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>The Shelling Scene will feature the original score but remixed by Steve Aoki

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7IXh6rwAU4

What the fuck were they thinking?
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>>80136931
I'm gonna shit-bane this thread.
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did you expect them to not fuck up everything with his movie?

let's be real here
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>>80136931

If you forget about it being GiTS it actually looks pretty good desu
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>>80136931
jesus fucking christ

>that music
>EVERYTHING THEY TOLD YOU WAS A LIE
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>>80136931
>The Shelling Scene will feature the original score but remixed by Steve Aoki


That's not true.

I think the fucking awful remix will be in the movie or maybe in the credits but you are full of shit.
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>>80136931
>calm scene in a car
>suddenly big crash filmed from the interior

They need to stop with that. I swear I've seen this shit in the 5 last Tom Cruise movies
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It's like someone put the original song in a blender.

Sounds about right considering what they did to the film as a whole.
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This is the kind of shit I thought dubstep is made fun of for. Who the fuck is that fat Nip cunt Aoki anyway?
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>>80136931

the only thing I was looking forward to was the sound track

what
the
FUCK
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>>80136931
it's like a bad gaming montage
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>>80137071
not really.
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>>80136931
NO NO FUCKING NO FOR FUCK SAKE!

FUUUUUUUCK!!
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Predict the RT score.
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>>80138055
It's going to get panned regardless because of whitewashing.

I'd say 35%
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>>80136931
Wish I was dead after hearing this
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>>80136931
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>>80136931
Jesus christ...
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They should have made a Venus Wars movie instead.
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>>80136931
It looks awful, but I have a feeling the japs will love it.
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>>80136931

reminder that this music is only going to be used during the last part of the credits so who gives a fuck
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>>80136931

it's another suddenly everyone acts like the Ghost in the Shell franchise isn't mostly cool future action stuff anyways thread
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As someone who doesn't even mind dubstep/house this is totally inappropriate
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>>80136931
Well, time to kym my self
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>>80136931
>10 seconds into the trailer
>Inception horns
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>>80136931
https://soundcloud.com/peter-lan/making-of-a-cyborg-remix
I actually really like this mix.
Not as good as the original but interesting.
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>>80136931
Thanks a lot you shit-brained, fuck-faced, ball breaking, duck fucking pain in the ass.
So much for your shelling scene
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>>80136931
i just saw the teaser trailer thingy because someone posted a link in another thread and the storyline seems to have SFA to do with GitS and seems to be a complete asspull generic hollywood herpaderp
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i mean holy fuck. did these hollywood retards not even fucking read a cliffs notes / tvtropes entry / synopsis on GitS before deciding to fuck up the IP with their shit.


>the major was in a cyborg 'shell' since a car accident at the age of 8
>she served in wwiii with other cyber commandoes as specops.
>aramaki post war pulled a lot of strings to get them a gig as 'police' in a shady as fuck ( legally speaking and ill defined nebulous role) le dept.


how the FUCK does any of that have ANYTHING to do with this shitshow the trailer is painting of the hollywood story?
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>>80138481

>it's a retard doesn't understand half of GitS was about the backroom political dickery and fucking about in the shadows and pointed comments alluding to nebulous things only indirectly mentioned as a backdrop to the used futre bcyberpunk setting and the actiony / scifi stuff
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>>80138087
it's not even whitewashing at this stage.

it's fucking americuntisation
>nyc instead of Neo T
>retard hollywood throwaway popcorn flick 0 brains contrived shallow simplistic downs-syndrome-baby-with-crayons story instead of GitS depth
>then the rampant whitewashing idiocy of such obscene idiocy it HAS to be a fucing joke, a deliberate pisstake insult to japan. a giant 'hey, go fuck yourselves you stupid gooks, with a cactus, sideways!'
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>>80137071
kill yourself /a/ shitter
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>>80136931
I feel like Scarlett is way too expressive during the action scenes. And the dubstep sounds like shit, is this some sort of ruse?
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>shitty dubstep by an amerigook
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ITS NICE TO SEE THE AMV SCENE IS ALIVE AND WELL.

nightcore version when?
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>>80139268
underrated
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>>80136931
>remixed by Steve Aoki
why
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>>80136931
>they created me but they cannot control me
>they are still keeping this line
why
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YEAH MAN GOTTA FIST PUMP TO PHILOSOPHICAL CYBER PUNK KINO
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>>80136931
they're not using it for the shelling sequence
its only for the trailer
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>>80136931
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>>80136931
eh they shoulda gone with sbcr prolly only got aoki cus hes half asian.
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>this "music"
gross
good to see this is going to be such shit
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>normies still seem hype about this
It's finally here. After the capeshit era here comes the animeshit era.
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>>80144474
we were warned
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jafd97yJFOI
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I've lived long enough to see everything I ever love be raped... I'm not even thirty yet and there is nothing left that hasn't been ruined and noting coming to look forward to other than more disappointment...
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>>80136931

Good. I'm glad weebfags everywhere will be upset.
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>>80136931
I dont have the heart to watch this. Never even seen one trailer.
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>>80145405
>talking bike
you know, I think that's going to happen. or at least it'll have some kind of AI where it behaves like a puppy. Americans love that shit.

also there won't be Black characters part of "Kaneda's" gang since Black people aren't gangbangers.
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>>80139512
From the trailer it looks like Motoko is now angry at the government for experimenting/borging her as an adult. Then batou looks to be chasing her down. All while laughing man/kuze edges her on. Am I missing something, because this shit looks like a train wreck.
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I hope GitH is /tv/s "Breath of the Wild."
/v/ wanted it to fail so badly they did nothing but shit on it the way we shit on this movie... the.
Once it came out everyone absolutely loves it and watching /v/'s suffering is incredible.
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[beat drop]
laff until my surgical repaired side failed.
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>>80136931
is anyone even going to watch ghost in the taco shell?
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We've already seen the Shelling scene, and it has a remix of the original theme but much more subtle. Warning: its a video of a movie screen, so quality is shit im not a shill, this movie will still suck, just want to put the record straight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5amv-vqUFo
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>>80146869
I guarantee that they'll use the Aoki remix over the end credits though
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No one really talks about this but Steve Aoki was pretty involved in the underground hardcore punk scene during the 90's he did some stuff with Ebullition Records I think
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>>80146939
So he is the jap Skrillex?
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haha, reminds me this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3BWWgxYxCs
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>>80138589
>>Inception horns

Why are those horns on everything right now? i mean... they are on fucking Logan.

