Place your bets, how many episodes until the new Star Trek: Discovery

>supposed to debut in January
>Bryan Fuller dropped
>unprecedented, insane pricing scheme by CBS All Access
My bet is that it never happens

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It also features the ugliest ST ship ever.

>>80009132

I guess so. The plot looks even worse than Enterprise: the Federation is at war with the Klingons, the USS Discovery is part of the task force but there's a ship from the future the USS Shenzhou which is trying to stop the war.


Shit even Enterprise plot was less retarded

>>80009233
Serious question: why won't the powers that be make something that Star Trek fans actually want rather than always trying to create a new fanbase based on the most recognizable elements of the IP?

I don't even consider myself a fan anymore, since the rightsholders have proven that they do not care about my dollars.

I'm an ex-fan.

How many episodes are even planned?
I thought this was just a miniseries

>>80009365

Zero.

STD is a psyop designed to enrage a certain segment of society.

>>80009322

Because they don't care, why would they destroy all the previously set canon with each new show if they even gave a fuck about the lore itself? Basically people who don't care get the show, take three or four recognizable aspects of the Star Trek universe and create an entire new story line which contradicts or overwrites everything.

>>80009365

13 basically a modern short season.

>CBS
not even once

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>>80009078
Are you still complaining about blacks, in a multi-racial/special federation of planets in the Star Trek universe?
Fuck, is water wet too?
>/tv/'s favorite patrician is Sisko
>a black man

>>80009519
*specieal

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>>80009400

>>80009519
There are characters who happen to be black and black characters. Learn the difference.

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>>80009600
You want there to be a difference here. You want your race politics to be a thing to get mad at.
>Star Trek has female captains
>non-human captains
>black captains
>white captains
>Native American officers
>Klingons
>even Borg-recovered officers
You are a snowflake, anon.

>>80009078
1 season

>>80009600
>being black, can't be a part of a character's identity because I said so

>>80009642
You are correct, but there is absolutely no excuse for a Muslim character other than it being the current year

>>80009686

Enjoy your one season :) I don't think BuzzFeed and Tumblr demographics are into Star Trek.

>>80009686
But being white can't be a part of a character's identity. That's the problem, fucknut.

>>80009642
>>80009686
When the entire character literally revolves around that character being black or gay or Trans with almost no other substance, they are a shitty character. So yeah, the anon is right, a character that happens to be black is different from a character that revolves around being black.

>>80009717
Why? Chakotay was Native American.

>>80009723
Thanks /pol/, at least I fundamentally know what Star Trek is about.

>>80009771
Well, I haven't seen the show yet. So I will schedule my sperg out and breakdown when I actually have material to criticize.

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>>80009686
The premise of a black character still having a racial chip on his/her shoulder in the Star Trek universe is batshit. That dumb episode of DS9 proves it.

Star Trek portrays a future where humanity's petty issues (religion/race/etc) are long past. Moral allegories are done with stories involving aliens.

>>80009519
>>80009642

Literally race b8ing

>>80009857
Well, let's actually watch the fucking show first before we go off to our safespace then.

>>80009801
And he was one of the worst characters in all the ST shows combined precisely because his whole point was being a native American. He had no essence nor gravitas.

>>80009875
Literally how? By telling you to grow the fuck up and stop being a sensitive flake over blacks in a science fiction show?

>>80009905
You can be annoyed that he was Native American I guess, that made more sense than other things to cling to due to events in TNG. The Native Americans had in-universe reasons to exist. So that wasn't plot breaking. To say he was an objectively bad character is being obtuse though.

>>80009855
Honestly I took that anon to be commenting on characters in general, rather than star trek specific. But I'm with you anon, waiting and hoping that discovery might be a pretty decent series, esp after JJ's movies.

>>80009932
Nice strawman.

What it means to be progressive has radically changed since the 90s/60s.
People are worried that this will negatively effect the show.
It's not hard to understand even though I don't share the concern.

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>>80009932

>>80009724
I think you have reasonable answers as to why,

>>80010025
There aren't any

I hope this goes full retrofuturist 60's raygun gothic because it's the only way this is going to work

Just like how Rogue One went full 70's

>>80010010
>What it means to be progressive has radically changed since the 90s/60s.
Not really...you are probably just sensitive. This may not be the board for you.

>>/pol/

>>80010046
Well...there are. But this seems like a hot button topic for you. I don't want to be yelled at about muh white genocide in an hour down the road.

>>80010018
I'm mad because you are a snowflake?

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>>80010103
>>80010127

>>80010229
Right....

>>80010264
Another stunning point

>>80010287
You aren't a fan of criticism, are you?

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>>80010309
> thinks he's smart
> he doesn't know the difference between criticism and an insult

>>80009801
Because at the risk of sounding like a fedora tipping atheist, Star Trek has always been about a future where mankind has abandoned religion.

>>80010411
Like I said earlier, Native Americans have an in-universe excuse for being relevant.

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>>80009169
LOL even the ship can't be white.

>>80010402
You are literally complaining and acting like a sensitive retard though. No amount of damage control and Trump memes are going to change that.

Sad.

>>80009233
Isn't that just fan speculation, not the actual plot?

>>80010482
I'm talking about muslims

>>80010627
Well who knows? Maybe it is explained well? I dont know..

>>80009686
YO

HOL UP

YOU SAYIN'
*smacks lips*
YOU SAYIN'
WE WUZ CAPTENS AND SHIEEEEEET?

>>80010687
Wrong board

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>>80010531


it's pretty much leaked production info, so 90% chance that'll be the plot.

They've also changed the appearance of Klingons pic related

>>80011331

What in the fuck they made the Klingons look like Remans?

Not sounding good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km5qVwZvjm8

>>80009169
That's not the ship

That's some genius Klingons trying to disguise a Warbird as the Enterprise to sneak into Federation space

>>80011331
How exactly do you know those are Klingons?

>>80011553
Forehead ridges

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>racisms still thing after we achieved interstellar travel

Bullshit

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>>80011331
Leaked where?

What's your source?

