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what?

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reminder that bingo
I'm popping out for a few hours so you can argue about what should go on and I'll add it all later

penis

Dubs confirm Gareth is the person locked in the basement by Capaldi.

>>80280226
>Embarrassing to watch with family
Christmas Day, 2009, when Obama's head was shaking around.
Why...?

>>80280146
Best episode

I remember sitting down with a big group of mates to watch this.

So much fucking hype.

Soon Series 6 came along and the show just descended into one long-running meme filled with gimmicks.

>le fez
>le stetson
>le spoilers
>le 'i am the doctor'

>>80280226
12 rubs honey on nardoles head then licks it

Theres no way episode 2 and the Gatiss episode will be good

>>80280267
How the hell didn’t Journey's End kill your hype?

>>80280298
It might surprise you.

>>80280267
>>le fez
Not a single fez in series 6
>le stetson
Literally 2 scenes
>le spoilers
Done through series 4-9
>le 'i am the doctor'
This one is correct

>>80280385
I was eleven desu. I loved it then.

>>80280413
Wasn't he wearing a fez when he was in that old-timey movie that Rory was watching, even though Rory didn't notice it? At the beginning, I mean.

And the Stetson was more than just two scenes. It made an appearance in two separate episodes for a pretty decent amount of time.

Anyone have that naked gif of Alex Kingston?

>>80280385
>le Journey's End was shit meme
There will never be another scene as comfy as everyone helping fly the TARDIS to return Earth to the Solar System.

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Who's your favorite Morbius Doctor?

>>80280226
Students are rude to Bill about her shitty job.

>>80280435
Fair enough then.

>>80280673
Sorry, no memes here. I genuinely think it's garbage. But then again, everything somebody can potentially disagree with is a meme here.

>>80280673
Take off your trip Russell

>>80280673
I cringed at that. Journey's End WAS shit.

2 EPISODES LEAKED

>>80280965
what?

>>80280965
MARCELOOOOOOOOO!!

>>80280965
what?

>>80280965
I DONT BELIEVE YOU
POST PROOF

>>80280226
Mawkish sentimentality.

>>80280226
Unsatisfying story arc resolution.

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>>80280965
4/10
made me search

>>80280226
Bill saves the Doctor in episode 1.

>>80281143
what episode is that from?

>>80281165
>>80281165
From her chips.

>>80280226
Bill makes chips in the TARDIS
Bill does/says something retarded in every episode

EPISODE 4 HAPPENING!
http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/10845120/Doctor_Who_Series_8_Episode_4_unedited

>>80281201
The best one

Return of Doctor Mysterio is so god damn Comfy!

>>80281232
Got me there for a sec

>>80281232
>series 8

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>>80281232
>Series_8

>>80281294
http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/47927600/#47930687

I wish an episode would leak for real. Leak /who/ was so fucking comfy. The trailer was like a little taste of it again.

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WAT? how could you even consider the Woman who lived a good episode, let alone one of the best in the series? it was awful.

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>>80281232
Nice try.

>>80281385
>universal acclaim
>83% on Rotten Tomatoes
What did they mean by this? But yeah, we've known since Kill the Moon that critics who review Doctor Who are barmy.

>>80280226
Missy's TARDIS.

>>80281385
I liked it

>>80281385
Why wasn't "Woman" a pure historical?

>>80281442
It's the same for a lot of things, Sherlock Series 3 got critical acclaim too and that was a load of wank

>>80281496
It would have been decent had not for that stupid cat man and the shitty special effects at the hanging when that portal thing opened up.

>>80280226
Episode 12 will be Nardole's last episode,

>>80281567
And Bill's

>>80280226
Christmas will be Bill's last episode.

>>80281582
See above.

>>80281385
Generally speaking, I don't think most critics can actually tell the difference between good and bad Doctor Who. Well, either that or they're lying for extra perks.

I think fan opinion is actually more reliable than reviews from professional sources these days, although not by much.

>>80281599
>>80281627
>implying Clara won't be the companion for Capaldi's last episode

>>80280226
Surprise regeneration

Will Nardole be in every episode? Why is he only considered a guest star?

>>80281830
According to Matt he will not
But in the trailers and filming pics he seems to appear in most of them
So who nose

>>80281830
He's not he's listed as a main star.

>tfw 12 could've done SO. MUCH. MORE!

>https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0bOJbTQrM9wbGJ2WW5tSzgzVTg/view
FUCK, I just keep rewatching this trailer, series 10 is going to be GOAT. Capaldi's best series incoming.

http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/47937564/#47937672

>An episode where everybody must not sleep sounds like a good idea for me.

Mark was that you?

>>80281908
>SO. MUCH. MORE!
What is this SO MUCH MORE that you people keep talking about?
I mean what can Capaldi do after Heaven Sent

>>80282122
Memes anon, memes.

>>80281908
He still has 13 episodes left you mong.

>>80282159
Possibly 14, there are rumours on gb the xmas special may be a two parter again.

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Now this is a story all about how,
My life got flipped-turned upside down,
So I'll freeze you in time,
And you'll sit right there,
I'll tell you how I became the Doctor of just about everywhere,

In a barn on Gallifray, born and raised,
In the academy was where I spent most of my days.
Failing in class, and far from cool,
With only one friend in the entire school,
Just a couple of guys who were up to no good
We started making trouble in the neighbourhood,
But then I got bored and he got scared,
So I stole a type 40, and we're a hell of a pair,

I begged and pleaded with her day after day,
But she hurled me through the vortex and sent me anyway,
Seeking out trouble, war and cricket,
I turned my screwdriver on and say, "I might as well kick it"

We hopped from planet to planet, far and near,
Through all of time and space, never look in the mirror,
Bringing along companions, for some needed cheer,
Defeating each villian,
Before heading elsewhere,

But then there was a war, it sealed my fate,
A broken man after face number eight,
I head to my Tardis,
And I'm finally there,
The oncoming storm, with a life of despair.

>>80282195
>xmas special may be a two parter again.
So the first part is in christmas and part two in christmas too?

>>80282214
That ended on a surprisingly melancholy note.

>>80282227
Any day with an unexpected bonus Doctor Who is legally considered Christmas.

>>80281385
It was good. It almost made me feel like I was watching a proper show.

>>80282227
Jokes aside what they did with tennant was ep 1 aired on xmas day and the second ep aired Jan 1st

>>80282195
Great. Now I'm going to be heartbroken when this doesn't happen.

Well here we go again

>>80283300
This made me miss the Brig.
I forgot how cool he was in Web of Fear.

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>>80283360
That's from the Classic Series though and, as we all know, the Classic Series isn't canon. Pic to the left shows the only canon appearance of the Brigadier.

>>80282195
It'll be a standard rushed 60-minute xmas special. Only DT got a two-part regen ep, because he was the BBC's darling.

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>>80283573
Lord help me, I still don't know how I feel about Cyberbrig...

Why are the horror episodes the best?

>>80283573
Fucking delete this.

>>80283624
You still don't know how you feel about the Brigadier being an undead flying Cyberman?

>>80283687
Because Doctor Who is wasted on children.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk-P-MghoiU

What do you guys think of TheGarostudio's tribute vids?

