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>>79585694
Yeah, I don't think so.

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>>79585694
If Benny pushed Ten down on the bed, he'd just start crying about how she's not Rose. That's not the Doctor.

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The Series 10 costumes are shown today in Liverpool at the BBC Worldwide Showcase.

The Cybermen are confirmed to return.

>>79586146
Did they literally just spoil the Time Lords returning?

Also
>no Weeping Angel

Fuck off Moffat.

>>79585694
Dr who?More like Dr inbred brit lmao

>>79586191
>Did they literally just spoil the Time Lords returning?
Last season, we learned that the Gallifrey is just hanging out in normal space, and the Doctor tossed Rassilon off the planet to go fuck shit up somewhere else instead. Gosh, I wonder if the Time Lords will be back this season? I hope there are no spoilers.

In other news, the Doctor will have a companion, and the TARDIS will travel in time.

>>79586241
Ha! Good one old chap!

>>79586244
And the Doctor literally left Gallifrey without bringing it back to the actual universe, so they're still stuck wherever they were and there was no indication they would return. Cunt.

>>79586146
Are there anymore pictures from the showcase?

>>79586241
>More like Dr inbred brit
Um… how can you tell an inbred Brit from any other Brit?

It's not just that they've all been stuck on an island for millennia with nobody but their cousins to fuck. Send a German family to England and within a couple generations, you get Prince Charles.

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>>79586244
>the Gallifrey

>>79586317
Well, there are at least 8 spare ones, if Big Finish is to be believed.

>>79586317
OK, fine. I'm drunk. In the morning, I'll be sober, but you'll still be remembering that I misquoted Winston Churchill.

And whoever brought up the nine Gallifreys, until Romana and Leela run into Clara and Ashildr, kick their asses, and take back their stolen TARDIS, they don't deserve to be canon.

Time to say goodbye, guys.

https://youtu.be/jRkqlpZeGq8

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Aren't the Ice Warriors just the greatest?

>>79586432
They do have a sort of a Bank Holiday Monday feel, the kind of Jules Verne, Edgar Rice, Burroughs story of derring-do, which I've always loved.

>>79586481
>Edgar Rice, Burroughs
PS, this comma is in 90% of the articles quoting Gatiss, not just the one I copy-pasted it from. Seriously, do journalists not have copy-editors anymore?

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>>79586481
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

>>79586512
People think Edgar Rice is different from someone else named Burroughs.

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>>79586515

>>79586288
They're in the actual universe dipshit, they're just stuck at the end of it.

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I wonder if he was hurt by the negative feedback from Sleep No More. I know Reece Shearsmith was.

>>79586530
>People think Edgar Rice is different from someone else named Burroughs.
I suppose it would be kinda cool if Gatiss were talking about From the Earth to the Moon, John Carter of Mars, and Naked Lunch. I'm not sure all the bits about heroin, hanged men getting erections, and the anal glands of young Moroccan boys would be appropriate for family television, but let Gatiss try and see if it works.

>>79586146
>Classic cyberman head

HOLY SHIT GET HYPED

GENESIS OF THE CYBERMEN HAPPENING!!! CONFIRMED!!!

>>79586553
I wonder if the shit Daleks ate him up too

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>>79586584

>>79586560
Fuck off cats.

>>79586620
Spare Parts isn't canon

>>79586562
>I know Reece Shearsmith was.
You'd think by now Reece would have learned not to let Mark write for him except as Papa Lazarou.

Although, come to think of it, that episode would have been a lot better with Papa Lazarou in it.

>>79586607
He died. Shot dead by Missy, why do people keep saying he survived and will return? He was killed.

>>79586633
>Spare Parts isn't canon
Everything Marc Platt writes is canon. That's why Missy called the Doctor "Snail" and Simm kept making jokes about the Other.

>>79586580
It'll just be a Jules Verne story of people dugging into Mars and finding Ice Warriors colonies and a whole world living underneath. It's Gatiss m8.

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>>79586031
The last time that someone got close to Benny he got mindraped and then killed by his own son.

Braxiatel is pretty yandere for Benny anon, I don't think a fling with the Doctor would last.

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>>79586644

>>79586710
>It'll just be a Jules Verne story of people dugging into Mars and finding Ice Warriors colonies and a whole world living underneath. It's Gatiss m8.
That's not very Edgar Rice Burroughs, unless the Doctor finds a half-naked red Martian Princess along the way and impresses her family by being able to jump kinda high.

>>79586771
What happened? Did batmanmarch say he was a shit actor?

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>>79585694
What's your least favourite aspects of Nuwho?

In no particular order
>Moffat's obsession with 'exploring' the character of The Doctor as as whole

The whole point is that every regeneration of The Doctor/any Timelord has the same memories and similar motives but has a wildly different personality. It's fucking stupid to see Moffat's writing retconning the personalities of older Doctors to fit his Tumblr pandering fetish.

>'Morality Tests'
I fucking hate when the Doctor is presented with two solutions: killing an old enemy to save the universe from suffering or not having a death on his hands and risking the wellbeing of all life.

On the one hand, it's dumb as fuck because some Doctors (including 12) have been known to kill individual enemies if they really have to, so why that wouldn't extend to Davros of all people is beyond me.

In addition, you fucking KNOW that every single fucking time they pull this shit, some inspirational music will fire up toward the end of the episode and the Doctor will pull a third option out of nowhere and resolve the plot without having to make a difficult moral decision.

>Focus on companions
This extends to the old series at points too, but it irks me how most of the interesting conversations and exploration is given to the companion over the Doctor, who in more recent series basically just serves to work the TARDIS and follow the orders of The Girl Of The Series.

Can't we just have a series where The Doctor goes solo?

>Half-baked plot arcs
Either go for a full on sequential plot a-la Fargo etc every series or have a series of distinct episodes. The attempt to work an arc into events that happen at random parts of history in episodes that wildly vary thematically is dumb as fuck, especially when it all resolves with a Russel T Davies explosionfest.

>>79586146
I WANT THE CLOTH FACE MONDAS CYBERMAN NOT THESE FUCKS! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

>>79586799
Family drama shit with River Song and Amy Pond, spontaneous pregnancy and people who are suddenly revealed to have stalked the Doctor through his entire life.

This is my only dislike.

>>79586707
>That's why Missy called the Doctor "Snail"
GIVE ME A FUCKING SOURCE YOU FUCK

>>79586784
No, another bloke was genuinely saying his acting was good. Not the first time he's had a pop at someone on Twitter

>>79586835
But you don't need a source for Simm constantly making jokes about the Other?

>>79586891
Are you rusing me? I don't remember any of this.

>>79586146
What's that thing between the Ghost and the submarine suit?

>>79586896
>Are you rusing me? I don't remember any of this.
Surely you at least remember the part in Last of the Time Lords where Ten and Simm reminisce about how even though they were loomed by houses with an ancient rivalry they still became fast friends, right?

