>Critics hate serious superhero movies, they only want MCU

>caring about capeshit

>>>/r/eddit

DC: 1 oscar
Marvel: 0 oscars

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AHAHAHAHAHA

DC WINS AGAIN BABY

People often forget that the Nolan trilogy are some of the most critically acclaimed cape flicks of all time, even with that turd TDKR.
People just can't admit that Snyder is a fucking terrible director.

>>80119748
>>80119732
>>80119691

Look at the redditors treatimg /tv/ as their shitposting playground

>>80119732
omg his criticism are on point.

I thought he was just a meme but he really made me think..

>>80119769
Projecting, much?.

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>>80119649
>Critics hate serious superhero movies with compelling themes that challenge the viewer

ftfy

>>80119732

I love kick ass though.

>>80119649
This is Fox though. Disney/Marvel had fuck all to do with Logan.

>superhero movie
Actually it's a comic book movie. Judge fucking Dredd is more of a superhero.

>>80119732
>marvel/fox has the entire world backing them up
>DCucks have le epic contrarian faggot nigger
Really activated my almonds

>DCucks hid behind the whole Didney pays off critiks schtick, even with Deadpool being great
>Logan comes and BTFO's DCucks and their faggot theory of paid critics again

LOL
O
L

>since Disney buys critics no one else can buy reviews

Good logic there shills

>>80120683
They can never recover, imagine the levels of cognitive dissonance these faggots are on, it's a wonder they haven't killed themselves.
maybe some of them have but we'll never know

>>80119649
What's interesting about this is how they're going to react once this Snyder nonsense gets rebooted in a year or two. Are they still going to cling to those shitty movies, or are they going to move on to the next thing?
I love DC characters to bits and I hope they are done justice (lol) in the near future. This era of flicks has been an embarrassment for them.

>>80120705
>everyone but DC buys reviews

DC will always have their best makeup Oscar :)

nice try Marvelkeks :D

>>80119649
If anything it shows that critics' issue with BVS being grim and joyless was false and just an overreaching excuse to shit on Synder, cuz you know.. that's what's hip now

>>80119649

Will Disney Pantomines ever stop getting BTFO?

Even Fox is doing better movies than them now.

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Why are you marlelets so insecure? Is it because the MCU has never won an Oscar after 14 attempts? Or is it because not only DC but also Fox is making better movies than them now?

Who cares about that, it still makes money as long as Downey Junior is the main character. Quality is for losers!

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>>80120825
Name 1 DCEU movie better than Iron Man
Name 1 DCEU movie better than Winter Soldier
Name 1 DCEU movie better than Civil War

>>80120890
Academy Award winner Suicide Squad of course!

>>80120825
Suicide squad was better than doctor fag, that shit was one of the worst marvel movies, except the visuals, everything else was shit.

>>80120764

There is a time and place for grim and joyless, and also a way to go about making a good movie with those themes and tones.

Going that way leaves you very little margin for error and Snyder absolutely shat the bed on it too.

>>80120927
>still trying to make manchildren understand that Snyder is a bad director
Good luck, it's some stupid fucking cult at this point, they'll only call you a shill, one of them is so deranged he thinks everyone that dislikes Snyder is Indian

>>80120825
What is that image supposed to show? That a Marvel solo movie about an obscure hero made almost as much money as the biggest DC team-up movie to date, featuring Batman, Harley Quinn and Joker?

>>80120890
>Name 1 DCEU movie better than Iron Man
>Name 1 DCEU movie better than Winter Soldier

I can't.

>Name 1 DCEU movie better than Civil War

Man of Steel (2013)
Batman v Superman (2016)

>>80120825
>domestic
Why domestic?

>>80120890
>Name 1 DCEU movie better than Iron Man
>Name 1 DCEU movie better than Winter Soldier
>Name 1 DCEU movie better than Civil War
Batman (1989) and The Dark Knight.

>>80119849
Pic unrelated?

>>80120963
You don't know what the DCEU is, do you?

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>>80120958
>Man of Steel (2013)
>Batman v Superman (2016)

>>80120825
>>80120825
>a movie with Joker, Quinn and Batman beats a nobody hero

DCucks lmfao

>>80119882
>Disney/Marvel had fuck all to do with Logan.
He never said they did.

>>80120946

That the movie about Iron Man's replacement played by one of the most popular actors in the world was savagely BTFO by a movie about some slut dressed up as a clown played by some literal who famous for getting naked on camera, a batman cameo and 6 minutes of DAMAGED joker, with the same budget and Dr Underperformnge released in Christmas and Thanksgiving.

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>>80120983
>>80120982
>>80120946
>i-it doesn't matter that we got destroyed because we have EXCUSES!!

Don't worry lads, Iron Man 4, The Dawn of Spiderman will win a real award. 15th time's the charm!

>>80121014
>>80120946
You're both pathetic, shut the fuck up and enjoy Logan.

>>80121014
>Iron Man's replacement
???

>>80119748
>>80119649
Because if Nolan and Mangold could get pass while directing absolute POS like DKR and Wolverine there's no surprise when they get praised for something actually good, critics just like them and they hate Zack Snyder, he is modern Stanley Kubrick.

>>80121044
It's funny that you made the Marvel lad a shitskin when it's been proven that the DCEU is particularly succesful with minorities and latinos

>>80121068
Didn't you know? Dr. Strange was meant to become the new Tony Stark now that Disney can't afford to pay Downey's salary anymore, but it spectacularly backfired.

What are you talking about? We DChads love Deadpool and Logan, Fox are /ourguys/ all the way.

