fucking kek
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>>80364062
tell me, why does he wear the beard?
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>this is the same man who will be making the Metal Gear Solid movie.

As an MGS fan, I already don't want this movie to happen. Now I am even more worried he'll skew the politics in a fucktarded anti-Trump message that'll even make Democrats cringe, ala family guy.
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>>80364643

Word

For

Word
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>>80365177
Yet they included Breitbart which is just the far right equivalent of those sites
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>>80364779
:^)
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>>80364779
No, if we were SJW's, we'd be trying to get it banned altogether.
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>>80364669
>Day-lie mail
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>>80364669
Now /pol/tards can't decide if he's a cuck or an alpha. Did he get pissed on like Don?
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>>80364062
I don't care he's a liberal sjw so am I but he acts like a whiny cuck. Who the fuck spends their flight tweeting about someone else's fb posts? Didn't have the balls to start a conversation with him. Acted like a bitch.
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What is it with liberals and not being able to handle other people who have a different political view than them? There was that one video that was posted on this board like a month or so ago with some old lady with a buzzcut harassing this chubby guy who was wearing some Trump attire. She (and her husband who was just there) got kicked out of the plane because she was causing such a scene.
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>>80364129
funny AND original!
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>>80364062
Remind me of when the poo from silicone valley and ghis friend were "threatened" by "alt right" "Trump supporters" after the election.

>Trump's America y'all.
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>>80364779
>no one buys ivanka's clothes cause they are mexico-made garbage
>nordstroms decides to drop ivanka's clothes cause no one is buying them
>"BOYCOTT NORDSTROMS!! BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT MAGA MAGA MAGA"

boycotts are how right wing retards respond to normal everyday life
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well theres a movie i wont ever give money to. whining numale bitch
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>>80365292
>when your brain is so jumbled you can only reply with memes
Your parents must be proud.
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>>80365255
>entire series is about stopping nuclear war
>trump wants countries to have more nuclear weapons
>trump has stated he wants to use nukes and has questioned advisors about why we can't just nuke our enemies

the mgs saga is already anti-trump, because trump is a retard
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>>80365126
other than your own pre-conceived biases, do you have any reason to believe that study is wrong?

do you have any evidence whatsoever to suggest that right wing websites do not make up the majority of "fake news" on facebook? or you are simply rejecting an otherwise valid study because you disagree with the conclusions?
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>>80365540
hurr
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>>80364779
The real story here is White Male Director gets victimized by revenge porn by Pussypass but /pol/tards triggered by (whatever) so they ignore the clear role-reversal opportunity to get whiny. Are the alt-right taking sides with scamming bitches now? Alt-right meltdown
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>>80364974
it died with the freedom of information act
your business is everyone's business, especially the government's.
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>>80364129
HOW WILL SHE EVER RECOVER
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>>80364723
>believing in these delusional things
Is why everyone thinks you are dumb autistic retards.

One can only guess what other stupid bullshit you believe.
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>>80364062
>If creator of some form of entertainment does not agree with me politically 1:1 I can not enjoy any of his work
how do you people function
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>>80365293
Breitbart is literally not news.
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>>80365466
>What is it with liberals and not being able to handle other people who have a different political view than them?
Ah yes, that only Liberal thing only Liberals do. It couldn't possibly be a /pol/ or alt-Right trait at all. It is completely rational to shoot up pizzerias and cancel Netflix subscriptions because of blacks.
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>>80364062
I don't see what he did wrong.
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>>80365489
>hate crimes literally increased more than half after the election
>inb4 I get meme'd at that hate crimes are just a prank bro XD
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>>80365772
Did the creator of the frog have anything to do with that shirt? It is fucking ugly and borderline lazy as fuck
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>>80365855
Well I've not heard or seen about shit like this coming from the "alt-right". Coincidentally, all those protests you hear about are from liberals and not Trump supporters.
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>>80365466
>What is it with liberals and not being able to handle other people who have a different political view than them?
>OP literally crying because he paid to see a movie made by someone who doesn't hold the exact same political views as him
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>>80365895
Pretty sure that guy hasn't been involved with any of the unregistered use of his art outside the books
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>>80365876

Are more hate crimes being committed or are more being reported?
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>>80365858
Using twitter when you're not Donald Trump is wrong
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>>80365943
>is sad.
Fixed.
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>>80365922
Get back to me when people like OP cause trouble on planes over this shit, m8. It's just shitposting as usual on here otherwise.
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>>80365876
They were literally just victim LARPing for internet attention
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>>80365917
>Well I've not heard or seen about shit like this coming from the "alt-right"
Then you are delusionally oblivious to the point of actual retardation. Sorry to say. I mean, I get it, you kiddos are too underage to remember how fucking batshit the Right has been for the last near decade but if you have an internet connection, it's an easy fix.
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>>80364062
>mashable.com

literally who?
where do you guys find this shit?
these are literally no-name fucking blog sites written by 20-year-olds, how the fuck do you find this stuff
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>>80365917
>I've not heard or seen about shit like this coming from the "alt-right"
Where does it come from then?
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>>80365965
>Alt-right
>the Right
>kiddos
>underage

Meh, just fuck off already.
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>>80365965
>you kiddos are too underage to remember how fucking batshit the Right has been for the last near decade
>getting right and left mixed up
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>>80365941
More are being reported because more are happening. I know you kids like to cite FBI stats, well, they literally back this up. So either the FBI is in on a major liberal conspiracy or...more hate crimes are happening and getting reported.

Liberals aren't burning down mosques
>inb4 wahhhh muh statistically small amount of riots
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>>80366005
Spotted the underage. No, I didn't get them mixed up faggot. The Right has been a cartoon all through Obama's presidency.
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>>80365986
Nice rebuttal. Get off this board.
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>>80365588
>you are simply rejecting an otherwise valid study because you disagree with the conclusions?
The "study" hasn't been sourced by anyone it is literally that poster's fucking opinion and even if it had been what reason do you or I have to believe it was at all a "valid" study? Fuck off retard.
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>>80365968
Never understood the
>it's made/done by a millenial
argument.
Every time it just feels like it's supposed to be trahslated as
>I can't hadle a person younger than me being more smart/successful/passionate/interesting/skilled than me
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>>80364062
His beard is disgusting and his movie is mediocre.
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>>80366011
Check'd and Alt Right weenies on suicide watch
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>>80365985
Where does what come from? People unsubscribing from Netflix is hardly comparable to the coordinated physical violence routinely enacted by the left.

The supposed "alt-right" are angels compared to the literal communists running around attacking anyone who disagrees with them.
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>>80364062
I wasn't really planning on watching this movie, but now I will for sure.
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>>80365968
They need to be in a constant state of fear and anger to effort justify voting for a clown that makes them look more retarded as the days go by.

You don't have to self-reflect if the enemies are at the gates, and in the homes and in your neighborhoods and in your head, forever.>>80366093
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>>80366011
>One crazy guy burns down a mosque

vs

>Hundreds of leftists take to the streets to burn public property and beat people up in a coordinated act of political violence
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Sounds totally made up.
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>>80366093
>coordinated physical violence routinely enacted by the left
>attacking anyone who disagrees with them
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>>80366083
but im saying there are fucking thousands of these no name bullshit sites run by nobodies in college dorms or whatever, why does anyone care about this shit or this faggots opinions/blog?
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>>80364062
I was thinking of going to see the movie, but fuck that.
FUCK HOLLYWOOD.
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>>80366119
>public property
Nope.
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>>80366119
>coordinated physical violence meme
First off all you delusional faggot:
1. The majority of all national protests have been civil and nonviolent
2. Only a select minority have been remotely violent (I guess you failed to mention that the largest organized protest in US history had nearly 3 mil and 5 arrests)
3. You don't even know the political affiliations of every protestor, as some were just ANTFA fags taking advantage
4. You have no proof that the violence was organized or paid for.
5. Hate crime statistics are real numbers backed by the fucking FBI you all love so much to quote.

Kill yourself you delusional shitlord
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So Trump voters are shitheads? Shocking news
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>>80366119
Ah yes, it was just one guy burning down a mosque. Silly me. That was probably just an accident. He slipped on a match and happened to burn Muslims to the ground. He's just crazy, so that makes it less of a hate crime.
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>>80366185
Why are you condemning violent protests? It's not like it's a bad thing.
And now you're literally playing by this fag's rules.
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>>80364354
This

Fucking Islamophobic director
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trump cuck btfo again
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>>80366144
>Advocating thought crimes

No idea is too dangerous to peacefully debate. No thought should ever be grounds for physical violence. If you disagree with my first amendment rights you are free to suck on my AR.

