I have spent the last 5 years watching this series slowly and

>>79822131
watch the original series, it has like only 10 episodes that take place only on the ship

>>79822131
You should watch DS9 next, but I'd also recommend watching the TOS movies (1-6) because they're great

>>79822131
>I haven't watched any of the other Star Trek series

Wait, it took you five years to just watch TNG? Get good scrub.

Also watch DS9, TOS, Movies, Voyager, Enterprise in that order.

DS9 is the only peer of TNG, then follow it with TOS - which itself is too 60s and campy to watch nowadays solo, but if you are already invested in the Trek universe it won't bother you and you'll appreciate the characters and recognising things they referred to in the other two shows.

Then the movies, because the first lot take place after TOS, so you need to have seen that, and the second lot take place after TNG, but you need to have watched the TOS ones first too.

Voyager next ONLY because Enterprise has to be last. Voyager will be a slog, you may want to consider watching it side-by-side with DS9 as they aired together and it might make the journey more bearable.

Finally Enterprise, which is the swansong for the entire franchise. Slow start, but you made it through TNG so you're used to that.

Then the new movies and The Animated Series just to round out and complete you experience.

>>79822131
Prison Break

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>>79822131

DS9 has the best leader, the best second, the best ship, the best klingons, the best security officer, the best barman, the best engineer, the best doctor, the best women, the best villains.

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>>79822637
>the best barman
>implying

I'm tired of DS9 redditors shitting up every Startrek recommendation thread. FUCK YOU. DS9 was a DUMB RIPOFF of BABYLON 5. That's FACT. FUCK OFF.

>>79822716
Nobody watched Babylon 5

>>79822716
It was a rip-off, but not a dumb one. It was actually really good.

>>79822716
You and your 1 and 2 buddies getting absolutely anally annihilated whenever someone brings up a Star Trek show in a Star Trek thread and shitposting until it dies are the only problem here.

DS9 sounds good guys! Thanks for the recommendations!

>>79822802
>DS9 fans shitpost all the time
>lol the real problem are fans of the other shows xD

>>79822797
no it wasn't

>>79822637
the defiant didn't even look like a star trek ship
it's like they were embarrassed of being associated with Star Trek

>>79822871
>Heh someone (who?) shitposted in another thread therefore I can shitpost in every Star Trek thread forever
Seriously, just leave

>>79822131
DS9 then Voyager then Enterprise

>take 5+ years to watch a show with only 178 episodes
>asks which series should be next
>some documentary about tortoises or turtles might be just your kind of pacing, maybe snails, sloths, anteaters, that sorta thing
>get the fuck out

>>79822948
if you were here for more than two months you would know that DS9 fans have been shitposting and antagonizing other fans for YEARS

they are basically the Star Trek version of Persona fans

>>79823004
>makes a shitpost
kys KID

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>>79822637
>the best doctor

>>79822998
>no TOS

Kill yourself. After TNG and DS9, you're ready for Kirk punching out deity-level aliens for 60 episodes

>>79823065
>the best doctor not being McCoy

I wonder if DS9 would look as drastically different as TNG did when they did the bluray set for it if they went back and touched it up.

I had no idea how bad TNG really looked on television...

>>79823013
Feel free to provide links, I've only ever noticed you and your fags with your "outer space shopping mall" shit and posts like >>79822716 and threads you constantly destroy like >>79778288

>>79823122
It's especially true if you're an S-Class show.

>>79823230
Feel free to fuck off and die. Star Trek is about active exploration and peacemongering, not camping next to a wormhole with a deathship. DS9 is cancer and anyone who liked it should be sent to gas camps. Fuck you and fuck your ilk. Star Trek is about friendliness and peace.

>>79823087
TOS is literally dog shit

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>>79823326
Don't go on the internet and tell lies anon

>>79822131
>last five years

Holy Shit Anon you need to watch things faster

>>79823306
whoa whoa, why not both?

>>79823404
I had fun watching it like this. I got more out of it than any show I watch three seasons in the span of a month with.

>>79823424
>three seasons in the span of a month

Three seasons is like, a week's worth of viewing. Maybe 2 if you have a funeral to plan or something.

>>79823466
yeah for some people

>>79822716

I love B5, but DS9 is also really good.

>>79822920
This looks like SHIT

>>79823555
So don't watch it

>Trekkies say that the war with the Dominion was anti-Star Trek but it's won in the most Star Trek way possible: with words

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reminder that every good Trek series got a Blu-ray release (and even Enterprise got one).

meanwhile DS9 and VOY will be DVD shitters in eternity.

>>79823739
>with words

>fullscale invasion
>odo breaking in with a magic cure and using it against everyones wishes.

>>79823860
He asks the Founder to trust him and she surrenders. That's literally some Roddenberry shit right there.

>>79823739
>with words
>not with some deus ex machina wormhole gods that deleted the dominion invasion fleet

EBIN

>>79823931
shes already read his mind before using the link.
its like trusting your left arm.

>>79823935
how is it a deus ex if we knew the prophets could do magical shit since the pilot?

>>79823931
except Roddenberry wasn't afraid to show that you have to use violence to win wars

he didn't have Kirk make a speech to the Romulans, he had Kirk blow his fucking ship up
same with the Klingons

>>79824095
I blame TNG babbies being peacenik Bernie supporters. I love TNG but god damn the fans are something else

>>79824044
how is it not dem because we knew there were prophets?