Gisnep not getting the rights back in our lifetimes and the Oscar are the best news of the year so far

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>>80121078
>critics just like them and they hate Zack Snyder, he is modern Stanley Kubrick.

>>80120944
>>80120927
No valid arguments so far.

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>>80121068

They were looking for a character to replace Iron Man because RDJ is pushing 50 and probably juicing again, also asking for a third of the production budget in salaries and then the movie looks like this

>>80121122
Because Snyder being a bad director is not an argument, it's a fact of life and the reason you're still a laughingstock.
Go on with the "not an argument" crap, or even better, quote the contrarian nigger faggot.

>>80120638
Yeah because the masses CAN'T possibly be wrong right?
This marveldrones are pathetic

>>80121139
why did you speed it up, anon?

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>>80120890
>Name 1 DCEU movie better than Iron Man
Man of Steel
>Name 1 DCEU movie better than Winter Soldier
Man of Steel
>Name 1 DCEU movie better than Civil War
Man of Steel

>>80121181
In this case it's both the masses and critical opinion. Keep crying.

>>80121181
They're not, they write history and define reality, you're pathetic and desperately contrarian, please turn 20 soon

>>80121139
>critically acclaimed action movie in the year of our lord 2016

Jesus christ

>>80121181
That's right anon, stupid sheeple liking those dumb Fox movies, only unique individuals like you like the REALLY good movies.

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>>80121083
Hi, Zach.

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>>80121208

Then the DCEU is fine

>>80121227
Yes, it has a good 7/10 movie, it'll be fine.

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>>80121210
>>80121139

>Oscar award winning film

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>>80119649
>>80119649
>>80119649

>>80121192

Is this even legal? Why is Marvel so artistically bankrupt?

>>80121167
Why everyone then trying to emulate his style then? From today's MCU's color down flicks and Christ imagery (like in Homecoming), to Logan (literally Dawn of the Dead style, even same Johnny Cash song in credits), even James Cameron says he is influenced by him. Now this is facts.

>>80120638
really activates my armonds

damn...

>>80121192
>>80121139

Why don't they just license their characters to Fox? It's clear they make nothing but shit and it's better to quit when you're still on your feet

>>80121260
And deservedly so.

>>80121280
Because they hire tv sitcom directors to do giant blockbusters.

>>80121298
>Snyder created muted colors and Christ imagery
DCucks, everyone

>>80121298
And here I thought Homecoming was ripping off Spider-Man 2.

>>80121324

As opposed to music video directors right? Take a giant step back and recognize how hypocritical you sound.

Is there anything more pathetic than capeshit fags arguing about their shitty ass movies?

>>80121380
Butthurt capeshit fags who pretend to be above it all to feel superior for once in their lives.

>>80121298

Don't forget the hiperstylized fight scenes in Daredevil, taken straight out of Old Boy and Snyder and it's the only thing that doesn't suck ass of Marvel tv. Even the creator said he was a Sinyder fan I think

>EVERYTHING DC DOES IS GOOD AND WILL ALWAYS BE GOOD AND MARVEL IS BAD PRAISE SNYDER FOR WE ARE HIS PROPHETS #JOINUSINTHESUN #DCHADS

>>80121192
This does not make either movie look good.

>>80121366
Huh? Snyder, Ayer, and Jenkins all made heavy hitting films before they got put onto superhero movies. Whedon and Russos HOWEVER...

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>>80119649
Will it ever end bros?

this is worse than 1st gen console wars

>look up what DCU won an Oscar for
>Scuicide Squad
Wat
>Best makeup
C...Congratulations. You must be so proud...

>>80119649
Is it sappier and more manipulative than Interstellar, though?

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>>80121326
>6 year gap of no Christ imagery in superhero movie since Spider-Man 3, until Man of Steel came
>all MCU flicks are acid-like colorful, until Man of Steel came
>those articles about how Man of Steel basically himself destroyed whole Metropolis, while Avengers saved everyone , then BvS announced -> r-remember how we said that Avengers saved everyone, w-well, h-here's some footage of how Hulk charged on that building and that killed someone

"It's a coincidence!" : said mcuck.

>>80121515
>Snyder created Christ imagery and muted colors, also I only watch superhero movies
DCucks, everyone

>>80119649
>this logic
>not understanding the film had Jackman/Stewart immunity

>>80121489
>C...Congratulations. You must be so proud...

14 movies and counting, not even make up awards

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>>80121394
It's also "coincidence" that producer of said grim-dark show also was in Trump team, just like DCEU producer. Literally /ourguys/ saving capeshit.

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MAKE UP IS A REAL OSCAR FAG

>>80121586

It is.

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>>80121398
This

>>80121585
>these are the lengths snyderdrones will go when trying to fit in
wew

Marvelfans - USA
DCfans - North Korea

think about it. One is gigantic, powerful, succesful, has money and everyone knows it is superior, yet the other one struggles to keep up and STILL has a gull to spew out how superior it is

>>80119732
I hope gavin MvInnes makes a video about it

>Oi this is Hillary porn! Little girls cant take armored soldiers on! This is unrealistic, why isn't she playing with dolls? This is so violent, I have three kids, I don't want to see children get stabbed!
>*farts into microphone*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxrC-DSG3oQ

How are you Marvel friends doing today? Feeling better yet? We're worried, please take care, suicide is NOT the answer

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Lets be honest. This is the only true capekino

>>80121640
ZERO OSCARS LMAO

>>80121705
>films only Americans like
I'll put it on the same trash heap with Interstellar and Arival.

