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Reminder that we are entering a new golden age

>>80142173
If that Cyberman is about to fly. Then I'm about to "DELETE" Moffat. Just like they deleted Gareth

>>80142352
>Cyberman
Don't assume xer gender.

>>80142352
hopefully just being beamed up

but i bet it fucking flies ;_;

What the hell was the midnight announcement?

>>80142419
It was great. They announced that there was never an announcement. It didn't trend on Twitter or anything.

>>80142419
there wasnt one

some idiot on here just trolling

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'Upgrade in progress'.

>>80142499
Anyone read the story where Zoe gets fucked by a Cyberman? A little hatch opens an a penis comes out.

>>80142375
Then why is it looking up at the sky?

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>>80142539
>Zoe gets fucked by a cyberman
>A little hatch opens and a penis comes out

>>80142541
because amy just flew overhead wearing a skirt

>>80142541
>Then why is it looking up at the sky?
Checking for birds, planes, or superheroes to make sure its flight path is clear?

>>80142455
Are you saying that someone intentionally spread completely false information with the sole purpose of making people upset when they chose to believe it and eventually had their hopes dashed? Why the fuck would anyone do something so cruel?

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>>80142539

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Any one else having trouble with this archive? I think it might have been deleted.

https://archive.is/7eSsd

If so, can someone give me a link to a working one?

>>80142736
http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/

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>>80142539
Actually no.

topknots

top notch

best finale ever confirmed

>>80142693
What happened to Moffat's other son? Was he erased?

Do you think Girly Letters kicks her kids in the face when they want attention and shes trying to type on Twitter?

>>80142798
thanks best trip-user

>>80142591
>>80142656
>>80142693
>>80142801
Oh wow okay then. Here it is https://www.literotica.com/s/doctor-who-and-the-sex-ray

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>>80142801
>another roganbro on /who/
>>80142840
No problem. hadnt even heard of the one you were using.

>>80142841
Slowpoke?

Dubs confirm finale will be shit.

>>80142798
>>80142840
wait sorry what I meant was an archive of classic episdoes

Dubs confirm Mondasian cybermen kill all the cybusmen

>>80142986
I hope so.

>>80142952
Oh sorry, best I got primewire ag/watch-5135-Doctor-Who-1963-online-free
some links are undoubtedly broken, you can also look on daily motion.

I bet anything all the different cybermen designs will trash talk each other, echoing the fans arguing on which Cyberman design is better.

>>80142547
Comedy gold

>>80143011
dubs confirmed!.

>>80142952
https://archive.is/7eSsd

you're welcome

Dubs confirm ep. 11 will be GOAT and ep. 12 will be shit like they usually are.

>>80143091
Don't even need dubs to confirm this

>>80143091
dubs confirm 12 will regenerate in episode 12 in a shocking twist

>>80143078
>https://archive.is/7eSsd

That's the same one anon just asked about:

>>80142736
>Any one else having trouble with this archive? I think it might have been deleted.
>https://archive.is/7eSsd

So I doubt he's going to thank you for telling him about it.

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>>80142801
>well you see...
>*leans into mic*
>the cybermen are a terrifying enemy
>i was reading they were originally humanoids who were obsessed with progress, eventually adding so much technology to their bodies they lost their humanity and because cold
>we gotta be careful man, I feel like we're headed that way soon
>*inhales*
>anyone hear about the story where Zoe gets fucked by a cyberman?
>fucking crazy man those things will fucking rape you
>*leans into mic*
>I heard a little hatch opens up and a penis comes out
>jamie pull that up

Right guys time to rewatch series 8 and 9 in preparation.

So now that it's basically confirmed that the Chumblies and Menoptra+Zarbi are coming back in the Xmas episode. What will cause 12 to regenerate?

>>80143151
well it still works

>>80143194
River Song.

the equivalent of when Moffat retcons good doctor who history: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j64GxOT4gs8

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>>80143151
>>80143078
>>80143017
it's working for me again

sorry for the trouble, here's a McCoy

>>80143180
kek

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>>80143180
Again, again, more!!! in a joe rogan thread of course!!

Dubs confirm CyberBrig returns.

>>80143239
this is the Series 10 finale once Murray Gold's finished with it

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>>80143190
>rewatching series 9

>>80143239
Who knew history's most bloody conflict could be so comfy?

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>>80143180

>>80143194
He's fighting to stop the Monk, who's teamed up with the Animus and the Axons to fend off a Drashig invasion, when he gets unexpectedly shot in the back by a passing Quark.
Screenshot this.

>>80143239
Not gonna lie, I miss those times...

whew lads, tonight has been GOAT

>>80143533
We had some keks, spoilers, first it went up then it went down and then it ended with Cybermen nailing Polly.

I will always remember when the Doctor wasn't me.

Where can I watch Doctor Who in good quality? putlocker is down.

