Ask a Jehovah's Witness that has never seen any horror films

>Also is the exorcist scary?
At this point in cinema history I don't think you can call it 'scary', but The Exorcist pretty much created the entire genre and it's arguably the best on artistic terms with maybe Shining being a slightly better movie. Both movies are great way to introduce somebody into horror genre. I'd also try Army of Darkness or Evil Dead 2 as those movies mix horror with comedy.

What's your general opinion on horror movies and their audience? It genuinely seems interesting to me.

>>79912491
Additional info - Mike Oldfield is my jam:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzzjFVF25IQ

>>79912491
Sorry, I wrote a long reply but my safari crashed.

I don't like horror films, simply because every time I hear about them, they use the same old plots and tropes.

I don't WATCH them because of my fathers experiences, when he was in university, being a JW at this point, he decided to watch poltergeist, in the middle of the film stuff started flying off his shelves hitting him. He was scared out of his life and did not come back into his flag for days.

He also saw some friends using a Ouija board and saw the garage door slam shut and open because they were playing there.

In general, I avoid them, I MUCH MUCH prefer the unseen horrors, like thrillers and crime films.

>>79912634
*flat

>>79912181
>>79912491
You should keep in mind that he has never seen a horror film. Exorcist would probably cause him to shit himself

>>79912634
Watch
Alien
The Thing
Lost Highway
Mulholland Dr
Jacob's Latter
Videodrome

>>79912634
>he decided to watch poltergeist, in the middle of the film stuff started flying off his shelves hitting him
Well, that's obviously bullshit but if he never saw a horror movie, Poltergeist can fuck you up.
The face-melting scene (oh young Steven Spielberg!) damaged me as a child.

>I don't like horror films, simply because every time I hear about them, they use the same old plots and tropes.
Yeah, that happens a lot. Film makers use the plots as a line you can hang scares on.

>I MUCH MUCH prefer the unseen horrors, like thrillers and crime films
You can get that in, well, horror movies as well. Alien is pretty much a slasher movie in space (bested only by Jason X years later) with Alien being hidden and striking out of the shadows for most of the movie.

>>79912714
Of those I would only reccommend Alien for a horror novice.

>>79912634
lmao, great bait, dude

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>>79912752
Check his preference. I omitted any religious related ones minus Jacob's Latter

Wouldn't you rather witness these digits

>>79912786
Yeah, this guy never saw a horror movie and thinks that occult may have an impact on irl real life and you're reccommending him Jacob's Ladder or Lynch's acid nightmares.

>>79912763
>>79912722
Honestly, it's not bullshit.

I have been out on my ministry preaching work, I once met a psychic and she was getting pulled back by her hair by the invisible force, she closed the door and I left panicked.

It's why christians tend to avoid any demonic media or customs or whatever.

Watch Lasagna Cat on YouTube for subtle existential horror.

>>79912851
*an invisible force

We do believe in Demons, we DO believe they are dangerous.

>>79912851
/x/ maybe the board for you then

>>79912888
Hey, I like to be cautious, it's not going to affect any non christians who don't even believe in the stuff.

I was raised a JW, the horror stories they tell you about demons and shit are honestly hilarious. I feel for you.

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>>79912913
Why would belief itself influence material reality?

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>The Exorcist tv show

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>>79912826
Lynch should be fine based on what he said

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>tfw watched Army of Darkness and now my house is infested by skellingtons
>tfw watched Ghostbusters and now ghosts fuck my cat when I don't look
>tfw demoooooooooooooooooooooooons

Fellow JW here.

I highly recommend The "X" Files.

On the surface it's about the government covering up a coming alien invasion and two FBI agents learning all about faith and reason (from each other). But the reality of it goes much deeper (spoilers ahead).

The reality is the government is genetically engineering people into super-soliders, building experimental aircraft and impregnating women to incubate "alien" fetuses in order to fake an alien invasion and create a world government.

If you want to go even further, you can see the fake aliens as an allegory for the Nephilim and the Purity symbiote as a parallel to Satan's seed. Even the crashed UFOs are called 'Fallen Angels'.

It has a lot to do with faith and believing (I Want To Believe, The Truth Is Out There, etc). Mulder (the guy) is a Protestant, Scully (the girl) is a Catholic and ironically, they display the opposite traits that traditionally, men and women are supposed to display (Mulder is emotional, Scully is intellectual).

Apart, they're nothing against the seemingly unstoppable force (whether it's the government or Satan). Together, they themselves are an unstoppable force.