>>80121654
Pretty good. Can't wait for GotG2, Spiderman and Infinity War! How are you doing DC bros? Looking forward to Wonder Woman and Justice League I imagine? Just kidding, I'm sure they'll be great! Have a nice day!

>>80121139
The shaky cam with the punches makes it seem like they would pack power but in reality she has no arm strength

>>80119732
>Armond White
>Is black
What did he mean by this?

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>>80121654
>dat DChad party with one autismal MCUck

>>80121776
>Second world trash thinks he can talk about movies for the first world
lol

>>80119649
I feel sorry for DC. Every fucking movie they make you can just tell it will flop from the trailer alone. It's as if they want to lose money. What are the actors' agents thinking?

>>80121887
But US is third world.

>antiDC shill thread
>immediatly backfires and the shills get BTFO by the regular folks of /tv/

Just like muh 2016 elections!

>>80121927
This triggers the burger

>>80121776
Indeed let's watch some superior european cinema

Hmmm, two lesbians realize they love somalian men, never saw this one before

>>80121927
Not until they're <50% anon

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>this whole thread

>>80121962
Ah, yes. Still 60%

>>80121776
>born in Europe
>live in Europe
>like The Incredibles

Theres an issue for you

>>80122015
>Europe
>mattering
"No."

>>80122015
Which country is this "Europe" you're talking about? I never heard of it.

>>80122053
It's a city in Russia.

>>80119769
So does /pol/. Same shit different smell.

>>80119849
Lol this film was shit. A clusterfuck with occasionally nice imagery. I don't need fucking sock puppets to explain 'my first Jesus symbolism' to me.
Snyder is pseudo-intelectual garbage that only works on the dumb that like to think they are smart.

>>80122206
>Not bathing in the shit periodically to gain immunity
lmaoing at ur lyfe

>>80121323
Not really. Unless you're being ironic and saying the Oscars are a heap of shit.

>>80121559
Are you retarded?

>>80121776
>Arrival
>bad

Did the female lead make you uncomfortable?

>>80120593
Judge Dredd is based on a comic book

>>80122259
I laughed. Thanks pham

>>80120705
>Logan
>Disney
lel

>make up in a movie where characters are literally defined by how they dress and the make up they wear is not relevant haha!
>t-those body sprayed aliens in that Star Trek movie no one saw deserved it too!

Easy with the sodium chloride cucks

>>80120825
Am I the only one that gives few shits about box office?

If I like a film, I like it

If I hate it, I hate it

I really don't care about box office, these films make such a shit ton of fucking money

>>80122253
>watching film and not reading literature
Kek

>>80121705

>Someone who hasn't seen unbreakable or Logan

>>80120890
> I think BvS (extended cut) was good
> it got a razzie
> Suicide Squad is a piece of garbage
> it got an Oscar
Please someone nuke Hollywood already

>>80119732
Based king of /tv/

>>80121323
>And deservedly so.
>For best costume
>against Star Trek
Are you mentally challenged ?

>>80119691
I hate all cap shit, mcu, dc or whatever, they are all shit by default. So are their fans.
That said: arguing with a meme oscar in makeup, something little girls do from the age of 13 onwards, is /v/irgin tier autism.

>>80121167
>Because Snyder being a bad director is not an argument
>receives praise from James Cameron
>DeKnight of Netflix DareDevil fame was inspired by him
>Dr. Strange's director even complemented him.
Next you'll probably say "B-But their movies are shit" as if an anon who discusses about capeshit directors late at night is an authority in the matter.

>>80119665
This

>that Oscar means nothing!
>but also I'm full autistic on Suicide Squad not deserving the Oscar

When did shills became so transparent?

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>>80122477
Is she wearing shoes? A convention floor would be riddled in germs.

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>>80121455
Nice MTV Award, queer.

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>>80121654
>>80121855
>its too loud
>i could be watching Jessica Jones/Luke Cage at home

>>80122477
>razzies
>meaning shit
do you pay for a 4chan pass too?

>>80122605
>/tv/ is one person
Back to >>>/pol/ with you where you can discuss the new pewdiepie video in peace

>>80122655
kek

>>80122477
This, if Suicide Squad had come out first BvS wouldn't have been panned as much as it was. Maybe like 10% higher on RT but that's better than nothing.

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>>80122655

>>80121791
You sound like a Sony fanboy on /v/ defending his stupid console with the disgusting weeb trash he is eagerly awaiting to masturbate his tiny penis to.

>>80121776
German here, who the fuck doesn't like Incredibles?

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>>80122655
>w-who cares about make up anyways

What I think is hilarious when looking towards the generally alt-right tinted DCU defense squad is that they share an ally in the likes of Kevin Smith.

>>80122568
James Cameron praised Genesys, he'll praise anyone for a paycheck.

>>80121654
Autism: the YouTube video

>>80119732
>Caring about what a nigger thinks
Kys

>>80122774
>he said something about someone or something I don't like.
>HE MUST BE BRIBED!
He endorses all of them because he's a businessman and not a fucking idiot. He's not Jim Carrey.

>>80122987
>He endorses all of them because he's a businessman
So he got paid for it, thanks for proving my point.

>>80123035
he makes money by shilling Terminator, he doesnt make shit by saying anything passively positive about Snyder.

>>80119732

>Another substanceless "I think the opposite of the general consensus" fill in the blanks ad-lib review from Armond White

It's like he has a set of templates for good and bad reviews and just needs to enter in the movie and character names.

Where can I get a job doing reviews like this for money? Half the time his reviews read as if he's only seen the trailer and read the wiki page, it seems like such easy money. I am legitimately jeaslous.

