Does this show have any chance at all? It's been delay

>>79965881
I hope it gets delayed until never

It'll be fine. I'm also apparently the only fan on earth who plans on subscribing to All Access to support something I love.

>>79965881
CBS is just figuring out the primary audience of Star Trek are older males who dont want their Trek turned into SJW-shit.

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It's not delayed "again."

It was supposed to debut in early 2017 but Fuller couldn't get it together so it was delayed until May and he still couldn't get it together so he got the boot and CBS said they'll release it when it's ready. Now they're announcing it will be ready in the fall.

This isn't more bad news, there hasn't been any bad news since Fuller left.

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>>79965923
>It'll be fine. I'm also apparently the only fan on earth who plans on subscribing to All Access to support something I love.

I as well will legitimately sign up and pay that shitty fee if it looks like even half of the episodes aren't going to be about how my existence as a white male is guilty one.

>>79966029
>It's not delayed "again."
>It was supposed to debut in early 2017 but Fuller couldn't get it together so it was delayed until May and he still couldn't get it together so he got the boot and CBS said they'll release it when it's ready. Now they're announcing it will be ready in the fall.

But you literally just said it was delayed again with that entire summary.

>Slated for January 2017
>Delayed until May 2017
>Delayed (AGAIN) for the early fall of 2017

Sorry but Fuller has nothing to do with these intrinsic facts of events thus far.

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>>79966042
Daily Reminder that those ~probably~ aren't Klingons.

>>79966124
The delays were announced months ago, saying that it has been delayed again indicates a recent announcement of a delay, but we haven't had any.

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>>79966042

Looks more like Draconian from DW

>>79965881
this shit is going to have only 8 episodes still?

not enough room, I want a full 22ep season god damn it

>>79967394
>The delays were announced months ago

No, the recent delay was literally announced two days ago.

Here's another link from two days ago.

>http://www.ign.com/g00/articles/2017/02/27/star-trek-discovery-premiere-delayed-to-late-summerearly-fall

You get paid money to do this at least be fucking correct.

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>>79965917

This.

>>79965923
I was already subscribed to it because of big brother

>>79965923

Every other country is getting this on netflix but in the US we have to pay CBS?

No, fuck them.

>>79970084
American exceptionalism

>>79967908
>not enough room, I want a full 22ep season god damn it
No show has 22-episode seasons anymore apart from cop procedurals.
The advantage of Star Trek having ~20 episodes per season was that it felt like it lasted forever for extreme comfy times.
The disadvantage was that there had to be a looot of pointless filler.
But even the dumb filler episodes could have a couple of good elements.

>>79970084
no ones going to watch. theyll probably cancel the deal asap.

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trek threads used to be good

The first mistake here is making this a prequel. Where the series ended with DS9 and Voyager we have so much content to cover.

Maquis remnants.
Cardassia consolidates.
Romulans gathered a lot of intel from the Alliance during the Dominion war. They won't stay peaceful forever.
In the span of a year, the Klingon empire went from being led by a changeling, facing collapse, civil war, the end of the Khitomer Accords, fighting the Federation, House of Duras duplicity outed, Gowron killed, Worf (still a traitor to most) killing Gowron in honored combat, and Martok taking up the mantle.
Betazed fell to the Dominion. Aftermath?
The Dominion war ended.
The Emissary disappeared.
Bajor enters the Federation.
Odo saves the Founders.
The wormhole reopens to all.
The Borg fall.
Voyager returns to the Alpha Quadrant with 7 years of sensor data and logs.
Many species capable of high warp learn of earth and the humans (Distant Origin Theory is especially starting - the Voth can travel at transwarp and while cloaked/phased).
More Q stuff.
The Federation needs to rebuild.
Species 8472 still want to conquer earth (Boothby said his faction wouldn't, but he couldn't stop the others).
The Hirogen have an axe to grind with the Federation.
Rogue holograms.
Federation has theoretical transwarp if they can fix the turn to lizard problem.


All this, AND MORE, and they decide to tell a prequel story AFTER how bad Enterprise AND the last two reboot movies sucked?

What the fuck lads.

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This show is going to be a colossal failure.