>>80136931

Okay, that's it. I am not watching this. I could go with the dumbed down plot and the use of Scarlet and whatnot but they are really trashing it now. They pushed too far.
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Who gives a fuck about anime? Looks like a decent sci-fi shooting movie and that's all that matters.
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I'm actually for whites to take weak asians roles, they can't show confidence, but I hate that fat slug jew
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>We want the /v/ audience

My God that fucking music, it's awful.
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bruh...
look at this dude
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>>80136931
Are they really starting an entire franchise of anime movies that will encompass a new genre
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Holy fuck they managed to screw up the soundtrack.

How do you fuck up the soundtrack for a GITS movie.
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>>80136931
This movie really busts my nuts. ScarJo should be nude. Its possible for robots to have genitals.
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>>80136931
>Not a single person exploded after being shot.
0/10, music is also a fucking disgusting abortion, a lovely track absolutely fucking ruined by dubshit.
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>>80147606

Why was it okay for her to be nude in Under the Skin but not Gits?

Also what audience are they after, capeshit, /v/ermin?
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>>80147762
for one, Major wasn't nude in GitS, she had a skin color thermoptic suit. And a live action nude chick beating dudes up looks a lot weirder than in animation
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>>80147519
So far we have Edge of tomorrow, GitS, that Cameron Alita movie,and maybe
Kite.
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>>80147822
GIT GIT

Has a whole host of content and this is only the first movie

Americans consume anime profusely so I don't know why this wasn't done before hand
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>>80147390
Why not stick with off-white eye augments? Making them black just makes them goofy.
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>>80147869
Maybe the filmmakers want people to think that they are just ultra-fancy sunglasses
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>the end of the trailer where she punches that dude and puts absolutely no effort into it
TOP KEK
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>>80147821
The making of a cyborg part has a cg when she could have been nude
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>starts off with the original YOOOOOOOO when referencing the anime
>"remixed by" appears
>then you hear that shitty BRRROOOWWWMMM hollywood trailer crap
>some name comes up
>fucking dubstep

u g h
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The trailer I saw in theaters had a remix of Enjoy the Silence by Depeche Mode, it was alright I guess.

This cheap club dubstep shit takes it all down in the gutter for me.
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>>80136931
Dude dubstep is hip with the kiddies lmao
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I don't want to ruin the surprise for you but Tachikoma has been replaced with a talking pie.
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>>80139641
>>it's a retard doesn't understand half of GitS was about the backroom political dickery and fucking about in the shadows and pointed comments alluding to nebulous things only indirectly mentioned as a backdrop to the used futre bcyberpunk setting and the actiony / scifi stuff

In English please?
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>>80147950
>sunglasses
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>>80136998

Yes (but not everything)
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>>80138481

With the exception of a few episodes, even SAC isn't that action heavy, honestly. It's mostly about detective noir stories and backroom political dealings.
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>>80136931
Fuck this movie and everything about it.

https://youtu.be/0Ll7gt0meuU
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>>80136931
The whole remake was a fucking farce from the beginning. This Aoki score is just indicative of the standard its made at.

Remakes are just about NEVER GOOD.

Not these days, certainly.

What you need to understand is that the kind of boardroom and focus group approach to making films now can only result in mediocrity. With anything there needs to be a very high standard for all decisions made, and if you don't have a brilliant hivemind working synergistically (won't happen in the current production environment), then a control freak auteur working with handpicked geniuses of their own respective tasks is the only chance something has.

Really, stop expecting anything from movies like this.
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>>80136931
>using that fore the shelling sequence
I doubt it, the remix is probably just for the trailers
the dialogue is so fucking bad though
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>>80148895
not even japs give a shit about Americans play the characters
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Whats even the point of making sure people know its a remix?

The fans who actually know the original score are unhappy and the casuals who don't know the franchise don't give a shit.
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>>80136931
Looks good to me. Watched the first season of the anime, I don't watch anime but loved that season.
I like SJ, her voice is amazing and she's going to have a more suitable voice than the English dub did.
Getting Aeonflux vibes from the trailer, loved that film but you don't hear it mentioned.
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>>80136931
making of cyborg chopped & screwed when
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>>80136931
now i cant w8 to torrent this look so fucking bad
meme potential is very strong
>it will bomb so hard is this ScarJo action flick career end ?
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After every trailer I think "it can't get worse than this"
I am constantly and consistently proved wrong.
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>>80148895
LMAO

Where was the outrage for asian actors when Edge of Tomorrow came out?
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>>80136931
>those action scenes
Fucking terrible looking
>all these slow motion meme scenes
I hope they don't do that in the film
>plays one of the most iconic woman power alpha female characters ever created
>can't be bothered to get into shape
I haven't seen ScarJo look this bloby before. She's regressed when she should have got in the best shape of her life for this role.