>>80011553

The production itself labelled them as Klingons. Also some of the actors with speaking roles who will play Klingons confirmed it

http://eclipsemagazine.com/meet-star-trek-discoverys-klingons/

>>80011485
That's the USS Discovery

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/USS_Discovery_(NCC-1031)

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>>80009078
>none of the original TV showrunners working on it
>series producer not a fan and thinks Star Trek and Star Wars are the same
>will not be using prime universe ship designs instead will go for JJ Abrams designs
>funded almost exclusively with Netflix bux and Netflix is already wanting out of the project

>>80011662
Lies

Klingon propaganda

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>>80011611
>adults unironically talk like this to other adults

>>80011628
Where's your source?

Nothing in that article says that the Klingon characters will have that makeup.

>>80011663
Fuller wrote for voyager he left the production iirc though

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>>80011573
Oh right, that narrows it down.

>>80011703
Tell me about your ingenious memespeak then you NEET faglord

I hope this shit never fucking flies or gets slammed so fucking hard after 2 episodes they don't air shit

Or the CBS access numbers are so garbage they drop it because Netflix will end up ahead in gib monies

Goddamit. They should have just made a Kelvin-Universe series. With some good stories, the masses would warm up to it. The cameos would be easier, too.

>>80011847
Why do you want that.

>>80011331
makes me think of a lethean more than a klingon

>>80011858
Kelvin universe is shit.

>>80011829
I don't talk like a fag
I don't add useless emojis to everything
I don't add silly shit like "hahahaha" or "lol" to messages
those things legitimately annoy me

>>80011892
>I don't talk like a fag
Then why does your post have improper capitalization and punctuation?

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>>80011611

>>80009078
I don't think non-network TV shows work that way.

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>>80011872
>Why do you want that

>the leaks
>the setting
>the designs
>the cast
>the production crew
????
Did you get dropped on your head as a child?

>>80011923
this is a internet forum not a essay

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>>80011611
and concept art of those aliens labeled "Klingon Captain" note the tentacle hands and feet.

>>80011942
Now read the image in >>80011611 to see what's wrong with your """source""".

>>80011923
Hes right,most fags I know care about basic grammar.

>>80011964
Not a fan of Doug Jones or Nick Meyer?

>>80011942
That post is asking you for a source on >>80009233, which apparently you pulled out of your ass.

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>>80011976
So an actor has no idea what species he's playing. Bullshit. We know that the people behind Star Trek now will straight up lie to cover leaks like when that woman in Star Trek Into Darkness said that Benadryl Custardbath was Khan then they denied it and surprise he turned out to be Khan.

also this >>80011968

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>>80012003
just not a fan of this shitshow CBS is cranking out

everything is wrong

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>>80011892
Then you are a triggered fuck. I bet your phone has all your reddit reaction pics that your normie friends "just don't get", right?

>>80012083
So Nicholas Meyer sucks then? Doug Jones, Michelle Yeoh, Joe Menosky, they all suck too?

I agree that some things are wrong, but calling "everything" wrong just outs you as some chickenshit chicken little.

>>80011964
You aspies need to calm down. None of those leakes were double confirmed at all.

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>>80012124
>>80012121
fine, ill gladly have egg on my face when this comes out and somehow im proven wrong that this is "good" "television"

but boy you better own up you're cumdumpsters if it all goes to warp speed fuck you

>>80011967
>not a essay
Neither is >>80011611. But I guess it's okay when you type like a Pakled because you're a special snowflake who shouldn't be held to the standards of everybody else.

>>80012072
>So an actor has no idea what species he's playing.
He isn't playing anybody in that photo since he's, y'know, the person taking that photo.

>>80012221
your excuses are pathetic, go tell your bosses at CBS that we don't buy it.

>>80012244
>DUDE everyone is a paid shill LMAO
Or maybe the dude doesn't actually know what aliens those are, and they just reminded him of Klingons.

>>80012164
I didn't claim that it's "good" television. I'm disputing your claim that "everything is wrong".

I expect parts of it to be good and parts of it to be bad, not 100% good and not 100% bad. Is that so unreasonable an expectation?

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>>80012269
I notice how you've continued to dodge this >>80011968 in the hopes you can con a few more CBS All Access subscriptions before more fans learn the truth. You really must have a loathsome view of humanity to think so little of our intelligence Mr. CBS Shill Man. That's not what Star Trek is about at all. It's about humanity's capacity for greatness but clearly just don't understand that.

>>80011968
>>80012377
That's concept art from the TOS movies, you dumb crybaby.

http://tumblr.theyboldlywent.com/post/140697217184/when-robert-fletcher-found-out-that-the-klingons

This is your opportunity to apologize to every person that you duped with your lies.

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>mfw I'm content with rewatching TNG for decades while naive plebs continue to have their hopes crushed by terrible new trek

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>>80012403
So according to this tumblr after the Klingons had been redesigned for TMP that for ST:III they would be resigned again with tentacle hands and feet. Again bullshit. Trek Yards identified it as ST:D concept art and I would believe those super fans over tumblr any day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FCaRwfspik

>>80012469
So DS9 and Voyager were terrible?

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>>80012469
>posting SD TNG
hypocrite

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>>80012377
Please, fucking stop posting this cringe

>>80012509
TNG is objectively the best Star Trek has ever been or ever will be.

>>80012497
>DS9
too plot heavy, makes for a bad rewatch value
>Voyager
terrible, yes

>>80012494
>So according to this tumblr
It's according to the definitive book on Star Trek costumes.

https://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Costumes-Decades-Frontier/dp/1608875180/

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>>80012552
I don't disagree and my post was mainly pointing out that you posted an old ass DVD/VHS rip screenshot of TNG (Standard Definition) instead of the new hotness blurays.

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>>80011923

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>>80012538
still not proving me wrong.

>>80012579
the image in question is not found anywhere in that link, try again shill

>>80012622
>Images scanned from the excellent Star Trek Costumes: Five Decades Of Fashion From The Final Frontier.

>>80012649
and I provided a source saying otherwise, what's your point?

>>80012269
>DUDE everyone is a paid shill LMAO

You're doing the fairest imitation of a shill, friend-o.

He even gave an excellent example and I remember that stupid "leak" (still think that was more modern-day street marketing)

>>80012615
The series is meant to be seen in SD.
I don't want to look at the acne on Wesley's face

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>>80012664

>>80012615
>you
Different anon

>>80012561
>DS9 is too plot heavy
Are you actually underage?

