Was this the most fedora moment in the history of television

>mfw have seen libcucks share this on Facebook at least 3 times
>all with a variation of "really makes you think"

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>Sorkin put his pen down and thought "nailed it" when writing this embarrassing schlock

What's wrong with it?

>>79410292
what the fuck was joey's problem?

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>>79410292
>when my smart, beautiful waifu shares this dreck on Facebook

>>79411094
He may have facts, but we have ALTERNATIVE facts.

>>79410292
Never seen this show. Good lord I'm glad I didn't

So fucking fedora goddamn cringe fuck cunt asspiss.

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>>79410292
>not enjoying a sorkin show

Newsroom and the west wing were supposed to show us what we could be instead of what we are. It was fun and everyone loves walking and talking. I think you need to take a break from /pol/ and try to have some fun in life.

>>79410292
this only triggers amerifats

>>79411178
>smart

Obviously not.

>>79411064
Fucking kek

>The it is smug as fuck but he's right
Shieet

>>79410292

He just rattles off facts and verbally bitch slaps a dumb college girl.

He plays a Republican btw. So in that sense a bit cringe I guess.

Don't watch Sorkin if you don't like it.

>>79410292
>we acted like men
Misogynist much??

>>79411344
But I thought she was. It just killed me.

>>79411392
Halo effect.

>>79411444
I've realized it. I'm thinking more realistically now. I think there's still hope for her.

>>79410292

wow i hate trump now

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>Germany has freedom

>conservicuck analdevastation: the thread

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>>79411571
Because he's wrong.

Maybe it's because the show is dated but he really is wrong. You think Denmark and Sweden are better than the US???

Income tax in Denmark is xtremely high.Sweden is turning into Aleppo. Germany into Iraq, France into Mali. UK is literally Orwell's 1984.

Globalism is shitting up the place something fierce. Foreign investors just buy real estate in big metro areas around the world and sit on it to drive up prices to flip for 300% above actual worth.

Retirement/pension won't be an option for people who are in their 20 and early 30s now. This is just the fucking tip of the iceberg.

Only stupid, sheltered, ignorant liberals who've never been anywhere or actually looked think the world is becoming a better place and that current year is "the best it's ever been".

>>79410292
he will always be remembered for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwcVJMvVWDA

and it probably haunts him

America was NEVER great, Drumpfkins.

>>79410292


made it to 0:18 seconds. holy shit thats cringeworthy

>>79412093
his only great movie. besides the 2nd

>>79411906
>Only stupid, sheltered, ignorant liberals who've never been anywhere or actually looked think the world is becoming a better place and that current year is "the best it's ever been".

How ironic, considering you get all your information about the world from the internet, specifically /pol/

>>79411906
>Income tax in Denmark is xtremely high.Sweden is turning into Aleppo. Germany into Iraq, France into Mali. UK is literally Orwell's 1984.

Have you ever actually been to any of these places?

>>79411094
It's based on misleading stats and straight-up lies.

>22nd in science

How is he measuring this? The US leads the world in peer-reviewed science publishing and nobel prizes.

>178th in infant mortality

That's a good thing, if you're #1 it means you have the highest level of infant mortality.

>we lead the world in only 3 categories

Not even remotely true.

>defense spending, where we spend more than the next 26 countries combined. 25 of whom are allies.

Apparently, he thinks Russia, China, and Iran are US allies. And it's more than the next 10 combined, not the next 26. Either the Newsroom is set in a fictional universe where the US is allied to 2 of those 3 countries, or he's full of shit.

>>79411064
shows how powerful cocaine can be. that moment with the "BUT IT CAN BE" sign made me want to chunder

>>79412267
*He's not wrong that the statement "America is the greatest country in the world" is not based on facts, unless you're using "greatest" to mean "most powerful" or "richest". But surely, he should be able to make his point without telling lies?

>>79412205
Arachnophobia, asshole.

>>79411906
love this fear-mongering rhetoric. ooh, high taxes, country must be shit! ooh, Muslims are evil! your pensions won't be there in twenty years! it's like you're hitting all the RNC talking points instead of actively questioning their validity.

>>79412351
>HE DISAGREED WITH ME HE'S A REPUBLICAN REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>79412375

who are you quoting?

>>79412397
You.

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>>79412351
Ha. slayed.

all these white drumpkins can do is HATE

>>79412351
The high taxes are a problem, the muslims may not be evil but an overwhelming percentage of them are on welfare, and their drain on the state budget means that European pensions and benefits are in danger.

You know, unless you just raise taxes even higher.

>>79412375
I see this type of response on pol all the time. Someone almost always replies to a valid opinion in the form of a meme or greentext. It's like they don't know how to refute or they don't want to take the time to let their almonds activate.

>>79412424
>The high taxes are a problem

You know the income tax in the US during your beloved 1950s went as high as 90%? Really makes you think...

>>79412448
You had no argument, you just strawmanned and said "RNC lol".

This is why Trump won. :)

>>79412418

No you're not

>>79411094
No country is number one at everything. Every faggot that post this on facebook thinks they're enlightened somehow.
Its like the US maybe be 23rd, 66th and 34th in A, b, c, but France is 3rd, 98th, and 122nd in the same thing.

>>79412492
>you just strawmanned

lol learn words before you use them

it won't be as embarrassing for you

>>79412468
>You know the income tax in the US during your beloved 1950s went as high as 90%?

"My beloved 1950s"? What on earth are you talking about? The 1950s were awful. We fought a bloody war in Korea, taxes were through the roof, China had fallen to commies, the blacks were on the verge of rioting, everyone thought nuclear armageddon was right around the corner....

Also, that "90%" figure is insanely misleading, because that was the tax rate for the top income bracket.

>>79410292
>has the chance to insult liberals
>says they aren't liked "because they lose"

Hack

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>>79410292

It's cringe because it's Sorkin trying to snag as wide an audience as possible by having Will say things that everyone (at least at the time) could have found some part they agreed with.

>tfw Sorkin got so butthurt they were cancelling it that the entire last season is about the death of journalism and names the Jew.

>>79411906
you need to leave your country, son.

Have you even got out of your city once ?

>>79412534
>snarky insults instead of arguments

This is also why Trump won. :)

>>79412492
They also assume every dissenting response is the same person too I've noticed.

I'm not that guy, but he's touching on the fact your post perfectly reflects a dystopian vision of the world that people that actually go outside realize isn't true. Maybe you became an adult in the 2010s, but compared to 20 years ago you'd be saying the world was apocalyptic with genocides in Europe and Africa, famine in Asia, race riots, federal raids, and worse crime in America, and bombings across England.