>>79586828
Hell yea!

>>79586799
Show runners with big egos

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>>79586934
DELETE THIS

>>79586942
>Show runners with big egos
Fucking Innes Lloyd.

>>79586891
>Other
What is this?

>>79586799
>What's your least favourite aspects of Nuwho?

The erasure of Gareth Roberts. I shall never forgive Steven Moffat for doing this, yet keeping Mark Gatiss.

Never.

Not in all the years in time and space.

>>79586922
No idea, but what is that green egg looking shape between time lord and emoji robot?

>>79586944
>E

>"Don't be ridiculous Bill, we're never safe. Not in here, not in the TARDIS, not in this universe or the next."

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>>79586956
>‘What are you talking about?’ Fitz protested. ‘You didn’t say he was one of your five statues earlier.
>‘What do you mean, five?’ She sounded vaguely amused. “There’s only ever been four, one for each of the colleges who built the Panopticon.’
>‘Stop mucking around,’ Fitz insisted. ‘It had five walls and as many statues, we talked about it!
>‘Four, Fitz.’ Romana’s tone suggested this was the end of an idiotic conversation, but Fitz wasn’t having it. Another soft, posh Time Lady voice was speaking to him too, from a little further back.
>‘She said there were six colleges, six statues!’
>‘This is getting tiring, Fitz. The statues are just the same as they’ve always been. The Doctor, the Other …’
>‘No!’ Fitz was almost laughing in his frustration. ‘Can’t you see it? It’s all changed! This place is square!’
>‘Naturally.’ She stepped off midair and on to a walkway of blue copper, her footsteps echoing lazily around the empty hall.
>‘No!’ He followed her on to the walkway and chased after her. The air was colder up so high, and Fitz’s arms were already puckered with gooseflesh. ‘You just can’t see it, can you? Your history’s being torn away and rewritten and you really can’t see it! Your precious Panopticon had five walls earlier. Now it’s got four. What if tomorrow you find it’s got three, and you start telling me that three is the basis of all Time Lord society, huh? You’re not going to worry about this until there are only two sides and it closes on you with an almighty bang, like a book slamming shut on you …’ He dapped his hands together for effect and it sounded like a pistol crack. ”The End!’
The Other is the source of all of Gallifrey's geometry problems.

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Why did RTD get rid of the seal of rassilon?

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>>79587003
The arm of one of those.

>>79587003
It's got antenna so it looks like the Mire from S9

>>79587073
He didn't, he just made a new one

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59th FOR APPRECIATING APEIRON'S SPIKY COMBAT BOOTS

>>79586942
The fucking "Whole New Era" shit that came about when RTD gave Doctor Who over to Moffat was-- in retrospect-- cringy as fuck, given that literally every other show in history swap showrunners without there being any pomp or circumstance.

>>79587014
DELET THIS

>>79587070
I legit thought this was about Weeping Angels at first.

>>79587099
Glad they got rid of that 'new one'

>>79586956
>What is this?
Google Lungbarrow, and Cartmel Master Plan.

Since the Other was erased from history by Rassilon, we know nothing about him, except that he was erased from history.

Oh, and he's probably also reincarnated as the Doctor, and he's also probably Leela's son who's named after the Doctor, and when Lady Peinforte said the Doctor was More Than Just Another Time Lord she meant he was the Other because witchcraft can defeat Rassilon, and he probably either failed to get Rassilon and Omega to stop fighting or caused them to start fighting in the first place, and the biggest holiday of the Gallifreyan year is called Otherstide, but otherwise, nobody knows anything about him.

>>79587101
I hate this, because it set the precedence that every new show runner should have a complete fresh start

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>>79586799
Moffat thinking he's being clever is easily the most grating thing because NuWho. RTD's plots were pretty retarded, but he was aware he was writing for a Saturday Night Family audience, so went for campy, dramatic, big dumb fun.

Moffatt on the other hand seems to think he's God's gift to Sci Fi and fills his writing with obnoxious bullshit.

>Who is The Hybrid?
>It's ME!
>LOL I bet you thought I was talking about that shit TV Movie, but I actually meant the character Me I made a few episodes ago!

>How do we get my boyfriend back?
>Go to hell.
>What?
>Go to hell. We'll literally go to hell and get him back!
>LOL I bet you thought the Doctor was mad at Clara but instead he was just using wordplay to made an incredibly tactless statement that suggests that his friend's boyfriend went to Hell :)

And let's not forget the constant fucking barrage of attempts to make characters say "Doctor who?" that riddle his scripts, or the arrogant assumption that he can use his characters to retcon the work of the far more talented writers who actually made the show popular.

Fuck you Moff.

>>79587135
>I legit thought this was about Weeping Angels at first.
Most stories would not be improved by adding spurious Weeping Angels, but The Ancestor Cell, yeah, that would have been a lot cooler.

In fact, a couple Slitheen couldn't have hurt that story either, and maybe an Abzorbaloff.

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I just noticed Rassilon's seal looks pretty damn Celtic.

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>>79587135
It's a House Faction Paradox represent episode anon.

>>79587225
>In fact, a couple Slitheen couldn't have hurt that story either, and maybe an Abzorbaloff.
DELET THIS

>>79587254
>DELET THIS
Sorry, Mr. Cole, but you know as well as I that book really isn't your best work.

>>79587225
>In fact, a couple Slitheen couldn't have hurt that story either
Excuse me, would you mind not farting while I'm resurrecting Grayjan the Old for no actual story payoff?

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>>79587280
I fucking loved it. It did read like an FP parody at points with teenaged Time Lords and muh rituals and bone spiders but I would 10/10 vote for Greyjan the Sane.

>>79586799
>Teasing the latest iteration of The Doctor as being "darker than anything before" when in reality they're just some nice guy like every other Doctor

The War Doctor and Twelve were betrayed by shit writing.

>>79587220
The hell comment was literally GOAT. The double entendre wasn't just only to fool us but also Clara. He did mean it, he basically told Clara to go fuck herself then he said "nah I meant we're going to actual hell". He literally explains it the next minute.

>>79587326
>I fucking loved it
Seriously? You're literally the first person I've ever heard who said anything remotely that positive. A few bits, sure (and the first Grayjan scene was one of them, despite what the other anon said, even if it didn't go anywhere that interesting), but as a whole, it was a huge mess of crap.

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Reminding you every thread

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>>79587444

>tfw this will never happen

>>79587680
/who/ wil errupt when it's not her

>>79587399
But the double entendre is shit writing because it was literally only put into the script as a line to make the audience think The Doctor was mad. There's no in-character reason at all for the Doctor to break his plan to Clara in the way that he did.