This film will be another shit adaptation.
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>>80138481
Besides the first movie the show wasn't like the most amazing woke af thing to ever exist it was just very well done; animation was very high quality, plot was solid, characters were well handled, and it had good design and use of philosophy and sci fi. It was indeed more than just cool future action. It wasn't the most amazing sci fi in history but it was a well grounded solid sci fi in all seriousness.
This movie however is just a summer action flick with wow factor visuals that are memey.
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>>80151135
What did you expect anon
Director is the guy who did Snowhite and the huntsman KeK
and the writer have like 2 shit tier movies before doing this one
The course to failure was set long before filming even began !
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>>80151125
Can you name a single person who doesn't use a Burmese printing press discussion site that knows about "All You Need Is Kill"
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>>80139268
This completely changes the way I think of the three shells.
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>>80151234
Even when it was a clue on Jeopardy no one got it.
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>>80145405
>inevitable black gang member
Oh how times have changed.
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>>80150978
Jesus christ... just end your life.
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>>80148895
Hahaha, goddamn that was retarded.
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>>80148895
i dont know if a kid that young should be reading ghost in the shell in the first place
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>>80136931
Link to original song?
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>>80148895
Where's the scene where she looks at the lesbian sex scene in the manga?
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>>80148895

lol giving a kid a Masamune Shirow manga lolol, she then grows up into a side buzzed boy lolol

I had a hearty laugh thanks.
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>>80147390

All this concept art team has no idea what they are doing
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>>80138481
its about Voyage of the states of humanity and technology the plausibility of artificial intelligence becoming fully sentient ghost in the machine etc..... i can go forever but no point since you seems missed the whole movie anon
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>>80151658
>>80151415
Without proof this means nothing.
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>>80151720
The original movie was so far up its own butt i dont know how anyone could watch it for anything other than its animation and mechanical design work. GITS/GITS2/Patlabor/Patlabor2, Oshii is a terrible director.
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>>80151720
Whatever dork, didn't you see the sicknasty tank fight at the end bro? And Majors sweet titties?
That's what the movies about you dweeb.
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>>80151436
fuck off normie trash i bet you think the anime is about sci fi action detective shit
stupid pleb you deserve this flick its made for people like you
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>>80151786
>>80151825
This is why we got this abortion of a movie.
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EVERYTHING THEY TOLD YOU WAS A LIE
THEY TOOK MY LIFE
ILL TAKE MY REVENGE
THEY CREATED ME
BUT THEY CANNOT CONTROL ME
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>>80151825
If you are a waifufag or an americuck who can't handle the naked form. The scene was the transcendence of the appreciation and art of the human form and merging that beauty (like the classical artwork with naked people) with the machine that lied beneath. There's something wonderful about what we admire about the human body and then what we admire about the amazing machinery humans create and the two merged together in that scene. Just as she became naked, so too was the machinery exposed for what it is.
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>>80151526

This holy shit, GITS manga (or anything Masamune) is totally not for kids.
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>>80151825
>the sicknasty tank fight at the end bro And Majors sweet titties
bruh you think this scene is about tank action...... its so much more nigga im pretty sure you are memeing because if not you missed the whole movie nigga
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>they could have just not included the original score
>they could have included the original score and left it untouched
>they chose to include it and a remix it with wub-a-dubstep
>the ominous and hauntingly beautiful chants of reincarnation will be replaced by skrillex bass drops
they went too far
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>>80151865
Which other than this terrible remix, I am all for.
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The original anime was overrated anyway, who cares.
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>>80136931
fucking dropped
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>>80152010
>They could've just made an original story without using the GitS IP.
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>>80151865
they are memeing no one can be that stupid right ?
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>>80152161

I am not, Oshii is a overrated director. Most of his movies have great animation and mechanical designs with a bloated story about nothing.

Movies high on its own smugness, filled with slow pans on scenery, circle talk about nothing, and cameos by his dog.

Dialog is heavy handed and contradictory.
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>>80145676
No, Anon.

We still have Warhammer.
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>>80136931
>Steve Aoki
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>>80152301
>circle talk about shit that where discussed even from early roman geek civilization to this day
>its even more relevant now with the fast moving technology


>circle talk about nothing

ok good luck to you sir dont forget to go see this movie and clap at the end and between action scenes
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>>80152517

Yeah, more circle talk about nothing.

Who we are, what we are, are we us? am i me? are you you? what is real? what is digital? A big circle jerk with no pay off. They talk but it never goes anywhere. Puppet master says one thing, does another. Major says one thing, does a another. And in the end nothing even mattered and no one cared. Even Batou says so at the end when Major was in her "new" body.
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>>80152697
>They talk but it never goes anywhere

“And can you offer me proof of your existence? How can you, when neither modern science no philosophy can explain what life is?”

The point is no to go "somewhere" nigga wtf are you for real?
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>>80147822
Ah fuck not kite
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>>80152697
>A big circle jerk with no pay off

The Major fuses with a sentient AI, becoming a new life form. A possibiltiy of where man may be headed.

Jesus fucking christ GiTS 1995 is one of the LEAST subtle films known to man and people still don't fucking get it.

>>80151221
The Laughing Man is 4-8/10 stuff. As a whole it probably averages out at 6.5/10 to be honest. 2nd Gig is where it's at, dealing with the issues of refugees and the ubiquity of the internet.
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>>80152840

> The point is not to go "somewhere" nigga wtf are you for real?

It does not add anything new to the table. It is the same rehashed philosophy shit that has been talked for centuries. It does not add to it, and it does not do anything unique with it. It is a circle talk about nothing.
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>>80152967

> The Major fuses with a sentient AI

This is after all her talk about individuality, is she really her, is anyone really anyone? j/k lets totally merge who cares.

> A possibiltiy of where man may be headed.