>>79412267
It's not meant to be a perfect match to the real world. There are idiots that think that he was actually quoting everything as a perfect fact, but the only bad point of the speech is the leading the world in 3 categories, which doesn't make sense in the ficitonal universe of the show. The rest could perfectly match the show, and is close to some of the issues that do exist in the U.S. It still is a meaningful spirit to have with regards to wanting the U.S. to be better than it is and accepting its major shortcomings.

>>79412580
You're right, Muslims are just like us. #refugeeswelcome

>>79412581
>but the only bad point of the speech is the leading the world in 3 categories, which doesn't make sense in the ficitonal universe of the show. The rest could perfectly match the show

Not really. If the US was really "22nd in science", that means that there was some massive economic decline in the country. How else do you go from #1 in science publishing, nobel prizes, and the number of top research universities all the way down to #22? And it was 178th-worst in infant mortality (as he was seemingly implying) then it would literally be a Syria-tier warzone.

>It still is a meaningful spirit to have with regards to wanting the U.S. to be better than it is and accepting its major shortcomings.

Yeah, the intentions are fine, but why lie? He could make the same point while telling the truth.

>>79412610
You've definitely never met a muslim. I know this. Go back to your room Adam, mommy's heating up the tendies in the microwave and she even got some crimson sauce (its your favorite name for ketchup) right on the side.

>>79410292
liberals fantasize about stereotypical cartoon character republicans ask simplistic questions so they can smugly recite monologues they have practiced fort years,

Same writer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1-ip47WYWc

>>79411064
chuckled

>>79410292
america was never the greatest county in the world

I don't know why you idiots think you are so special.

Remember that show made where they took the fat kid to the bahamas and he was dancing yeah that.

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>>79410292
>world's greatest artists
>that sentimental piano in the background

>>79412697
nationalist propaganda

>>79412545
>for the top income bracket.

Your spiritual kings

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>>79412644
Just like us...

>>79411906
We are currently at the most peaceful period in recorded human history.
>>79412263
I have (Iraq), and guy is fearmongering like no other. To compare any of these western nations with active (actual) conflict zones is hyperbole at best.

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QUICK: name ONE thing america is number one in other than being in debt, fat and retarded

>>79412644
Not him, but assuming that anon is European, then he has every reason to be concerned about muslim refugees. In germany, for example, 3/4 of the refugees who arrived in 2015 are men under the age of 35 and 80% of them have no formal qualifications whatsoever. Most, of course, don't speak German either. That's a serious problem.

https://www.rt.com/news/320044-asylum-seekers-germany-education/

https://www.rt.com/news/343753-germany-refugees-males-statistics/

I know rt isn't the best source, but they're directly citing a report by Germany's own Federal Employment Agency.

Also, 26% of all welfare recipients in the country are immigrants, despite the fact that they make up just 2.5% of the national population.

http://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article157422408/Jeder-vierte-Hartz-IV-Empfaenger-ist-Migrant.html

Whether you think Muslims are evil invaders or helpless refugees, either way, they're putting a massive strain on the welfare state of Germany. And it's hard to see how that's going to be corrected any time soon, given how difficult the assimilation process has traditionally been for muslim immigrants to Germany (just look at the Turks).

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>hurr left view bad right view good hoo-rah /pol/

>>79412781
Fuck off. You're a racist.

>>79412790
This is why Trump won. :)

>>79412767
getting shot by toddlers

>>79412641
I did the study on this, what happens is that the "intelligence" of each country is calculated by a internationally accepted standardized test. In the US, the test gets given to each state, and each state randomly gives out the test to districts. When you look at the scores of the tests for NJ, NY, MA, CT, the scores are really high, usually the highest in the world. When you look at the scores of states like Hawaii, Alaska and Utah, the scores are ass. Idk if I explained well I haven't had much sleep.

>>79412580
>>79412351
sophistry

>>79412697
>I don't know why you idiots think you are so special.

Wealthiest country in the world, most powerful country in the world, most influential country in the world (politically and culturally). "America is da best!" is just silly, but it does have at least some basis in reality.

>>79412767
Nobel prizes, defense spending, peer-reviewed science publishing, olympic gold medals, contributions to the UN, oil production, number of immigrants, cultural influence (although that's obviously hard to measure)

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>It's a shame that he is actually right about most of what he said. America has gone from the superpower in every category in the world, whether it's technological, agricultural, industrial, military, everything, into a country that is completely complacent and backwards. What's even scarier is that all of this is being done intentionally and because the media isn't doing their job, the American people are being deceived. Look up Obama's and Hillary's mentor Saul Alinsky. Follow the paper trail of George Soros. Look at how America is negating all moral values slowly but surely. Even if you don't believe in God, the ten commandments are a stronghold in keeping a country stable. You know why Rome collapsed? Morals were negated in every category of life. Research the facts and see for yourself, we Americans need to wakeup, there is something very wrong going on right under our noses.

>>79412767
highest GDP, most top 10 universities, most nobel prizes, most olympic gold medals every year

we win at everything

>>79410292
>japan has freedom
you can't even show a penis on home media, lel

>>79412697
Then why do you know even our obscure politicians and no one even knows who your leader is

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>>79412837
>Nobel prizes

>>79412767
entertaining elections and meme politicians

>when a country thats not even in the top 2 GDP's tries to talk to you


hahahahaha

>>79412844
>we win
What medal did you win ?

>>79412767
Highest natural life expectancy
Highest survival rates for most diseases

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>>79412644
I know, right? Who doesn't want this to happen?

>>79412831
Makes sense. So the US is 22nd when it comes to children's standardized test scores? Not good, but hardly the same as "the US is 22nd in science".

>>79412805
Can you explain how?

>>79412895
the one your country didnt win

stay mad europoors you are all ants beneath the great American boot

>>79412897
>Highest natural life expectancy
This is wrong

>>79412823
kek

>>79412767
Winning World Wars
Olympic Medals
Capitalism
Music Industry
Movie Industry

>>79412840
>HWNDU

Be warned

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NeDsyjdLVA

>This goes on while /sg/ co-ordinates air strikes on Jihadists.

>>79412897
>Highest natural life expectancy

Pretty sure that's Japan.

>>79412823
I think Syria has us beat there.

>>79412904

Here in Australia there's a few conservative commentators who applaud that kind of behaviour

>>79412767
least white western country

>>79412781
you seem far more level-headed than that other anon. yeah, immigration mostly from Syria and other conflict zones is a valid concern. it's a difficult one to solve without the UN chipping in. most will opt to stay after the wars, so how will that leave the economy? is there a work for welfare plan? something absolutely has to be done, all right or left rhetoric aside.

>>79412904
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDe9msExUK8

>>79412948
That's Brazil.