>>80366168
>Trashcans, signs, dumpsters, and police cars are not city property

Even if it's private property, that doesn't change anything. The crimes of the "alt-right" pale in comparison to the coordinated savagery of the left.
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Why was this man reading another man's phone like a jealous lover?
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>>80366228
I don't agree with protesting being violent at all. Not unless it is an extreme option in an extreme circumstance in the face of tyranny against human rights.
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>>80366241
This is seriously like 5 levels of sad.
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>>80364354

How did you manage to watch this movie without noticing Kong?
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>>80364062
He looks like a muslim. I'm not gonna pay for this shit. I was looking forward to Brie Larson's tits bouncing in that tank top, but it's not worth it.
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>>80366228
t. ANTIFA cockgobbler
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>>80364338
>Read another guys phone
>Get called a cunt

Oh god its the alt right help me.
I love how this guy instigated the confrontation but apparently he's the victim
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>>80366248
What sort of peaceful debate can you have about the master Aryan race and gassing all Jews? Please indulge me, how does one engage in civil discours then?
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>>80366119
>xenophobically angry at a group of people who just happen to share the same religion with a bunch of fanatics somewhere in the Middle East
vs
>angry at the crooked system
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>>80364338
It's quite sad that he talks about an echo chamber, but won't admit that most of the media we see on TV, newspapers or the net are a huge leftwing echo chamber. I can count about three rightwing news outlets compared to the twenty or so left biased ones, just off the top of my head.
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>>80364779
>Voting with your wallet is the same as tyrannical censorship
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>>80366285
they dont show any bouncing and when she gets wet in the water there's no seethrough nippage shown either
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>>80364062
Literally nothing in that conversation was "alt-right".
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>>80366293

Yeah literally everyone around me on a plane is looking at something retarded who cares. I am too busy trying to be comfortable and sleep.
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>>80366138

It's too convenient that shit like this doesn't require any evidence. I mean who would give a shit anyways? You have to be some sort of super-neurotic scumbag to go off on a tirade over some random shit that doesn't effect you.
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>>80364062
Live and learn, normal human beings hate nazis.
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>>80366330
What a waste. I'm not even gonna torrent this shit.
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>>80366248
>suck on my AR.
Woah, what a tough guy we have here! Was your bedtime extended for being a good little NEET? Did Grandpa Ruckus let you touch his rifle while wearing your favorite Don't Tread on Me hat?
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>>80366248
>No thought should ever be grounds for physical violence
Uh-huh.
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>>80365543
>Being anti-nukes when it's the only thing that prevented WW3
You're as dumb as Kojima.
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>>80366185

Yea sure the protests are civil and nonviolent
They want someone else to do their evil for them
Keeps their hands clean

kill all libs
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>>80366338
>having the same overall political stance as Churchill, FDR, de gaulle and so on means you're a nazi
Why are teachers so bad at teaching history?
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>>80366364
Well, no thought aside from communism. Communists should be shot, that goes without saying.
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>>80366185
They dindu nufin :D
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>>80366383
None of those people held extreme-right authoritarian beliefs though and would probably call you a whining faggot if they wasted their precious time to meet you in your dumb tard MAGA hat.
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>A perfect visual: man is too fat to reach his shoes under his seat because the black dude in front of him has his seat rightfully reclined.
I mean there is literally no legroom if you arent in the aisle seat
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>>80366304
Unless you can prove through debate that it's morally wrong to gas Jews, then why should anyone have any reason to think it's immoral?

Neonazis present a clear and constructed thesis on why Jews need to be removed from society. If your only counter argument is "because I said so" then your opinion holds no weight.

>>80366307
>Strawman argument

Nice try.
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>>80366404
>people with different economic beliefs
>should be shot because my propaganda movies said they bad
>I love free speech
Right, conservatives sure are paragons of freedom.
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>>80366364

I have no idea what the fuck sort of message your image is supposed to convey.
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>>80366443
>Neonazis present a clear and constructed thesis on why Jews need to be removed from society
Kek, what ridiculous bait. I cringe if you actually believe this, but we both know you don't.
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>>80366248
Whom is this savagery aimed at exactly?
So far I've seen antifas in your country bashing the nazis (I refuse to use the term "alt-right"), the pigs, and also the property of the state, banks, Starbucks and such.
I never saw them misanthropically or xenophobically attacking the people.
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>>80366420
>None of those people held extreme-right authoritarian beliefs
Neither do I, you just think nationalism is extreme. FDR was one of the most authoritarian presidents ever, every single one of those people were in favor of nationalism, degaulle and churchill in fact were in favor of ethnically homogeneous countries.
Literally take the opinions of each of those three one by one, don't tell someone who they were, they'd tell you they were some fascistnazievilbaddie.
Nobody hated hitler because he was an ethnic nationalist, they hated him because of totalitarianism and aggressive military foreign policy.
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>>80366420
>None of those people held extreme-right authoritarian beliefs

FDR unilaterally imprisoned an entire race of US citizens solely for national security concerns.

Churchill authorized the firebombing of civilian targets.

By todays standards, those are EXTREMELY authoritarian right wing actions.
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>>80366470
Because denial is a beautiful thing and we have 4k tvs now, and a new Transformers coming out.
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>>80366443
>Neonazis present a clear and constructed thesis on why Jews need to be removed from society
Antifas present well-executed punches and stomps as the only valid counter-argument. Case solved.
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>there are people in this thread attempting to justify violent rioting over trivial shit

A new low point I see.
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It's not even about politics. Just two idiots acting childish. Kong dude was worse because of this sneaky twitter shit and because he was too passive agressive to properly confront old guy about his broken stuff
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>He's going pull for pull on red wine & coffee while blasting through alt-right conspiracy feeds. I think he's achieved hatred enlightenment.

>He just switched from red wine to scotch. He literally has one glass in each hand alternating like pistons in an engine.

>Transcript of him ordering:
>Him: Red
>Her: what?
>Him: Coffee
>Her: red coffee?
>Him: Red
>Her: Wine?
>Him: coffee
>Her: which one?
>Him: both
>WTF

>When he asked to switch to scotch he looked at the stewardess and said "M'lady" in a slightly sensual tone. Creep factor: 9000

this guy
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>>80365543
Being anti-Nukes is one thing (even though nukes stop being the vector for La Le Lu Li Lo control by MGS2 and instead become meme control).

But if this director goes out of his way to make a direct reference to Trump, a trump tweet, or anything, it's going to be a cringe fest, and the movie won't stand the test of time, and it'll just get hardcore MGS fans to nerd-rage.

Besides, at the time of MGS1 happening, Solidus/George Sears was the President, and was pushing an anti-Nuke narrative (probably for his own goals with Arsenal Gear).
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>>80366445
A) I'm not a conservative
B) You can't give a right to someone who is going to use it to take it away from everybody else.
Communists want to violently overtake society by killing people and looting all around, which means I'm justified in pre-emptively striking against them.
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>>80366470
>It's okay to hurt people whos only crime is disagreeing with me

You heard it here first. Burning mosques and synagogues is perfectly justified because I disagree with those people.
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>>80366496
Ethnic nationalism is still a retarded and outdated concept to hide your other shitty beliefs behind. And that's all it is, a cloak to hide the dumber shit you probably believe in due to your low IQ.

Point me to a high IQ nationalist.
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>>80366443
>Strawman
Any other reason to burn a mosque?
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>>80366508
Why didn't he have a full charge before he went on a flight?
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>>80366465
Even the most retarded argument beats "because I said so."
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>>80366500
>Churchill and FDR
>are far-right
I'm seriously like an eye-roll away from being done with this board forever. It just gets more retarded as the days go by.
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>>80364723
>Trump
>defusing anything
>while lying about Obama wire tapping him

Nah, he's the biggest issue. Plus with how he's frames most media a lot of people will only listen to what he says, which is also lies.
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Is it the new /tv/ trend to be pretend to be a full blown SJW?
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>>80366546
>Ethnic nationalism is still a retarded and outdated concept
lol
Says who?
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>>80366580
That's part of the exhaustion strategy you flaming retard.
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>>80366522
>Communists want to violently overtake society by killing people and looting all around
Yes, nice boogeyman there kiddo.
>I am justified in striking them down
No, precrime isn't a thing you knee jerk reacrionary retard.

Are you a real and functioning adult? Where should I have you checked in?
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>>80366539
See >>80366144
Also:
Not all muslims are pro-ISIS or pro-Sharia state.
All nazis are pro-nazi.
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>>80366546
>it's the current year!
>you're just wrong!
>ad hominem!
>you're right that they held extreme beliefs compared to the overton window of today but let me move the goalpost

wow...is this...the power of leftists arguments?
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>>80366580
Yes, it's important that people only listen to CNN's blatant lies rather than Trump's idiocy.
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>>80366592
Says most of the first world that isn't "a handful of Americans and a few internet forums".
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>>80366599
>Yes, nice boogeyman there kiddo.

What is Antifa. What is B.A.M.N.
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>>80366599
>Communists rising to power through insane levels of violence? Total boogeyman!
K
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>>80366522
This.

Rights such as the first amendment only work when all parties involved are willing to respect each others rights. The whole concept of "I disagree with what you say, but I'd fight to the death for your right to say it" thing doesn't work when the guy you disagree with wants to ban free speech.

Communists should not be afforded any rights, because if they had their way they would afford us none.
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>>80366445
You seem upset, did we trigger you?
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>>80366618
They are small and extreme homeland terrorist groups that play pretend communist.
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>>80366613
Ah so you mean countries that have been going drastically down hill since their ethnic homogeneity was ruined? Where large underclasses of non-whites live on government dole?
Who are now voting for far right parties because its fucking ruining their countries?
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>SOMEBODY SAID SOMETHING POLITICAL THAT I DON'T AGREE WITH AND NOW I'M FUCKING SEETHING!!!
Why are /pol/luters worse tumblrinas ?
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>>80366625
>believing that anyone who even remotely holds communist views
>deserves to be fucking shot
>this is rational
Right
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The real question here is why /tv/ is filled with triggered redditors that spam cuck posting and start growling the moment they see somebody with rightwing opinions.
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>>80366630
People used to fight duels to the death over their honor
"Right to free speech" does not mean what liberals think it means
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>>80364062
So the moral of the story is that it's not only acceptable, but right to take things that don't belong to you as long as you make up a bullshit sob story and tell it to all of your friends.
That's a perfect summation of the left.
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>>80366625
>rising to power
Oh, so that's what you're fearing. That's what you believe is the aim of antifa protests. Alright, I see now. Thanks for spelling this out.
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>>80366639
I won't be the first or last one to explain to you why everything you just said was dumb but this isn't /pol/, I'm not wasting my effort on these strawmen. Read a fucking book or something, idk.
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>>80366634
>play pretend communist.

