>he's a pope but he drinks liquor and has sex all while

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>>79497975

>>79497975
i have hbo but i don't watch this.

I don't get this show, is it like a historical show, or set in the present type thing

he doesnt have sex in the show.

the pop music is annoying though.

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Fucking love this show

>>79498105
>Do you have to have 89 IQ to like this show?

Well this answers it.

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>>79497975
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>79497975
>I've seen other people talking about this, but I haven't watched a single episode, but here's my shitty opinion anyway
I know you're only meming, but I'm still disgusted with you

>>79498083
Set in the present

>>79498083
It's House of Cards in the Vatican

>>79498236
No it's not
It's focused on character development and relations

>>79498236
...maybe if you only watch until episode 6, I can kinda see why you'd say that. But no, that's pretty far off the mark.

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>>79498104
>he doesnt have sex in the show.
It's implied he does

>>79498281
No its not.

You're a fucking brainlet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lux49tqeOlE

>>79498281

Troll or moron?

>>79498355
Just american.

>>79498281
No

Trolling about young pope isnt even funny, because I would fell bad if someone didnt watch this KINO and my shitposting was the reasong for that.

>>79498083
It's like Shameless but they try harder to appeal to dumb millennials with current music.

>>79498500
Dumb pop music is one of Sorrentino's trademarks, friend

>>79498384
>hehe le Americans will never understand ART meme
I can't get too angry, because I know this is pretty much all you have, but most of us loved it

>>79498500
Sorrentino just likes his Pop music, it in all his Kinos. Sadly.

>>79498587
>Sadly.
What a colossal pleb.

>>79498612
Its fucking shit and overused. I still love his movies though.

>>79498281
Are you a moron?

>>79498587
>Pop music
>Kino

Pick one, friend.

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>show about the catholic church
>absolutely no children get molested
>absolutely no one get cucked
0/10 not even trying.

>>79498721
>absolutely no children get molested
...haven't finished the series yet, have you?

>>79498717
I criticized it

>>79498721
>absolutely no children get molested
There's literally a whole arc about a New York bishop who's under review because of this.

Did you even watch the show?

>>79498721
>absolutely no one get cucked
except for that narco, kek

Please be serious. This is just a meme show, right? Literally no one has ever discussed this show in any detail and no one explains why it's great tv other than just spamming "kino."

>>79497975
dropped it after suffering through 5 episodes. this shit is even worse than pleb men.

>>79498801
what, we had great threads the past months

>>79498656
>>79498717
What do you dislike about it? The music selections on this show are perfect, and "The Great Beauty" had an excellent soundtrack too. That's all I've seen from Sorrentino but I'm planning to watch the rest shortly, I was very impressed.

It seems like he uses music as a very basic, earnest, unironic expression of emotion, which can feel kind of embarrassing or "corny" for some people. I've seen someone else call it "emotionally manipulative," but isn't filmmaking basically the art of emotional manipulation?

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>show is aired in Europe
>threads hitting bump limit all talking about how great it is
>show is aired in the US
>NUH UH DIS LYK SUM HOUSE OF CURDS OR SUMTIN RITE?? *dabs niggerly*

>>79498801
>This is just a meme show, right?
No its a brilliant show about a man's faith in God.

>>79497975
This show is terrible.
/tv/ loves it, calls it "kino" and spergs out over it like it's a masterpiece.
Adds up.

>>79498801
Pretty much a meme. The only people that seem to like it here are butthurt Euros and spics who are cucktholics themselves.

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>>79498801
>>79498820
>>79498836
>>79498888
Dear God
We really need to talk about retarded Americans who can't appreciate a series without explosions and wacky humor, just you and me

>>79498824
>>threads hitting bump limit all talking about how great it is
300+ posts of "it's kino" isn't a discussion, just shitposting.

>>79498946

Talk then. Convince me the show isn't a meme.

I'll give you 5 minutes. You better start explaining. Now.

>>79498999

We discussed it to death and back though

>>79499017
It has a lot of layers and hidden connections, but if you require spoon-feeding, just skip it.

>>79498801
In all seriousness - It might be the best show I've ever seen. The whole show has a sense of humor, but there's no irony here, it's an earnest, heartfelt, and highly ambitious exploration of the relationship between man and God, and the evolving purpose of a "Church" as a middleman between the two.

It's the kind of show that should be "corny" on paper, and it's almost embarrassing to admit the emotional impact the "corniness" actually had on me. So for the most part, it's easier to meme. But I think everyone should at least give this series a chance and decide for themselves.

Sorrentino is the filmmaker that Terrence Malick has spent his whole career trying to be

>>79499147
this really. you don't even have to be religious or catholic to appreciate it. /tv/ memes about kino but this show actually deserves the moniker.

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>>79499096

>"It's just too deep bro, you wouldn't understand."

Okay, I'm now convinced it's a meme show.

>>79499147

You're right in the quality and it being the best single season ever made.

However, I don't think the church or religion is the message at all. To me it was all about love and growth -- with religion as a framing point.

Either way, this show is genuinely beautiful.

>>79498105
Dumb animeposter.

>>79499017

Characters are great, they change through the show as they stumble and fail. Lenny goes from this autistic authoritarian wuth radical outdated as fuck ideas to someone more open to new ways of thinking. Voiello goes from this manipalive politician to someone completely human, devoid of any wishes of glory and power and even thinking about finding love outside the church. Also he's officially /ourguy/

The photography is out of this world, no one does composition like Sorrentino. He is a contemporary genius

The themes are so rich that comparing it not only with HoC which is either an epic meme or some kind of retarded Netflix shilling, but to Mad Men is an insult. For instance, Lennys ideas and his feelings are perfectly interwined (absence is presence for the Church which is exactly how he feels about his parents) and there are many more.

The humour falls flat sometimes but other than this is a 10/10 show up there with Sopranos and The Wire.