>>79412946
name 'em

>>79412920
>Winning World Wars
kek
>>79412920
>Olympic Medals
Irrelevant
>>79412920
>Capitalism
Number one in capitalism ? What is this even
>>79412920
>Music Industry
>Movie Industry
That's not india

>>79412267
>The US leads the world in peer-reviewed science publishing and nobel prizes.
Because of people from other countries here on H1B visas.

>>79412984

Larry Pickering

>>79410292
that moment is up there.

So is this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD52OlkKfNs

>surprise Sorkin is a Jew

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>>79411906
>tax boogeyman

>>79411380
>a jew hates the country he lives in

color me shocked.

Sorkin does the same crap in literally every show.

Liberal opinion is ranted at by confident good looking character

Character representing conservatism is dumbfounded at getting BTFO by FACTS AND REASon.

That dude is a hack and cringey as fuck

>>79412920
>turning art into a form of industry
you know that's why we have capeshit and movies starring literal shit

>>79411094
America is also #1 in GDP, the most used statistic for measuring economic prosperity. and that whole horse shit about waging war on poor people now instead of poverty is a complete invention. The welfare state has only increased with the democrats and things like affirmative action and employment equity are irrefutably unfairly advantaging the poor. Its just quick bullshit dialogue for people who want to think they are smart without contemplating anything that is actually coming out of his mouth.

They could've gone another route about the history of american imperialism or their reputation in the international community or our """""""democracy"""""""" promotion or some shit that could've actually held some merit. Not quite sure why the decided to tell lies instead

>>79412952
>so how will that leave the economy?

Nobody knows for sure. IMO it's a disaster waiting to happen. You have so many unskilled young men, who don't speak German, will struggle to find work, and who generally have no respect for western culture or values (if the polls can be trusted). The ones who are married are having lots of children, too, so the ghettos will expand dramatically and you'll have even more people who struggle to find their place in the economy and in society.

>is there a work for welfare plan?

Germany is planning a 5-year unemployment benefits plan for refugees.

https://www.ft.com/content/25bec884-0d52-11e6-9cd4-2be898308be3

All of the numbers he rattles off are accurate within a position or two for 2010 according to the CIA Factbook.
The infant mortality rank goes to 222. It's an odd bay to explain, but he's speaking at a college. We're 44th, essentially.

>>79413005
That's certainly part of it.

>>79412952
One of the real problems though is that the Syrian Civil War is being used as a front for massive immigration from countries not currently at war. 22% of the migrants that were tallied in Calais were from Eritrea, a country that is simply poor. Well when is Eritrea going to no longer be an impoverished nation, allowing for these people to return? The answer is of course "never" and that same story is true for hundreds of thousands, if not millions of current migrants to the EU who come from North Africa rather than Syria. The VAST majority of migrants coming by boat over the Mediterranean are North African, not Syrian. They are Algerian, Libyan, Moroccan, Egyptian, Eritrean and Somalian predominantly, and none of those countries are going to have favorable political situations for the foreseeable future, and with the exception of Libya NONE of them are due to Western intervention or warfare.

Are we supposed to just take all of them? Or are we just going to continue to pretend that "we created their problems so we need to take them in"?

>>79413005
Your point is...?

>>79413072
>All of the numbers he rattles off are accurate within a position or two for 2010 according to the CIA Factbook.

Really? So "22nd in science"? How about the one where he says that 25 of the next 26 top military spenders (includes Russia, China, and Iran) are allies? Or "we lead the world in only 3 categories"?

Those are all incredibly inaccurate.

>>79413008
Good taste anon, though he's gone a little insane in his old age. Do you read Tim Blair?

>>79413005
Even if you just count American born Nobel Prize winners the US still leads the world.

>>79413099
My point is that your "point" is moot considering that all those peer-reviewed papers are mostly from non-American citizens.

Fuck off /pol/ America was never great and China will take over America soon and there's nothing you can do about it

>>79413146
Can you prove that?

>>79412767
Consumption
We stop buying and the entire world economy tanks.

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>>79412721
are you talking shit about early xx century american artists?
I'll slap your shit, son

>>79413086
I'm going to comment on the rest of what you said because I largely agree with you but Eritrea is a lot worse than 'simply poor.' Their military is supported by unpaid indefinite conscription and saying 'The president is mean' is grounds for execution. Italy tried to cram a bunch of tribes that hate each other but generally avoided each other into one country decades ago and it just never got less shitty.

>>79413168
I thought I didn't have to if you didn't prove everything you said eariler

>>79413186
No wonder you are so fat

>>79413126

I don't LIKE Larry Pickering, I think he's detestable.

>>79413161
They have already surpassed them economically, but China's wage gap is pretty awful and the vast majority are 70hour/week miserable drones stuffed chock full into smoggy urban wastelands. I don't think its logical to claim China is a more desirable country to live in unless youre a millionaire

>>79413005
That literally supports his point

>>79413146
The US publishes more than three times as many peer-reviewed papers than the country with the second-most, Japan. Even if literally half of them are written by foreigners, the US would still lead the world in that category.

>>79413213
Anything I wrote earlier could be proved with about 5 seconds on google. But figuring out the exact number of peer-reviewed science papers written by people on H1B visas isn't so easy to find, so if you're going to make this claim it would be nice if you could provide proof.

>>79413245
>They have already surpassed them economically

The US GDP is $18 trillion, the Chinese GDP is $11 trillion. By what metric have the Chinese surpassed the Americans economically? Is this one of those "alternative facts" the American president likes to use?

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>americans just keep winning
>europe is overrun with terrorists
send help

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>>79413161
these ironic leftist posters are the cancer killing this board

Why are dissecting a speech clearly meant to say 'unquestioning patriotism and jingoism are bad?'

>>79413233
You realise he had some of the most in depth and comprehensive coverage of the Rudd/Gillard spill? He called it months out. Guy is a journalistic legend and was once incredibly well connected. One of the few to openly call out the gov on its shenanigans.

Who do you read for balanced and researched opinions?

>>79413051
>>79413086
yeah, that's tough. it will probably be frowned upon, but is there any talk as to deporting immigrants to countries where they might integrate better? might have to take a hit on trade deals or something, but it's better than changing the entire demographic of a country, i'd say.

btw, i'm assuming both of you are Germans or have interests or family there?

>>79413293
Because the video is literally titled "the most honest three minutes in television history", but it's full of blatant lies. Also, The Newsroom and Sorkin shows in general are praised for being "smart", but it's clearly just as bullshit-filled as any other show.

>>79413212
And it likely never will, even if Italy is the cause of their problems, and I think you probably make very legitimate arguments in favor of that case, that doesn't mean we have to "punish" Italy for it by forcing them to take in migrants that a country like Italy especially cannot afford at the moment.

