/who/ Hydrofarts Edition

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>>80352541
sounds plausible
doesn't make it sound anything less than fucking terrible shite. what the fuck happened to based empty child Moffat

why would he keep the first doctor down there? its bullshit made up by idiots on gallifrey base

he's keeping and repairing the hydroflax body in the basement, hence the banging on the door. only something of considerable strength could do that -- this also explains how nardole has his body back

nardole is the arc of the series. he's the reason the tardis can work whilst hydroflax is in the cellar, the reason river song gets saved, and the reason 12 regenerates

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Hyped for Series 10. Steven Moffat has really pulled it out of the bag*

*his arse.

>>80352589
>he's the reason the tardis can work whilst hydroflax is in the cellar
what does this even fucking mean

>>80352588
He's still here. He made Series 9, Series 8 and Series 5. Remember that this is the majority opinion on /who/ and you are a minority so sit down and shut up.

>>80352671
Apparently in Husbands the TARDIS couldnt take off with Hydroflax's head because the body was outside. So this dude's saying 12 has the robot suit locked in the TARDIS (for reasons????) and in order to get the TARDIS to take off, it needs the 'head' inside too (which is Nardole now because reasons???)

I am a proud member of the Moffat Defense Force

>>80352704
Oh yes sorry, i forgot that having the 'wrong' opinion meant i couldnt visit a forum, sorry m8 i'll be offerino

>>80352671
nardole became part of hydroflax

they became one being

the tardis can't take off whilst one part of an entity is outside of the tardis (established in river song)

nardole is left in the tardis throughout most of s10. if nardole isn't in the tardis, it can't take off, because the hydroflax body is also in the tardis at the same time, hidden away - they register as one person, despite being separate.

nardole is literally the tardis key

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>>80352666
>No, it's true: even his backside is capable of sneering.

>>80352787
Good. The MDF claims another victim.

>>80352704
nah, moffat's been out of steam since about 2011, but definitely since the 50th

>>80352799
>tfw this actually makes sense

>>80352589
>its bullshit made up by idiots on gallifrey base
>implying your post isnt made up bullshit to bait gallifrey base

>>80352893
there's one in the basement, probably.

Some fans really reaching for hilarious theories. There's a Mondas Cyberman locked in the basement.

>>80352882
this is what happens, but believe the first doctor stuff if you want

>>80352948
i don't believe either of those mental theories, m8

>>80352933
this sounds the most sensible

What if 12 has locked a partially converted future Cyber12 up, in a bid to change the future ... and that ties into the finale. Nardole's "job" is to keep an eye on it.

Cyber Danny Pink is locked in the basement with CyberBrig. Screenshot this.

>>80352704
>>80352816
dude. fucking stop.
i liked series 9 but your being embarrassing now.
people are allowed to shit on moffat. christ.

>>80352589
This is the only one i've heard that I can see happening. The first doctor one is absurd to say the least.

>>80353172
I don't know where the "12 keeps X locked up" originates.

I mean, for all we know, it's Missy who's got something locked up - which 12, Bill and Nardole discover in the series.

>>80352589
sorry m8 your wrong
bradley was on set
its happening

why would he put a hydroflax in a basement? why wouldn't he just dismantle it? that doesn't make any sense either.

>>80353301
no he wasn't. you're just setting other fans up for disappointment. if you want to know what it is, its the hydroflax body with a cyberman's head. nardole becomes a living tardis key

The thing in the basement is one of the Hunters from Human Nature

>>80353357
Exactly. And since the whole "TARDIS can't take off if X and Y" shit, I'm sure the Doctor's since found a workaround. He always does. I doubt Moffat even remembers he wrote that plot contrivance for that episode.

>>80352589
>river song gets saved
That's it, I'm screencapping all these posts. There's no way in hell this is happening and the speculation is based on absolutely nothing.

>>80353357
because in the 24 years he spent with river song, he came up with a plan to get her out of the library and stop her dying by using the technology in the hydroflax body. his task is to keep nardole alive

>>80353373
no.

moffat already gave river to big finish
if he was going to use her he wouldn't have

>>80353448
the whole reason Moff did the 24 years thing was to have the cake and eat it (the last night... just happened to span 24 years) so he and fans got a 2-for-1 ending. Plus, he did it so the Doctor and River got closure to their story. She isn't gunna be saved after all that.

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>>80353092
Could it be?!?

>>80352704
Why did you mention Series 8?

>>80353596
holy shit

>>80353596
kek

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>>80353577
who's to say nardole doesn't die and the plan fails, resulting in cyberflax escaping and setting up a mondasian cyber factory?

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>>80353596
like a hybrid

>>80353697
13's companion will be baby Danny Pink-Potts Jr

>>80347190
Because it was fun.

and it didn't have pointless drama, it was just the Doctor being the mysterious enigmatic "out figure he's good at being.

It was basically just a good Doctor episode, and the superhero plot stuff was fun and simple.

Capaldi is a great Doctor when they let him just be the fun.

>>80354029
this. there was no bullshit. it was just simple doctor who.