>>79824136
but TNG was the same, when they had to fight they fought

later on they become more pacifists because after Wolf 359 they couldn't afford another war

If you voted for Hillary reply to this post

>>79824225
But it's always TNG fans who go "muh Roddenberry ideals", "muh space communism", "muh make love, not war"

Watch ToS.
Here's an episode list for you.
>the naked time - takes place on ship, but good
>the enemy within - takes place on ship, but good
>balance of terror - takes place on ship but really fucking good
>the squire of gothos - does not primarily take place on ship
>arena - not ship
>space seed - mostly on ship, but fucking great - second movie is sequel to this
>city on the edge of forever - not on ship, considered one of the best star trek episodes of all time
>amok time - not on ship
>mirror, mirror - not on THEIR ship....
>journey to babel - mostly on ship, but has some strong TNG qualities to it
>trouble with tribbles - not entirely on their ship
>the enterprise incident - not entirely on their ship
>day of the dove - on the ship, good klingon story though
>all our yesterdays - not on ship
Have fun

>>79822131
DS9 is the obvious place to continue. It starts where TNG left off and continues the story set up in TNG. The premise is a little diffrent, where it's more of a serialized drama with space politics set on a space station than about exploration/story of the week. It starts off a bit slow but gets pretty damn good after a while.

If that's not to your liking there's always TOS. Similar premise to TNG but in 60's style and aestetic. When it's good it's really good. When it isn't it isn't. I like it but it's not for everyone.

Don't bother with Voyager or Enterprise unless you've watched the other ones. While not all bad, the shows don't really go anywhere and don't deliver on their premises. Lots of stale filler, boring characters and reset buttons.

>>79824298
Why do you hate Gene so much? He created the whole Star Trek universe from scratch. You enjoy the Star Trek universe, don't you? Why are you so bitter against Gene?

>>79824389
He raped Grace Lee Whitney

>>79824389
I don't hate Gene, but I don't regard him as some kind of saint, or visionary.

>>79824377
>Lots of stale filler, boring characters and reset buttons
Which television show in history doesn't this apply to?

>>79824432
ds9

even the "bad" episodes are used for character development. that's why the majority in here considers it to be the best Trek series.

>>79824420
The lot of women is to be fornicated.

>>79824389
>He (Roddenberry) created the whole Star Trek universe from scratch.
No, it was him AS WELL AS D.C. Fontana, Gene L. Coon, Matt Jeffries, Robert Justman

>>79824432
Star Trek: The Next Generation

>>79824495
Allamaraine

>>79824506
No, pretty much just him. Gene was the lynchpin. Without him, Star Trek wouldn't have existed. Without the others, well, it would have still existed.

>>79824495
>contrarian redditors and the vocal minority consider it the best Trek series

>>79824495
>even the "bad" episodes are used for character development.
this
Like the one where they go to Risa which 99% of fans hate still has great dialogue and we learn why Worf is sometimes a huge pussy

>>79822675
Fuck that obongo loving sheboon. She's a disgrace for TNG.

>>79824626
Why don't you fuck off to the DS9 thread? This is a TNG thread. Go on, leave. Post elsewhere, DS9 fucking faggot.

>>79824756
>Fuck that obongo loving sheboon

wow, you're hardcore


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS-07dh9-NA

>>79824812
Go back to redd1t, shitstain.

>>79824809
Butthurt TNG babby detected no but seriously, the series don't deserve to be segregated from each other except voyager

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>>79824884

>>79824902
Ignore Threshold

Does the rest of the series really deserve to be segregated?

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>>79824809
>Thread is literally about what you should watch after TNG

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>Picard fucks a qt and ends up as some Barclay tier no-name officer

probably the best Q episode in all Trek

>>79824958
Watch TNG again because it's literally the only good one

>>79824936
Ignore the 7th season too, except the Doctor/7 of 9 ones. And Endgame, that piece of shit.

>>79823817
The most futuristic and popular series of all time can't get a HD transfer. Tell me again why I should keep watching Trek and watch Discovery?

>>79824976
Basically watch Distant Origin, the first Q one, Scorpion, Bride of Chaotica and whichever one the Doctor got to command. Ignore the rest.

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>>79823326
It's not dog shit but it is so dated it's practically as dead as most of it's cast members.
Very tough watch.

>>79823817
It's everyone's fault.
The fans for going "I'm not buying blu-rays, I'm 100% okay with my VHS tapes from the 90's!" and CBS for expecting people in -Current Year- to buy physical media

>>79825169
meant
>>79825045

>>79825191
Which is why you watch TOS after TNG and DS9. By then you're hooked, and want to know the history of the franchise

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>>79825191
shit that pic related was meant for
>>79823230

>>79824964
Tapestry is a wonderful episode. That banter between Q and Picard is fucking great.

>>79825223
>Which is why you watch TOS after TNG and DS9. By then you're hooked, and want to know the history of the franchise

I do agree. You need to be hooked in to the third rail of Trek before tackling TOS but by the time you've finished DS9 you might be ready.

>>79825215
>>79825240
In the Star Trek future, you wouldn't have even been born.

>>79825209
so DS9 never got blurays because people didn't give a shit about the TNG blurays? did it sell that bad? it's even on netflix.

no wonder every DS9 babbie is always so mad in here

>>79825191
And then they have the audacity to complain about other people being mean

>>79824964
>french chad plows every prime cunt in sight.
>goes back in time and gets last schoolgirl he missed.
>isnt punished to be an eternal beta ironically.
reeeee.

>>79825283
>>79825283
>you wouldn't have even been born.

Do go on.

>>79825302
>so DS9 never got blurays because people didn't give a shit about the TNG blurays? did it sell that bad?
The money made off the TNG blurays wasn't enough to pay for the restoration project, and the lack of fan interest, which has put CBS off from doing DS9 and Voyager.

>>79825302
I read recently that the project was truly gargantuan in price and effort, and relatively little people bought the bluray collection. So, it's just not likely DS9 will ever get the same treatment.

>>79825538
It's a shame because HD TNG is quite possibly the greatest remaster/restoration of a TV series in history, and it doesn't get the recognition it deserves.

>>79822637
you shut your whore mouth

>>79825605
I literally do not know why. It is just as you said it, the greatest, and what fan of the series couldn't appreciate how beautiful it looks after watching that shit on TV for nearly a decade! are the fans literally sleeping?!