>>79411335
/pol/ IS fun

>>79413312
>Who do you read for balanced and researched opinions?

Certainly not anyone in the Q society

>scene where he does some rant about the Tea Party being "America's Taliban"
>some cringey melodramatic scene with Coldplay playing that has fictional characters reacting to an actual shooting of a senator that happened in real life
What was he thinking?

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>>79413277
World Bank Data

>>79413322
>it will probably be frowned upon, but is there any talk as to deporting immigrants to countries where they might integrate better?

They tried sending several thousand refugees to Poland. You know what happened? The refugees all ran right back to Germany, because the welfare benefits are better there.

But as for countries where they might integrate better....that could only be a country in the middle east. Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and Qatar are refusing to take them. As far as I know, they have all taken a combined grand total of.....0 refugees.

>btw, i'm assuming both of you are Germans or have interests or family there?

No, just an American who studies politics.

>>79413322
I'm American, I have German blood in my veins but my interest is mostly due to an interest in geopolitics.

The best thing we can do for migrants is to construct working migrant camps close to the Syrian border. It costs Western nations between $45,000-$75,000 per year per refugee to bring them into their borders and provide them with citizenship. It costs roughly $2,500 per refugee per year to house them in a refugee camp, so even if we construct long-term refugee camps with all the bells and whistles it will cost far less than bringing them into Western nations on a more or less permanent basis.

>>79413377
the latter was one of the best parts of the show. gave me all sorts of feelings. yeah, it's a Sorkin trope, but still genuine in delivery. some say melodramatic, i say hit rewind.

>>79413389
Purchasing power parity is worthless for comparing national economies, because it's based on a basket of product prices in each country and not on exchange rates (which is how real-world economic deals between countries work). To compare nations, you have to use nominal.

And by nominal GDP, the US economy is far larger than China's.

>>79413374
: (

I just wanted to discuss aus news.

>>79413277
>>79413389
My mistake, thats PPP. US has higher outright.

>>79413439

I don't really watch the news except media watch

>>79413393
>Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and Qatar are refusing to take them
that's what i figured. there must me some way multilateral way to accomplish this b/c it really is an absurd situation. i guess sending some to Poland was an attempt to ease the financial burden but was it realistic in anyone's eyes?

>>79413404
>working migrant camps close to the Syrian border
seems like a viable option.

thanks for the info, both of you. i'm off to bed now. nice chatting with two level headed blokes. see, folks, it doesn't always have to resort to namecalling.

>>79413423
yeah i didnt notice at first, and also US is miles ahead in GDP/capita, a superior representation of prosperity imo. So basically the speech in OP's post is 100% bs instead of 90% like i thought

>>79413050
>The welfare state has only increased with the democrats and things like affirmative action and employment equity are irrefutably unfairly advantaging the poor.

what? are you actually implying it's more advantageous to be poor than to be rich or middle class? sure, people can abuse benefits but being poor is one of the #1 predictors for having a shit quality of life.

>>79413516
right. But the speech implied that the USA is "waging a war on the poor." Poor people's lack of upward mobility often as a result of their own poor money managing skills is not the powers that be 'waging a war.' That claim is a pure fabrication

In depth, autismal analysis why this is pure shit from a writing standpoint:

>Jennifer Johnson: Can you say why America is the greatest country in the world?

>Sharon: Diversity and opportunity.

>Moderator: Lewis?

>Lewis: Freedom and freedom... so let's keep it that way.

>*crowd claps*

what kind of reaction is this? would any crowd -- outside of a republican convention -- actually clap for a line like this? actually i'm not sure RNC members are this stupid either.

>Moderator: Will?

(note that the video above actually truncated this original convo)

>Will McAvoy: Well, Lewis and Sharon said it. Diversity and opportunity and freedom and freedom.

>Moderator: I'm not letting you go back to the airport without answering the question.

>Will McAvoy: Well, our Constitution is a masterpiece. James Madison was a genius. The Declaration of Independence is, for me, the single greatest piece of American writing...

>[Professor keeps staring]

>Will McAvoy: You don't look satisfied.

>Moderator: One's a set of laws and the other's a declaration of war. I want a human moment from you... what about the people? Why is America...

why does this matter? "One's a set of laws and the other's a declaration of war." what does that have to do with anything? that's a direct answer to the question. that's pretty human. those are human achievements.

>Will McAvoy: It's not the greatest country in the world, professor. That's my answer.

false shock from the crowd, ESPECIALLY if it's moderate or liberal leaning. audible gasps. ridiculous.

>>79413611
>Moderator: You're saying...

why is the moderator shook? he's a moderator and it's a common sentiment.

>Will McAvoy: Yes.

>Moderator: Let's talk about...

shut it down, the goyim know! this reaction makes no sense.

>Will McAvoy: Fine.

[Turns to Sharon]

>Will McAvoy: Sharon, the NEA is a loser. Yeah, it accounts for a penny out of our paycheck, but he

>[gestures to Lewis]

>Will McAvoy: gets to hit you with it anytime he wants. It doesn't cost money, it costs votes. It costs airtime and column inches. You know why people don't like liberals? Cause they lose. If liberals are so fucking smart, how come they lose so god damn always?

now we're kicking up the stupidity. the first three sentences of this rant are entirely concocted to make the speaker "look knowledgable" while everyone in the room gapes their mouths and stares. it's political psychobabble. liberals lose? not around when this was made, they didn't.

Sharon: Hey!

>Will McAvoy: [Turns to Louis] And with a straight face, you're gonna tell students that America is so star-spangled awesome that we're the only ones in the world who have freedom? Canada has freedom. Japan has freedom. The UK. France. Italy. Germany. Spain. Australia... Belgium! has freedom... 207 sovereign states in the world, like 180 of 'em have freedom.

and all those "free" countries dont have the right to free speech, only "free" speech.

>Moderator: Alright...

>Will McAvoy: [Looks at Jenny] And, yeah, you... sorority girl.

this is so bad. this insult is thrown in there for the retards at home to clap their hands at, but this girl has done nothing at all to him. just makes him look like a loon shaking his fist at a cloud. this ire is totally unearned.

>>79413611
>>79413640
We all know it's shit. You're just wasting your breath-er, hands.

>>79413640
>Just in case you accidentally wander into a voting booth one day, there are some things you should know. One of them is: There is absolutely no evidence to support the statement that we're the greatest country in the world. We're 7th in literacy, 27th in math, 22nd in science, 49th in life expectancy, 178th in infant mortality, 3rd in median household income, number 4 in labor force and number 4 in exports.

another anon already tackled this.

>We lead the world in only three categories: number of incarcerated citizens per capita, number of adults who believe angels are real and defense spending - where we spend more than the next 26 countries combined, 25 of whom are allies.

another anon already tackled this. fucking hell.