>>79971518

Fuller just wanted to make an original Trek show similar to how Voyager was. There will be Klingons and continuity and shit but he said it's not gonna get bogged down in it. It's an original show with an original ship with an original mission, like 90% of the story would be unchanged no matter where in the timeline it is from TOS to the end of VOY. He said the cameos and real continuity porn would come in later seasons after the show makes it own its own for the first.

Of course he is gone now but the series is following his story outline.

>>79972174
I hope its an original story, but I feel like setting it in the TOS era limits what they are going to be able to do.

we already got enterprise as a prequel which filled a bunch of info but also had some pretty terrible references to other trek series. like the Borg episode and the finale.

like what >>79971518 said. the post dominion war era has a shit ton of story lines and subplots as well as enough room to do something new and original.

I feel like with the current state of hollywood, we will inevitably get a shit ton of references to TOS that will bog its own story down and twist the established canon.

>>79966124
>CBS said they'll release it when it's ready. Now they're announcing it will be ready in the fall.

That's not a delay, it's confirming a specific release timeframe after saying it would be released when it's ready.

If another date is released after this, that will be another delay. The other anon who posted that is 100% right. You're flat wrong.

This is a confirmation of release window not "another" delay.

>>79971518
>implying modern consumers care about stale, garbage plotlines from the 1990s

TNG movies failed, DS9 and VOY weren't even worthy enough to get movies, Trek book sales are at an all time low (http://salesrankexpress.com/startrek/2017-statistics.html?source=841T), STO bombed... it's a garbage series for garbage people, a dead universe with barely any fans left, especially paying ones.

No one wants to pay for a post-Voyager series and it will never, ever happen.

>>79972174
They've already written themselves into a creative corner of obscurity.

This show, no matter how awesome it could POSSIBLY be, could ever amount to anything because no part of it, ship, crew, missions - none of it - even so much as gets referenced is passing by so much as an unnamed ensign in any of the episodes in any of the series that would follow.

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>>79965881
If it has a hot babe yes. If not it will be missing half of what a genuine Star Trek show should have.

>>79973226
the captain in Discovery is an asian MILF

>>79973363
Michelle Yeoh is just a recurring character, she's the captain of a different ship.

>>79972959

You should stick to your capeshit extended universes if you think references = quality.

>>79971518
You got it, but the people making it are shit heads.

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>>79973363
If shes the captain she won't be dressed provocatively which kinda defeats the point of the hot character.

I hope the show doesn't get too sanctimonious, and boring on us. In the original Star Trek they went for the skimpy outfits, and the babes. They seem to have become more modest in the puritan 90s, and 80s. I wish a Trek show would come along that just rejects all that puritanism, and just accept the fact that it's showbiz, and deliver the goods.

>>79970155
what filler?
which series have over-arching storylines (except for DS9).. some recurring threads, sure, but trek is basically motw show, and having 22 episodes is better than 8.

>>79974557
Daily Reminder to watch Enterprise.

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>>79974614
That's a good reminder.

This thread is so fucking boring

>>79972686
>delaying isn't delaying

>>79974954

It's because we know next to nothing about the show and the /pol/tards are off imploding about Sessions.

>>79975002

Just stop embarrassing yourself

>>79974614
thanks, I've seen it.
Season 1 and 2 are classic MOTW with NO storyline. Season 4 had many 3 parters, but no over-arching storyline.

Season 3, I guess, you are right, but that thing was more of a framing device, than an actual storyline. Somewhat similar to VOY. Is it about getting home?

>>79974870
y'know, a lot of t'pol fanservice gets posted in /trek/, but I have yet to see screenshots from the episode about T'pol's great grandmother landing on earth during the 50's.

there's one scene where she's changing behind a sheet and you can easily see the outline of her nipples.

>>79975133
Star Trek is so embarrassing sometimes.

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>>79965881
>how bad Enterprise sucked

You stupid queers are insufferable.

You were obliged to swallow garbage trek for so long that the very best Trek ever produced offends your acquired taste for garbage.

This is what a steady diet of garbage does to the weak. Now they have you actually begging for more garbage.

Pathetic.

