Now that the dust has setteled
which one will go down as Best Superhero movie of all time?
Logan was good but its not even the best xmen movie (X2)
TDK Wwill remain the gold standard with Spiderman 2 being a close 2nd
>>80200511
Logan will be forgotten 2 years from now. The Dark Knight is still remembered today.
Batman v Superman
>>80200511
Neither because Spider Man 1 & 2 are better.
And of course Man of Steel shits on Logan and TDK because it actually took an adult look at Superman. Go ahead and fight me marvel cock suckers
Logan was great as a closing act after 17 years of logan. The T turned X was fantastic. TDK was great as a stand alone film
>>80200605
>Spider Man 1
Impressive!
>>80200605
>In 2017 people are STILL falling for the TDK meme
Heath Ledger's performance was great, but the cinematography and directing were horried and such low level that those factors alone should necessarily exclude it from ever being discussed as a good movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=801sR_U1Xkw
TDK is on another league, it's not a fair comparision. Logan was fine but a 6.5/10 tops
>>80200677
>zero oscars
lmao
>>80200511
Logan was a solid movie but let's not be ridiculous.
>>80200620
The T?????
>>80200802
>muh technical oscar
Kek
TDK will be the only movie remembered after from the capeshit era once this garbage era ends.
>>80200967
>muh zero oscar
Kek
>>80200598
this
>>80200511
Logan. TDK is just a great performance in a decent Michael Mann wannabe movie
>>80200967
>muh not technical (or any other kind) oscar
lyl
>>80200605
>adult look at Superman
DUDE HE'S JESUS LMAO
Raimi's first two spiderman films are the best superkino ever made.
It anyway, wed be better off not have shit flinging matches about superhero movies since so few of them are actually good.
I don't know how people can go year in year out to see those hackneyed MCU movies. They're so boring at this stage I've forgotten how many of each hero there are and his many spin off shows.
Logan doesn't count because its not tied to the MCU and its actually good. Captain america one was decent, so was ant man the rest are... Whatever.
>>80200987
The movie was shit. I can tell people who still like it in 2017 were edgy autists when it came out, and identified with the joker cause "wow he's so dark and nihilistic just like me 10/10".
>>80200511
Not that pile of shit DC movie that's for sure
The one who won an oscar, obviously
>>80200511
>the best Marvel movie isn't made by Marvel Studios
>10 years
>Marvel still hasn't come close to TDK in terms of quality and cultural relevance
Are they even trying?
>>80201232
It's sad that X2 and Spiderman 2 are miles better than any current Marvel made movie
DoFP>>X1>Logan>>X2=First Class=Japan Wolvorin>>>>Rest
TDK 7/10
Logan 5/10
Adjusted by capeshit standards:
TDK 9/10
Logan 5/10
>>80201232
Not the first time
>>80200919
it's a cross
>>80200511
I need a webm of the first time xavier turns around in his chair. I couldnt help but laugh.
>>80201263
It's not fair though
Name one the Marvel directors that even comes close to Nolan
TDK has to be the most overrated film of all time
For superhero movies:
Logan>Spiderman 2>X-men 2>Iron Man 1>The Dark Knight
>>80200511
TDK, i loved also Logan but not having any clue what happens to the kids after the ending for some reason feels unfinished for me.
>>80201608
Branagh is ok, I guess
>>80201641
nah. you have shit taste.
after 2 months, no one is gonna remember logan
>Tfw the best Marvel movie was made byFox
>usual contrarian garbage itt
>>80200511
>the right has an oscar, and its not for make up
no contest
>>80201641
>look mom, I'm contrarian!
TDK is the best capeshit to date and looking at 2017 releases it seems it's going to be that way for yet another year
>>80200511
I'd say TDK is probably better, but Logan touched me more.
>>80201438
Blade 2 is better.
>>80201157
Projection. I always cared more about Batman and Harvey.
>>80200511
Logan needed a better villian, TDK is better.
>>80201912
No, it didn't. The movie was about Logan's introspection, Mr. Sinister, Omega Red, or whatever would have made it too comic booky.
