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Post some interesting thought provoking reactions to the recent Oscar's event
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>>79863024
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say it with me

BLACK
EXCELLENCE
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I hate this "white mediocrity" meme of untalented people complaining that more attractive and successful people exist and are recognized.

No, these people aren't mediocre. That's why they win the awards.
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these make me happy i'm not a nigger
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>>79863784
its like how white people cant cook despite most Michelin chefs being white
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I just looked at Twitter, and I'm literally shaking with excitement Is the race war on now?
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>>79863024
They let moonlight win to not piss off black people, but they fucked it all up so it will probably piss them off even more now since the "white men" didn't even take the time to correctly present the award
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>>79863024
Someone needs to end these fuckers
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>>79863215

GOAT actor? Yeah, ok. He was really strong in his prime, but, let's be real here.
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This dude knew his favorite Schwartze film lost but was like fuck I'm gonna intervene just to rustle goy jimmies. Peak Kikecasity
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>>79863024
>>79863147
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>>79863505
>LET'S OVERCOME RACISM BY INVOKING RACISM
Bold strategy.
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>>79864021
see but that has more to do with economic background. More white people are rich an able to obtain the training and funding to run hyper successful restaurants, It doesn't mean any ethnicity is a naturally better cook.
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>>79865992
>OVERCOME RACISM
White people are literally the only people who entertain that idea. Black people just know if they bitch and cry "racism!" they get free shit.
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>>79863024
>everyone is freaking out over this
Didn't we all agree a black person was going to win last year with the whole "Oscars So White" thing? I mean, it's kind of funny how they did it, but are people supposed to be surprised that they gave a participation Oscar to a token black?
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>>79863215
>they never loved us

Well ain't that a kick in the head. No shit.
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>>79866521
I thought it was going to be Moana tbqh
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>>79864431
How do you know our word for black people thats supposed to be a fucking secret goy
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>>79866666
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>>79864431

please tell me that nose is shopped
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>>79866521
>Best Picture Oscar
>literally the most important Oscar
>given to a critically acclaimed movie
>near perfect audience and critic score
>"token"
You stormweenies are really reaching with this one, holy shit
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>>79863147
>>79863215
>>79863277
>>79863505
>when whites celebrate their race, it is just an honorable and solemn appreciation of white culture.
>when blacks celebrate anything to do with blacks, IT IS FUCKING RACIST, WHY ARE THEY EVEN PLAYING IDENTITY POLITCS? THESE FUCKING CHIMPS GET OVER IT
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>>79866841
>near perfect audience and critic score

Yeah like that means anything anymore..
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>>79866956
Yes, it does. Unless you live in a basement.
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>>79863024
The worst one
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>>79866942
>>when whites celebrate their race, it is just an honorable and solemn appreciation of white culture.

(you)
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That whole disaster was one of the most painful, cringe worthy events I have ever witnessed on live TV.

And the fucked up thing is that I hated LLL
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>>79866841
Moonlight is a good movie but it didn't win on its own merit because, after "Oscar So White," it was guaranteed a black movie was going to win next regardless of quality.

Not that it really matters. The Oscars have never been a meritocracy. It's just kind of sad that this movie was good and did deserve it on its own merits, yet didn't really win the award on its own merit and more or less got a participation Oscar.

Also, I'm not Stormfront because I'm not white.
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>>79866992
>/tv/ thinks someone with 2,000 followers is important
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>>79866992
>civil rights leaders died for Oscars wins
>not equal rights
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>>79866992
Just remember white folks, black people hate you as much as you hate them.

Let's all stop pretending we can get along. We can't.
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>>79863277
>the outcome of an athletic competition is racist
kek

What the fuck?
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>>79866992
just imagine all that cotton they had to pick to for her to watch some gay awards show.
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I like how there's two sides of the same moron who more than likely didn't watch any of these movies and are just getting upset because of race.
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>>79866942
They're not celebrating there race there. They're shitting all over another one.
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>>79866984
You actually believe this. I feel sorry for you man.
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>>79867037
>Moonlight is a good movie but it didn't win on its own merit because "Oscar So White"
This is literally a fucking projection. It was universally well-received. So unless you are going to attempt to convince me that every review and audience score is just a big conspiracy, it sure does look like the movie deserved the win it got.

Fuck off. I am so sick of you retarded faggots.
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>>79866992
It's good to see confirmation from a black woman that black lives really are just that meaningless from their own point of view.
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>niggers get most of the awards
>niggers still complain

They're like spoiled children.
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>>79866942
You'd see the exact reverse if you ever spent a single waking minute NOT shitposting here
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>>79864030
>Is the race war on now?
This shit will be forgotten by tomorrow afternoon.
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>>79867037
>participation Oscar
Right, this is the new autistic meme now?
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>>79867135
lol are you mad or something?
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>>79867125
Yes I believe that an actual general consensus exists for media and films.
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>>79864030
If the 3 niggers in chicago kidnapping and torturing a disabled kid to show the white president how much they hate him didn't cause the race war nothing will.
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>>79866992
>what my people died for
Who died doing what? What is she even talking about?
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>>79867177
They pretty much flat out said they were going to give a black movie the Oscar before Moonlight was even out. It's a participation Oscar. It sucks, because Moonlight is legit good, but it is what it is.
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>>79867168
Yes it is poor white dindu nuffins. May be, dare I say, even a white genocide?
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A FUCKING JUG
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>>79867255
What on earth are you on about?
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>>79867252
Except they didn't. Get off this website and get some fresh air, son.
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>>79867135
>It was universally well-received.
Absolutely agree it was good, hence why I said "Moonlight is a good movie" in the line you yourself quoted.

Doesn't change the fact that, after the Oscar So White fiasco, they said they were going to make sure next year's (this year's) Oscars would be more diverse, meaning they were going to throw a bone to a black movie.
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>>79867264
>black person hates educational institution
Hmmmmm
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>>79867286
That whites are being exterminated by tje joos and da globalists!!! Save me! I am literally shaking.
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>>79867322
Making the nominations more diverse does not mean the wins are "participation awards". You logic is fucking stupid.
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>>79863433
>Black
>culture
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>>79867296
>they didn't
They did.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/22/media/academy-awards-oscars-voting-changes/
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>>79867339
I think we triggered one of the shills.
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>>79867264
This mexican lady drinks from a moonshine jug in front of me.

Can I report her to ICE?
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>>79863215
I love Denzel but let's be honest, he got lazy. I don't know what the fuck happened to him but he's not the same actor he was 10 years ago.
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>>79867374
That's exactly what it means, though.
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>>79867339
Why are you talking about Jewish people?
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>>79867390
Yes fine, they changed voting to be more inclusive. That doesn't make your meme true though. You desperately want to believe that they didn't earn their best picture win and your logic is fucking stupid.
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>>79866942
black and white aren't cultures or nationalities they're tans of skin
you can be darker than a black hole's anus but still be french or english or canadian or Japanese or fucking whatever because culture and tradition isn't genetically hereditary, it's passed on memetically
likewise you can be paler than dracula's bleached asshole and be part of kenyan or liberian or fucking whatever culture though admittedly that isn't anywhere near as common
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>>79867436
Except not, though.

See how easy that is?
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>>79867436
Only in your own head.
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This entire thread just proves that when you give black people what they want, they just want more. You can never win.
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>>79866366
he said chefs not owners you fucking handi and if you think most chefs are "rich an able to obtain the training and funding" youre just a retard who shouldnt post
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>>79867264
Maybe he worked out before coming to class? Maybe he's going to work out after?

Who gives a shit?
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>>79866992
She looks mixed, so I'm assuming she means the white side of here family who died in the Civil War to free the black side.
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>>79867449
I dont think you get the joke with that greentext...
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guys, I need some funny pics of Moonlight poster! NOW!
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>>79867135
Hey retard, try re-reading the post. He's saying the movie deserved it but it's clear that it didn't get the award because it's deserved, but because after the stupid Oscar So White bullshit the next Oscar would have to go to a black movie. The movie didn't get a chance to get the award it deserves

tl;dr everyone's fine with moonlight winning, everyone would've been a lot more fine with it winning if it wasn't immediately following a racially themed outrage
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>>79863024
i don't get it, how did he know he lost?
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>>79867448
They changed the vote to make sure a black movie could win regardless of whether or not it was good or not.

It's like if Bobby and Billy and Tommy all ran a race, but it didn't matter who was first because Tommy is going to win regardless of the results because he's black and nobody black won the year prior, so they changed the rules to make sure a black guy won. Even if Tommy wins on his own, the victory is hollow because it was already predetermined based on circumstances that have nothing to do with his performance as a runner.