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>>80121646
>three kids
*nonwhite kids fyi

>>80119649
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Fox's movies stand or fall on their own merits because:

The Mouse, the Fox, and the Bunny.

The Mouse has discovered an unregulated (and unregulatable) monopoly - superhero IPs. For that reason, they are seeking to unite all "cape" characters under their umbrella. They can't touch the Fox, because the Fox can bite them in their plump rodent ass by holding Hope a hostage. That means the Fox's movies are allowed a fair judgement largely free of spin and rumor. The Bunny, on the other hand, enjoys no such protection, so anything that can be spun into a negative, no matter how small, will be by a corporate army of third-world shills and botnets in an effort to poison the well for the Bunny. These are billion dollar IPs, so if you think some Mousebucks aren't being channeled into this, that things like this don't happen, then it's you who's living in a fantasy world.

Want this to make more sense? Look up who owns the rights to "A New Hope" in perpetuity. If you need more dots connected than that, you're on your own.

>>80123571
>Want this to make more sense? Look up who owns the rights to "A New Hope" in perpetuity. If you need more dots connected than that, you're on your own.

more more please!

>>80123571
>Want this to make more sense? Look up who owns the rights to "A New Hope" in perpetuity. If you need more dots connected than that, you're on your own.

How Disney benefit from Fox's ANH?

>>80123642
Just look it up. If they fuck with the Fox, that means no Ultra Deluxe Digitally Restored Super Kino Remastered Star Wars Box Sets for the Mouse. All because of who owns the rights to the first film in the series, the one that started it all.

>>80123700
That's just it. They don't. They *can't*, not without Fox's willing cooperation. Fuck with them and they'd be perfectly within their rights just selling it back to Lucas. They could sell it for one dollar just for spite. If that doesn't strike you as some powerful protection from fuckery, I honestly don't know what would.

>>80122774
He is not a critic, and second if he ever wants to have a job in the industry you do not bad mouth movies that are not relevant or recent. There is a courtasy that movies have many moving parts and condemning it as a failure hurts the reputation of people that did good work despite the movie being labeled poor.

Yes the movie industry is slimey and has a mob mentality to it shutting down dissent; though I understand: the creation crew are spending other people's money and shit talking or failing to promote a movie is like a CEO not pursueing shareholder interests. Except in the CEO's case it is incredibly illegal to not attempt to be profitable.

>>80123571
>>80123727
>>80123770
your theory seems sound, but seems to fall apart when you factor Apocalypse's reception.

>>80123571

This is mostly undeniable but the Mouse is foolish to think WB will ever sell or even license DC's characters. DC's brand is valued at 4 billions even under a constant 24/7/365 smear campaign, that's what they paid for Star Wars and they haven't made the money back yet. WB will never sell and Disney will never buy.

On the other hand, marlel, while being succesful, is based on shit characters that can't really be rebooted because you can't make them be any better than what they are. Success and limited (in quantity or, in this case, quality) source material means you have only one shot and then it's over. That's what happened with the Lord of the Rings, that's three books being perfectly adapted, will never be rebooted and it's a dead franchise as we speak. Same thing with Marvel and Star Wars. Marvel comics are 100% trash, with notable exceptions the Mouse don't have the rights for. Once the MCU is over, and it will be over sooner rather than later, the franchise will be worth 0.00 dollars. DC, on the other hand, relies on some of the best stories in comtemporary western popular culture. Batman has been rebooted like 5 times, Superman three times. The Bunny will never sell, and the Mouse is on his way for a total wreckage, making nothing but billions on his way there

>>80122359
Nice reading comprehension, bud.

>>80123642
>>80123700

Welcome to the secret corporate war that spans the bulk of the 20th century. The Mouse and the Bunny have been bitter rivals for decades.

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>internet shills with no knowledge of film outside of blockbusters and maybe a few "essential" movies
>have no actual experience of film beyond the 80s
>no education on the medium
>see three-five movies a weeks
>thumbs up/high-rate at least three of them
>art films come out that are either throwbacks to older movies or actually challenge the conventions of their genre
>maybe even have an even-handed and objective message on a social/political issue
>shills shit on them
>""""""art"""""" film comes out
>adheres to genre expectations but is shot prettier than your average tv show
>only says things that are already said about a certain issue, often reinforcing the viewers' own opinion while providing nothing new
>"""""""""critics""""""""" give it seal of approval
>praises movies for cinematography that only blows up colors, some stylistic lighting, but rest of the movie is boring closeups
>praises movies for action despite the action being blurry and cut to shit so you don't see or feel a single blow unless the scene is completely CGI'd, also often in extreme closeups
>but these """"people""""'s opinions should be valid

>>80123826
And? Mickey has made his slice of the cheese wheel. Comics are dying, eventually they will lose all name power and cultural force when the bastions get tarred with a reputation for bad adaptation. The wheel is shrinking why gloat of being king of the babybell in the future?

>>80122774
Yeah remember when Trank shit talked his own movie on premier night? Notice you haven't heard shit from him since?

>>80119849
>Superman=Jesus
Yeah, how smart and compelling.

Cape shit in general is for faggots but looking at this logically:

DC fags are retards, scraping together anything to excuse the absolute shit fest of films they've released recently. They've been an absolute mess of writing, poorly acted, cringe-fests. When I see people unironically defending shit like BvS, I wonder if they're a child or a tendie eating autistic obese faggot.

Marvel fags are faggots for boasting movies that a literally designed to make money and nothing else, the writing is terrible, the characters extremely lack depth and the stories are a smidgen of substance. They are popular because they are made for audiences that would rate the Fast and Furious series as "good movies".