>>80283707
I mean that should be a compelling enough argument against it, right?
But he ends up saving the day in the Doctor's self-proclaimed "Darkest hour". It's really well done and emotional as hell with the salute and all. It's a mansion built on a foundation of stupidity.

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>>80283809
>Garostudio

>>80283809
>tribute vids
This is a SFW thread. Keep that shit away from here.

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>>80283809
Sometimes they make for better trailers than the ones made by the Beeb.

>>80283858

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>the end of time was too long and could have easily been a single episode
>time of the doctor was too rushed and should have been a two parter

>>80284119
it's true

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What is he looking at?

Which companion actors will die this year?

>>80284390
John Barrowmans bumhole

>>80284407
Ian
Jamie
Jo

>>80282195
>>80283587
I didn't think of that. If I was Moffat, I'd be pissed if the BBC didn't give me a two-parter like they did for RTD. I'm not a fan of Moffat, but he deserves to be able to end with a bang like that.

>>80284119
Time of the Doctor was shit, why would you want to see more

>>80281930
it's lookin pretty SHEEP

That thing in the river loves like a lovecraftian squid or whale not a serpent.

>>80284640
>loves like a lovecraftian squid

no hentai pls

SERIES 9 SOUNDTRACK WHEN????

>>80284990
In 4 and a half billion years
We're nearly there /who/ :^)

A wasp just flew right past my hand. It was like it materialized out of nothing.

I like Missy's new hair

wonder if she'll regen with Capaldi so chibnall can also have his "oh shit is the mastah" moment.

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>>80285111
>wasps in the house

Holy fuck, that trailer looks fun for the first time ever. I hope we don't get a "abloo abloo" sad regeneration scene. I just want Bill to be weirded out by him changing. We just need casual shit like how Brigadier said "Here we go again." when 3rd changed.

Girl who Died is fun-romp-kino

>>80285236
>We just need casual shit like how Brigadier said "Here we go again." when 3rd changed.
That regen was emotional as fuck though. They thought the Doctor was actually going to die for a minute.

Bill looks less obnoxious than Clara and Amy so far.

>>80285201
I'm in a rural area. There's several nests. It's winter, so they're mostly dormant.

But their wasp queen just passed by. If I had been quick, I could have killed it.

I don't think it'll come back. At least for now...

>>80285298

Yeah, it was pretty emotional but I liked how they handled it realistically. I never liked when things get overboard.

>>80285298
Yes and then they moved the fuck on when it was over.

>>80284990
If we get Series 10 soundtrack before Series 9's, I will laugh.

>>80285600
It will be a S9-10 combined soundtrack that only has 10 pieces from each
It won't have the heaven sent music

>>80285747
>It won't have the heaven sent music
Fucking delete this.

>>80286245
But that has the sounds from the episode in it.

>>80286307
;_;
False hope.

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would it have been possible for a time lord to impregnate a human?

>>80285236
I'd like to see the big emotional post-regen "Waaah! You're not my Doctor" scene get postponed because of the Doctor's regen trauma—and then, when we get there, there is no big emotional scene at all, just something like this:

>Bill: Is that all over with?
>13: Yes.
>Bill: My turn to freak out now?
>13: If you must.
>Bill: Thanks. But actually… I'm fine.
>13: Really?
>Bill: You're not my Doctor, but you're still the Doctor, right? You're still a mad alien who runs around time and space having adventures, and you still need an assistant and a friend, yeah?
>13: Absolutely.
>Bill: Then let's go.

Remember when female time lords were able to choose the form they regenerated into?
How does that work now that time lords are canon genderfluid?

>>80286434
Sure, why not? Time Lords show up as "human +" on future human biomorphic scanners, Time Lord antibodies work in human blood, why shouldn't Time Lord sperm work on human eggs?

The only time it's come up on TV is the Doctor saying he's half-human on his mother's side, which seems like a yes. I mean, even if it was just a ruse to trick the Master, the Master wouldn't have fallen for it if the idea were obviously impossible.

And in the novels—well, Marc Platt is the guy who invented the Curse of Pythia and the Looms because he hated the idea of Time Ladies having sex, and he also had Andred impregnate Leela with no problems.

>>80286434
Well yeah, as we all know the Doctor is half human on his mother's side.

>>80286651
>because he hated the idea of Time Ladies having sex

Honestly, they all seem like frigid bitches that find sex bothersome at best.

>>80286605
>Remember when female time lords were able to choose the form they regenerated into?
Is there any story that actually says that's a female thing?

I mean, Romana was able to do that once. The Doctor was given a choice of bodies in The War Games. Every other regeneration we've seen, it just happened.

Some of the novels implied that all Time Lords can choose their body, but the Doctor never gets to because he's always regenerating under violent stress, which causes him to pick up his body unconsciously based on the nearby morphic fields. One of Cornell's novels even had another Time Lord regenerate into a half-Silurian form because of that.

>>80286651
>he also had Andred impregnate Leela
DELETE THIS.

>>80286762
The Rani, sure. And maybe RTD's Time Ladies.

But Rodan? Romana II? Moffat's "The Woman Who's the Doctor's Mum But I'm Not Going to Say That Explicitly Because Russell Didn't for His The Woman"?

>>80286829
Leela fucked Andred so hard she broke the Pythia's Curse, and she will never do that to you. Deal with it.

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>>80286605
Rearranging sex is probably the same difficulty as rearranging appearance.

>>80286434
>Improper partnering of the chromosomes
>different cell types
So much shit can go wrong and not the least the fact that humans have double helix DNA and the TL has quadruple helix DNA.

You do realise that antibodies are completely different from DNA right? And actually antibody transfer isn't perfect either. Humans can reject mouse antibodies although they'll work for quite some time and humans can also reject part mouse antibodies mostly human antibodies. And even purely human antibodies can trigger a severe immune reaction.

There are already issues with humans when stuff like Rhesus factor, when a TL baby begins generating TL proteins the mother will probably kill herself or the baby because she recognises it as foreign.

If the embryo survives as something other than a teratoma or a stilbirth or mole or something it will probably be sterile and might have a shit load of problems wrong with it.

Also looms are a thing.

>>80287054
>Also looms are a thing.
A thing that is not canon

>>80287026
NO. In the War Doctor audios he said she had no kids. IT'S NOT CANON REEE

>>80287054
>Also looms are a thing.
Sure, Lungbarrow is canon, therefore Looms are canon, and Time Lord Andred getting human Leela pregnant is also canon.

>not the least the fact that humans have double helix DNA and the TL has quadruple helix DNA
There's one EDA that says quadruple helix DNA. There's one EDA and at least one BF that says triple helix. And there are a few dozen stories that say double helix. In particular, the only time I can think of that it's come up on TV, examining River's double-helix DNA is how they determine her Time Lord identity.

But if you want to claim all those other stories are non-canon but Frontier Worlds is canon just to support your theory that something that happened in a different novel you consider canon was actually impossible, go for it.

>>80287026
It's funny how hard Big Finish shitted on Andred, turns out he was a massive unlikeable faggot that Leela didn't like at all, the children got decanonised and then Pandora killed him.