So why not make a movie about that? GITS2 sure didn't continue with it.
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>>80153047
It does add. It establishes the mind/body problem, while recounting ideas of the ghost in the machine. Then it adds in its own idea of "what if we accidentally created a self-aware life form that yearns to reproduce, as well as disapproved of how we live?" But it doesn't just ask, it answers: Man should merge with it. All of this in a wonderfully crafted, animated package.

>>80153107
>j/k lets totally merge who cares.

Yes. That's exactly it. Man holds on to its individuality too much and it hinders progress in a world of ubiquitous technological wonders, like the internet. Look at the film's opening text:

>IN THE NEAR FUTURE - CORPORATE NETWORKS REACH OUT TO THE STARS, ELECTRONS AND LIGHT FLOW THROUGHOUT THE UNIVERSE.

>THE ADVANCE OF COMPUTERIZATION, HOWEVER, HAS NOT YET WIPED OUT NATIONS AND ETHNIC GROUPS.

>So why not make a movie about that?

Oshii is very withdrawn. He lives alone and with his dog. Methinks he's already given up to be honest. Why don't you make it?

>GITS2 sure didn't continue with it.
GiTS2 expanded upon the notion of our creations becoming self-aware. In Innocence's case it was sex robots, gynoids, gaining consciousnesses and not wanting to exist the way we want them to anymore.
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>>80137870
An idiot who got famous because he throws cake on his audience on his shows.
Japs are desperate for something interesting to happen in their lives, so they'll go to a concert explicitly to have cake thrown at them to feel alive.
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>>80147296
>/v/
>liking dubstep
Fucking kill yourself, dumb /tv/at
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>>80153218

Yes, but it does all that in the most convoluted way possible. It doesn't say *why* we should merge, just that we should, it doesn't say what will happen when we do, or if we don't.

Its basically a 2 hour movie that ends with Major shrugging, Puppet-master shrugging, and Batou saying he doesn't really care.

GITS tried to play with it with the sex robots, but it didn't even really do anything with that once Major shows back up. But i haven't watched it since it was in theaters.
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>tfw it would have made for sense to get porter robinson to do this but they got the worst DJ possible to do it

he was confirmed to use a ghost producer a few years ago, and has no idea what he is doing when hes on his own. i wasnt going to watch this and now i sure as fuck wont
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>>80153668
Almost trips.
>Yes, but it does all that in the most convoluted way possible

The film is extremely straightforward. Extremeeeeely.

> It doesn't say *why* we should merge
Escaping the feeling of weltschmerz that man has felt, and will continue to feel. Weltzschmerz being the feeling that physical reality can never satisfy the wants of the mind. The Major talks about it on the boat scene with Batou:

MAJOR: [...]Sure, I have a face and voice to distinguish myself from others. But my thoughts and memories are unique only to me. And I carry a sense of my own destiny. Each of those things are just a small part of it. I collect information to use in my own way. All of that blends to create a mixture that forms me and gives rise to my conscience. I feel confined, only free to expand myself within boundaries.

As you said, this is a feeling that has been written about for a few hundred years now. Most recently of note, prior to GiTS I mean, was The Ghost in the Machine.

> it doesn't say what will happen when we do

Because no one really knows. What say you?

>Its basically a 2 hour movie that ends with Major shrugging, Puppet-master shrugging, and Batou saying he doesn't really care.

The only thing true here is Batou shrugging. When was the last time you watched it, my man? Must be quite a while ago now.

MAJOR: Bateau, remember the words I spoke in another voice on the boat that night? I understand it now, and there are even more words that go with the passage. These words are: "When I was a child, my speech, feelings and thinking were all those of a child. Now that I am a man, I have no more use for childish ways." And now I can say these things without help in my own voice, because I am now neither the woman who was known as the "Major," nor am I the program called the "Puppet Master."
_____

MAJOR: And where does the newborn go from here? The net is vast and infinite.

cont.
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Scarlett isn't actually The Major. She's a duplicate made by a corporation using memories and trying to simulate experiences the Major had and get their own version of her. Half way into the film you meet the actual Major who is being played by an Asian actress. The line "You might just be a Ghost of a Ghost" is in the film and the themes are exploring what it means to be a fake of something that might not even be real
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>>80148895
awwww this make me feel sad because it had sad music!!
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>>80153900
>MAJOR: [...]Sure, I have a face and voice to distinguish myself from others. But my thoughts and memories are unique only to me. And I carry a sense of my own destiny. Each of those things are just a small part of it. I collect information to use in my own way. All of that blends to create a mixture that forms me and gives rise to my conscience. I feel confined, only free to expand myself within boundaries.

You know how i talked about individuality? my unique thoughts and memories? Well i was j/k, lets merge.
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>>80153668
>>80153900
Batou shrugging isn't an inherently negative thing. There are people who are quite contented with the reality we are graced (or cursed) with. Batou's one of them. For him, as far as the FILM series is concerned, he he loved his job and loved the Major. That was all he needed in life.

>GITS tried to play with it with the sex robots, but it didn't even really do anything with that once Major shows back up. But i haven't watched it since it was in theaters.

Yes, GiTS: Innocence doesn't have the payoff that GiTS 1995 has. It merely teases us that the AI fused Major is out there somewhere, doing whatever it is a post-human life form does.

But it does raise questions about man's future in regards to robots and AI. Unlike humans, dolls don't age. Dolls can remain perfect forever provided you maintain them. What would happen if you created a doll (with an AI) that could be your wife? Daughter? Maid? And what if that AI wife gains sentience? These questions are not answered in the film, nor are they explicitly asked, but they are questions worth poring over. We are getting closer and closer to virtual reality day by day.

>>80154020
Now we're going in circles. When was the last time you saw the film? I'm just gonna copy/paste what I wrote:

>Yes. That's exactly it. Man holds on to its individuality too much and it hinders progress in a world of ubiquitous technological wonders, like the internet. Look at the film's opening text:

>IN THE NEAR FUTURE - CORPORATE NETWORKS REACH OUT TO THE STARS, ELECTRONS AND LIGHT FLOW THROUGHOUT THE UNIVERSE.