>>80012660
You didn't provide a source though.

Where is the leak for >>80011968? Where did your YouTube channel find it?

>>80010056
Yes, really.

90s was about the first woman in charge, first Asians here doing this thing, more blacks.

Now, all of that is the rule or punishment awaits.

>>80012662
>He even gave an excellent example
They have a piece of concept art from the TOS movies, and they gave it a filename of "Discovery Concept Art" to fool gullible 4channers.

"""Excellent""" example.

>>80009889
>fuck everything I said, you all beat me, again, for the 50th fucking time so now I'm relegated to my final point, "it hasn't aired yet, let's just wait with our 6.95 a month in hand, anons, me so sorry"

>>80012796
Wrong post then.

I was talking about the Cumberbatch leak about him playing Khan.

>>80012874
Well, fuck JJ Abrams then.

Fortunately, JJ is not involved with STD.

>>80012903
>Fortunately, JJ is not involved with STD.

Actually, he was involved almost from the beginning and CBS green-lit the series based on the success of the JJ movies.

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>>80012752
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FCaRwfspik
@21:45
>This was released by Ian McLean
stexpanded.wikia.com/wiki/Ian_McLean
>Apparently this was an unused production design from early on "supposedly unused".
>I'm looking at this picture here, I see a very similar shape in the head, they have almost tentacles.
>and the armor itself is very reminiscent.
>You'll notice the hands and the feet are also like squid-like appendages
>Now I don't think we can see it in the Instagram photo, if they've changed the Klingons to have squid-like appendages then I'll be really, really annoyed.
>but you can see the similarities between this production drawing, which says Klingon Captain on it by the way and the Klingons that we saw yesterday.
>I'm going to cry Samuel

>>80013010
Where is their source for this claim?

Where is Ian McLean's leak of that image?

>>80012974
JJ isn't a writer for STD, nor a consultant, nor a producer, nor an executive, nor is he involved in any other official capacity.

I don't think "they were inspired by his money-making skills" really counts as being involved.

If a major studio is pushing it hard enough, I give it two seasons.

If a major studio isn't basically bankrolling this shit, one season.

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>>80013026
>I'll just ignore how they compared the similarities in design for both the heads and uniforms and say "w-well how could this guy whom you provided a link for his star trek wikia page describing how heavily involved he's been involved with Star Trek for 37 years get a leaked image?"
You sure showed me.

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>>80012764
So progressivism ended conveniently once your balls dropped? You honestly believe that "well, that's it. Nothing to fight for anymore, that's how it works!", like there is a meter? Or a cap? Are you retarded?

>>80012809
Different anons are talking to you and calling you stupid

>>80012764
>IT IS DIFFERENT NOW BECAUSE SHUT UP THAT'S WHAT MY UNCLE SAID MAGA

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>>80013146
he's right, the future will be more like lexx with bondage outfits and sexual deviancy across the universe

>>80009078
I liked midnight's edge analysis on this series' production so far. doesn't look too good. Especially when there is executive meddling involved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km5qVwZvjm8&t=4s

>>80013193
and that is a bad thing?
>inb4 muh moral degeneracy don't masturbate reeeeeeee

>>80013137
According to your "Fandom" wikia article, he is only involved with fandom, not production.

Now please, do yourself a favor, and actually Google the image that you posted. You'll get results from early 2016 talking about that image as TOS movie concept art.

It predates the existence of your """leak""".

How were people talking about that image before it existed? Wait, I know, it turns out you were just misinformed and it's not actually from STD.

>>80013257
If was really from the movies then there would be results going all the way back to the 1990s or earlier, that there "coincidentally" started being posts about this picture at the same time ST:D was in preproduction proves nothing.

>>80013305
The book didn't come out until 2015.

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>this thread
i dont even know what's being shit flung anymore, too much greentext and paraphrasing and "proof" posting

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>>80012494
>ST:D

>>80013340
It comes down to whether or not you're willing to take people at their word.

>some extra: "Here's a photo of some Klingons. Just kidding, they remind me of Klingons but I don't actually know what they are."
One side says that he's telling the truth.
The other side says that CBS is forcing him to lie.

>some blog with a photo in 2016: "Here's some TOS concept art."
>some blog with the same photo in 2017: "Here's some STD concept art."
One side says that the 2017 blog is misinformed.
The other side says that the 2016 blog is paid shills intentionally spreading misinformation.

With no way for both sides to compromise, you should expect to see the argument continue until the series is actually released, and possibly beyond.

>Bryan Fuller
It will be cancelled for sure.

>people are actually complaining about liberal politics on fucking star trek
Am I taking crazy pills or are people really this fucking stupid?

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>>80009519
Janeway was a better captain than Sisko or Cuckard

>>80013538
He already left. Maybe it's time to post the copypasta again.


Official True Facts Copypasta for Star Trek: Discovery [version 0.9.2]

The Good
>created by Bryan Fuller
>Rod "my father is a shitbag" Roddenberry producing
>Nicholas Meyer (Star Treks II, IV and VI) in the writers' room
>Joe Menosky (Darmok and other classics) in the writers' room
>Doug Jones as a science officer on the USS Discovery
>Anthony Rapp as another science officer on the USS Discovery
>Michelle Yeoh as a recurring character and the captain of another ship, the USS Shenzhou
>airing on Netflix worldwide (except in America and Canada)

The Neutral
>Sonequa Martin-Green as the executive officer (and lead character) of the USS Discovery
>James Frain as Young Sarek
>Terry Serpico as a Starfleet Admiral
>Maulik Pancholy and Sam Vartholomeos as recurring characters on the USS Shenzhou
>some Klingons on another ship are recurring characters
>TOS era
>delayed until Fall 2017
>but at least they finally started filming in January

The Bad
>Bryan Fuller has left, saying "I’m not involved in production, or postproduction"
>Alex Kurtzman producing
>Akiva Goldsman producing
>first episode on TV, then all subsequent episodes only on CBS All Access (in America)
>a fucking prequel

That's it. That's all we know about STD. Everything else is rumors and guesses.