For a start, The Doctor did it in such a way that Clara-- a person who has been driven to sheer desperation at the loss of her boyfriend-- would think for almost a minute that he's basically telling her to fuck off.

Second, the Doctor's choice of words come across as mean spirited because he's basically telling Clara that the man she loved is being punished in eternity for his sins rather than going to heaven, which isn't a great thing to say to someone in her mental state.

Third, other than for plot reasons, there is literally no reason at all that the Doctor would even broach the subject of an existent afterlife where Danny can be rescued from to Clara because-- for one-- there has been literally zero evidence or attempt to do such a thing in the previous fifty years of the Show's history, and two-- Twelve doesn't really seem like the kind of person to offer false hope given his interactions with characters throughout season 8.

It was literally just blind luck that Missy had been running a scheme to trap departing consciousness to put into Cybermen that what he was doing actually worked.

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>>79585694
>Tenth Doctor is best Doctor edition

>>79587421
I liked Greyjan, the bit where you know what turned out to be the TARDIS, the Fitz reveal, Gallifrey's geometry problems, the poor TL who burned through all 13 regenerations in one go - brutal and Compassion kidnapping that guy and her being a TARDIS.

I didn't like Obstructive Bureaucrat Romana III's out of character impersonal/blunt manner, teenage Time Lord cultists and the Spider wild goose chase.

>>79587391
At least War has some stories in Seasons of War where you could really see him earn the whole "one that broke the promise" label.

>>79587220
God, yes. That kind of obnoxious dialogue is the most irritating thing about Moffat's writing.

>>79587737
>there has been literally zero evidence or attempt to do such a thing in the previous fifty years of the Show's history

>The ghosts of N-Space being actually ghosts from an actual afterlife.
>Grace being resurrected by the Eye of Harmony and then telling the Doctor that the afterlife is nothing to be afraid of.
>The Papal Mainframe offering to send the Sontarans to the appropriate afterlife.

If you count Torchwood:
>A ghost telling Gwen he's happy to be able to move on to the afterlife, and soon after floating up into a glowing white light in the sky that's exactly like what's described in N-Space.
>Owen and Suzie returning from death and saying the afterlife is real, but it's nothing but darkness and you're constantly stalked by Death.
>Owen being resurrected again and talking about the afterlife again, more positively this time.

If you count novels, Big Finish, etc.:
>Davros being sent back from the afterlife.
>An amusement park attraction that lets you visit the actual, factual afterlife for 30 minutes.
>Katarina's story in the Greek afterlife.
>Gwen sending a message to Owen and Tosh in the afterlife.

I'm pretty sure there's more that I'm not remembering and/or thought I remembered but couldn't find in a search.

>>79587861
Always felt that Seasons was worth it for the (obviously fanservicey) War chatting with Narvin but the prose and plot was spotty in places and the outcomes not as impactful as it could have been.

War's run was tempered significantly by weak writing both on television and in the audios (the Rejoice plotline amounted to nothing, Ollistra was well not much of a character. All of Big Finish's OTHER Time Lord characters like Councillor Allora, Straxus, Vansell, Sentris, you name it, had imbued within them a kind of life whereas Ollistra seemed to exist because she existed, and as a substitute for Romana so the listeners wouldn't feel that Romana's Gallifrey was shitting on the Doctor. Ollistra doesn't feel like a person. And War just seems to do things that don't especially distinguish him from the other incarnations really and Eight definitely feels darker and more pragmatic than War at times which is counterintuitive. )

>>79587855
>I liked Greyjan … TARDIS … Fitz reveal … geometry … poor TL
Yes, those are the good bits. Well, at least they start off good; Greyjan and Father Kreiner both get disappointing.

>Compassion kidnapping that guy
That could have been cool, but Nivek had no character whatsoever, and I never figured out why Compassion wanted to take him in the first place.

>and her being a TARDIS.
But that's from Shadows of Avalon (and set up since Interference), not Ancestor Cell. And it's not even one of the good parts of Shadows. I was really looking forward to the inside of Compassion's soul, and it turns out it's Hollywood-crazy neon bullshit, not actual-crazy.

>Obstructive Bureaucrat Romana III
Her later out-of-power scenes with Fitz partly redeemed that by making it clear that she'd been doing what she thought was necessary for the job, but yeah, not enough.

>teenage Time Lord cultists … Spider
Ugh, yeah.

But what about Faction Paradox being an invading army who might as well have been Sontarans? The Enemy being some old cells? The stupid Klein bottle thing? Grandfather Paradox? The Doctor getting amnesia again, after we've just gotten over the second time?

I'll give it credit for the cool bits. And for setting up for the Richards era, which started off well and then got even better after a stumble. But still, the main story is a mess of crap.

>>79587737
The Afterlife was a huge feature of the Wilderness Years EU that Moffat was part of. The Doctor meets Death a few times, Gallifrey's Celestial Intervention Agency sacrifice their physical bodies to become beings of energy inhabiting their dimension Mictlan (Hell), The City of the Saved which seems to be where Moffat quite literally pinched the idea fron the EU - well there's a lot of background influence to consider on Moffat's writing of the afterlife.

Not to mention that all the EU plot points are basically extrapolations of the Matrix. Time Lords don't lose people like humans do, the Matrix contains the minds of every Time Lord so death is simply a thing that didn't happen. In part, Missy recreated that for her own agenda.

The other points make perfect sense.

>>79588311
>the Wilderness Years EU that Moffat was part of
To be fair, he only wrote a single Decalog short story the entire time.

But to be unfair (which is fair), he spent a lot of time at the Tavern with a group of fans that included a third of the Virgin writers, and on RADW with two thirds of the Virgin writers, so… yeah, he knew what they were writing, and argued about the details of the books as often as he pretended he wasn't reading them.

>>79588263
>tfw when Compassion wanted someone to bully.
Yeah the choice was as random as hell.
>I was really looking forward to the inside of Compassion's soul, and it turns out it's Hollywood-crazy neon bullshit, not actual-crazy.
Me too. Although Marie (the other humanoid TARDIS) was pretty regular so I didn't expect anything too creative. I guess later on the City of the Saved ramps it up in the creativity department. I don't remember anything up with Antipathy and Lolita later in the EU - those two are the other candidates for pure craziness although we don't get much insight.

>But what about Faction Paradox being an invading army who might as well have been Sontarans? The Enemy being some old cells? The stupid Klein bottle thing? Grandfather Paradox? The Doctor getting amnesia again, after we've just gotten over the second time?
Pure shit tier. I loved Foreman's Kleins Bottle concept from earlier on so I'm willing to overlook the bottle.

>>79588263
>I was really looking forward to the inside of Compassion's soul
Cornell intentionally decided not to make it too dark, because he thought it would take away from the horrific implications of Romana coming after her.

Which just shows that he completely misunderstood the Doom Patrol plotline inside Crazy Jane's head that he'd raved about.