>>80287191
In the latest Doom Coalition Padrac explicitly says that River isn't a Time Lord at all, but human+.

>>80287224
not canon

>>80287200
YES. BASED BIG FINISH.

Canon bubbles:

A derivative of two-way canoning - every set of episodes that reference each other exist in its own separate "Canon Bubble" - a network of stories that are internally canon to each other. Stories are linked to each other via a chain caused by references. An entire, self-enclosed cluster of episodes linked together via references is what's referred to as a Canon Bubble.

Multiple isolated canon bubbles exist simultaneously - so one serial that is canon to another specific serial may not be canon to a different specific serial, if they exist in separate bubbles. If one serial makes references to stories from multiple different canon bubbles, these bubbles collide to form a larger bubble. In this event, all stories inside each of the different colliding bubbles are thereon considered canon to all other stories inside the new larger bubble.

>>80287243
Big Finish would have to have gotten Moffat's approval for a decision that big.

>>80287224
They also called her "human+" on TV. Then again, they also called an actual Time Lord "human+" twice in the EDA novels.

But at any rate, none of that changes the fact that the Doctor looked at her double helix and said she has Time Lord DNA. Unless you think the Doctor doesn't know that his people have quadruple helixes, even though the only time it's even been mentioned is the Doctor himself saying it in a novel?

>>80287289
>They also called her "human+" on TV
when was that?

>>80287289
>Then again, they also called an actual Time Lord "human+" twice in the EDA novels.
Sabbath is a faggot who likes to steal hearts.

>>80287289
Isn't River an incomplete Time Lord, since she only had a few regenerations compared to the full 12?

>>80287269
Screw canon bubbles. Things appear to be inconsistent because things are inconsistent. Why shouldn't they be? This is a universe with multiple time wars, and people like Faction Paradox and the Collector and the Council of Eight running around. Or, rather, it was, until the entire universe ended and got rebooted based on Amy's memories.

Meanwhile, stories explicitly refer to other stories while contradicting them, like Invasion of Time and Deadly Assassin.

>>80287289
If TLs aren't descended from the same common ancestors they aren't humans no matter what justification you have.

It's like saying that if you apply ionising radiation to a goldfish until it coincidentally develops human DNA due to random mutation it's part human.

>>80287395
>Isn't River an incomplete Time Lord, since she only had a few regenerations compared to the full 12?
Isn't that just because she "burned up" the rest of them to save the Doctor?

>>80287395
River isn't a Time Lord.
She's a human with regenerative capacity and more compatible DNA.

And she lost all her regens because she gave them all to the Doctor so now she can't regenerate at all like Big Finish's Narvin.

>>80287431
>If TLs aren't descended from the same common ancestors they aren't humans no matter what justification you have.
But they are. Rassilon deliberately seeded the universe with biodata so that any intelligent race that could be a threat to the Time Lords would be identical to (pre-Rassilon) Gallifreyans.

Or, in a different story, he manipulated the morphic field resonances of the universe to cause much the same effect.

Of course that doesn't make sense with real world biology, because in the real world, "biodata" is a thing that Robert Holmes made up, and "morphic fields" are bad pseudoscience that other writers borrowed. But in the Doctor Who universe, they're real things.

This is perfect timing since people are discussing River atm

In the recent trailer did anyone see any resemblance between Bill and River?

For some reason I can't unsee it

>>80284640
American here, how big is the Thames, cause that "serpent" looks fucking gigantic

>>80287462
*
Of course, it depends how you define Time Lord since it should apply to everyone who graduated from the Academy like Ace so it's more of a meritocracy than a genetic basis.

>>80287525
It's around 100m wide in the London area. Wider downstream, narrower upstream.

It may be a little smaller in Doctor Who, what with all the Skarasen poor and dead Pescatons and whatnot clogging it up.

>>80287200
Honestly, he didn't seem like that bad of a guy in the TV show. Leela staying with him did reek of the new management having no understanding of her character though. Or building up a relationship for that matter.

>>80287511
Are there a list of the other part TLs? Alex Campbell didn't display all the correct phenotypic features hence the TLs can't be humans, there is something fundamentally different about their genetic makeup.

I took it to apply to outward resemblance more along the lines of convegent evolution.

>>80287702
Andred just got bullied and at least one of the Big Finish writers was huge on Leela and Narvin getting together from what I read.

And the DC4 was clearly an attempt to make the conflicting Lungbarrow and Gallifrey timelines a little more compatible.

>>80287748
>Are there a list of the other part TLs?
I'll bet TARDIS Data Core has one, buried in the middle of their article on Time Lords or something.

But really, other than Alex (who was obviously invented to explicitly contradict Legacy of the Daleks), I think each time someone comes up with a "half Time Lord" they're trying to do something new and exciting.

The half-human Doctor, the whole idea was that his Eye of Harmony won't open for anyone else because he's the only half-human Time Lord. Leela's baby is obviously special. Jenny and Doctor-Donna and Handy and River even more so.

So, I don't think you're going to find any consistent set of rules by studying all the examples.

>>80287859
Lungbarrow was explicitly written to make the VNAs and the TV movie more compatible, and yet everyone always quotes it as the reason why the VNAs (or, in the 90s, the TV movie) can't be canon because they conflict.

So of course DC4 trying to make them more compatible is only going to lead to fans quoting it to prove one or the other can't be canon.

>>80287919
In regards to half human in my take on the canon, I just have it in my head that the Doctor is 100% TL with Ulysses as his dad and Penelope is his mum but both of them are TLs and the half human thing is the result of brainwashing. Otherwise I guess he could be 93% TL or something functionally high.

>>80287702
She got about as much buildup as Susan. Or Fitz and Trix. Or… really anyone besides Jo and Evelyn who ever left for love.

Well, I guess Clara, but she didn't really leave, so that doesn't count.

>>80288112
Do you not have Unnatural History in your canon?

Ulysses and Penelope Gate are one of his 17 contradictory histories. Having two Time Lord parents is another. Being Loomed is another. Being a human from a 49th century colony (from the pilot episode) is another. If you ask which one of them is "real", you're missing the point.

That being said, I don't mind the Cornell idea that Time Lords who regenerate under stress do so based on the morphic fields of whoever's around, and because the Doctor is always regenerating under stress and always around humans, by his Eighth incarnation he's about halfway to human.

>>80288200
It's been a really long time but I formed the opinion that they loomed him based on the Other's genetic template, and loomlings were children rather than adults.

>That being said, I don't mind the Cornell idea that Time Lords who regenerate under stress do so based on the morphic fields of whoever's around, and because the Doctor is always regenerating under stress and always around humans, by his Eighth incarnation he's about halfway to human.
I guess that's kinda like the I M Foreman thing but in my idea I'd just take it as - it used to happen, but doesn't anymore.

Reeeee the Clothing the Picts are wearing in the trailer is inaccurate! they look like shitty co splaying vikings not Celts.

>>80287520
>In the recent trailer did anyone see any resemblance between Bill and River?
A tiny bit when she wears her hair up, but not that much.

And in the spacesuit, maybe a little more, but they're in spacesuits, so that barely counts.