>Now, none of this is the fault of a 20-year-old college student, but you, nonetheless, are without a doubt a member of the worst period generation period ever period,

a boomer saying this? el justo jajaja

>so when you ask what makes us the greatest country in the world, I don't know what the FUCK you're talking about!... Yosemite?

>[Stunned silence]

aha that's in the script.

>Will McAvoy: ... It sure used to be. We stood up for what was right. We fought for moral reasons. blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblah blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblah blahblahblahblahblahblahblah

the worst part about this schlocky overly-sentimental speech is "we didn't scare so easy", where he says it with the most maudlin and unearned delivery possible.

>>79413573
oh well fair enough but i don't think just saying 'well it's their own fault' paints a complete picture. even people born into affluence have a hard time managing their money. there should be mandatory money managing courses in high school or something.

Most of the places he listed are losing their freedom to Shariah law.

ITT: Butthurt americlaps

>>79412920
>music industry
>movie industry

How can someone be so naive like this

>>79413611
>>79413640
>>79413672
Fun rundown, anon. The saccharine speech at the end always felt completely off. You think Sorkin might have matured enough as a writer to avoid these kind of manuafactured, self-congratulatory moments, but I can't deny that he hit all the right notes to make it go viral and promote his show. Pretty disgusting. Appeals to the lowest denominator of the cultural zeitgeist charading itself as Moses bringing down God's truth to the unenlightened.

>>79412697
>>79412837
Most of these things just means biggest in the west, but it is obviously one of the candidates for the best country in the world, whatever that means.

>>79412937
Good lord Brittany is thick.

>>79414022
>manuafactured, self-congratulatory

yeah, seriously. now a much better sorkin scene:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOMUe26X3mo

>>79411392
>But I thought she was. It just killed me.
That's what social media does, not only with women. I had to stop adding people I really like to FB because I would just wind up with about 3 real life friends.

>>79410292
that whole show was so stupidly american

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>>79410292
what about the one when Osama dies and they do that bit about the media being a part of it

the secondhand embarrassment alone made it unforgettable

>>79413640
That part about free speech isn't really accurate.

>>79414137
>fuck-you flip-flops
God damn, Sorkin at the top of his game. He wasn't even on coke.

>>79413146
>come to america
>become/already are scientist
>instead of going back to your country you stay here and do science
makes you think

>>79414416
what's wrong with it? in murrica you can only go to be pulled aside by the govt. for inciting immediate (not future) violence or panic or targeting a person for violence or death (ie, "I'm going to kill X person" and "someone should kill X person" but not "what if someone killed X person")

the police will interview you for those because they show intent to commit a crime.

it's insane how many euros think in murica you can go to jail for writing a "bad thought" on twitter or somesuch, which has never, ever happened. (not that i'm saying you're a euro)

>Some retard going on some "Hurr I'm a centrist, so above it all, also America sucks & I hate it here"

This is especially stupid because it was cultural marxists like him who created all the problems he complains about

No shit, people don't care about their neighbors when they don't hear any fucking english spoken out loud.

>>79412952
>something absolutely has to be done, all right or left rhetoric aside.
You don't seem to understand, the who problem is created by the left
They started the civil war in Syria, they backed the rebels/terrorists
They ORGANIZED & PAID people smugglers to bring these people here(ongoing thing btw)
They advertise to these migrants in their home countries to come to europe to get free shit

The left in the west has adopted Jewish Globalist values and seek to destroy the west

>>79410292
lol leftys and righties in this thread are both equally triggered by this for opposite reasons. Stop linking politics to your sense of self. None of you are smart, none of you have any actual political insight to offer, none of you matter. Just get off the politics shit and post fedora moments jesus christ.

WELCOME TO THE WORST THREAD ON /TV/

>>79413009
>>79412652
Holy shit he included that letter to Dr Laura, kek

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/drlaura.asp

>>79414628
lmao hilarious the left boogieman strikes again eeeeee

I was with him until he started spouting nostalgia goggles crap. It's as if he thinks the general US population was ever politically competent but all of a sudden stopped at a turn of a generation.

>>79414778
What a coincidence that stuff got worse as the US went from 90% white, with negros under control, to 50% white with browns running riot

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>>79414673
>says the centralist

>>79410292
dialogue was great but the performance and directing were terrible, it was so hackneyed and full of purposeful pregnant pauses, great content cringey delivery

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>tfw every time this happens

>>79414898
dialogue was terrible cringy garbage
irl they would have screamed at him rather than let him rant

>>79414778
>We didn't beat our chest
>Boomers hired a guy with a plastic smile and a mistress on his hip to wage the greatest dick waving contest in history; To see who could fly to a worthless rock in space first

>>79410292
truthbombs trigger the neckbeards

>>79414502
Making science in a country with no money is an uphill battle, shit funding, shit equipment and jorunals are more likely to reject you based on your country/institution alone. First world countries are easy mode for scientists

>>79414948
It was a bunch of college kids

>>79415060
To be fair, if you aren't a billionaire there isn't much point in wanting to do anything.

>>79415168
>freedom

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>>79412267

also comparing US vs. Russian defence spending is a flawed metric that doesn't account for russia's massive stash of soviet legacy equipment

russia is too poor to ever replace the Backfire C but they still maintain 3? regiments of Backfires(a threat that greatly justifies the much bigger cost of maintaining carrier battle groups)

>>79415263
those planes look swole

>>79413199
Shut the fuck up, pleb.

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/pol/ is 99% semitic.

>>79412550
Last season really triggered libcucks and sjws. Funny how both pol And sjw hate sorkin equally. Proof he Must be doing Something right

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>>79415291

basically

why do you think the F-14 is such a big "high test" plane? so it can loft enough long range Phoenix missiles to shoot down multiple Backfires

>>79415442
Shut up, bad goy

>>79412267

Cuba 5.8
European Union 5.7
Italy 5.5
Isle of Man 5.3
Taiwan 5.3
San Marino 5.3
Greece 5.1
Ireland 5.0
Canada 5.0
Wallis and Futuna 5.0
Monacco 5.0
New Zealand 4.9
United Kingdom 4.8
Gibraltar 4.8
Portugal 4.7
Australia 4.7
Jersey 4.7
Netherlands 4.7
Luxemborg 4.5
Guernsey 4.4
Belgium 4.4
Austria 4.4
Denmark 4.3
Korea, South 4.2
Liechtenstein 4.2
Slovenia 4.2
Israel 4.2
Spain 4.2
Switzerland 4.2
Germany 3.9
Czech Republic 3.8
Adorra 3.7
Malta 3.7
Norway 3.5
Anguilla 3.5
Finland 3.4
France 3.3
Iceland 3.2
Macau 3.2
Hong Kong 2.9
Japan 2.8
Sweden 2.7
Bermuda 2.4
Singapore

> All better then the US

>>79415669
>then

>>79413328
Sorkins characters often make mistakes and are depicted as flawed all the time. There's an entire season long arc in the newsroom where the team fucks up a story. It's also a running gag that the characters are arrogant and annoying. Yeah he's a leftist but he also frequently attacks sjws Bullshit, feminists hate him, just like he defends reasonable rightism and only attacks bible integrists. The character in op is supposed to be a moderate Republican who just hates what the party has become but still defends its noble core values.