>>80201711
>have to like and worship the new popular movie just because its new and popular
>>80201157
Calm down buddy, it's not our fault that all marvel movies are mediocre at best
>>80201761
As far as child actors go the only part that i hated was at the very end whenall the other kids line up and look at x23 and logan, the leader kid does grabs his arm and winces like a total faggot
I saw logan yesterday, so the dust is still very much all around me, but holy shit was it a good movie
why didn't the kidshelp with x24? I understand Donald was mean to them at the hospital, and they were getting their revenge, but they were going overboard while jackman was dying from 24 and 23 was struggling.. join forces on that guy ffs.. donald is already ded
watchmen > bvs > man of steel > the dark knight
>>80200511
Anything made by Synder.
On the marvel side, Spiderman trilogy.
>>80201746
these Nolan fanboys are unbearable
batman is the shittiest superhero ever created and anyone who likes it deserves to die
>>80201974
But I don't like marvel movies either
>>80202023
The other kids were hit and miss but Daphne was fantastic.
Not even a pedofag either.
>>80201966
>have to dislike and undermine a movie because it's new and popular
Hypocrite
lego batman > tdk
>>80200686
I knew before opening the link it would be that video.
Jesus Christ lad, take your fedora off once in a while.
>>80200511
that place is taken by M.Night's movies
>>80200511
If you seriously thought Logan was good then please erase yourself from existence
>>80202122
>>80202163
>have to like and worship the new popular movie just because its new and popular
faggot
TDK is a good movie and Logan was not, what kind of question is this?
>>80202213
>literally repeating yourself since you got nothing better to say
contrarian hypocrite
Logan was way better, but The Dark Knight has a dead actor in an iconic role.
>>80202195
>being a contrarian
>>80200562
got Spiderman 2 and TDK mixed up there a bit buddy.
Threadly reminder that anyone choosing Logan over TDK is a shill. No one can be that objectively wrong if not on purpose
>>80200999
>>80201743
yet ...since it was aired after the oscars
>>80202245
im only repeating myself because im right and you haven't proved me wrong.
>>80202273
Dislike a movie doesn't make one a contrarian. Jesus fucking Christ, contrarian is the new cuck apparently for /tv/ insults
>>80201694
i dont really care about what people remember
in terms of quality film Logan is leagues ahead of the dark knight
>>80202289
>millionaire in a horned rubbersuit who cries for daddy is good
>>80202345
>popular new movie comes out
>loved by critics
>loved audiences
>making big bucks
>some anon comes out and tells you you should kys if you liked it
But yeah, you're not a contrarian.
>>80202323
I did though. I called you out on being a hypocritical contrarian which means that your statement means nothing.
>>80202368
What does that even mean
>one genre defining movie with some of the most iconic perfomance of its decade
>turned the Joker into a normie symbol, a true cultural juggernaut
>discussed to this day, 10 years later
>the other is a generic capeshit with only a r-rated gimmick going on for it
>it's still on theaters and it's already forgotten
Mmmm I'm picking TDK
>>80202383
>everyone else likes it therefore I just like it too.
Dear god man, are you this much of an unthinking retard?
>>80202422
I liked it because it was good. You're a contrarian because you didn't give a single reason why this movie is bad.
>>80202370
Not only good but better than Logan by at least 2.5 points on a scale of 10
>>80202416
>R-rated
>no costumes
>no big super-villain
>no quips
>bad guys win
>generic capeshit
Fuck off, retard.
>>80202389
Oh you called me a two word insult. Totally proved me wrong.
>>80202450
Give me a single reason why logan is better than TDK.
>>80202496
>Give me a single reason why logan is better than TDK.
The protagonist isn't so bland as to be overshadowed by both the villains and the supporting cast.
>>80202490
You heard me. Also
>>no quips
kek
>>80202450
And you didn't give a reason it was good either.
The movie is boring. The action sequences are missing tension because Logan can just fucking regenerate. There are massive lapses of internal logic (why did the villain think a team of guys with guns could stop super humans?), the main villain steps out of the movie so a mad scientist can be introduced only to die 25 minutes later.