So that's what I'd recommend.

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>>79912181
>is the exorcist scary?

>>79913052
>>79912950
CAN YOU FUCKING NOT PLEASE

>>79912181
Did your parents beat you growing up anon?

>>79913038
OP Here.

Do you believe what we say about demons, satan etc...

>>79913335
No, of course not.

>>79913337
Yeah

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>>79913321
Dude, seriously

>>79913359
Just wondering, we had Jw's living a couple of houses down growing up and the father would beat his daughters with a strap when they misbehaved.

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>>79912851

Could you win a fist fight against a Mormon?

>>79913425
Here is what happened verbatim.

>I was on my door to door preaching work
>I knock on this door
>This old woman, probably 50 odd answers
>She sees we are Jehovah's Witnesses from the literature we carry
>Talking about Paradise etc
>She says she is a psychic and can see dead people and talk to them etc
>About 3 minutes into the conversation she starts getting pulled backwards by her hair
>I offer to help
>She just screams in pain for us to leave so we do
>She slams the door

>>79912851
How come everyone I know that watches demonic shit all the time never has these experiences? Maybe it's lack of exposure that's causing your problems.

>>79913399
I'm from the UK, I can imagine US christian fathers being too extreme and taking the fist to their daughters

My parents would never do anything like that, my dad hit me arse with a belt when I first used profanity that was it.

>>79913482
She was probably fucking with you because she knew you were sheltered.

>>79913482
The hair stood up on her head or she just started jerking her head backwards?
Because if the latter is true then she just wanted you to gtfo or was really a psycho.

>>79913487
OP here

It only happens to those who know of the dangers of it. How do you think Ouija boards work?

Demons are real, but they are not going to harass normal people who do not believe in god or any of that.

They harass or show themselves to those who preach God's message.

>>79913504
I'm Australian. This was in the 90's. The kid would probably sue these days.

>>79913505
Nope, I remember her facial expression, it was almost like she was terrified, I contemplated calling the authorities for a while after.

She said in this horrible voice for us to leave.

Rosemary's Baby is for you

>>79913514
Her hair was being pulled by an invisible force, as if someone was there pulling at it.

She said specifically "I wish I could get rid of these demons".

She obviously was being harassed by them for a long time.

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>>79913563
I'm not falling for that again.

>>79913567
And you just left her there?
You're the worst God's soldier I've ever heard of.

>>79913585
Try 'Possession'

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>>79913543
>I contemplated calling the authorities
"police? I saw a woman being assaulted by a ghost."

>>79913589
It was a long altercation.

I asked her if she wanted help, in the long term AND short term. I told her to remove anything related to demons or satan from her house.

This includes tools, media, paintings, anything which directly relates or involves demons or satan.

She explicitly told me to leave.

>>79913585
The Black Cat is good too

Horror films are universally retarded OP, you missed nothing.
It's the "sarcasm" of the film world.

>>79913524
Neat. Nice to know I'm safe from demons then. You folks should probably mention that we're safe from demons though. I know it's not a good selling point but apparently you guys are dealing with demons and the worst thing that I have to deal with is silverfish.

>>79913613
The authorities treat it as mental illnesses.

>>79913625
OP Here

I agree fully with this, horror movies look rubbish. They appeal to those with very little artistic integrity.

>>79912181
Growing up with a naturally skeptical mind coupled with a Christian upbringing left me pretty shielded when it came to supernatural horror as a kid. Call it a fluke but between my incredulity and "Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world." left me laughing at shit like spooky ghosts and demons.

Except for Nightmare on Elm Street. That one got to me as a kid.

Now Alien and The Thing? The Thing scarred me for life and left me with a phobia of parasites.

>>79913637
You don't have to deal with silverfish. Silverfish are cute, leave them alone.

>>79913637
We don't deal with demons, or even combat them.

We avoid them at ALL costs, it's not as tense as it would seem.

Other denominations do combat them, like catholics or jesuits who go out and perform exorcisms on people, objects and houses.

We believe only Jesus had the god given power to exorcise spirits from people.

We believe the name of God, Jehovah (The hebrew word for God) protects us because Demons are scared of their power.

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>>79912181

>part of a cult
>are horror movies scary

>>79913704
*of his name

>>79913666
The first response in this thread is literally about artistic merits of horror movies.
The Exorcist is an excellent movie with perfect pacing. Shining is visually stunning and intense.

>>79913704
What good is your good when even cucked catholics can exorcise demons and you can't?