>>80353596
fucking hell

>>80354099
G O A T

>>80354099
shame we cant see human eyes. that'd make them even creepier

>>80354142
https://youtu.be/8Hp-BHhU240>>80354142


Whenever I see this I hear that beautiful fucking opening scream

RRREEEEOOWW

>>80354178
No, empty sockets are creepier.

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>>80354182
yes! and that FWOOOOM at the very end too

>>80354214
can't agree soz

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>>80354099
They better have the original style voices

>>80354262
>>80354301
These would look like shit in HD though, you'd be able to see their eyes clearly and see that it's just a normal person.

>>80354341
Not if they give them black, or even white contact lenses or something like the Flood people in Waters of Mars

>>80354262
I love how you can see the sellotape around the headpiece on this pic

>>80354423
>Selotapian Cybermen
>IN A PRESS RELEASE FOR NORMAL PEOPLE

kek

>>80354423
>the s10 ones don't have sellotape
REEEEE

just noticed the S10 Mondasians also have big tennis ball ears, rather than thick rubber rings.

>>80354543
They look like they may be the transitional phase between the Tenth Planet/Tomb versions

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>>80354585

This would be a fucking GOAT theme tune

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lRwnfYHpq4

>>80354634
Duuhh duh-duh duuhh-duuhh. DUUUUHHHH DUH DUUHH.

>>80354824
https://youtu.be/D0AMuNVQCzM?t=14m33s

I always liked this theme too, from 00:18

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXE85LamACk

>>80354099
Briggs will still be voicing these ones right? His Tenth Planet impression in Spare Parts and that Mondas cameo in the Reaping was decent enough.

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>>80354178

>>80354958
Probably. No reason to believe he won't do the voices. Apparently he tried out a Tenth Planet style voice for Nightmare in Silver but they ended up going with Cyberfrog.

Really hoping Briggs pulls the 60s voice off. If they use the sing song one, it could be hilariously naff or GOAT

>>80352429
TWO WEEKS

>>80355021
I like how the lights reflect off the headlamp in this... if the S10 lamps don't light up then it's an opportunity missed. They're almost hypnotic.

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Return of the Brigadier

>>80353239
>I don't know where the "12 keeps X locked up" originates.
>I mean, for all we know, it's Missy who's got something locked up - which 12, Bill and Nardole discover in the series.
Literally, all we know is that there's a big, scary door.

>You are entering the vicinity of an area adjacent to a location. The kind of place where there might be a monster, or some kind of weird mirror. These are just examples; it could also be something much better. Prepare to enter: The Scary Door.

>>80355119
NarDOORle

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Mondas Cyber Conversion

>>80354824
lost

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>>80355119
anyone got a door screencap from the leaked trailer? did the round designs match these?

Cos this could be the same location if so.

Imagine if, after all this, it's just the climax of episode 2 and a Giant Emojibot is trying to escape or some shit

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>>80355215
Holy shit, could this be a Cyberman factory?

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>>80354099
why does this look GOAT but the ones in motion/in the GIF look shit

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>>80355215
Nope. Looks like what may be Gallifreyan circle writing.

>>80355461
Fair enough, thanks for the cap.

Intriguing.

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this cybermans my favourite because human eyes and bizarrely tall helmet

>>80355461
Surprised nobody's claiming it's the Hybrid behind the door

>>80355461
the spiky door of doom of rassilon

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The Doctor: it's the end, but the moment has been prepared for.

Bill: So he was The Doctor all the time!

>>80355620
>tfw to intelligent to have emotions

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>post yfw you realized the hydroflax is the hybrid

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>>80355775
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>>80355709
>Not a black woman cause muh diversity
I'm okay with this,

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julio is in the basement

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>>80355775

What are you listening to, /who/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5UGzAHeRBE

>>80357339
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmFp0I8AZqw
pg9

>>80357339
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMK_npDG12Q

>>80358131
I really like The Andy Griffiths Show.

>>80357339
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_jWHffIx5E

>>80358473
Good wholesome fun for the whole family, not unlike doctor who.

>>80358563
Plus, Doctor Who takes place in the Andy Griffith/Mayberry/Gomer Pyle USMC universe, just like Hee Haw and Blakes 7.

>>80358686
What?

>>80357339
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywlWkkNl19U

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Did Barrowman not realize this picture makes him look like some old gay pervert who hired male strippers at his birthday party, then took them home and had sex with them, sex that the strippers didn't enjoy and only did it because he has lots of money?

>>80358818
It was sort of a meme from back before they were called memes.

Del Tarrant, the arrogant pilot in Blakes, says his family have been pilots since before the days of space travel. And there's a Gomer Pyle episode where they have to guard a naval airbase, and the arrogant ace pilot is named Captain Tarrant. Obviously Del's ancestor, therefore same universe.

I think people found other connections, but that was the main one.

>>80358686
This boils down to the doctor whistling the theme to Andy Griffith at some point doesnt it?

>>80358973
I doubt he cares seeing as he's been known as a young pervert before the gray. Strippers can have a daddy fetish. I understand it's quite common among the female variety.

>>80358973
I think that was the look he was going for

>>80359020
Nothing quite that solid, otherwise Andy Griffith would have a page on TARDIS Data Core.

>>80358973
Do you know a better way to advertise to all the strippers on the internet "I have lots of money to give you in exchange for sex"?