It sucks that a good movie won not because it was a good movie, but because it was a black movie.
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>>79867517
lol....white people defending drinking from a jug....baka
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>>79867469
>>79867483
We can go back and forth going "nuh-uh" and "uh-huh" but I'm honestly not interested.
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>>79867610

Yes, how dare he hydrate in an efficient and inexpensive manner. What a fucking cunt.
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>we've reached peak whiteness

This is really annoying. I FUCKING WISH we could achieve a true 'peak white' and remove niggers from the country but we're not allowed to anymore because we have to pretend that they're human.
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>>79867565
Except this is just projecting that last year had anything explicitly to do with their win, only on the grounds that Moonlight is a black movie.

It's a retarded way to cheapen their Oscar win. It is insulting honestly. Playing race politics to make their win seem like it wasn't real.

It was a fucking best picture Oscar. The highest Oscar award. The movie itself was universally acclaimed by virtually everyone. Gee, maybe it won because the movie was great? Nah, it must be some /pol/ excuse because you faggots can't give them a goddamn inch of success they earn.
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>>79867577
>They changed the vote to make sure a black movie could win regardless of whether or not it was good or not.
Again, this is only true in your head you fucking brainlet.
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Introducing niggers to the arts was a mistake
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>>79867449
>you can be darker than a black hole's anus but still be french or english or canadian or Japanese
Lol
Go tell that to the Japanese we'll have a laugh

And I have white skin it means I can be Congolese? Shut your stupid trap
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>>79867739
But wasn't it mostly jews?
Who are these white people they are talking about?
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D R U M P F
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>>79867690
After last year's backlash, they changed the membership specifically so that next year would be "more diverse." It's dishonest to pretend the OscarSoWhite debacle didn't lead to Moonlight's victory.
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Who the fuck are all those literally whos and why are they verified?
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>>79867729
See >>79867390
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Question: Why is twitter verifying random 12 year old black niggas?
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>>79867806
>b-but last year!
Keep screeching about that, manlet. Nothing that happened with last year ofnthe voting changes pre-determined the Best Picture nominees. Changing voting rules to be inclusive doesn't mean that they automaticslly pick one over the other, just means the diverse films are THERE in the pool to vote on. You would really only have an argument if Moonlight was poorly received and was a bomb. It wasn't either. Go fuck yourself. They earned their win. Go try about it at /pol/.
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>>79867793
Hes actually talking to governors about obamacare, i bet Trump did want to shitpost though, it is a shame
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>>79867729
"Black participation awards" side has arguments of making up for last year's backlash and changing the academy to include more "diverse" (which now only means black, of course) voters - and left was crying about how everyone only votes for same skin color, so naturally more black people means more votes for black movie just because it's black.
You have name-calling.
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>>79867902
Are you retarded?
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IT'S OVER
KIMMEL IS FINISHED
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>>79867841
And it was explained, this is the third time now, how this would not impact who wins...
>black films are on the list, that means it is a conspiracy if they win now!
Listen to yourself
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>Obviously staged
>No one notices

C'mon /tv/ they're actors for a reason.
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>>79867933
That isn't a proof, that is just stringing together events and pretending it is a real argument. It isn't.
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>>79867914
I'm stating facts: after OscarSoWhite, they changed how the Oscars work specifically so they could be "more diverse."

http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/22/media/academy-awards-oscars-voting-changes/

All your replies to me have been "no, you're a racist, fuck you" because I'm right and the truth hurts.

I'm done with you.
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>>79867951
This. Can't believe that anon doesn't know who broderick greer is what a fucking pleb
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>>79867967
>"We specifically changed the people who determine the winners to people who will vote for black movies because black movies didn't win."
>YOU: I don't see the connection.

It's over. You lost.
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>>79868011
Changing the voting rules does not mean the WINS are rigged or changed in any meaninful way that establishes a precendence of one race or another. They don't effect the wins, just who was voting.

These are autistic as shit straws.
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What's it a metaphor of?
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>>79866685
it's a costume not a shop, people were pissed when he did it and he feigned ignorance over it being offensive
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>>79863147
>>79863215

> When a black man knows there's no way he's going to win it's raciest
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>>79868073
What are you even quoting? They still had to vote. Why was only Moonlight the only black movie that won anything worth winning then?
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>>79863024
>Twitter posts.
ITS A TRAVESTY BLACKS DIDN'T WIN THIS AND THAT THIS COUNTRY HATES US!
>Moonlight wins.
SUCK IT WHITE PEOPLE YOU FUCKING CUM SKINS LOLOLOL WHITE TEARS!

Meanwhile, average people.
>I dont watch the Oscars cause I dont give a shit, got any good movies to watch?
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>>79867902
Sure looks 12
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>>79868086
Except they changed the voting rules after people complained that there weren't enough black winners specifically so blacks could win.
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>>79867995
We'll never know the whole process, but there's an obvious motive and there were actions taken to make it happen. In a civil process (your word vs. my word) that would be enough.
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>>79868011
Anon, you keep making the leap that this somehow cheapens their win. It is a big leap...
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This is a public relations disaster. You can't spin this in a good light. It was humiliating and disastrous for everyone involved.

It's already bringing out the worst people on both sides of the political fence and in many different races.

This is the most putrid moment in Oscars history. The low point of 89 years.
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this is what I looked like when I was 12, I'm not a Somalian refugee tho
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>>79868094
Race war.
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>>79868201
Still not so low as picking Forrest Gump over Pulp Fiction and Shawshank Redemption
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>>79868167
And that doesn't really matter, not with a movie that clearly was rated highly by the general public and critics alike. You are probably just warped by all the /pol/ race politics that you think virtually any attempt at diverse voting somehow denotes a black conspiracy or a participation award, moatly because you apparently cant seem to stand that they won. So it must be rigged.

Neck yourself.
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>>79863433
MUUUAAAAH THE BLACKS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN CELEBRATED FOR ITS EXCELLENCE
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>>79868188
It does cheapen the win when you fill the voting pool with people who vote for movies not on their merit, but on the race of the film.
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>>79867671
>white people so thirsty they need to carry around a jug of water everywhere they go
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>>79868185
You also seem to WANT their win to not matter and have nothing besides your feels to justify your bullshit.
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>>79868201
All part of Donald's trumps plan.

The oscars are now cancelled. No respectable actor will associate themselves with this travesty. Expect letters from any future acceptees.

I honestly don't know what happened but I like talking like this
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>>79868188
>It is a big leap...
They specifically stated they changed the rules in response to OscarsSoWhite.
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>>79868267
But that isn't really what happened. Why can't you just accept that they won? Why does it trigger you so fucking much?
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>>79868296
I have explained this maybe 4 times now, they changed the voting rules to make voting more inclusive. It does not automatically assume that every win is going to be "pro black" or white. That is the fucking leap you are making.
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>>79868251
A black movie was going to win regardless of quality, so yeah, it does cheapen the win when it was already a guaranteed victory.
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>>79863505
>these rich people who don't give a shit about me getting awards given to them by jews and white people is truly the peak in the history of afro-americans. slay queen yas!!!!!!
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>>79868288
It's a tearjerking social movie tailor-made for getting an Oscar, it would have likely won anyway without all this shit being done. However, with all this black hysteria it has lost any credibility it could have.
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>>79867264
I go to a military college. This is common among cadets.
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>>79868362
>A black movie was going to win regardless of quality
You literally dont know that. You keep assuming this is true. It is incredibly autistic.
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>>79868361
>"I said something wrong four times, that means I'm right!"
They changed the rules so that a black movie would win and, sure enough, a black movie won.
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>>79868251
Seventh Star Wars was rated highly by paid critics and public alike, didn't make it less shit anyway
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>>79868321
That's exactly what happened, though.