>>79913768
what good is your God*
Had a brain fart there.

>>79913524
>but they are not going to harass normal people who do not believe in god or any of that.
This is the exact fucking opposite of what the Bible teaches, you lying faggot.

The Word is a beacon of light that shines out from believers and shields them from the evils of the world. Atheists and pagans are born in and wallow in the world and succumb to all of its traps, including demonic influence.

Reminder: Satan is of the world. We are born in his domain. Accepting God's offer of salvation is the only protection we get from it.

Get off 4chan dude, no JW belongs here.

>>79913768
>>79913805
They can't though, no one can.

If you do your research, the majority of modern day exorcisms result in the person's death.

They do nothing but ease the mind of whoever it is, if someone is possessed or being harassed by demons, it's because they either have an item which is linked to demons OR they themselves are practicing something that is related to demons like horoscopes, tarot cards or other unholy stuff.

>>79913821
Yes, that's what I mean.

We are protected because of God's word. But those who do believe that it is all "fantasy" or "fairy tails" are largely unaffected.

>>79913852
>tarot cards
>horoscopes
Dude, you're killing me

>>79913881
Exactly, I believe they are nothing more than fake tricks but those practicing those are inviting badness into their lives.

Superb thread, OP, post more /x/ stories.

>>79914089
Alright, this is what my dad told me. I look up to my dad, he'd never lie and is very experienced about the world.

>Be my dad
>Be living in Birmingham UK, (birth place).
>My dad has some stupid friends called "Piggy" (nickname, don't know real name).
>Piggy hears about this thing called a Ouija board, buy's one.
>My dad, being a JW, tells piggy to get rid of it.
>Piggy, one saturday set's this board up in his garage, my dad walks PAST his house one day and sees the garage door slamming shut and opening in a very violent and erratic way.
>It stops when they stop using the board.

Another one from my mother

>Be my mum, live in Stoke (UK)
>Have JW friends who preach at school about the dangers of demons
>Friends laugh it off as fairy tales
>mums JW friend is going to prove how dangerous they actually are.
>mums friend makes Ouija board out of paper, uses it in school library with crowd of people watching
>Friend get's thrown out of the window of the library and nearly breaks his arm.

>>79914191
>>Friend get's thrown out of the window of the library and nearly breaks his arm.

You can't be serious.

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>>79914235
I am, it actually happened, it was documented in the Stoke Sentinel as a freak accident, but those, including my mother who claim to have seen it saw my friend get knocked back by a force through the window directly behind him.

>>79914274
If you're scared of the occult, why are you invoking meme magic in the form of pepe's icons?

>>79914396
Oh, I don't, I don't worship Pepe like the Larping faggots on /pol/.

I even told them it was idolatry but they won't listen.

>>79914191
>>79914235
>>79914274
This is some X-Files shit.

I can already imagine the conversation

>>79914480
It's not fake, simply search on Google or YouTube, occult evidence, occult experiences or any other form of spiritism or divination.

Although, modern day scientists believe that things like poltergeists, exorcisms or anything else in this area is to do with mental illnesses.

>>79914527
I want to believe.

>>79914622
>I want to believe.
whatever kiddo.

Now all we need is a flat-earther in the thread and we'll have a real stew 'goin

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>>79914473
Kek made Brexit happen and got an orange billionaire elected president.

What's Jehova done lately?

>>79914697
Not him but too much to count. He's gonna Make The World A Paradise Again.

>>79914718
OP Here.

This, A PARADISE.

>>79914718
For exclusively chosen 144,000 people*

>>79915068
nah, they are for heaven.

Everyone else going to live on earth.

>>79915068
That's Heaven. The rest of us will live on Earth.

If you're gonna make le clever quips xD at least know what you're talking about first.

>>79912181
>Jehovah's Witness
No Fun Allowed: The Religion

>>79915176
fun = Degeneracy

watch "The Witch" (2016) you wont regret it.

>>79915127
>>79915135
What are you doing to be one of them? Jehova's not paying you to sit on your starfish.

>>79915597
I don't think that's how it works.

>>79915597
Just gotta preach the word and go to meetings to have a strong relationship with God

>>79915176
I mean at least were not hypocritical like Catholics. Only thing i have a qualms with is higher education stance but meh

>>79913640
As they should.

>>79915646
Isn't it an toxic relationship though?
I mean, it's like being obsessed with this girl but she doesn't even acknowledge you.
Furthermore you're not even sure if she really exists but you tell all your friends about her.