>>80288405
This, Doctor who gets the 19th century historicals very well. But anything medieval or ancient is pure shit. Like I know it's a wacky time travelling show but I can't take it seriously if they don't take ancient peoples seriously. Like the stereotypical horned helmeted Vikings in the girl who died.. Just cringe

So the reason because a lot of species in the universe resemble Time Lords - Rassilon sperm?

>>80288479
Wasn't there another theory other than morphic fields? The name of it escapes me.

>>80288390
>It's been a really long time but I formed the opinion that they loomed him based on the Other's genetic template
Better to leave it the way Platt wrote it—the Other tinkered with their loom then threw himself into it, and the family knew nothing about it, and that's why they're suspicious of the weird Doctor that resulted. If you make the family complicit in recreating the Other, most of the book doesn't work.

>I guess that's kinda like the I M Foreman thing
The Foreman thing is basically Loz taking Cornell's idea and fucking with it to make it even more interesting.

Of course Shadows of Avalon is Cornell not knowing Loz had done that and twisting his own idea in a different direction. But there's no reason both versions can't be true.

>>80288479
Yes. Daddy Rassilon is the origin of all humanoids.

>>80288521
Biodata seeding.

Then there's the preemptive genocide theory, where he just found all the potentially-threatening non-Gallifreyanoid species across all of time and space and killed them off before they existed.

And then there's the Web of Time theory: he just changed the way history/science/cause-and-effect works so none of the potentially threatening non-Gallifreyanoid races could evolve.

>>80288614
Yeah that's the one.

>>80288632
Personally, I think you need the genocide or indirect-genocide theory even if you've got the morphic resonance or biodata seeding theory, because otherwise you're missing out on Rassilon's biggest mistake being not recognizing that the Daleks actually were Gallifreyanoids.

>>80288670
I thought that the genocidal was a given.

>>80288614
>Biodata seeding.
Which is basically how you say "spraying sperm all over the universe" in Robert Holmes language.

Who wouldn't want timothy Dalton's sperm?

Okay are the special effects in the leaked trailer actually that feckin good this time round? or is it just whatever filter they're user to enhance the look? because they did that shit with series 0 and made it look amazing in the trailers and a lot of the CGI turned out to be shite when it aired.

>>80288144
No, Leela definitely got the worst of it. The others were built up throughout a whole serial, in Invasion of Time there's literally nothing before the final scene that suggests Leela and Andred would be romantically attracted to each other. It's such fucking bollocks.

>>80288697
Sure, it's a given that Rassilon did _some_ genocide; the question is whether it was just him retro-genociding the early threatening races, or omni-genociding all potential threats across time.

But meanwhile, I think you kind of need the morphic resonance thing to explain how you get concentration around resonance bands with very few races in between. Like the galaxy isn't full of Star Trek humans with bits on; the races that don't look exactly like Gallifreyans look about as different as the Zocci. (And not many races that are more different than that without going all the way to basically humanoid in shape but not much else, like Sontarans or Judoon or Ice Warriors. And not many races and the ones that aren't basically humanoid in shape but kind of close; after that band, the next ones down are weird jellyfish things or Jabba slugs.)

>>80288938
It can't have been omni because plenty of threats are still around and coming up because of the meddling of certain TLs.And he just couldn't get rid of the vampires and divergents.

>>80288925
Fitz & Trix, we literally just see them at the start of the book having become romantically attached off-screen over the course of whatever unseen adventures happened since the last book.

Of course Parkin wrote that as an intentional reference to both Susan and Leela, so I'm not sure it counts…

>>80289032
>Fitz didn't end up with Sam
Just.

I can't be the only one who thinks Capaldi looks younger in series 10 then he did in seires 8. Is the man reverse aging?

>>80289008
>It can't have been omni because plenty of threats are still around
Are any of them really threats to Time Lord supremacy?

Obviously he made a mistake not realizing that Gallifreyanoids could turn into Daleks, The People, the Enemy, etc. Or that his own race could spawn people like the Master or Grandfather Paradox. But that's one arrogant mistake that perfectly fits his character.

(Of course if you insist that the Enemy came from blobby space cell thingies rather than from Earth, then it's two separate mistakes, one of which doesn't fit his character very well, but nobody ever said Ancestor Cell was the best story in all of Who.)

>And he just couldn't get rid of the vampires and divergents.
Yeah, but those are two special exceptions specifically brought up and dealt with in Zagreus. And, since they were current-time threats, not potential future threats, they're exceptions whether it's omni or not, right?

Thank god Clara is gone, it's like a burden has been lifted and Capaldi can finally shine.

>>80289061
>Fitz didn't end up with Sam
Yeah, he had plenty of unlucky love stories over the rest of the novels, but at least he never got stuck with Sam. He just shagged the slightly cooler version of her and then she walked into a crack in time and disappeared before she could get attached.

>>80289150
Well Rassilon was clearly butthurt about the vampires since the entire bowship fuckery was to wipe them out.

And he kinda couldn't remove the Daleks either.

And he's so scared by the Divergents that he neesd to get Eight to wipe them out. Omni means everything.

And although the Deindum aren't too massive a threat (since Brax is just one Time Lord albeit a particularly resourceful one) they could have caused a pretty significant shit storm on the temporal front and the same goes for the time active races that Romana was harbouring relations with (and giving them TL education and to an extent technology).

Omni in my opinion means everything, if Rassilon was going for everything then, well, I guess he's defined by his exceptions after all.

And there were clearly splinter factions around to deal with threats like the CIA and Padrac's team.

I always thought that the Enemy was a future but not alt universe version of the TLs.

>Grandfather Paradox
FP never struck me as a huge threat anywhere except the Eighth Doctor timeline. I felt hugely sorry for them after Lolita consumed the entire Eleven Day Empire and the powers that Justine inherited were only helpful in very isolated situations.

>>80289140
Some of the scenes he looks younger than others.

I think it's mainly the look on his face. Capaldi is a good enough actor that when his character is angsting about being a grumpy old man as he did early in S8, he looks like an old man. In S10, it looks like whenever he's not panicky or determined, he's excited, so he doesn't look like an old man.

>>80283809
Honestly? I really, really like them, most of them are really quite good. A few of them are kinda shit but for the most part they're really well done, 400% better than almost all the other fan "tribute" style videos, both thematically and technically. Every few weeks or months when I'm in the mood I might check out the channel to see if there's new ones.

Only thing I hate is how often he uses that scene from The Next Doctor where Jackson or whatever his name is yells his cringey speech about how nobody thanks the Doctor or whatever. It's so tonally off from everything else and kinda embarrassing.

>>80283809
Fanvids are just mashes up of existing material, I don't really get the point of them seeing as you technically aren't creating anything new.

>>80289420
>And he kinda couldn't remove the Daleks either.
He didn't even try, because he didn't anticipate them as a threat, because the Kaleds are non-Time Lord Gallifreyanoids and therefore easily manageable, just like humans or Thals or any of the countless other races like them.

>And there were clearly splinter factions around to deal with threats like the CIA and Padrac's team.
But they came later, and I don't think he was anticipating them.