Why does reality trigger you? Why are you mad that a movie won for being black and not for being good?
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>>79868391
>It's a tearjerking social movie tailor-made for getting an Oscar,
Right, must be a liberal or kike conspiracy that it made a lot of money and everyone loved it. Silly me.
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>>79868398
Is there some particular reason behind this, or is it just a kind of an inside joke?
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>>79863215

He already has 2 Oscars ffs
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>>79868435
Black people should win every oscar, it's only right. Whites have stunted emotion.
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>>79868399
Yeah, I knew it. Everyone did. You have selective memory. Even before the 2016 Oscars were done, we were all saying "yeah a black movie is going to win next year" and sure enough, that happened after they changed the rules in response to people complaining about there not being enough black winners.
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>>79868201

>black supremacists go from salty to cheering in the span of a few minutes
>nothing about the merits of the movie, just racial supremacy
>nobody wins, everyone starts drawing up along racial lines over an industry circlejerk where rich people pat each other on the back

gg 2017
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>>79868429
>CRITICS AND AUDIENCES ARE PAID OFF TO LIKE IT REEEEE
oh, here we fucking go. When in doubt, change the rules of reality to fit your conclusion. So I guess all popular movies are just rigged by """shills""" right? So I guess BvS truly was kino after all.
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What a terrible moment in Oscar history. It's already creating strife on both sides.
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>>79868201
>tries to act all mature and civil while talking shit on trump and patting themselves on the back about how intellectually superior they apparently are to our government by prioritizing skin colour over actual artistic merit
>invite filthy low class nobodies to try and fix that image about them being ivory tower assholes, turns out to be cringey and awkward as fuck, not even years of acting skill could hide their repulsed faces when interacting with lower class people.
>Goof so hard at the very end that all the political grandstanding they've ever done is reduced to a joke because purely because of how unorganized and unprofessional the whole incident was
>The academy has literally ruined their reputation possibly forever
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>>79868398
VMI, faglord keydet.
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>>79868094
White people being replaced in the countries in the countries they built.
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>>79868464
Pretty sure Lincoln promised the black race every Oscar as part of their reparations.
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>>79868471
But there weren't really a lot of black winners. Still isn't.
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>>79868429
Maybe because it was good?
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>>79868556
Still more black winner percentage than black population percentage
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>>79868597
That doesn't literally mean anything. By that retarded logic, whites are overrepresented too. But it is retarded logic.
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Did La La Land get B L A C K E D ?
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>>79868556
There were no black winners. Moonlight got its Oscar handed to them because of race. They didn't earn it. They didn't win it.
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>>79868622
Yes, and /pol/ hates it.
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>>79868011
I'm pretty sure you actually are unable to comprehend what you are reading.
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>>79868460
No, Hydration is important
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>>79868635
>a critically acclaimed film didn't deserve their win because they are black
Keep screeching about how unfair a private awards show is. Why, this may even be a white genocide.
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>>79867264
Maybe if water wasn't $2.50 at the vending machine he wouldn't have to do that.
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>>79868251
Award shows are dumb especially the amount of importance people place on the winners like it's some kind of official stamp that can't be washed off. Maybe if blacks didn't play identity politics (#oscarssowhite) in the first place white people wouldn't denote their accomplishments as purely political. Not everything is the /pol/ boogeyman your side is full of shit people as well.
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>>79868086

yes adding 200 black people to the voting body had nothing to do with a black movie winning best picture. keep telling yourself that. you really think all those black people didn't vote for moonlight?
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>>79868619
As I remember, someone did the math last year and it turns out the only people underrepresented at the Oscars are Latinos/Latinas which I guess didn't change this year.
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>>79864030
no, and it never will be
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>>79868704
I dont know who they voted for, I'd have to see the voting results. I dont make statements based on fee fees
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>>79868519
Replaced? Are we deporting them?
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>>79868685
Movie was good but it didn't get the award for being good. It got the award for being black.

That isn't earning your win. They didn't work hard to be black. They were just born that way.
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This just proves that blacks are insanely racist.
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>>79868690
>the thought that you don't need to be drinking water literally every 10 minutes over a 24 hour period doesn't even cross your mind

kek white people
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>>79868694
>maybe if blacks didnt play identity politics
KEK yes, only blacks do this. It obviously isn't in response to anything...

Look how unfair the Oscars is.
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>>79868777
>he doesn't lift

lmao you ethopian-tier skinny or what bahaha dude its ok to drink water when you want the Water Baron won't chop off your moms tits if you take a drink lmao holy shit
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>>79868743
Literally everything disagrees with you: the critic response, audience response, film's total gross. By all accounts, this was a popular movie that won best picture.

I am convinced you are an autistic brainlet who has "one black friend".
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>>79868789
To be fair, that anon never said "only blacks play identity politics."
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Why do the mods put up with /pol/, literally the worst board here, constantly shitting over every other board all the time?
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>>79868838
>Literally everything disagrees with you: the critic response, audience response, film's total gross.
What? I said the movie was good. How does any of that show that the movie was bad?

>By all accounts, this was a popular movie that won best picture.
No, they changed the voting rules specifically so more black movies could win because not enough did the year before. Moonlight won because of race, not quality.
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>>79868743
No, but they did work very hard to produce a film that was honored by the Academy with the award for best picture. You do realize that there are millions of black people born in the United States who did not receive that award tonight, right?
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>>79868789
You're right we gotta keep payin reparations
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>>79867431

He was great in Fences though
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>>79867264
>THIS FUCKING WHITE DEVIL IS STAYING HYDRATED FUCK SCHOOL
I'm fucking dying holy shit
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Can you just fucking imagine if this was the other way around? If the cast of Moonstone was brought up only to have Meme Land and the Whiteys come and take it from them?

Too bad it's not 2016 anymore or that would've certainly happened.
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>>79868823
>being constantly dehydrated

kek carlin was right
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>>79868789

>implying black people are responding to white people identity politics
>implying it isn't the other way around

Can we all agree twitter was a mistake? It's given the lowest level of society a bully pulpit to spew vitriolic ignorance.
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>>79868777
College is expensive enough without them raping your anus for basic shit. University had the audacity to ask us to print off campus at our own cost due to "paper shortages" while charging the same fees.

Great trips though. Witnessed.
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>>79863433
Black Excellence. That's what I'm going to nickname my penis.
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>>79868851
I don't like seeing things I don't agree with, too.
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>>79868889
You keep harping on this voter change (from your links you didnt even read), it doesn't literally change the film's reception.
>How does any of that show that the movie was bad?
You are missing the point, you keep saying that it is some conspiracy that this film won. I am telling you that the film is immensely popular so it really is not a surprise it was nominated, and it certainly isnt surprising that it won. Your argument only seems plausible if the film was shit.

You are being obtuse as fuck.
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>>79868789
For the millennial generation it's quite arguable the identity politics did start with blacks since young whites have been fed nothing but material to inspire self-loathing and make sure they view being racist as a fate almost worst than death.

Speaking for myself, the /pol/ memes only started resonating after I had been fed more than a fair share of the usual progressive nonsense about white privilege, microaggressions, white supremacy, etc. I was half a hair from calling myself an open communist back then and now I find myself siding with Trump as often as not.
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>>79868789
So only blacks are allowed to be reactionary? Are you dumb?
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>>79868889
Actually, they simply diversified their membership somewhat. The voting rules did not change. The academy is still overwhelmingly white and male. Perhaps last year's controversy made some of those members more aware of their implicit biases against works involving an Other, so they course corrected this year, but, by all measures, Moonlight is a deserving winner and will not be thought of in the same way as Crash. La La Land was actually talked about in more similar terms to crash, except, as an aggrandizement of HOLLYWOOD, instead of a celebration of diversity. You're dumb, also, btw.
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>>79868851
Kill yourself nigger kike

MAGA
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Moonlight was another one of those films that relies on the narcissism of its audience to carry it through. By leaving huge amounts of story missing the wannabe writers all fill in the blanks themselves so that 70% of the plot has been written subconsciously by people with their heads so far up their own rectums that the film can't POSSIBLY be anything but genius.

It's like Half Life 2 in movie form.

Better than La La Land though. 2 hours of a boring couple more in love with themselves than each other with completely forgettable music.
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>>79868899
Too bad their movie wasn't recognized for its quality. Too bad it was only recognized for being black.
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>>79868947
No, it isnt the other way around. Usually, it starts with bitchy whites who dont like (A,B,C) that blacks want to do, then blacks get pissed, then it becomes "WOAH LOOK AT THESE IDENTITY POLITCS BLACKS ARE DOING WTF"
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>>79868968
>they changed the rules that determine who wins, but that doesn't change who wins
You are very wrong.
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>>79868964
Except, you can literally tell every /pol/ idiot come to infect other boards because they share the same idiotic memetic vocabulary centered wholly on their weird reactionary internet racism and they never manage to contribute anything to any discussion on any subject other than the same rote points generated in their closed feedback loop of self-generating idiocy.
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>>79868986
>Moonlight is a deserving winner
True, yet it only won for being black.
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>>79868709
Asians too. Asians and Latinos. Blacks are the most over represented with Whites closer to their percentage but still over represented.
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>>79868970
>young whites have been fed nothing but material to inspire self-loathing and make sure they view being racist as a fate almost worst than death.
I wonder what it is like to live in a /pol/-tier projected fantasy world. Tell me about the white genocide too.
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>>79869060
I can't tell who is or isn't /pol/ because I don't go to /pol/. You can tell because you go to /pol/.