>>79912181
Grew up as a JW too, left though, nah they aint bad

>>79915857
They are when they are behind your door, also they are really moneyhungry.

>>79915918
It's never a dull moment though senpai

>>79916231
I went to Kingdom Hall once with a friend of mine, it was boring af.

>>79916268
I aint a JW anymore, so it's never a dull moment, Kingdom Hall is a pice of shit with a bunch of pedos

>>79912666
Them satan digits

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>>79915646
>go to meetings to have a strong relationship with God

>>79916831
The purpose of meetings is to maintain that relationship actually

>>79916874
Isn't god everywhere?

>>79912181
>>79912634
>>79912851
Here are some great horror films that don't have anything to do with spirits/demons:

John Carpenter's The Thing
John Carpenter's Halloween
David Cronenberg's The Fly
Tobe Hooper's The Texas Chainsaw Massacre
Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho
Alien
Jaws

>>79917025
Satan is the ruler of this world to us so we use meetings as healthy reminders

>>79917108
Why is god such a fuckwit? What's the point of all this shit?

Hey OP, if you ever grow a pair and stop being afraid of demons check out these films:

Stanley Kubrick's The Shining
The Exorcist
Wes Craven's A Nightmare on Elm Street
Roman Polanski's Rosemary's Baby
Tobe Hooper's Poltergeist
Sam Raimi's The Evil Dead
Evil Dead 2 (it's a horror COMEDY and you can watch it without having seen the first Evil Dead)
Army of Darkness (it's pure comedy)

Will you check out Evil Dead 2 and Army of Darkness, OP?

>>79917178
Forgot to mention that Army of Darkness is a sequel to Evil Dead 2.

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>>79917108

and if you don't like it your parents will be instructed to disown you

your in a cult m8

>>79912181
Maybe you should just watch sci fi horror and other movies that don't deal with demons and stuff?

>>79913699
>Silverfish are cute
Fuck no they aren't!

>>79917289
We understand the Bible in the way it's meant to be read. Besides a couple of things we share basically the same beliefs as most Christians.

>>79912181
The Exorcist is one of the most pro-Christian horror films ever made. Why won't you watch it?

>>79917353
>the way it's meant to be read
So in Aramaic and ancient Hebrew then?
The christian gnostics are the only ones who really get it.

>>79917353
What's the point of this shit anon?

OP where are you?

>>79917556
Here I am, just reopened the thread

>>79917589
Please answer:
>>79917178
>>79917354

Also, will you watch any of the films that >>79917035 posted?

>>79917354
Jesuit you idiot.

Jesuit pro

>>79917657
Whatever, what matters is it glorifies Christ. Why won't you watch it?

>>79917624
I will not watch the exorcist or any other demonic/divination films, they are heretical.

I have seen scifi horror films like the thing, aliens and the fly. They just don't entertain me that much. I prefer crime and thriller films, like prisoners and sicario.

My beliefs are my own, also I hate the evil character in the exorcist, every time I see that possessed girl face it scares me.

>>79917738
Because A it revolves around an Assyrian God possessing a girl and is quite horrifying.

But also because it is not the kind of material a Christian, let alone a JW should watch.

>>79917768
See
>>79917691

>>79917428
I suppose every religion is kinda the same in their reasons anon.

What are your top 10 favorite films, OP? Who are your top 5 favorite directors?

>>79912181
What do you think of aliens and UFOs? Do you browse /x/?

Mormon here, how do we stop degenerate media from corrupting our children?

>>79917946
Joseph Smith was a conman.

>>79912181
What do you think of capeshit?

>>79917896
OP here

For the past 3 years I have been all about movies and TV. I have not really payed much attention to games, I prefer movies now.

Top films (I'm sorry I can't think of my favourite, on the move right now)

Sicario
Prisoners
Dredd
Howls moving castle
Princess mononoke
End of watch
Pirates of Caribbean (first one)
Zulu
Snow piercer
Batman dark knight and rises

As I said I can't think of my favourite as I'm on the move but I can assure you I do live films, I have long list of favourites and directors.

>>79917946
We can't. On a personal level, I'm not a father but I stop my brothers and sisters from watching crap.

Just don't watch TV, watch wholesome media like documentaries and powerful meaningful films

>>79918077
>TDKR
meme man

>>79918014
Generally I enjoy capes hit for the first viewing.