>>80013660
A young black female captain? I thought you guys were just kidding all the time. Lmao

>>80013146

This is just a bad post all around. It doesn't even address the points made from the post and it uses a strawman as a way not to point out that almost every major network left in television will not fund projects that aren't unilaterally leftist friendly.

>>80009078
CBS must be scared shitless because these threads attract their shills like white on rice and I just want to talk honestly about Trek.

STD threads are not Star Trek friendly.

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>>80013565
>Janeway was a better captain than Sisko or Cuckard

My fucking person of color right here.

Jane'sway or the Highway and there's no roads in space so outta the way Hirogen fuckin shits, Im loaded with coffee and it's that time of month.

>>80014000
Correction: A young black female first officer.

They haven't announced the Captain of the Discovery yet.

>>80014095
Well if it's really the lead character then it might be just as bad. In before the captain is some old white man with an orange wig.

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>>80014024
>This is just a bad post all around
Because you don't agree with it.
>It doesn't even address the points made from the post
Yes it does. Anon thinks that progressive movements exist in some sort of finite vacuum where there is an "endgoal".
>every major network left in television will not fund projects that aren't unilaterally leftist friendly.
Fuck off with youe dumb boogeywoogey. You know this isn't even remotely true. You just want it to be for your retarded meme. "WAHHH IT DA BIG BAD LEFTUES FAULT NOBODY WANTS MY SHOW WAHHH". It is about quality and what people want to watch, keeping in mind that most of the fucking first world is overwhelmingly liberal and may not give a shit for...whatever a conservative television show look like. So,a televangelist program? Idk what you would want.

Is that you, Sam?

>>80013563
/pol/ is that stupid. I guess they would be happy with some Reagan captain who called all the aliens he met with "space niggers" and never allow women on his ship.

>>80014044
You realize that there probably aren't ever actual shills on 4chan, right?

>>80014044
>I just want to talk honestly about Trek
Then start doing it.

Calling everybody who disagrees with you a "shill" is not talking honestly.

>>80014189
>/pol/ is that stupid.
lol why must you bullhorn your desperation in arguments now? attaching legitimate arguments about the quality of the show to /pol/ is a great why to show your true colors. be smarter next time.

>>80014234
The only legitimate complaints are in >>80013660. Anything else you have is fearmongering and alt-right virtue signaling.

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>>80014234
>thread starts out with this one "not /pol/" assmad faggot complaining about blacks and crying about liberals and liberal ideas, in Star Trek...
>gets called out repeatedly
>"whoah, man. Why you gotta be desperate?"

Please just exit this thread and kill yourself so we maybe (((maybe))) can actually discuss this fucking show?

>>80014267
>alt-right virtue signaling
Why are you assuming they aren't being serious?

>>80014267
>Anything else you have is fearmongering and alt-right virtue signaling.
You've gotta' get better at this or you'll convince no one of your show's ostensible success.

If you are not a shill, why are you so tenuously adhering specious arguments in every post, engaging in sophistry and strawmen in nearly every post as a means of deflecting, and calling anything that argues against you /pol/ or (you got a legit laugh out of me with this one) "alt-right virtue signaling"?

If you aren't a shill, you're pretty dumb because you should be getting paid to be so fawning for something that is universally being considered as DOA and with more reasons than have been stated here.

>>80014299
I choose to believe in their intelligence.

Surely they know and understand that Star Trek is based on liberal ideals, and they only pretend otherwise for the lulz. Surely.

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>>80014344
>all these new words I learned today. Am I smart yet, mommy? I-I called t-them shills! Heehee

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>>80014377
They surely do.

>>80014275
>/pol/
>assmad
>faggot
>blacks
>liberals
>((( )))

Wow. You. Showed. Me.

We've crystallized the show as predictably a junkyard car headed towards a brick wall and the delays are like the drivers pumping the breaks and with each passing month that new news shows up and delays are announced until the shills must double down on ad hom attacks in place of actual arguments in every main forum until the show actually airs.

There, we're done with the thread. Unless you've got more points to make so I can briskly punch a hole in them and watch you spill more memes into the text box.

>be sure to append a Trek-related picture too!

>>80009078
Sadly the other thread died.

So are there any more indicators that Logan suffers from adamantium poisoning?

I like how this and many other parts of the world and events are left to the viewer imagination. We don't get needless exposition dumps or world destroying events and just focus on the characters. Which in my eyes is very refreshing.

Also had heavy vibes from unforgiven, rover and the road to some extent.

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/trek/ and /pol/ at /tv/

>>80014426
>all the Star Trek news
There literally hasn't been any you Dunning Kruger looking motherfucker

>>80014395
>>all these new words I learned today. Am I smart yet, mommy? I-I called t-them shills! Heehee

Well at least you know your place now and have tacitly admitted that the post you quote is accurate.

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>>80014447
This made me kek

>>80014469
>I don't know what greentext is.

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>>80014462

According to a Google search that took me two seconds, there literally has been news as early as three days ago, but keep calling me names to nail home how bad you are at your "job".

>>80009857
>Star Trek portrays a future where humanity's petty issues (religion/race/etc) are long past.

best point made ITT

>>80011437
:|

>>80014521
How is the show's release date, news? Also do you honestly believe (unironically here) that CBS has paid """shills'""" ITT?

Either there is a network of paid shills in here who all think you are a dumb faggot, or...

>>80014344
I've been telling you this for months now, and apparently I will have to keep telling you this for many more months, because you continually refuse to read what I'm saying.

I am _NOT_ arguing that STD is going to be a success.

I don't know what STD will be like. It might be a success. It might be a failure. It might be somewhere in the middle. In fact, that's what I expect. I expect that some parts of STD will be good, some parts of STD will be bad, and it will all add up to an uneven whole.

Until it actually comes out though, it's just an expectation, not a reality.

But if you keep arguing that "everything" about it is wrong, that it's "universally" considered DOA, then you're not being honest and you're not being open-minded in your discussion of Star Trek. Heck, with that attitude, you're acting like a paid shill for one of CBS' competitors. Maybe I should reply to all of your posts accusing you of being a Mickey Mouse shill.

Or maybe calling everyone a shill just makes these threads a worse place (AND YOU KNOW IT), so you should just fuck off already with that shit. Please.