>>79411094
It's not jingoistic horseshit that low IQ conservatives can jerk off to.

>>79413043
Fine, but I still blame the rest of the world for the transformers franchise being so successful

>>79410292
>most fedora
It triggered a lot of retards, but nothing more than that.

>>79415442
>pestposting IRL

/myguy/ also link to vid please

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>germany has freedom
>canada has freedom
>both have hate speech laws

Apex kek. This sense of being somehow 'enlightened' by being a masochistic American is really plaguing these shows.

>>79412093
Escanaba haunts him more.

why were americans so triggered by this scene

>>79416066
>Implying the U.S. doesn't

You have the freedom to suffer the consequences of your opinions.

>>79412267
Infant mortality is actually a bullshit stat. A lot of countries don't count babies under 6 months. If the kid is under 6 months is a failed pregnancy or some shit.

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>>79416122
What did he mean by this?

>>79416106
They are extremely touchy lately.

They can handle zero amount of critisism rigth now.

Probably because they voted for a merchant.

http://www.filmsite.org/wavfiles/sevenyearitch.wav

>2017 not taking the nudity pill.

That was the cheesiest thing I've ever seen

>>79416005

Transformers is kino, shut your whore mouth before I shut it for you

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>>79416106
Because Americans are brainwashed at birth to believe that our country is #1 at literally everything in the world (notice how the president is always referred to as 'leader of the free world')
Patriotism is a disease in this country.
Instead of choosing to be proud of where you live, you're shamed and pressured and indoctrinated into it.

One question: does the qt the young hotshot reporter dates before dumping her for Moonface return at any point after the first season?

>>79416303
It's an understandable thought given that they're the first potence, and also a necesary one to mantain their imperialistic policy

>>79416253
You life is the cheesiest thing I've ever seen.

>>79410292

This just proves how good of an actor Jeff Daniels is. Underated

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>>79410292
>>79413009
Sorky loves """""smart""""" guys ripping into women. It really give insight in to how unbearable he must be as a person.

>>79413611
I like how the writer dumbs everyone down and has the audience's reaction exaggerated in order to color Will's banalities as insightful and brave.
I like the naive optimism of sorority girl. If I want scepticism I can find it here in Europe.

Fucking hacks

>>79410292

Why's he so mad?

>>79416562
Just to stir the pot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut8C_IOqEtU

>>79416122
wew

>make an entire show about how past events should have been handled if only people were as smart and liberal as you
why do people like this hack?

>>79418131
This is why the show is insufferable. It's Sorkin looking at recent events and saying "Here's how I would have handled it" - thanks Mr. 20/20 Hindsight

pol is literally the worst thing to have happened to 4chan

its a containment board that contains nothing

>>79418290
>anyone that disagrees with me is pol

>>79418313

Whether or not you post on pol is irrelevant.

What is for certain, is that the world would be a better place if you chugged drano until you expired.

>>79418290
*tips*

>>79411335
>Newsroom and the west wing were supposed to show us what we could be instead of what we are.

But the world that they show is a horrible nightmare? I'd gladly take what we got over that garbage.

>>79412205
>his only great movie

You forgot Gettysburg.

>>79411094
>glorifying the loss of a journalist's objectivity in an emotional moment as if it's a good thing
That's why.

>>79412337
>unless you're using "greatest" to mean "most powerful" or "richest".

What other metric would you use?

>>79418290

they should never have brought it back

they took it down originally because it turned into stormfront and then everything was fine

>>79411335
>what we could be

no. it makes the left's fundamental problem: it ignores human nature.

people who worship the state think that we can have angels running the state, making the world better.

not only do we not have angels, but the incentives built into government guarantee that the most corrupt will fight hardest to seize control.

even if you believe that Bernie Sanders has good intentions, you saw how the system was rigged to favor the woman who works for Wall Street and the MIlitary Industrial Complex. Bernie hit the invisible wall that prevents honest people from using government for good.

>>79410292
>men

I am
literally shaking...

>>79414673
>None of you are smart, none of you have any actual political insight to offer, none of you matter.

That is some projecting anon, everything alright with the folks?

>>79418473
This. Government is a necessary evil at absolute best. People with power over others will abuse it.

>>79415130
Exactly. They would have burned down the campus to shut him up like they do with Milo.

>>79418463
>they took it down originally because it turned into stormfront and then everything was fine
Actually they spilled across the board even more than before.

>implying /pol/ is this uniform
What you're reacting to is people that share views with stereotypical /pol/ posters. /pol/ itself is much more diverse than this. Everything from nazis to classical liberals to commies. As an anonymous site it natural tends to attract extremists.

>>79416013
>>79415027
Calm down Sorkin. Everyone already recognizes your work as shit and whining about it wont change a thing.

>>79415130
>>79418561
As long as he's critical of the US they'd have applauded.

>>79418561
difference between this guy an milo is that hes trying to educate people, not troll them

>>79412267
>How is he measuring this?

Overall education. Yes, our colleges are the best in the world. But our K-12 children are borderline retarded compared to other countries.

BTW, as of last year we're 24th in literacy.

As in, there are 23 other countries who have a higher percentage of people WHO CAN FUCKING READ.

>That's a good thing, if you're #1 it means you have the highest level of infant mortality.

All infant mortality statistics have the #1 slot meaning "lowest amount of baby death per 1000 births". But I guess expecting you to read a chart is too much.


>we lead the world in only 3 categories

Major categories, yeah. Facts hurt tho huh?

>And it's more than the next 10 combined, not the next 26

That's still a fuckton of defense spending, you incredible retard.

>>79413611
>"the other's a declaration of war."
>mfw americans are litterally so estranged from their own history that they think the American revolutionnary war started with the declaration of independence
CANNOT FABRICATE THIS

>>79410292
Sorority girl was cute

>>79413611
>>79413640
>Says America sucks
>college students don't cheer
Also I like how the whole scene is a lowkey endorsement of Trump's campaign slogan

>>79418612
>Overall education. Yes, our colleges are the best in the world. But our K-12 children are borderline retarded compared to other countries.
Our colleges are going downhill too since they've started having to do high school's jobs and the student loan bubble growing ever bigger.