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H Y P E:

https://twitter.com/AdamOrford1/status/838882217199812609

(This is going to look ridiculous)

>>80143609
>https://twitter.com/AdamOrford1/status/838882217199812609
3 other people there confirmed there were no revenge cybermen on location

>>80143609
This was Orford baiting /who/

lying cunt https://twitter.com/AdamOrford1/status/838900618261581824

>>80143603
buy the DVDs

>>80143868
I want to watch right now. I have them on DVD but my blu ray broke so.

do the dswr people have jobs?

gosh, dr who got a bit grim #dwsr

https://twitter.com/ahmed_shukhi/status/838914578784350211

What if these Mondasians are of the Mondas that's twinned with Pete's World?

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>>80142306
Reminder that Moffat perfectly distilled everything creepy and good about the Tenth Planet Cybermen and then inserted it into a flying robot shitfest

>>80143921
THE TWIN TWIN PLANET DILEMMA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

the answer is yes

>>80143929
Steven Moffat has a chemical imbalance.

>>80143967
response to >>80143915

JUST THIS ONCE ROSE. JUST THIS ONCE. MOFFAT WHO ISN'T SHIT!

>>80144004
I wouldn't be so sure...

>yfw this is Moffat's Journey's end but with Nardole instead of Jack.

how dumb are these dwsr people

>hears "return to the hospital" said during filming
>decides it must therefore be the fucking title

https://twitter.com/WhovianLife/status/838915925214658561

>>80144083
ep11: Doctor of the Cybermen
ep12: The Doctor's Doctor
ep13: Doctor of the Doctor

>>80144181
if it isnt called Master of the Cybermen then why live??

>>80144181
Rocket (Cyber) Men

>>80144366
Attack of the Flybermen

>>80144413
The Rocketeer.

>>80144436
Fly Me to the Moondas

>>80144219
Brilliant.

>>80144449
Knights in shining Armour.

Tbh in retrospect Missy is starting to grow on me. Gomez really makes you believe shes a dude messing around in a womans body.

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>>80144219
nice addition

Holy shit, /who/ is moving fast today.

>>80144524
You could say we are rocketing through threads.

>>80144576
Rocketing through on our leg jets?

>>80144902
Dubs confirm Martha will be back in the finale.

>inb4 we get to see 12's version of Mr. Clever

>>80144519
Nice to see classic Who actors still show some love to NuWho.

>>80145253
Can't be any worse than Matt Smith's.

I kinda liked nightmare in silver. Kinda wish we could've seen the original tho

>>80145575
What did you like about it? I hated it. The Cybermen were awful, the Cyberplanner was also shit and those kids were so annoying.

>>80145575
I think it was better than The Next Doctor and Army of Ghosts. Doesn't really compare to Age of Steel or Closing Time. Dark Water was actually pretty decent too.

>>80145762
Dark Water is the best TV Cyberman story since Earthshock
Lets hope Moff surpasses yet again

>>80144513
Yes. That was always at least half the appeal of her. She clearly studied Delgado, Ainley, and Simm to prepare for playing Missy.

On set source claimed the finale has large sequences set on Parallel Earth and this is where the Cybus Cybermen are introduced to the story. Source didn't give too much away in terms of plot but it's not a Cybermen civil war. The Cybermen do not fly in the episode as feared - they are in fact being teleported to their ship. Rose and Metacrisis Ten will feauture in the Parallel Earth scenes working in 'parallel' (if you'll pardon the expression) with 12, Bill and Nardole. Missy remains 'frenemies' with the Doctor but later turns. This leads to her regeneration. Nardole is set to die in Ep 11 in an abrupt and powerful scene and Pearl is leaving in Episode 12 - like Martha, she leaves on her own accord. Cliffhanger leads into Christmas.

>>80146700
We believe you.

>>80142173
Just saw the news. Fucking hype as fuck. Based Capaldi actually convinced Moffat to bring back old Cybermen.

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>>80147210
What kind of arguments do they have?

>>80146700
Why even bother writing this?

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>>80142173
>>80142646
Is this real? Holy shit, can't wait for them to ruin the classic cybermen

>>80147525
They can fly now. Ruined for you yet?

>>80143190
Series 9 is much better the second time

Cyber men are going to look like shit, they could have done the original design but made it look modern

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>>80147612
>Ruined for you yet?
Absolutely.

That's a bit of a disappointing way to ruin them though, since that was already one of the ways they ruined the Cybermen in general. Should show some originality when explicitly ruining the original design. Maybe they could have a scene where a single Cybus Cyberman stomps them all to death

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cybermen got trending on twitter

In the end it doesn't even matter

>>80148386
This is a sfw board
delet this

>>80146700
That would be nice.

>>80146700
Dubs, source tho?