Besides all that, the director doesn't have a vision with this movie. There is no underlying message to the movie. It's mindless action.
Let me guess, in a contrarian for having these opinions too
>>80202490
>no quips
*spits on the ground*
>>80202496
I didn't say it was better than TDK, I said it was good.
Learn to read, retard.
>goes through plan to kill dent/batman and nearly kills both but gets caught by gordon with shotgun after having a gang and lots of weapons, taking down helicopters etc
>THE JOKER ACTUALLY WANTED TO BE CAPTURED
capeshit
>>80202490
>>no quips
Shills get the fuck out of my board last warning
>>80202256
>dead actor in an iconic role
Are you an autist? Why do you care if an actor an heroed himself in post-production?
>>80202537
> The action sequences are missing tension because Logan can just fucking regenerate
Did you even watch the film you absolute mong? Logan's healing factor going to shit is one of the main plot points of the entire film.
>>80202554
That's the subject of the thread, retard.
>>80202535
>>80202550
You don't know what a quip is.
>>80202537
>The action sequences are missing tension because Logan can just fucking regenerate
I guess you missed the plot point about Logan's HF being fucked up.
>why did the villain think a team of guys with guns could stop super humans
Because what other option do they have, you utter fucking moron? And they had X-24. Hardly just a guy with a gun.
>the main villain steps out of the movie
There is no main villain, they're all props for the Xavier/Logan/Laura relationship to develop.
>There is no underlying message to the movie
I guess you left before Charles' speech about family and love, huh?
>>80202609
he still heals until the very fucking end of the movie.
Fucking Christ, this thread is proof that capeshit movies need their own board. I'm tired of autists trying to elevate violent fantasies for fanboys and teenagers to pillars of cinema. It's a dumb superhero movie that'll be forgotten in a year
>>80202529
>The protagonist isn't so bland as to be overshadowed by both the villains and the supporting cast.
That didnt happen in logan because everyone except logan and the little girl were bland and boring as shit.
>>80200511
TDK hands down. Logan is great but not even close.
>>80202620
So? I can choose one over the other while still considering the latter a good movie.
You illiterate cuck.
Logan is not only not as good as TDK but pretty bad on itself too
>>80202654
im a fan
by the way
>>80202672
>he still heals until the very fucking end of the movie.
No, he really doesn't. Did you miss the line RIGHT AT THE START from Caliban who says he notices his fresh wounds that haven't healed for days and the constant pus coming from his infected claw holes?
If you want to shit on a film at least fucking watch it properly you gimp.
>>80201954
>a comic book movie would have been to comic booky
>that is somehow a bad thing
Are you retarded? TDK managed to retain classic comic book elements and still managed to not feel cheesy or childish. It can be done. Dumb nigger.
>>80202689
>Charles was bland
Man of Steel is unironically my favorite superhero movie
>>80201118
>best superkino ever made.
You can't be serious, Spiderman is not rightfully portrayed in those movies, Peter Parker was great, but Spiderman was not.
>>80202739
It would've mattered if Jose fresh wounds took away from his ability, but he's still an unstoppable murder machine.
Just fucking die. I honestly hope you don't live to see tomorrow.
>>80202748
TDK was even less of a comic book movie than Logan. At least Logan had shit like cyborgs and clones.
Dark Knight is so much better that's not even fair to compare them. Logan was pretty solid but come on
>>80202766
That doesn't matter. Arnold's Conan is not very faithful to the source but it's still GOAT.
Are people just memeing here?
There was nothing special about Logal. In particular, the bad guys was
- generic bad soldier without character
- generic bad doctor
- soules clone
And then Doctor X playing an old man.
The girl was likable.
But there was 0% creative in this movie.
No?
And it was 2.5h long!
All side characters die quickly, except kids of course.
I'm not hating, I didn't despise it, but why would one like the movie over others?
>>80202711
Than get out of this thread if you're just going to say both are good and let us autists argue.