Why do you go to /pol/ if you hate it?
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>>79868986
Dont bother with these people
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>>79868735
Low white birth rates + high foreign immigration + high immigrant birth rates. Replaced. Not that hard to understand.
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>>79868519
>in the countries
>in the countries
You're a a double tard
Re
Tard
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>>79868970
Is it hard to just not call blacks subhuman niggers? Do you need to work really hard at that?
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>>79869006
Mhm. Please regale us with more insight into the minds of your fellow academy voters.

Alternatively, provide a reasoned critique of the various best picture nominees, examining their strengths and weaknesses in the major categories of film making considered by the academy as well as how they function as a total aesthetic combinatory unit taking into account all of those individual expressions of craft, explaining why Moonlight was an objectively undeserving Best Picture winner.
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>>79869035
It didnt change who wins...

Do you think the Academy orders these films to be made?
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>>79869069
This statement is equivalent to saying,

>Shrimp is a nice dinner
>But its only a nice dinner because its shrimp
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>>79868851
Fuck off to Tumblr, you whiny bitch. Best Picture is always mocked every year.
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>>79868094
It really is a beautiful metaphor but it's not in the way her little nigger peabrain thinks.
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>>79869225
>her little nigger peabrain
Gee, I wonder why blacks get mad at you. Must be them.
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>>79869091
As long as people like you will continue to just write off anything someone says it's going to keep happening.

>>79869159
I've never done that. The only reason I'm concerned about White demographic decline is because it's been made exceedingly obvious to me it's not going to coincide with a post-racial future of equality we were all sold on. It's going to look like the Twitter caps ITT and the progressive politics based around all those things I mentioned (white privilege, microaggressions, power+privilege=racism, etc.) are built around fomenting resentment and hatred. They're not going to do anything but turn everyone against each other and the fact I've done an almost 180 degree turn in many of my stances since being exposed to them is testament to that.
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>>79869102
Because I'd been away from here for a loooooong time before I graduated undergrad, and one of the first boards I'd visited when I came back was /pol/, in the hopes of having political discourse with folks. Horrible mistake. Now, any time I have a moment of respite from the horrors of life, I make sure to go to /pol/ to completely demolish any faith in humanity I might recover in such moments.

Of course, you know exactly why I can detect your /pol/shit, because you don't care about film, and thus you recognize your bullshit is easily detectable in the context of discussing film.
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>>79868685
Dont you see, this movie about gay negros is going to destroy white America!
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>>79869121
Theres always that one poofter who writes these exact words in almost every thread, kill yourself.
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>>79869028

If this isn't a purposeful shitpost you win the award for putting the most words together that mean nothing.
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>>79869079
True, but Asians only make up about 5% of the population, so them winning only 1% of the awards isn't that big of a gap. Plus, there's the excuse that a lot of them don't enter the entertainment field because they're pressured by their families to take more steady occupations. I mean, kind of hard to say they're oppressed when the average Asian household in America makes more than the average white household.
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>>79867264
I've seen black people in my fucking high school in the football team do this too, how is this a white thing?
Why the fuck does everything have to do with race now?
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>>79869296
>you don't care about film
I care. I care a lot.
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>>79869257
>Forcing people not to say a word will certainly make the venom of the word go away.

Stop being a pussy, call me a pigskin or all I care.
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>>79869283
>As long as people like you will continue to just write off anything someone says it's going to keep happening
Stop inventing realities that don't exist then.

Everything else was mostly projection

>and the fact I've done an almost 180 degree turn in many of my stances since being exposed to them is testament to that.
Then how much of a gutless or spineless faggot are you? Which stances? Like, global climate change? Like, facts?
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>>79869303
Nice argument.
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>>79869201
Lemme take your example and apply it to the situation: if I told you that you could only eat at a shrimp restaurant, that you had no other options, would your choice to eat shrimp be based on how delicious you think shrimp is? No. Regardless of how tasty you think shrimp is, you're choosing it because you lack options.

In this case, they said "we want a black movie to win" and a black movie won because it's black, regardless of how good it is.
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>>79869359
I'm just saying that "peebrain nigger" doesnt help to mend racial tension.
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>>79869328

Obviously them drinking out of a gallon bottle is just internalized racism. I'm writing my masters thesis in sociology on the racial implications of using a gallon bottle to drink from.
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>>79869353
Then change my mind. Explain to me why Moonlight did not deserve to win Best Picture relative to the other nominees. You don't even have to do so in totum. Just give me a few well-reasoned points, with at least a couple being something other than "niggers." Go ahead. I'll wait.
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>>79869412
But there were other black movies at the Oscars...
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>>79869164
>"next year, a black movie will win because diversity, please stop saying our award is so white guys"
>black movie wins next year
>"yeah but it didn't win because it was black"
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>>79869421
Neither does the cap I'm responding to, but that's totally ok as long as they don't swear?
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>>79869442
>Then change my mind.
I don't care about your mind.
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>>79869359
Anon, nobody is telling you what to say. They just get mad that you would use your immense freedom to say whatver thought you want, and waste it calling people niggers.
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>>79863024
>post some nobody's reaction to the oscars and blow things way out of proportion
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>>79867449
>they're tans of skin
If that were true we wouldn't be able to tell ethnicity by skeletal structure.
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>>79868507
l-l-l let us run the country cheeto we proved we deserved it all along, we ran these Oscars r-r-ight?
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>>79869412
Yeah, but the problem with your theory is this huge

>[citation needed]*

lying at the middle of it, where you assume the Academy made it clear that only a certain type of film could win best picture. If your assumptions were true, it would have swept. It did not. It won three awards. La La Land was still the odds on favorite for the award, which is why no one was surprised when it appeared to win at first. Moonlight won because, taken as a total aesthetic object, AND in light of the way it reflected universal values of human dignity that are only heightened by its focusing on a person of color in our particular time and place, it happened to most fully embody what the Academy voters, overwhelmingly white and male even still, viewed as the best representation of their craft of film making in a particular year.
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>>79869485
It is more than just swearing, it's almost like you are delusionally out of touch with how your language effects people. You cant possibly sit there and pretend that calling someone a peabrained nigger isnt going to make people pissed at you
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>>79869366
They do exist. You can find communists teaching courses at public midwestern universities with syllabi quoting people who've called for unironic white genocide taught by professors who've celebrated political violence and murder.

What part about explaining the counter-productive results of progressive proselytizing and sermonizing is projection? I've been shoved further and further to the right because every time I tried to stand up to the extremists in the left I got pushed away by them and ignored by other moderates who did exactly what you're doing now in pretending those elements don't exist or wield enormous amounts of power.

My stance on climate change or healthcare remains the same. I abhor the GOP's stance on them. My position on immigration however has done a complete 180 because it's become obvious the left has no intention of building a post-racial future and only sees immigration as a means to facilitate political power and dependent voting blocs.
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>>79869545
>If that were true we wouldn't be able to tell ethnicity by skeletal structure.
We barely can. Nice meme though
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Twitter literally is the problem.
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>>79866992
her people died so some elite assholes could receive awards and pat each other on the back?
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>>79869566
>[citation needed]*

See >>79867390
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>>79869591
Kek, show me a single professor who has ever called for a white genocide in a syllabus...

You people really believe this shit?
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>>79868912
>THIS FUCKING WHITE DEVIL IS STAYING HYDRATED FUCK SCHOOL
i dont know why but i kekd a lot
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>>79869567
Of course not. But this 4chan, and anonimity enables people to be politically incorrect. I would never say that in public but the fact me and many others are willing to here is a testament to somehing.
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>>79869591
Anon you are being way too intellectual right now, these guys in here are just pushing buttons for attention, nobody can seriously argue that blacks aren't racist on Twitter and that Twitter hasn't possibly irreparably damaged our public discourse forever.