>THE ADVANCE OF COMPUTERIZATION, HOWEVER, HAS NOT YET WIPED OUT NATIONS AND ETHNIC GROUPS.
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>>80151674
That's what you get when the "concept art" is simply stock photos meshed together. It doesn't translate well when moving around and being lit from different angles.
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>>80153900

GITS I watched with in the last 6 months, after i made it about half way through Patlabor 2, where then i proceeded to apologize to everyone about how incredibly boring that movie was. Oh, don't leave! Oshii is a great director I promise! See look, lets watch Ghost In the Shell!

But I was wrong. Oshii is a terrible director.
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>>80154089
Alright. I'm not sure how you expect me to respond to that.
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>>80154053

We are talking in circles, just like the movie. Amazing.

I last watched it within the last 6 months.

Batou is how i felt when i finished it and GITS2 when it came out in theaters back in 2004, i shrugged and said "Hey, at least the animation was nice".
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>>80142438
So he's always been a stupid attention whore I see
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>>80154168
>We are talking in circles, just like the movie. Amazing.

As funny as this is, you have nothing else to say? Nothing interesting or of substance? I've responded to all your points.

>I last watched it within the last 6 months.

Seems like it wasn't enough. Again, GiTS 1995 is one of the LEAST subtle films in history. That we're having this discussion at all is amazing.
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>>80154147

A duck is always a valid response.

The short of it is i don't think Oshii is very good. I did like him when i was younger, and then with in the last 6 months i went on a Oshii rewatch kick: Patlabor OVAs (liked), Patlabor 1(meh), Patlabor 2 (hated), and GITS (meh).

And realized I don't like him.
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>>80154252
I guess. I'm much less interested in Ghost in the Shell 1995 on a film level than I am on a thematic. I haven't seen Patlabor 1, 2; I never finished the OVAs but if you liked them I suggest Bubblegum Crisis.
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>>80154239

> I've responded to all your points.

You have.

I find Oshii's movies to be full of hot air with no major points. The animation is nice, the mechanical designs are amazing. But i don't think he brings anything new, or does anything new with the material or ideas he is discussing. He points at topics, plays with the idea, and then leaves them for something else. He is like some who is leading a tour at a at gallery, he shows you something, says something general, asks you what your thoughts was and then shows you something else.

I want to know what you think about it Oshii, you're the director, not me, direct.
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>>80154239
>Set in an era where machines and technology are commonplace
>look at what makes us who we are
>Where does your soul end and your body begin?
>At what point do we become more machine than man
>with the fast moving technology in today world soon we might have to ask ourselves these questions in reality

and there are people in this thread talking about "going nowhere" and that anime is about sci fi action and tank battles no wonder there so many threads created about shitty sitcoms and mr roboto tier tv series
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>>80154326

> I haven't seen Patlabor 1, 2; I never finished the OVAs

wut? Is GITS1/2 the only things of his you have seen?

Oh man, i didn't truly understand how much i did not care for him until i got to Patlabor 2. Which is also a lot of peoples favorite Oshii's work.
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>>80154326
Forgot my duck.

>>80154394
>But i don't think he brings anything new

My man, this is objectively incorrect. I've already stated this, keep up:

>It does add. It establishes the mind/body problem, while recounting ideas of the ghost in the machine. Then it adds in its own idea of "what if we accidentally created a self-aware life form that yearns to reproduce, as well as disapproved of how we live?" But it doesn't just ask, it answers: Man should merge with it. All of this in a wonderfully crafted, animated package.

>He points at topics, plays with the idea, and then leaves them for something else

Nobody knows what would happen if a human fused with an AI. This is all the more true considering I've asked you already your thoughts:

> it doesn't say what will happen when we do

>Because no one really knows. What say you?

If you can't answer, why do you expect Oshii, who is nothing more than a fellow human being, to know?

>asks you what your thoughts was
That's exactly how you should be living your life. Asking yourself questions about subjects, music, films, TV shows that you watch. Like for instance: Why do we still hold on to individuality?

>>80154438
Again, I am much less interested with GiTS 1995 (and 2004) on a film level than I am on a thematic. The notion of GiTS' animations, while worthy of praise and discussion, is far, far, far, far less interesting than the notion of where man is going with all this technology we have.
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>>80154534

> what if we accidentally created a self-aware life form that yearns to reproduce, as well as disapproved of how we live?

That is not new.

> Man should merge with it.

Also not new.

> If you can't answer, why do you expect Oshii, who is nothing more than a fellow human being, to know?

All he does it go: What if?

And i respond: Yea, what if?

And the credits start.

He doesn't do anything with the idea. That is one of my problems.

> Why do we still hold on to individuality?

Why doesn't Communism work?

> on a film level than I am on a thematic

Then you should have stated that at the start to save us both some time.
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>>80154534

> on a film level than I am on a thematic

> Then you should have stated that at the start to save us both some time.

I should rephrase, the idea presented is interest and worth discussing, but i think how they are presented in the *film level* was empty.
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>>80153917
is this more Chinese pandering by including te message knock off are ok? And although it would be an interesting idea I don't think its correct because that would mean they also made copies of all of Section 9 except Pazu whom they excluded from the film for extra diversity points by replacing his character with a woman
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>>80136931
i hate this earth
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>>80154656
>Then you should have stated that at the start to save us both some time.

Untrue. You have objectively incorrect feelings about the film which I have corrected i.e. "everyone shrugs."
>That is not new.
Name me a media that does it like GiTS. Ray Kurzweil has written books on the subject, AFTER GiTS 1995's release.
>Also not new.
Name me a media that does it like GiTS.
>He doesn't do anything with the idea. That is one of my problems.