>>79588548
The entire Ancestor Cell was me wondering what the fuck was up with Romana III.

Juliet Landau could have definitely pulled off an Ancestor Cell Romana as a cynical Trey though.

But after the Randomiser I was definitely expecting something fucked up with Compassion's soul.

>>79588519
>Although Marie (the other humanoid TARDIS) was pretty regular so I didn't expect anything too creative.
Well, yeah, but Marie wasn't a main character, she was a bad pun (a TARDIS stuck in the shape of a 1960s London policewoman) turned into a minor side story.

Miles deserves a lot of the blame for the other books, for not actually telling anyone what they were supposed to do with Compassion, so he could yell at them for doing it wrong when they did, but Shadows does a great job with her as a human and then completely falls apart with her as a TARDIS.

>I guess later on the City of the Saved ramps it up in the creativity department.
Yeah; in fact, it might have been better to just do a series on the City and Compassion instead of Faction Paradox and the War. Not that there isn't some other good stuff in FP, but that book and the first short story collection are the best things in it.

>>79588548
>Cornell intentionally decided not to make it too dark, because he thought it would take away from the horrific implications of Romana coming after her.
I hadn't heard that. Maybe I could understand that as an explanation, except for the fact that he also downplayed the rapey implications of what Romana was after, which made it kind of pointless.

The next two books (I think; I can't remember for sure what happened when anymore) made up for that a bit, especially with the randomizer thing, but then it just stopped moving forward again and TAC just ignored it.

>Which just shows that he completely misunderstood the Doom Patrol plotline inside Crazy Jane's head that he'd raved about.
I don't remember anything about those issues except that her soul was organized like the London Underground and her original personality vanished and left behind something so horrible the artist can't depict it.

>frozen margarita hangover
>big lump of lasagne
>fuzzy slippers on
>comfy Teninch on W
>rain

I truly am the king of kings

>>79586146
am I blind? where's the cybermen?

>>79589162

olde-timey Cyberman head there on the left

>>79587391
>muh dark edgy rambo doctor!!!

t.underage

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hows he gonna regenerate?

Why is the BBC so cheap when it comes to the animated recreations of the lost episodes.

I mean, c'mon. It deserves a bit more dignity than wooden moving Flash puppets whose walk cycles are literally moving the legs like a pair of scissors and bouncing them up and down when the legs aren't in frame.

Fucking get some koreans to animate that shit or something. Jesus.

Man, I miss Jack. He's just fun

>>79589281
He's going to slit his wrists whilst changing his guitar strings.

>>79589211
oh. very nice.
i'm hype now.

reminder capaldi said this awhile back when asked if cybermen were in s10.

>There may be. They may be different from that. They may not be marching Cybermen. They may be a different kind of Cyberman

>they may not be marching cybermen

GET HYPE

>>79589310
Same. If I were made show runner then I'd bring him back, but alas...

>>79589296
Only diehard fans care about missing episodes.
Unless the public shows more interest they're always going to be cheap looking.

>>79589323
Either Genesis of the Cybermen or Asylum of the Cybermen

WHAT'S UP FAGS

>>79589323
>>79586584

I was always of the stance that the Cybermen we see in the new series aren't Mondasian Cybermen, but Pete's World Cybermen who just fucked off somewhere in the Universe after breaching it during the whole Torchwood Tower incident.

Then they just built themselves up over the centuries and kept upgrading themselves, resulting in the fancy-schmancy ones we see during the whole thing with Mr. Clever.

Meanwhile the actual true Mondasian Cybermen have been slumbering in their tombs across the galaxy. If they're bringing them back, I seriously hope they'll have a confrontation between the two.

>>79586146
>more time lords confirmed
Series 10 is gonna be GOAT.

>>79589388
I would love this. If it were revealed the 'Cybermen' we've seen aren't really the cybermen at all. Give them a creepy body-horror redesign and call the story 'Return of the Cybermen'

>>79589224
The fact that you think dark means edgy Rambo shows that you're the underage one.

>>79589224
If you equate a darker/more mature character with edginess and rambo, you either have a really shitty frame of reference or are underage yourself.

I'd just like to see a character who approaches threats and affords them the sobriety and respect they deserve and deal with them accordingly and has long, fleshed out conversations with his colleagues for once rather than zaning around the scene and resolving everything in the last five minutes.

>>79589388
They need to bring back the cybercontroller. The proper one with the exposed brain, not the shitty Mr Clever from Nightmare in Silver. Also we haven't seen a cyberleader for a while

>>79589577
>>79589549
>samefagging

literally underage

>>79585694
>There will never be a Doctor Who season where the Doctor's companion the next regeneration of himself

>>79589632
There will be, there will be...

>>79589490
>Pete's World Cybermen seek to replace flesh with technology
>Mondasian Cybermen seek to enhance flesh with technology

Could lead to some interesting quips.

>"You call yourselves Cybermen? You are more machine than man! You are nothing more than brains in jars."
>"Methodology is irrelevant. The end achievement is the same."
>"No. You have destroyed and suppressed that which is the flesh's greatest asset. You have let logic and data rule over you with an iron grip. You have made yourselves slaves to technology, while we...have become its master."

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>>79589618
>b-b-b-but muh proxy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsqI1AFc6cI

3:15

>Calls for Doctor Who to be taken off the air for 2 years and brought back with Gareth Roberts at the helm

Which one of you is this?

>>79590062
To be fair, Gareth does understand the show and what it's about. The question is, would 'proper' Doctor Who work with a modern audience? I think not

>>79587220
>Davros, your sewers are revolting.
Took me way too long to realise he wasn't just criticising them

>>79589388
>If they're bringing them back, I seriously hope they'll have a confrontation between the two.
No, this idea will never be anything but fanwank. I can think of few things less interesting than watching two factions of Cybermen have a go at each other, I mean at least Daleks have some personality.
If you're going to reintroduce classic style Cybermen, just fucking do it and don't waste time having a fap about them beating up the new ones (or spending any more than 2 lines' exposition on why the change happened).

>>79588263
Ancestor Cell really must have had a nightmare brief behind it. I can understand that Justin Richards wanted to get rid of Compassion, who was a main character at the time, and the Time Lords, who were just introduced as a new recurring force, but was it really necessary to resolve ALL the sequel hooks set up previously? The bottle universe, Father Kreiner, the third Doctor's demise, the Faction-virus.. hell, even Faction Paradox and the Grandfather. These all could have been ignored and at least be given the option of being picked up later by other books. But since the book is forced to do everything at once it suffers from it.
It also strikes me as a bit unfair that Ancestor Cell focuses entirely on Interference. I don't see Iris Wildthyme showing up and explaining the Obverse, or Daniel Joyce explaining who exactly he is, or Lady Larna appearing and explaining what the hell was up in The Infinity Doctors. Why are these plot threads allowed to be left dangling but not those of Interference?

https://twitter.com/ReetuKabra/status/833336988598157312

Better pic of the Series 10 props. Who's is that grey costume next to 12's black velvet?