I may be remembering Lungbarrow wrong, but I think it even implies that if Rassilon had known that two of his bodyguards were going to create the CIA because they were worried he hadn't done enough to keep Gallifrey safe, he would have prevented it (whether by leaving more info about what he'd done so they didn't worry, or by having them killed before he died).

>I always thought that the Enemy was a future but not alt universe version of the TLs.
Well, Interference flat-out tells us that the Enemy will probably come from Earth, and the general fanon at the time was that humans become the future Time Lords (even if the VNAs never actually quite said so explicitly, the writers were always talking about it on RADW), so…

>FP never struck me as a huge threat anywhere except the Eighth Doctor timeline.
Well, they only become a threat to the Time Lords out of nowhere in The Ancestor Cell, so it's kind of hard to reconcile that with any other stories.

But the story about Grandfather Paradox being locked away in Shada as the most dangerous criminal in Time Lord history comes from the NAs, not the EDAs.

>>80289648
>paintings are just mashes up of existing material, I don't really get the point of them seeing as you technically aren't creating anything new.

>>80289917
Fanvids are you literally someone cutting and pasting bits of footage out of the actual show or reusing audio from the show itself. It can only show what has already been shown or what the producers created. It cannot create a new storyline or a new sequence of events outside the vocabulary already spoken by the actors.

Paintings are drawn by the artist and can contain entirely imaginary scenarios.

What the hell are people talking about when they say the scripts and episodes of the Capaldi Era are bad? I just finished rewatching Smith's run, smith was an excellent Doctor but at least 80 percent of his episodes were total garbage.

>>80285183
>wonder if she'll regen with Capaldi so chibnall can also have his "oh shit is the mastah" moment.
But if she has an on-screen regeneration, that would explicitly mean that Chibnall couldn't do a surprise Master reveal, we'd already know what they look like.

>>80289960
Capaldi >>>> Smith

>>80289648
Mashup songs technically aren't creating anything new either.

But even if you're not into Negativland, ECC/DJ Pantshead, Zappa's Joe's Garage, Orbital's Halcyon Love on Earth, etc., you can still tell that there's a big difference in creativity between them and the generic 95% of the stuff you hear at a mashup dance club.

>>80289981
>that would explicitly mean that Chibnall couldn't do a surprise Master reveal
Unless he has the new Master show up in disguise, the way Delgado did a couple times and Ainley almost every time.

>>80289648
The point of them is to slap a track on and feel and connect to that particular event or Doctor in the show. For example in that war Doctor video the point is it's a shorter version of who the war Doctor is the music portrays that he is actually a noble man trying to end a horrifying war and the scenes correlate with this and it gives ya the chills.

>>80289032
Wow. I haven't read the book, but making the departure of two long-running characters shitty on purpose just to point out that it was also shit when it was done 20 years ago doesn't sound like a very good idea.

>>80290018
It would be amazing if actors are finally digitisable.

>>80290105
It was the last EDA novel, written to an explicit brief to tie up every storyline and make way for the new series.

But that alone would be a bad excuse. The reason it works is… Actually, I can't explain it unless you read the book, except to say that the entire thing is a massive cheat around the brief he was given, and every single thing that happens in it sounds like a terrible idea if you only know the surface version of it out of context.

>>80290142
You mean digital actors with sufficient AI that you can just instruct them the way a director does a real actor, as opposed to just making CGI Tarkin slightly better and a lot cheaper?

It would still take a lot of creativity and talent to do anything interesting with them.

Well, until we also have AI writers and directors too… Then you can just feed in whatever raw ideas you have and get kino back.

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>>80290327
>Well, until we also have AI writers and directors too… Then you can just feed in whatever raw ideas you have and get kino back.
>tfw you feed the kino machine your ideas and it tells you they're shit and refuses to make them

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>>80290470
>when you input your image into the AI machine and it comes out with this

>>80290470
>tfw you feed the kino machine your ideas and it tells you they're shit and refuses to make them
We don't even need a kino machine for that.

>tfw you feed your ideas for the end of Trial of a Time Lord to Eric Saward and he tells you they're shit and refuses to make them

But don't worry, eventually we'll solve that problem by coming up with an AI you that can have your ideas better than you can.

I honestly don't think there will be a bad episode this series even the emoji ep, that gets points alone for the stunning bright visuals.

>>80290649
I'm currently riding a hype train to the GOAT boat but even I'm hesitant to be that optimistic. There's always one shit episode.

>>80290749
>There's always one shit episode.
Agreed. And it's not always one you can predict in advance. So I'm just going to go into each episode hyped, but expecting at least one of them to disappoint.

Although I suppose that might get stressful if we get through the first 11 without any duds.

>>80290648
>But don't worry, eventually we'll solve that problem by coming up with an AI you that can have your ideas better than you can.
Not until you build an AI me that can enjoy the resulting kino better than I can, so I can just go to sleep on the couch.

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I'm just glad that DW even has an EU. I've never been much of a Star Wars fag but I read the Thrawn Trilogy and the characters created by the author were much more interesting then anything the movies ever shat out.

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>>80290278
Other than Fitz and Trix I felt that book did a good job tying up the loose ends. I liked Marnal.

>>80290507
A tear, Sarah Jane?

>>80289960
I rewatched Series 6 recently and it was painful. It actually has a pretty promising start but the whole series derails after they do the Ganger Amy twist.

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>>80290902
Made the snot drip out of his nose and modified the teeth as well.

Listening to the BF podcast, and Nick Briggs is sad his son has no idea what Death to the Daleks was about.

>>80290902
There's something special about DW. Its "EU" isn't really an EU in the same sense as any other franchise (except for the NSA novels, which are, and that's why they suck).

Not because of the lack of a canon authority; that's only a tiny piece of it. It's because everything kicked off with a series of novels that were not controlled by the people making the "real" story, but were the real story, and they were designed to have their own value rather than to be disposable tie-in merch, and they weren't aimed at a mainstream kiddie market. Can you imagine something even remotely like Timewyrm: Revelation and the Cat's Cradle trilogy being books 4-7 in the Star Wars EU, or Star Trek, or anything else?

>Other than Fitz and Trix I felt that book did a good job tying up the loose ends.
But it really doesn't, and that's what's great about it.

Some of the loose ends, we find out in passing that they were tied up off-screen before the novel started. The rest, we get a hint about how they could be tied off, but the novel ends before getting to any of them. Nothing actually gets resolved at all.

Of course the Doctor will survive and probably beat the aliens in a straightforward Dying Days-ish way, Fitz and Trix will probably survive and leave to get married, K9 will probably successfully find Xing, she probably really will be Compassion, the Doctor probably will be able to make a deal with her to restore the Time Lords and Gallifrey just in time for the next Time War, that will probably restore the Master in some unexpected way, and so on. But none of that actually happens; the only thing that happens is a massive side-track that has almost no story beyond infodumps about the past and some massive retcons. And yet, it works, and it feels like the EDAs have come to a satisfying conclusion.

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Is that another Monk already?
How many are there already? Tv one, the one that was with 8th Doctor, Hound and the one from 12th Doctor book?