Logan is somewhat an exception, actually exploring characters on an emotional level, not pussying out on the kiddie level violence typical of Marvel shit fests and actually giving some brutality.

Still, the characters in Logan even lack depth.

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>>80122746
>DAD I WON AN AWARD
>Alright! I'm proud of you son. What did you win it for?
>MAKE UP!!!!

>>80124143
>i-it's a pity category!
>still couldn't win it.

>>80121298

Snyder is great with visual direction.

He is completely shit at every other part of the job.

If he was contained to a role just as Director of Photography everyone would be eagerly fellating his mad skillz but he just does a poor job as head honcho.

>>80119748
>People just can't admit that Snyder is a fucking terrible director.
I loved Watchmen though.

>>80123814
If it's good, it's good. If it's bad, it's bad. The important observation to make is that it's always been that way with Fox's properties. There's a conspicuous absence of spin. Go try to find "news" bashing their films while they're still in production.

You can find plenty for Sony and WB, though. Interesting, huh?

>>80123928
>>see three-five movies a weeks
Why would anyone watch so many movies in one week?

>>80123992
Yep. You didn't get it. Go watch "The Life of Brian" and get back to us.

>>80124281
HE HAS GIVEN US
A SIGN!

>>80124198

Watchman's strength was its source material. 300's was its stylisation.

Left to his own devices to direct and produce something new, Snyder fucks it up.

I've heard SS was hamstrung in editing but given their track record I dunno.

At the end of the day, Disney has built up some trust by releasing movies that at worst are entertaining but mindless. At worst. WB can't even make them entertaining.

Like seriously, the first time Bats and Supes are in the same movie together, and they shit the bed with the horrible mess of DoJ's nonsensical storyline *and* go for the death of Superman at the same god damn time? Holy shit man. Why. Just why. They literally blew their load, and now don't have anything to fall back on.

>>80124268
Ever since Ebert invented modern criticism it's been the practice for shills to watch a fuckton of movies

>>80119854

kick ass was the first movie I saw in theaters after my mental breakdown :-(

>>80124248
My favorite was the batman rumors with Matt Reeves.
>"Deal didn't fall through! DCon some suicide watch!
Deal is official
>"B-But no Battfleck!"
Ben literally tweets "welcome to that Batt cave"
>"I'm not seeing the camera crew or set directors, or anything. A-HA! Take that!"

>>80119732
Everywhere except the box office, instead DC calls it the Flop office

>>80124423
>DC
>Flop
Nice meme

>>80120890
To be fair
>Name one non studio meddled production in the MCU than the Fox movies

>>80124403
Exactly.

>>80120825

doctor strange was fucking garbage

and suicide squad was way worse but they spent way more in marketing, mainly pretending that batman/joker are in it for more than 2 minutes

>>80119665
welcome to reddit

>>80124403
The latest MCUck tactic is to see depression or alcoholism in whatever pic he takes to spread doubt now

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>>80121455
CANT WAKE UP
WAKE ME UP INSIDE
CANT WAKE UP
SOMEBODY SAAAAAAVE ME!

>>80124516
I unironically had much a much more enjoyable experience with SS than Doctor Stark

Why do MCUcks get so defensive here? Contemprary critics almost unanimously love your movies. What makes you guys insecure?

>>80124403

Best part of it is that this wasn't just shills on 4chan, those were the headlines of clickbait websites. Meaning that those guys are just as shills as our pakistani evanposter friends

>>80124570
>literally got what he wanted out of the bargain to be Batman
>"LE JUST"
The movie might've blown.m but he got to do his passion pet project with someone else's money

>>80124516
>they spent way more in marketing

Dr Strange had a chinese ad campaign and SS did not, so no, you're making shit up as usual

>>80121078
This is a shitpost too far anon. A person cannot think Snyder is the modern Kubrick while also being able to type

>>80124632
It blew up in his face, you mongrel. No more vanity projects for him.

>>80124634

its not even important theyre both shit fucking movies. at least dr strange was competently made to the marvel formula. SS was a mess and it amazes me people not only saw it but saw it multiple times and enjoyed it.

i think those people should be genocided

>>80124652
I hate when people unironically or ironically compare him to Kubrick

The styles are just too different
It's like saying Welles was similar to Tarkovsky

>be WB
>have superior capeshit universe
>have suprerior and iconic characters
>even one of them can literally made bil easily if movie is at least above average
>have all the hype
>have tons of fans
>have DCAU and MCU as examples of adaptations
>failed so hard that greatest capeshit team of all time is less wanted than reddit-squad of literally who
>movie about the most famous female superhero is already doomed
>even FUCKING BATMAN is struggles to be created
Is DCEU cursed by Snyder and Goyer or something?

>>80124654
Other critics lived through worse

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>>80120825

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>brand war shitposting
>>>/v/

I don't care about you faggots most of the time but when it comes to this, you are absolutely revealing yourself as insufferable teenagers. I don't give a shit about Xbox vs. Playstation and I don't give a shit about Marvel vs. DC.
Fuck off and kill yourselves.

>>80124674

Because movies like that are made to please the plebs. If you went to see Suicide fucking Squad at the theaters, you have no right to complaint about the movie. Either you knew what it was and went in anyways, or you didn't know and you're fucking retarded. Teenagers loved this shit, loved it. They dress up like the characters and were clapping their hands off when it won an Oscar. The movie succeed where Dr Strange, being "competent adhering to a formula" (this is a virtue somehow), was so bland and generic people can't even remember it. Suicide Squad was one of the biggest hits of the year, only behind Deadpool, and denying it only makes you look like a cuck

>>80124737
It's one more Oscar than your minders have, shill.