>>80014563
>How is the show's release date, news?
It's news because it was another delay.
Remember they said January 2017, then delayed to May? Now they've pushed it back again to early Fall.
Please respond to this before anything else in your next post.

>>80014563
>Also do you honestly believe (unironically here) that CBS has paid """shills'""" ITT?
If not, they seem to have a touchy automatic button to immediately attack anything remotely negative posted in this thread (even deservedly negative opinions such as the continual delays). It's very classic, I pointed out all the usual styles and methods here >>80014344 and no one addressed it because it was accurate and correct.


>>80014563
>dumb faggot
>Duning Kruger motherfucker
>etc. etc.

Using speech to elicit an emotional response from someone who's responding to you without any vitriol whatsoever, as I pointed out in a previous post, is one of few ways you pull consensus in your favour.

>>80014675
A delay isn't really pants shitting news...

>>80014696
>There hasn't been news
>Okay, it's news, but not BIG news!

Sounds like it's going to be pretty heavy handed left wing stuff. The message doesn't bother me it and of itself it's Star Trek after all but it sounds like quality in the characters and script are going to take a hit in order to be overly political. So basically I expect good numbers for an episode or two because they read an article about how progressive it is and it's a name they know and then without the characters and script it won't stand on its own and die out.

>>80014675
>they seem to have a touchy automatic button to immediately attack anything remotely negative posted in this thread
Then why is nobody attacking the criticism in >>80013660?

Oh, right, because those criticisms don't center around race or sex or religion, but your /pol/ criticisms do. That's why your /pol/ criticisms get called out, because they belong in /pol/.

>(even deservedly negative opinions such as the continual delays)
Delays aren't bad news.

It's better to have a delayed product than a rushed product.

>>80014587
You have no name or trip on so I don't why you're talking to me like I'd know who you are.

I'm optimistic but objective, buddy.

And, no, I'll never not point certain shilling methods unless you send me some BTC. Then you have my word I'll start shilling for STD permanently (if the tip is big enough) ;)

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>>80009078
>Place your bets, how many episodes until the new Star Trek: Discovery gets cancelled?

They'll get one season out of, as it's already filmed so they might as well run the episodes.

But there won't be a season 2, because people simply aren't going to pay a month fee for CBS streaming site to watch the show, then be subject to commercials on top of that.

>>80014708
Again, there being a delay in broadcasting is not really news. It happens with shows all the time, CBS has delayed shows before. It is virtually not even a point.

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>>80009132
>unprecedented, insane pricing scheme by CBS All Access

It CBS still planning on charging pay-per-view for each episode, in addition to a month fee for CBS All Access streaming site and inundating viewers with commercials?

>>80000000

>>80014727
You really need to take those Gaymergayte glasses off if you ever plan to enjoy anything in life ever again anon.

>>80014737
That's not a criticism, it's a subjective post about one person's personal categorisation of the "Good" and "Bad" that has been spammed 7 times in nearly every STD thread since well, let's see...

...there, February 2nd.

>your /pol/ criticisms

I just pointed out here >>80014344 that you are essentially outing yourself and killing your own posts by appending /pol/ to someone who hasn't even brought up race or religion in this thread (not so you'd know unless you were a mod).

JUST CONTINUE THE VOYAGER YEARS TIMELINE FOR

Fucks sake, or maybe a 10 000 year timejump where tech has stagnated and fämälämäs are scavengers

>>80014758
>Again, there being a delay in broadcasting is not really news. It happens with shows all the time, CBS has delayed shows before. It is virtually not even a point.
>News is only news when I decide it's news because you showed me with physical evidence from a Google search that two outlets reported LES MOONVES (Head of CBS) made the announcement three days ago
>it's not news, trust me guys

>>80014743
>I'm optimistic but objective, buddy.
You just told us that it's universally considered DOA. That's not optimistic. You're being dishonest now, like a shill for Disney.


Your claim that we are shills relies on this idea that we're "fawning" over STD, except that we aren't fawning over it. There are flaws with the show and we freely admit those flaws. I'm not saying "STD will be great", I'm saying "Wait and see."

Is that so wrong?

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>>80014880
>is that so wrong?
>is being level headed and sitting on the fence on a Kiowa Deerskin Painted Tipi wrong?

Yes, of course it is.

>>80014869
You are really reaching with theae delays because you know this is the only concrete criticism you can offer based on anything substantial.

Just stop, already. You keep embarrassing yourself in this thread.

>>80014849
You have no name or trip on so I don't why you're talking to me like I'd know who you are.

Whether or not you personally have posted /pol/shit, this current conversation began with >>80013563 pointing out /pol/shit, and you jumping in to defend said /pol/shit.

>>80014880
>I'm optimistic but objective, buddy.
>You just told us that it's universally considered DOA. That's not optimistic. You're being dishonest now, like a shill for Disney.

Not being dishonest. I'm optimistic about something that looks like it's not going to be very successful, if at all. That means I'm being positive about something headed towards disaster.

>>80014923
How are you being optimistic by predicting failure?

>>80014923
Is this what a stroke looks like?

>>80014923
Do you even read what you write or do words just come out and accidentally form sentences because that is the most retarded shit I've read here in weeks.

>>80014911
>History of this sub-thread

>"There's been no news!"
>"No, here's the news. Les Moonves announces another delay (from three days ago)"
>A delay's not news. I mean.. okay, it's news just not big news. Even though the head of CBS announced it.
>"(types out everything about it being news from before)"
>A DELAY IS NOT A CONCRETE CRITICISM

So I proved you wrong, you claim No True Scotsman, I show you the Google search, cite Les Moonves, and now you're moving goalposts to me saying it's a criticism instead of just pointing out how you were wrong about there not being any recent news.

You're running out of faulty logic, we might get them all in by the time this thread's necro'd.

>>80015013
Yes again, a delay is not news.

>>80015013
Do you have any idea how television works anon? That shit gets delayed again and again?

>>80015062
>>80015066

Why keep doubling down? I've just proven you wrong, from the bull's mouth (Les Moonves knows about bull markets as well).

You could make the point that whenever the head of the biggest television network in the United States makes a public statement about the newest incarnation of one of it's most succesful franchise that it's pretty damned news worthy.