So, basically like any other authoritarian state that tried and failed at the Gommunism meme?

Marxism killed 94 million people from the years 1900-2000. (Not advocating for it, but facism killed 24 million). Why should we ever let Marxist get a chance to kill more people?
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>>80366657
Evidently it is rational, since anyone who voted for Trump is now considered a radical neonazi who deserves to have his ass kicked.
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>>80366630
Therefore nazis and fascists shouldn't be afforded that either, because they want to take away the free speech/rights of other citizens (jews, brown people et al).
their reasoning is to take away the rights of the opposition, so by your argument, a good boot to the back of their skull is an appropriate argument in kind.
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>>80366657
Dude, it's called a hyperbole, I don't think holding private beliefs is ground for being shot. Publicly agitating for them when there is a risk of people actually falling for their memes is ground for imprisonment or exile, ideally.

>>80366682
Nah, they're just LARPing.
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>>80366559
Because of Trump i guess
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>>80366455

It's been poorly edited to target liberals instead of republicans or alt-right or some shit.
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>>80366603
Show me a high IQ nationalist that makes a rational and compelling argument then.

I'll wait.
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>>80366703
Death to ALL Authortarians, left and right.
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>>80366664
I'm surprised that so many people still think that free speech means that you can say whatever the hell you want without facing any consequences (when in fact it ONLY guarantees that you cannot be shut up by the government).
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>>80366692
>lol whatevs, I don't have to prove anything to you shithead
got em
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>>80366710
>no I just want to imprison you or exile you for free speech and believing things I don't like
Oh, my mistake then. How tolerant of you.
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>>80366714
Styxexenhammer666
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>>80366733
Because it's one of those arguments that most of the educated world just isn't having.
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>>80364062
>For 10 painful minutes I've watched him fail at connecting his phone to a portable charger. He doesn't realize it's the wrong cord. Oy...
>Oy
People use this unironically?
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>>80366648
>Obviously ignoring the fact this liberal tumblerina started a triggered holy crusade on tweeter because some guy on a plane was browsing articles that oppose his comfy world view.

I swear to god since libcucks like you got BTFO by Trump's victory you guys became the worst type of shitposters that have this annoying "NO YOU!" way of making arguments which is fruitless and bad enough as it is but becomes even more cancerous when you combine it with the typical old "the fact you replied/laughed at me means I already won" smug bullshit.
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>>80366716
I can jive with that
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>>80366713
>there are places where "medical bills" are a thing and people actually have to PAY for medical treatment
Amazes me every time.
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>>80366714
Donald Trump

>Inb4 "he's stupid" meme

He's a multibillionaire and bested a gauntlet of highly experienced politicians to achieve the highest political office on the planet. Agree with him or not, he's not stupid.
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>>80366714
Henry de lesquen

stay mad crybabie
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>>80366714
So, you admit you were completely wrong when saying that those people didn't hold extreme beliefs as compared to today's norm? Which means that characterizing people who hold the same beliefs as them as nazis is completely stupid (i.e. low iq behavior) since those people literally fought nazis?
Because if there's someone who is demonstrating a low IQ here in this discussion, it's not me.

Anyway, that's not how it works, if you say something is stupid, you have to show why. I can point out that keeping a european state ethnically homogeneous means higher social trust and average IQ not going down, which be themselves should be good enough arguments in support of it, but the burden on proof is on you since you decided to call it stupid.
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>>80366757
The entire "educated world" is freaking out about the rise of nationalism and the far right actually.
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>>80366692
Yea we have disastrous policies that have been engaged in since the 50's. There is a complicit media to actively cover up all problems and spew the government line.

They tell us that our countries are based on "values" and "ideas" rather than actual tangible concepts like ancestry or race.
It's all a fucking lie that eventually falls apart due to its internal contradictions, but thats kinda the whole point.

Meanwhile the non-whites engage in ethnic based political activism, and you liberal piece of shits see nothing wrong with that. The root of liberalism is treason.
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>>80366596
Yeah, nah, he just knows that the mainstream news has discredited itself so badly that he can easily get away with blatant lying. Now whenever someone calls him out his supporters can say "fake news :)".

>>80366610
>clearly state both are liars
>"YOU JUST LIKE CNN, RIGHT FAG?"

(you) have the reading comprehension of a toddler.
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>>80366716
BTW, are Murrican antifas the authoritarian left? Cuz in my remote wasteland they're mostly anarchists.
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The guy next to him is human garbage, deserved to be humiliated and have his phone charger stolen for breaking his without a care.
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>>80366714
Oh wait, you made it even easier, you didn't say ethnic nationalist, you just said nationalist.
So let's see, high iq people, for example, every single smart person since the invention of nationalism who was not a marxist or an imperialist before the second half of the 20th century.
Well, that was easy.
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>>80366331

people i disagree with are alt-right
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>>80366792
>falling for the "Trump is smart" meme
He inherented close to 100 mil and hired other people to run his shit for him. Wake the fuck up you delusional retard. He is the village idiot of billionaires and rarely taken seriously in international business.

What does that say about him winning a fucking election? What does that say about you?
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>>80366813
"liberalism"
lol, Adam Smith is rolling in his grave
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>Call everyone who points out problems a "racist"
>Insist there is nothing wrong
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>>80366793
Literally never heard of him, you need to link something
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I have never met a masculine white male Democrat voter in my entire life
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>>80366845
He inherited the money well after he'd built his empire
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I was excited to see this, now I'm wondering whether I should go or not. I'm not fragile, but knowing that the director is an obnoxious cunt, politics aside, will stick in my mind.
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>>80366845
>and hired other people to run his shit for him
Pretty smart desu
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>>80366829
They are mainly anarcho-syndicalists AKA anarcho-communists.

So yes they are authoritarian leftists. Which is ironic considering they call themselves anarchist, but I don't know what else you would call an ideology that demands complete and universal acceptance under penalty of death other than authoritarian.
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>>80366836
This is like, the answer of someone who is 13. It says nothing.
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>>80366860
Classical liberals are still liberals pal
I reject it all
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>>80366845
Dixit the fliping burger guy
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>>80366871
No, he inherited it on his father's deathbed. This is widely documented. None of you bothered to research the candidate you blindly follow like a cult.
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>>80364779
Give me 1 (one) good reason why I should financially support people I disagree with
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>>80366011
What's wrong with burning down a Mosque?
Serious question
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>>80366880
>genuine arguments
>haha I put them all in a bingo so that invalidates them looks like I win again
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>>80366904

what's your point, friend
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>>80364062
>This dude is basically Steve Bannondorf. This tweet won't make sense to a lot of people... But those who get it are my people
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>>80366884
Most if not all of the 1st world, including the US, is liberal.

So idk why the word gets your panties in a bunch. Freedom is liberal. You conservatives didn't invent freedom, your party only exists to appease traditionalists. And they are mostly cancer.
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>>80366790
You're paying for not only your own medical bills, but other peoples medical bills through taxes
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>>80366904
His dad died in 1999
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>>80366937
I consider myself a National Socialist
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>>80366884
so you reject the great enlightenment that brought us the supremacy of America, Capitalism, competitive advancement of ideas, and the basic concepts of human liberty?

Damn, dude. :/
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>>80366904
Take millions from father instead of hard working in mcdonalds? Lol, what a retard
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>>80366882
>Still not refuting anything I say, still not admitting you were dead wrong
This is too easy. If you want names, you can just open a history book that tells european history from the 18th to the 20th century. Plenty of smart people there will be nationalists, typically civic nationalists. People like Rousseau, Mill, Garibaldi, Bismarck, and so on.
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>>80366926
That he has never been as successful as he pretends to be.
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>>80366924
This what's wrong with burning down a church?
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>>80364321
>self hating

fucker what is wrong with your eyesight? how can you look at this man and see a white guy?!
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>>80366845
Okay, so he took his 100 million and turned it into, lets just ballpark it, 5 billion.

That means he successfully multiplied his initial investment by a factor of fifty. I suspect Trump is worth far more than 5 billion so it's probably more.

So since Trump is an idiot and still managed to get such massive returns, you as an intelligent person should go to the bank right now, take out a $100,000 loan, and you should have no problem turning it into $5,000,000.

What the fuck are you waiting for?
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>>80366952
The enlightenment was a mistake
And its led inevitably to where we are today
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>>80366958

ok, retard. thanks for playing.
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>>80366792
He's a smart business man for sure, but he was also born into a rich family and had his father's business connections and financial backing to help get him started.

Also both political parties were a sad joke last election, they wanted it to be Jeb v Hillary and all of America told them to fuck off. He would have gotten stomped going against Obama during Obama's first election.
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>>80366958
Thats because Trump is the Russ Hanneman of the real business world.
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>>80366953
So why don't you get your story straight, is he a billionaire corporate shill or a maverick who happened to get rich? I thought we hated the corporate shills? I can't keep track on the cognitive dissonance lately.
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>there are literally white dudes in this thread that openly support the Democratic Party

Have they been cryogenically frozen the last 2 years?