Ep11:
>On the planet Mondaran, Willoway leads the resistance fighters against the Cybermen, conquerors of the planet. Reinforcements are called from Telos, including Junior Cyber-Leader Kroton. Following his capture and interrogation, Willoway dies. Kroton is 'puzzled' by his sacrifice and tracks down fellow rebels, Marilka and her lover Pendar. When the rebels are betrayed by the businessman Zarek, Kroton helps Pendar escape and takes him away from the city. Suspecting Kroton's erratic behaviour, the Cyber-Leader tracks them down. Turning against the Cybermen, Kroton helps the rebels escape to the safety of the Forest of Lorn, then removes the craft and takes it into space. Without fuel, batteries drained and unable to return, Kroton drifts on.

Ep12:
>Kroton encounters the Doctor and his companion on the Qutrusian Cargo Freighter X-703. After assisting them, he joins them in the TARDIS. The Doctor and Kroton must fight the Master and Sato for the Glory, where the protector of the Glory has full powers over space and time...

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>tfw original Cybermen returning wasn't a dream

Someone is behind the Cybermen, it's not the Master, and it's not the Cybermen of their own accord. Prepare to get hyped when you see who appears on set soon.

>>80148751
Someone post the bagpipes one

>>80148802
The Central Committee

>>80147612
We don't know if the original Cybermen will fly, maybe they'll be carried by the new ones like the Christmas movie with the Snowman.

>>80148802
Sounds terrible.

>>80148824
whats that one?

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Capaldick

>>80146700
Does 12 run towards Rose and hug her in an emotional scene?

They're going to have to get Susan back before Carole Ann Ford dies.

>>80148886
It's the same shot maybe three seconds later. His face is superimposed over a shot of the Highlands, and the subtiltes are something like [Bagpipes playing in the distance]

>>80149079
William Russell too

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>>80148802
>>80146700

>>80149202
Rose and Ten again could literally be the only thing that could ruin my hype

>>80149247
DONNAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

>>80149202
Of course the MC is the Valeyard. Somewhere between the Doctor's 12th and final regenerations? He's literally the only plausible thing if you're just talking about the original cycle.

Tennant as valeyard Meta crisis 10 and as the series 10 villain would actually be GOAT, Tennant is great when he plays evil.

>>80149288
What about the idea from Trial of the Valeyard, that he's the result of experiments the "last" Doctor (11 on Trenzalore, as it turned out) did to try and extend his cycle? You could get a great Matt Smith audio boxset out of that.

>>80149079
>Night of the Doctor canonized the Eight Doctor audios
>One of which included the Doctor's reunion with Susan

I wonder how will they'll mention it.
Who am I kidding, no one cares about the canon

>>80149397
Maybe it's evil Matt who 12 is hiding in the basement.

>>80149344
I can't think of a way they could present it without it being really convoluted and alienating to most of the audience.

>>8014928
>>80149344
Kilgrave!Valeyard would be tits.
Maybe his human side turns him evil and he kills Rose. Horribly.
He's more of a hybrid than anyone

>>80149079
I still believe that Moff fucked up by not having Susan convincing the Doctors not to press the button in the 50th. It'd make much more sense than fucking Clara giving a speech and changing everyone's minds.

>>80149445
Just show a quick flashback to Journeys end, and the Valeyard can explain that he was meta-crisis 10 and in the desperation for regeneration's he became how he is.

The majority audience wouldn't care anyway they'd just get wet over Tennant being back.

>>80149542
Regardless i'm really excited as to who the series 10 big bad is.

>>80149542
>Just show a quick flashback to Journeys end, and the Valeyard can explain that he was meta-crisis 10 and in the desperation for regeneration's he became how he is.
Your sentence explaining how to explain it to normies has left me confused.

>>80149618
A Flashback to Petes World, showing the audience that things didn't work out between Rose and Meta-Crisis 10. Meta-Crisis 10 didn't want to be stuck as a mortal, knows the Doctor is still busing around in the original universe and somehow he manages to escape back into our reality to steal 12's ''unlimited'' regeneration cycle.

>>80149542
>The majority audience wouldn't care anyway they'd just get wet over Tennant being back.
Which is why the best idea is to not explain it at all. Just start off with "Allonsy! Mwa-ha-ha-ha-ha!"

Then you can sneak in an explanation gradually over the course of two episodes, but don't give people flashbacks or an infodump to get through at the start.

>>80149745
Really it's unrealistic to think that people tuning in now would necessarily have seen Tennant's run, let alone Trial of a Time Lord

>>80149817
Then that's their fault. And I'd say the vast majority have, why do you think most casual viewers still demand Tennant back?

>>80149817
So what? When a brand-new villain pops up, they don't start off with a big infodump telling you this new villain is, they start off with him being a villain. If the Doctor learns his backstory at all, it's toward the end of the episode.

So treat him as a new enemy (with just enough hints to make sure the fans get that he's the Meta-Valeyard, if you must) and just use him as a good villain, and then start giving us the background further into the story.

>>80149857
>Then that's their fault.
This is the kind of stupid thinking that would get the show cancelled. Even just Journey's End is almost a decade old. You can't just reintroduce obscure plot points that old and expect your audience to keep up.