>>80202779
>He's still an unstoppable murder machine
>Gets completely fucked by X-24 within seconds and has to be saved by black man in a car
>>80202581
the only reason it did so well was because he killed himself so normies got on board with it
>>80202751
Man of Steel is unironically great
>>80201315
Nah famalam, IM1, CapWS and GotG are as good as Spiderman 2, but all of them are still worse than TDK or X2
>>80202490
>bad guys wins
No, they died and the kids fled, the good guys won
>>80200562
>TDK will remain the gold standard
TDK is mediocre, how the fuck is it supposed to be the gold standard.
How have you still not let go of Ledger's death?
>>80202829
Have fun, then.
>>80202851
>Logan dies
>Charles dies
>all the X-men are dead
>the entire mutant race has been genocided
>the good guys won though
>>80201317
Logan = FC = X2 > DoFP > X1 > Apoc > TW > X3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XMOW
>>80200620
>the T
Kek, although if you genuinely didnt know it was a cross. Its a good sign that we are moving away from religion
>>80201608
Literally every single one.
Nolan has one good movie, Insomnia.
The rest are mediocre to bad to garbage.
>>80202897
So do you consider that the bad guys won because of events that happened before the start of the film? Charles and Logan died, but in the process of saving the kid. They won
>>80202968
>Insomnia.
You mean Memento or Prestige, right?
The Dark Knight is the superior film.
Bats didn't need to have the writers kill off the entire X-Men and craft a desolate depressing world in order to deliver a competent film.
>>80202039
Because the X-24 could have easily destroyed them.
They're kids, they were afraid of X-24 and scared if they intervened it would hinder Wolverine and turn X-24 on them.
>>80203000
They didn't win, and if they did it's a pyrrhic victory. The corp lost some men, but their plan ultimately worked even if they lost the kids.
>>80201042
And Logan is a The Last of Us ripoff. Your point?
>>80203004
Prestige is pretty bad, tbqh.
Memento is Gimmick: the movie.
>>80203057
The father figure lost little girl trope has been going since forever you gamefuck.
>>80203057
>Logan is a The Last of Us ripoff because it features an older man on a journey with a younger girl, never mind literally everything else being completely different
Why did they want to capture the kids if they were just going to kill them anyway?
They took Caliban's material, and they moved on to the X-24 project and said that one was a failure.
Why didn't they use tranqs or anything, or stun grenades, or any kind of tactics except run at them but don't shoot.
>>80202826
>except kids of courseblack kid died
>>80203038
I mean when they weren't paying attention to him at all.. like the nature girl could do the pine thing to him and then crush him with trees and the car
insecure snyderfags and raimifags are shitting up the thread
>>80202968
Imagine being this contrarian, to defend some generic mediocre flick like Logan
>>80203053
Logan and Charles were already dying, at least Logan died helping the kids
>their plan ultimately worked
How?
>>80203119
Because if they can capture them and carry on experimenting on them it's a bonus. They said dead or alive so if capture failed they would just go straight up murder in order to erase their mistakes.
>>80203144
>to defend some generic mediocre flick like Logan
I didn't, though.
Unless you're retarded and think every single movie with Marvel characters is a Marvel Studios film.
>>80203053
>their plan ultimately worked
>the implied mastermind behind the entire operation was killed, with their most advanced clone prototype destroyed along with most of their forces
>>80201761
Show me on this doll where did it touch you?
I was moved by and actually gave a shit about most of the characters in Logan. TDK was suspenseful and interesting enough, but it didn't stay on my mind like Logan did after watching it.
>>80202370
Why do people always resort to this argument? I think he doesnt even fucking metions his parents after Batman Begins...
>>80203554
Because he's here paid to shill Logan and the movie was nothing to brag about, so he talks shit about the competition. Typical marvel shill behavior, you'll get used to it
>>80203663
>Typical marvel shill behavior
>Fox is Marvel
I wonder how it would feel like to be as stupid as you are.
>>80200802
>caring about some cuck club's opinions
>>80202751
I honestly don't know why people hate it so much. i hate superman. But I love how that movie. Gave people what they wanted. A Superman that actulaly does shit. And set him in real world where there is real concequences. I mean what did people expect to happen when 2 kryptonians fight???