Dems hate your fucking guts just to rally up brown voters
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>>80365588

I have reason to believe it's a flat out lie.

That reason being that known liars on the left invented the term, invented the "problem" and invented a "solution" that conveniently restricts or limits speech that would not promote them or their causes.
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>>80366877
>anarcho-syndicalists AKA anarcho-communists
Alright. I see.
>they are authoritarian leftists
I don't think so. If they were trotskists or maoists, they would be. Kicking nazis is not authoritarian, even libertarian socialists (such as the aforementioned kind) don't roll with the liberal faggotry about "but EVERYONE can say whatever you want without anyone physically confronting them". And bashing private and state property is the most anarchist thing since horizontally sliced bread.
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>>80366937
>Freedom is liberal. You conservatives didn't invent freedom
>this level of historical revisionism
Every single classical liberal had ideas about society that are 90% the same as modern day conservatives, which sure as shit aren't there to "appease traditionialists", since traditionalists are barely a fraction of a point of the population.
Fucking hell, why are americans so ignorant about history.
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>>80366937
Most of what constitutes "liberalism" today is really just vented corporatism. The majority of first worlders aren't leftists.
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>>80366958
But he is a president of United states. That's pretty successful
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>>80366573
He said by today's standards they would be considered far-right.

Fucking moron.
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>>80366973
Forbes estimates that he lost more money than he's made and his total assets if sold are worth around 4 bil. He himself, is not.
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>>80366995

what did he mean by this
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>>80366976
To the advancement of medical care, prolonged life expectancy, scientific advancement, space exploration, and more wealth than has ever existed in civilized history?

you sound like you would be objectively happier if you killed yourself.
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>>80366546

>Hating Native Americans this much

Jesus, they already got trampled on enough already.

Anyway;

>High I.Q. nationalists

The nation of Japan averages a much higher I.Q. than the U.S.

And they're one of the most racist and nationalistic countries on earth.

Probably all the fish oil.
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>>80366973
No, the guy you're responding to is a moron. He didn't inherit 100M from his dad until 1999, well after he'd built his real estate empire.
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>>80366997
I want you to look up the words "conservative" and "liberal" for me, sweetie.
>it is historical revision if I don't know history
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>>80366992
When the only alternative option is to be a hateful, racist, anti-gay, anti-environment, anti-science, neo-Nazi piece of human trash, I think I'll take my chances.
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>>80366937

>Being against free speech is "liberal"

rly makes u think
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>>80364062
I don't understand why this guy didn't just upgrade his ticket, you'd figure that he would have some money after directing a hollywood flick...
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>>80366992
>Dems hate your fucking guts
Alex, don't you have a Sandy Hook conspiracy theory to develop?
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>>80366976
>he says on an on a basket weaving forum which exists as a node in a communication system, with the freedom (literally FREEdom non gratis) due to so as pleased which is only possible due to Enlightenment
KEK
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The moral of this guys story is to let others live their lives but this all started with him encroaching upon this guys personal messages.
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>>80367037
But that's wrong...

It was managed and owned by his father. Donald had little to do with it until his death.
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>>80367051
Honey, I want you to actually read the opinions of those classical liberals back in the day and see if anyone would classify them today as anything but evil bigot conservatives.
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>>80366421
Could this director be any more of a bull prepping cuck? He'd be more suited to direct BLACKED.com videos.....which now that I think of it, really makes sense he took to the idea of filming a Kong movie. A flick about a white guy literally getting cucked by a larger black beast
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>>80366573

Quoting Churchill in public now gets you arrested for Far Right Hate Speech.

Churchill was a fucking Right Winger even by the standards of his day, which is why he managed to lose an election after "saving" Britain and pissed off Commies no end.
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>>80367027
Technological advancement has nothing to do with the enlightenment.
This modern liberal age stands on the brink of destroying itself, average world IQ has declined by 5 points over the last 5-6 decades
White countries are on the brink of disappearing forever
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>>80366795
I wonder why this fuckwit isn't replying to this post.
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>>80367053
Thats the only alternative? I'd choose a suicide then
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>>80367061
>it's just a fringe group!
Top fucking jej
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>>80367077
What do you think the word conservative means?
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>>80367064
>my knowledge of the pre-englihtenment world is so shallow I literally spout dark ages meme without any hint of irony
wew lad
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>>80367066
This.

We live in interesting times to see supposed Nazis advocating free speech and supposed Liberals advocating the concept of thought crimes.
>>
He was in the right here. That guy sounds like a piece of shit. Politics are whatever, but breaking someone's stuff and refusing to pay for it or anything is an incredibly shitty thing to do. And plane rides already universally suck so making it worse for people is just inexcusable.
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>>80367066

>Implying anything he tweeted actually happened

It's embarrassingly fake.
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>>80367092
>DA WHITE COUNTRIES
and there it is...
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>>80366364
Your really not making any argument

Literally nothing someone can say which isnt an immediate call to violence justifies outright violence.

If a nazi gives an anti jewish speech at the university isnt the bigger issue that you do not have anyone who can defeat him in a debate, or the fact your university is so lenient to that idea that normal students will suddenly grab pistols and take to the streets. Pointing to crazies and claiming they are caused by speechs is ridiculous, someone that unhinged is a powder keg waiting to go off,and you can not excuse violence against a peaceful speaker for such flimsy reasons.
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>>80366971
vogt roberts sounds white
he looks white with a beard
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>>80367053

>anti-science

Isn't that the left?

The ones that think you can change gender based on your mood?
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>>80366962
Nothing.
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>>80367137
What's wrong?
We're on 4chan, we don't have to dance around the obvious here
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>>80367092
Yes it does. It's the cornerstone of modern economic liberalism and capitalism at its core.
A melding of ideas.
Im disregarding the second two sentences because they are your opinion and aren't based in fact or reality.
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>>80367075
No he took his fathers company and turned it into real estate development. Prior to that it was just apartment rentals. He took out tens of millions in bank loans but he was only given 1 million by his father.
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>>80366957
>just go back a few hundred or so years to find a good argument for nationalism
>I won't give you any modern examples
>GOTCHA PWNED XD
what's next? You going to make an argument for bloodletting?
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>>80367150
No, and you don't have a leg to stand on here with how many government science and environmental organizations are being defunded and dismantled by the Republicans right now. Inexcusable.
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>>80367137

There is what?

He's right. Most white countries are becoming increasingly multi-cultural and therefore increasingly dumber and more restrictive. It's not fun.

But hey, if you want to be a religious fanatic science denier, have at it.
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>>80367094
Because it completely refutes most of his worldview. Most people today unironically believe that people in the 40s hated nazis because they were racists and antisemites, even though if you take away racist and antisemite soldiers from the battlefield of WW2 they would have been empty.
Today's overton window is so shifted to the (liberal) left that their knowledge of right wing opinions is completely void.

>>80367102
Conservative means you want to preserve part or the entirety. Those people back in the day were not conservatives but given their opinion on pretty much anything, if I were to emulate them completely on an ideological level, I would today be classified as an evil bigoted conservative, that's what I mean.
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>>80364062
>reading a strangers phone
>getting so anally annihilated that you spend the whole flight passive aggressively tweeting about a random old man sitting next to you having opinions you don't like
>and then steal his charger cord
>and then fucking film him

What a fucking asshole, my God.
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>>80364062
And this is the dude who will be making the metal gear solid movie. Are we fucked
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>>80367123
>and refusing to pay for it or anything is an incredibly shitty thing to do.
Yeah, but lib guy just silently stole his charger instead of talking with him when he was sober. Thats a pussy behaviour and made right one defensive
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>>80367183

>No

Except objectively yes.

>Republicans

I don't live in America. But leftists the world over support Islam and Transgender Delusions and are therefore anti-science.

You can't argue against that with a straight face. Don't blame me you identify with low I.Q. trailer park Koran thumping mouth breathers.
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>>80367212
Why would we be? Kong: Skull Island is great.
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I totally forgot about this incident. Surprised the movie wasn't worse considering.
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>>80367150
>change gender based on your mood
First - nobody does this.
Second - you can't say the "queer theory" is anti-scientific.
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>>80366913
Every person in every nation already does this, if you want to live in a nation you have to.
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>>80366716
Again your wrong

first who decides who is actually authoritarian, speaking in hyperbole that "they want to use our rights to take our rights away" is not a legitimate call to arms.

Do you honestly think if someone told a founding father that he thought free speech should be banned , the founding father would arrest him for saying that?

You can oppose policies, and reasonably there is a point where you can open revolt against actions. Killing people whos only crime is speaking is not the same thing.
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>>80367177
0the s all loan meme
Kek, again. No. Fucking Christ. This is easy shit to debunk.
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>>80367143
he looks arab you dumb fuck.
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>>80367212

Probably. Less to do with his politics which will necessitate the raping of the material, than the fact that he's a really shitty filmmaker, so the movie will suck regardless.