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>>79975211

Hear hear!

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>>79965881
I dont understand how they keep announcing new actors, and shit being filmed. Like what the fuck were they planning on releasing normally? Is everything being redone?

Anyway, I dont care what its gonna be about, I only want to see who this magnificent bastard is gonna play

>>79975133
It's called Carbon Creek, now you go grab the screenshots.

>>79975029

That's literally what you did; I'm going to re-word the fact that we stated previously the time of release would be in May but now it appears that timeframe will be pushed back to at least August.

That's a fucking delay, Mr. Armchair JD

>>79975006
>the /pol/tards are off imploding about Sessions.
They're here now.

>>79975147
>embarrassing
That's a funny way of spelling wonderful.

>>79975265
He's genuinely more terrifying than Benedict Cumberbun.

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>>79974954
Your contributions have been added to the banality department for further evaluation.

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>>79975063

Enterprise was the only Trek series that was good from the very beginning.

Seasons 1-3 were the best. Season 4 was when the quality started to fade. Most all of the stinkers are in season 4.

There were some good elements in season 4. It wasn't all bad. The Vulcan and Romulan arcs were good.

But fuck that overrated fag Data as well as his fanbase. The Klingon arc could have been 1000% better without his stupid face chewing up most of the scenery.

The finale was appalling, and the token black "inventor of the transporter" ep was major cringe.

Also, let's not forget "Bound", that retarded green Orion slut episode. You'd have to be a fat, ugly, pimply-faced, sex-starved, permavirgin fanboi to find either one of those talentless cunts even mildly attractive. And don't even get me started on the whole, "The slaves were really the masters all along" bullshit.

It's actually a good thing that the show was cancelled early. With Coto in charge, it would have quickly devolved into yet another woefully gay PC fest only suitable for faggots, sjw morons, cucks, and trannies.

>>79975211
look, it's the ENT-autist

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>>79975545

Oh... and then there's "Stormfront", which, aside from some wonderful visuals of a shuttle being attacked by WWII fighters, and the NX-01 flying low over Manhattan, presented a truly god-awful propaganda story about stereotypical, cartoonish "Nazis" doing stereotypical, cartoonish "Nazi" things, and topping it off with Bobby Baccalieri acting very poorly like a "tough guy" named "Carmine" with a "little sister" who is a moulinyan.

The best part of that two-parter was the part two intro... If only...

https://youtu.be/xeDOe0kZDhk

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>>79975545
>the token black "inventor of the transporter" ep was major cringe.

Lawwd, get deez devils offa mah BACK!

>*transports in rhythm 'n' blues*

>>79975689

Look... it's a garbage eater...

>>79975696
wtf i hate stormfront now

>>79975752
but the only garbage is ENT, no matter how hard someone tries to rewrite history

>>79975758
lol

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>>79975788
If ya' don't like Enterprise, you might have a case of the space AIDS.

>>79965881

>Does this show have any chance at all?

No, it's basically been confirmed to be SJW trash.

I can't wait until the gender-noncomforming members of Starfleet team-up with the oppressed brown aliens of a nearby planet to defeat Emperor Doland Trumpus Maximus, a crazed and power-hungry dictator and leader of a racist regime called the Reporblicans that oppresses the brown alien races and denies the existence of galactic-warming.

>>79975868
So its gonna do fine, great.

>>79975835

I enjoyed binge watching Enterprise more than TNG

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>>79975788

Look... another gay Roddenberrian.

(They get real nasty when their gay, PC "vision" is shattered by good tv.)

Friendly reminder:

>Roddenberry wanted men making out in "Encounter at Farpoint"

>Roddenberry hated God so much that he needed Q to deal with his endless hatred of God even though no one else wanted Q

>Roddenberry wanted no interpersonal conflict, not even minor disagreements

>Roddenberry was the one who demanded dresses on men and women instead of a formality that existed by the end of Season 6

>Roddenberry gave the franchise to Berman who, despite his flaws and agreement with Roddenberry's vision, knew it would fail if it went down that route

We should all thank Rick Bergman and Mike Piller for saying no to this madman after he died.

