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>"We used to make shit in this country. Now we just put

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>"We used to make shit in this country. Now we just put our hand in the next guys pocket"

Was he right?
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Yes he was right
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nothing is made in america except mostly shitty hollywood garbage and cheeseburgers
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Yes, he was alt-right.
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>>79681636
defs a trump voter
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he would have voted trump
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>>79681568
yes

also do people really put raw eggs in their beer?
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>>79681687
to sober up
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>>79681687
Wut

Ive heard of a prairie oyster cocktail you use for hangovers that has a raw egg in it. Ive never heard of a raw egg in a beer.
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>>79681676
>>79681679
Literal retards.
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>>79681723

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFhO7EU08Tg#t=12s
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>>79681568
Redpill me on season 2 of The Wire:

More than ten years after it aired, is David Simon's elegy to the blue collar American still relevant?

Did people like Frank Sobotka, Horseface, and that black guy they always butted heads with ruin everything for the next generation with their cronyism and nepotism, or is there a legitimate reason why senior members deserve the first pick of the shifts, the seat at the decision-making table, the power?

Would Ziggy have been cut out for college? He seemed to be the only stevedore who knew how to work a digital camera, maybe there was a future for him as an early adapter to the changing times.

What happened to Delores and her bar, AKA the place where Frank laundered the ill-gotten cash through to the union guys who weren't getitng shifts so they could feed their families. Was she arrested as well? The show never mentioned it IIRC.

The IBS Local 1514 talked about the "good old days" constantly, but all of their stories seem horrific to an outsider (me). From some tragedy relating to an injury on the job, or a violent protest, to punishing their body with drugs and alcohol to no doubt numb their aching bodies, it seems like the Stevedores weren't living the best of lives. Could it be implied that moving away from humans doing manual labor is a good thing in the long run?

I finished the season for the 3rd time last night and am dealing with some powerful emotions today, with the failure of the American industrial force on Nicky Sobotka's shoulders. I have to know it will be okay.

Also, I was very upset that Nicky showed up in season 5 for two minutes, looking 10x more attractive and fit. Given his situation and prospects at the end of season 2, I was expecting him to look a lot fucking worse. In season 2 he looked like Nicky Sobotka. In season 5 he looked like an actor.
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>>79681687
>>79681916
Huh well a simple search on the internet says it's a great hangover remedy. A beer in the morning helps the headaches and stuff and the raw egg helps gets rid of the shit that contributes to the hangover. It has a lot of the proteins to neutralize them. So raw eggs are good for hangovers, a beer is good for hangovers, so they just combine them I guess.
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>>79681687
Does drinking raw egg help you get in shape?
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>>79681636
>>79681676
>>79681679
>delusion

Sanders 100%
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>>79682151

>Sanders
>not someone who supported outsourcing, illegal immigration amnesty and H1B abuse

He probably would have called that guy a "racist" for being white and working-class, too.
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>>79681946
>Redpill
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>>79682199
Nah you read it.
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>>79682151
pretty sure he's not gonna vote for the guy who said white people have no idea what it's like to be poor
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>>79681622
America is the world's second-largest manufacturer. Where did this "nothing gets made in America" meme come from?
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>>79681946
One of the other dock guys shows up in S5 as a homeless guy for like 5 seconds as well.
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>>79681830
kill yourself cuck
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>>79682151

I'm pretty sure Frank could have seen through Bernie's nonsense and realized that Bernie considers him to be one of the 1%.
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>>79681568

it's a nice line but the US economy is more productive today than in the 1960s
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>>79682353
Automation.

Doesn't make a difference to the average Joe if the plant's still running but doesn't need him.
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>>79682353
Because low-skilled decent paying manufacturing jobs have nearly disappeared off the face of the earth when they used to be something anyone could get If they just showed up to a factory and asked the boss in the 50's and 60's
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>>79682989
there were troubles with work shortages in the 50s and 60s as well. hence On the Waterfront.
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>>79682997
We look back on it with roes tinted glasses, obviously it wasn't perfect everywhere all the time but that doesn't mean It wasn't easier generally speaking.
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>>79682953
Also outsourcing to India, China etc. Real money is in shit like finance now and decent money that laborers used to make is now only in desk jobs, services etc.
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Fuck Ziggy.
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he's right to an extent

America still has a thriving film industry, television industry and software/engineering industry.
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Definitely a Trump supporter.
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>>79682829
No shit, it's called computers
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>>79682829

Yeah can't wait for that sweet coal industry to light up again. Trump science!
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>>79683324
literally unironically the best written tv character ever
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90% of the reason why industrial stuff left is the fucking unions, fucking liberal regulation, or boomers replaced by non-white immigrants