>>80148802
Rassilon

>>80149515
Eh, I can kind of see it, but the I think the main point of Clara's speech was that Clara knew 11 and couldn't believe he was capable of blowing up Gallifrey. Susan has a more personal relationship with the Doctor but wouldn't really be as relevant to the story since she hasn't met the post-Time War Doctor before.

Doctor Who has never really been much about continuity between incarnations. Once The Doctor regenerates it's mostly a blank slate.

>>80149914
>Utopia
>The Master

>>80149515
Paul Cornell predicted about 9 years ago that RTD wouldn't bring back Susan, and neither would his successor, because any showrunner would be paralyzed by the question of whether to give her a regeneration story or not. (Because once you do, you can bring Susan back again, but not Carole Anne Ford.)

I think that's going a little too far. I can see the dilemma, but it's pretty obvious that Carole Anne Ford isn't going to be coming back every two seasons anyway at this point, so… if you want to regenerate her, just do it.

>>80150142
Completely different. The Master isn't an obscure plot point, they're a character that's spanned most of the show's history and is known even to casual viewers. You don't need to explain the Master in the same way you have to explain the Valeyard or Meta-10.

>>80149914
Yes you can. You EXPLAIN it to your audience. Doctor who is a show that often brings back old characters and ''lore'' points. The rules of regeneration for example weren't mentioned again until 11 had to regenerate. The regeneration limit was first mentioned decades ago. 11 simply explained it to Clara and thus the audiences understood. In a show like this you have to take risks, taking the easy ''oh the modern audience won't understand, let's play it safe root'' is what is stupid and is what will kill the show if it is too often enacted.

>>80150115
Well, the biggest exception to that tradition is 9 to 10. Both incarnations are ultimately all about a continuous developing relationship with Rose. So I think people who started in 2005 may have different expectations of continuity across incarnations than classic fans.

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>>80150290
You know, you're right. Moffat only made it worse with 11 to 12.

Fucking hell, is Bill going to have more than one series?

>>80150289
I still don't get why both of you think it needs to be explained before people can enjoy it.

It obviously need to be explained at some point by the end so people don't look back on it and think "Wait a second, why was David Tennant the bad guy?", but while people are watching most of the story, if the Meta-Valeyard is a good enough villain to be worth watching that's all that matters to anyone's enjoyment. You two are arguing about whether Moffat could or couldn't pull off a JNT, which is just the wrong question.

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>>80150022
But what you say goes the same for Clara, she hadn't met 10 or the War Doctor before the 50th, I don't think that relevancy matters.
And if it was Susan giving the speech that she couldn't believe her grandfather, whatever version he was, could be capable of blowing up Gallifrey, it would be much more impactful and made much more sense. As in, the only person who could stop him from that madness is his beloved granddaughter.

>>80150289
I agree with what you're saying but it's not really in contradiction with my point. There's a huge difference between having a line that restates the regeneration limit and bringing back the actor who played possibly the most successful Doctor ever and just being like "oh lol, that's a doctor who grew out of a hand and lives in a parallel universe"

Bringing back Meta-10 is pure fanwank, and it's difficult to present fanwank in a way that is also understandable and enjoyable to the rest of the audience (which is actually the vast majority).

>>80150290
Yeah, that's true. I think the RTD years form one greater arc between 9 and 10. It could all have been 9 and been little different.

> there is a timeline in which Eccleston stayed all the way through 2009
> there is a timeline in which Moffatt and Tennant both started at S5
> there is a timeline in which there was no Tennant; Eccleston regenerated into Smith
> There is a timeline in which Capaldi is uncomplicatedly the 12th Doctor

>>80150590
>There is a timeline in which Smith stayed for S8
>There is a timeline in which Capaldi stays for S11

>>80150590
>Yeah, that's true. I think the RTD years form one greater arc between 9 and 10. It could all have been 9 and been little different.
But now imaging that instead of tossing the regeneration, you toss the series 4 arc.

S2 makes us think the regeneration was important because it's why the Doctor can now be with Rose—but, psyche, that ends with Doomsday. And then Tennant has another 2-1/2 seasons that are about being Tennant—getting over Rose is part of it, but no more than his relationship with the Master, and a dozen other things.

It's only because Rose comes back that it doesn't matter that Tennant isn't Eccleston.

>>80150651
>There is a timeline in which Capaldi stays until S37 (having become the 9th Doctor fresh off of Neverwhere).
If you're going to dream, dream big.