13th Doctor? :o

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your next doctor

>>79591486
Mamma Mia!

>>79591427
Doesn't he kind of wear an outfit like that in the next time trailer?

>>79591427
Whose is the long green coat?

>>79591820
Bill's costume in episode 3 i think

And the shepherd's boy says...

>>79591978
...That's Gareth!

So will Moffat do a real Gallifrey civil war this time?

MISTER ROBERTS
BRING ME A MEME
MAKE IT THE FUNNIEST THAT I'VE EVER SEEN

>tfw you're a fat
>tfw people enjoy what you do but they don't enjoy you
>tfw your last name is actually Roberts

I don't wanna end up like Gareth, shunned but brilliant. I'm not ready for that life.

>>79592507
Well I'm in the same situation. Except I'm not fat. And I'm not named Roberts.

Fuck our shit up.

>>79592507
Do you ever get annoyed that you could probably write better scripts than Mark Gatiss, yet Gatiss gets to do new ones every year, and is probably a millionaire?

>>79592655
Fuck, I never thought of that... brb krillitaning myself

>>79592655
I really hate Gatiss and will be happy when he and Moffat are far away from my favorite show

>>79592952
I'll try take no offence.

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>>79591319
IIRC they basically got scared of how weird Miles' ideas were getting (he wanted to do a book called The War where multiple timelines overlapped and the Joanna Lumley Doctor turned up but no one could tell if she was "real" or not, and another cycle of six interconnected books) and just erased everything he made from continuity to start from scratch with The Burning (while nicking the whole idea of a bone artefact over wartime Gallifrey from him at the same time). Magrs hadn't really pissed anyone off by comparison, so he got left alone.

>>79593044
When's Old Roberts coming back? We love his scripts!

>>79593103
Never. We discovered he's a racist.

>>79593044
I'd prefer it if you derring-did

>>79591486
The name's Who. Dr. Who.

>>79593049
If only Miles was less abrasive, maybe they'd have liked him enough to let him do this stuff.

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>>79591427
>those pants
COMFY PAJAMA PANTS CONFIRMED

>>79593560
Wait a minute, why's there a fez?

Official Capaldi Rankings

>Series 10>Series 9>Series 8

>>79593633
No idea. There's a mire in the back so maybe its not all S10 props?

>>79593633
BECAUSE FEZZES ARE COOL

What did you think of Under the Lake / Before the Flood?

>>79593725
It was good, but not great. The villain at the end ruined it a bit since he was pretty underdeveloped and had weak motivations. 7/10

>>79593725
Nice to rewatch if you ever just wanna see some 12 and Clara, but it isn't brilliant, it isn't revolutionary, the villain was boring, and it's just cookie-cutter base under siege. And base under siege can be very good. But this story wasn't. It won't be remembered. Series 9, save the last three episodes, should be voluntarily forgotten.

>>79593725
Basicly Cold War but longer, spookier, and with a worse ending

>>79593939
>worse ending
Put your trip back on Mark.

>>79593725
First part was good. Reminded me of Impossible Planet/Satan Pit.

Part 2 was crap. Can't even remember what the villain's plan was. Also, telling the audience to "google it" in reference to a central plot point is a bit of a shitty move

>>79593956
>actually caring about tripfags or agknowleging them

Cold War didn't have a great ending but atleast it wasn't a two parter

>>79593970
I think I hate the Before the Flood cold open.

Anybody else here really love The Idiot's Lantern?

There's literally nothing wrong with Girl Who Died. It was a great episode.
Prove me wrong.

>>79593970
Considering some fans still don't understand what a bootstrap paradox is i'd say it was fair.

I saved you, Nardole. And I saved this stupid rock again, too.

Ohh.

But I couldn't save myself.

(Autistic screeching)

And you know what that makes me?

Errmm...A hero?

A good man.

Ooohhh.

And good men can become good women.
*looks into camera, smiles, regenerates*

>>79593691
Aw fuck does that mean the Cyberman head is just the one from Death in Heaven?

>>79594126
I didnt find it "very bad" back in a time.

>>79594211
Maybe. Capaldi did hint at them appearing though. So who knows.

>>79594142
Too rushed
Ending is nonsense

Otherwise its okay.

>>79594266
What was rushed about it? Also the ending was the best part when they pranked the shit out of the Vikings.

>>79594177
The first ontological/bootstrap paradox was Bad Wolf wasn't it? And Moffat's been doing them ad nauseum ever since so you'd have to be literally retarded not to understand it by now.

>>79594314
>pranked the shit out of the Vikings.
Meant to write Odin not vikings.

>>79593970
I love Before the Flood. Well, the first 10 minutes anyway. I liked 12 going back to that barren '80s town and meeting the Tivoli. I pretended that those two crew members were his companions instead of Clara.

>>79594211
That one was heavily damaged around the right eye and at the bottom of the neck. Significantly so. The two props don't look alike, but I still wouldn't take these photos as confirmation of anything.

>>79594321
Well they exist. I saw someone on /who/ who thought there were bootstrap paradoxes in Heaven Sent.

>Doctor Strange ripped off Heaven Sent

When is Moffat getting his residuals?

>>79594321
>>79594409
https://youtu.be/u4SEDzynMiQ

He tells you what it is, too.

Disregarding the rest of the episode, I always enjoy this little bit on its own.

chronological anon here.

listening to Persuasion, almost done with 7.

couldn't make it through the VNAs, mast it just past Original Sin.

looking forward to McGann.

SO ONCE AGAIN.
WHY DID PEOPLE HATE LOVE AND MONSTERS?
I AM SO TRIGGERED BY THIS
THIS EPISODES TRIED SOMETHING NEW
IT WAS COMFY
CHARACTERS WERE WELL-DEVELOPED
WHY DID YOU BUNCH OF MORONIC RETARDS HATE THIS EPISODE

>>79595048
the blowjob joke at the end.

and shitty monster.

>>79595123
AND THAT'S ALL? THAT'S DAMN ALL?

>>79594321
>The first ontological/bootstrap paradox was Bad Wolf wasn't it?
Nope, pretty sure the first was Mawdryn Undead.

>>79595048
I honestly don't know how Love and Monsters gets so much hate when Fear Her immediately follows it

Ben Elton is an underrated actor and Peter Kay was the only person who could pull off something as dumb as the Abzorbaloff

>>79595417
Ben Elton is a 57 year old author...

>>79595486
and he's worse than Osama bin Laden

>>79595486
My bad. Just been watching some Blackadder and the character's name was Elton. Marc Warren is an underrated actor and Fear Her was terrible low-budget filler.