ITT: Absolute fucking mental midgets with a couple patricians

>>79499308
Personal growth is learning to love yourself, and God IS love. Your interpretation and mine aren't mutually exclusive.
This is what I mean. A genuine discussion of this show would be embarrassing. KINO, snacktime-button, plebs, etc

>>79497975
Just make a show about these guys and be done with it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Borgia

Pretentious pleb as fuck show.

>>79499391

They did though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Borgias_(2011_TV_series)

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>>79499322
>complaining about anime on website originally dedicated to japanese culture and other nerd shit

>>79498236
except house of cards is fucking garbage

>>79499388
Good point.
Maybe i'm just ignorant to the religious aspect since I don't appreciate religion.

>44 year old
>young

>>79498801
Yes it's a bad meme, only eurotrash and redditors like this garbage.

>>79499345
>this is a 10/10 show up there with Sopranos and The Wire
The Sopranos could definitely be called a 10/10, The Wire is at least an 8 or 9, but they're both so cynical that I have to put The Young Pope in a higher category.

I know it gets memed to oblivion, but Twin Peaks is the only show I can think of that has the same kind of transcendent quality as The Young Pope. I've never seen "The Decalogue" yet. And what else is there at this level of ambition & quality?

>brainlets calling this show pretentious

I think a new movie about that talking raccoon in a spaceship is coming out, check that out!!

>>79499463
>WE WUZ WEEBZ N SHIEEET
4chan is meeting place for neo-nazi alt-right trump voters.

>read review when show first comes out
>wacky characters made extreme for american audiences
>read reviews when in comes out in america
>foreign film makers just don't understand how to captivate the american audience. Too weird.
>read 4chan reviews
>I don't get it, garbage for plebs, meme show, show for idiots
>watch show
>its pure unadulterated kino

Its truly fitting this show is met with so much resistance. I don't know if you deserve this show.


its also a show women will never EVER understand

>>79497975
Not what happens but it's even worse than that

Starts off as a hardline reactionary looking to root out degeneracy.

Goes back on it preaching hippy bullshit and says he grew up. It's horseshit.

>>79499597

So childless single men who masturbate to anime?

>>79498281
>It's implied he does
they only slightly suggest he had sex in his youth, not during his papacy

>>79499635
He literally smites a degenerate, what are you talking about? The thing about homosexuality? What argument could he have possibly made to Gutierrez in that last scene? fucking plebs I swear

>>79499533

Nah Twin Peaks can't be compared to this with that piece of shit second season. Fire Walk with Me is KINO though but still

/tv/ never shuts the fuck up about that's how you know it's trash.

Why would you value the opinion of a board that has a daily Dr Who general?

>68 posts
>32 ip
>half the posts are about how the show is shit and pretentious reddit shit

so, bored samefagging troll??

>>79497975
Wisdom
modsiW

>>79499345
>Lenny goes from this autistic authoritarian wuth radical outdated as fuck ideas to someone more open to new ways of thinking.

Trash, in other words.

>>79499391
>Just make a show about these guys
Been done, both were shite.

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>Under all that ice, could be God.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_vhwZZjgac

This scene was confusing to me but I loved it. Now I'm reading all the YouTube comments and everyone is saying the Pope was hitting on the Prime Minister in a very subtle way and the whole God under ice thing was a classy pick up line. Do you agree /tv/? I feel like my virginity and lack of contact with women are making me unable to understand even the most basic innuendos.

>>79499759

Yes, that's what you are

wow, /tv/, today i truly became disappointed in you.
TYP is one of the greatest new series and you can't take it seriously because you don't understand it

>>79499743
That's what I mean. It sounds like hyperbole, but I really think The Young Pope might be the best ever made. Twin Peaks occasionally reaches the same level, but you're right, the quality is not consistent.

>>79499735
>i'm just going to send the child molesting homo to alaska

Yeah, really got that shit out of there didn't he?

And yes I'm talking about the fucking homos. He said out, then he changes his mind because he "grew up".

Liberal horseshit, what that show is.

>mfw americans will never get to enjoy this because their racemixing has fucked up their european genes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isgydm69YLE

Sad when you think about it

>>79499797

Real sharp comeback kiddo

The Young Pope doesn't fuck and will never fuck.

Is this show the ultimate pleb filter of TV shows?

Pure kino

>>79499869
nah that's still mad men.

The Young Pope's cinematography is more of an open clue that the show is quality

What happened to Tonino bros?

>>79497975
he doesnt drink or have sex you mong

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>>79499925

You don't want to know it

>>79499844
prime minister a cute! CUTE!

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>38 unique ips out of almost 100
>half of the posts are just spouting "kino"

Really gets those neurons firing, huh?

I don't even know what to believe about this show thanks to all the shitposting.

Is he really an edgy atheist?

>>79499925

Probably in alaska making snow angels or whatever meme punishment

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>>79499963
>FLEET

>>79499984
Don't you understand though?

It's kino, KINO!

Anyone else think Pope is /fa/ as fuck?

>>79499999
>Is he really an edgy atheist?

At first. Then he finds god and becomes all compassionate and faggy

>>79500080

Well /fa/ are a bunch of faggots that can't dress for shit

I don't understand how pleb someone would have to be to see the themesong of this show and not be interested

>>79500000
Is nobody going to check this?

>>79499827
I feel bad for you

>>79500000


Nixe get, boi


Well done

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>>79499999
Those are edgy quints

>>79499984
>trying to counterpost this >>79499752

Netflix is shit and House of Cards is unwatchable, and you didn't like this show because you're a pleb

Deal with it and move on

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>>79499999
>>79500000
>mfw sequential quints
wew lad

>>79498281
literally retarded

>>79499791
I think it's less flirting and more of a power play. The Pope brings up the small Catholic community in Greenland which the prime minister responds to by talking about the larger evangelical presence there.

He shoots her down (in kind of a dumb way imo, "we were there first"). Then he asks whats under the ice and again she's quick with an answer. Sticking to his guns, the pope says "could be god" but smiles cause its a joke.