>>79825668
mostly the fans were tired of constantly being swindled by cheap repackages so they refused something that was actually genuine

>>79825605
I agree. Illegally downloaded it and was really impressed.

>>79825937
Same, I'd like to buy it some day to see some of the features, and I know that it might be best to buy it from CBS directly in HOPES they do something with the other series... but that's a big-money ticket to stake just on hope.

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>>79825937

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>>79825409
you just described how reality works, get used to it

The only Trek we should be talking about is the JJ Abrams reboot that saved the franchise, which is also so much better than the geeky shit it was for 50 years.

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>>79827077

>>79827104
WTF is that Obama?

>>79827149
Yeah, this is his new job.

Turns out being President has very few transferable skills

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>>79822131
Some shows that are not Star Trek and fit into
>melodrama
>characters
>weird things

>Twin Peaks
An all-time /tv/ favourite it's David Lynch's take on a soap opera, lots of dream symbolism, supernatural elements, melodrama and the highest waifu per character rate of any tv-show.

>Supernatural
Two brothers and a rotating cast of side-characters hunt supernatural beings since a demon murdered their mother.
CAVEAT: Was intended to end after Season 5. The creator left the show after that season and the quality took a giant hit, it got better recently but season 6 and 7 were seriously shit and powerlevels have become beyond Dragonball levels of retarded.

>True Blood
Basically a soap opera where a telepathic waitress falls in love with a vampire, also there are lots of other supernatural beings.
Quality varies A LOT between storylines and season 3 is generally regarded as the best because of the Russel Edgington character.

>>79822484
He's from Texas though, so it cancels out.

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>>79827077
Well JJ at least knew how to make it fun and 2009 was one of, if not THE best Star Trek movie ever.

His problem was pissing off the antiques who live and die on canon and continuity. Continuity is only as good as it is if it's adding to the series, not hamstringing it.

Suffice it to say, he didn't build up the fuhrer and high praise 2009 got and instead went full Blockbuster bad guy with Into Darkness when he should've expanded on the new timeline with more Star Trek style stories.

>tl;dr JJ didn't do a whole lot wrong

>>79827188
supernatural doesn't get away with being as melodramatic as a show from the 90s and 80s gets away with it. that show just sucks.

>>79827271
His problem was fixing something that wasn't broken and regressing rather than moving forward.

Star Trek is about Gene Roddenberry's ideals, and moving forward. Why remake TOS? That's just capitalism.

Pulanski was the best doctor.

>>79822920
god this looks awful.

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>>79824587
The prime mover in an endeavor shouldn't be considered the prime maker in it.
Gene gave us a canvas, but most of the writers that added to TOS, the TOS movies, and the TNG writers added far more to his original painting which was a feint blur in comparison to what they did.
He was also very much a hypocrite about his own ideals.

>>79827486
If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business – you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don't do on our own.

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>>79824909
>/pol/and in a /trek/ thread

Based Wends

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>>79827358
Supernatural became shit, Seasons 1-3 were great Television and 4-5 were still top comfy

>>79822920
starfleet command was a good game series

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>>79827611
We are not in disagreement with anything you typed there.

Gene gets too much credit.

If he were alive today, his Twitter would be filled with #SupportBLM, #TransBathrooms, and #SuluWasOriginallyGay similar hashtags.

>>79827913
Uhura was a middle finger to Hollywood at the time though

DS9. I'd argue it has the best villains out of any of the Star Trek shows.

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>>79823935
But that didn't win the war.

Watch the show instead of reading memes on the 4chins.

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>>79828004
Friendly reminder:
>Gene wanted men making out in "Encounter at Farpoint"
>Gene hated God so much that he needed Q to deal with his endless hatred of God even though no one else wanted Q
>Gene wanted no interpersonal conflict, not even minor disagreements
>Gene was the one who demanded dresses on men and women instead of a formality that existed by the end of Season 6
>Gene gave the franchise to Berman who, despite his flaws and agreement with Gene's vision, knew it would fail if it went down that route

We should all thank Rick Bergman and Mike Piller for saying no to this madman after he died.

>>79827077
Did you know that JJ Abrams is a Jew?

>>79828309
They would have lost the war then and there. Maybe it's you who should watch the show instead.

>>79828514
That's when they didn't lose, but we're talking about when they actually won.

>>79828458

Yeah, I think that's why they always say "JewJew Abrahams" all the time but I'm not 100% on that.

>>79828352
fuck off berman u suck

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>>79827271
>he didn't build up the fuhrer

???

>>79828352
Gene wanted Troi to have three tits

>>79828570
A war is never won by one event.

>>79828755
It was won in a single event, when the Founder surrendered. And she did so not because she had lost militarily, but because she was persuaded by Odo, who in turn had been saved in an act of friendship from Bashir and O'Brien.

Frienship and love won the war, not phasers or torpedoes or even Prophets.

>>79828857
Wrong, that's what ended the war not what won it.

See I can play your retardedly pedantic game too.

>>79828748
>fuhrer
>abrams

what did anon mean by this?

>>79825937
It saddens me deeply that I'll never get DS9 on Blu-ray, but at least there's the current indiegogo for the documentary.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/what-we-left-behind-star-trek-deep-space-nine-doc#/

>>79829083
Let's go with both. It both ended the war and won the war.

That event 1.5 years earlier did neither because it was, once again, 1.5 years earlier.

>>79829252
Yeah and I guess that event happened out of thin air. Brilliant anon lmao now you making me laugh.

>>79822675
>defends anal rape of a thirteen year old
>laughs at a man getting mutilated

>>79829202
How much did you donate? I donated $0 because I hate Deep Shit 9

>>79829202

I just donated 10 bucks, thanks for sharing.

>>79829462
Don't worry, my friend, they have already been funded to 258% of their goal.

>>79829516
No, they have tiers that they've yet to reach, such as the $425,000 tier.