Also: Ben and Polly with One, nice.

alright dirty gay faggots

i've got it back on an old HDD in Las Vegas

but i'm currently in San Fagcisco

where can i watch the Doctor Who Years. Specifically, the 70s

if you don't know what i'm talking about delete /who/ and fuck off back to r.eddit

>>80291649
Stop drunkposting.

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stumbled on this comment

holy fucking kek.

>>80291649
http://archive.is/7eSsd

this has everything. enjoy anon.

>>80291668
h-how did you know

>>80291690
thx anon

*vomits*

Can anyone with Doom Coalition 4 post the hi-res covers? Would be much appreciated, but nbd if you don't want to :)

>>80290967
>>80291456
Since we're talking about S6 and Death to the Daleks at the same time, has anyone noticed that Terry Nation's flaws are almost the opposite of Moffat's?

When TerrNT fucks up, the whole middle seems like a bunch of unconnected and mostly pointless stuff that just happens, even if it somehow comes together to a decent ending.

When Moff fucks up, the middle seems like it's building and building and pointing toward something hugely cool, but then the story just falls off a cliff toward the end.

Maybe we could mash them together into some kind of hybrid.

Or just find Moffat his own Chris Boucher.

Or just let Moffat go back to sitcoms and Terry stay dead, I guess.

>>80291506
At the end I loved the bit with the Vore.

I think it's also to do with the fact that Who had been going for so long - each writer had so much more different to contribute with no central authority dictating what can and can't happen in the Wilderness years. The things that appear in Doctor Who's EU definitely wouldn't be allowed anywhere else.

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>>80291747
Sure thing, dumping.

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>>80291824

Thank you so much!!!

>>80291859
Gordon Ramsay?

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>>80291863
Quite the spitting image, Padrac.

>>80291539
The Monk looks sexy there. Speaking of Monks add another one to the list because i'm pretty sure it's going to be revealed David Suchet aka ''the landlord'' in series 10 is the Monk.

Oh shit that was not a meme Barrowman's natural hair is white now... wtf.

>>80291757
It's funny, I remember by the late 90s people were actually complaining that Peter Darvill-Evans and his successors weren't using their authority as range editor, and that's why we didn't get any real story arcs and why new companions (including Space Bitch Ace) always had a few rough books before they started working.

It's hard to believe anyone seriously thought we could have gotten books like Revelation and Time's Crucible, much less the stuff that came later, if someone had been asserting authority over the books. Or that it would be worth trading the five books we got for the alternate universe arc for different books that actually worked as an arc.

>>80291875
>>80291843
>doom coalition has weeping angels and river
what the fuck

>>80292126
I think if he keeps it white and figures out how he wants to style it, he might actually look better that way than he has as a 50-year-old trying to look 30.

Are they going to officially release that trailer today?

Has anyone read the fantasy series John Barrowman and his sister wrote?

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>>80292177
I mean that Star Wars book I read the author clearly wanted to tell more his story but you can definitely see what he can and can't tell. For the love of god, the author's original characters were superior to the original Star Wars characters and there were a lot of untouched opportunities for worldbuildings.

And the DW NSAs, I can see how badly they're constrained. It also doesn't help that they're targeted at YA and the prose has essentially gone down the toilet and I haven't seen a single unique story arc or particularly good authorial talent in that lot.

>>80292210
The Weeping Angel episode is actually fun as a fuck:

Spoilers: The Doctor VS Padrac/The Eleven VS the Weeping Angels VS Cardinal Ollistra/Veklin VS the Monk. It's a maddeningly fun stuck up of agendas.

The episode where River goes to Gallifrey is also pretty fun compared to that shit in the previous Doom Coalitions. I mean other than Absent Friends and The Red Lady there haven't been any particularly non shit stories in DC.

Matt Fitton and John Dorney do a good with DC 4, but BF definitely need to find more talent to write those boxsets, I feel like their writer pool is shrinking.

>>80292262
no. I would ask for source but I think this may lead to other stuff for me.

>>80292313
*stack up

>>80292236
Didn't they say Monday?

Even if they didn't, it would probably be smart to wait and get a weekend of free hype from the hardcore fans who saw it and liked it.

>>80292313
The writer of those SW books, Timothy Zahn, is pretty grounded on his relationship with the franchise, saying he had no qualms with what other Star Wars authors did with his characters even if he didn't completely agree with what they were doing with them. Granted, he seems like one of those authors who's much more comfortable playing around in an expanded universe than working on his own creator-owned work, like how Kate Orman hasn't written anything outside of Who.

>>80287646
>>80287525
265m wide at London Bridge.

>>80292313
The restrictions on Star Wars are (or at least were, in the pre-Holocron days) especially ridiculous.

According to an acquaintance of mine who wrote for them, there was a whole extra step after the range editor approved the pitch where it went to the continuity editor. He'd prepare a packet of all the background you need to know based on what settings you're using, which is cool, but it would also include instructions on background you _must_ reference, and a long list of areas you're not allowed to expand on without prior consultation.

The idea is that they don't want Joe "Second Novel" Schmoe to end up writing half the T-canon on the clans of Mandalore or whatever when they could have one of their more reliable writers do it. But that means Joe doesn't get to invent anything cool at all unless he deliberately sets it so far aside that nobody else is likely to be interested in following it up.

Timothy Zahn got a lot of leeway because he basically is the more reliable writer they're thinking of, but even he had to make sure not to expand C-Canon in a way that might conflict with the T-Canon plans, etc.

>>80292482
Actually, since starting to write for Star Wars, he's also gone back to some of his own old trilogies and expanded on them, but I don't think he's written anything completely new. I think he just likes working in a pre-established universe.

>>80292635
>According to an acquaintance of mine who wrote for them
I wish I had interesting friends or any friends at all

>>80292482
It really depends I guess. I feel like they have way more of a hierarchy on decisionmaking.

I guess not every writer's going to be like Miles Lawrence describing why he dislikes the Ancestor Cell, though.

>According to an acquaintance of mine who wrote for them, there was a whole extra step after the range editor approved the pitch where it went to the continuity editor. He'd prepare a packet of all the background you need to know based on what settings you're using, which is cool, but it would also include instructions on background you _must_ reference, and a long list of areas you're not allowed to expand on without prior consultation.

Sounds like a pretty painful process. I'd imagine that the NuWho would have a similar process - up until Doom Coalition 4 and River doing a whole bunch of things that I didn't believe the Moff would allow.

>>80292817
Actually, one of the SW writers Karen Traviss is kind of like Larry in terms of infamy, where she compared Star Wars fans who didn't like her books to the Taliban, got into spats with higher-ups so much that she was booted off the range, and is generally considered a controversial topic among that fandom. She never wrote anything as good as Alien Bodies though.

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Okay this was said by the spoiler hounds on gb in regards to the xmas special and whoever is locked behind the door by 12, something to do with the retro screwdriver in the trailer, WHICH DOCTOR DOES 12 HAVE LOCKED UP? did they finally get sean pertwee to play his dad?

>>80292937
>I can't go public with that info
Fuck off, he doesn't know shit.

Trailer today at 3:pm GMT, thank me later.