>>80150413
>But what you say goes the same for Clara, she hadn't met 10 or the War Doctor before the 50th, I don't think that relevancy matters.
But that's the idea. Clara knows 11 but not the War Doctor and to her it's inconceivable that the Doctor would do what War does. That's why 11 realizes he can't accept his past self's decision and tries to come up with another way. I guess if it was Susan she'd be reminding him of who he used to be pre-War Doctor, with Clara it's reminding him how much he's changed and isn't like War anymore. Also, I'm not sure using the Moment would be that out of character for the 1st Doctor. He never really had to face a decision of directly sacrificing innocents for the greater good, but he did show that he was comfortable with genocide and letting people die so that history could take its course and I'm reminded of the ending to The Daleks' Master Plan where he seems more relieved about defeating the Daleks than he is sad about losing his companions. In the end I think he probably wouldn't do it, but it's easier to imagine 1 pressing the button than 10 and 11. Then again, they could have put Susan in Night of the Doctor and tied it in with the ear stories, having her relationship with the Doctor in Day also be based on him, but 8 is even more obscure a Doctor than 1, so I don't know if that'd be a good idea.

>>80150829
In your timeline, who was the 8th Doctor who presumably started near the end of S27, and why did he stay for 6 years? Or are you letting Capaldi break Tom Baker's record?

Dubs and Meta Crisis Valeyard is the big bad.

>>80150911
>In your timeline, who was the 8th Doctor who presumably started near the end of S27, and why did he stay for 6 years? Or are you letting Capaldi break Tom Baker's record?
Richard Griffiths only did just over 3 years as Eight, from S27-S30, and Capaldi broke Tom's record by staying from the middle of S30 until the end of S37. After which he was replaced by Paul McGann as Ten, of course.

>>80149817
Trial of a time lord maybe. But if you haven't seen Tennant's run then you don't like the show enough to actually care and would just accept whatever is being thrown at you.

Most of the younger audience didn't watch it a decade ago either, they watched it all in a week on netflix.

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>>80149931
this

>>80151093
Meanwhile, in that universe, someone is posting about his dreams of another universe where the tie-in novels weren't restricted to stories appropriate for 10-year-olds that have no impact on continuity, and those wacky kids behind the AudioVisuals eventually built a thriving business putting out dozens of new audio stories for the old Doctors with all the original actors instead of just getting one BBCR audio release every five years…

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>>80151438
Already happened

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>>80151438
this

>>80151438
>Literally undoes the Master race with a flick of his wrist
So it's just the Infinity Gaunlet, right?

>>80151438
Top search terms for that image: Timothy Dalton Time Lord Doctor Who James Bond Master

Seriously, more people are looking for pics of "that guy James Bond played on the one with the Master in" than "Rassilon"?

>>80151799
Well it wasn't really emphasized that he was Rassilon, just sort of mentioned offhand, so I'd assume a lot of people don't know he is. In fact I'd say it's a successful example of what that one anon is suggesting to do with the Valeyard.

>>80151916
10 calls him Rassilon.

>>80152002
But wanderer is right, that's one scene, almost at the end of the second half of the story. Up until then, they only call him "Lord President".

And even then, we don't get any backstory at all. Everything we know about how the Time Lords resurrected their founder to lead them again in the War comes from RTD behind the scenes (Confidential, DWM, interviews). I don't think that even got confirmed in-universe until Engines of War?

>>80151622
> ywn hear a War Doctor audio in which he must return to the Divergent Universe to retrieve Rassilon
> ywn hear Don Warrington reprise the role and then Rassilon regenerates into Timothy Dalton

>>80152535
I think there's a resurrection-of-Rassilon story in Seasons of War where they get him from the Matrix or something

>>80152746
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's how they did it.

Engines established that Rassilon was resurrected from the Matrix, and then one of the audios reiterates that, and implies that Rassilon had been able to upload a copy of his mind into the Matrix without dying (because he built the thing), so the older Rassilon trapped in the Divergent Universe isn't necessary.

Still, I wouldn't mind them retconning that away for anon's Warrington->Dalton regeneration scene.

>>80152799
So technically the Dalton/Sumpter Rassilon isn't the original?

>>80152799
So wait is the Tomb of Rassilon still occupied by Rassilon or what?

>>80152896
>So wait is the Tomb of Rassilon still occupied by Rassilon or what?
I haven't listened to Zagreus in forever. I can't remember whether he let himself die and then reconstituted his body at the end of time from the Matrix, or faked his corpse and copied himself into the Matrix while time traveling to the end of time.

I suppose it doesn't actually matter. Either way, he was resurrected from the Matrix; whether that Matrix upload happened as he died or as he faked his death, it's the same upload, right?

Or maybe it does matter. Do Time Lord minds in the Matrix go through time the same way living ones do, or are they sort of all over all of time at once?

>>80152849
>So technically the Dalton/Sumpter Rassilon isn't the original?
Well, RTD always said "resurrected", so that's true with or without any of the Big Finish stuff.

I suppose you could claim none of that was shown in-universe if you wanted to be all TARDIS Data Core about it, but in that case, we don't even know he's The Rassilon, he could just be another guy with the same name.

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Doom Coalition 4's out, apparently. Anyone still care about that particular run?

>>80152896
Doubtful, they probably put his mind back in his body from the tomb. Time lords except Time lords meeting themselves all experience time lines in sync.