Let it go.
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>>79869622
You didnt read your source
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>>79869667
It is a testament that you are a coward with shit opinions, I guess? If that is something you feel proud about.
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>>79869469
Except you're literally just making up a statement that fits your /pol/shit agenda and attributing it to the Academy. They simply said, "Perhaps our membership is too homogenous," in response to a very particular concern for how the Academy represented the totality of American cinema. They VERY SLIGHTLY diversified their membership. You're acting like the only reason a piece of compelling cinema starring primarily black Americans happened this year is because the Academy decided it should. Maybe a lot of compelling filmmakers just finally got a chance to make their work because after the controversy of last year producers realized that they can sell tickets and have black people in movies at the same time. That in no way diminishes the aesthetic accomplishments of Moonlight. Please explain why it is an unworthy winner of best picture without resorting to race as your sole category. I was rooting for Manchester by the Sea, because it was the film that most spoke to me, but I do not feel in any way that Moonlight did not also have a strong case for being the most compelling major American studio film of the past year.
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>>79869682
At this point, you're just playing stupid, either because you realize you're wrong and are just too stubborn to admit it, or because you're trolling.
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>>79869675
>professors are calling for white genocide
>this is "too intellectual"
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>>79869482
>Shyamalan Redemption Arc

BEST TIMELINE
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>>79869714
>they change the rules
>"yeah but that doesn't change the rules"
Anon, please stop being wrong.
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>>79869726
No, you literally didnt read it.
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>>79869770
>(You)
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>>79869637
That's not what I said. I said you can find courses at public midwestern universities with syllabi that quote people who've called for it.

Here. Course is called "The Problem of Whiteness," and it quotes the mission statement of a Race Traitor. One of the co-founders of said publication, Noel Ignatiev, has called for unironic white genocide.
http://african.wisc.edu/faculty/sajnani

This professor teaches other courses too. One which uses the bloody Haitian Revolution as a model of Black Liberation. http://www.justusleaguerecords.com/605

And yes, this man has celebrated murder.
http://i.imgur.com/nHVorQX.png
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>>79869502
Sp, you've come to simply masturbate your own opinion here in this thread without caring about having your ideas about film engage in dialogue with anyone else who may have a different appreciation of a given film.

Exactly what I said before. You don't care about film, or you would want to discuss it. You're just spewing masturbatory, circular, inane, memetic /pol/shit that you can't even be assed to take seriously enough to apply to film as a medium when challenged.
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>>79869791
I came here to discuss movies.

I can't change the mind of a man who is convinced I hate the movie when I've said, multiple times in this very thread, that it is a good movie worthy of winning an Oscar on its own merits (too bad it didn't win on its own merits), especially when you seem to think I use the n-word when I don't, not even here on 4chan.

Plus, you're a self-confessed /pol/ user, so I really can't care about what you specifically have to think.
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>>79869790
Are you just autistic? Not once does he advocate white genocide, not a single piece of reading material is about white genocide and not once has he celebrated murder.

Is this bait? Where is the advocation for ahite genocide? In hip hop courses? You are a retard.
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>>79868507
>invite filthy low class nobodies to try and fix that image about them being ivory tower assholes, turns out to be cringey and awkward as fuck, not even years of acting skill could hide their repulsed faces when interacting with lower class people.
I didn't watch the oscars, but I believe it.
Reminds me of when one of the talk show hosts interviewed with Ted Cruz.
>you see you folks are so disconnected from the average american you don't know what they think anymore
"That's not true I know plenty of regular people."
>Sure you do.
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I love it went /pol/ spills over onto other boards and actually have to interact with less retarded people.
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>>79869790
Show me when Noel Ignatiev has called for white genocide?
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>>79863024
Why are we posting shit from the retarded bitch that said Hurricanes target black communities?
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>third worlder
>can't get the benefits of being a white first worlder
>can't get the privilege of being a black first worlder and getting free handouts from white guilt

Shit
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>>79869328
did you notice the bottle is white?
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>>79869790
>I said you can find courses at public midwestern universities with syllabi that quote people who've called for it.
Yes not a single author on this list has ever been an advocate for white genocide. Even if it was true, you made a statement that professors were advocating it through their syllabus. Whicj is dumb and has never happened.
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>>79866992
Don't black people hate gays? Wasn't that what Moonlight dealt with?

Did anyone actually watch Moonlight?
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>>79869979
As someone who bases their entire life off magazine covers, this frightens me.
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>>79869972
Nobody at /pol/ understands what the movie is fucking about. Same schtick with Dear White People. It is the same song and dance every day
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>>79869754
>>79869784
No. You're literally just. Totally wrong from your basic premises. The Academy took seriously the charge that their membership was too homogeneous. It was, and largely remains so. However, they took some steps to diversify the membership of their deliberative body. That does not change the criteria by which films are judged. It simply diversifies the body, every so slightly, making a set of collective judgments based on the objective standards of the craft to which they have all, as a body, devoted their lives to. It is YOU who can see nothing other than race, because you are from /pol/, where that meme-tier shit has completely rotted your understanding of reality outside of the masturbatory, enclosed feedback loops of content generation to ever actually engage seriously in a discussion of film making as a craft. That's why your shit is irrelevant on any other board. You can't even take whatever fucking stupid ideological stance you've adopted there and use it as an interesting or thoughtful springboard for discussion in other areas of interest, you just whack yourselves off repeating the same idiotic, banal memetic drivel on every other board because you feel so nice when it gets a rise out of folks. But it's just fucking boring and uninteresting for discussion for those of us that actually like to discuss film and the craft of film making. I could give a fuck about y'all's idiotic nonsense if it were confined to the shithouse that is /pol/, but it really fucks every other goddamn board on this site when statements that objectively have no bearing on the discussion of film are allowed to just continuously generate themselves like a broken circuit for no discernible reason other than avoiding the loss of traffic from, while the shittiest, is also one of the most active boards on the site. Your bullshit is only allowed to perpetuate itself to generate more ad revenue.
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>>79869972

>implying anyone on either side of this Twatter induced flame war actually watched Moonlight

Literally just both sides using this as an opportunity to push racial superiority.
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>>79870067
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>>79869843
Except you've yet to provide a single inkling of critical analysis which would explain why Moonlight's merits did not win the Oscars for Best Picture, Best Supporting Actor, and Best Adapted Screenplay on their own, and instead required BLACKNESS to win those awards. How is it deficient in those areas relative to other nominees? I genuinely want to hear your comparative analysis.
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>>79869857
The syllabus for the course entitled "The Problem of Whiteness," quotes unironic advocates of white genocide without any critical intent whatsoever.

Please, tell me how framing Black Liberation around an example like the Haitian Revolution and using the teachings of Lenin combined with a racial lens is anything but an implication to that end? He certainly isn't requiring that material for critique given how he wholeheartedly supported gunning people down.

Please note, when people complained about this to the public university, the administrators came out in support.

>>79869906
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF2ppb6ol30

>>79869965
No I didn't. I said the syllabus quoted a publication founded by someone who did.

However, if you want, you can indeed find other professors calling for it.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/26/george-ciccariello-maher-drexel-professor-calls-fo/

I can give you more examples of education being a haven for leftwing extremists if you like. Are you just going to keep pretending your side's extremists are having a huge effect in turning people away and creating the very problem you're seeking to eradicate?
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>>79869594
>We barely can.
Often times the skull alone will do.
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>>79869972
Black people hate fags yet have a larger number of faggots and trannies. Brazil is good proof of that.
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>>79870221
No, get out of here with your 300 year old psuedo-science you dumb faggot.
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>>79870214
Show me something with the words "white genocide", not your stupid interpretations of shit.

Because none of this proves anything you are saying
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>>79870187
I don't think they required "blackness" to win the awards and never said this. Instead, I said the opposite in the post you're replying to

>>79869843
>is a good movie worthy of winning an Oscar on its own merits

You aren't reading what I type to you and it makes me wonder why you keep replying.
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>>79870214
Please, tell me how framing Black Liberation around an example like the >Haitian Revolution and using the teachings of Lenin combined with a racial lens is anything but an implication to that end?
Because it isnt, outside of /pol/
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>>79870067
>No. You're literally just. Totally
Stopped reading there lmao
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>>79870260
>psuedo-science
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>>79870067
But seriously, it's pretty obvious the movie won because of the Oscar's So White bs from last year. Of course you can claim plausible deniability all you want since it can never be 100% proven, but obviously a significant number of people feel this way and and the claim can absolutely be supported by examining the logical chain of events. At this point it comes down to a simple matter of opinion. I didn't read the rest of the sperging out.
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>>79870339
I can't even.
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>>79870350
How can black skulls even compete?
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>>79870214
>a professor made a joke on twitter about how you retards cry about muh white genocide
>somehow is advocation for white genocide
Right, and I am just joking about the day of the rope bro hahaha just a prank!
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>>79870306
I am reading it. I simply want to hear, from you, the advocate of the position that this movie, while possibly deserving, could not possibly have won based on those merits relative to other films. You act like the Academy as a whole has collectively abandoned objective measurement of achievement in film making to award Moonlight on the basis of its blackness. That is what you are saying when you say, "too bad it didn't win BASED ON IT'S MERITS," that implies the only other criteria by which it could have won was its racial make up. If you are saying something else, please clarify. If that is what you are saying, you need to provide some sort of analysis that supports that statement other than, "Oh well, they diversified their voting membership slightly, so obviously black folks had to win this year." What if Moonlight hadn't have been produced? Would Fences beat out La La Land? Why?
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>>79870350
>mongoloid
>"science".
Yes, this is all psuedo-science. What is the point? Also, none of this is even remotely accurate
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>>79870339
Cool. Lmao.
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>>79870445
>I am reading it.
This is either clearly untrue, or your reading skills are woefully inadequate.
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>>79866992
>white people in the rts/favs

lol
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>>79870350
What goes on in your head?
>I want to convince someone about some 300 plus year old concept that nobody uses
>here is ab image macro
>unironically uses the term "mongoloid"
You people are hopelessly inept
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>>79870448
You don't know what you're talking about.
Mongoloid is the classification for asiatics.
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>>79870360
It's amazing that the right always accuses the left of acting based on feelings instead of reality whenever your defense of your position comes down to