>>80015110
Those are two different anons, bud. The posts are seconds apart.

Also again, delays are not news. You just want it to be news to make a point.

>>80015110
What you're talking about is not even a delay. In fact, it's the opposite of a delay.

In January they announced that Discovery is delayed indefinitely. Now they're announcing that it ISN'T delayed indefinitely.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/star-trek-discovery-delayed-again-as-spocks-father-is-cast-965494

>>80015146
Leave him alone, he's too autistic to ever admit anything he said was wrong.

>Doug Jones in full makeup as the science officer

Now there's something that makes muh dick hard

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>2240 +/-10
>still having affirmative action
for what purpose

>>80015161
>>80015146
>Also again, delays are not news.

Les Moonves decides to speak publicly about the new release date of one of the coming new version of Star Trek: A multi-billion dollar franchise with BIG players like Netflix involved in it's success.

Somehow, this internet "anon" says it's not news.

>>80015232
But it's not a delay. The January announcement was a delay. The February announcement is the opposite of a delay.

Is this like when you couldn't tell the difference between pessimism and optimism?

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>inb4 Discovery is just one of O'Brien's nightmares

>>80015288
You keep responding to him like a fucking cretin and I can't understand why.

post yfw they hire Rick Berman after Discovery fails to deliver a more conventional series

>BLM episode
>they encounter a planet exact like earth but with no white people
>it's the most developed society they've ever faced
>it's all thanks to killing all white males before they started exploring the world and putting a stop to christianity

>>80014447
mods, when the bans fell

>>80015357

This >>80015300 sums it up nicely.

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>>80015288

It doesn't matter what I say, you'll never acquiesce to actual facts, even if linked and presented properly. You've determined that a word doesn't mean what it actually means (that the _NEWS_ of an announcement by CBS' Les Moonves about the new Star Trek series new pending air date being in the Fall doesn't count as news even when announced by IGN and TV Guide).

In IGN's first words of their piece of NEWS "Star Trek Discovery has been delayed once again".

That was my only argument for this huge sub-thread and you can't refute it. Netflix is involved in this series, CBS is betting a lot of money that it will help it's failing streaming service.

How many times do I have to word something the right way before you just admit you were wrong and move on?

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>>80015369
>turns out it's actually Planet of the Apes

>>80015369
Will you fuck off already? I know for a fact you are the same guy shitting up this thread.

>>80015317
Because my life is the Enterprise theme song.

Weep for me.

>>80015414
How is it a delay to upgrade from "never" to "soon"?

>>80015466
And you keep feeding him because...?

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>>80015445

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>>80015445

>it's a recycled TNG plot in the progressive era

Would Lutan have to look professional with the problem glasses and bowtie?

>>80015499
That isn't fred flinstone

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>>80015485
Because CBS don't pay him enough dosh to get a brain transplant.

Yeah, /trek/ dead. Thanks m00t for allowing /pol/ to exist and not nuking it when you had the chance you fucking spastic frogfaced asshole.

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>>80015523
Sorry. Thank you.

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>>80015523

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>When in doubt, blame /pol/
>Rule #1488

>>80015608
Because it is usually their actual fault

>they mark trump's government as the downfall of modern civilization
>they make a 'he will not divide us' reference

>>80015657
I would feel bad if I had to constantly default in argument with an appeal to the scarecrow every third post.

That's what half of this thread feels like given a cursory glance.

>>80015761
Are you new to 4chan or something?

>>80015704
>they mark trump's government as the downfall of modern civilization
It's already part of Star Trek canon that the downfall of modern civilization starts now.

Sanctuary districts spring up before 2020, and after that it's only a short wait until World War III in 2026.

>>80015761
Unlike the "shill" scarecrow though, we know that /pol/ actually exists.

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Going to get myself a nice 3 month ban lads. Wish me luck, I'm outta this shithole until summertime, see ya then losers.

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>>80015704
>they make a 'he will not divide us' reference
Idk why this makes some of you sperg so much, it isn't even like most of this cointry likes or even takes your memelord seriously anyway. Yeah, usually people who say divisive race-baiting shit, piss everyone off.

Who would have thunk?

>>80015800
>Unlike the "shill" scarecrow though, we know that /pol/ actually exists.

Shills very much exist and even Blizzard Games is quite open about it. There's plenty of marketing consultant firms that pay people to plug their products or paint them in a positive light on big forums online (and why the hell wouldn't they if it's legal?!).

>>80015809
no one knows you nor gives a fuck

>>80015902
Who would do that here tho, are you fucking stupid or just thrive on paranoia and conspiracy? Why advertise in dirty toilet anonymously when you can do it in a pleasant dining room?

>>80015902
This is /tv/, not /v/. Keep your /v/ posts contained in /v/, please.

>in one episode all women on the ship are on their period simultaneously
>they can't make any decisions and start crying out of nowhere
>the men on board can't do anything because of the hierarchy
>the ship is in route of collision to an asteroid belt
>cliffhanger to another episode

>>80015939
I just made a friend. Will miss you buddy.

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>>80015902
>he believes Blizzard pays people to shill on 4chan
>he believes anyone thinks 4chan is that important
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

>>80015960
Still at it?

>>80016014
It's all they really do anon. Shit, they don't even bother watching the shit they criticize, they just make retarded scenarios all day long while wanking to Milo or whatever.

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>>80015985
>>80015942
>conspiracy
>paranoia
You forget the tin foil hat image but no one's perfect.
>he believes anyone thinks 4chan is that important

27 million unique monthly visitors is not only important, it's strategically necessary for vital information and as a hub for millions of people globally, and thus the anonymity creates an environment where the clients of consulting firms can adequately appeal in very subtle ways to the user base.

>>80009078
>TOS era, female captain,

This would never had happened in Kirks days.

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>>80009857

This is what makes Sci-Fi great. There is no subject that cannot be tackled with bumpy forehead aliens. Preachy Liberals and their virtue signalling are like fingers dragging on a blackboard. Literally the lowest form of propaganda. With advances in CGI, Star Trek should be a flagship show. It's a license to print money!

>>80016099
HUEHUEHUE

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>MFW I just want more leaks of aliens, costumes and sets....