Who cares. If you pay to watch a fucking video game movie you deserve to ripped off.
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>>80366804
I wonder why nationalism is on the rise

Almost like moving regressive societies in open civil war to western countries is a bad idea.
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>>80367113
>he thinks the Roman Catholic Church created the internet
>he thinks the Roman Catholic Church believed in interest and capitalism
>he thinks the Roman Catholic Church believed in agency
>he thinks the Roman Catholic Church believed in due process
>he thinks the Roman Catholic Church believed in Heliocentricism
Please respond and remember to thank the enlightment for the legal and ecoomic systems that have provided this basket weaving forum for you to shitpost on about how bad the Enlightenment is because you're allowed to shitpost about how bad the Enlightenment is thanks to the Enlightenment.
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>>80367229
>First - nobody does this.
I wish you were right, but you're very behind in the times friend.
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>>80367183
>defunding financial sinkhole organizations that exist to get government grant money is anti-science
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>>80367051
not that guy

liberal used to mean what we would now call libertarian. leftists started using the term for themselves, and the meaning changed.

in europe, where leftists parties either call themselves "labor" or "socialist", liberal still tends to mean what it did in the 1800s/early 1900s.

there was a humorous (to me) article I read a couple years ago where french socialist party politician Dominique Strauss Kahn was said to be "too liberal" for most french leftists. that is to say, he was too much of a free-market proponent and some within the party wanted a more anti-capitalist presidential candidate.
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>>80367233
>Do you honestly think if someone told a founding father that he thought free speech should be banned , the founding father would arrest him for saying that?

No, I think they would have shot him.
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>>80367231
Comparing not paying for an unecessary consumer good to having to pay taxes (which I personally have reduced to a minimum due to the same reason by the way) is pretty disingenuous, anon.
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>>80367229

>First - Nobody does this

No shit. But the left do BELIEVE people do this.

>Second - you can't say the "queer theory" is anti-scientific.

I can say claiming your gender changes depending on what side of the bed you woke up on is anti-scientific, and that I have no idea what homosexuality study has to do with gender.
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>>80367181
lol you're funny in your stupidity.
You're so entrenched in your "current year" view of history, aka whig history, that you can't even conceive that an argument formulated in the past might still be good today.
Also, "modern" doesn't mean contemporary, stop using it that way. Rousseau was a modern nationalist.
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>>80367160
The social changes in the west has nothing to do with IDEAS but with real meaningful changes in technologies, industries, and worker productivity
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>>80367252
>all guys with white surnames and beards are arabs

this is an 18+ board you spastic cunt

white people can grow beards too
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>>80367036
>Japan is inbred, isolated and full of genetic impurities
>best case for closed off homogenious societies
WEW, /pol/ is full of scientists.
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>>80367241
Again in English this time
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>>80367273

We just assume Americans are too stupid to understand the term Liberal, which is why they misapply it to Leftists and Marxists, who are anti-liberal.
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>>80367276

jesus that is some deluded revisionist thinking
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>>80367256
>the enlightenment created capitalism
please kill me now
>all those strawmen or outright lies
k
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>>80367143
indeed, all bearded men are white men right?
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>>80367256
fellow enlightenment bro

these kids just dont read anymore I swear
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Can we All agree both sides are equally retarded? Like every time one side tries to rationalize their hate for the opposite they come off as even more pathetic. All everyones arguements are these days are how evil and retarded people who dont agree with them are.
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>>80367303
>japan is full of genetic impurities
source. You haven't one of course.
Also, we should not do like those silly japanese, we should import hundreds of thousands of pakis, who are totally not inbred due to massive rates of cousin marriage.
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>>80367323
>Founding Fathers never resorted to violence to secure their rights
>The Revolutionary War never happened
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>>80367303

what kind of genetic impurities. i don't even know what that means.
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>>80367284
I thought you were talking about taxes, what is this thread about again?
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>>80367295
Then quote me his arguments...or quote me a contemporary argument that works.

You refuse to cite anything. Really makes my neurons fire.
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>>80367303
>Japan is inbred[citation needed]
Funny how inbreds manage to have higher average live expectancies and IQs.
Was Wrong Turn right? Does inbreeding create superhumans?
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I don't even know what any of this shit is about anymore
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>>80367268
I'm right in the middle of "the times", hanging out with trans/genderfluid/etc. folks on an almost daily basis. Noone "changes their gender based on their mood".
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>>80367299
>t. babyfaced autist
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>>80367337

Listen here you asian cunt if you're too stupid to understand that a man with 2 white names means his mum and dad are both white i cant have time for you
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>>80367294
This website doesn't understand that when people are talking about gender, they aren't talking about biological sex.
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>>80367378
>my friends don't do it so no one does it
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>>80367303

It's the second wealthiest nation on the planet with one of the highest standards of living on the planet.

>Genetic impurities

It has the longest average lifespan on the planet.

You Sharts meanwhile slide in at number 31.

Damn, all that multi-cultural mixed breeding seems to be doing you wonders.
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>>80364062
This shit is hilarious. I'm lmao at the white man behavior in his natural environment.
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>>80367359
>what is this thread about again?
Read the OP or the post I replied to, anon.
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>>80367378

so you're a deluded faggot, gotcha.
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>>80367367
Anon, you still haven't admitted you were wrong earlier about those people, their beliefs, and modern day characterization of their beliefs. Why keep arguing with you when you clearly are incapable of admitting you were wrong?

Not only that, I've already explained why you have to give arguments at to why nationalism is stupid. Despite that, I've already given you two arguments in favor of nationalism and ethnically homogeneous countries, just go back and read my earlier posts.
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I see the middle of the night is when all the unironic cucks come out.
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>>80367294
>claiming your gender changes depending on what side of the bed you woke up on is anti-scientific
It feels like you're mixing up "gender" and "sex". Isn't that anti-scientific?
>homosexuality study
It's not that. Feel free to google it.
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>>80367296
...real meaningful changes...which started... as ideas. <:O woah.

shocking, isn't it, simple deduction.
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>>80367348
No you are right, we should just autistically shut all the borders down and being a closed interbred society. Look at all the closed off homogenious societies that are successful and thriving now...
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>>80367303

>Japan
>Genetic impurities

I hope to god it's not an Amerilard saying this.
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>>80367391
kek why are you so fucking triggered you pathetic prick did i touch a nerve?

you sound like a pimple faced nerd who cant even grow a moustache i got it right didnt i kek
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>>80367398
It is scientificallyy without a doubt, better to have mixed and diverse genes in your population pool.
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>>80367465
Like Japan?
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>>80367469
my bro in law looks just like this but hes portugease and has autism
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>>80367398
>picture of only fat white anglo-saxon descendants

telling.
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>>80367395

This mouth breathing inbred hick doesn't understand that Gender IS Biological Sex.

Hence - Science Denier.

>>80367456

No, because Gender and Sex are exactly the same thing, the term "Gender" coming in to use to describe biological sex with the term "Sex" became widely associated with intercourse.

You'd know that if you weren't an obese product of the U.S. education system.

>Queer Theory

Oh...This is a different kind of novelty faggotry? Gotchya.
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>>80367431
You didn't give an argument at all, you just said you liked it. You haven't sourced shit. Kill yourself or actually back up your beliefs when challenged. I want a contemporary argument why nationalism is good.
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>>80367479
>Vogt Roberts
>German English surname(s)
>Guy must be arab

fuck tv is a garbage forum hahaha
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>>80367396
My friends don't do it, you friends don't do it, Chris-chan doen't do it, who does it?
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>>80367465
>gets asked for source with the remark that he won't have any, implying he's talking out of his ass
>doesn't provide source, proving he's talking out of his ass
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>>80367458
A person building a wind mill doesn't need an idea of "capitalism" to accumulate capital
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>>80367488
Gonna need a source
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>>80367501
>Gender IS Biological Sex.
No, it isn't. You don't know what words mean.
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>>80367488

>It is scientificallyy without a doubt, better to have mixed and diverse genes in your population pool.

Then explain why the extremely diverse united states has such a wretched gene pool, while the inbred Japanese produce the highest average I.Q.'s and life expectancy?

Or this more of your "Gender Mood Ring" """"""science""""""" again?
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>>80367465
And what would be wrong with that? Yes all western countries would be better off if we did such a thing.
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>>80367296
Freedom of choice 100% has something to do with innovation

The cucked cultures of the world produce fuckall because they're told to not question the status quo

Liberty is a host for growth
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>>80367465
>No you are right, we should just autistically shut all the borders down and being a closed interbred society
Anon, that's not how genetics work, you don't get an inbred society by closing off a country unless you practice sibling/cousing marriage or your population is already inbred to begin with. Every single european country aside from the smallest ones has enough genetic diversity within the native population to last so many years you can't even count them.

>Look at all the closed off homogenious societies that are successful and thriving now...
You mean like scandinavian countries up to like 10-15 years ago? Or every other european country up to a few years ago, maybe aside from france?
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>>80367488
>It is scientificallyy without a doubt, better to have mixed and diverse genes in your population pool.
You still haven't explained why Japan's healthier and smarter, anon. Reality doesn't seem to reflect your "scientificallyy" fantasies.
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>>80367489
>japan
>Successful and thriving standard of living due to American economic support
>economy collapsing from inability to compete with globalism due to isolationist cultural traditions.

pick both
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>>80367465
>Populations of hundreds of millions from all races of the world in western society
>at risk of Interbreeding

choose one ya retarded fuck
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>>80367501
>Gender and Sex are exactly the same thing
Now that's anti-science.
>novelty faggotry
I think it's been around for a longer time than you have.
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>>80367526
You need a source on why genetics clearly states this? Are some of you really this fucking science illiterate? Of course a larger gene pool is better than a closed off one. Homogenious societies are notoriously fucked up or more susceptible to disease. All throughout human history this has been true, and genetics finally backed it up.
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>>80367488

diverse genes from the right set of people, not from low iq backwaters
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>>80366602
One is a religion, the other is a doctrine.
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>>80367586
So... why is Japan really fine while Brazil has shit tier living
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>>80367538

Yes, it is. You don't LIKE what words mean so you invent some sweet Alternative Facts to bend them to your fantastical anti-science agenda's.