>>80293028
You mean the one that already leaked?

>>80292900
She sounds based

>>80292817
I'm kind of curious how the Big Finish NuWho process works. I suspect Moffat just doesn't want to pay attention to them at all, so he holds off each character until he's done what he wants with them, and then Nick and friends can go to town.

I assume under RTD, things were different, especially while Gary Russell was working as his continuity advisor. But then they didn't get many NuWho elements to play with during the RTD era anyway, did they…

>>80293040
The one I memed into leaking yes.

>>80292937
If Moffat writes a story where the Doctor has a classic series Doctor locked up in the basement, he'd officially be out of his fucking mind. It's the most ridiculous spoiler/theory I've ever heard for the show

Are Gallifrey Base retarded literally what reason would 12 have to lock himself in Bills Uni's basement? it's deffo something that is so dangerous is requires a time lord door to contain however.

>>80292900
I wonder if Who just attracts dramatic personalities like Gareth, Ian Levine, Miles Lawrence and John Barrowman.

And now, after reading Zahn's Thrawn work, I really wonder how Paul Cornell felt about having the entirety of Human Nature rewritten NuWho.

It's funny because it was one of my favourite NuWho episodes but reflecting back the only similarity between the TV epsiode and the book was the Doctor becoming John Smith, a tiny amount of the plot and Redfern, literally everyone else from Benny to Seven to the Aubertides got overwritten.

>>80293088
I seem to recall reading that one of the writers (Gatiss? Gaiman? Can't recall) had some kind of continuity advisor or something. So I do think they do get informed about the basic canon but the rest is up to them on how they write.

I havea feeling that RTD was much stricter on what BF could and couldn't do (maybe because they were afraid it would get cancelled) but I'm surprised how much juicy stuff they've been able to describe (War meeting Eight, River going to frigging Gallifrey.)

>>80292937
>did they finally get Sean Pertwee to play his dad?
I fucking hope so, Peter's favorite Doctor and villain in his last series would be GOAT

>>80292937
>What did the spoiler hound mean that 12 is keeping 13 a secret somewhere?
Watcher incoming?

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Incoming.

Well I guess the locked door could also be a reference to Class.

>>80293191
Because Doctor Who's a campy, over the top show, so it will appeal to campy, over the top people. And I guess for Cornell, it was his chance to prove to himself that he'd improved since writing Who novels in his twenties. Every writer cringes when they look at something they wrote years back, no matter how good it is.

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RTD on set today filming a plogical for series 10 :O
Announcment today at 3PM

>>80293457
Wtf IS A PLOGICAL?

>>80293419
>Every writer cringes when they look at something they wrote years back, no matter how good it is.
Can't disagree with that one!

>>80293457
What's a plogical?

>>80293251
>>80292937
>12 has found and captured 13
>keep them locked up
>trying to find out details about the regeneration so he can avoid it
the scene where Bill walks in on capaldi waterboarding 13 is brutal

>>80293493
>tfw Time Lords are the ultimate masochists

>>80293191
>I wonder if Who just attracts dramatic personalities like Gareth, Ian Levine, Miles Lawrence and John Barrowman.
Wilderness Who and NuWho were both mainly created by a group of people who flamed each other on Usenet and/or got into drunk arguments together at a bar. (RTD himself was only loosely part of that group, but almost all of his writers, including Moffat, were Tavern regulars.) And then suddenly RTD was hanging out with all the London media A-listers and showing them around Doctor Who.

Imagine if Doctor Who ended up mostly in charge of /who/. How long would it be before we had our own Gareth or Loz style public flameouts?

>I seem to recall reading that one of the writers (Gatiss? Gaiman? Can't recall) had some kind of continuity advisor or something.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure there is still a continuity advisor. But it's not Gary Russell. Besides his unhealthy obsession with Doctor Who continuity, he's also Nick's former partner/boss at Big Finish.

>>80292900
>got into spats with higher-ups
I suspect it took a lot less to get into spats with Lucasfilm higher-ups than with Peter Darvill-Evans or Stephen Cole. Pretty much every DW writer regularly told them to fuck off and called them idiots, and they just took it. I'm guessing that doesn't fly on most other ranges.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDx1ujCHq5k

Can we all agree the last few seconds of this song is one the goatest sounds Murray Gold has every produced.

Muh Rassilon.

>>80293543
Also, everyone involved in Doctor Who got into it as a 6-year-old, which has to affect what kind of people you're going to attract and what it's going to mean to them. (Although that part's also probably true for Star Wars.)

>>80293592
Does that mean I'm going to be a better Doctor Who writer because I started watching at 18?

>>80293623
If so, then since I started watching at 20, my fanfiction is obviously the best ever.

>>80293592
Hmm, I definitely got into Doctor Who before Star Wars, although I did have books 1-6 of SW on my kiddy shelf at quite a young age.

>>80293543
>Imagine if Doctor Who ended up mostly in charge of /who/. How long would it be before we had our own Gareth or Loz style public flameouts?
I'd make sure I went out in a flame of glory. We'd probably all kill each other first while getting stuck into recursive arguments about what canon is.

>>80293623
>Does that mean I'm going to be a better Doctor Who writer because I started watching at 18?
No, it means you're probably not going to be a Doctor Who writer at all. :P

But if you do, maybe you won't be as prone to overreacting about silly things as some of the existing writers.

>>80293679
>No, it means you're probably not going to be a Doctor Who writer at all. :P
I'd post my Capaldi crying face but it's already been posted in this thread. I'm reeeing tho

>>80293673
>I'd make sure I went out in a flame of glory.
Yeah, now that I think about it, /who/Who wouldn't be a bunch of people worried they might turn into Loz, it would be a bunch of people determined to turn into Loz.

But it would be an entertaining half-season before BBC Wales Broadcasting House burned to the ground and the handful of survivors were told the show was canceled.

>>80293736
But not before writing the best scripts ever, hopefully.

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>>80293477
>>80293487
> Current Year
>Not knowing what a plogical is

>>80293791
Is 8's Sonic. He's the one in the basement

>>80293759
An excerpt from the intro to About Time 14: The /who/ Years.

>The first drafts were undoubtedly some of the finest ever written for the show.

>Unfortunately, the editing process consisted mostly of someone crossing out every line and writing "Fuck this forced meme bullshit" and then the writer crossing that out and writing "Fuck offerino it's GOAT and you know it" and continuing in similar vein for another 300 replies.

>This probably explains why each episode as finally broadcast was just Gareth Roberts, possibly playing the Doctor although it's not entirely clear, standing in an undressed soundstage and shouting "REEEEEE!" for 45 minutes.

>In some ways, this was a brilliant callback to the Second Doctor's first year. But in most ways, it was just frankly stupid. I still watched each episode 17 times, of course, but I couldn't help feel that the magic of the show was gone.

>>80293948
We'd probably use all the budget up on the first episode.

Guys. I have a leak.
Purple Doctor will be in the basement canonising the fan films!

>>80288715
Don't you mean Gary Russell language? That idea only appears in Zagreus.

>>80294141
No Miles Lawrence fucking loves it but his idea of biodata also includes history.