COME ON YOU FAGGOTS! I know a few of you work with the show...give us SOMETHING to feast on while we wait for the release! I don't give 47 shits about the politics of the show and shit...I want to see the uniforms, sets and aliens maybe even shots of the redesigned Discovery IF its been redesigned...either way...please give us SOMETHING!

>>80016067
>they don't even bother watching the shit they criticize
because the show hasn't even aired yet

>>80016200
Like they watched any Trek.

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>ctrl+f
>/pol
>32 results

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>>80016238
Pssh. HYEAH.. rrrIGHT! Huhn.

>>80016099
That really isn't a lot compared to other forums. Besides, ad companies have enough of an issue with promoting here as it is

>>80016112
Uh...yes it would?

>>80009519
Just because /tv/s favorite series is DS9 does not mean Sisko is our favorite captain

Averys acting is pretty bad and he is a bit of a nutjob really, he makes crazy eyes as much as the Gowron actor

>>80009078
Why did they pick an actor that can't channel any proper commanding presence into the commanding role?

>>80016331
Alexa has 4chan.org ranked as
#441 globally
#175 in the United States
for traffic.
And we are talking about specifically userbase forums with anonymity. This place is crawling with all sorts of marketing types just on that traffic stats alone.

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>Star Trek Discovery
>Final episode
>The ship encounters an anomaly and is sent thousands of lightyears away
>the ship runs into a Borg Cube
>The captain calls for a red alert as it begins to attack
>half the crew are not at their battle stations
>all the muslim crew members are on their prayer rugs bowing down to the cube and praying to Allah mistaking it for the Kaaba
>Ship is destroyed

screencap dis

>>80016470
>This place is crawling with all sorts of marketing types
This is why people call you paranoid.


Prove it. Being 175th in traffic is not really a compelling argument, given who the average poster is on here...usually a degenerate.

>>80016352
Are you kidding, the representation of Women in TOS was that they always did something stupid to cause a problem.

Watch any fucking TOS episode and theyre a vice to a worse situation.

>>80016537
Ok, so this is all just in your head then? Because in-universe, nobody gave a shit.

The 60's and you personally not liking women don't change the show's internal history

>>80016499
>Prove it. Being 175th in traffic is not really a compelling argument

175th in traffic in the United States is so exceptional that one would want to bring traffic towards consumptive information as to make an easy and free way of marketing just about anything.
New boards each year and continually growing user base.
This isn't paranoia it's 100% aesthetic fact.

>>80016577
>100% aesthetic fact.
I have no fucking clue what you think this means but basically you said your proof that shills are here...is that there are threads.

Go lay down, kiddo.

>>80016569
No seriously go watch it, women are made out to be always making the wrong decisions and not following a mans orders and thus worsening a situation.

Can't change the facts man. TOS is BASED

>>80016620
I have watched nearly every piece of Star Trek material and I have no clue how you deciphered this meaning. I think you are just reflecting what the attitudes were in the 60s, outside the show.

>>80011603
Why wouldn't it be?

>>80009078
3 seasons max so we're looking at maybe 70 episodes when its 25 episodes per season. Or if its only like 15 per season then 40-45 episodes.

>>80016652
You're blind then.

>>80009078
>Not going a years after TNG ending and having actors come back for a reunion season
>Not doing that for TNG, DS9 and VOY
>Having 3 seasons with a main plot that continues through the 3 seasons
>SJW shilling
I thought Fuller was good Hannibal was good..

>>80016616
You're purposely pretending like you can't read.
I stated that this
"175th in traffic in the United States is so exceptional that one would want to bring traffic towards consumptive information as to make an easy and free way of marketing just about anything.
New boards each year and continually growing user base."
is not paranoia but 100% aesthetic fact.

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>>80016405
I imagine because they couldn't find a suitable Asian actor who does have a commanding presence willing to take the role.

#STARTREKSOWHITE
We need to protest this in the strongest possible terms. Stop the oppression of white males by science fiction television shows now!

>>80016704
And again, "aesthetic fact" is not a real thing...you just made that up.

175th is not exceptional and you haven't proved a fucking thing

>>80016699
>IT IS SJW SHILLING REEEEEEEEE
>EVEN THOUGH I HAVENT SEEN IT

>>80016681
It is going to get 7 seasons, just like DS9, just like Voyager, just like TNG

>>80016818
>And again, "aesthetic fact" is not a real thing...you just made that up.
>175th is not exceptional and you haven't proved a fucking thing

Being the 175th website in traffic in the United States is not exceptional.

This is the stance you are defending and it shows the desperation. 27 million users and growing is exceptional. But I post facts and statistics, you post nothing but the equivalent of a "NUHNT UH, PROVE IT" and I reply "Here's some significant statistics". You: "Lol that's not significant; that's not news; those aren't facts"

Please start posting any time.

>>80016691
Or you have problems. What do you think is more plausible?

>>80016870
I've noticed the hardest triggering for the /pol/ kids is before a movie/show comes out, because they can project all of their paranoia and insecurities on it.

i,m a pakled . heh, this place is fun.

>>80016912
You made a claim that this website is infiltrated by shills, prove it. You said this website's traffic is exceptional, besides you wanting it to be true, prove it.

You are making claims...

I noticed you mentioned how buttmad you got that nobody considers a delay news. Again, probably for the tenth time, by yet another anon, no. It is not.

>>80016913
>denying an authentic representation of women.

I'm curious how they will present the technology. A lot of the tech seen in trek is stuff we have now, like handheld communication devices/computers.

>>80017053
Yeah, it really isn't gramps.

>>80017110
Probably the same way enterprise handled it since it's set pre TOS....

>>80016996
"NO!" is not a counter-argument anon. In fact, it's nothing at all. I've posted facts and statistics and you've just shook your head in 100 different ways.

See one of the things we need to impart to newfolks like you is that to actually be taken seriously in a debate you have to engage people with something more than just an attack or a WRONG.

You don't know how to do this. 140th and 27 million users is significant when there are literally billions of websites on the internet. Les Moonves public announcement about Star Trek's delay is not only news, but TV Guide and IGN and a litany of other news outlets think so too.

So either I'm a rare case or you just can't properly distort reality as good you'd like.

I think I've proven rather clearly that it's the latter with stats, images, facts, and representative comparison.