I forget all marvel films after the 1-2nd verifying, apart from ironman 1 I think they are all pretty hollow and don't have meaning to them(marvel films)

I LOVED the dark knight rises and dark knight films, Batman begins was good.

>>79917973
Thanks, now please go back to your meaningless life.
>>79918112
Not a satisfying answer, but thanks and good luck.

>>79918184
Alright, OP here.

As JW, I live to my own standards, as long as it's not demonic or spiritualistic or downright brutally sinful. I will watch it, I like mature films like crime thrillers and such.

In terms of our children, teach them the good and bad meanings and enforce such meanings. Show them that the violence and sex portrayed in today's media is empty and soulless and will not bring happiness, show them more meaningful media and teach them to IDENTIFY bad media or media that is not wholesome.

>>79913459
someone answer this

>>79917946
ex mormon here. try not being blatantly retarded in the first place. oh wait, thats built into your theology. too bad

>>79918295
>violence and sex portrayed in today's media is empty and soulless and will not bring happiness, show them more meaningful media and teach them to IDENTIFY bad media or media that is not wholesome.
what does any of that have to do with, like, oh, i dont know, personal preferences and growth and such?

>>79912634
>I don't WATCH them because of my fathers experiences, when he was in university, being a JW at this point, he decided to watch poltergeist, in the middle of the film stuff started flying off his shelves hitting him. He was scared out of his life and did not come back into his flag for days.
>>>/x/
lmao

>>79918333
OP Here.

I'm not sure of the average Mormon strength, but the good thing about being a believer of God is you get the placebo effect of fighting with God on your side.

I'm 6" something, I'm big and I lift weights so yeah, I'd say I could quite easily.

>>79918439
>>>r/atheist,

>>79918411
>ywn have a traditional wife and multiple children
>ywn be part of a strong close-knit community that treat each other like brothers and sisters

at least you have your degenerate narcissist culture, women who are likely to be feminist and divorce you, and all your toys and games that 'fill' your empty meaningless life, probably never reproduce and if you do your children will be raised adopting self-destructing strategies as your own.

>>79918518
honestly, unless you're schizophrenic you have no good reason to believe in demons that can make books fly out of your shelf

>>79918614
While I have never witnessed such events, I know they have power, power that is demonstrated in the bible, like when Jesus exercised a demon from a slave girl.

>>79918576
OP here

Who is that directed at?

>>79918780
To the ex-Mormon guy, I got a bit off, so I apologize and I don't mean to make you look bad.

>>79918736
>slave girl
do want

>>79918780
Hey op, why do you think Jesus was crucified on a stick instead of a cross? What version of the Bible do you read? Do you believe Jesus was the son of God and God the Father in the flesh? Why do you think you are powerless against demons when Jesus explicitly states that all demons can be driven out in his name, through his authority (notice that even idolatrous Catholics call on Jesus during their exorcisms, not their saints or Mary). Also what sort of ministry do you do?

>>79918614
I dare you to reply to my post.

I, anon, by replying to this post, I hereby willingly and without remorse, give my soul after my death to this poster.

>>79918966
The second "I" is redundant, moron.

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>>79918959
Let's get this out the way, OP Here.

>why do you think Jesus was crucified on a stick instead of a cross?

We believe Jesus was killed on a stake (vertical stick)

In classical Greek the word (stau·rosʹ) rendered “torture stake” in the Bible primarily denotes an upright stake, or pole, and there is no evidence that the writers of the Christian Greek Scriptures used it to designate a stake with a crossbeam.

>Do you believe Jesus was the son of God and God the Father in the flesh?

We believe Jesus in the only son of God, Jesus was sacrificed to pay for all our mankind's sins and gave us the opportunity to redeem ourselves.

We believe Jehovah is the true God, Jesus, God and Holy spirit are separate entities, we do not endorse the trinity myth.

>Why do you think you are powerless against demons when Jesus explicitly states that all demons can be driven out in his name, through his authority (notice that even idolatrous Catholics call on Jesus during their exorcisms, not their saints or Mary).

We do not belive we are defenceless per say, we believe we can use the name of Jesus and of Jehovah to protect and ward off demons wherever they may be encountered. However, we recognize that only Jesus and God has the power to exercise such power in the flesh, or on here on earth. Catholics are very much placebo and don't actually manage to execute any successful exorcisms.

>Also what sort of ministry do you do?

Door to Door, street ministry, speaking to people over the phone. Just generally answering any ones questions and providing answers.