>>80153392
Damn Paul looks great there, what year was that taken?

>>80151597
canon

>>80153392
I only listened to the first one before I decided I was sick of Liv and wanted to go back and listen to all the Charley ones I missed the first time around.

Is Helen better?

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>Miles doesn't even know who Stuart Douglas/Obverse are
;--;

>>80153392
Vaguely, yeah - one of many things I'll get to eventually.

>>80153443
2011, I think - it's from Butley.

>>80151710
Rassilon, I've come to bargain

>>80153618
What has Miles been doing, other than tweeting, since dropping out of FP? Did he take that stockboy job he was considering instead of doing Henrietta Street all those years ago?

>>80151597
>he kept the old guy look

Fucking why? Regenerate into someone who doesn't act like a fucking bitch already, someone young and virile.

>>80153818
I've heard that he inherited some property and doesn't really have to do anything as a result, but don't think anyone properly knows. Nothing creative, unfortunately; there was a podcast interview with him a few years back where he sounded depressed and said he wasn't interested in writing anything.

>>80152746
This one's called The Holdover btw, pretty gud stuff.

wait wait hold the fuck up
fuck I missed this announcement
how long ago was mondas cibbers announced?

>>80154128
>how long ago was mondas cibbers announced?
No official announcement, but lots of pics from #dwsr earlier today.

Although technically, Moffat announced Mondasian Cyberman back in 2010, only all he
meantwas that his Cybusmen didn't have the "C" and if you wanted to pretend that Mondasians had stolen Cybus technology he wasn't going to write anything to contradict that fantasy.

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Doctor no more.

>>80154249
When were cibbers in S9?

>>80153392

Well, Doom Coalition 3 was a big jump in quality from the previous 2, so here's hoping.

>>80154407

In the cloisters in Hell Bent

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Do you think moff will do cibbers right this time? Or will the mondasian body horror get overshadowed by "wow look every cyberman ever all at once"?

>>80142947
GOAT

They're only filming the finale now, even though the show starts airing in a month? Isn't that cutting things a bit close?

>>80154666

Doctor no more.

>>80154225
>No official announcement,
Yes there was, the BBC tweeted it.

>>80154978

Twitter no more.

>>80155008
wat r u doing?

>>80155008
This not gonna be a meme

>>80155017

Anon no more.

>>80155055

Memer no more.

>>80154225
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/doctorwho/entries/adff0629-5ce5-4a0e-b81a-69693d489745
>The original Mondasian Cybermen return to Doctor Who as filming begins on the final block of the forthcoming series…

>Filming has begun on the final two episodes of Doctor Who series 10, with this first look image revealing the return of a much-feared classic foe.

>The Doctor (Peter Capaldi) is pictured with the Mondasian Cybermen – the original version of the Doctor’s deadly enemies who hail from the planet Mondas and have not been seen in Doctor Who for over fifty years.

>The Mondasian Cybermen - Peter Capaldi’s long-time favourite foe - will return in episodes 11 and 12 of the series, alongside Capaldi as the Doctor, Pearl Mackie as Bill Potts, Matt Lucas as Nardole and Michelle Gomez as Missy. The episodes, written by Steven Moffat and directed by Rachel Talalay, are now filming in Cardiff.

>>80155096

Cybus no more.

>>80155096
>…and have not been seen in Doctor Who for over fifty years.
Did the BBC just tell us that David Banks' stupid book is canon and all the later Cybermen are time-traveling offshoots from Telos?

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The old Cybermen are a nice little going-away present for Capaldi, but I can't help but feel they're just going to fuck them up. They've been writing stompy-shouty Cybermen for so long, I doubt anybody at BBC knows how to do interesting Cybermen anymore.

>>80155215

Moffat no more.

>>80154703
>>80155008
>>80155056
>>80155147
>>80155245
Stop trying to make this a meme, samefag

>>80155273

Samefag no more.

>>80154666
No... because they will be finished shooting by April. Then they have like 3 months to finish post production effects while the earlier episodes are airing. Heaven Sent and Hell Bent were filmed close or during airing (I can't remember) in 2015.

>>80155273

Triggered no more.

>>80155309
How is that not cutting it close?

>>80155188
>Did the BBC just tell us that David Banks' stupid book is canon and all the later Cybermen are time-traveling offshoots from Telos?
Wait, no, because then they would have had to call these "Mondans" instead of "Mondasians".

>>80155379

Postprod no more.

>>80155379
How long do you think it takes to do postproduction on a TV show?

Even Day of the Doctor only had 5-1/2 months, and that included all the 3D work (which they had no prior experience with), insert shots with Capaldi, etc.

>>80155564

3D no more.

>>80155379
Not really, plenty of shows do this. The sound editing/scene editing doesn't take long. The special effects will take a few months for a budgeted show like Doctor Who 3 months is plenty of time.