>>80017129
How do you account for Voyager and Janeways crusade across the delta quadrant.

Check and mate.

>delayed again

kek

im surprised star trek is even remotely relevant anymore it has been mismanaged for about 2 decades now. the rights are all over the place and the movies/tv don't seem able to work together.

>>80017139
You haven't sourced any proof that shills are here from CBS or that 175th is important just because your peabrain thinks that is "le exceptional"

Source or cite something or fuck off already, brainlet.

>>80017139
>he is still going at it with muh delays are news
Jesus christ, if anyone is a shill...

>>80017182
I don't recall saying "CBS shills are here". Maybe you imagined that.

And I've already posted about 5 times as to why it's exceptional. I've given you a comparison to the amount of sites on the web. I'm doing the legwork here and you continue to pretend like nothing has happened.

You brought up the delay news again and I (for, what the 15th time now?) showed again why you shouldn't follow your own mistakes and just admit when you're wrong.

>>80017134

Sure but stuff like a separate communicator, a separate handheld "scanner", all those bulky consoles with hard buttons and switches rather than touch screens, etc.

>>80017213
No, read your post last post, you brought it back up because you like getting beaten. You enjoy abuse.

They aren't out to appeal to the hardcore trekky fans because there isn't enough money there. Trek, unlike Star Wars does not appeal to a very broad audience, unless they go the JJ Abrams route.

>>80009078
If they finally go with the retarded pay per view scheme it won't pass the first episodes.

Not that it matters because looks like shit. And this opinion comes from someone who enjoys even Voyager.

>>80017388
>there isn't enough money there

That's utter bullshit though, the only reason why they aren't appealing to them because they're too fucking dumb to do it and believe they know better. Its fucking star trek, just like star wars its a licence to print money but you don't fucking go out and redesign the printer.

>>80017388

Star trek has primarily been a core television franchise unlike space fantasy

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>>80017150
do they call it the delta quadrant because the deltans come from there

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>>80017269
>I don't recall saying "CBS shills are here". Maybe you imagined that.
You literally said there were shill here...no proof though.
>And I've already posted about 5 times as to why it's exceptional.
No you haven't, you just said that.
>I've given you a comparison to the amount of sites on the web.
Also, no you haven't. You posted what the web traffic of 4chan was, and that 175th was important. You didn't prove (with anything) why. So I am still waiting.
>I'm doing the legwork here and you continue to pretend like nothing has happened.
Yea, usually you need to back up your statements. Or let me guess brainlet, that is "spoonfeeding"?

I want you to cite me, literally anything, that proves the web traffic is considerable enough where they would need to pay shills to come here and market. Then source me proof that this is happening. I am waiting, faggot. We don't just "self-evidently" decide facts based on our assumptions. Now I know most of this thread is you autistically shitposting, so I am not expecting much.
>You brought up the delay news again and I (for, what the 15th time now?) showed again why you shouldn't follow your own mistakes and just admit when you're wrong.
You keep bringing it the fuck up over and over again. I am convinced you are autistic. I may be the fifth person now to explain to you why this wasn't news.

Christ.

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>>80009132
>Bryan Fuller dropped

All Fuller shows get cancelled after 2 seasons. Him not being involved means there's still some hope for at least a couple of seasons

>>80017589
>I am convinced you are autistic

Bruh
That rant of yours
Autism Speaks

>>80017302
You literally won't shut the fuck up about it

>>80017615
That's your argument? Pitiful. I know you don't have anything to cite or souce.

Do you need the last word or something?

>>80011717
There's a photograph somewhere of their outfits labelled as Klingon

>>80017675
"Somewhere"

>>80017661
>That's your argument?

Literally a front page anon you dumb twat. Deal with it.

>>80017694
>anonymous board
Yes, I am the twat

>alex kurtzman

Yeah this is gonna suck

>>80017744
OH WOAHHH A JEW JOKE! GOOD ONE TEEHEEE JIDF BTFO!!

I hope there is an alicia keys song involved in this project

I gotten into trek by listening to rihanna

>>80009322
>yfw the best ST series in the 21st century will be the few episodes of TOS sequel made by anime dub guy and his friends

>>80009857

That episode of DS9 is possibly one of the most redpilled and misunderstood episodes of Star Trek.

Sisko has a bitch fit about "muh civil rights" "muh racism" and Kasidy Yates just tells him that civil rights haven't been an issue in his lifetime or for 500 years for that matter and anyone who thinks race is holding them back is really holding back themselves and getting pissy about what essentially is a 1960's Las Vegas roleplay is childish.

And yet everyone (well not everyone, /pol/ mostly) willfully misinterprets it to be some kind of ludicrous pandering to black people when in reality it's told them in no uncertain terms to get the fuck over it.

>>80009519
because they'll be injecting their BLM ghetto nigger antics into the series which is wildly anachronistic in ST

>>80017798
Scroll up...we already discussed this

>>80017888
>ghetto nigger antics
Ah yes, a rational retort.

>>80009857
>Star Trek portrays a future where humanity's petty issues (religion/race/etc) are long past. Moral allegories are done with stories involving aliens.
this. if they're gonna turn the main characters into SJW tropes they might as well cancel the show right now.

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>>80017928
ctrl+f
/pol

grate thred

>>80017928
yes it is, race baiting has no place in Star Trek

>>80018015
>I hate race baiting
>THOSE FUCKING GHETTO NIGGER ANTICS!!
What did he mean by this?

>>80018034

you literally just said POL POL POL
this is your demise pakled

>>80018053
>4chan is one person
>don't call a spade a spade

>>80018133
>don't call a spade a spade

>gets mad about people calling ghetto nigger antics ghetto nigger antics

Practice what you preach brah.

>>80018034
>What did he mean by this?
are you retarded fampai? I clearly meant BLM ghetto nigger shit has no place in ST because humanity is supposed to be past race baiting.

>>80018281
this. so much this.

I dont think blm would exist in the 23th century.

>>80009078
I want so much for there to romulans in this serie

>>80017784
Look him up you fucking spastic. Not everyone her is le scary /pol/ boogeyman.

>>80018194
I'm not mad, just explaining why it isn't civil discourse. Do you need that explained?