>>79918576
>>ywn have a traditional wife and multiple children
i wont watch my non existent children get cannabalized in the coming resource wars either. traditional wives are overrated anyways. saay, wtf does 'traditional' wife mean anyways? id prefer a wife thats out working so we could hire some spic slave to do the bitch work at home anyways.
>>ywn be part of a strong close-knit community that treat each other like brothers and sisters
nice reading you fucking dumbfuck. i said EX mormon. i was literally raised in that environment and left because that stupid shit you think is so important doesnt make up for all the retarded stuff you believe. oh and

>tfw when i went to the gym yesterday morning and the former bishop and his wife of my old ward got to the same door as me at the same time
>tfw when i cucked said bishop into opening the door for me AND i got inbetween him and his wife in card scan line

>at least you have your degenerate narcissist culture, women who are likely to be feminist and divorce you, and all your toys and games that 'fill' your empty meaningless life, probably never reproduce and if you do your children will be raised adopting self-destructing strategies as your own.
you mean at least im living on my own terms? oh no, the horror.

>self-destructing strategies as your own
kek youre the guy who decides what is and isnt self destructing? lol okay

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>>79919192
kek

>>79919192
If I was to join what kind of lifestyle do I expect?

horror films aren't really scary in general if you're a grown adult

that said if you're watching with friends and a little inebriated you can allow yourself to become "scared" to heighten the experience if that makes any sense

>>79917943
OP pls

>>79919253
OP Here

>When you and your mates have too much to drink and end up on stakes the next day.

>>79919295
I do not browse /x/, I do not believe in Aliens or UFO's.

I *BELIEVE* meaning I have nothing to back this up with, but I believe that when people see UFO's and bright lights in the sky at night and such, they are actually demons tricking people thus distracting them from the true meaning of life and from God.

As I said I have nothing to back this up with.

>>79919413
where does the stakes thing come from?

they were living under roman occupation, so crucifixition seems more likely

>>79919253
>DAMN SHE THICC

>>79919239
Your hedonism will be your fall, and you're too blind to see it. Living by your terms? Ha! Is that what you really think? Look at yourself, look at your life. Look at what drives you, and ask yourself if you're truly free.

What is self-destructing is that your very own genes will fade away. The human gene-pool will continue to lose quality (just look at IQ), social capital will continue to fall, and is only up to groups with the proper strategies of high standards, high propagation & robustness that are the force against this decadence. You're part of the problem and are too blind by pleasures and intuitions too see it. At least admit this about yourself or else I know that I'm dealing with a fool, who is better off away from my group.

>>79919293
I'm scared of jump scares desu
They really piss me off

>>79918576
>>79919239
actually. i feel the need to tear your little bitch ass apart a bit more

>>at least you have your degenerate
subjective
>narcissist culture
oh no, i have beauty in my life. how horrible. its almost like i have to have to chose between beauty and substance. oh wait. no i dont. i can fucking have both
>women who are likely to be feminist
come on now youre full /pol/tard here
>and divorce you
ahh that statically marginally more likely scenario that might not even pan out
>and all your toys and games that 'fill' your empty meaningless life
id say having material possessions and experiences and growing your skills in the exact opposite of "empty" but thats just me. oh btw, your life is just as meaningless as everyone elses in the big picture. unless youre the next hitler or someshit. which you arent because youre too busy getting cucked into holding a bottle to a babies mouth.
>probably never reproduce and if you do your children will be raised adopting self-destructing strategies as your own.
more money for me

>>79919510
SEE
>>79919192

You need to understand that Romans used MANY forms of crucifixion, not just the standard overused cross. Look it up, they used like X's, short T's, loads of shapes.

OP Here.

Anyone else have any questions.

>>79919192
Thanks for getting to my questions in such a quick and civil manner, in response:

Wasn't stauros the term used in koine Greek for crucifixion?

Doesn't the scripture note that he was pierced three times for our transgressions, which would mean his hands were on a cross beam and not a stake which would have the hands pierced by one nail.

If it was a stake with no cross piece then what did Christ carry with him up to Golgotha? Considering in roman crucifixions the stake was left at the site of execution and the crossbeam was carried by the criminal.

Why don't you believe Jesus when he says he is God the father in the flesh, was he lying?

Why would Jesus say that authority rests in his name alone, not in his name and Jehovah's name? And to add to that, why would Gabriel tell Mary to name the baby Jesus if that wasn't the name he already went by in heaven? YHWH simply means I AM, it's a statement, not a name.