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>>80358686
That's a hell of a claim, I'll have to consult the map for this one.

>>80359081
A shame, truly.

>>80359109
>1477706371373.jpg
I'm pretty sure most people just connect Doctor Who to everything in America through Red Dwarf meeting Daleks and also meeting the Red Dwarf actors, one of whom appeared as himself on an American show, or something like that? You can get almost anywhere with enough degrees of separation, but that's less fun.

>>80359068
It's just that I've witnessed this IRL; was invited to the bachelor party of this rich old gay asian who's known for sleeping with everyone in town

>>80359189
Wait, looking at the map… Who to Red Dwarf, but then that connects directly to both Star Trek and Angel, both of which connect up to the rest of the universe through the John Larroquette Show. I don't think I know any of those connections.

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>>80359254
You should of gone. Youth and YOLO and all that. Could have come back with quite the story.
Barrowman reportedly likes grindr and is scottish, per the stereotype and grindr being free I doubt he actually pays for it.

>>80359401
Never forget.
http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/text/%22%3E%3E%3E%2Fhm%2F904892%22/

>>80359401
I did go. It was disgusting. I should be like other gay men and kill myself at 30

>>80359465
All bachelor parties are straight ones too, its kind of the point. Also dont do that. John Waters' best work comes after he turned 30 senpaitachi.

>>80359520
*parties are, straight

>>80359520
old gay people sicken me
they're all over grindr slobbering over 18 year olds
and hitting on them despite being fat and gray

>>80359520
I had a friend who married a gay guy to be his beard back in the 90s, and he had a pretty gay bachelor party. Or I suppose it was a "mixed, gay-friendly" kind of party; strippers of both sexes and everything.

>>80359558
That's probably the majority of older men in general fat and gray, slobbering over 18yr olds it's not just a gay thing.
>>80359568
Well they're supposed to be as debaucherous as one can handle, one last bash to get it out of your system etc.

>>80359715
But then rich old straight guys don't seem to have the energy to chase a new 18-year-old girl every week. Just find one, buy her a condo in the city and a new fur coat every Christmas, and stick with her for years.

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Damn, Rachel Stott looks like THAT?

>>80360010
I want to cum in her eyes.

>>80359715
Why are you defending degeneracy?
>tripfag
Oh, right.

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>>80360102
>degeneracy

>>80359858
well with girls I'd venture to say there's a greater time investment just because of communication/translation. There's alot of game playing back and forth.
Between two guys I'd imagine you could kind of cut the bullshit between the two of you and get down to what either wants out of the potential relationship.
Also id think most straight men would prefer to keep a harem as to randoms because of the time involved.

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>>80360102
Welcome to /who/ I'm Cloister, enjoy your stay.

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>>80360010
This was her original about-the-author pic.

Blog post below

>send friend the Protect and Survive summary
>we get to talking about it
>he starts to show a genuine interest in Doctor Who
>tfw he's seriously interested in Big Finish too

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>>80360010
And here she is accepting an award in 2015.

>>80360010
>>80360396
>>80360446
This the comic girl? Very talented.

>>80360445
Now you spring the trap and drag him into this hell that is fandom.

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>>80360515
>This the comic girl? Very talented.

Yes, and yes. And also great taste.

>[Capaldi] is my favourite. His incarnation reinvigorated my love of the show.

>I was already drawing him for myself, before I got the job. Sure, Tennant is hot, but Capaldi is the sexiest of all the Doctors.

And, about receiving pic related from Capaldi:
>I GOT FANMAIL I'M CRYING OMG
>BEST DAY OF MY LIFE

>>80360445
Congrats on the success evangelizing doctor who. I both envy and pity your friend.
>>80360687
That's a very cool thing to see and read. Glad Capaldi's doctor is being handled in the EU that loves him.

>>80360687
Is this a picture capaldi drew?

>>80361920
Yeah, he drew it on a folding postcard and mailed it to her. Pretty cool of him.

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Haven't watch Dr Who in 2 years because I couldn't stand Moffats shit tier plots anymore.
Is it worth me catching up on what I've missed?

>>80362363
Did you watch any of capaldi?

>>80362385
I started watching a bunch of his eps but couldn't finish any.
I like his Doctor, but the plots were just so shit.

>>80362486
what about the plots made them shit to you?
I can't say whether you'll like any of the newer episodes before I know this

>>80362363
If you quit two years ago, you've probably only missed two Christmas specials.

Hardcore fans liked the first one and hated the second before they even saw it. The rest of the world kinda liked the first one and liked the second better.

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>>80362522
They were just bad, nonsensical, historically inaccurate etc.
It's hard to pin point a specific problem but they likely all boil down to Moffat not giving a shit about researching anything.

>>80362669
If you don't like historical inaccuracies don't watch the S9 opener

The meme response is usually to recommend Heaven Sent because it's considered GOAT but I don't know if it would come under your definition of "nonsensical". Maybe give it a try but don't blame me if you don't like it

>>80362669
>researching
>for Doctor Who
lol

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>>80362772
I don't mind if it has some funky science shit as long as it isn't used like deus ex machina.
I might give that a shot then, though it's pretty late in the season by the looks of it so I it doesn't need much context.