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>>79593633
Maybe it's the one in the Husbands of River Song
Or maybe...
Matt Smith returns confirmed

>>79595528
Clara Osama Oswald

Is that who blew up the TARDIS?

>>79595048
I just don't like Doctor lite episodes

>>79595048
Did Elton seriously forget the circumstances under which his mother died?

>>79593560
I don't think that's The Doctor's outfit

>>79595048
It's just unpleasant to watch. Tonally it's all over the place. The constant, sudden shifts into death and violence are jarring and not in a good way.
It's just poorly made, poorly written, and in the end, pointless.

>>79595674
I knew Ben Elton was a bastard.

>>79595048
Because Elo's music is shit and was in the episode therefore the episode became automatically shit.

>>79595948
Give me your address
I will beat the shit out of you
You fucking cunt

>>79595974
Ooooooh he's reeeeeing now. Good.

>>79595048
Shit monster.
Shit characters, boring and uninteresting.
Shit characterisation for Bonnie Tyler or whatever Rose's mom's name was.
Shit plot making the Doctor look like fire and burning everyone getting close who have to pay a price for getting close but Rose literally never pays this price and gets her very own toy boy Doctor.

Is Davros just bitter that he can't walk, so he has to kill all bipeds?

>>79596130
Whenever I feel sad about the world, all I have to do is remember Davros just had his eyes shut all them years and I piss myself laughing.

I miss old Big Ears.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bDGH3dKo90

Reminder the Doctor pulled Davros, an actual handicapped man, out of his chair and threw him on the ground like an old sock.

>>79596098
You are incorrect in every single statement.

We think... 4 and a half billion years.

>never watched Love & Monsters

should I watch it just to understand?

>>79596419
Yeah, form your own opinion first.

>>79596419
Yes, it isn't even that bad. It's incredibly comfy and the monster is actually pretty disturbing

Four and a half billion years...

>>79594474
wait... how? I can barely remember a single thing about Doctor Strange

>>79596274
>One pushes him over the side with his cane
>Two and Jamie each hold him under an armpit and lift him. One of them almost drops him and they bicker about it
>Three straight up grabs his arm and flips him out
>Four holds the rim and shakes the chair so much he topples out
>Five watches as Adric and Nyssa do it
>Six fishes him out with his umbrella
>Seven blows up Skaro again
>Eight just casually pushes him out as he's getting in
>War makes him get out himself at gunpoint
>Nine tips the chair over and "accidentally" runs over him as he rides out
>Ten uses the Sonic and somehow ejects him three feet into the air
>Eleven tries to get in on top of him at first before finally pushing him out

>>79596589
"Dormammu, I've come to bargain."

Stay back.

>>79596602
Kek I would love to see this. You nailed them all desu.

>>79596608
oh yes I remember now! But then again, you could say Heaven Sent ripped off Groundhog Day ;)

I SAID

STAY

BACK !!!!!!

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>>79596602
>Seven blows up skaro again

>>79596803
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>>79596765
I don't even know what you're quoting it's so generic.

>>79596868
WE WUZZZZZZZ TIME LORDS N SHIEEET

>>79596853
https://youtu.be/p5eHJmQg-_M

>>79596803
how did he regenerate into someone already wearing makeup?

>>79596803
I'm still upset that Ken Bones' General was written out. He had so much potential. Sad!

>>79596953
Huh racist and sexist much?

>>79596953
Because Moffat is a fucking hack.

>>79596953
You mean the actress was in blackface? Moffat is disgusting.

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>>79597023
>actress

>>79596953
Sometimes they're born with tattoos.

The only time I've been a man, that last body

Who remembers that trailer that was attached to the end of The Lazarus Experiment back in 2007? It had clips from the rest of the season cos there was a break between that episode and the next one. I remember being so fucking hyped for the rest of the series.

>>79597058
It's a TA-TOOO. They're very boring.

DEAR LORD, HOW DO YOU COPE WITH ALL THAT EGO?

>>79597051
Wow, a Rareth!

>>79597058
True. Is 3 the only Doctor with a tattoo?

>>79597102
Those were the days when the show was exciting

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When did the Doctor have time to record these messages for Martha in Human Nature? Doesn't he decide to become human on a whim?

>>79597159
Moffat's idea of feminism is the same as 4chan's, i.e. man-hating.

>>79597205
Fuck off mark.

>>79597102
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spwrBPXj9zQ

I do.

>Doctor Who will return in 2 weeks

REEEEEEEEEE

https://twitter.com/OldRoberts953/status/726887362802888705

>>79597205
He recorded them after the events of the story.

>>79597215
But he's right then.

>>79597250
>this video is forbidden in your country
What did BBC mean by this

>>79597279
This is now canon.

>>79597250
Fuuuuck that takes me back. There seemed to be so much packed into this trailer, I couldn't understand how it would fit into the rest of the series.

I don't think I could get as excited for a trailer now, especially when the big line of your main Season 9 trailer is 'Oh same old same old'.

Season 10 has a lot of promise though, despite the trailer not being that great.

>>79597250
>The uploader has not made this video available in your country.
Fucking beeb.

>>79597205
Always wondered about that. I figure he had at least five minutes before changing to make a recording.

>>79597250
Smith and Jones
The Shakespeare Code (I like it)
Gridlock
42 (again I like it)
Human Nature
The Family of Blood
Blink
Utopia
The Sound of Drums

Series 3 is the best of NuWho so far.

>>79597343
>>79597326
>>79597338
Is there another mirror for this video? I want to watch it, but it's blocked in my country

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Series 3 had some kinorefic cinematography.

so good
not

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_-wIkyyEfQ

>>79597250
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGoNQLeaSwI
This was also pretty hype

>>79597440
Replace 'tube' in the URL with 'pak'. Should work.

>>79597500
HEADMASTER SIR GOOD EVENING SIR COME TO GIVE ME A CANING SIR WOULD YOU LIKE THAT SIR?

>>79597527
I remember watching that over and over on the old Doctor Who website. Afterwards I'd have a quick few rounds of 'The Last Dalek' I could never get past Level 2

guys the series 9 soundtrack is coming in march

>>79597584
gonna need a source

Dalek was set 7 years in the future
2012 was 5 years ago

>>79597520
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAqIoH5BLo0

>>79597584
No. I think they'll release it with Series 10 like they did Series 1 and 2 together, kind of bookending Murray Gold's tenure because he's apparently wanting out after this series.