I guess you could consider it flirting, the real question is if its the prime minister at the end of the episode dancing. I'm pretty sure it is since it says the Greenlanders are dancers and I think its implying she got some holy cock.

>>79499713
>You said to me, on that deserted beach in California, "you can touch my legs." But I didn't do it.
he never had sex

>>79500561
>implying those two kids with the woman aren't his kids

I honestly don't know the answer to this quesiton, /tv/. I too feel the urge to shit on stuff that is regarded as great if I didn't like it and I also will defend to death stuff that I do like. I will find something that I consider objectively bad in something and yet I'm never convinced when people shit on the stuff I love.

For example I believe that a lot of scenes from 2001 are unnecessary, like the video chat, or that Lawrence of Arabia is portrayed by a guy that projects faggy vibes so strong that I can't see him as a compelling leader, someone that people will follow to their death. And yet I love young pope and knight of cups and believe that people who don't like them just don't have the perspective to enjoy them. I don't think it has anything to do with smartz, just with having some prior exposure to some stuff, and I believe that it's their loss that they can't appreciate this stuff but someday they may.

And all would have been well and good but I also like to discuss the stuff that I love but I don't like to look at posts that shit baselessly on it over and over again, thinking that they are right, while I myself am like that over other things. It's an endless cycle of getting triggered and triggering others.

>>79499147
Too bad the second season will suck because this was supposed to be a miniseries and it had the perfect ending.

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>>79498888
>>79499999
>>79500000
Did Lenny just pray for this shit?

>>79500881
>and believe that people who don't like them just don't have the perspective to enjoy them.

Or they like different things and don't enjoy the subject material.

Is it worth watching this if I'm atheist? Are there lots of themes about people finding God and shit? I can't take any of that seriously.

>>79501018
Numbers don't lie anon

>>79499759
He stays a hardline conservative, the only change is when he acknowledges that a gay guy is a good priest, which he did not believe was possible before.

>>79501008
I agree, I can only see it going downhill from here. If they do continue, I hope they take a few years to really do it right. They'd better not pull a "True Detective" on this

>>79501045
Like some people have said previously, the whole series can be enjoyed through the various other themes. Even if you hate religion I don't think it'd be hard to see the religious aspects as just framing for the other parts and still get something from the show

>>79499746
What did you expect watching two episodes of one of the dullest franchise in the history of tv franchises. Seriously each episode following Pope Pius XIII and his cardinal pals as they fight assorted other members of the Church has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the gloomy imagery, the series’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and inaccurate use of curial politics, all to make faith faithless, to make belief seem nonexistent.

Perhaps the die was cast when Pope Francis vetoed the idea of Spielberg directing the series; he made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody. Just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for his policies which he will never finish before being stabbed to death by a refugee. The Young Pope might be anti-Benedict XVI (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-Catholic series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and faith. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.

>a-at least the writing was good though
"No!"
The writing is dreadful; the direction was terrible. As I watched, I noticed that every time Pius went for a walk, Sorrentino wrote instead that a miracle "happens".

I began marking on the back of an envelope every time a miracle occured. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several hundred times. I was incredulous. Sorrentino's mind is so governed by cliches and literal shit metaphors that he has no other style of writing. Later I read a lavish, loving review of The Young Pope by a Redditor. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are watching Sorrentino at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on Reddit." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you watch "Sorrentino" you are, in fact, trained to be a Redditor.

>>79501045
>Are there lots of themes about people finding God and shit?

That's pretty much the theme.

If you were someone that became disillusioned with the soft direction the church has taken over the years you would be even more disappointed because you're drawn in with the new pope acting like he's gonna bring the church back to its roots.

>>79501045
>Are there lots of themes about people finding God and shit? I can't take any of that seriously
You don't deserve this show, just stay out of this. You won't like it.

>>79501008
wait there's gonna be a second season? why?

>>79501089
literally backsliding

It's liberal bullshit, next season he'll be kissing muslim feet and all that nonsense.

>>79499999
>Is he really an edgy atheist?
no.
but he struggles with faith.
you should just watch it, this show is very hard to actually discuss because it's about feelings, thats why we mostly meme

>>79501136
>You don't deserve this show, just stay out of this. You won't like it.

Blow it out your ass you pretentious cuck.

>>79501023
Yeas that is true I wasn't very clear, I'm talking about people who shit on something that is good. Not enjoying something is one thing, for example I can say that I didn't enjoy the Godfather and still I can say that it's good, but if I went all "wtf glorifying fucking crime what is this garbo? like macaroni spaghetti make a cooking show lmao why no gabagoool?" I think I wouldn't have been in the right, and this is what happens with the pope (and as long as I previously went there, mallick).

>>79500543
>I'm pretty sure it is since it says the Greenlanders are dancers and I think its implying she got some holy cock.
imo Prime Minister dancing was his dirty thoughts about her, but he controlled them and imagined her dancing instead of being naked

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>>79499147

>Sorrentino is the filmmaker that Terrence Malick has spent his whole career trying to be

>>79500543
Lenny is a flirtatious guy, even if it's innocent. He said she was pretty so he lightened the mood with dumb comments like that and that got her in the mood to dance later. That's a big part of who Lenny is -- he brings the beauty out in other people.

>>79501268
>I'm talking about people who shit on something that is good.

The cinematography and aesthetics are the only good things about TYP, the rest is garbage.

>>79501284
I kinda thought the same thing when I saw "The Great Beauty" a few years ago. They're very similar in a lot of ways, and I think Sorrentino is a better writer

>>79500184
I watched it with mummy and she's always flinch when JPII got heemed because she's a Polish Catholic.

>>79501356
>Polish

Truly I am sorry to hear that.

>>79501205
I mean, you literally said you "can't take it seriously" when other people have religious or spiritual experiences, so I really don't think you'd like it. I don't think it'd be impossible for an atheist to appreciate this series, but if you're the type of atheist who mocks and looks down on all non-atheists, it's not for you.