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>>79829452
Whatever you say, but the Prophets still didn't win the war.

They even say in the show that you're wrong.

>>79829634
That's just a stretch goal. They already made enough to pay for the documentary and some extra goodies.

>>79829202
Imagine being so desperate you have to beg people for money so you can talk to them about the only time you were relevant

>no Sicko

lol

>>79829750
Which goodies will you get?

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>>79829779

You sound bitter anon.

You don't think they enjoy being able to be lauded endlessly about something they did earlier in their careers?

Everyone donating sure wants to see it!

>>79829462
The $80 package. I figured hey, why not. I've watched random episodes off and on ever since they got it on streaming, so I've gotten my money's worth over the years.

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>>79829895
so which one of those guys are you? or just a shill?

>>79829897
>I figured hey, why not.
This is how Western society descends into Satanism.

>>79829964
Spirit or regular?

>>79830005
>>79830007
Can you believe that people in a Star Trek thread would like Star Trek and spend their money on Star Trek?

Absolutely astounding.

>>79830120
I can't believe people would spend money on ds9. A series that didn't even make it to bluray.

Which Trek show is about the shopping mall in outer space? My buddy says it sucks.

>>79830255
Neither did Voyager, but that's one of my favorites too. Voyager might even be my fifth-favorite Star Trek.

>>79830255
D[shit]9 isn't even proper Star Trek. Don't listen to that guy, he is not a real startrek fan

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>>79830278
>Which Trek show is about the shopping mall in outer space?

It's not actually Star Trek. It's called Babylon 5 and it's surprisingly engaging.

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>>79830305

VOYager is actually superior to DS9 during S4-S5.

>deal with it

>>79830346
from which Doctor Who episode comes that?

>>79830435

"To Serve Man"

>>79823013
>DS9 fans have been shitposting and antagonizing other fans for YEARS
I never see this, but I always see the opposite.

We have someone claiming RIGHT NOW that DS9 fans aren't "real" Star Trek fans. That's antagonism.

>>79822131
>ELDER GOD TIER
TOS
>GREAT TIER
Enterprise
>EH TIER
TNG
>WHAT IS THIS SHIT TIER
DS9
>PLEASE MAKE IT STOP TIER
Voyager

>>79830524
>I never see this

t. someone that joined 4chan in 2014
sorry but I was here since 2004 at least

>>79830393
>it's a reset button episode
>it's an infinite resources episode
>it's a "Nerf the Borg" episode
I don't think so.

>>79830593
Question: What's the best way to spot a newfriend?

Answer: When they insist that they're an oldfriend.

>>79830683
so I can't tell the truth? I landend on /a/ back then because of Rozen Maiden

Anyone got the TNG and/or DS9 episode guides? I've seen them all already and the guides are super handy.

>>79829455
explain

I assume you're talking about those hags on The View

>>79822131
DS9, Voyager, ENT, ORIGINAL, TNG, DS9

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>>79822637
>the best villain

So much this. Gul Dukat was the perfect foil for Sisko. What a great actor.

https://youtu.be/bP0brMrR_QE
Spoilers in video

And to make a case for DS9, the first couple seasons were a bit dull but once you start getting to the later seasons that cover the Dominion war arc, you have some amazing space battles and real in-depth looks into the grittier nature of war and espionage.

>>79823739
People act as if the Dominion War was the only one to ever happen in the Trekverse

>Klingon Federation Cold War
>Romulan Earth War
>Klingon Civil War
>Khitomer Massacre
>Wolf 359
>Federation Cardassian War

The best way to test Star Treks ideals is to see how people stick by them in times of conflict

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>>79830777
Here you are, 4chan-recommended and /tv/-approved.

>>79830856

Enjoy dying alone and unloved you ultracuck fagbabby.

>>79830913
Thanks friend, but I was hoping for the list of all of them. "The one with the. . ."
This one is good too.

>>79830909
No anon, the best way is to see them reject those ideals because no show should ever be about the positive traits of humanity but always focus on the bad ones like all television does.

>>79830913
>listing lwxana troi eps
good idea, this way people know which episodes to absolutely avoid

>>79824587
I bet you think George Lucas is the sole visionary behind Star Wars and Matt Groening wrote every episode of The Simpsons

>>79830992
Do you need a time-out?

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>>79830611
>>79830611
>it's magical board game episode
>it's a Jake episode
>it's a whiny Bajoran holohoax zomg we were literally genocided for the fifth week in a row episode

Sorry DeepNigNiner, not today

>>79822773

I did and I unironically enjoy both a great deal

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>>79831025
>always focus on the bad ones
>always
Did you miss the part where the war was won through The Power of Friendship?

>>79831182
Me too.

B5 is the perfect green to DS9's purple.

>>79830777
https://m.imgur.com/a/XwHGU

>>79831380
Haha, that's perfect, thanks anon.
Same here. I'd love for a remastered B5 with better color correction and non-cheeseball Amiga-era graphics.

>>79830547
>ELDER GOD TIER
>TOS

No, this product has expired.
Please discard after date on label.

>>79831380

well said

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>>79830856

DS9=stinky space hag

>>79830878
Those lifts always seemed extremely dangerous. Cardassians don't have proper safety regulations.

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>>79831825
Those lifts were a fucking nightmare if you've had the unfortunate displeasure of watching Liveleak China elevator videos.

Seriously, I worried for the actors losing fingers, an arm, or a HEAD on that set.

I could've imagined hearing a Vic Morrow story coming out of Paramount during shooting of an Ops heavy episode and it being an extra so they treat him IRL like a red shirt.

>"Extra dies filming DS9, Producers report"

>>79831249
>or how the writers had to write themselves out of the hole they dug themselves in

>>79832144
What hole?

>>79832258
a conflict the Federation couldn't win

>>79832354
But the Federation was winning.

Bashir and O'Brien just won it quickly and peacefully, instead of the slow and violent way.