If you truly believe in demons, and you believe in the authority of Jesus, why don't you believe you have that power to exercise that authority over demons that Jesus grants in his name? As for these exorcists, do you believe they cast out demons with the aid of demons, or that they are simple con men?

As for the ministry, though we may disagree on doctrine, keep up the good work spreading the message of Jesus to anyone you can my man.

>>79919852
hi, new to the thread didn't read most of it

why are you here?


do you believe life exists anywhere else in the universe or that its strictly unique to earth

>It's a /tv/ debates about religion episode

baka

>>79919852
What do you think of Jews?

>>79919550
>Your hedonism will be your fall, and you're too blind to see it. Living by your terms? Ha! Is that what you really think?
questioning ones confidence isnt an argument dingus.
>Look at yourself, look at your life. Look at what drives you, and ask yourself if you're truly free.
le sigh, see above. hilarious that youre trying judge an individuals entire lifes situation based off like what 3 post on god damned 4chan. kek if we are going to start judging based off stereotypes you mormons must not to be doing to well to end up in a place like this my dude.

>What is self-destructing is that your very own genes will fade away
no that just means your genes wont continue. not self destruct. try using a dictionary sometime.
>The human gene-pool will continue to lose quality (just look at IQ)
the concept of iq is literally less than 150 years old. and its literally gone up you ignorant doofus
>social capital will continue to fall
do you even know what that means?
>and is only up to groups with the proper strategies of high standards, high propagation & robustness that are the force against this decadence.
except your concept of decadence is flawed and society isnt actually harmed by the things youre trying to fend off. your 'high standards' only serve limited niche ends and dont satisify the human experience in its entirety. high propagtion is literally the fumes of whats keeping your cult alive. you arent converting outsiders and your barely holding onto what you can create internally. the only reason you gained number is because you were expelled from a civilized turned and were tasked
>You're part of the problem
shit you caught me!
>and are too blind by pleasures and intuitions too see it.
wait how am i too blind to do something i do deliberately lol
> At least admit this about yourself or else I know that I'm dealing with a fool, who is better off away from my group.
okay youre totally right, im totally not a part of the mormon agenda. feel better now?

>>79919865

>Thanks for getting to my questions in such a quick and civil manner, in response:

No problem

>Wasn't stauros the term used in koine Greek for crucifixion?

Not for crucifixion no.

>Doesn't the scripture note that he was pierced three times for our transgressions, which would mean his hands were on a cross beam and not a stake which would have the hands pierced by one nail.

Many modern edited translations base such scriptures on the idea that it was a cross.

>If it was a stake with no cross piece then what did Christ carry with him up to Golgotha? Considering in roman crucifixions the stake was left at the site of execution and the crossbeam was carried by the criminal.

He would have carried the stake I suppose, all I know is that the original Hebrew and christian scriptures don't explicitly mention a cross.


>Why don't you believe Jesus when he says he is God the father in the flesh, was he lying?

Jesus was not lying, he meant that he represented his father Jehovah on earth, he was God's son and ambassador to mankind at the time.

>Why would Jesus say that authority rests in his name alone, not in his name and Jehovah's name? And to add to that, why would Gabriel tell Mary to name the baby Jesus if that wasn't the name he already went by in heaven? YHWH simply means I AM, it's a statement, not a name.

Yahweh means I mean to become, this means that Jehovah means to full full his promises as he has done in the past, Jesus is going to rule earth when the battle of Armageddon has passed thus having authority.

>If you truly believe in demons...

We believe that Jesus had the god given power to exorcise demons, some followers of Jesus were extended this power to use so that they could show God's power. Modern day exorcists are in all purposes "con men". They may not be seeking gain by doing them, they just don't have the power to perform them.


>As for the ministry...

Thank You, I try to keep my ministry as factual and objective as possible.

>>79920074
2/2 to finish
except your concept of decadence is flawed and society isnt actually harmed by the things youre trying to fend off. your 'high standards' only serve limited niche ends and dont satisify the human experience in its entirety. high propagtion is literally the fumes of whats keeping your cult alive. you arent converting outsiders and your barely holding onto what you can create internally. the only reason you gained number is because you were expelled from a civilized turned and were tasked with settling a sparsely populated yet strategic terrority that would become a key state in further settling territories further west. you got lucky. thats it and now your decline is imminent

>>79919918
I don't believe that life is on other planets, I think Jehovah God made humans and intended them to live on earth, whether he will provide ways of going to other planets post Armageddon I don't know but with so many planets in the Universe, he must have a purpose for them. I suppose there could be life on another planet at the other side of the universe but I just don't know, I'm sorry.