>>79501415
There's more than one anon here shitting on your "kino" dumbass

>>79501324
nice fucking discussion we got there

I MEAN LIKE PRETTY PICTURES BUT LIKE THEY SAY GOD??? WHAT IS THAT, A REVERSE DOG??? LIKE WTF IT'S 2017 PEOPLE RACE WARZ IN THE NAME OF SCIENCE

>>79501443
>pope gonna fix the church
>lel nope i grew up

eat a dick hippy

>>79501097
>>79501149
The producer that isn't Sorrentino or Law says there will be. I really don't know how they can do it right. Having Lenny survive the heart attack just to come back to politicking would defeat the purpose of the show, it was the anti-HoC, it started off politics and became religious slice of life. If they bring him back and try to keep the slice of life going forever, the show will become The Lenny Show with Special Guest (X) every episode.

>>79498781
Also the swiss guard.

>>79501415
that was different guy you replied to here than me who said i cant take it seriously

Anyway, I meant more like, I'd find it boring in that I would think the topic is silly, like if I watched two people having a deep discussion about whether ghosts are real. Just thinking the whole time "I already know ghosts aren't real, can they please move on to a new topic?"

>>79501465
You really are a mental midget aren't you

>>79501465
you completly missed the point of the series you flaming faggot, it was not some "fixing the church" power fantasy

>>79501380
Fortunately not actually Polish, American, just from a family that was originally Polish. That's what being Polish is to Polish-Americans, muh JP and muh kielbasa.

>>79497975
>diane keaton
Wait, what!?

>>79501510
Double-cucked at that, she got the dick from a priest and the romance from a pope

>>79501573
She's probably the weakest part of it too

>>79501465
honestly i'm confused by pope's behavior as well, I'm going to give him a benefit of the doubt until the second season to see if there was any meaningful reasoning behind that. The way things are he either had very little reasoning behind his initial plan or is swayed like a leaf by something that i feel wasn't conveyed very strongly. I like the characters that grow and change but I also like radical characters to have some serious reasoning for changing status quo (but the more I think about it the more it looks like that it was sort of teenage angst that came from longing for his parents).

>>79497975
>drinks liquor

But lots of popes drink liquor, Catholicism has no problem with liquor.

>and has sex

No

Stop being a pleb

>>79501515
Maybe you should give it a watch and see what you think. It might interest you to discover that the people in the highest positions of the Church aren't nearly as arrogant in their faith as you are in yours. The characters in this show are constantly challenging and questioning their beliefs.

I know it's just a dumb TV show and I'm blowing it out of proportion, but maybe it'll put a few thoughts into your head other than "I already know everything about the world"

Seriously, I've never seen a ghost before and have no reason to believe in their existence. But if you put me at a table with two (mostly) reasonable adults who are firmly convinced that they've met and interacted with ghosts, I would be very interested to hear what they have to say.

>>79497975

should I start this or Taboo?

inb4
>be very careful

>>79501646
>he either had very little reasoning behind his initial plan
yes. he was a broken and lost man getting back at world because he never knew love, Spencer said it best

>>79501693
why didn't he save Spencer?

>>79501646
It's pretty obvious that his initial "plan" wasn't very well thought out. I think a lot of people come into the show expecting some epic HoC type character that can perfectly manipulate the people and politics surrounding them, and don't realize that's not what Lenny is. He's young, inexperienced, and lost. Too many people want Lenny to be a "badass" and therefore are ignorant to the flaws in his early dealings of the church

>>79501748
I get the impression he doesn't exactly control these "episodes," there are just certain moments when he realizes he can do something about it. That stop at the gas station obviously wasn't planned ahead of time

Besides, Spencer was ready to go. I don't think he would've wanted to be resurrected.

>>79501538
>>79501560
>someone doesn't like my pretentious finding god nonsense
>must be stupid

Perhaps they should have opened with a hardline conservative pope fixing the church angle, you think of that?

>>79501693
>>79501797

t. cucks

Don't you have some refugees to take care of?

>>79501748
Spencer died of old age. he lived a long life, left no unfinished business and passed away when his time came. it's not like he was a young person who got ill with some sickness, praying to extent his life would be selfish and wouldn't really even cross Lennys mind

>>79501810
>Perhaps they should have opened with a hardline conservative pope fixing the church angle, you think of that?
What are you even trying to say? They basically did open with that exact idea. The only times he changed his mind were the times when he encountered an exception that he couldn't ignore or argue away, which tends to happen when you start putting ideas into practice.

>>79501693
Well then I guess I will appreciate his journey as a very candid and naive one, but then again his keikaku with prime minister of italy seems to have worked out so i feel mixed messages.

>>79501748
Didn't Spencer want to die? I feel like listening to Lenny's story and dying afterwards was his salvation.

>>79501797

They didn't help themselves with trailers and Lenny's first encounter with Voiello, but I feel that it was a deliberate bait and switch tactic, to lure in someone with the promise of HoC and give them something much more if they were willing to take it.

>>79501646
He has nearly the same plan he did at the beginning. The only change was what the marketing lady told him -- all stick no carrot. His objectives and means stayed the same and he was vindicated in the end. He was right to say that the Church lost all real sway by putting itself out there too much. He just learned that, ultimately people also need to feel the Church's love as well. The entire character of Lenny is that he is Christlike. His entire arc is fulfilling his Christlike destiny. Christ also clearly established there is a place for love and fury in the Church.

>>79501810
why? again, it's not some power fantasy about fixing the church. it's not like the church would really be fixed because it was done in the show. and not like there is one objective way of fixing the church, many people would argue that it doesnt even need any fixing. shows asks questions, does not provide with answers because those would be just personal opinions.
show about Lenny making the church conservative would be on the same level of retardation as if some butthurt liberal made a show about Hillary winning the US election and making America great, ultimately pointless.

>>79501670
I started both at the same time, they're actually a good mix. TYP makes you feel good in a spiritual way, Taboo makes you feel good in a baser way because it's a pulp conspiracy story with Bane and ghosts.