>>80124737

On the other hand Marvel's Oscars aren't real at all lmao

>>80124737
>still couldn't win it
>being this upset

>>80124718
It's cursed by the autism of fanboys honestly

Comicbook/superherofags are as bad as StarWars/Startrek fags regarding any changes to their preconceived expectations of the franchise, change anything important and they sperg out. The MCU works because it's audience-approved and takes absolutely no risk in order to maintain good relations with its fanbase. Everything in them does exactly what you expect it to do. Like the SAW franchise you know exactly what you're getting into. Only the capeshitfags are more pretentious, acting like their stuff is better than SAW or other "mediocre formulaic franchise" series.

So, how snyderfags will defend their shit now? I mean, we have really dark movie which was loved by critics and audience and also made 237 mill in box office despite fact it's rated R. It literally beaten snydershit in every category.

>>80124807
See>>80123571

>>80119649

They were able to digest and appreciate Logan due to the simplicity of the story. It's basically a modern western where he's just trying to escort someone to X while Y is chasing them. It's neither complicated, or depicting the main character in a way subversive way.

>>80124806
You are absolutely correct in every regard save one: fans can appreciate alternate takes on characters or when characters are being used as symbolic stand-ins; fanboys can't.

>>80121559
I can just imagine how you smell. The stench of bitter, five day old sweat, mixed with old semen from the many tissues piled up nearby. Your disgusting shrimp dick a biohazard after fapping every few hours whilst your marvel posters stare down at you in shame. You sweaty fat piece of shit.

>>80124888
It's literally Taken with Lone wolf & cub dynamic nor i.e. audiences been eating up since The Last of Us or TElltale's TWD

>>80124875
Disney literally shitting on X-Men in the comics to make their garbage Inhumans look good and to mes up with Fox, so you're wrong.

>>80124930

Damn got me to a t. Shame you guys can't get Oscars this easy

>>80121455
I HURT MYSELF TODAY

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>>80124985
TO SEE IF I STILL FEEL

>>80124936
Who cares about comics?

>>80125031
That isn't relevant to the topic. Thing is - Disney is trying to kill X-Men franchise really hard, and yeat, Logan is the most successful and good dark capeshit since Nolan. While Snyder failed so hard that two most iconic superheroes of all time is subject of jokes about Martha now.

>>80124936
Fox still has Original Trilogy Star Wars to barter with.

>>80121654
I just looked at this guy's other videos. He's cancer incarnate, pure /v/eddit trash.

>>80124979
>you guys
Implying I watch comic book garbage. Both universes are shit. Logan was a great stand alone film and a great film over all. Couldn't care less whether it's part of the marvel snore fest or the dc shit show

>>80125104
> Couldn't care less whether it's part of the marvel snore fest or the dc shit show
But it's not part of either.

>>80119732
Goddam based Armond, why can DC stop winning

>>80123826
>that's what they paid for Star Wars and they haven't made the money back yet
kek

>>80124718
No, Alan Moore cast his wizardry on the whole project becuase Snyder made watchmen into a movie.

>>80125077
>implying mouse care
SW garbage will make money no matter what. SW fanboys is the most loyal and will eat EVERY shit under this brand.

Me and my friend just saw it today, she was reluctant because she thought the r rating was just "deadpool level" with unseen tits and blood and limbs getting cut, then she saw Laura and Logan getting harpooned, an audible "what the fuck" was heard. She also cried during the farm and forest parts. A good movie.

>>80125068
Except you're retarded and wrong.they are still making comics for x men. Try again

>>80125257
Read my previous post, you mong.

>>80125172
>BvS is a FLOP!
>but anon, it brought in almost 900 million
>they wanted it to make more!

>SW will always make money for Disney
>they could make even more with all the rights
>irrelevant!

Double standard much?

>>80125311
Yeah, they're running 3 different Resurection series like blue and Gold, just for the Inhumans to shit on them. The fuck out of here with your dumbass

>>80125318
Why did you even brought BvS here? Ofc it's not a flop. It has two most iconic capeshit heroes of all time and literally "Ticketbait the movie" in the title. Even if my dog directed this, it would made money.
Anyway, Fox survives under Disney opression and makes successful movies who loved by people, while DCEU making dark-filtered marlel-like shit.

>>80125383
>I don't understand how industry works
wew son

So, the consensus is as follows:

>logan is decent but overhyped, the r-rated gimmick is getting old by the second movie
>marlel is absolute trash but have a strong presence in the internet and they can buy hype and carry smear campaigns against DC
>DCEU is absolute trash but /ourguys/ because they are the underdog and how much they are BTFOing shills with their natural Dr Strange crushing and Oscar winning habilities

Am I missing something?

>>80119649

>It's a house of the mouse gets double teamed by Fox and WB and BTFO episode

Enjoy your avengers fisticuffs kiddos

>>80125436
Pretty corrent, except DCEU is not /our guys/. Who the fuck would want to associate themselves with pathetic losers?

>>80125436
All three of your statements are bait/10.

>>80125436
No, the consensus is that Logan is god-tier and you should go fuck yourself

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>>80125550
First for based Caliban.

Beware the light, motherfuckers.

>>80125666
Tell me about Caliban. Why does he wear the mask?

>>80125693
Because if he takes it off, it will be extremely painful.

>>80125318
they didn't want it to make more tho
they needed it to make more based on the amount they put in
it actually cost the studio a few hundred million in losses

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>>80119649
>he's in his 20s
>he's still watching flicks about "superheroes"

Fucking pathetic. I bet you still sleep in a bed that looks like a fucking car.