>>79831157

As meh as Jake is, he's still better than most of the characters on Voyager, sadly.

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>>79832604
>As meh as Jake is, he's still better than most of the characters on Voyager, sadly.

Every single character on Voyager is superior to Jake in almost every respect, even Harry Kim or Kes because the actors can do one thing that he couldn't: act.

>and even if you don't believe Wang and others could act, compared to Jake, it was like watching glorified extras compared to a church play child

>>79833179
>watch DS9
>Jake is just a kid being a kid
Eh... okay.

>watch Voyager
>a pedophile fucks a kid
Ew, no thanks.

Better Jake than that, or Chakotay spouting some made-up Armenian crap, or Harry whining that he's a Special Boy who deserves to sit in the Special Chair, or Paris being the cool rebel who's too cool for rules and likes the 20th century because it's the coolest century.

Voyager should have kept Kes and dropped Harry.

>>79833179
I'll take Jake and Nog getting told off my mall security over Worf as single sitcom father

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>>79833502
>I'll take Jake and Nog getting told off my mall security over Worf as single sitcom father

I knew Worf was on Voyager.

>>79822375
>Also watch DS9, TOS, Movies, Voyager, Enterprise in that order.

No.

Watch DS9. Then stop. You're done.
Don't subject yourself to garbage.

>>79833596
TOS isn't garbage.

You just haven't matured enough to be ready for it.

>>79833693

It's basically unwatchable

>>79833596
>false flagging this obviously

Let's bump with quality posting, zir.

>>79833794
>You just haven't matured enough to be ready for it.

>>79833408
>Paris likes the 20th century
>bad

>Sisko is obsessed with baseball and racism
>this is perfectly fine

>>79833502
or WESLEY

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>>79833596
>TOS
>Enterprise
>garbage

kill urself my man

>>79833870
>Paris likes the 20th century
>bad
When does this come up? The only thing I can think of is people calling his Captain Proton holoprogram corny.

>>79833933
that JUST haircut

>>79833933
>ENT
>not garbage

is it time for ENT spamming now?

>>79833870
>"Sisko is obsessed with racism"
>he mentions it in 2 episodes out of 170
You're more obsessed than he is.

>>79833969
"Wow, a 20th century truck, floating in space! I love the 20th century!"
"Wow, a 20th century celebrity, kidnapped by aliens! I love the 20th century!"
"Wow, a 20th century movie theater showing 20th century movies! I love the 20th century!"
"Wow, a 20th century television set showing 20th century TV shows! I love the 20th century!"

>>79834126
Woah, 4 examples out of 172 episodes

truly worse than DS9

why are you faggots so dishonest

>>79834032

underrated series desu, except the first season which is mostly shit

>>79822131
If you can't tell already by the number of people recommending DS9 and the equal number of contrarians shitting the bed over it, you should probably watch DS9 next.

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>>79834032
>is it time for ENT spamming now?

THIS IS NOW AN ENTERPRISE THREAD:

THE VULCAN INCENSE HAS BEEN LIT AND WE JUST LEFT STARBASE

THIS IS YOUR DAILY REMINDER TO LUBE UP YOUR BEAGLES, POLARIZE YOUR HULL PLATING, AND HEAT UP YOUR DECON CHAMBERS TO SKIN TEMP (308.65 K)
THE CHEESE HAS BEEN SLIT AND IT'S TIME TO SLAM YOUR PLOMEK BROTH, TAKE A TOKE & MARK OFF YOUR CHECKLIST
TO POP YOUR:

STARFLEET RATIONS
ANDORRIAN ALE (VINTAGE 2125)
CORDRAZINE HYPOSPRAY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8OpsPok6iQ <---- HIT PLAY PETAQ!

>FAITH OF THE HEART BLASTS THROUGH YOUR HOUSE
>YOU INSTINCTIVELY JUMP INTO YOUR GRAVITY PLATED BASKETBALL COURT AND GYM, FITTED WITH WATER POLO POOL AND A PON FARR BATTLE CAGE
>AFTER YOUR INTENSE WORKOUT YOU CALL OVER ADMIRAL FORREST USING SUBSPACE BEFORE GETTING INTO YOUR HYPERSLEEP EXPANSE STASIS BIOBEDS AND PACKING YOUR MOUTH TO THE BRIM WITH TRIP'S FLORIDA FRESH PECAN PIE FOLLOWED SHORTLY AFTERWARDS BY ALDEBERAN MUD LEECH ENEMAS JUST AS THE TRELLIUM-D KICKS IN AS YOU LISTEN TO ZEPHRAM COCHRANE AND ADMIRAL GARDENER HYPOTHESIZE THAT THE ICONIANS = EGYPTIAS AND THE ARK OF THE COVENANT IS HIDDEN ON TAU CETI

DUDE AWW SHUCKS LMAO
DUDE PHASED ION CANNONS LITERALLY ENCRUSTED WITH TRITANIUM AND DUNKED IN OSMIUM ALLOY FIRING OFF OF THE SAUCER SECTION COLONEL GREEN STYLE

>"AMBASSADOR SOVAL, JUST END IT ALL, I THINK YOU ARE A WORTHLESS VULCAN AND I HATE YOU, BUT COME BACK ON SUBSPACECAST SO I CAN BLOW YOU THE FUCK OUT OF THE QUADRANT YET AGAIN AND REDUCE YOU TO GREEN JELLY"
>"TUH POL” BEARER, JUST TAKE THE EASY WAY OUT. YOUR MAPS ARE OVER. IT'S TIME FOR THE PHASER OVERLOAD RETIREMENT PLAN"
Johnathan Archer, 2015
>YOU ARE NOW PICTURING CAPTAIN ARCHER NAKED ON TOROTHAS PLAYING GESKANA AND HYPERVENTILATING IN THE DESERT
Brought to you by B&B Productions©
cue the Perfect Strangers theme

>>79834235
Seriously anon, it gets pretty embarrassing. When they're in staff meetings he stops the exposition to give a 20th century analogy, and then stops to explain the analogy to the cast, then winks at the camera and says "20th century history is sort of my thing..."
It's the reason the delta flyer has a stick-and-rudder and toggle switches, because literally muh nostalgia.