>well, a bunch of people FEEL that way

without ever offering an actual, reasoned alternative demonstration of why Moonlight does not deserve to win Best Picture relative to the other films nominated based on criteria of film making as an art form.
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>>79870500
No, it isn't. Not in the 21st century.
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you dont think its payback for what happened to steve the turbo nigger harvey at trumps event earlier this year? MAGA
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>>79870498
You can just say you don't know.
No need to pretend to be an anthropologist, it's a legit science and mongoloid is a legit classification.
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>>79870468
Someone call the cops I'm witnessing a salt
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>>79870524
To beatniks maybe.
But it is to anthropologists.
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>>79870536
Except it isn't and hasn't been used in ahthropological science in maybe over 100 years. Nothing in that fucking image was remotely factual.
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>>79869972
no. who wants to watch a movie about a gay back dood?
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>>79870536
>mongoloid is a legit classification.
Do you often wonder why nobody takes /pol/ seriously?
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>>79863024
>give welfare oscars to nigs
>whites get mad
>nigs get mad too
wtf i love oscars now, race war soon
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>>79870559
It isn't and I am running out of ways to explain "no" to you.
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>>79870560
You are as stubborn as you are stupid.
It is indeed a viable and reputed method of science and while common folk don't use it anymore anthropologists still do, because it's an accurate classification.
But what can I expect from an anti-intellectual.
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>>79870325
You do realize what happened during the Haitian Revolution yes? You know it wasn't just a slave uprising and the Whites on Haiti, even those who didn't own slaves or who helped them achieve their freedom were subsequently slaughtered yes? Even the women and children.

Please tell me how framing Black Liberation around this event achieves anything but the tacit condoning of its methods, especially after having combined it with the very violent methods and ideas of Lenin's Bolshevism?

>>79870299
http://harvardmagazine.com/2002/09/abolish-the-white-race.html

Not saying the exact words doesn't change what it is. I never used the qualifier 'literally' anywhere in my original point, you asking for that is you moving goalposts.

>>79870417
One retard saying something incredibly retarded to another is still a retard saying something incredibly retarded. I'm not defending /pol/tards and their day of the rope nonsense, why are you defending this? Especially when this person has power while /pol/tards are nobodies.

Why do those on the left try their absolute hardest to just completely ignore their worst actors as if what they say, the power they wield, and the ideas they espouse have no effect at all? Why is confronting the vicious-minded among you so fucking hard for you to do?
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>>79870617
>anthropologists still do
Should I start to say "no" in various languages for you?
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>>79870581
It is, joke and plug your ears all you want, this is the reality, asiatics are called mongoloids.
>>79870599
Have you tried not acting like an ignorant child?
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>>79870617
>anthropologists still do

Then post it, instead of resorting to ad hominem post how often it's used nowadays
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>>79870482
Ok, if I am reading you incorrectly, please clarify your position so that we can discuss this film. If you care about film, I genuinely want to have a better dialogue with you. Clarify your position for me regarding this particular film's relative merits, compared to other nominees, and why you feel it did not edge out the odds on favorite, La La Land, based purely on its achievements as a film.

If it's blackness is not the reason why you feel that Moonlight was awarded best picture, then please explain why Moonlight won, but, if it had not been produced, Fences or Hidden Figures would have won because of #Oscarssowhite.
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>>79870529
For a sweet short moment I thought it was an intentional reference to that blunder
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>>79867902
So fort worth is a black ghetto now?
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>>79870654
Why dont you just prove it with real sources then?
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>>79870645
So long as they're mongoloid.
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Can we start a new hash tag? Something like #Oscarstodark
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>>79870658
>>79870681
Go to your local museum/coroner/college and ask the appropriate authority.
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>>79870625
Again, none of this is proof of some epidemic of people advocating a literal white genocide. It is mostly fee fees strung together from individual cases
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>>79870625
This all seems like a problem you want to exist.
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>>79870625
You're implying that it's impossible for a violent event to be simultaneously a revolutionary moment of consciousness and also horrific at the same time. That's simply not true, and that's why all of the major works of literature dealing with the Haitian Revolution have acknowledged both as occurring simultaneously. It's amazing how brutal subjugation and enslavement over the course of a couple centuries doesn't breed a compassionate revolution of the conscience instead of an equally violent convulsion of the social order, huh?
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>>79870704
So you don't have any evidence then? Right, I knew that already.
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>>79870704
>a supernova, an explosion of hot gases, silent in the dead of space
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really wish Trump actually was hitler desu
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>>79866992
God why did you make me black?
What did i do to you?
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>>79870762
>>79870782
The evidence is readily available, now go find it, or do you want me to dig up someone using the word mongoloid until you believe it?
Anti-intellectuals are a scourge.
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>>79870661
I have clarified my position and you ignored it and continued fighting what you think I've said.

But here it goes again: Moonlight was a good movie. It deserved to win on its own merits as a film. Unfortunately, that's not why it won. They award givers for the Oscars made it clear last year, in response to OscarsSoWhite, that they were going to make sure that there would be black winners in 2017. Moonlight won because it had the correct race, not because it was good (it was good).

This is as plainly simple as I can explain it. Please read slowly and multiple times.
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>>79870806
You're one of the good one's. Don't worry about it nigga.
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>>79869002
>/pol/tards really believe that they made Trump elected
really makes you think
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>>79870813
You have been asked to back up your claims with a source...with evidence.

You haven't. So either prove it with real research from anthropologists now, or just fuck off you lazy brainlet.
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>>79870815
It was already explained to you why opening up the voting didn't effect the films that won. It doesnt change the fabric of reality like you want. It was fleshed out to you by at least 2 different anons
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Love a good trigger thread, Godspeed black Yanks
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>>79870813
But. You're the person that initially made a claim. Until you made the claim that phrenology is still an accepted practice in anthropology, no one else had taken the time to mention it because it is objectively false. If you really have a single contemporary anthropologist defending "science" of racial phrenology, then please enlighten us. Otherwise just admit that you have no interest at all in supporting any claim you make regardless of whether or not it has any actual correspondence to reality. Which, coincidentally, is exactly the attitude that makes /pol/ such an enormously toxic, nightmarish shithole of unreality and memetic self-regeneration that spills over somehow into a thread where people might otherwise discuss the craft of film making as it relates to the film that the American film industry has decided is representative of the best work done nationally in the medium this year.
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>>79870890
>It was already explained
The only response I've gotten in this thread about it was "nuh-uh you're wrong fuck you go back to /pol/." Doesn't really prove me wrong. Meanwhile, the evidence and facts back up my story, which is why I've never gotten a counter-argument based in facts.

I'm kind of bored talking about this, so let's agree to disagree. You can believe that Moonlight won purely on its merits, but that's based only on your blind faith. Meanwhile, I'll believe that Moonlight was a good movie that won for reasons other than it was a good movie, and that's based on evidence and things that the academy said in response to OscarsSoWhite.
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>>79870838
I don't feel like it, you want a source, go find it.
>>79870910
Are you daft? Are you thick? Are you so lost in your self rightious tirades you cannot Read? Go look for it, go ask anthropologists, go read a book or a paper. Look at pictures if you want, I'm right because I took the time to read into it, now it's your turn.
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>>79870815
>Unfortunately, that's not why it won.

For fuck's sake. If Moonlight had not have existed this year, would the academy have awarded Fences or Hidden Figures the Best Picture award because they dealt with Blackness in some capacity, over the other nominees? Please answer me that question.

If you say yes, you are revealing that blackness is the sole determining factor in your view, which makes you an asshole.

If you say no, then you acknowledge that it is Moonlight in particular, and not those other black films, which somehow managed to win the award, thereby acknowledging that your own position is incoherent by virtue of ignoring the singularity of Moonlight's achievement.