>>79501885
>>79501907
>it was a deliberate bait and switch tactic, to lure in someone with the promise of HoC and give them something much more if they were willing to take it.

Give them bullshit more like.

>>79502032
So you're literally just pissed that the show doesn't conform 100% to your political leanings?

>>79502009
>why? again, it's not some power fantasy about fixing the church

Exactly, you retard.

>many people would argue that it doesnt even need any fixing

t. cuck

Crying lads:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2Yl0ALK3-4

>>79502089
>So you're literally just pissed that the show doesn't conform 100% to your political leanings?

Because the show starts off with a premise that agrees with my political leanings and then drops it. So piss on the young cuck.

>>79502221
m8 you didn't just miss the point of this series, you missed the entire point of Christianity. I get the impression you'd be enthralled by the Old Testament, and then throw the book away as soon as Jesus starts talking. You're not Christian, you're actually just a confused Jew who got lost

>>79502221

you sound like someone who if Trump lost would white fan fiction about him winning

>>79502221
>Because the show starts off with a premise that agrees with my political leanings and then drops it. So piss on the young cuck.
its clearly a dream sequence niga

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best song coming through

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z498JqZD_k

>>79502305

I don't give a shit about the new testament, I can tell you that.

The credits sequence with the PM just dancing in the hall was one of my favorite parts if the show. She's captivating and the whole bit is prime kino

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>>79502305

>>79502406
Did you get molested by gays when you were a kid? Seriously what's your damage?

He doesn't come out and say "gay sex isn't a sin anymore!" He just acknowledges that Gutierrez's sin is very different from the child molestor's, which would be literally unavoidable in that situation

>>79501988
okay thanks this makes sense, I guess he wasn't really anti-anything, he simply felt that sticking to the firm doctrine and making people work for their religion was the right way to go but during his journey as a pope he discovered more about humanity and adjusted his plan accordingly.

>>79502541
That song got stuck in my head for a few days, even though I don't understand the lyrics

Even the Americans who defend this show defend it based on misinterpretations. Lmao.

>>79502756
Christianity in a nutshell: Pretty much everything you want to do is a sin. All sins are forgivable as long as you're capable of recognizing them as sins. "Harsh in principle, soft in practice" as Spencer says in the last episode. The Church is meant to recognize and condemn actions that are harmful or destructive, but not to condemn or exclude the people who commit those actions.

>>79502756
I would say he very much was anti things, but he learned about pity and mercy. Otherwise, yes. He confirms his bias of homosexuals by looking at how the Church has basically become one of those "adult friendship" clubs for gays, but realizes he wasn't fair when the man he basically decided was his best friend the moment they met is gay. He fully understood what Voiello, Dussolier, and Gutierrez were trying to tell him about sexuality being independent of virtue.

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>>79499999
>>79500000
those are big numbers

>>79502870
Catholicism is not all Christianity.

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>>79503013

>>79503013
Fair enough, just swap the word Christianity for Catholicism

>>79503013
Prot detected

>>79503053
love this meme

>>79497975
>drinks liquor

There is nothing wrong with this. You're confusing Christianity with Islam.

>sex

No he doesn't.

>while they play pop music like i'm sexy and i know it

That song was chosen for only one scene, and had a completely different tone than practically every other scene in the show because of it. I assume that was the point of choosing it.

>>79502382
Nothing is topping Logan's Loop and the Halo cover for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o0RTU6uvXE


starts at 2:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbb-mita0Hs

>>79502870
>muh forgiveness

Weakness and moral decay.

>>79503156
This site is 18+ bud

>>79503156
Starting with Christ?

>>79502870
>Christianity in a nutshell: Pretty much everything you want to do is a sin.

Not at all. Music, dancing, art, sports, sex, drinking. reading, writing....none of these things are sins. This isn't Islam.

You're right about the other stuff, though. There are a lot of relatively harmless things (sex before marriage, for example, or homosexuality) that are sins but they can all be forgiven.

>>79503156
Forgiveness is literally the whole point of Christianity. If you don't like it, go pray to Mecca and pass out leaflets in Dagenham telling people they can't listen to music.

>>79497975
>drinks liquor and has sex
Still better than the actual current """""pope"""""

>>79498105
rural/suburban retard detected

>>79503272
>sex before marriage
>relatively harmless
Widespread =/= harmless. Virgins who marry have massively decreased divorce rates.

>>79498500
>they try harder to appeal to dumb millennials with current music.


Fucking Americans

>>79503601
Correlation != causation.

It's more likely that those have a shared cause (i.e. religiosity) which accounts for at least some of that, and until you control for that, you can't back that claim up.

>>79503480
>wanting to be inner city ghetto trash

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>>79499999
>>79500000
hello operator? check em

1/10 desu. The show is actually pretty interesting and none of what OP is saying is actually true.

Did your show get canceled and The Young Pope took its time slot?

>>79504000

Why does this thread have so many gets?

>>79504057
blessed

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>>79504057
That's what God wants.

>>79504057
the young pope blessed this thread

>>79504057
>jump

This show has been very helpful for me lads, it's nice to be reminded to look for light and virtue in everyone and try to be the person who brings that out in everyone.

>>79498104
its almost like he did it on purpose... hmmmm

>>79497975
>drinks liquor
>has sex
He did not none of that and this isn't The Borgias you fucking twat

>>79499999
I think he's one of those people who want to believe but simply can't.

>>79505799
That's basically what Spencer called him out on.

>>79505650
He actually does drink liquor, but who cares? Catholics aren't puritans who are afraid of alcohol

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>tfw instant comparisons are guaranteed if any future pope takes the name Pius

>>79498281
>>79500447
>>79499713
>>79498712
>>79498431
>>79498355
>>79498305

WELL................

There is that whole cucking of that woman's husband when Lenny plays with the kid all the time.

He couldn't be with her, so he prayed to God to put a baby in her.