Thanks for advice.

>when people blame moffat for shitty plots when they're referring to a gattiss episode
Lel

>>80362908
Basically all of the context you need is given to you.
The only additional thing you need to know is that there's this spooky abstract concept of a "hybrid" that people have been scared of all series

>>80362669
>historically inaccurate
Um… Do you come from a few centuries in the future? Because otherwise, I'm finding it hard to see how you could find any historical inaccuracies in series 8, unless you completely missed the point of Robot of Sherwood.

>>80363071
Nonsense. If Moffat had researched the history of Gallifrey, he would have known that the architectural design of that barn was from at least 6 centuries later.

>>80363194
On a serious note, what were they thinking with that barn? Why does it appear to have an Earth-tractor wheel inside it?

>>80363223
>implying gallifreyans didn't also have to invent the wheel at some point

The better question is why is it literally just outside the capital dome when in Day of the Doctor it was in the middle of a desert that had a clear blue sky?

>>80363071
I started other episodes but couldn't finish them, some were probably from season 9 or w/e.

>>80363223
I'd think the ideal shape for a tractor wheel would be the same on all planets.

>>80363223
>On a serious note, what were they thinking with that barn? Why does it appear to have an Earth-tractor wheel inside it?
The idea that some Outsiders have basically a mid-20th-century English countryside lifestyle and tech is surely less outlandish, not more, than the ones we saw in the classic series, who were basically Adam Ant playing 18th century savages with Native American tech.

>>80362899
It happens, just not with Doctor Who on television.

>>80363639
Hey, Marco Polo was based on a lot of research, even if the research materials were themselves heavily fictionalized accounts. And… OK, that's all I've got. But it happened once on TV, sort of, in 1964.

>>80363639
Also, I have a weird feeling Lawrence Miles would spend all his time reading about 18th century whorehouses even if he weren't writing novels, so does that really count as research for Doctor Who?

(Night /who/ best /who/)

Does anyone have a link to the black-and-white series 8 leaked workprints? I want to rewatch Listen with the original soundtrack and nostalgia

>>80363639
Mark Gatiss researches horror movies like a motherfucker, yet he has no idea how to make Doctor Who scary. So it's not like that would make stories better.

>>80360687
Capaldi's drawings are amazing
The BBC should commission him to draw some new posters for them to sell

>>80364126
Well yeah, research doesn't automatically translate into writing talent. Otherwise every person who has ever had to write an academic paper would be churning out great stuff.

>>80360687
>he even gave him cross eyebrows

That's really neat. Surprisingly good artist.

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>>80364258
>>80364378
When Capaldi was showing off his sketches of all of the classic Doctors, there was also this self-portrait.

>>80364525
He also drew Pertwee as Wurzel Gummidge and Tom Baker from The Millionairess, but I can't find those online.

>>80364525
Looks nothing like him desu

>>80364587
Yeah, and it looks exactly like someone else (except for the penis attached to the nose), and I can't think of who it is.

>>80364667
Dick Van Dyke? Bob Saget?

>>80364689
Yeah, maybe Dick van Dyke is what I was thinking.

Why has nobody copped on yet that Capaldi is a closeted Homosexual?

Where can I watch the new trailer, it's not on YouTube

>>80364753
Who cares?

Anyone want to see the Fisher Kings species back? I thought they were a cool design and didn't get enough screen time. I'd like to see them throw Tivolians across rooms.

>>80364894
I don't.

>>80364757
https://vid.me/Y087

>>80364927
Why not? as far as /who/ monsters go they weren't too bad.

>>80364894
To be honest, I barely remember the episode they were in.

>>80364951
No, he wasn't bad, but there wasn't anything special about him that I'd like to see explored more. The design looks decent, but there was something weird about how it looked in motion too. I don't think the director tried very hard to distract anybody from the fact that it was just someone in a costume.

Can someone talk a bit about Tamsin, from the Big Finish audios, the EDAs?

I've just listened to her first two stories (Situation Vacant and Nevermore) and I'm having trouble getting a read on her :/

I'd like to like the companion but she's just feeling very bland, like a cipher, to me at the moment. 8 mentioned her in The Night of the Doctor so I assume she's memorable for him, but yeah, what's her deal?

>>80365000
the spooky underwater base with the ghosts.

honestly that episode and it's follow up, I thought was one of the better Capaldi who stories.

also it had that neat electric guitar who theme, and the bootstrap paradox is a fun concept to mess around with

>>80365166
Her deal is that she doesn't really fit with the Doctor, and that she's just a replacement for Lucie. And they both know it.

>>80364894
I always thought they look like if JNT had an actual budget to make the Vervoids.

>>80365166
>8 mentioned her in The Night of the Doctor so I assume she's memorable for him
Well, really, 8 mentioned her because she's important to Nick Briggs and/or to Big Finish's sales…

But anyway, her deal is that she's really not the right companion for this Doctor, and she's not Lucie, but even knowing that I still find her pretty boring. I don't want to give away any spoilers in case you don't know where her story's going, but it seems like in any medium, when they create a companion for that kind of story, they have a really hard time writing the character to be interesting.