>>80155608
cats, is that you?
>inb4 cats no more

>>80155668

Tripcode no more.

I think the Truth Monks might be Gallifreyan.

>>80155668
I think it's actually the singer of that new wave band Nomo, trying to subconsciously remind us of his old band so he can do a reunion tour.

>>80155564
>>80155649
I was thinking more along the lines of the fact that you can't go back and change things to meld better with later episodes if they're broadcasting while you're in post-production. But I suppose that's not really a problem, although I'm sure it could be since Moffat seems to be in the habit of making his arcs up as he goes

>>80155700

Nomo no more.

>>80148802
It's McGann who's spent all his BF money on collecting all the cybermen and storing them in his basement.
He's gonna say NO MORE and send NuWho into a pocket universe, making everything that happened after BBCi webcasts non-canon.

>>80155755

Planned arcs no more.

>>80155774

NuWho no more.

>>80155755
There's no reason in principle that people couldn't work the way you're suggesting, but I don't think anyone involved in Doctor Who ever has. Even RTD, who often delivered his scripts the day shooting started (and wrote a whole book about his writing process, so we know what happened) never considered revising a story because of the way another one turned out after shooting.

Of course he did sometimes revise stories based on the _scripts_ of other stories he'd commissioned, and I'm pretty sure Moffat does the same, but those come in a lot earlier.

>>80155699
>I think the Truth Monks might be Gallifreyan.
Based on what?

Do we know anything more about them beyond "Toby Whithouse's episode is an invasion story featuring 'memory police' and 'truth monks'" plus those pics of what look like tree-people in shawls?

>>80155885
That's a good point, it's probably all done in the scripting stage, as it should be. I just remember reading something in the Heaven Sent script about the confession dial and how they'd have to "cheat" and change the way it looked for something. I assume that was because they'd already broadcasting the first episodes.

I should probably look that up again because I only half-know what I'm referring to here.

How would the Doctor deal with invaders?

I love that The Independent's website finally covered the "betting suspended on next Doctor" story this morning, after betting has been unsuspended and Kris Marshall's odds have begun going down.

They also managed to get the Michael Clayton rumour into their article, after he's dropped so far off the radar that you can get 200:1 or better on the sites that still list him.

And they still had no time to proofread it.

Way to stay relevant, Indy.

>>80156121
We'll never know.

>>80156121

Invade no more.

>>80156154
>>80156173
Sorry, I should have been more specific. I meant Invaders.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVeUR2Oa614

>>80156195

Darth Invader

>>80156195
>Sorry, I should have been more specific. I meant Invaders.
Same way he deals with any other amorphous aliens: change a lighthouse into a laser by using diamonds and blast their mothership out of the sky.

>>80156173
I kind of like this meme to be honest.

>>80156249
I hope it works, these guys are nasty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWxklpTr8Wc

>>80156249
But how would he deal with Invader Zim?

Or Space Invaders?

Or A-26 Invader light bombers?

>>80156283

I subvocalise it in the tone John Hurt spoke it in - "Doctor no more!" all weary like.

>>80155908
Based on their aesthetic, I am probably wrong. Just a vibe. And they have a mummy/rotting flesh appearance not a tree like.

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>>80156328
Looks more like live wood than rotting flesh to me. Are the other pics besides this one?

>>80153618
The implication that Larry just gave the FP license to somebody without finding out who they are is funny. And sad because it shows how little he cares about Faction if he can't be arsed to remember who's keeping it alive.

>>80156360
We've returned to the Spooky Age of Who, I see.

>Ghost girls (that girl's qt, by the way)

>rotting tree/corpse things

>Mondasian body horror

>>80156360
Yes loads, search DWSR on twitter. They are deffo not wood.

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Top KEK

>>80156309
>Or Space Invaders?

>You don't need to invade this planet! I can find you another one, if you'll let me!
>Drop down, increase speed, and reverse direction.
>Look, if you keep dropping down and increasing speed, I'm going to have to let UNIT start shooting you down.
>Drop down, increase speed, and reverse direction.
>Oh great, another alien race that only says one thing. Now you're going to get all the other dogs in the neighborhood barking.
>Drop down, increase speed, and reverse direction.
>Exterminate! Exterminate!
>Delete! Delete!
>Sontar ha! Sontar ha!
>Shall we destroy? Shall we destroy?
>Hodor! Hodor!
>Moffat out! Moffat out!

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>>80156360
They do sorta have a Gallifreyan clothing aesthetic desu. Wouldn't be suprised if they are ancient undead Gallifreyans.

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>>80156360
Not wood, like leathery mummies.

There will be another announcement today.

>>80156460
Kind of, but it looks more Karnish than Time Lord—no sharp angles, high collars, pointy helmets, etc. Maybe they're left over from the dark times before Rassilon, in the same way the Sisterhood may or may not be?