It's hilarious.

>The word gender has been used since the 14th century as a grammatical term, referring to classes of noun designated as masculine, feminine, or neuter in some languages. The sense denoting biological sex has also been used since the 14th century, but this did not become common until the mid 20th century.

Anyway, you probably grew up spotting Angels and UFO's from your the window of your double wide trailer and watching your uncle get bitten by snakes to cure his cancer, so I can't judge you too harshly.
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>>80367580
Are you implying that there's a real scientific case for "genders" in the first place?
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>>80367543
I am literally talking about genetics. Is that magic to you? The US does not really have a bad gene pool. We have some of the best medical science in the world, our children survive through diseases that wipe out entire third world countries.
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>>80367501
>Gender IS Biological Sex.
>calls someone a science denier
What "Science" does the idea of gender actually deny?
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>>80367556

>you don't get an inbred society by closing off a country unless you practice sibling/cousing marriage

Well the Left ARE big fans of Islam....
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>>80367586

don't pretend to be a geneticist, you're gonna embarrass yourself
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All these questions have already been answered in history
The spaniards race mixed in South America, its a shithole
The brits allowed negros into white South Africa/Rhodesia, they took over & are in the process of killing off the whites

Lets not repeat the same mistakes over & over again huh?
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>>80366761
He ran out of the requisite allocated characters before he could write "Vey"
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>responding to this troll
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>>80364779
>someone doesn't buy my product
>Ye u guys r sjws lol
>lefty memes
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>>80367557
So your argument is literally with genetics then? Are you really gonna sit there and shit on genetics?
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>>80367525
son you need to get off this cambodian carpet-bagging forum and pick up a history book. Particularly anglo-european history circa 1600-1899.
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>>80367609
It's really funny watching you dodge the question, anon.
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>>80367580

>Facts are anti-science

>My feelings overrule objective truth

Oh boy, that sure is scientific.

>Different strains of sexual deviancy have been around longer than I have

You don't say.
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>>80367559
Their GDP per employment is better than the US, they're just a tiny country.
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>>80367488
Anon, your knowledge of the subject is at a grade school level.
Heterosis happens only if your population is inbred. If it's not inbred to any significant degree, there's basically no heterozygote advantage to be found.
And as I've already said here,>>80367556 there's plenty of genetic diversity among the native population of european countries.
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>>80367598
Because it is a meme that Japan is "fine"
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>>80367644
Stop dodging the question. It's embarrassing.
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>>80367586
We're not living in medieval times anymore
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>>80367663
I've heard that for 15 years.
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>>80367607
Yes?
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>>80367586

>This is true

>I have no source for this

>I can't refute actual examples that state otherwise

Again - Why are the Japanese more intelligent and healthier if interbreeding among a limited ethnic group is a death knell, while the highly diverse and genetically dispersed U.S. contains a whole lot of sub-normal, early dying freaks?
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>>80365965
>how fucking batshit the right
>neocons
>this is like equating westboro baptists church and Isis
Ignore this whiner
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>>80367600
Kiddo, just use a dictionary to understand what differentiates the word gender from biological sex. Why is this hard for your peabrain? This isn't even remotely SJW-tier shit, it's just understanding definitions.
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>>80367680
Prove it.
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>>80367519
>people never change their names to get into the country

yeah thats why you're here, you're as thick as shit too.
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>>80367663

>Being consistently among the top 3 wealthiest countries on the planet with the highest life expectancy, I.Q. and one of the highest standards of living is a meme

>Squalor, poverty and violence are awesome

Seems like you got hit with the low end of the gene pool stick yourself anon.
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>>80367649
Except I didn't.
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>>80367654
>sexual deviancy
We're not talking about queerness or LGBT, we're talking about queer theory. The point is - it's not a novelty.
>Facts
Because you said so?
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>>80367598
because genetics doesn't determine all economic standards you incomparable retard.
Japan had American economic support and guidance to pursue technological maxims, Brazil did not.
Genetics is not the only determinant of national success potential.
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>>80367719
Link to the post where you answered why Japan's so much healthier and smarter than heterogeneous Brazil, anon
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>>80367692

>Just use a dictionary

I just did.

You just denied the dictionary entry. Want me to repeat it?

>The word gender has been used since the 14th century as a grammatical term, referring to classes of noun designated as masculine, feminine, or neuter in some languages. The sense denoting biological sex has also been used since the 14th century, but this did not become common until the mid 20th century.
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>>80367656
>there's plenty of genetic diversity among the native population of european countries.
But this is false and you are just repeating surface level /pol/ memes and not showing a real understanding of genetic science. No geneticist is pro-homogenious. Not a single one will tell you that isolating populations is a good thing that helps with variance. Stop pretending you know what you are talking about.
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>>80367727

>Queer Theory

>Not a novelty

Sure. It's a corner stone of Western intellectual thought, right?

>Facts

>Because you said so?

No. Because they are empirical. As opposed to based on my mood (you know, the opposite of the way you think sexual assignment works...)
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>>80367779
>But this is false
[citation needed]
>No geneticist is pro-homogenious. Not a single one will tell you that isolating populations is a good thing that helps with variance.
Why does it always boil down to arguments from authority with your type when you can't argue properly, anon? It's shameful
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>>80367779

>Lack of diversity leads to a lack of variance

Damn.

I mean...DAMN.

Really made me think anon.
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>>80367655
most tiny 1st world countries have better social safety nets and employment options, this is standard across the world. Larger populations are far harder to ensure quality of life for every citizen.
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>>80367758
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gender
Takes three seconds.
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>>80367684
genetics isnt the only factor, why do you keep pushing this logic-devoid meme?
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>>80367701
Can't you just google "sociology of gender", for example?
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>>80367779

geneticists aren't pro-anything except pro-give me money
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>>80367832
Oh, so when you said that he should look up the dictionary definition you meant specifically a dictionary that conveniently supports your position, right? Maybe add that next time
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>>80367806
>argument based on observable and testable facts on hoe genetics works
>is an appeal to authority
Go to a factless hugbox then you regressive faglord. I'm sorry hard genetic science triggers you.
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>>80367837
I could but all I'm finding is that one guy that mutilated some poor boy that had his circumcision botched and then drove him and his brother into suicide, so I'd rather stick with the real sciences
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>>80367779
>But this is false
No, anon, this is not false, it's quite true.not >showing a real understanding of genetic science
Thank god you're helping me, I'm starting a residency in clinical genetics in a few months but apparently random anon on the internet knows a lot more than me.
>No geneticist is pro-homogenious
That's not what I said, you can barely read and comprehend a text but you want to lecture people on genetics? I said that if your country isn't inbred, that is the expected and the actual rate of heterozigosity are the same or the latter is greater than the former, there is no point in looking for heterosis as it's not going to do any measurable good. In fact, if it's greater than the former, you're going to have what is called outbreeding depression.
Since western countries have plenty of genetic diversity within them due to a) ancestral admixture b) various population that migrated in neolithic and late metal-ages and c) some fucking around between borders, there's not point in open borders from a genetic perspective.
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>>80367854
So you have a problem with Merriam-Webster now? Fuck off. You don't understand what words mean.
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>>80367859

looks like you forfeited
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>>80367884
I'm not rejecting facts on the basis that I don't like them.
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>>80367859
>>argument based on observable and testable facts on hoe genetics works
Already adressed in this post >>80367656
You just said "this is false", source lacking, and referred to a supposed authority. So yes.
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>>80367788
>It's a corner stone of Western intellectual thought, right?
I don't get what you're implying.
>Because they are empirical
What empirical facts show that gender is the same thing as sex?
>sexual assignment
Sexual assignment at birth, you mean? It's not even that much scientific itself. The only thing it takes into account is genitalia.
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>>80367832

Took 1 second

>noun
>1.
>either the male or female division of a species

What is Male?

>noun
>1.
>a person bearing an X and Y chromosome pair in the cell nuclei and normally having a penis, scrotum, and testicles, and developing hair on the face at adolescence; a boy or man.

What is a female?

>noun
>1.
>a person bearing two X chromosomes in the cell nuclei and normally having a vagina, a uterus and ovaries, and developing at puberty a relatively rounded body and enlarged breasts, and retaining a beardless face; a girl or woman.

But hey, if we petition every dictionary in the world to make arbitrary politically motivated changes to words, maybe women can grow dicks, right?

Maybe if the Republicans do the same we can reclassify Global Warming as "a couple of slightly hotter than average days in the middle of Summer"?

You science deniers are hilarious.
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>>80366465
>can't use Jew guilt trip
>uses smug leftist
Kys
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>>80367900
kek bro, trannies are so fucked up.
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>>80367882
No, I have a problem with "look at the definition" when you actually mean "look at this definition that's convenient for me", anon.

At least be honest.
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>>80364129
heh
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>>80367833

I don't know anon - You're the one claiming that a population of one hundred million plus is too small a population to interbreed with and will inevitably lead to genetic degeneration and deformity and retardation. Despite having no proof for your claims.