>>80365307
>Her deal is that she doesn't really fit with the Doctor, and that she's just a replacement for Lucie. And they both know it.

Oh that's actually quite an interesting angle. I'll keep that more in mind when I listen to the next story.

>>80364894
Why did the BBC get Corey Taylor from Slipknot to voice the Fisher Kings screams but not his speaking voice?

>>80365409
Honestly, I'm surprised it took this long for Peter Serafinowicz to show up in anything Doctor Who-related.

>>80365355
>Well, really, 8 mentioned her because she's important to Nick Briggs and/or to Big Finish's sales…

All the companions 8 lists (Charlie, C'rizz, Lucie, Tamsin, Molly) are companions that have died, or 8 thinks have died. Charley didn't actually die but the others did, and who knows what 8 thinks happened with The Girl Who Never Was.

>>80365409
Because Darth Maul's voice was cooler.

>>80364064
Hello, N8. How are you?

So is it generally accepted Moffat shitposts in /who/ ?

>>80365445
But he's got other companions who died—like Gemma Griffin, or both versions of Sam Jones. And Kroton basically died in the same way Molly did. And there may be others that aren't coming to mind immediately because Eight has had a few zillion companions by this point.

>>80365651
Are any of those BF companions, though?

>>80365651

Not BF. Moff is a fan of BF but not that familiar with the comics or novels or anything.

>>80365722
>not that familiar with the novels
*wink wink*

>>80365742

?

>>80365429
It seems like Peter doesn't go back to England that much anymore since he bought his house in LA. It seems like he used to be on six panel shows a week, and any show that could find a use for him, but since then, all I can think of is two voice jobs (Good Omens and the Fisher King) and a cameo (The World's End), and otherwise, he only works in America.

>>80365620
>Danny Pink died because he didn't SPLINK
It's certain.

>>80365685
Gemma is a BF companion, but she doesn't have a long run of adventures; she's mostly just referenced as a past companion. The others are from novels and comics.

And that's my point. Is it really just a coincidence that the list of dead companions that Nick Briggs gave Moffat to use happened to only include the ones that Nick had written for and/or that his company had lots of audios with to sell?

>>80365803
I don't think Moffat was expecting viewers to go to a used book store and pay $30 for a wornout copy of Vampire Science to understand who Sam is.

>>80365803
>and/or that his company had lots of audios with to sell

That's really broad and doesn't make much sense. Doctors tend to travel a lot with their companions, ergo the BF companions tend to have a lot of stories. Isn't it much more likely Moff listed the BF companions he remembered, or googeld and checked to be in sequence, since he's familiar with BF, rather than conspired with Briggs to subtly push people to buying audios that either Briggs had a hand in or...there are a lot of? I can't really parse your thought process here.

>>80365722
>Not BF. Moff is a fan of BF but not that familiar with the comics or novels or anything.
Um… What?

He wrote about the EDA novels online. He used to hang out with half the writers on at least a weekly basis. He publicly high-fived Lawrence Miles for finally getting rid of Sam Jones in Interference. So I'm pretty sure he's familiar with Sam Jones from the EDAs.

>>80365864

>He wrote about the EDA novels online.

He wrote about the VNAs online, not the EDAs

>He used to hang out with half the writers on at least a weekly basis.

Gross exaggeration

>He publicly high-fived Lawrence Miles for finally getting rid of Sam Jones in Interference

Literally untrue

>>80365722
>Moff is a fan of BF
Doubt

>>80365850
>Doctors tend to travel a lot with their companions, ergo the BF companions tend to have a lot of stories.
Except for Gemma and Samson Griffin, who don't have a lot of stories even though they traveled with the Doctor for years. There's no reason they wouldn't be important to the Doctor especially since Gemma was the first of his companions to die.

>>80365847
>I don't think Moffat was expecting viewers to go to a used book store and pay $30 for a wornout copy of Vampire Science to understand who Sam is.
I don't think Moffat was expecting viewers to give Big Finish $5 to understand who Charley was, either. I don't think he really cares either way.

>>80365930
>Literally untrue
Well, hey, maybe Andy Lane is wrong and some anonymous guy on 4chan knows everything that ever happened.

Also, this was obviously said by someone who's never heard of any novel with Sam Jones, right?
>Deep down you know Alien Bodies is the best thing you've ever written, and you know nothing you write is ever going to have the same impact again.

>>80365803
Honestly, I don't think they had any ulterior motive other than to include 8 in the 50th anniversary celebration. Not every single facet of his run, but at least some of it to shut up idiots that only think the TV Movie is canon.

Still, if they did include those companions specifically for sales reasons...so what?

>>80366046
I don't think Moffat had any ulterior motive. I doubt he even made the list; he probably just said, "Hey, Nick, if the Eighth Doctor was going to list his companions, who should he list?"

And I think Nick's ulterior motive is more likely just that these are the characters he's written for and knows and cares about, not actually a financial incentive. But either way, I honestly don't see a problem with it.

I was just saying that these aren't actually necessarily the companions most important to the Eighth Doctor, they're the companions most important to Nick Briggs. That's not a value judgment. It just means that when you ask "Why was Tamsin important enough to list but not Sam Jones", the answer isn't anything in-universe.