>>80142837
"Fuck off children. I don't care that you broke your arm. Doctor Who is filming thats more important. REEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

>>80144219
Needs ome dwsr stalkers in the woods if they fit

>>80156514
>Maybe they're left over from the dark times before Rassilon, in the same way the Sisterhood may or may not be?
That works pretty well. The other orders besides the Sisters of Dreams (who became the Sisterhood of Karn) never got named, but Brothers/Monks of Truth certainly fits.

>>80156688
Monks of Truth knew Rassilon fucked over Omega, Rassilon did something horrible to them which led to their disfigurement and banished them to another dimension until they escaped. Blah.

>>80156715
There's also "Memory Police" in the episode, which certainly sounds like something Rassilon would create in a Larry Miles novel. (And they fit Moffat's thing with Rory about how changes in history become irrevocable when the memories of the original are lost.)

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John Lynch in Doctor who, announcement soon. No he's not the Doctor. Soon.

>>80142173
I take it they'll be going to Mondas in the early days of the Cybermen? Before they became a galactic empire and a huge threat.

>>80142306
>>80143929
Is this original Cyberman cyberconversion?

>>80157363
And the Cybermen from the future go back there for some reason, presumably to have them be upgraded to their most powerful forms from the very begining.

Is Rachel Talalay the best director to work on Doctor Who? Does everything she touch turn to kino?

>>80157485
I hope Cybus Cybermen aren't even in it, that sounds terrible. But I know they most likely will be.

>>80157752
>Does everything she touch turn to kino?
Have you seen Freddy's Dead: The Final Nightmare?

>>80157767
I'll take that as a yes

>>80157766
there's already pictures of them on set m8

>>80157766
We haven't had any Cybus Cybermen in years. All we've seen since the Moffat era are Mondas Cybermen that had the same desig as the Cybus ones for budget reasons. You can either chalk it up to them being dimensional counterparts or buy into Neil Gaiman's headcanon that the Mondas Cybermen encountered the Cybus ones and assimilated their technology.
Cybus was a mistake really, I don't know why RTD did the whole alternate universe thing to reintroduce the Cybermen in the first place.

>>80157806
Fuck. I bet there will be a scene where they meet the Mondas Cybermen and declare them to be inferior and delete/upgrade them or something stupid

>>80157827
>We haven't had any Cybus Cybermen in years. All we've seen since the Moffat era are Mondas Cybermen
Stopped reading there. You know what I mean.

>>80157827
>I don't know why RTD did the whole alternate universe thing to reintroduce the Cybermen in the first place.
It was so he could reintroduce cybermen with an origin story so it wasn't just "robots from space"

>>80157866
>It was so he could reintroduce cybermen with an origin story so it wasn't just "robots from space"
Couldn't he have just used Mondas then? He could of done pretty much the exact same plot.

>>80157896
It's cheaper to have a story set on earth

>>80157843
>declare them to be inferior
But they are inferior, they're literally the first generation of Cybermen who haven't gone through any of the upgrades of the later models.

>>80157916
>It's cheaper to have a story set on earth
Mondas is almost exactly like Earth, that's the whole point. It's what this Series 10 episode seems to be about.

>>80157941
Sort of, the cities are domed and look like retro 1950's London.

>>80157969
Nobody chibnall could hire could ever be as good as capaldi

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Looks like dwarves are playing the Emoji bots.

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hahaha

>>80156460
>>80156474
>>80156360

Is this what happens to the Sisterhood of Karn when the sacred flame runs out?

[screencap me]

>>80158139
They look like males tho.

>>80158139
they're not the sisterhood of karn or the sybilline sisterhood

they're new

>>80158222
They could be connected to Gallifrey though.

>>80158242
they're not

I went to secondary school with Pearl Mackie, I rode her at a house party, shy enough girl, sex was okay. Not actually joking.

>>80157919
They may be inferior in-universe, but they're far superior in reality so there is no enjoyment in watching the newest Cybermen stomp all over them.

It would be like watching Tennant call Hartnell an idiot and then violently humiliating him. While, technically, the 10th Doctor would know a lot more than the 1st, it's not something we want to see.

>>80158242
no, because not everything is fanwank

>>80158261
We'll see anon. Unless you have proof they are ''new''

>>80158263
Cool story pal.

New thread:
>>80158215

>>80158280
yes, we'll see.

they're new. watch this space.

>>80158279
Connecting a new creature to Gallifrey is not fan wank. It's called expanding the established lore.

>>80158302
only fans care about "established lore", it's fanwank

>>80158317
Implying the writers aren't fans, Nothing wrong with fanwanking. Get over yourself woman.

>>80158338
>Nothing wrong with fanwanking
>show declines in the ratings
>show becomes unpopular
>nobody cares about doctor who
>show cancelled like the 80s because of fan cockrubbing

tbf bringing back the Mondas cybermen is the ultimate fanwank

Today is the v tripuser's birthday

>>80158574
fuck off cats

>>80158657
>>80158574
we should make him a card. maybe he'd come back
best trip