>>80125748
And I bet you sleep in a big bed with your wife's bull.

>>80124632
Yet he let them butcher it in the editing.

>>80125740
Based off totally unsubstantiated speculation that you're only just ever so willing to accept as fact. If you applied the same metric to every franchise, the overwhelming majority of MCU films are also "flops."

>>80125778
Ben has no power left. He's slowly realizing his life and soul are forfeit.

>>80119649
>serious superhero movies

lol. grow up manchild

>>80125788
okay sure definitely

>>80125766
Anon there's no need to be upset.

I'm not disappointed, just watch a better movie next time.

>>80125788
>>80125809
wait according to wikipedia and these sources apparently $800 million was invested into it, so while it recuperated its losses, it didn't bring in near the money they wanted to make the investment worthwhile

http://www.thewrap.com/batman-v-superman-wont-be-joining-1-billion-box-office-club/
https://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/?toURL=https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2016/04/15/box-office-as-batman-v-superman-tops-800m-global-a-look-at-one-big-advantage-marvel-had-over-dc/
http://flavorwire.com/570473/warner-brothers-has-taken-exactly-the-wrong-message-from-the-box-office-disappointment-of-batman-v-superman

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>>80125795
Based Ben was in two of the best action flicks of 2016, and he killed it in both of them.

>>80125867
That first article alone is so rife with weasel words, I couldn't make it past the first three paragraphs.

>>80126071
well that's a shame because it refutes your point

>>80126129
Let me demonstrate what I'm talking about.

Does your mom smoke the big bull cock? While she says she's in a happy monogamous relationship with your dad, certain insiders paint a slightly more complicated picture.

>>80121640
>One is gigantic, powerful, succesful, has money and everyone knows it is superior
>USA
you yanks really are hilarious with how much you live in a bubble. If I didn't know you were American, id be confident thinking you were a child with this statement

>>80126162
mkay but does that make batman v superman a financial success

>>80126165
Wait, are you saying America ISN'T superior to North-Korea? Kim pls go and stay go.

>>80126229
Despite her claims, certain industry experts (who shall remain conveniently nameless) estimate she might have ingested as much as 15 gallons of semen over the course of last month alone, an astonishing figure that we will substantiate in no way whatsoever.

>>80126253
thats a poor strawman you got there

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>>80119649

>>80121505
Except for the very last 2 minutes it's not really manipulative, character deaths happens in the tone of the movie, so nobody dies really a "glorious sadly death", they simply get killed and die then. Logan is extremely grim and dark and make almost no exception with killing sympathetic characters or the bad guys.

>>80125867
>$800 million

And Reeves wasn't directing The Batman and Affleck was leaving altogether yada yada. Fake news from "insider sources".

Actually
http://ir.timewarner.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=70972&p=quarterlyearnings

So it's now official and 100% certified true, those insider sources were bullshit and all those articles were fake news. I mean, this is as confirmed as it will ever be, WB made 1.7 billions net profit in 2016 and most of it came from the DCEU. Little room to argue, the DCEU is a massive financial success. So you exposed more Disney smear campaign with those articles anon, congratulations

>>80126290
so that's a no right

>>80126316
well i ain't saying the dceu was a financial success, i'm saying batman v superman wasn't

>>80126307
>anon talks about two countries
>refers to one as being superior to the other
>other anon denies this
Where's the strawman?

>>80122568
Do we speak about the same James Cameron who directed horrible written garbage like "Avatar" and praised "Genysis"?

>>80126379
I apologise. I thought you/he referred to everyone as the rest of the world.

Logan is liked because it is a good movie with a good script and strong performances throughout.
It shares its existence with a schizophrenic franchise when it comes to tone and quality, ranging from laughable schlock to the mediocre and the decent, but is far from dependant to it, featuring enough cross over appeal to win over people who are more into good movies than they are into any brand loyalty.

The Marvel flicks live on by being decent. They've got the formula to a science by now so they know how to make crowdpleasers that don't leave much behind, but are guaranteed to bring people already invested into the theatres. This will fly at least until the two Avengers movies are over, but they'll have to change their tune and adapt to what other smaller successes are doing if they want to keep people wanting more, because beyond some surface nuances, things are running the danger of becoming stale. But love 'em or hate 'em, brilliant business model by building the brand to be like their actual comic books where you have to buy another title if you want to get the whole overarching plot, or know more about a character.

The DCU on the other hand, well, you guys can stick your thumb in your ears all you want and yell reddit, shills, payed reviews or whatever. But post Dark Knight, their problems have mainly been terrible, hacked together by writers hired in competition with one another scripts, and a director that's always been pretty lousy at subtlety and those quiet character driven moments most of us require to be able to relate or care about what's happening on screen. And I'm sorry, but as long as that guy or the likeminded people working with him are in charge of DC's vision, it's simply isn't going to compare to the best, or even the average standard that other capeshit has put forward, no matter how many on the nose visual Christ metaphors he manages to fit in each scene.

>>80126357
So your mom's not going to address these serious allegations? Seems shady to me, anon.

>>80126534
and you ain't addressing my allegations either bro
so this ain't goin anywhere

>>80126566

>>80126316 already did. You just chose to disregard it.

>>80126516
I don't disagree with you completely, but I feel like the moments you're talking about are present in the DC films, just conveyed more by visuals than by dialogue in a lot of cases.