>>79498281
literally this holy shit Euros are too retarded to understand this a sexual reference.

They only understand interracial DP scenes with Charlotte Gainsbourg like Nymphomaniac

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>>79503156
>mfw a pleb appears

>>79507870
>There is that whole cucking of that woman's husband when Lenny plays with the kid all the time.
we see that kid like 3 times dude. what are you talking about

>>79508026

And Lenny is either

>changing its diaper
>holding it
>walking it in a stroller

>>79508026
I don't agree that there's any implication that Lenny actually had sex with Esther. But it's pretty obvious that Esther's husband is pretty uncomfortable with their relationship and the way Lenny inserts himself into their family life, and Lenny takes pretty much every opportunity to verbally humiliate the guy in front of Esther

If I were in his shoes, I'd probably feel a little suspicious

>>79507892
>American "education"

>>79508059
well he did pray for the baby to appear so he feels some responsibility

>>79508082
>I'd probably feel a little suspicious
>of the fucking pope
retarded

>>79508082
>Lenny takes pretty much every opportunity to verbally humiliate the guy in front of Esther
like when?

>>79508303
Just the one time he insists the baby looks like her.

>>79508421
>Just the one time he insists the baby looks like her.
lmao that was hilarious

>>79498281
t. literal retard

Stick to video games.

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>>79508657
Don't look at me like that.

>>79498281
all these (you)s im jealous

>>79508657
>skinnyfat as fuck

I thought he was supposed to be sexy?

>>79508790

That's what the song said.

>>79503013
heretics in on my mongolian butter making board!

>>79498105
>IQ of 89 to enjoy
>trumplette enjoys it
>anime trump poster no less

Fucking degenerates

>>79503142
I love pizzicato

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>>79499706
Well...yea. What about it?

>>79503013
Only branch of Christianity that matters

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the ending sucked ass , but i love judas law

>>79498281
>>>/livebunker.rocks/int/

you need to go back

>>79499999
Better an Atheist who wants to be the best Pope he can be and show people the way to God than a faithful but no passion guy.

>>79502110
The church isn't honestly that bad, its the weak joke Pope right now Mr. Petrus Romanus. If we had the Pope from this series in real life people would adore the church because it would be both faithful to its source and also humanist.

The church would meet the challenge of its Pope, God willing.

>>79501668
Thank you.

>>79502659
I don't know what the deal is with /pol/ people. They really hate forgiveness, that is why they love Islam so much. Its like you gotta kill all the refugees and everyone who does "degeneracy" or you are a 'cuck'. I mean its stupid because even Islamic people hate their own religion and want to leave Islamic countries so they can practice it secularly.

>>79508790
>I have to have 9 abs like Batman to be considered sexy

>>79508868
Can you get over the hate bro? Trump beat the MSM and its time to accept he's had serious growing pains but he is going to be a okay prez.

>>79498500
>It's like Shameless
Wait, what?

>>79498236
I thought that was Borgia

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Best joke of the series was when this guy took off the wig, as if that shit had been concealing his identity instead of drawing a ton of attention to himself. I cried like four times in that episode, so it was nice to have a laugh

>>79502659
the problem is that Gutierrez's character is misleading. irl the gays and pedophiles in the ranks of the clergy are mostly allied in a loose coalition known as the "Velvet Mafia". the entire idea of a gay priest who hates predators because he was molested as a kid is a little farfetched. most people with a backstory like that end up much more like Kurtwell. Gutierrez's character will give normies the false idea that there are noble gay pedo victims fighting on the side of justice within the clergy, when in reality such individuals are all aligned with the predators

It's like Spring Breakers, edgy garbage that people here on /tv/ pretend like it's high art

>>79513009
>>79514507
The plebs come out at night

What is the
>watch until episode x, if you don't like it then drop it
of this series? I'm at episode 3 and it just feels weak, I mean the acting is fucking great and some scenes are very good and emotional (like pic related) but it's not hooking me yet and the pope's plans just seem random and nonsensical

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>>79514685
Of course I forgot the image

>>79514685
Just stick with it, it's worth it. I don't want to hype it up too much or say "episode x is le best thing everr," but if you don't completely hate it in the beginning, you'll probably love it by the end.

>>79514685
Probably episode 5, but if you're in that deep you might as well just finish it off to grasp all the memes.

>>79514685
I was pretty into it the whole time, but it's really around episode 6 or 7 that it starts turning into something special

>>79498281
Fucking actually watch the show, you dumb cunt.

>>79501506
resurrection

>>79501506
>the show will become The Lenny Show with Special Guest (X) every episode.
I would still watch.

>>79498721
>>absolutely no children get molested
>>absolutely no one get cucked
0/10 shit bait

I'm about to watch the season finale.

I have to say, this show is INCREDIBLY boring. I'm not Catholic, and I'm American. I don't know if this show is more appealing to a Catholic, specifically Italian Catholics. But still, I came in expecting House of Cards and instead I got Jude Law as 'Man with the largest ego on Earth in white garb'.

There is barely any intrigue or conflict in the show. It's just Jude Law being a foil to the real life liberal Pope. I don't know really care for that. I mean, I don't care if the show is serving as some social commentary/reactionary response to what is going on. Lenny Belgardo is fucking boring, and him being bitter about being orphaned being the driving force behind the show, is just not compelling.

Someone who likes The Young Pope: can you explain why you like it? I just don't understand what is there to like. The music is cheesy. Some of the characters are stock archetypes. Some subplots don't get resolved. There was a dramatic tone shift after ep 6. Like, someone just decided 'Okay, let's try to make it interesting now!'

>>79497975
It's a good show and you obviously didn't watch it.
Chances are that you're an American protestant as well.

>>79516326
>I'm American

Oh, it shows!

>>79498820
name a single good show.

>>79516421
Do you have a valid defense of the show, or can you direct me to a comment thread with some apologetics, that have already been posted?