Grow some fucking balls
First Class> Logan=Dofp=X2
Dark knight
Spider-Man 2
Captain America 2
Xmen FC
Batman Begins
are the top 5 cape kinos
>>80200511
I might have said Logan but that thread last night opened my eyes to how bad it was. Not that I think its a BAD movie but it ends up having a ton of flaws the more you think of it.
>overuse of fuck
>overuse of killing people
>Logan was never shown as growing fond of X-23 until way too late in the movie and by that time it was getting really boring and tiresome
>Logan was only one emotion which was angry rageful prick, got somewhat boring
>No good female character not even the kid
>A lot of things left to up in the air, the open, or left out
>Still has no fucking villain like every Marvel movie
>Black family dies hating Logan because true heroism is so pre-Obama, Logan was spared being shot but not deserving it
I am probably being way too hard on Logan but I don't know I just felt more satisfied with TDK in the end although I felt more emotion with Logan and more I think of it Logan could have been scripted better. TDK has easily the best overall script of any superhero movie.
>>80206301
>>Logan was only one emotion which was angry rageful prick, got somewhat boring
Not really, he showed love for Professor X and when Prof died he was actually crying. Yes he goes back to rage mode afterwards, but that's the point of Wolverine. He can't deal with any other emotion except anger because it's easy for him to express.
>>80206301
He obviously cared for Caliban and Charles.
>>80201157
Projecterino
>>80200511
The Dark Knight Rises
TDK > Batman Begins > Watchmen > Logan
Objectively speaking
Does LOGAN have a place scene?
>>80200562
Will you shut the FUCK up about spiderman 2 ? It's not even good.
Did anyone else dislike the other mutant kids in Logan?
They didn't add anything to the movie and did fuck all for the most part until the very end despite being trained to fight???
How did they even survive to get to the meetup point when Logan and co. had to go through so much shit?
>>80200511
TDK will never be beaten
Logan = The Dark Knight > Spider Man 2 > Dark Knight Rises
>>80206681
>How did they even survive to get to the meetup point when Logan and co. had to go through so much shit?
Other nurses were helping them originally like the one that was with Laura. I didn't mind them I guess, the fat black kid was funny and the others were barely in it so I didn't have any opinion on them either way. The main kid though really got on my nerves, he seemed smug as fuck.
Logan because Batman Begins was always better than TDK which I don't know why Americans love so much.
A good movie about a great man > flying technology stuff
Logan feels like a universal archtypal story about a darkened man finding light. TDK is very modern in its sensibilities and won't have the same meaning in 50 years. Logan, though, will not lose a single bit as its use of sci-fi and capeshit equals use of magic explanations in the background of long living fairy tales and epics.
>>80205406
Honestly I'd switch Cap 2 for IM1, but that's my opinion, still both are great and the only truly good Marvel movies so far.
Nolan Batman at least has a consistent story. Fox completely fucked up X-Men. Logan is good only as a standalone movie. It makes little sense in the context of the other movies especially DOFP.
>>80201526
Yeah. I know it's a fucking cross. That guy called it a "T".
the mask of zorro > anything else
bow down to the superhero that inspired batman
>>80202961
>>80207135
>Fox completely fucked up X-Men.
Even in comics, X-Men has horrible continuity problems, they have like 51590 different timelines ("normal" timeline, Apocalypse timeline, Cable timeline, Hope Summers timeline, etc....), right now we have a teenager Cyclops, teen Jean Grey (Who might not be in fact the real Jean Grey) and a teenager gay Iceman along with an Old dead Wolverine, Old Magneto and SW/Quicksilver who are no longer kids of Magneto.
>Logan is good only as a standalone movie. It makes little sense in the context of the other movies especially DOFP.
How doesn't make sense? DoFP happened in 2025, kids shown in DoFP last scene were 14-15 years, Logan happens during 2029, so it's natural the last mutants were born 20 years ago, thus last "natural born mutants" will have around 20 years.
>>80207203
Anon, I think that's an Arrested development joke
>>80201118
What really makes the Spider-Man films the greatest of the genre is Raimi's dark, chilling, uncompromised vision and his stellar commentary on race and sexuality.