>>79822375
>DS9 is the only peer of TNG
But that's wrong? Voyager is set in the same time period.

>>79834126
its the goddamn star trek universe where racism doesn't even exist anymore why is he still even whining about that shit? he had an entire delusional fit about the 50s and racism, he wouldn't visit Vic's club because of "muh 50s racism". hes a goddamn starfleet captain what """"privilege"""" does he lack that others are getting that makes him continue bitching?

>>79834235
"Wow, we've traveled back in time to the 20th century! Don't worry, everyone, I'm an expert on this era!"
"Hey everyone, check out my new holoprogram, an early 20th-century Irish village! Everybody loves the 20th century, right?"
"Don't forget my 20th century auto workshop program, complete with 20th century radio music programs!"

>why are you faggots so dishonest
I can't wait to see next thread when you whine again that DS9 fans are sooo antagonistic.

>>79825668
Because it was really overpriced.

>>79822920
Wow that was bad.

>>79834543
>wahhh a character as a passion and gets brought up sometime when is appropriate!

the horror

>>79834543
>an early 20th-century Irish village! Everybody loves the 20th century, right?

Fair Haven was never about 20th century shit like cars and hawaiian shirts. Tom's obsession w/ 20th century tech = programming an Irish village (which also looked more like the 19th century than 20th)

>>79823555
>>79827467
>>79827862

Nobody ever watched Star Trek for the CGI.

>>79825409

Do you actually talk like this or think like this with buzzwords all day?

>>79834499
He didn't like that Vic's program was historically inaccurate. You've never seen people on /tv/ complain about film and television being historically inaccurate?

Kasidy eventually convinced him to go though. If he was able to move on, why can't you?

>>79834675
>Anon asks for examples
>Anon receives examples
>Anon complains about receiving examples
Fascinating.

>>79834825
>Paris being passionate about something is bad
>Sisko being obsessed with racism and things not being historically accurate is fine tho

>>79822131
Deep Space Nine. Some good characters with genuine friendships (Basir & O'brien are the best bros in all of Trek) and even a couple of decent romances. Top tier enemies (Dukat) and great recurring races (Changelings, Vorta, Jem H'Dar). Also more serialization and a great War arc that extends over multiple seasons.

Kids that aren't as annoying as Wesley or Alexander. The best Klingon episodes (Blood Oath), Fun throwback episodes (Trials and Tribble-ations, Crossover), exploring Cardassian culture and just great TNG style morality episodes (Duet).

Would not recommend Voyager next. It's like TNG but worse. Neat premise but let down by boring characters, uninteresting aliens and the big reset button.

Enterprise is a prequel best saved for last. TOS is so different it's really up to you when you watch it. The original movies are their own beast too.

>>79834890
>anon complains about something happening all the time
>gives less than 10 examples in a series with 170 episodes
>thinks he is right

This is illogical

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>>79834890
You're right about Sisko, but I never had a problem with Paris' liking the 20th century. I think that's literally your personal bias bleeding into making an objective opinion of the character.
Granted, early on, they were forceful about it an a couple of episodes but afterwards it was just like his hobby so why don't you quit harping unnecessarily about a character having a hobby.

>>79834126
NGL, haven't seen these because I'm using an episode guide. In total I'm watch only 53 episodes and I'm still struggling to make it home.

>>79834942
>not the first post from this IP in this thread
>is DS9 shilling

How desperate are you people

>>79835128
The majority of /trek/ posters like DS9.

How desperate are you?

>>79835216
Nice fallacy that you can't even prove
I guess that's why you people have to samefag like new posters repeating how good DS9 is, because you are the "majority"

>>79822131
Deep Space Nine

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>>79835216
I like DS9 but it is by far the least rewatchable of the new era series (except for maybe Voyager).
It's probably my number 2 or 3 (tie between ENT) but I never could watch it more than twice without skipping to Dukat episodes or specifically good ones because of the serialization towards the end of the third season.

>>79835323
>Nice fallacy that you can't even prove
We've had polls, newfriend.

Here's an example:
http://www.strawpoll.me/6572205/r

>>79834825
did he really move on tho? why is it even on his mind. how many centuries has it been since his people have been been effected by slavery. why is it a thing a starfleet camptain even thinks about? hasnt he lived a privilged decent life? what stone was left unturned that hes still thinking about muh racism more than half a millenium later?

>>79825538
>>79825302
>>79825209

I don't think DS9 was shot on film. Therefore you can't make it HD.

Also, TNG is one of Netflix's crown jewels, imho.

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>>79835444
I like how the creator of the poll saved himself the heartache of having his favourite series shat upon by including every series in tandem with another.

What a useless poll.

>>79835216
>/trek/ posters
trek threads went to shit the minute you faggots turned them into generals

>>79835499
>did he really move on tho?
He went with his friends to the club, didn't he?

I don't know, maybe you didn't watch the episode, and you only read about it somewhere.

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I haven't seen DS9 yet but I find Terry Farrel very attractive.

>>79835621
If you want a 1-on-1 poll, there are also these:

http://www.strawpoll.me/6526848/r
http://www.strawpoll.me/5737594/r

It looks like the /trek/ majority thinks Voyager is the worst Star Trek.

>>79834477
DS9 begins with O'brien leaving the enterprise. I still laugh at Picard giving him this emotional goodbye and O'brien's like 'Can I go now, sir?'

And Worf came aboard DS9 the year after TNG ended.

Voyager begins with Janeway involved in dealing with the Maquis, which came about in DS9's second season.

But I think >>79822375 meant peer in terms of overall quality.