>If you can't answer, why do you expect Oshii, who is nothing more than a fellow human being, to know?

>Why doesn't Communism work?

That's not the same thing. The film presents us with the idea of weltzschmerz, which is not a new idea, and provides us with a solution. If you could wipe out entire conflicts and suffering by uniting everyone in the internet, would you? If we are presented with an opportunity in the next 100 years, should we take it if we lose our individuality? Humans love to congregate at music concerts, church, movie theaters, stage theatres, etc. When we're all in those moments, lost together in the entertainment in front of us, it's an amazing sensation. What if you could replicate that feeling all the time?

>>80154699
>but i think how they are presented in the *film level* was empty.
I disagree, but this is also uninteresting.
>the idea presented is interest and worth discussing
Yeah? You have yet to really talk about it at all to honest. What with your communism strawman there.
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>Live Action Evangelion will have a 4kids style rap version of Cruel Angel Thesis
Love it.
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>>80154811

> Yeah? You have yet to really talk about it at all to honest.

Yeah, because I am discussing the movie level, and not at the thematic level.

> Name me a media that does it like GiTS

Fine, it is a not new thing, with new wrapping.

> provides us with a solution.

But it doesn't do anything with it. It starts with:

> >THE ADVANCE OF COMPUTERIZATION, HOWEVER, HAS NOT YET WIPED OUT NATIONS AND ETHNIC GROUPS.

But doesn't solve that problem.

It adds majors need to be individual, and yet part of something bigger:

> "I feel confined, only free to expand myself within boundaries."

With Puppet Master's want to reproduce, he goes, "hey, lets make babies" and she shrugs and goes "ok"

and then nothing.

They merge, a "human (maybe)" with a "AI (maybe)" and they make something. But nothing happens. The credits roll.

> If you could wipe out entire conflicts and suffering by uniting everyone in the internet, would you?

Plugged in VR 24/7

> should we take it if we lose our individuality?

Nope

> Humans love to congregate at music concerts, church, movie theaters, stage theatres, etc.

This is 4chan here, be realistic.
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>>80154994
>Yeah, because I am discussing the movie level, and not at the thematic level.

Yeah I guess we oughta stop if you're not interested in the other stuff. My bad.

>Fine, it is a not new thing, with new wrapping.
You don't get to make this assertion if you can't name a media.

>But it doesn't do anything with it

>If you can't answer, why do you expect Oshii, who is nothing more than a fellow human being, to know?

>Plugged in VR 24/7

Are you saying yes, then?

>Nope

Why not? (you don't have to answer this, or my entire post at all, I know you're more interested in GiTS 1995's aspects as a film.)

>This is 4chan here, be realistic.
The point still stands.

For 4chan, we all come here to talk to other human beings anonymously, free of consequence for whatever we say. What if we could accelerate the process? The show, Stand Alone Complex, has an episode where a bunch of anonymous users engage in an online, virtual reality chatroom. They actually just talk back and forth, instead of say you and I posting and then waiting for a response. They all have cyberbrains to make this possible. Should we say no to cyberbrains should the possibility arise? At what point does becoming a cyborg mean no longer being human? Does it matter? Where does cyberization stop? Should it stop? etc. Again, you don't have to respond.
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>>80146439
This thread is more /a/ than /tv/
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>>80155374
shut up
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>>80136931
Op is lying btw. Movie looks like garbage, but they already released the scene months ago.
https://youtu.be/F5amv-vqUFo

>>80148895
Reminder that anyone who mentions the SJ in GitS has no idea what they're talking about.
https://youtu.be/eKkp2jjOk88
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>>80155537
>they already released the scene months ago
>implying modern movies aren't being retooled right up to release
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>>80155626

Literally the only sauce on the internet is this thread.
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>>80136931
I have a feeling the Aoki mix was meant to be for the trailer to get people hype, and they may have a revamped version of Making A Cyborg that still has the same style of the original.

Let's give these fuckers a chance.
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Are they going with the major being the first ever full cyborg or something?
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>>80150978
>not watching cringe kino at the kinoplex
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>>80148895
why is that little girl reading Gits? Isn't there straight up hentai in those books?
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>>80148895
This is so fucking stupid on too many levels.
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>>80154230
Looks like the two of you have that in common.
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>>80136931
The new trailer makes me feel empowered as a woman.
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Fuck off all of you bunch of hypocrites. All of you will be going to the cinema in the release day, you will enjoy it and then will come back to /tv/ to shit on how >muh it didn't feel like GITS, just to fit in and look cool.
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>>80154072
Concept Art is just concept art. It's used to express the aesthetics and visual style to the design and production teams. There is nothing wrong with collage work. Production designers and art directors have even been know to literally use scribbles on paper napkins to express their concepts. You're an idiot.
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>>80136931
That flick will be "Robocop 2014 meets Aeon Flux 2005". Sad.
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>>80136931
>original score

Wow impressive and bold choice.