In the absence of such, I'll just treat you as a troll. I don't know if this is some European pride thing. But maybe you guys just suck at making large-scale television productions. Maybe you just don't have the talent and know-how.

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>>79499999
>>79500000
my god.

>>79516326
at first I was seething then I read

> I came in expecting House of Cards

and knew I was being baited thanks for at least making it obvious for us non-native english speakers

>>79498083
speculative fiction / satire

>>79514685
If you don't love it after the first episode just drop it and stick to comic book movies.

this would have worked better as an anime
anime is the only place where magical realism works

>>79516493
Again. Do you have a defense or are you just going to post throwaway vapid comments?

I've given 9 hours of my life to this show so far, and I feel like my commitment was for nought.

There is no real tension in the show. None. None of the drama is particularly compelling. The show cannot be carried alone by Jude Law and Cardinal Voiello.

>>79516577
but then it wouldn't be half as beautiful looking.

>>79498717
I Can't Escape Myself was kino as fuck, and LMFAO was obviously tongue in cheek

>>79516421
>>79516493
>>79516542
Top kek delusional retards

>>79516582
right.

See you gave yourself away with HoC and your demands. You have to be more subtle. HoC is far too shit for anyone with a brain to be "hoping for more" and the ceaseless demands are sure signs of an uncreative person looking for shitposting material.

>>79516582
>a defense

what kind of mentality is that, you already have made up your opinion so be it
not everything is for everyone

>>79515789
So, rather than merely being Christlike and a saint, he is actually the second coming?

>>79501573
Sister Mary, you mong

>>79516643
>implying taste isn't objective

minor things about preferences are subjective but for the most part its all objective.

Two people of similar intellect will almost unanimously agree on their "taste".

Its why you see whole essay's written in mad men threads and greentexted memes in threads for shows like Lost and the Leftovers

>>79516615
The problem is, the premise of the show is fictional. The Cardinal College will never vote for some 40-year-old unknown American cardinal. Especially one with emotional baggage. I'm sure in real life, they've would've known, "hey this guy probably has deep seeded emotional issues because of his muh parents. Let's not vote for him."

So Jude Law's character becoming pope is contrived. Everything about him is just unrealistic. And it was off screen and barely explained.

So episodes 1-10 is just seeing him, being a narcissistic dick, after off-screen climbed the steps of power. There was no journey like with House of Cards. That's why I'm bringing it up. There is no character development.

Watching 10 eps of someone being an unchecked megalomaniac with no interesting backdrop, no deep philosophical overtones to ponder about, no conflict to keep you coming back for more, no interesting characters, cheesy music/production.

What am I missing? The burden is on YOU to argue that it is a good show despite it having a 'failure' on every checkbox for what most people would consider good.

>>79516763
right yes. HoC of course. sure. Whatever you want.

Here's your 1 allotted (you) back to your hovel now Amir

>>79516763
It's implied that was God who chose him.
>no character development
You must be retarded.

>>79516786
I can't even understand you. If you can't articulate coherent thoughts in the English language, then don't bother shitposting in the future, please. You're wasting my time. I thought I could argue with someone intelligent, see a different perspective, and maybe have a shift in my own perspective -- maybe even have a meeting of the mind.

For that process to occur, we need an intelligent dialogue between more than 1 person. Shitposting does not accomplish anything other than filling the void with nothingness.

>>79516866
but you proved that you didn't actually watch the show when you claimed that there is no character development when pretty much most of the characters go through character development

>>79516866
yes. Sure I agree with whatever you typed. HoC, the part about the lima beans, the shitposting, all of it.

Good job Amir. You better hurry. The internet cafe you're at closes soon and Your bus to the lower west side is coming shortly

>>79516866
You can write long sentences clearly misrepresenting what you saw in the show but in the end it's just you describing how you couldn't appreciate and understand a tale of emotional loss and gain. You ask to explain the show to yourself when you're on a thread with peoples talking about the show, why don't you read what they write about it instead of trolling. Otherwise i'm sorry if you're that stupid

>>79516897
>giving amir more than his (1) allotted (you)

Now fucking pajeet will starve tomorrow. Good job anon. You gonna be giving him (you)'s when he's 40? You got (you)'s saved up to leave him as an inheritance? You don't think Amir will want two (you)'s tomorrow as well?

>>79516897
I have watched 1-9. The African nun seems to have been struck by the hand of God after Pius prayed. Up until now, it was a secular show. Now there is ambiguity about whether there is a supernatural element to it.

Despite this development, I still think there is no development. Pius is still some crypto atheist with a chip on his shoulder, who is pretending to believe unironically. Cardinal Voiello is trying to oust him again, so we're back to episode 3 or whatever. Sister Mary is still a mystery. The ginger friend guy, who was finally getting screen time, he gets killed off for some--presumably character development--but it remains to be seen if it will change Lenny/Pius.

I dunno, episodes 1-6 are very very dry. 7-9 is 'maybe we're going somewhere now'.

>>79517008
So you see a development and still insist there is no development just to stand a point ? and you want people not to think you're stupid ? The fact that the ambiguity is disturbing you this much show that you must have everything explain to you and cannont grasp the visual cues while watching a show.

>>79517008
cont.

My opinion is scathing because I think real talented writers could've made the show interesting from the start, from 1-6. not try to shoehorn something at the end of a season. It's like a tale of two shows. 1-6 and 7-10 are completely different. It's like writer(s) are bipolar. I care not to speculate if this was the intention. It's shitty writing nonetheless. The music is extremely fucking cheesy. Ugh. I just. There are so many things I have to look over, to judge the meat and potatoes, and there's not much to go on. It just is. That's my problem. If I could articulate my biggest gripe: there is no real carrot on the stick in this show. The writers should've made something. The viewership is shit for a reason, and it's not because we're all plebs. Give me something to chew on. Give me something mull over for next week/episode and I'll be hooked. Is that too much to ask for?