>BTW, as of last year we're 24th in literacy.

>As in, there are 23 other countries who have a higher percentage of people WHO CAN FUCKING READ.
Gotta stop letting in the retards. Although a lot of EU countries are doing that too now, so I guess we can all start plummeting together.

>That's still a fuckton of defense spending, you incredible retard.

>implying that's bad
We could probably cut it a ton with no loss of effectiveness though. Monopolistic defense companies like Raytheon and Lockheed get ridiculous contracts thanks to government corruption.

>>79411906
>>79412239
>>79412263
>>79412351
>>79412562
wow, spot on post and nothing but butt hurt liberals who can't accept that their countries are going to shit pretending they're 'worldly and travelled'. pure denial. europe is turning into a literal shit hole (UK where I'm from) literally has the government breathing down your neck 24/7 while taking all your money. most young people can't even move out until they're 30 because there's no fucking houses left and property is being bought up by internationals. oh and jobs are decreasing too but lets keep letting in thousands of undocumented men pretending to be children so they can take welfare. and the worst part? you're not alowed to complain about any of this publicly and you can literally be fined and arrested for criticising a certain 'religion of peace'. btw the town next to mine is a literal muslim only shithole and they hate native english. but sure i'm just a lying 'right winger' even though I LITERALLY lost my job to cheap foreign labour. you will never understand the hatred I feel for people like you. I hope you experience 'cultural enrichment' first hand.

>>79418917
>and the worst part? you're not alowed to complain about any of this publicly and you can literally be fined and arrested for criticising a certain 'religion of peace'
If there's one social issue the US is better than any country in the world on, it's free speech.

I wonder what country he does consider the greatest in the world. Switzerland?

>>79413050
Too much and for too long, we seemed to have surrendered personal excellence and community values in the mere accumulation of material things. Our Gross National Product, now, is over $800 billion dollars a year, but that Gross National Product - if we judge the United States of America by that - that Gross National Product counts air pollution and cigarette advertising, and ambulances to clear our highways of carnage.

It counts special locks for our doors and the jails for the people who break them. It counts the destruction of the redwood and the loss of our natural wonder in chaotic sprawl.

It counts napalm and counts nuclear warheads and armored cars for the police to fight the riots in our cities. It counts Whitman's rifle and Speck's knife, and the television programs which glorify violence in order to sell toys to our children.

>>79412741
What the flying fuck? That's scary as hell, where's that from?

>>79419192
Yet the gross national product does not allow for the health of our children, the quality of their education or the joy of their play. It does not include the beauty of our poetry or the strength of our marriages, the intelligence of our public debate or the integrity of our public officials.

It measures neither our wit nor our courage, neither our wisdom nor our learning, neither our compassion nor our devotion to our country, it measures everything in short, except that which makes life worthwhile.

And it can tell us everything about America except why we are proud that we are Americans.

>>79410292
Every generation looked like shit at one point. Personally I would say the 70's-80's generation was the scummiest so far, but we don't remember the shit. We keep the diamonds and throw away the ash. Stupid people die young, the intelligent grow old and they instruct the new youth to not be as stupid as their own youth.

This generation is much smarter than its predecessors, especially the geniuses, but we are fooled by the internet - the source of that intelligence. The internet gave us instantaneous access to every ounce of information our civilization had to offer, but it also gave humanity instant access to our stupidity. It highlights our dimwits on a level far beyond anything before. America just had the privilege of being the first to jump in the pond, and since then it has been the center of attention.

Young people are dumb. Millennials and America are very normal in that sense, not an exception. The geniuses will stand out from the crowd and be celebrated as we move on to the next generation. The SJWs, anti-SJWs, anti-anti-SJWs, etc; they are the stupidity that will fade with the passing of time.

>>79418424
Well, how would you define richest country?
I think GDP per capita is the best indicator, and united states is #14 on GDP per Capita

>>79418933
this is THE most important thing you have. don't give them an inch. don't ever let anyone take it from you.

t.cucked 1984 citizen

>>79418904
The funny thing is, Sorkin could probably write Trump and make him a hero and likable to liberals.

>We have killers too
>We aren't innocent
>MAGA
>We will not bow to the false song of globalism
>Saying Low energy to the biggest elitist in the room
>Underdog vs. corporate funded crone

Trump is like the wrong man with the right ideas.

>>79419192
>Too much and for too long, we seemed to have surrendered personal excellence and community values in the mere accumulation of material things.
That's called an economy.

>countering slave morality with slave morality

>>79419564
If you and I both raise our kid, that contributes 0$ to GDP
If I pay you to raise my kid, and you pay me to raise your kid, we both give each other 30k and it cancels out, that adds 60k to GDP

>Americans think their country is better than Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Netherlands, Switzerland, Austria or Germany

>>79419604
The magic of econ 101 and the Dunning-Kruger effect.

But yes, GDP being the end-all be-all measure of an economy is stupid. It may be the single best metric, but using a single metric is retarded..

>>79419615
Sweden yes

see what I did there

The only thing that really matters is potential for organized violence. The USA still has by far the most military power.

>>79419627
I still think that GDP per Capita is a better measure, otherwise you just get a bias towards big countries

>>79419672
It's academic since again, measuring something as huge and complex as a national economy using one measure is a terrible idea.

>>79419627
And come on, when you cite the Dunning-Kruger effect you just sound like a jackass.

>>79410292
i fucking hate when people create television shows just to make their fantasies come true and pretend their ideologies have the most power in the universe they have created

>>79419727
I fucked your mother.

>>79419745
I don't argue with Necrophiliacs

>>79419652
Is unorganized violence really that much better?
Look at Chicago

>>79419763
I didn't say when I did it.

>>79419779
Unorganized violence is crap.

>>79411906
yet the well being and safety of everyone is the highest it's ever been

yea the world really is going to shit

>puts tin foil hat on

>>79415669
?
maybe add some metrics the next time retard

>>79419795
Global deaths are down yes but that can change and may well be due for one soon in certain areas due to immigration policies.

>things are better now so there can't be bad policies
pls

>>79412937
>pol is full of awkward, fat, skinny and nerdy looking faggots

wow what a suprise

>>79419830
bad policies aren't worse than injury and death

>>79419830
How are you suggesting workplace fatalities would go back up to previous numbers?
We will forget all of the innovations we made in the workplace?

>>79419850
Bad policies can lead to future injury or death.

>>79419872
I'm talking civil strife and increased crime due to unregulated immigration from third world countries.

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>>79411906
>Sweden is turning into Aleppo. Germany into Iraq, France into Mali.
You realize that crime and """"diversity"""" are multiple times higher in the US? How are these countries turning into Iraq? Do you even know how Iraq still looks these days thanks to your little interventionist adventure?