>>80366000

His favourite 6 story is The Holy Terror, his favourite 8 story is The Chimes of Midnight, he's spoken at relative length about Big Finish before, he's explicitly stated he left loads of big gaps in 11's timeline to make it easier for Big Finish to place stories there, he's talked about being happy about handing River over to Big Finish, the list goes on and on.

>>80366108
>I was just saying that these aren't actually necessarily the companions most important to the Eighth Doctor

Literally no one in the thread has said that. The theory discussed was about them being ones 8 believed died.

>>80364894
Does the fisher king species have a gimmick? Are they inherently monsters or was the fisher king just a bad egg?

>>80366108
Maybe it's because these were the companions that Paul McGann had pretty good knowledge of since he starred in audios with them. He'd probably be confused at saying "Sam, Fitz, Compassion, Anji, Trix" instead of character names he's previously said out loud.

Peter Harness's episode is about the Minister of War
The Minister of War will be donald trump
It will receive the highest AI score of any doctor who episode

>>80366123
>His favourite 6 story is The Holy Terror

I didn't think the Moff had taste this good.

>>80366137
The anon asking the question said:
>I assume she's memorable for him

Being dead makes her more memorable than, say, Mary Shelley. But it doesn't make her more memorable than, say, Gemma Griffin or Sam Jones.

Maybe the theory is just wrong. But I think it's more likely that it's right but incomplete: these are the ones among the dead ones who are meaningful to Nick Briggs.

They had to narrow the list down somehow or that scene would have taken up the entire episode. So why not do it that way?

>>80366189

Anon who said memorable here - I am not engaged in this debate, I don't know why you're using my point.

>>80366189

Your way makes no sense given that Charley is in it, and if you broaden it to "companions Briggs wrote plus uh, companions with a lot of stories but um, just in audio format" you've lost the plot and are reverse-engineering your theory clumsily.

>>80366123
Your list sucks. Being able to name 2 old audios isn't much proof that you're a fan, especially since neither of them are particularly obscure. Of course he has a good professional relationship with Briggs/BF, and cares about what they do, but the idea that he follows their releases or gets home and listens to any audios is pretty absurd.

Imagining him reading any of the novels nowadays is almost equally as absurd, but at least we actually have reason to believe that he used to be invested in them.

>>80366152
Really, all we know about his species is that he's one of them and he's a "warlord". That could mean he was a popular warlord of a warlike species, or a brutal warlord hated by his people, or an outcast who became a warlord by conquering other races because he'd been kicked off his own planet, or… The writers pretty much have it wide open.

>>80366229

I didn't say he was a fan, I said he was familiar with BF. The fact that, oh I don't know, he's quite literally familiar with BF seems to prove my point. But go on strawmanning some bizarre point about Moff keeping up with the latest audios I guess. You do you. The fact that a giant Doctor Who fan like him listened to some audios in the wilderness years is just too crazy, right?

>>80366213
You asked the question that we're trying to answer here. So it's relevant what the actual question was.

>>80366227
>Your way makes no sense given that Charley is in it
How? Nick Briggs wrote and directed a pretty good number of Charley stories, starting with her second one. So why does it make no sense to you that she'd be important to him than Gemma Griffin, who he never wrote for or directed?

I remember back when he used to have a Twitter that he told all his followers to listen to some recent 5 audios at the time like Cobwebs.

>>80366328

I asked what Tamsin was like as a character, not whether there was some conspiracy about Briggs or Moffat ignoring the novels or something...I feel like you're using my pretty breezy post as an excuse to argue with other anons and it's unpleasant :/

>>80366391
What "conspiracy"? I don't get why anyone thinks there's something unsavory about the possibility that Nick Briggs would care more about, or better remember, the characters he's written for than about the ones he hasn't, much less why they're getting offended on his behalf about it.

Even if it was for sales, again, what's offensive about that?

The only reason I quoted you is… well, look, when somebody says "literally nobody said X" when somebody did say X, how would you answer that except by quoting X?

>>80366551

Nick Briggs didn't write The Night of the Doctor...Moffat did...and he likes the audios...

>>80366551

I'm not your shield. Don't use me in your arguments again.

>>80366551
Nigga, just stop involving people that don't want to be involved.

>>80366589
Moffat's got a continuity advisor and a script editor on salary, so he doesn't have to remember "what was the name of the planet in episode 2 last year?". That doesn't make him any less of a writer. Why would it be any different if he asked Nick "what would be a good list of companions for Eight to mention as he died?"

>>80366604
If you don't want your posts to be quoted without your express written permission, maybe you're posting in the wrong place.

>>80366650
>>80366679

dude literally no one is enjoying talking to you

>>80366695
I don't know which anon you are, but you just quoted two different people there. And do you think both of us are enjoying talking to you?

Everyone, stop engaging with the "muh Briggs" dickhead.

So much debate over one line in a seven minute short that came out years ago.

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>>80366715

fuck offerino

>>80366715
I'm not enjoying talking to him. But you're an idiot for responding.

If you want to troll, troll.

If you want a conversation, don't try having it with someone who obviously just wants a fight instead.

What's the point?