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The trouble with DCucks is that they genuinely seem to believe that they see things in these movies that other people don't. In reality, we're all quite aware of the sometimes gorgeous imagery and the impossible-to-miss Christian allegories. The problem is not that these movies are devoid of any kind of artistry, it's that they fail at the most basic and fundamental levels before you even begin to ponder such things. It's no good painstakingly adding mirrored symbolism and religious motifs if can't keep characterizations consistent or character motivations coherent.

Say what you like about Marvel and their perceived artistic inadequacies, but they always get the basics right and never produce a mess the way the DCEU tends to.

>>80126610
terribly sorry, but i did reply
i'm just talking about bvs not the universe
i know the universe is profitable
i'm saying that
>BvS is a FLOP!
>but anon, it brought in almost 900 million
>they wanted it to make more!
framing "they wanted it to make more" as an invalid response isn't valid, because they sure as hell did want it to make more
it absolutely made a fuckton of money
just didn't make enough for the investment to be fully worthwhile

>>80126610
If those visuals were tied to better scripts and featuring a director that's better at subtly building up a cohesive whole instead of just focusing on every scene in a moment to moment fashion, like he's directing a string of trailers, then we'd already have something god tier by now. My biggest gripe with the DCU and Snyder in general is that it would take so little to make this shit into something good: Actual comic book persons in charge or at least consultants to the overall vision for example (getting Geoff Johns on board is at least a little too late attempt to remedy that), not go all retarded in how they force the screenwriters to work and maybe getting Snyder a co-director to handle all of the "human" stuff.

>>80125734
He's a big Guy.

>>80126840
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>>80126313
Still more oscars than the MCU, faggot

>>80127070
Do you care, faggot? Because no one else here does.

>>80127107
Cuck

>>80126943
I love you Anon :')

>>80121951
>Hmmm, two lesbians realize they love somalian men, never saw this one before


Lol too true

>>80121181
In fact, it's more likely that they can't be RIGHT than they can't be wrong when it comes to high art.

>>80127107
>I haven't read the thread but I'm going to shitpost anyways

Classic Marvelcuck

>>80121851
Master who owned his grand-grandparents was funny guy

>>80119854
You're also a pedophile

>>80121776
French here. Incredibles is great

>>80126728
what is this from> what he fuck it looks nice

>>80122655
kek'd

>>80127557
Thor: The Dark World

it's also better then any disney marvel movie thats ever come out yet I see retards on this board still say sony and 20th century should all sell back to marvel

yeah there's a lot of shit inbetween (x-men origins wolverine, x-men apocalypse) but when it's good its way better then marvelshit

quality movie>quantity of descent movies

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>>80127557
Thor 2, The only good scene in the franchise.

>>80127616
>>80127662
Looks good, thanks.

>company wars thread
>still alive

When did /tv/ fully turn into /v/? Who the fuck cares about a kiddie comic book movie?

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>>80127681
>>80127662

All 3 Thor movies are underrated and good.

I find them to only get better from the first.

3>2>1

BvS was not a serious movie, though


It was a pantomime melodrama.

>>80127902
Welcome, time traveller.

>>80121515
>Because of the cancerous concept that MoS added to the superhero movie equation, when Superman was shown doing such a shit job that people had to move the goalposts and give him credit for saving the entire world's population twice because actually watching the movie leaves the impression that there was a shitload of people getting killed, which was confirmed by the director himself, I am choosing to ridicule the MCU for acknowledging the concept of loss of life that lingered to every facet of the genre following MoS than MoS itself and it's Watchmen boner fueled director who thought it was a great idea to add deconstruction to a movie that was meant to be a boiled down mass market summation of the character that represents everything deconstruction seeks to subvert
Fuck you. MoS views like a Superman origin story produced by Lex Luthor, but Snyder gets a pass because he says Superman is his favorite character despite the fact the people lie.

>>80125914
>and he killed it in both of them
We know. There was a pile of corpses from the beginning of his "redemption" that began with Superman's mommy having the same name as his.

>>80119732
>National Review

>>80126728
Reminder that this is [Unsoliscited opinions on israel???] guy from the comics

>>80119649
>logan isn't a deadpool-tier quipfest

>>80127902
>Alex Ross still wasting his talent on fucking marlel

that hurts more than all the shill reviews on rotten memetoes

>>80119732
/ourguy/

>>80121139
>also asking for a third of the production budget in salaries and then the movie looks like this

It has to be the salaries right? i watched civil war and couldn't ignore the underwhelming CGI.It wasn't like this before.

>>80122558
Ledger got best supporting actor tho

>>80119732
Does he also talk about how it is a post-9/11 Obama film?

>>80126734
The "universe" of which you speak consists of a whole three films at this point. If 2016 was a profitable year for them, then your sources have some of their figures wrong. It's just that simple.

>>80124281
>go watch monty python's heavy criticism of religion so you can come back and jerk off to znyder's epic religious imagery with us

What did he mean by this?

>>80119665
>posting on capeshit thread just to tell them to go to reddit

>>80121776
>it's another "sandnigger trying to shit on america" episode

>>80121776
>american superheroes films are bad

I guess you like Poo In the Loo Man the best, yeah?

>>80121380
but logan was kino

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>>80121776
kys pajeet

>>80127809
More than half the world population, senpai besides these aren't marketed towards kids

>>80119732
Oh Oh so its actually good.

>>80124737
>there is a single autist who constantly makes these sub par memes and obsesses over marvel v DC company wars on 4chan

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>Logan wuz kino!!

Plebs are easily manipulated by heavy shock value. No wonder people who typically defend marvel movies think logan is high art.

>>80131880
What's the matter Armond, not enough buff sweaty men posturing in front of the camera?