>>80292313

Is it true DC4 ends on a dissapointing cliffhanger?

>>80294190
I liked the cliffhanger and anyways someone already posted the link to it earlier in this bread.

>>80293736
>RTD Who is declared non-canon, except for Ninth Doctor and Jack Harkness

>I try to add a Hayley Atwell Doctor into canon every few eps. She becomes non-canon in the very next ep. Every time

>Class characters are referenced in one ep.

>random references to cats

>Ian has cameos. So does Jamie.

>Cushing Doctor is confirmed

>Chumblies show up

>Twelve eithers loves Clara or hates her guts, depending which /who/ member wrote the episode

>One episode is literally called "Ode to Gareth"

>Eighth Doctor shows up for a few episodes

> one episode involves Twelve's 10 minute tirade where he declares canon a useless concept, that doesn't exist. Faction Paradox shows up

>There's a bottle episode where Twelve is forced to speak about a day during his time as the War Doctor. The Flashback is done in an animation style, with animation done by /who/ members. It is widely considered a complete failure.

>VNAs are confirmed canon. It isn't clear how this relates to the “canon doesn't exist” speech above.

>Paradigm Daleks return. This time, they're not crap

>Fitz and Jack have a sex scene

>Bill is revealed as the Rani. Nardole is revealed as the Watcher. Confusingly, the person in Twelve's basement is revealed as the actual Bill. And it's never explained why the Watcher hung out with the Doctor.

>Missy kills a Time Lord played by Charles Dance as part of her schemes. A few episodes later, she is killed, and regenerates into Charles Dance.

>The series ends with Twelve punching out a giant space dragon

>Twelve regenerates into Jenna Coleman Doctor

nice season of American Horror Story everyone.

>>80293191
>War meeting Eight, River going to frigging Gallifrey

Ooh where are these? Last War Doc audio I heard was vol 2. Haven't listened to any Doom Coalition yet, was waiting for all 4 vols to finish

>>80294236
>Ooh where are these?
War Doctor Volume 4 and Doom Coalition Volume 4 respectively.

>>80293191
>I wonder if Who just attracts dramatic personalities like Gareth, Ian Levine, Miles Lawrence and John Barrowman.
The first three have a lot in common, but Barrowman is a different kettle of fish. I doubt he actually gives a shit about Doctor Who beyond the fact that it lets him bask in adulation.

>War meeting Eight
Huh? When was this?

>>80294200

Oh I wasn't asking for a download, just curious about your opinion

>>80294305
>>80294236
Sorry I meant to say War meeting Leela.

>>80294392

Aw :( Hurt and McGann interacting would have been great.

>>80294216
>Capaldi regenerates into three McGanns, as in Caerdroia
>recurring watersports Clara references
>Phil Sandifer hired to write an episode, but storms out of the Cardiff studio after the first draft, yelling about "qlippothic fascism"

>>80294414
;_;

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>>80294375
My personal opinion is that it's the best they've done in a while.

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>>80294485

>better than DC3

>>80294500
Not Dark Eyes tier but quite enjoyable.

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>>80294511
>Dark Eyes tier

>>80293791
Black with the red ring = four's
Red with a silver ring = eight's.

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>>80294511
>Not Dark Eyes tier

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>>80294305
>War meeting Eight

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mydMkcitLB4

11:40

McGann: "I think, in time, Capaldi will be the best Doctor"

Fan: "Well I'm waiting"

>>80294141
>Don't you mean Gary Russell language? That idea only appears in Zagreus.
No, Holmes invented biodata, in The Deadly Assassin, although none of the TV episodes have much explanation about what it actually means.

I can't remember who first came up with "biodata = sperm" on RADW, but it's a pretty obvious joke.

Meanwhile, Lawrence Miles was obsessed with making something serious out of the idea. All the novels and audios that used biodata after Alien Bodies came are using ideas, including Zagreus, but Miles himself seems to think it's all there in the original Holmes.

Meanwhile, Gary Russell definitely knew he was making a sperm joke to some of his fans, but I'm not sure if he giggled about that (like Paul Cornell with Shadows of Avalon) or not.

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>>80295036

kek

>>80294418
>>Capaldi regenerates into three McGanns, as in Caerdroia
Except instead of Tigger McGann, Dark McGann, and Sensible McGann, it's SJW McGann, Alt-Right McGann, and >>>/pol/ McGann.

>>80295121
Underrated post.

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>>80294418
>Eruditorum Press is shitposting general
>Vox Day's PR firm burned down the server
>Doctor Who is on indefinite hiatus
>Peter Capaldi to be replaced by another straight cis white man
>Phil Sandifer photographed exchanging money with Michael Grade
>James Murphy's on-podcast breakdown jeopardizing production
>Pex Lives studios have been empty for months
>BBC Books no longer accepting submissions
>Sandifer confirmed that Titan Comics "wasn't interested" in his pitch for a Susan Foreman comic
>Jane Campbell has been in the hospital for two months, no contact with the media
>Josh Marsfelder currently under investigation following Garfield overanalysis
>Kit Power cut from the guest post roster
>Mark Gatiss and Eliezer Yudkowsky have "exciting announcement" for November
>Sandifer and Jill Buratto currently undergoing "trial separation"
>Jack Graham 14-minute Marxist tirade recorded in a Tescos checkout line
>Rumors swirling about Josh Marsfelder's "transition"
>Steven Moffat retirement announcement imminent
>Kevin Burns silently suffering from cancer of the larynx
>Anna Wiggins "hasn't come out of the basement in months" according to family members
>"TARDIS Eruditorum was a mistake. It's nothing but trash," says Sandifer on a Christmas Shabcast
>Holly Boson plagiarism accusations made by Chameleon Circuit
>Gareth Roberts recently hired by BBC to "political adviser" position
>Shana Wolstein has "critical sexual health announcement" to make
>Urn containing John Hurt's ashes has gone missing
>Daniel Harper releases 15 minute video about women's rights
>Jack Graham signs non-compete with Labour Party, will not write for Eruditorum Press for 5 years
>Larry Miles admitted for three-day "psychiatric observation" after being detained outside Sandifer's home with "a motley collection of bone implements"
>Ex-wife tell-all in the works, "Sandifer qlippothed and used me!"
>Peter Harness suffering from late-stage thorax cancer

It's over, Eruditorum Press, we're finished.

>>80295199
>Larry Miles admitted for three-day "psychiatric observation" after being detained outside Sandifer's home with "a motley collection of bone implements"
KEK

>>80295121
Also, in the middle of the regeneration, the show suddenly cuts away for two and a half minutes for this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv_glfYFFvg

… which kind of spoils the surprise of who the new Doctor is, and also scares away about 80% of the casual fans, but everyone still watching insists it was still worth it.

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>>80295231
I've never seen this before.

>>80295231
We should add The McGanns' album to the Faction Paradox mega.

>>80295231
MY SIDES ARE ABOUT TO EXPLODE WITH LAUGHTER WHAT THE SHIT IS THIS?

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>>80295595
Eddie Marsan would be a great Dr.

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Something's coming /who/. And I have the feeling we're going to be very busy:

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>>80295690
>>80295690