>>80366283
>I didn't say he was a fan, I said he was familiar with BF.

>>80365722
>Moff is a fan of BF

???

>>80366843

I am the second person and not the first person.

Honestly, much as I love /who/, actual forums and Reddit and shit do have the advantage of people not being able to pretend they're other users, since they have usernames.

>>80366868
You can always trip if you really want.

>>80366887

I don't want to, I prefer putting up with these occasional confusions over people tripcoding. Really, frustrating as they are, it's somewhat amusing that there's at least one troll in this thread arguing both sides of this Briggs argument just to rile people up.

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>>80366755
To be honest, I just don't get it. Who gives a damn about whether or not Moffat has a shelf of Big Finish CDs or why 8 didn't list off every companion ever?

>>80366868
Why would somebody directly respond to a post arguing against Moffat being a fan of BF and then suddenly turn around and go "Who said anything about being a fan? We're just talking about him knowing they exist!" Fucking hell

>>80366941

I am not the post you are referring to, I am the post after that, and the one two posts before it.

>>80366906
There's at least three separate arguments going on with at least four people, possibly more, but I suspect all of them are actually trolling.

Is it actually possible that anyone could be offended by any of these possibilities:
>Moffat might not remember the books
>Or he might
>Briggs might care more about Charley than Gemma
>Or maybe not
>Moffat might have consulted Briggs
>Or he might not
>Some anon was quoted on 4chan
>Some other anon was confused for a different anon on 4chan

>>80367017

I am the Tamsin guy who apparently started all this

The first 3 things do not bother me in the slightest. The 4th one bemuses me if that's what's actually happened. I don't know why someone said this >>80366604
Because that wasn't me

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>>80367017
>>80367059


>All along, it was me! Russel T!

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IF WE FIGHT LIKE ANIMALS WE DIE LIKE ANIMALS.

The idea of thousands of Who fans bitching that 8 didn't mention Ssard or Bazima in Night of the Doctor is funny to me.

>>80367078
The last post confused me enough that I can't figure out if you actually are RTD, of Gatiss pretending to be RTD to troll us.

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>>80367234

I couldn't very well keep calling myself the Moff now could I?

>>80367234
Obviously, he's Gareth no more

>>80367205
The DVD really should have a Director's Cut of that episode where the video pauses for 18 minutes in that middle of that line so there's time for a bad Paul McGann impersonator to list everyone who's even arguably been a companion of Eight in any medium.

>>80367309
That sounds like a piece of art

>>80367309
Only if the DVD case only says "Contains the 25-minute extended version of Night of the Doctor!"

Like that live-action Futurama fanvid that had a 30-minute extended version, where all they did was add 12 minutes of the Hypnotoad to pad it out to 30 minutes.

>>80367309

That would be pretty straightforward to do. Cut after he says "Lucie, Tamsin, Molly" back to the face of Ohila. Isolate some of the ambient sounds of the scene and loop in the background. While the shot is on Ohila, have a McGann impersonator list whoever. Then cut back to McGann proper to say "friends, companions I've know, I salute you".

>>80367393
If you can do a bad McGann impression, I think you've just volunteered to make the fanvid.

>>80367309
>Ayfai, Bazima, Charley, C'rizz, Deborah, the other Evelyn, Chang Lee, Chantir, Liv, Compassion, Daphne, Miranda, Josie, Tamsin, Destrii, Ediphis, Maxwell, Susan, Edward, Gemma, Good Sam, Grace, Bad Sam, Anji, Fitz, Kroton, Trix, Lucie, Molly, Rita, Helen, Mary, Izzy, Lorenzo, Ssard, Roy, Benny, Todd, Stacy, Fey, Billy, Alex ...friends, companions I've known. I salute you.

>>80367445

Is this the definitive list that would satisfy everyone? I might just do >>80367425
that

>>80367445
>the other Evelyn
I love the idea of him referring to her as "the other Evelyn". Like, "Obviously you're no Evelyn Smythe, even though I haven't seen her in two incarnations."

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Should I buy it?

>>80367445
...And you still left out Izzy.

They have a list of companions at this link: http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Eighth_Doctor

But what that original anon was saying was, why didn't Eight mention the comic and novel companions who died? The answer is, he forgot.

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Lmao.

That's Gareth!
Like, really, Gareth wrote it. Should I buy this one instead?

>>80367552
I'm a huge fan of Doktop Kto.

https://www.bigfinish.com/news/v/churchill-meets-madam-vastra

So they can have individual members of the Paternoster Gang show up, but not them together? That's weird.

>>80367484
Samson (Gemma's brother)
Debbie (Miranda's teacher)
Romana (Shada)
K9 (Shada, and also sort of Gallifrey Chronicles)
William (Shakespeare) (that Short Trips that India Fisher narrated)

But of course it won't satisfy everyone. You know that someone will be yelling "Billy? Are you serious? He doesn't count as a companion, you pleb!"

I hope when 12 regenerates, he says the names of every single companion he's ever had from every one of his incarnations.

>>80367625
So they can have individual members of the Paternoster Gang show up, but not them together? That's weird.
Maybe he's changed his mind on them not using the Gang? If they don't appear in S10, he's done with them, so why not?