>>79517109
>>79517008
(you)ing your own shitpost

amir you know this to be against the rules. I'll have to report you to the authorities

>drinks liquor
>has sex

No he fucking doesn't you autistic sack of shit.

>>79517078
It's too little too late. Asking people to sit through 6 hours of boring shit to see the first possible sign of a development is unfair to ask for. If you turn in an assignment late, it is no longer accepted for credit, right? That's how I feel about 7-10.

>that you must have everything explain to you and cannont grasp the visual cues while watching a show.

It's quite the opposite, friend-o. They beat you over the head with the fact that Lenny is a fedora tipper. He literally tells his confidant "I don't believe in God" in the first episode right? Why not, I don't know, try to make that more subtle? Aside, from Sister Mary, I can't think of anything that is subtle in this show. Everything is in your face. I know many Catholics are stupid, but god damn, it's spoon feeding galore.

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>>79497975
I watched the first episode and was dismayed and the obvious Christophobia portrayed in the series.

>>79500080
I haven't seen any spic manlets that dress like goth ninjas wearing oversized basketball sneakers so no.

>>79517251
If you didn't recognize the quality after the first episode I believe a netflix original or Comic book movie would probably be more your speed

>>79501173
>next season he'll be kissing muslim feet and all that nonsense

I just can't take the current pope seriously after that. Even cardinals were publicly embarrassed. Hopefully the next pope won't be so pathetic and weak.

>>79517251
man the shift in tonality was already done directly after the intro of the serie you fucking moron ! The development is done in every episodes, you must be brain dead to not see it. Why do you insist in writing long diatribe when it just expose your ignorance

Protestants are so jealous of Catholics that they fund propaganda shows to make them appear evil.
This show is for atheists and liberals who dream of fighting the big evil organization that is the church.

>>79517288
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf7wyUw1R6c

Such quality. Nice song. Omg Bling Bling. Omg every other episode, Pius: "I know I'm handsome". Omg, ego so huge. Such Wow. I think this character might be narcissistic... right?

>>79517336
why Do you all insist on feeding on amir. You realize he will become dependent upon your (you)'s and when he has to go back to the wild to hunt for them he will starve

>>79497975
most Italian popes were fucking power hungry assholes who needed to be put in their places, I.E. the Borgia, finest specimens.

>>79517353
what a deep entrenched and thoughtful criticism. You're an absolute mad lad. I've completely reconsidered my opinion due to your shit posts

Holy shit you posted that youtube clip like a boss. Sorrentino on suicide watch. His ass will never recover.

>>79498281

Either a Protestant or an atheist, retarded either way.

>>79517336
Why do you insist on repeating a counterfactual statement on the heel of an ad hominem attack against me?

The weakest form of argument is '2deep4u, u 2 stupid'.

>>79517408
I'm just laughing at (presuming it's you) saying that the show has visual cues and subtext that I'm missing. You can not write something more counterfactual to reality.

Alright, I think I'm being trolled by Euros; time to take my leave. /pol/ does tell me to watch out for foreign flags. It's unfortunate that it's harder to filter you out on these boards.

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>>79517288
"Quality" =/= Production Value

Who here /scdp/

I can't prove to you that Young Pope is an amazing show, and I don't need to.

There's just something so sincere and uniquely bizzare about it all, and there isn't any shoehorned HBO plebshit like you'd see in Game of Thrones or Westworld. I thought I was going to write a much longer post but I really can't find the words right now, so I'll just post this scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf7wyUw1R6c

>>79517353
The dichotomy of sacred and profane, a classic since D'Annunzio: Pius going through (or better, restoring) these millenarial rites while we hear a popular, chessy, modern song emblem of superficiality.
As for the rest of your posts: the show is really slow burning at first, it takes it time to cement the position and extreme undisputable power of Pius XIII in his controversial decisions as new pope, then we see an acceleration in episodes 7-10, as you pointed out, but the point never was to portray a "social climb" akin to Frank Underwood, rather it depicted a complete reversal of tendency in the realistic setting and mentality of the contemporary Catholic Church, which has become steadily more and more liberal (see Pope Francis): the show, something I completely did not expect prior to watching it, presents a Young Pope™ who however completely reverses this all, restoring forgotten rituals, as I said at the beginning, and adopting a reactionary mentality, which I think is really coherent with the reactionary movements which have been rising everywhere: Trump, Brexit, LePen.

>>79517546
The Young Pope doesn't throw you bread crumbs and force cliffhangers to keep you with it-- you're either in or you're out, no part time believers

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>>79517546
>brainwashed lemming enjoys his brainwashing shows

This show unironically made me decide to move to Rome

>>79497975

Agreed this show is garbage.
>pope fucks women, not boys
>pope drinks alcohol, not the blood of boys he sacrificed during the last black mass
>pope appears to be human, not a shapeshifting Space Jew

>>79497975
you don't HAVE to but it certainly helps

>>79517679
>Doesn't live in Rome

Sure thing, anon

>>79517621
what shows do you like then, faggot?

breaking bad? justified? TWD?

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>>79517713
>Implying Television is good.

Stupid americans, this show is the greatest pleb filter ever.

No explosion or fist fight! Not even a hint of a caped superhero, this is shit!

Here's hoping the second season won't take two years to make like the first one did.

>>79518006
The first season took two years? You Euroshits took two YEARS to produce a steaming pile of shit? You are all fucking useless when it comes to television and film production. For fuck's sake, you're amateur.

>>79518034
(You)

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>>79518034
they had to rebuild all the vatican sets since you can't film in the vatican

>>79498500

Just because there's a few pop songs doesn't mean that "they try harder to appeal dumb millnials with current music", may I remind you there's also Recondite, AWVFTS, Venditti etc in its soundtrack. Also, if there's anything that can't be said about Sorrentino, is that the soundtracks of ist films aren't always spot on. Also, you're a colossal faget, kill you're selve

>>79508657

*blocks your path*

>>79498281
Do you think he groped her? I mean did he squeezed her breast?
Also, would you if you are pope?