So you tell me.
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>>80367874
>real sciences
Ohhhh...
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>>80367779
Continuing from here >>80367880 the "diversity is always good" genetically is a grade school tier meme which is used because a) it's easier to understand for children b) it's usually mentioned when talking about breeds of dogs c) it's also a sociopolitical meme and d) most teacher don't understand genetics at a sufficient level to talk about it.
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>>80367902
Facts you should be acquainted with in some intelligent capacity already, like most fucking children are now, is not an appeal to authority. I'm not gonna sit here and give you an 8th grade lesson on genetics when your entire MO is just to justify your dumb ethno-nationalism meme. That's all this song and dance is, effort justification. Go to your hugbox to wronly discuss science:

>>>/pol/
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>>80366573
Churchill had two Jewish handlers
The Jews declared war on Germany; and had led an all Jewish revolt 20 years earlier
>the more u know
Also holocaust never happened and Jewish population grew during WW2 while they weren't fighting
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>>80367918
There is only one contemporary definition, kid.
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>>80367948
>still no source for his claim
>still not willing to adress the arguments in the previous post or the one here >>80367931
Come on, anon. I know this thread's about to be archived but that's no reason to debase yourself
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>>80367948
You're not refuting anything there, you're just spouting 8th grade stuff as you've said yourself,
Nothing here >>80367656 or here >>80367880 is wrong, that's why you can't give arguments or evidence against it.
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>>80367963
You mean the one here >>80367907 ?
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>>80367933
>genetic diversity
>is a sociopolitical meme
This is the level of intelligence I waste my time with. What happened to my life?
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>>80366703
>the nazi hated people with different skin colour meme
You're retarded
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>>80367905

>I don't get what you're implying

I'm implying it's a novelty subject for low I.Q. mouth breathers.

>What empirical facts show that gender is the same thing as sex?

Dictionaries that demonstrate the etymology of the word, you low I.Q. halfwit.

>Sexual assignment at birth, you mean?
>The only thing it takes into account is genitalia.

Your sexual assignment occurs within the first trimester, you goddamn pinheaded buck toothed cousin fucking hick.
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>>80366714
Adolf Hitler
Everything he said is as obvious today as it was then
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>>80367963

>There is only one contemporary definition

There are only two genders. But that doesn't stop you from trying.

Either way;

>One definition

There are multiple, even by contemporary definitions.

You'd know that if you could read and hadn't been educated in a system that regards AAVE as a real thing.
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>>80367994
I feel like we are in different universes here, what exactly has you so triggered buckaroonie? Gender is a societal construct informed by both gender roles and traits of biological sexes. Sex is your assigned biological...sex, at birth. What do you struggle with here? Humans have been devising different genders for themselves for hundreds of thousands of years. Fucking Christ, most mammals do it too. Most biological life assigns some cross-gendered role at some point. Penguins, Giraffes, most sapiens...
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>>80367997
Anon, as I've already pointed out here >>80367880
you seem unable to read a text and understanding it, yet you try to lecture people about stuff you've clearly only a cursory knowledge of. And you're still not refuting anything. I'm starting to think you didn't even know what heterosis is before I mentioned it.

Yes, "diversity is good" is a sociopolitical meme, which is why people try to use genetics in support of it, even though I've already explained twice why this does not apply at all, and all you've been able to do is tip-toe around the subject.

Please explain why a country like germany doesn't have enough genetic diversity within it that would last thousands and thousands of years if the closed their borders off and didn't pratice inbreeding. Go ahead, please.
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>>80368009
the whole "assigned male/female at birth" was hijacked by trannies. it originally referred to intersex people where docs couldnt tell if they were male or female so assigned them a sex. if you got a willy you a boy, thats it. no assigning nothing.
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>>80368041
>There are only two genders
You mean sexes? Yeah. There is only two biological sexes. I agree.
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>>80366757
(((Educated world))) cover up a lot of things anon
Just like ow niggers treat white people worse now, than whites ever treat them in history
South afric..... I mean Rhodesia2.0 is showing us this yet again while they scream victimhood
The Jews that helped the terrorist Mandela have taught them well
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>>80368009
>a novelty subject
So? Cognitive linguistics is also a novelty subject then.
>I.Q.
Now that's weak bait, but you kept me responding for while, nice job.
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>>80368050
>Gender is a societal construct
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>>80368103
Gender is a social construct though. I will never understand why this causes so much sprerg.
>>
Why do leftists and liberals always try to justify their ideological love for open borders with genetics and when confronted with actual reasons why there's no genetic need for that they just run away or show their ignorance of the subject?
It's almost like they base their science on ideology and not the opposite.
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>>80366937
lol liberals are a parasite that bring countries down from the inside
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>>80368125
because it freaks neckbeards out.
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>>80368050

>Humans have been devising different genders for themselves for hundreds of thousands of years.

The word itself is only 700 years old. The concept of it's application to biological sex is younger than that and has only been commonly used for around 100 years, and the concept that it applies to a social/cultural definition of sex rather than a biological definition is only decades old (perhaps less).

You are doing what us normies call "Lying".

>Fucking Christ, most mammals do it too. Most biological life assigns some cross-gendered role at some point. Penguins, Giraffes, most sapiens...

No. They don't. Anthropomorphisizing animal behavior is literally the realm of small children, you fucking dolt.

A male penguin sitting on an egg is not the same as your dad wearing an apron and cooking dinner anon. Jesus fuck, America can't collapse soon enough and let the Chinese run the show. I can't believe we have to live in fear of you head scratching buffoons owning nukes.
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>>80368077

Right. And Gender is the classification of the two biological sexes.

Hence two genders.

Are these words too long for you, or...?
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>>80368050
>Gender is a societal construct
Doesn't it have any kind of, say, psychological basis?
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>>80368140
>The word itself is only 700 years old
Sure...that doesn't mean other humans and cultures didn't call it something else.
>what is being a two-spirit?
>literally a thousandish year old term

That isn't an argument. Stop posting.
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>>80368140
are you saying theres something wrong with dad wearing an apron and cooking dinner? because that sounds pretty hot.
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>>80367053
>Being a cuckhold is better than finding other options
Can't congrats on welfare and being 50kgs
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>>80368167
Sure, to some degree as it is informed PARTLY by a biological sex but the prominent functions in gender sre constructed.
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>>80368160
BIG GUY
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>>80368097

Let me guess - I.Q. is subjective.

You're as intelligent as you feel anon!

Everyone's a winner!

>>80368125

Because it's changing an established definition of a word to suit the mentally ill delusions of a minute minority of people.
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>>80368172
Why are there so many faggots on this sity ffs, don't you have a standard fuckparty to go to?
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>>80368160
>And Gender is the classification of the two biological sexes.
I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding on what these words mean. Or how they are applied.
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>>80366944
>boo hoo, I have to contribute to society and help those less fortunate!!! All I got was an education, and infrastructure and the same help when I need it, no questions asked. Muh money!! I want to keep all of it!! Stop taxing me, I swear I'll spontaneously give to charity all the time if you just stop taxing me!!!

Ps with single-payer, healthcare costs less for everyone
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>>80368160
If "gender" is the classification of the two biological sexes, then how do you call the set of sociological, behavioural and cultural characteristics associated with each biological sex?
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>>80368188
>but the prominent functions in gender sre constructed.
That's not exactly scientific then, is it?

I can make up shit too and just because I get enough people to believe in it doesn't mean it becomes real
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>>80368199
Dude you're here and you a bigger faggot than the rest of us.

i bet you could identify 900 dicks by smell alone you cheeky mexican whore.
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>>80368170

Yes. They called it "Being A Faggot" and "Gracus Is Wearing A Dress Again Because He's Been Drinking Too Much".

>what is being a two-spirit?

Literally nothing that has to do with whether you have a dick or not and nothing to do with fucking "gender", dipshit.

>This isn't an argument

Precisely. No matter how much you cry, you can't change your chromosomes with a wish and a dream.
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>>80367091
Churchill did what he was told spastic
1/100th of the man his predecessor was
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>>80368140
>humans are animals
>OMFG DONT COMPARE HUMAN BEHAVIOR WITH ANIMAL BEHAVIOR REEEE
Oh, I see where you are from now.
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>>80368210

Do I?

Because that's what the word has meant and how it has been applied since the 14th century?

Goddamn, reality sure is inconvenient.

I wish I could wish them away, like you apparently think a man can do with his dick.
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>>80368224
What do you think the nature of a "social construct" is?
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>>80368229
I'm pretty sure I can only identify my own dick and I'm neither a mexican nor a whore. Is AIDS already affecting your brain?
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>>80368214

I call them the sociological, behavioural and cultural charactersistics associated with each biological sex.

I'm curious why you think putting on lipstick and wearing a dress makes you a woman and not just a dude in lipstick and a dress.
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>>80368238
>GRRRRRRR FAGGOTS GGGRRRR
right. Thanks for sharing.
>two-spirits has nothing to do with gender
TOP KEK mate, it literally is a form of gender identity.
>you can't change your chromosomes
Not a single person has said this.

You fundamentally don't understand what a biological sex is. Do you think women come out of the womb wanting to wear dresses and cook?
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>>80368267
>I'm pretty sure I can only identify my own dick and I'm neither a mexican nor a whore

cool story bro
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>>80368262
>that's what the word has meant and how it has been applied since the 14th century?
The language isn't static, you know.
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>>80368262
I don't think you get what this discussion is about.
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>>80367150
"Biology has not place in defining gender"
>guy who created concept of gender and transitioning, was a pedo who forced two young brothers to switch to girls which resulted in them hating themselves and commiting suicide
>climate change lol
>evolution LOOOOOOOOOOOL has never and will never pass the scientific process, evolution is as far fetched as they make religions out to be
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>>80368247

Do you realize how stupid you are?