>>79597540
Doesnt work for me

>>79597613
>tfw 2005 was 25 years ago

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>Eruditorum Press is shitposting general
>Vox Day's PR firm burned down the server
>Doctor Who is on indefinite hiatus
>Peter Capaldi to be replaced by another straight cis white man
>Phil Sandifer photographed exchanging money with Michael Grade
>James Murphy's on-podcast breakdown jeopardizing production
>Pex Lives studios have been empty for months
>BBC Books no longer accepting submissions
>Sandifer confirmed that Titan Comics "wasn't interested" in his pitch for a Susan Foreman comic
>Jane Campbell has been in the hospital for two months, no contact with the media
>Josh Marsfelder currently under investigation following Garfield overanalysis
>Kit Power cut from the guest post roster
>Mark Gatiss and Eliezer Yudkowsky have "exciting announcement" for November
>Sandifer and Jill Buratto currently undergoing "trial separation"
>Jack Graham 14-minute Marxist tirade recorded in a Tescos checkout line
>Rumors swirling about Josh Marsfelder's "transition"
>Steven Moffat retirement announcement imminent
>Kevin Burns silently suffering from cancer of the larynx
>Anna Wiggins "hasn't come out of the basement in months" according to family members
>"TARDIS Eruditorum was a mistake. It's nothing but trash," says Sandifer on a Christmas Shabcast
>Holly Boson plagiarism accusations made by Chameleon Circuit
>Gareth Roberts recently hired by BBC to "political adviser" position
>Shana Wolstein has "critical sexual health announcement" to make
>Urn containing John Hurt's ashes has gone missing
>Daniel Harper releases 15 minute video about women's rights
>Jack Graham signs non-compete with Labour Party, will not write for Eruditorum Press for 5 years
>Larry Miles admitted for three-day "psychiatric observation" after being detained outside Phil Sandifer's home with "a motley collection of bone imprements"
>Ex-wife tell-all in the works, "Phil Sandifer qlippothed and used me!"
>Peter Harness suffering from late-stage thorax cancer

It's over, Eruditorum Press, we're finished.

>>79597647
Try proxtube.com

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>>79597500
If we're just posting shots that we like, this is my wallpaper.

>>79597520
This kid had the budget for either Jack's coat, Ten's coat, or a proper tripod.
He chose poorly.

Series 3 Trailer 1 was also pretty hype.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTskOsK_b5Y

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Stop putting regeneration episodes on Christmas Day.

>>79597696
>Proxflow can not unblock this video because it is blocked in the US.

I hate BBC so much

Why does one pop a balloon?

Best trailers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hQyujVvRcY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTskOsK_b5Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pkgVNbg4Zo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYREDtQa5I8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KPqlscQ-LI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnPUF8an-XE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpbmMhNe6aA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vIsQ25Krq8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loGm3vT8EAQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mkq8pnvsnQg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bB8fh4QUy-A

and if we ignore the shitty final line
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0csVdLbDMO4

>>79597758
BECAUSE YOU'RE PRETTY

>>79597756
I suppose as a last resort you could attempt to download the video? I don't know if that'd work.

>Steven Moffat net worth: Steven Moffat is a Scottish television writer and producer who has a net worth of $30 million.

>Matt Smith Net Worth: $6 Million. Matt Smith had the difficult job of filling David Tennant's shoes when he was cast to play the Eleventh Doctor — but according to fans, he nailed the role.

>>79597825
It isnt working for me too for some reason xD

>>79597843
>who has a net worth of $30 million.
lolno

Are there any really oldfaggets who remember watching S1-S4 ongoing? What was your reactions? To trailers, to cliffhangers, etc.
Share some memories.

>>79586799
Moffat twattery.

I hate the way he writes all women as the same smutty adolescent Carry On fantasy. Well, two fantasies, actually. Brothel madame/ dominatrix socialite who's saucy, sassy, and compulsively flirtatious, and dismisses all men as "naughty little boys" (River Song, Mother Superious Tasha Lem, Irene Adler). Or quirky, kooky, quippy hipster girls who regard the Doctor with wide-eyed adoration (Amy Pond, Clara, Sally Sparrow), whose supporting cast, if they even get one, includes the Boyfriend and their cardboard cut-out, cartoonish caricature of a family (Augustus Pond, Clara's Nan).

I hate the way he writes the Doctor. I hate the way that Matt Smith's Doctor monologued at tedious length about great and amazing and clever and scary he is in every other episode and all his enemies shat themselves on cue. I hate that every seasonal arc is a masturbatory fanfic that now revolves around how important the Doctor is to time and space and history and how everything in the entire universe revolves around him. I hate that the Doctor never loses - that nobody ever loses, that nobody even gets a compromised win - that Moffat straight up lies to the audience, through his writing and his interviews, and then throws out everything he's already established with some timey-wimey lolsorandom technoshit and goes "Ha! Fooled you with my cleverness, -again-, you dummy! Bet you never saw that coming!" His Doctor is a playground Doctor with an invincible shield that protects him from everything, even invincible shield destroyers. Moffat's a guy that doesn't understand intelligence. He thinks a smart character is just somebody you give all the answers and explanations for the plot to. He thinks clever writing is telling other people the wrong information, or hiding the right information, and deceiving them, in order for his big reveals to be a surprise.

>>79597798
I remember seeing Chris Eccleston's series one trailer and I was probably the most hyped I have ever been for anything back then.

I miss the grittiness of the first series.

>>79587737
>But the double entendre is shit writing because it was literally only put into the script as a line to make the audience think The Doctor was mad. There's no in-character reason at all for the Doctor to break his plan to Clara in the way that he did.
Stopped reading there. You're an idiot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRkqlpZeGq8

The clock is striking 13's

>>79597944
Not being funny, but I'm going to be an actual sobbing mess when Capaldi regenerates, and I've never cried at a Doctor leaving before

>>79597944
>Say goodbye
>To Twelve

NO. YOU CAN'T MAKE ME.

>>79598001
I almost cried for 11.
I was upset when 10 left, but the fangirls shitting on 11 and holding 10 up to a god status ruined it for me.

>>79597901
I remember me and all my friends sat round the TV watching 'The Stolen Earth' when it first aired. Damn, everyone was so excited. Captain Jack, Sarah Jane, Rose, Daleks, Davros. If nothing else, RTD knew how to hype up the fans.

I think 'New Earth' was my first episode. I was at a friend's house and it was on TV. I didn't really understand it at all, but I later found the episodes on Gold or Watch or some channel like that. I think The Girl in the Fireplace was one of my first episodes. I bought Series 2 Volume 5 at Tesco and watched those (Fear Her, Army of Ghosts, Doomsday) and loved it. I later found out it was Series 2 so I begged and begged to get Series 1 (I pronounced Series like 'serious' cos it wasn't a word I was accustomed to at 7/8), but didn't get it for a few months. I later did watch them and loved it.

I think 'Smith and Jones' was the first episode I properly watched following along with everyone who watched it. My nana was going to record it cos we went out for tea on that night, but she ended up recording whatever show was on before it so I was majorly fucked off as you'd expect.

Sorry for the biography.