>>79919998
Jews killed Jesus because Jesus opened up the faith to non jews. They are spiteful leaches that perform malicious acts to ALWAYS stay ahead of the competition, in fact, Jews are known for betraying friends and loved ones for money or other gain, they are just big parasites. I don't doubt that there are true loving jewish people, I just think as a collective they are negative.

>>79920124
Groovy man, thanks again. I'm going to re read Isaiah 53 which I believe is the Old Testament prophecy of Jesus' execution as well as the gospels. What version of the Bible do JW's read? From what i have studied the KJV is the most accurate and one of few unabridged translations of the Greek Septuagint which I believe has the definitive scoop, and definitely says he was crucified on a cross and not a plain stake (though as you noted many shapes were utilized, and I believe there's a list that shows which apostles were martyred on which style floating around somewhere).

>>79920379
While the organisation of Jehovah's Witnesses officially use the "New World Translation" which in fairness is much easier to read for non and English speakers, it has many meanings not changed but reworded.

Personally I use the KJV simply because of it's accuracy and credibility.

>>79920488
They used to use the KJV as well.

>>79920627
Yeah, until it started to become harder to fully distinguish meanings because of the "Old English" used.

OP HERE

LAST REQUEST

ANY LAST REQUESTS BEFORE 404'D?

>>79921004
Did the Jews do 9/11? Did you vote for Trump? What do you think of Alex Jones?

>>79921032
>Did the Jews do 9/11? Did you vote for Trump? What do you think of Alex Jones?

I'm from the UK and do not vote. We are supposed to maintain political neutrality.

Alex Jones seems like a nice person, I think he plays off as explicitly idiotic, if he refined his character and tone he might be taken seriously. He seems genuinely concerned but his actions are wrong.

I think someone did 9/11 to justify war.

DOES ANYONE ELSE KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND THIS LORD FAR QUAD GUY?

BUT SERIOUSLY LAST QUESTIONS AND REQUESTS BEFORE IT 404S

>>79921369
What TV shows do you like?

>>79921389
I'm currently watching The Sopranos, it's very good.

I LOVED HBO's Rome, favourite TV series of all time.

Band of Brothers was very good.

House of Cards S1-S4 was good, got boring in season 2-3.

I loved Clone Wars tv series and am watching Rebels.

Spongebob is kino.

>>79921520
I also watched all of Doctor Who from Eccleston to Tennent, from then on it's been pretty shit.

>>79915176
That's basically how it is. All of the outside world and everything to do with it is considered evil and having friends outside the cult is looked down upon. Also my dad was obsessed with it while being ridiculously overbearing and abusive towards me and my sisters to the point where my mom left the cult and nearly left him. Kind of ironic cause it was mother who got him into that shit.

Never again.
t. former JW

>>79921558
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FINAL FINAL FINAL REQUESTS BEFORE I CLOSE THE BROWSER

>>79913852
>Do your research
All of this is made-up bullshit anon

God isn't real

>>79914191
My parents met at university in Essex. One of their friends converted to hardcore christianity and they started flipping the lights on and off when she went to bed, and at one point my dad and the rest of the Mining Engineering department picked up her car and moved it while she was at church. This is because we all think you're laughable

>>79912634
You're not a real JW. We don't believe in spiritual stuff, ghosts etc. It's not real.

>>79922708
He's saying it's demons, mate

>>79922734
Demons are invisible, they can't do things we're able to see. All this nonsense of flying books, or ouija boards, or people being touched is fake.

>>79922771
LOL.If you really are a JW then you haven't asked around. When demons wan't to tease people, they do it physically

>>79922823
They do not, since the coming of Jesus Christ and the fall of Satan to Earth.

>>79922886
Take this red pill kid: http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2006287

>>79922886
>>79923061
Also read the link under "Influence on humans" to take the full red pill: http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200271624

>>79923061
>http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2006287

That's about mental attacks and misfortune, not about 'flying' things or ouija boards. Those are fake and used to lure people over to spiritism.

Hey anon if you're still practicing I would stay far far the fuck away from this site

>t. Former jw and current degenerate

>>79923178
See >>79923158
You must have the CD Library to view the links that don't work tho. If you really are a JW you will have it. If not, then sorry.

>>79923225
Yeah good advice.
t. JW figthing my own degeneracy.

PS. Dont give up my bro. Fight it.

>>79912181
Whats your favorite scary movie?