>>79834330
There were elements of Enterprise that worked. But they tried too hard to make it Star Trek-y while still trying to be Stargate/Farscape.

>>79835499
It's still a part of earths history and his heritage. In Trek bigotry is a thing of the past but that doesn't mean people have just forgotten and will never bring it up.

And again, his girlfriend immediately checked him and told him he was being ridiculous. It's just a holodeck program for fun. And Sisko realized he was hung up for no good reason and decided to go.

>>79835630
>you faggots
A /trek/ thread turns to shit when you turn antagonistic, and then you blame others for your own behavior because you have no sense of personal responsibility.

>>79835658
all he did was accept a fantasy so that he can help out his friends. doesn't sound like hes moved on, hes just putting it aside. either way WHY IS IT AN ISSUE STILL FOR HIM HES NEVER BEEN DISCRIMINATED OR OPPRESSED AGAINST.

>>79836346
>personal responsibility
>on an anonymous image board

>>79822637
>best characters
>worst trek

Shame.

>>79836346
>said by people that started this mess with their constant shitposting about all the other series

>>79836440
Why is it still an issue for you? Have you been oppressed or discriminated against?

>>79836269
So it's the 20th century but someone having it as an hobby is bad but being hung up about bigotry even if it hasn't existed for centuries is fine

Also all the shows had a character with had a passion for the past

>>79836537
somewhere in your mind you thought this argument made sense or refuted anything I've said ...

>>79836506
>shitposting about a series
Not a problem.

>shitposting about a series' fans
Your actions are not equivalent. You are being antagonistic.

>>79836697
Somewhere in your mind, you thought that you could waste our time by asking if Sisko ~really~ moved on even though we all saw him move on.

>>79836821
except he didn't he just put it aside but didn't change his convictions

>>79837029
What convictions? "Racism is bad"?

>>79836715
>it's okay when we did it!

>>79837157
Did what?

Can you point to some posts that are shitposting about Voyager's fans?

>>79836679
I don't know where you're getting this criticism of Tom's interest in the 20th century from but it's not from me.

And Sisko not wanting to go to the program because of historical inaccuracy was dumb and I'm glad he was called out for it.

The only other time I remember black oppression being brought up was the Benny Hill episode, which was some vision from the Prophets and also an excuse to do a period piece.

The writers wanted to address the elephant in the room; DS9 being the first Trek to have a black character as the main character but it wouldn't make sense to do it in the post racial 23rd century, so they did an episode set in the '50s. One episode. Seems like you're the one hung up on it.

>>79822131
Maybe the original for a laugh. Voyager 9 and Genesis suck. Watch the original movies and quit while your ahead.

>>79837328
>it didn't happen in this thread so it never happened

I guess it's a coincidence that all shitposting images are made by DS9 fans but you probably never saw the one with the flags either

>>79835507
DS9 was shot on 35 mm film, but edited on standard def video tape. Just like TNG.

>>79837369
>And Sisko not wanting to go to the program because of historical inaccuracy was dumb
I'd say it was dumb of Sisko but not dumb of the show. It was smart of the show to include it, then have Kasidy shoot his shit down.

>>79837115
Why do certain Trek fans get so upset when characters make this point or reference historic events around racial intolerance.

Every series has made reference to the horrors of slavery or the holocaust or inquisitions or crusades and everything else.

If you're mad that Trek is addressing racism, you're watching the wrong series.

>>79837543
Agreed

>>79822131
Deep Space Nine is okay. TNG is simply the best of the bunch. The others are garbage. Of course, the 60's version is a guilty pleasure.

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>>79837782
DS9 is good. TNG is great. ENT is good. VOY is okay. TOS is good/okay. TAS is for kids. STD is for SJW.

>>79837620
Except it was never as heavy handed as a main protagonist complaining about "his people" (setting them apart from the others) being the victims of something centuries ago

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>>79837465
You mean this image that you love to post all the time?

This image is shitposting about the series, which is not a problem.

You're shitposting about the fans themselves, which is antagonistic.

>>79838012
>he doesn't know that's not the original version
>it was fine when we shitposted because we were shitposting "against the series!!" it was fine when we turned these threads into a wasteland but now you should stop and make us circlejerk in peace!

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how would you rate his performance in this scene?

>>79822947
Don't mess with Sisko's MotherF!@king Pimp Hand!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgIOdcBkkzg

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>>79838208
I know you said that "all" shitposting images are made by DS9 fans, yet here I am, proving you wrong.

It's just crazy that you get offended when someone says "Voyager is dumb", so you retaliate by saying "DS9's fans are dumb".

Your actions are not equivalent, and you are being more antagonistic than the people you complain about.

>>79839087
>another image made after years of DS9fags shitposting about other series

really made me think
not surprised that fans of Sisko are so dishonest

I'm currently watching DS9, previously watched TNG and TOS. TNG was my Trek as a kid so it's got a special place in my heart. I loved how campy TOS was. So far, I've been impressed at how quickly DS9 got good compared to TNG. Quark is definitely my favorite character.

Do Odo and Kira ever become likeable? Were they well received when DS9 was airing? Also, does DS9 get better or worse after Worf signs on? Worf was my favorite in TNG if that matters.

The best series is TAS

>>79822716
D9 is the best because its black. The lead guy sucks as an actor.

>>79838292
>The Sisko's Timeline is Irrelevant
>The Sisko is Fake News

>>79822716
>all this general faggotry

>>79839203
Let's cut to the chase, I'm sure that everyone else is sick of our argument.

>shitposting about other series
>shitposting about other series' fans
Tell me: Are these the same, or is there a difference?

>fans of Sisko are so dishonest
Tell me: When you claimed that "all" shitposting images are made by DS9 fans, was that not dishonest?

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>>79839363
Kira was likable from the end of the first season.

Because they were clean.

>almost to bump limit
>no sexual organs

>>79839736
you should stop shitposting completely
but I know that would be asking too much from DS9 fans

>>79839363
DS9 finds it feet relatively quickly. I was glad when Jadzia told Bashir once and for all, she will never fuck him.