Is it Vastra in the 1940s, or Churchill as a kid? If it's young Churchill, it could be before she met Jenny?

>>80367309
>>80367393
It's even funnier because he has like 3 minutes to live or something and then he just recites this massive list of names for no reason.

>>80367731
>I hope when 12 regenerates, he says the names of every single companion he's ever had from every one of his incarnations.

That could be fun.
>Susan, Ian, Barbara, John and Gillian—google it, or just go to the TARDIS Data Core, and why don't you just keep the page open, and don't vandalize it until after you've watched the rest of this episode, even though I know it's hard not to—Vicki, Steven, Hi-Fi, Katarina, Sara—that's Sara without an H—and maybe Bret, Dodo, Ben, Polly, George, Helen, …

>>80367808
kek

I wonder if there's any video of the actress who played Ohila looking pointedly at her watch?

>>80367677
>>80367808

Alright I've done it, I'll upload it now, lel

>>80367309
>>80367393
>>80367425
>>80367677
>>80367808

Here it is

https://vid.me/uglz

Apologies for my voice being nothing like McGann's

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This books looks GOAT.

>>80367753
>Is it Vastra in the 1940s, or Churchill as a kid? If it's young Churchill, it could be before she met Jenny?
Or, instead of being lazy, I could follow the link that you provided in the very post I was responding to…

So, not kid Churchill, but 21-year-old Churchill. In 1895, so she's already married to Jenny, and hanging out with Strax too.

So I'll bet she'll say, "I'm a lizard woman from the dawn of time, and I left my wife at home", and Churchill will say, "That's fine, if I had a wife I'd leave her at the altar".

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Jo a cute

Guys help I can't bring myself to finish the second part of the episode with the daleks turning into humans and theres a bunch of guys dressed like pigs in new york. It's been holding me back for a month and it's been the largest barrier since time and the rani.

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Number nine

>>80368044
>I didn't know when I was well off. All 5 of them.
>No, sir, all 45!

>>80368126
There are a couple of good jokes in that episode. Just watch for those and try to ignore the whole plot and you should get through it.

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Clala Oswald

>>80368200
What a woman.

>>80367589
It's pretty good. Better than most new series novels.

>>80368200
Hey, I actually recognize that second word under Clara's name from the Russian class I dropped out of. Devushka, Girl.

So the other one must be how you say Pancakes in Russian, right?

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Adric!

>>80368282
No, the other one is "impossible"

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Miss him?

>>80368293
Why does Adric need a callout arrow to point out his comfortable, free trousers?

>>80368367
OK, what do you call "Abzorbaloff" in Russian? Transliterate it directly? Take the Russian word for "absorb" and make it sound like a fake English name?

>>80368293
I thought you Russkies banned homosexuality.

>>80368427
Пoглoщyн.
transcripts like: Pogloschun
Пoглoщaть (pogloschat) - "to absorb" in russian

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>>80368402
That's in the English version of the Character Encyclopedia too.

And I have no idea why he gets callouts for his clothing, but a couple other characters do. I think there's one for Professor Lazarus's shoes.

>>80367500
*one incarnation
She meets 7 in A Death in the Family

>>80368462
They just ignored the fake-Russian-sounding-name ending when translating to Russian? That's kind of boring.

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>>80368472
Adelaide Brooke: Hair worn off face.

These facts are even more exciting than the ones on TARDIS Data Core.

>>80368150
TWO NUMBER 45S

>>80368472
Utilitarian trousers? His pants believe the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few?

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Fun fact. Russian channels fucked up "cybermen" translation twice.

The first channels translated it just like "cyborgs"
And the other one assumed that it were only men for some reason, so it was literally Cyber men. It's hard to explain, but they were Cyber manlets. Like, no woman allowed for convertion.

I havent checked the recent broadcast of series 7, but I hope they fixed it already.

>>80368525
I think they probably meant purely functional, not decorative, but I like your version better. After all, the most common criticism of utilitarianism is that it's impossible to actually do all of Bentham's utility calculations, but Adric is a smarty-pants.

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>>80368589
That must have been either especially funny or kind of confusing in The Next Doctor.

Or, if they carried Torchwood, in pic related.

>>80368589
For S10, they should use the right word for the Mondasians but the Cybermanlet one for the Cybus ones.

>>80368651
They ignore Capaldi seasons as far as I know.

>>80368669
What, is the Capaldi era banned in Russia? Because that'd be weird since the RTD era is the gay one.

>>80368686
I guess people in Russia just dont care about Doctor Who anymore. It's super niche, Series 1 and 2 got high ratings back in 2006, but thats pretty much it

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Im running out of pictures and I already left the shop.

>>80367078
When was that? That's the S9 onwards tardis

>>80368991
You didn't hear? RTD was onset today filming a minisode with David Bradley.

>>80368991
It's from The South Bank Show back when they interviewed Russel last year. He visited the set.

He's quite funny in that bit actually "Where to? Gallfrey, let's get those bastards"

>>80369198
Is there a video of it on youtube?

>>80368200
Perfection.

>>80360687
>what an incrible

wut

New

>>80369792
>>80369792
>>80369792

New thread

>>80369792
>>80369792
>>80369792