> remixed by Steve Aoki

Wow it's actually shit.
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>tfw this is bound to underperform like all Female Centric Action films do
>Hollywood will keep their hack hands from actual good Anime like Cowboy Bebop

Thanks GITS, you finally were good for something.
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>>80158638
>>tfw this is bound to underperform like all Female Centric Action films do

thing is Scarjo is the one person who bucks that trend, see:Lucy.
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>1996
>Buy a video game magazine from the local news agency because its got Alien Trilogy on the cover
>In the movie review section it covers GitS
>Go to the video store a couple weeks later and find it
>Wow this is pretty cool
>Ask other kids at school if they ever heard of "anime"
>lol no wtf is that

Send me back
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>>80152439
>He doesn´t know
anon, the canon story is advancing at this very moment, and you are probably not going to like what is happening
the eldar managed to revive their god and reunite, shaneesh is fucking dead, Guilliman just revived, The Fang got fucked by the Thousand sons and Abbadon is on a direct course to Terra
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>The Shelling Scene will feature the original score but remixed by Steve Aoki
Source.
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>>80146234
Don't worry, Idris Elbow will play the colonel.
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>>80158638
Reminder that DB Evolution was suppose to be the movie that rocket jumped the anime live action scene. We'll need more DB Evolutions to thwart off hollywood anime adaptions.
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Will they shoehorn the Tachikomas in? Topical and a great storyline.
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>>80136931
the opening scene looks good desu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5amv-vqUFo&feature=youtu.be
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>>80148895
pretty sure it is technically illegal to sell that book to a kid

plus there are like a thousand shojo manga the girl could have read instead
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>>80160148
>shitty superficial recreation of a classic scene from a gret film
>good
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>>80136931
I'm not even mad
I just don't care anymore
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>>80154887
YA YO
GET IN THE ROBOT SHINJI
YA YO
GET REI READY TO PILOT
YA YO
LIKE A CRUEL ANGEL HAVING A THESIS
YA YO
*insert dubstep toilet sounds here*
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>>80136931
It's like they want to piss off the original fans as much as humanly possible.
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>>80155537
>Reminder that anyone who mentions the SJ in GitS has no idea what they're talking about.
The problem isn't that she's white, but a bad actress.
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I dont get this edm, dubstep bullshit how do people like this shit?
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>>80136931
at least it has at least two scenes with kitano shooting people while looking moderately disinterested
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I mean I'm gonna watch it few my Jewfu but hopes aren't high.
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>>80153917
And this is better how?
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>>80160984
>>80153917
>and the themes are exploring what it means to be a fake of something that might not even be real
Also, that was already covered in Stand Alone Complex.
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>>80152083
>Hollywood
>original story
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>>80151233
>Director is the guy who did Snowhite and the huntsman
Which was a genuinely good movie besides Stewart being just meh instead of full on bad.
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>>80136931
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>>80159435

8e = Age of Sigmar 40k
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>>80161793
This, people keep parroting negative opinions about Snow White and the Huntsman in GITS threads, but I suspect most of them didn't actually watch it.
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Pleb movie makes, SAC ost was god tier
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>>80162128
Oh boy... indeed it was... this movie will be a massive shtifest.
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>>80136931
Nonsense. I was at the 1 minute pre-screening. The sequence has the GITS: innocence theme.

From what I saw, I'm not really looking forward to Major as much as I am Aramaki. the actor playing him gave me a chuckle when he sassed her about property damage.
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>>80163541
>15 minute pre-screening.

WTF is with the 4chan today and misreading keystrokes/autofill?
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>>80137075
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE_5Y9IKCk0
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>>80161793
except it wasn't, just a lame copy pasta version of all kinds of fantasy movies
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>>80163541
go ahead. We're waiting.
Any specific details would be fine.
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>>80163541
>1 minute pre-screening

This isn't a thing.
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>>80163948
he meant the 15 minute test screening that happened a few days back.
see >>80163604
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>>80164000
Still don't believe you.
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>>80148895
I felt the same way when they replaced the whole cast of ghost busters with women
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>>80153047
It's not supposed to. Good art raises questions, it doesn't answer them for you.
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>>80136931
Nicolas Jaar would have made a much better remix desu
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>>80163917
The opening starts off in a hospital scene where there's some people talking to her after what looks to be some sort of accident. The doctor explains to her that there was a terrorist attack and two shady dudes behind a one-way mirror discuss using her for some shit.

The 'shelling' sequence starts then and then there's a one-year timeskip before showing off the geisha raid sequence. Major gets backchatter on her coms and Aramaki cracks wise about keeping damages to a minimum or he's taking out of her pay.

Kuze shows up here for the first time, controlling the geisha gynoids, but he doesn't yet meet up with the major. She blasts the geishas and the last one mocks her identity before getting gunned the fuck up. Batou strolls in late as fuck after giving reassurrances and Major dives from the window. She entered within. (not sure why she needed to do that after she neutralised all the threats.)

After that is a clip montage of several unconnected scenes, one of which has major looking startled after Kuze Reveals himself and lowering her gun.

It seems to me just as much of a cop-out as the live action tekken movie so far. There wasn't much that really seemed authentic.
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>>80164052
https://twitter.com/GhostInShell/status/837052585685102593

Go on. You were saying?
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>>80136931
why do people care so much about this movie on here? fuck off weeb fucking shits
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>>80164762
It's like the matrix never existed to some people.
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>>80164659
Can't they find a better shot for THE FUCKING POSTER of the movie?
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>>80151533
https://youtu.be/B05FrZqFY3g
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>>80148895
man those shitskins in the comments are so uppity

white people genuinely fucked up by letting them live
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>PG-13


DROPPED
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>>80148895
lol at everyone triggered "urr durr Gits is not for children"...
guys, I have news for you: anime is nor for adults.
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>>80165410
Nigga, what?

>hurp, I was just trolling.
>I'm pretending to be a retard.
>burrhhurr, you took teh bait!!1!
It doesn't matter what excuse you use to try validating what you posted. You know this site, the subject matter and the reality.

There's no logic you can use to unfuck yourself, so just remember from here on out how fucking underage you are before posting this tired-ass meme garbage again in the future.
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ANON FROM THE 15 MINUTE PREVIEW

This is false

The shelling sequence has no Kenji Kawaii music but it instead has some ominous sort of spiritual music more similar to deus ex or stand alone complex

It actually works quite well as this shelling sequence is displayed less as a spiritual sequence and more of a shock to the senses upon losing your body and being plugged into a new one
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>>80139953
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>>80145405
we were warned twice
https://youtu.be/FckkZihQUaU
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>>80166552
why wasnt that image used as a poster? Looks way better than this trash>>80164828
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I love how they completely changed the lore to avoid the fact that the US were more or less the bad guys in the originals.
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>>80136931

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>80146939
He's still fucking shit though
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>>80164456
>There wasn't much that really seemed authentic.