This is what I mean. Just because you have decided that you feel like the Academy could only ever have responded to concerns regarding the homogeneity of their voting membership by automatically awarding the next piece of "Black Film" best picture does not make that feeling the reality of the situation.
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>>79870838
No, he used a term and you claimed that the term was no longer valid, without providing a source.
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>>79870991
Here
>>79870067
And
>>79870187
And
>>79870445
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>>79870991

Perhaps #OscarsSoWhite just #woke the Academy up, and made them realize they needed to watch more diverse films this time around and get away from their comfort zone, making more members to actually see Moonlight and then vote for it based on its merit.
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>>79871047
Yes, he made the claim that the term is still used...it isn't. He has not proved it is. You don't prove negatives. Burden of proof, brainlet.
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>>79871060
Thank you very much for providing what I talked about, people saying "fuck you you're wrong go back to /pol/" rather than any kind of evidence or facts that would prove me wrong.

Keep living in a reality based on what you feel is true meanwhile I'm going to live in the real world. Bye!
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>>79871073
That's definitely a possibility, much more so than trying to lie and say OscarsSoWhite had zero effect on this year's awards. That's something I'll consider.
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>>79871096
>It was, and largely remains so. However, they took some steps to diversify the membership of their deliberative body. That does not change the criteria by which films are judged. It simply diversifies the body, every so slightly, making a set of collective judgments based on the objective standards of the craft to which they have all, as a body, devoted their lives to.
This is what the anon asked you, and got no real answer outside of your own fee fees
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>>79870705
Individual cases build up. How many have to be shown to you before you admit to yourself there's a problem and realize sweeping hateful extremists under the rug isn't conducive to healthy thought for anyone involved?

Why do you protect people like this? People who celebrate murder and then end up supported by public university staff. At a certain point you have to see this kind of thing isn't just common anymore, it's becoming institutionalized.

>>79870736
And there it is. Every single time someone points out venomous racial rhetoric from leftwing extremists it's met with this kind of gaslighting response.

>>79870751
The amount of people justifying political violence on anyone falling on the wrong end of their favorite political labels doesn't convince me anyone attending these classes is making that same distinction. You're making excuses for the topic right now.

Tell me, if future Black Liberation is being instructed by university professors around the example of the Haitian Revolution, one characterized by the wholesale slaughter of innocent and allied people, why would I as a center-left person ever side with you ever again? If that's what Black Liberation looks like to someone with administrative support from a taxpayer-funded public university what does it look like to the layman?

If helping to end that enslavement and subjugation is only going to end up with the oppressed becoming the new oppressors and leading a genocidal revolution why help at all, especially since people like you seem allergic to the very act of calling out your own extremists in the first place?
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>>79871134
>white genocide is being institutionalized
>I cant really prove this, but if you dismiss me, you are defending a boogeywoogey I have not even proven exists outside of these autistic straws I am pulling on
-you
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>>79871133
It was answered in this thread: stating that changing the rules will have no effect on the game simply makes no sense, especially when they stated they changed the rules so that they could get this specific outcome.

In other words, they changed the rules so there'd be more black winners and there was more black winners, so changing the rules had the effect they wanted.
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>>79871025
>dat deferral due to lack of evidence

You made the claim to us. If your claim is challenged, it is up to you to defend it. If you are unable or unwilling to do so, you are conceding the argument.

Really, though, the fact that you are arguing in favor of a psuedo-science discredited in the 19th century on a goddamn imageboard that is supposed to be dedicated to the discussion of television and film is, in and of itself, heavy circumstantial evidence that what you are saying is most likely utter bullshit.
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>>79871182
Yet you didnt prove this. Moonlight winning doesn't by itself prove that the film did NOT win based on merit. You have trouble understanding this.
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>>79871220
>i'm hungry
>i eat in order to not be hungry
>i'm no longer hungry
>"PROVE EATING MAKES YOU NOT HUNGRY"
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>>79871230
This was a retarded example you wasted time writing
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>>79871230
Here, let me repeat this for you:

Moonlight winning doesn't by itself prove that the film did NOT win based on merit. You have trouble understanding this.
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>>79871251
Prove I wasted my time! I demand proof! PROOF!

Meanwhile, where's your proof it won on its own merits?
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>>79870832
>made trump elected
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>>79871302
You are making the initial claim that it didn't, you dumb faglord.
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>>79871182
No one has ever claimed that diversifying the voting body of the Academy would not, POTENTIALLY, diversify the body of winning movies. You are the only one putting that argument into the mouths of others. However, just because a more diverse selection of movies could POTENTIALLY win, does not take away from the singular achievement of Moonlight in winning the Academy Award for Best Picture in this particular year.

AGAIN. If Moonlight had not been produced, do you believe that Fences or Hidden Figures would have won best picture, by virtue of "diversity?" If yes, then you're admitting that that is the only possible virtue that you feel this deliberative body could have possibly judged a film this year, based on a minimal diversification of their voting body. If you say no, then you are admitting that there is something singular about Moonlight, beyond it's blackness, that allowed it to win the award. Jfc.
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>>79871279
Moonlight winning doesn't prove it won on its own merits. You have trouble understanding this.
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>>79871330
Right. But see, you made a claim...
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>>79871327
I came into this thread replying to someone who said it won on its own merits, so no, I didn't make the initial claim.
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>>79871302
Why did Moonlight win rather than Fences or Hidden Figures if blackness is the only consideration? If blackness were the only thing Academy voters voted for, then why didn't those three black films split the vote and allow La La Land to win? When did they get together and decide which black film was the blackest?
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>>79867264
>he brought a what?
>and he's doing WHAT with it?
>fuck school and white people
That's some impeccable logic right there.
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>>79867690
Oh boy, you sound like you need a break. It must be long hours over at the shitposting factory.
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>>79871191
>the fact that you are arguing in favor of a psuedo-science discredited in the 19th century
You don't even know what you're talking about, what you're referencing is the belief that minute differences in skeletal structure effect individual characteristics, what I'm talking about is the accepted and readily proven fact that different races of human have different skeletal structures.
It doesn't matter if it's said in the halls of Congress or the local saloon, but when a man says a duck has feathers it's still true.
I've done all I have to do, you want proof? Either use your eyes or look it up yourself.
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>>79871376
Why did it win? What do you think the answer is, and what's your proof to support your answer?
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>>79871172
I showed you a crystal clear example of it being institutionalized and you and others ignored everything you couldn't try to poke holes through.

You ignored the title of the class, its mission statement, the reading material, the topics covered, the bloodthirsty personal biases of the professor himself, the support of the university he still enjoys despite that celebration of violence. You ignored all of it because it portrays a less than stellar view of your dogmas. It challenges the idea that the personal prospects for white Americans hasn't changed drastically in the past 50 years.

Do you actually want a post-racial society? Ever? What do you gain from providing intellectual shelter to people like this? All it does is push people away. Give me a reason, any at all for you to give such blank checks to such vile people besides your unwillingness to confront your own political demons. Stop insulting my intelligence by acting as if flat out literal admissions are required to discern someone's intentions. Do you provide anywhere near that same benefit of the doubt to your opposition or do you make intelligent guesses as to where someone's mindset actually is given their ideas, actions, words, etc? People so rarely say what they really think, the violent-minded even less so and yet you are not satisfied by any measure of proof. Somehow I doubt you'd be at all convinced if I gave you a top to bottom manifesto spelling it all out either.
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>it's not racist to call an entire race of people mediocre as long as they're white
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>>79871357
But multiple people have provided reasons why it is incoherent to state that it won based on its blackness, which you have never coherently refuted. You're trying to simultaneously say that it didn't win on its own merits, but also that you aren't saying it won because of its blackness. So why the fuck did it win then? Choose one or the other, because those are the only two options YOUR STATEMENTS have left you with, but you have somehow explicitly denied saying either one without ever offering some alternative explanation for it winning.
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>>79871399
Why dont you source something real that isnt an image macro you had saved in your folder? Because that picture is wrong.
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>>79871347
You, too, have made a claim: you claimed that it won on its own merits. You've claimed this with no proof or evidence to back your claim.