>>79975868
I can't wait until YET ANOTHER member of the Federation President's staff resigns, this time for committing perjury in front of the Federation High Council regarding treasonous relations with a Klingon ambassador.

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>>79976077

>>79972174
>>79971518

There was a rumor floating around that Fuller planned a rather huge twist for the season finale: that his crew and ship would end up being sent forward into the future and end up in the post-DS9/Voyager era as the hook for season two.

That said, part of the reason for the prequel nature of the series is two-fold:

1. There is a subset of CBS/Paramount folk who are OG Trekkies and who really really hate STNG/DS9/Voyager. The later two in particular (DS9 for not being the usual formula, Voyager for being a well known embarrassment)

2. CBS/Paramount really don't want to take the colossal effort to move the franchise forward storyline-wise after Voyager/DS9 because of all that it would entail in terms of being bound to the fall-out of DS9 (which again is a black sheep show), dealing with fans who might be pissed off at regression based decisions (case in point, there are a lot of people who hate how the Klingons became good guys in TNG) and would want to go back to the OG Star Trek status quo, let alone outright ignore DS9 and stuff like Cardassia and the Dominion because NAWT MAY TRECK......

And that's not even TOUCHING the folks at Paramount that are pissed of that the original Trek universe is still allowed to exist all. Remember, JJ Abrams wanted a complete and irrevocable embargo on ALL Trek merch, shows, movies, etc except his movie-verse. He bailed on Paramount/ST explictly because CBS/Paramount refused to piss off their entire base by rendering Picard, Data, the DS9 crew, etc unpeople and basically purging them forevermore from merch and marketing, while Disney was willing to nuke the entire SW extended universe for JJ.

>>79975006
>It's a redditor brings up /pol/ out of nowhere to whine yet again episode

>>79977186
The irony is that most people would accept a time skip to a new generation of Trek that is about 50-100 years after Voyager/DS9.

But again, that would take a lot of work and one of the issues with Trek in the 00s was that the studio had no balls to escape the OS nostalgia bubble it hid itself inside of and that they had ether driven away anyone with talent who worked on the franchise (like Ronald Moore, who actively shit talked Trek as part of his shilling of his Battlestar Galatica reboot) or in the case of Berman and Braga, they had burned too many bridges with the fans by that point to be trusted with the franchise any further.

>>79977186
>>79977351
boring posts by the same person

>>79977351
I think Trek going into hibernation in the late 00s was a blessing in disguise.

9/11 fucked up a lot of entertainment and Trek post-9/11 gave us that god-awful Xindi storyline. Not to Battlestar Galactica, which basically was Ron Moore minus any filter whatsoever for his grim dark and plotlines that kept going and going and failing to pay off at the end.

In retrospect, Paramount should have cut a deal with Fox to do a series of Star Trek animated specials with Seth McFarlane writing a couple of "lost episodes" of STNG to keep the franchise going and reminding people how good ST could be in terms of not falling to the excessive grim dark trend Moore was riding with Battlestar

Fuck that

>>79976046
You sound genuinely mentally ill, not in funny 4chan way either. I'm sorry.

>>79973363
No it isn't, it's Sasha from walking dead

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friendly reminder that the designers were basically told to make up whatever the fuck aliens they wanted and call them Klingons, instead of just putting Klingons in Star Trek, and somebody thought it would be a good idea for Klingons to have tentacles for fingers.

>>79979125
What the fuck?

Star Trek then
>

Abraham Lincoln: [interrupting] What a charming negress. Oh, forgive me, my dear. I know that in my time some use that term as a description of property.
>Uhura: But why should I object to that term, sir? You see, in our century, we've learned not to fear words.
Star Trek now
>WE NEED MORE MINORITIES BECAUSE WE HAVE TO RIDE THAT SOCIAL JUSTICE WAVE
>LETS PUT A MUSLIM ON THE BRIDGE EVEN THOUGH RELIGION IS MOCKED IN STAR TREK AS SUPERSTITION
What a time to be alive. Unlike Roddenberry who is rolling in his grave.

>>79971518
They should have just set it 16 years after Voyager or some shit. You could have TNG/DS9/VOY cameos if they wanted.