>>scenes ripped right from multiple animated movies and tv episodes

How is this anything like Tekken lol
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>>80147822
I'd take Mezzo Forte if they did a shot for shot remake
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>>80157627
nope. not only will this film not receive my money, it also won't be allocated any bandwidth to pirate. fuck this garbage, absolutely.
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>>80136931
>dubstep
I just turned it off. It's like they want this movie to suck ass.

Can't wait to see it on Netflix.
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>>80159699
that could actually work though.
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>>80159885
no tachis or logis in the trailer so i doubt it.
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>>80166552
>spiritual music more similar to deus ex
https://youtu.be/tyG6YMLEWus?t=49m43s
?
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>>80146939
Whooooo caress
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>>80148129
*brostep this shit aint dubstep.
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>>80169494
any *step ((((((music)))))) is absolute fucking garbage; mainly from people who probably cannot write notation or play actual music on an actual instrument.

liking *step is the easiest way to signal you're a musical manlet.
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Jesus fucking shit.

I expected them to fuck it up royally, but what they shat out is beyond words and exceeded my expectations tenfold.

They literally couldn't fuck it up more if they tried it on purpose. If they were deliberately trying to fuck it up they would fuck up the process of fucking it up and the end result would be just bad and not an abysmally eye- and ear- fucking atrocity.

Just kill me now.
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>>80169566
Yea but nothing of what you've just posted is of any salience and completely shows the fact that you know nothing of what you spew from your fingertips. Coki / Kode9/ Burial etc. the original London purveyors of the scene all have known notation ...oh shit wait a minute the midi code makes notation for you . You don't have a point.
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>>80169750
My point is your music is dogshit

>MIDI was a mistake

computer faggots have no place writing music.
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>>80169799
Now you just sound like an angry 16 year old good luck out there faggot.
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I'll leave this here for detox purposes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6aqDZW1BUM
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>>80136931
>that Aramaki
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>>80144474
SAO is getting a live action series. It's been obvious animeshit era is coming for a good while.
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>>80159435
Eh, I'll take it.

Slan being dead means more hedonism without issue among humanity.
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mfw I see something from this new movie
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>>80170156
>make a state-of-the-art warform
>give it large breasts
anime is such a meme
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>>80146939
Okidoki Steve Aoki
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>>80170213
>What it is infiltration and blending in with civilians.
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>>80136931
GET OUTTA MY FILM STEEEVEEE
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>>80170213
You understand that you would have to live in this new body too, right? And sometimes you might want to do regular stuff like have sex instead of being frozen in storage and only activated for missions, right?
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>>80170213
Batou actually comments on this and the Major rejoins by stating that while a larger shell would be stronger her's is much more agile. Also, I doubt that any human-shaped form could have pried open that hatch.
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>>80136931
Because robots obviously equals daft punk.

steve aiko is from daft punk right?
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>>80168553
Are.... are you serious?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP5ywbD9sgo

Tekken is a fighting game franchise about tournaments and the mishima family.

As a surface explanation, you can say the live-action movie fit the description of this and they went through the efforts of even getting some of the actors to look like the characters, so when you learn shit like how they got fucking Lateef Crowder to play as Eddy, (if you know who that is and understand the importance) it would seem to be something that excites fan interest as it's done as a nod to the fans.... despite the film otherwise doing a fucking garbage job of following any of the source material with any form of integrity.

Strip-mining a property for recognisable visuals and straight-up half-assing any effort to properly adapt the source material is the context of the comparison. That's what they did to the Live-action Tekken movie.

Where you got off of this to bother introducing an 'lol' is lost on me when it should have been clear from the start or if you bothered to use google.
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>>80136931
wtf
at least hire noisia to remix the score
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>>80153357
I know this is bait but he's american and has american audiences
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>>80169991
Beat Takeshi is the best part of this movie
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>>80147821
>she had a skin color thermoptic suit.
Im pretty sure you could see her nipples, though. Like all the time, almost the entire movie
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>>80171090
>>80171090
>Beat Takeshi is the best part of this movie.
>this movie
You mean "Any" movie.
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is it just a misleading trailer or did they really scrap the story?

I'm talking about the 3-weeks-old trailer where they talk about "stealing her life". I'm pretty sure it sounds nothing like the animated movie. sorry, I've been out of the loop.
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>>80136931
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>>80172459
its not actually a copy of the 1995 movie but a sequel

Mira(the main character) is an experiment to see if they could recreate Motoko
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PG-13 .....throw it into the trash.
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>>80147822
forgetting dragonball evolution, mate?

kite 2014 for people who didnt know they already did it:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2044801/combined

hahahahahaha
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>>80136931
wow this movie is a clusterfuck. i don't know a single person looking forward to it
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>>80172601

are you serious? Then that's a lot less aggravating. but still, it's a pretty simplistic storyline.

I wonder how this will be received
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Why would anyone cast ScarJo for an action role ?
She doesn't even have any draw factor now, does she ?
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>>80171011
>noisia
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>>80147822
>that Cameron Alita movie

don't remind me, Gunnm is literally the only mango I care for with Vagabond
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>>80172802
Considering the comments I've seen she might actually be the opposite of a draw for action movies now.
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>>80172802

She's a decent pick for the character actually, even the hair looks pretty good. that skintight suit really does fit poorly though. I don't know why they chose to feature it so prominently in the trailers
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