Although, I'm sure you'll pawn off you words and say "that was some other anon" now that you're being asked to back up what you've been saying in this thread.
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>>79867952
>Kimmel Kimmel is RACISS
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>>79871191
Did you know that white americans and white europeans have already diverged in skeletal structure? Americans have a curve under the jaw that allows it to rock when moved. This is not suedo-science. You're just unwilling to learn and admit you're wrong.
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>>79871454
It was a response to a claim, not a counter claim. I am still waiting for y9u to prove that it didnt win based on merit.
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>>79871450
It is my source, it shows you the various and visible differences in skull structure.
How is it "wrong"?
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>>79869790

>that isn't Kevin Allred

wtf there's two of them?
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>>79871399
I'm going to be honest with you, I have no idea then how the fuck anything your saying is relevant to this film at all then. Are you saying that minute difference in skeletal structure decided which film became best picture?
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>>79871444
Multiple people have said it won because it was good. They posted evidence that it was good (critical acclaim) which I've never denied (I think Moonlight was good, too).

Problem is, it being good doesn't prove it won because it was good.

Again, this is something you believe without a single fact to back it up.
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>>79871484
My claim is a response to the claim that it won with merit.

>I am still waiting for y9u to prove that it didnt win based on merit.
I can't prove a negative. Burden of proof is on you to prove it won based on merit.
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>>79871503
No an image macro isnt a source and I've seen this, it just takes top google search pics of skulls from various accidents or people and passes them off as different "racially". It is retarded. Give me real science...quote real research

We all know you cant, so why keep this going?
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>>79871512
No, I'm saying the difference in race is not just "skin tans".
Also these are not minute differences, minute is if one skull had a slightly bigger bump of bone somewhere than the other, jaw,nose and brow structure is significant.
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>>79871503
Source actual anthropology in the 21st century...just do it
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>>79871608
SOURCE SOME SCIENCE YOU FUCKING TARD
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>>79871575
>No an image macro isnt a source
It is when it is visual evidence to my claim, just because it's from google does not make it inaccurate. And they are not from accidents, you just refuse to believe. this IS real science.
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>>79871611
I am. If you want more go find it yourself, do not call me lazy when you refuse to go the distance yourself.
>>79871642
Source me rebuttals.
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>>79871666
It isn't real science, hasn't been for hundreds of years.
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>>79871754
How could I be so blind, I'm on /tv/...go watch BONES.
You're talking about a different thing, differentiating trace by bone structure is real and accepted.
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>>79871401
I think it won, because, collectively, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, a collective, deliberative body devoted exclusively to recognizing excellence in American (and Foreign, in a limited sense) film decided that Moonlight most represented their collective view of what constituted general excellence in film making in 2016, as well as demonstrating the most exceptional performance of an actor in a supporting role, and being the most excellent adapted screenplay produced in this particular year. I believe that because the Academy votes individually, not in committee, so the individual votes of Academy members can only be understood as reflections of their assessment of the craft of film making to which they have devoted their lives. Futhermore, as a counterpoint to the idea that "blackness/diversity" determined the winner of best picture this year (and, yet, none of the other awards somehow), there were two (in fact three, counting Lion) other films featuring either predominantly minority casts, or focusing on minority characters as protagonists this year. Yet, somehow, the splitting of the "DIVERSITY VOTE" among those four categories did not somehow lead to the predicted, diversity free winner, La La Land, to take the Academy Award for Best Picture, despite being richly honored in numerous other categories for its excellence in particular aspects of film making. The only logical conclusion to draw from this is thus, that Moonlight, in particular, held some particular excellence in the totality of its craft which the Academy voters felt more richly deserve the title of Best Picture than other movies, even those that had been more widely honored in other, more particular aspects of their construction.

My explanation is the one that most simply explains the reality of its win. It is up to you, now, making the more complex claim to convince me of its reality as opposed to my simpler claim.
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>>79871704
Ok, so you don't have any? Thanks.
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>>79871782
Neither do you.
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>>79871776
You've yet to provide any evidence backing up your claim. All you did was make your claim again.

Again, provide evidence.
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>>79871771
Still not a source.
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>>79871848
I have, you just refuse to believe it, therefore anything else I give you will be similarly disregarded.
Also you haven't anything either.
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>>79871870
Sure it is. The show wouldn't exist if it wasn't an acceptable science and method.
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>>79871800
I don't make a claim, brainlet.
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>>79871885
You haven't. Nothing you've posted is evidence or proof that it won based on merit.

Prove your claim.
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>>79871907
You have no idea what Bones is about, do you?
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>>79871938
It's a show about a woman who loves bones.
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>>79871800
I just scrolled through about 10 pages of JSTOR results for "Phrenology" and the last reference I could find that treated it as a valid science was from the 1840s. Everything after that treats it either as a social phenomenon or an artifact of the prehistory of the social sciences.

Am I missing a particular scholar? Surely, even if you can't point me to a specific work, you could at LEAST, take the trouble to, offhand, shoot out one single scholar that currently accepts phrenology as an acceptable practice withing the social science of anthropology as practiced by experts in the field and relevant in any way to the discussion of Moonlight, the film.
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>>79871914
Yes you do, you claim it's psuedo-science.
>>79871916
The pictures are my evidence.
>>79871938
It's a CSI esque show about a woman who studies the bones of homicide victims to find clues about their murders and the possible murderer, of interest is she can differentiate the race on bone structure alone.
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>>79871968
You fucking dolt.
Phrenology is different from what I'm talking about.
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>>79872000
YOUR CLAIM: Moonlight won based on its own merit.

YOUR PROOF: Nothing.

I rest my case. Believe what you want, believe in the tooth fairy if it makes you happy, but just know you have no proof.
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>>79871885
You're not me, but I appreciate you trying to fight the good fight.

>>79871916
I have provided evidence. The entire deliberative structure of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences and the public result of that deliberative process IS EVIDENCE. It is up to you to provide a compelling reason for me, now, to doubt Occam's Razor - the simplest explanation is most likely the correct one. I'm saying, most simply, the Academy functioned as intended. Your claim is more complex, thus the burden of further proof falls upon you. I have provided evidence, witnessed by millions of people all over the world and supported by both inductive and deductive logical statements. Provide me with a single compelling counter claim, with AT LEAST AS MUCH evidence as I have provided in support of my claim, which adheres most closely to the simplest reality of appearances with the largest amount of evidence presented thus far.
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>>79872057
I made no such claim.
I claimed race is not just "skin tans".
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>>79871423
>White mediocrity
>Whites aren't mediocre, they even put a man on the moon
>Hang on, no they didn't
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>>79872057
Buddy, see

>>79872066


I've provided evidence rooted in the organizational structure of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, its stated purposes, the nature of its deliberative voting system, and both inductive and deductive logical trains of argumentation all in accordance with Occam's principle that the hypothesis with the least amount of assumptions is most likely the correct one. My assumption is simply

>The Academy functioned as it is intended

Yours is, at least,
>The Academy did not function as it is intended
>Because it could only award Moonlight, a deserving film, its win because of non-aesthetic reasons of blackness
>Because its voting membership was slightly diversified in response to valid criticisms of the homogeneity of its membership

I have provided more evidence in support of fewer assumptions than you. Objectively. I have provided a better argument.
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>>79872066
>The entire deliberative structure of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences and the public result of that deliberative process IS EVIDENCE.
No, it isn't.

If that's all you have, then you have no evidence. All you have is wishful thinking.
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>>79872178
>The Academy functioned as it is intended
Based on what evidence?

You're not posting evidence. You're making another claim to back up your claim without proving the initial claim or the new claim.

There's no facts to what you believe. You have nothing.
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>>79872178
in support of a hypothesis requiring fewer assumptions than you*

Just to be absolutely clear in the exact logic of my argumentation, something you have steadfastly refused to do beyond a basic, defenseless statement of a premise/hypothesis
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>>79872178
Your proof that it won based on merit is an assumption. Assumptions aren't evidence or proof. Again, you have no proof and no evidence backing your claim.
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>>79872234
Based on what evidence? Based on what proof? You've provided neither of these. You have zero facts.
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>>79872219
How can you literally just ignore all of the argumentation supporting my single claim hypothesis? Do you just enjoy ignoring anything that doesn't comport with whatever you feel is the case? I mean. Seriously. Provide an alternative narrative as compelling and rooted in logic, inductive and deductive argumentation, and the physical, objective reality of the deliberative structure and purposes of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.I will wait for you to provide a rebuttal which actually. You know. Rebuts a single aspect of my defense of my position. You can say "it's not evidence" much in the same way that Trump says, "Fake news!" to anything that challenges his narrative, but that does not make the narratives equal. I have supplied a more reasoned, thoughtful, case for my own hypothesis, which rests on fewer assumptions than yours while still providing more thorough argumentation, than you have been willing to do in return.
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>>79872340
How can you fail to provide one piece of evidence despite being asked again and again?

It's almost like you have no proof and are just talking out of your ass.
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>>79863916
same
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