Odo becomes a lot more sympathetic and conflicted. Kira pretty much stays the same but learns that not all Cardassians...

I like the Klingon episodes on DS9 more than the ones from TNG which were almost always either Worf restoring his family name and teaching his son.

How far through are you?

>>79840055
If I agreed to stop shitposting, would you agree to stop shitposting too?

For the sake of all future threads, please answer the questions in >>79839736.

>>79839736
>shitposting about other series
>shitposting about other series' fans
>Tell me: Are these the same, or is there a difference?

No, people have attached their egos to their favourite Trek and are antoginized when people call it shit. Just the way it is.

>>79840250
>Jadzia wouldn't fuck Bashir even though she fucks a guy with visible brains, Morn, Worf, her ex-wife, Morn again,
>Ezri fucks Bashir

>>79830547
Tumblrtards like DS9 because the main characters black and Voyager because the Captains a chick. DS9 is boring and Voyager is stupid.

>>79823013

>Persona

The /v/ menace reveals itself

>>79822205
Recently caught "The Changeling" again, one of the best eps of the original series and it took place entirely on the ship.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw3zzMWOIvk

>>79840439
oh and she admits she almost fucked quark

>>79840660
Dude that is some shit acting.

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>>79840661
No one *almost* fucks Quark ;^)

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I've started watching voyager again on Netflix and for some reason i decided to watch the first season last,
anyone think its so much better than the rest?
like i'm legit enjoying this, the episode called Cathexis even got me really spooked when pic related happened .

>>79840250
I just started on S3. I think Kira just rubs me the wrong way because she reminds me too much of what people are like in the real world, as opposed to people in pre-DS9 Trek.

>>79839363
>>79840038
Yes, they tone down her anti-Fed shit after S1 and push that on Kai Wynn.

Top Tier Kira are basically fakes:
1) Holodeck Bond Girl KGB Colonel Anastasia Komananov
2) HyperSex Attendant Mirror Kira

Worst Kira's are whenever there's weird sexual tension with her and Odo, and also with her and Obrien (when she was Keiko's surrogate Womb). Writers are always creating crazy triangles for with her.

Actress is pretty qt though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2uiKo2KxVk

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>>79841315
>Kira just rubs me the wrong way
I wish she would rub me the wrong way

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>>79841677
why was he so qt

>>79841045
>QUARKED
Rules of Acquisition are quite the aphrodisiac.

>>79835507
Literally all of star trek was shot on film except the last season of enterprise.

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>>79842207
>tfw quark gets a vulcan qt3.14 wet using the rules of acquisition to beat her the fuck out with logic
Based Quark

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>>79840439
She fucked all those aliens over this brown qt. She deserved to die.

>>79842731
indeed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdQcGzbpN7s

>>79822131
>wonder where I should go next

After TNG, obviously DS9, they tie together.

Voyager is shit. Some people still defend it. They are retards, don't trust them.

After DS9 watch the TNG movies and then move on to the TOS movies. If you can handle the TOS movies, watch the original show.

After all that, if you still want to punish yourself, watch Enterprise. Or Voyager. But it's wasting your own time.

>>79830878
>later seasons that cover the Dominion war arc, you have some amazing space battles

>tfw DS9 had bigger and better space combat than the movies

Fuck the movies.

>>79844058
No personal attacks, please.

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>>79828352
>Watching the early episodes of TNG where male extras in miniskirt uniforms would walk around in the background (usually as fast as they could with their faces obscured)

>>79844231
>amazing space battle
>ships flying around with no real formations or anything

>>79844231
>>79830878
>>79822920
The CGI porn was great. They were the best in 90's TV SciFi, since they got Foundation Imaging (B5's guys) with a higher budget.

>>79822131
>>79844058
Yes TNG and DS9 tie together with the crossover characters.

I really like the comfy-factor of DS9 with it's many side characters. That was the real draw. You could tell the writers gave a shit about them.

Contrast that with VOY...I think one of the writers described the difference between DS9 and VOY was the attitude in the writers room.

>>79845884
Meanwhile in the voyager writer room
>what are we gonna do guys, we've got 6 more scripts to do
>any ideas?
>[heavy silence]
>alright another episode where they maybe find a way home but it doesn't work out

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>>79846116

but VoyaGer is good

>>79846116
I couldn't find the interview (I think it was Bryan Fuller), but that sounds about right. He said that while he was eager to write stories for Star Trek everyone else was treating it like a chore.

>Sold on some false hope
>Get into trouble
>Technobabble here, technobabble there.
>Fire some irreplaceable torps for good measure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIGxMENwq1k

>Continue their merry way

>>79847902
Bryan Fuller on writing for Star Treks shows:

>When I was watching Deep Space Nine– I think it’s one of the best incarnations of Star Trek, and I have affection for all of them, but Deep Space Nine has a very special heart because I think they were primarily character-based, more than any of the other shows. And I think Next Generation at its peak was some of the best television that has ever been, but Deep Space Nine spoke to me on a more intimate level. And I’m not sure what it was, but I just understood the math of storytelling, because storytelling is mathematics. Like, you have to build, and you have to subtract, and divide, and there’s all sorts of math to telling a story, and it just clicked.

>They let me into the writers’ room, and it was Ira Behr who was like “Okay, we’ll give this guy a chance and he can be in the writers’ room.” And it was interesting to be in a writers’ room for the very first time. And what was great about the Deep Space Nine writers’ room was that they were all fans of Star Trek and you were with people who loved the program, whereas on Voyager there was sort of an attitude of you know, [disgusted] “It’s Star Trek” and all, you know. And I was just like “What are you talking about? You’re lucky to be here.” So Deep Space Nine were the fans and then Voyager was a little bit of like, you know, “We’re better than this” and I was like “No you’re not. None of us are.”