Affirmative action means that you can't run factories in any American city, because you'll be forced to hire blacks/hispanics
Forcing people to hire women is also another disaster
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>>79683396
Literally what level of reddit are you on right now
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>>79682122
No, exercise does.
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>>79682199
Go back to sleep.
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>>79683413
So what you're saying is the main reason industry moved to shitholes on the opposite side of the planet where they can pay people slave wages, and the people will be happy to get said slave wages, and the local governments won't interfere because government officials are getting paid a king's ransom compared to the slave wages (yet still being bought cheap) is because people in the US weren't happy with the slave wages and the government set down laws forcing employers to not treat their employees like slaves?
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>>79683413

Americans siding with exploitative businesses instead of their fellow workers is the ultimate cucking
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>>79682151
>the all american POLISH immigrant is going to vote for communism
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>>79682353
>>America is the world's second-largest manufacturer.

Of what? I guarantee, nothing in my house was made in America. Don't get me wrong you design tons.

But do you export anything that you manufacture?
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>>79683396
it was hur turn, if only literally hitler hadn't won we'd be powering our country on lbqt+ rainbows and diversity dreams not fossil fuels
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>>79684490
Americans don't want to be "workers" forever. American dream. Fuck off.
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>>79681946
They were just stuck in their mentality that what they did was really important. Most of them had no real opportunities.

Like you said, most of them were borderline retarded, they had no education and no desire for education, and probably couldn't have done anything else and made a decent living.

There's a large number of people that rely on those types of jobs because they can't do anything else. My hometown is full of them. Most of them can't write beyond a 3rd grade level and many of them can't even read. I work in the public sector and see this shit all the time.
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>>79684532
>But do you export anything that you manufacture?

Yes. The US is the world's 2nd-largest exporter (3rd if you count the entire European Union as a single entity)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_exports
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>>79684578
Scary to think most of the world is people like that, who can only lead a life with this kind of undignified and slowly-killing work.
Too many people, way too many people, lads.
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>>79684574

>if I suck off millionaires maybe they'll let me become one too!

99.9% of you won't achieve shit. Why not live in reality and fight to make your rights and conditions as best as they can be.
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>>79684660
Most of those people aren't inherently stupid. I don't see myself as any more intelligent, I was just better educated.

The problem is most of them grow up with parents that did the same shit, only back then there were plenty of hours and labor to go around.

Now there isn't, but you have a whole generation of sons who want to be their dad. Only thing is, their dad made a living in a way they can't anymore.

Most of these people were the ones growing up who said "I don't want to learn anything I just want to work." That's a really common thing in the Deep South, the problem is there is no "just work" to go around anymore and many of the older people (40-50) can't understand why they've lost so many opportunities for work.
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>>79681568

Frank did nothing wrong.
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>>79684673
>don't even try to rise above your role!
spoken like a socialist.
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>>79684629
You know that counts hollywood as exports, right?
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>>79684819
>sons who want to be their dad

I don't know, any son that doesn't quickly realize their dad is a moron probably simply isn't smart enough to do anything other than the moronic bullshit their dad did.
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>>79683413
Are you either A) unemployed or B) working a dead-end, menial labor job?
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>>79684532
Airplanes, cars, heavy equipment, high technology, grains, the list goes on and on and on
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>>79685083
A father is God in the eyes of his child anon.
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>>79684922
If you weren't born rich, you aren't going to be. Stop trying to play the lottery with your life. Stop thinking you aren't a slave because you can play the lottery with your life.

Social mobility in the current capitalist climate is a lie. Every avenue to fortune has been closed off by the same people who took that avenue in the first place. Along with a number of avenues that no one took.
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>>79685178
And if they don't figure out that god either isn't real or doesn't care what humanity does... like I said, they ain't going to be good for much else.
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>>79685083

sorry you come from trash anon
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>>79685181
That entirely depends on your definition of rich. What do you consider rich? A million on the bank? Ten million? Dozens of millions spread out over multiple bank accounts and in real estate?
Because having a million in your savings is relatively achievable. With the right kind of work (surgeon, lawyer, specialised craftsmanship like underwater welding or pretty much every high responsibility job) or investments you can make quite a bit of bank. Or just think about all the talented musicians who are discovered, score a #1 hit and earn millions. There is definitely social mobility, but it's not easy. If you have the brains, discipline, and motivation, you can definitely become rich.
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>>79685050
>You know that counts hollywood as exports, right?
'no'
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>>79682353
>America is the world's second-largest manufacturer.

That doesn't mean America's the world's second largest manufacturing employer.

Far from it, due to automation.
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>>79684578
>I work in the public sector
>Now we just put our hand in the next guys pocket

Its like pottery
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