>>79597901

I was 7 when S1 first aired. It was only really from S3 onwards that I remember seeing trailers and I distinctly remember seeing the teaser for The Runaway Bride on TV at my grandads and also the first one for S3 when (I don't know if it still is) CBBC was on BBC One between like 3 and 5.

I also remember the Series 4 trailers and the hype around Kylie Minogue and then Donna's return. And 10's regeneration cliffhanger which was all my class at school spoke about - and that included my teacher and I remember reassuring her that Tennant was staying, despite not even knowing.

>>79597901
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szPvrLXfZ2o

The Stolen Earth cliffhanger blew me away and got me really hyped. I remember my friend calling me immediately after the episode ended and we just talked about how fucking shocked we were,

shame that journey's end sucked

>>79598106
oh and also Martha's return was big discussion at school when the S4 trailer came out.

>>79597944
And now it's time for one last bow,
like all your other selves,
Twelve's hour is over now,
the clock is striking one's pm

Who remembers Battles in Time cards as well?

I gave the Super Rose card to a friend because I thought it was shit. Turns out it was 1 in 1000 packs and goes for a tasty 30 quid on Ebay now.

>>79598145
>tfw no one else at my school liked Doctor Who
>picked on for having a talking dalek pencil case
>decided to join in with everyone else one day and played football
>got whacked in the chest and couldn't breath properly for about half an hour

>>79586799
>>79597913

I hate that the only quality that Moffat thinks a boy should have in order to deserve a relationship with a hot girl is the desire to be with a hot girl. All his boyfriends have to do is really, REALLY want to be with them, and they'll put up with no end of abuse or neglect or bullshit, not because they have no self-esteem, but because they're -selfless-. "Rory Williams, the Boy who fucking Waited, and Nightingale guy from Blink). They don't have to be anything, at all, to be an attractive partner themself. They don't need ambition or honesty or integrity or intelligence or kindness or passion or decency or wit or anything. They just need to really want to be with someone attractive and they get that as a reward.

Things like chemistry or compatibility or values or interests or sharing or caring or sacrifice or understanding or fun or challenge don't enter into the equation because his girls are manic pixies and his boy's are nice-guy nerds without personalities or histories or anything authentic at all.

The only realistic relationship that he's ever written was Danny Pink and Clara, and shockingly - that was abusive and controlling. For some reason, Clara owes this man she barely knows full details on who she's with and where she is and what she's doing at all times, and naturally, by sheer virtue of being a man who "cares about her", he knows what's best for her, despite knowing next to nothing about her.

>tfw my first ongoing episode was eleventh hour

>>79598202
Kek, yes. And they had Slitheen scratch and sniff cards which smelled of rotten eggs, as well as really obscure character cards like "Refugee 1" who was apparently a character in Utopia

There was some really good merchandise back in the day

Is there ANYONE who was a fan of the old series, or knows someone who was, that can describe their reaction to finding out that Doctor Who was returning?

I'm really interested.

>>79598202
I remember them very well! We were always trading at school. Think I still have my collection in the attic somewhere. Will have to look through and see if there are any rare ones

TURN ON BBC NOW

>>79598202
hell yeah, those cards were the best
i think the tardis was my rarest card

>>79598280
I've still got that scratch n stiff pickled eggs card and it still smells like shit lmao

>>79598284
You should do. I still have my collection. They were once banned at our school for some reason? I think people were becoming jealous of other's having better cards. A friend of mine had an aunt that would buy him like five packs every day or something.

>>79598282
As I posted earlier, I was 7 when it returned but I used to watch early Tom Baker with my grandad at the weekends. I don't think I was excited about it returning cause I obviously hadn't grown up with it as others had but I watched and loved it anyway.

What the hell was The End of Time?
Just... what was any of that?

>>79598333
???

>>79598282
Was young when it came back, but I watched 70's/80's stories on the TV, because they were always on repeat, oblivious to the concept of regeneration and all the other actors who played the Doctor

So when I was told there was "new Doctor Who" coming, I thought it would be with Tom Baker, just with better cameras. I remember being confused as to who Eccleston was playing

>>79598232
No one liked Doctor Who in my school either. Or Star Wars.

OH MY GOD MATT

TURN ON BBC ONE RIGHT NOW

>>79598497
No.

>>79598497
explain
don't have a tv right now

>>79598375
Ignore anon - there's an alt-history nazi drama on

>>79598528
It's nothing.

>>79598282
I was 11 when nuwho came to the States; I had never seen Classic before and only heard about it from my dad.
I remember being a little freaked out by how grotesque and bizarre series 1 was, but somehow it sucked me in.
Now I'm obsessed.

>>79598528
She wants you to think Matt Smith has died.

>>79598469
There was only one person who watched Doctor Who except me.
We were 11 years old or something.

He actually watched only one episode. Or rather one scene.
My classmate, 11 year old kid, accidentally watched Empty Child ending with Constantine turning into monster and monsters gathering around Doctor. And he was alone when it happened.
He said it was creepiest thing he had ever seen in his life and he had nightmares for a damn week.

Presumably it was the only piece of DW he had seen.

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>>79598562
>she

>>79598608
Fantastic. Doctor Who needs to be properly scary again.

>>79597913
>>79598262
>>79586799

I hate that he's wasted 7 years of the show's potential. I hate that he's betrayed two great actors with shitty scripts and one-dimensional characters. I hate that the Doctor has gone from being a flawed but inspirational hero to being a leering creep who leches over his companions and bullies his enemies. If he's not sizing up Clara and her too tight skirt, he's belittling her for being old and ugly. There's a lot of ways to stress that the Doctor's alien. Cracking on Clara's appearance is a strange way to go. Stephen Moffat's doctor is Zapp Brannigan, without the laughs.

More than anything though, I hate that he's turned the show into something that's poisonous to kids. Classic Who was full of big ideas and imagination and possibilites. For all the techno-bullshit, it was still science fiction done right, because it was about moral choices and consequences and all the ways our society could go wrong. In RTD's era, he made the Doctor domestic, and even if the satire was crude and the sci-fi was closer to fantasy, you at least learned about people, their flaws and failings and strengths and triumph.

But in Moffat's Who, you don't learn anything about science or the future or society or humanity or ethics. You don't learn about people, or relationships, because there's nothing remotely resembling a real person or relationship in his writing. You just learn about the Doctor, and how special he is, and which toy-range will be available next Christmas after he's blown it all up in the latest episode.

>>79598694
But he didn't want to watch it anymore at all. It was that scary for him.

>>79598698
>>79598698
>>79598698
>>79598698

new thread

>>79598711
nice pasta

>>79598722
Him telling that story to others probably got them to watch it though.

>>79598765
sorry for blogging
I'm just sad
I just wish everybody hated NuWho the right way like me

>>79596953
The same way the first Doctor regenerated his clothes