You're literally operating at the same level of mental capacity as an elderly cat lady or a pre-pubescent child.

It's stunning.

Just because your cat is staring at the TV doesn't mean he enjoys Seinfeld anon.

Fuck me.
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>>80368299
>I'm curious why you think putting on lipstick and wearing a dress makes you a woman and not just a dude in lipstick and a dress.
Those things don't make you biologically anything. They are gendered activities, whether you have a dick or not doesn't determine what you wear.
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>>80368313

Sure.

Which is a good thing for science deniers.

No one wants their kid learning Creationism. Luckily American schools teach scientific classes like Intelligent Design instead.
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>>80368332
Anon, there are vastly intelligent mammals that exist. Evolution is a thing that occurs (unless you think that is a lie devised by Satan in whatever Chick Track you read about fags ruining society and the Devil's lies), and we use common behaviors in mammals to look at our own species.

Gee, turns out most life is pretty similar to each other...and to us.
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>>80368351

>These things don't make you biologically anything

Well, Male and Female, Man and Woman are biologically derived. So putting on a dress and lipstick doesn't make you a woman if you're a man. It just makes you a man in a dress and lipstick.

>Gendered activities

Are they? If a boy plays with a barbie does he turn into a girl?

Or are you just a moron?
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>>80368386
>If a boy plays with a barbie does he turn into a girl?
No, it does not make him biologically a male. Nobody has ever said this. You are having an argument with a boogeyman. Idk what his gender is though. You can be gendered male and play with dolls. You sound like a hypermasculine emotional rollercoaster that is extremely threatened by feminine things.

Nobody gives a shit. Just use the English language correctly.
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>>80368378

>Vasltly intelligent mammals

No there aren't.

>and we use common behaviors in mammals to look at our own species.

No. We don't. Not scientists at any rate. Small children and the simple minded? Yes.

>Gee, turns out most life is pretty similar to each other...and to us.

Psychologically and socially? No. Not at all.

Like I said - you're literally dumber than most high school kids. Your views are embarrassing.
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>>80368420
*it does not make him biologically a female

I meant. Just so you aren't confused
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>>80368420

>Nobody has ever said this

...

...

0/10 b8.

>You sound like a hypermasculine emotional rollercoaster that is extremely threatened by feminine things.

You sound deeply confused and contradictory and threatened by science.

>Nobody gives a shit. Just use the English language correctly.

Why? You don't, and you admit that you freely change definitions to suit your feelings on a subject.
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>>80368299
>why you think putting on lipstick and wearing a dress makes you a woman
Because in social interactions and other stuff related to existing and functioning in a society it is *this* (and also behavior) what makes a person a woman, and not what's in between her legs or whatever the deal is with their chromosomes.
If we take an intersex person and bring him/her up in a gender-binary society, he/she will end up being and acting in this society as a man or a woman, biologically being neither.
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>>80368437

That statement makes you transphobic.
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>>80368452
>their legs
Fixed.
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>>80368452
>its a tranny drags intersex people into the discussion to prove their point episode
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>>80368430
>No there aren't.
So are we playing pretend then? That Dolphins and Apes don't exist? I'm curious to understand why you believe there are no intelligent mammals on earth. This is objectively false
>No. We don't. Not scientists at any rate
I think you live on a different planet from me...how do you think we study human evolution? Who do you think we look at?
>Psychologically and socially? No. Not at all.
You think we share no neurological, social or biological similarities to our cousins the Bonobos or Chimps?

WEWWWW
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>>80368452

>Because in social interactions and other stuff related to existing and functioning in a society it is *this* (and also behavior) what makes a person a woman

So, according to you, if my wife is wearing trousers and not wearing lipstick, she is no longer a woman?

Her vagina closes up? A dick sprouts?

>and not what's in between her legs or whatever the deal is with their chromosomes.

That's literally the ONLY thing that makes you a a woman.

Not wearing a dress or make up does not change a woman into a man anon.

Did women simply not exist prior to to the invention of lipstick and dresses?
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>>80368449
>you are threatened by science
>proceeds to not understand science
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>>80368494
Anon, nobody here is saying that a woman magically becomes a biological man or vice versa...
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>>80368463
oh fuck off you triggered cunt.
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>>80368125
It is not. It is something biological. Set in stone. A product of billions of years of evolution. And just because a bunch of blue hairs want to claim it's a construct and subject to interpretation and debate does not mean shit to me or anyone else worth their salt
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>>80368326
>climate change lol
>evolution LOOOOOOOOOOOL has never and will never pass the scientific process, evolution is as far fetched as they make religions out to be
What are you trying to say with this greentext? That climate change and Evolution are not real sciences? Are you that retarded?
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>>80364062
cuck
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>>80368486

No. We're not playing pretend.

The world's smartest mammals have the intelligence level of a particularly dumb pre-pubescent child.

>Dolphins and Apes

Aren't vastly intelligent. They're a little smarter than dogs, and most dogs can be outwitted by an 8 year old with ADHD.

>This is objectively false

Find me an animal that can read at a high school level. Just one.

>I think you live on a different planet from me...how do you think we study human evolution? Who do you think we look at?

Humans.

Scientists that study different animals continually warn layman about not applying human behavior and psychology to animals. You live on a planet where you are completely ignorant of science.

>Evolutionary Psychology

Hello PUA.

>You think we share no neurological, social or biological similarities to our cousins the Bonobos or Chimps?

I think we share very little social attributes with apes beyond the most base similarities (we form groups) which is why no one but much mocked pseudo-scientists use them as a basis for a study of human behavior.

You're literally operating at a Joe Rogan level of stupidity.
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>>80368531
You are talking about biological sex...
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>>80368514

>Anon, nobody here is saying that a woman magically becomes a biological man or vice versa...

Yes they are. Literally in the post I responded to.

>Biologically

There is no other way to be a woman or a man, you moron.
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>>80368544

Yes. He's saying those statements are retarded and unscientific. Just like;

>Biology does not determine gender
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>>80368366
Words obtaining new meanings is not the same thing as substitution of concepts.
What we call "gender" in this discussion could be otherwise called whatever, "kuzdra", for example. It doesn't matter, words are labels, sometimes we put identically looking or sounding labels on different things.
There is no point in getting mad over the fact that "gender" can mean something else and used to not mean this thing, this "kuzdra" we're discussing.
The point is - "kuzdra" is not the same thing as "sex". And what it *is*, is not called "kuzdra", but just happens to be called "gender".
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>>80368566

Which is how you determine who is a woman or a man.

You can't change into a woman or a man by changing clothes anon. That's determined by chromosomes.
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>alt-right
>someone that old
yep
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>>80368610

>Words obtaining new meanings is not the same thing as substitution of concepts.

Yet you keep trying to substitute the concept.

>What we call "gender" in this discussion could be otherwise called whatever, "kuzdra", for example. It doesn't matter, words are labels, sometimes we put identically looking or sounding labels on different things.

Labels do matter. It's how you identify things. Gender is used to identify the biological sex of an individual. Reassigning it to mean something completely different, ESPECIALLY something contradictory is either the result of stupidity or deliberate attempts to mislead.

>The point is - "kuzdra" is not the same thing as "sex".

But the point is that gender IS the same thing as "sex". The point is that even if you DO make them distinct things, a man is a man, a woman is a woman, and cross dressing won't change that.
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>>80368566
Which is synonymous with gender
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>>80368559
>all this flamboyant ignorance
It has to be bait but you have dedicated so much energy to this bait that I worry you are serious,
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>>80368685
No, it isn't. This really isn't hard to understand.
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>>80368583
>There is no other way to be a woman or a man, you moron.
>mom what is sociology
>mom what is society
There WOULD be no other way to be a woman or a man, IF we lived in a world where being a man or a woman biologically were like, say, being ginger or blonde, and didn't define the way people are brought up and are supposed function socially, thus not begetting the almost separate social, behavioral and cultural notion of being a man or a woman (what we're dealing with now).
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>>80368615
>You can't change into a woman or a man by changing clothes anon. That's determined by chromosomes.
And again, nobody has said this. You still fail to grasp what makes the word "gender" different from "sex", and I have no clue why you are this autistic about it. You even saw definitions for both words and for some reason you are still on this triggered circus ride of an argument.
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>>80368711
You are either a boy or a girl.
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>>80368661
>Gender is used to identify the biological sex of an individual
No. Again. I'll repeat for you: this is fundamentally wrong.
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>>80368739
Yes, you are either biologically a male or a female. Right.
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>>80368762
If your gender is male, your biological sex is male. If your gender is female, your biological sex is female. You don't get to decide, there is no "indentifying"
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>>80368803
We are in a loop here, I keep trying to explain to you that you don't know what a gender is.
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>>80368070
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1427743
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>>80368847
You don't know what it is
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>>80368890
>coming from the dumb faggot constantly misusing the word despite the dictionary definition being given to him
Right, it's me.
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All I'm gonna say before leaving this discussion ON A TV BOARD FOR FUCK'S SAKE, the point is, the idea of gender is not biology-denial. Nobody - except for a couple of nutcase post-structuralists who think that EVERYTHING is a social construct, even sexual dichotomy and biological sex itself (and who are not present here) - nobody will deny, for instance, the fact that a pre-op tranny-girl is biologically male.
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