>>79419958
>your
Lots of you guys came too.

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>>79411906
>Sweden is turning into Aleppo. Germany into Iraq, France into Mali. UK is literally Orwell's 1984.
(You)

>>79413573
I used to be poor until I started selling drugs and guns and reading financial self help books. Thanks America.

>>79412239
You don't have to go to /pol/ to learn this. But eveything you hate is /pol/ so it must be that.

>>79412263
All of them. France is 20% african population now, big cities are littered migrants and their shantytowns. Calais is Children of Men tier shit. There was deadly migrant related crime every fucking day last summer.

Germany is fucked because of all their immigration, reichstagmembers saying white people disappearing is a good thing. Boomers moving to Hungary instead because their whole towns are filled with muslims. Merkel is probably their worst leader since Hitler and Schultz will be worse.

Dont even get me started on Sweden, i could write an essay on that joke of a country.

>>79413674
There are, they just don't pay attention. Poor people are poor because they don't value hard work and living within their means.

Look at H&R Block. The only reason that company exists is because a large number of people are too stupid to sit down and spend 5 minutes following the line-by-line instructions of a book they could get for free at the Post Office. They want their refund now, instead of waiting for 2 weeks.

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>>79421021
You mean how our worst city and possibly the worst city in Scandinavia, Malmö, is still 60x better than Detroit?

>>79418473
>a commie
>having good intentions
>honest

el o el

>>79419958
Im not fucking american and i miss Khadaffi, Sadam, Mubarak and Assad they kept their shitty dumb people in check. I think its good that blacks in the US are killing each other. Planned Parenthood is disgusting (if you'd known what it's like you'd agree), but good because it keeps the black population down.

>>79412267

Kek

Americans are so fucking dumb.

>>79421125
>The most liberal city in america with the highest african-american and somali population is the worst
Who'd a thunk.

>>79421255
This. Those guys may have been pieces of shit, but they kept the bigger pieces of shit in check.

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>>79411906
>.Sweden is turning into Aleppo

Oh boy.. Perhaps come back when your country isn't on par with a 3rd world shithole when it comes to crime and violence.

I'd rather have Aleppo than Rwanda.

>>79419795
>yet the well being and safety of everyone is the highest it's ever been

? The west is fucking dying and will be hunted down and killed in the streets, just as they have been in the mid east/africa in the last few decades.

But hey poverty and mortality rates in africa have decreased, this skyrocketting population of 80 iq subhumans totally benefits the world

>>79421317
>Who'd a thunk.
I was comparing it with the most liberal city in Sweden with the highest nigger/arab/balkan population. Who'd a thunk?

>>79419795
Lool at this sociology major and laugh.

>>79410292
I've seen worst shit, at least the last minute is kinda inspiring

>>79421430
>worst

Fucking retard

>>79411094
We are the greatest country and that's a fact, the rest of countries mentioned in the clip are 3rd world countries without even democracy.

>>79412267
>>178th in infant mortality
>That's a good thing, if you're #1 it means you have the highest level of infant mortality.
Yes... but if there are over 200 countries, then there are at least twenty countries ahead of the US, giving it the 20th lowest level of infant mortality at the very best.
This is not a good thing.

Who cares? Could be worse

>>79411094

First off, he is pretensious asshole that thinks he knows everything about everything. Like he assumes on of shit on this random blonde chick he never met before.

The facts he provides are as cherrypicked as they can be, America is first in fuckton of things, yet he only lists 3 things, all 3 of which are negative. Honestly, more cherrypicked than arguments we have in here.

And then he goes on some goddamn nostalgia trip, about how America used to be so great, even though he is like 50 at most. What the fuck does he know? Any old man could say the same thing when he was younger, looking back at his youth. The 20 year old girl will say the same shit in 30 years. Goddamn Socrates was crying how the times have changed. Every old person does that. But you are supposed to realise you aren't special for noticing this or feeling this and just keep this shit to yourself. But he goes with his sappy rant and the movie makes it sound as if he has a point. He fucking doesn't. Not one bit.

even though these "facts" are complete bullshit I kinda agree, there really isn't one country that is the best sure there are some that are better than others but nothing's perfect I guess, but who ever writes this stuff seems like the type of guy to have a man bun

>>79410292

>America is factually not the greatest country in the world.
>It is a fact that your opinion is wrong.
>I'm a liberal and therefore rational.
>Which is why I'm arguing your subjective value judgement is factually incorrect and being indignant about it.

Why people hate liberals in a nutshell.

>2:30am european time
>american primetime
Gee I wonder why 4chan went apeshit on this video.

>Americans really think their country is the greatest country in the world

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ITT we post Newsroom kino

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdWcDh1wmTE

>>79419199
Children of Men remake

>>79421645
>Every old person does that.
Sure but our countries going from white to non-white is an unprecedented change, and not something anyone in the past could have complained about.

That the elites/ruling class seek to replace their serfs with shitskins

>>79418917
>He thinks he has a God given right over his fellow humans
You are witnessing a major population move. There have been many others throughout history. Your puny borders can't contain it.
THESE people are your brothers, not your employer . Join them and understand where your allegiance should be and who is against you

>>79411094
it's sanctimonious

imagine this guy taking an innocent question and then ranting about shit that only he cares about for 3 minutes if it happened in real life. it would be extremely awkward because he's behaving like an autist. but since it's an opportunity for the writer / showrunner to soapbox his political views, it's presented in an extremely self-congratulatory way.

btw every second of this show is written this way. take a clip like >>79422206 where essentially the message is that citizen journalism is wrong, but they pepper it with a bunch of Big Bang Theory-tier jokes to look "hip" and ~soo above~ the subject matter. it's underhanded. you can imagine whoever wrote it having to periodically put his pen down so he could look in the mirror and admire himself for "enlightening the masses"

>tfw made the mistake of going to journalism school for a year
>encountered multiple people who told me there were there so they could be journalists "just like on The Newsroom"
dropped that shit like it was hot. studying electrical engineering now

what's this flynn deal? what happened

>>79422603
nothing
flynn may have mislead/lied to the white house about some phone calls
So he's resigned. Probably didn't have to.

>>79411094
Even as a european I cringed at him listing european countries and saying they have freedom
We might be mostly free in europe but nobody cares as much about freedom as americans.

>>79422704
It's also nonsense because you'd be arrested for reading passages out of the koran or showing locals the color of crime in their city

>>79422598
>Ywn have Sorkin write/direct your fantasy scenario where you save your qt classmate from school shooters and she loves you forever after
>Ywn witness your power trip daydream of verbally raping the opposition's thesis and have qts miring be animated by actors

What's the point really

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>>79422704
>tfw I will never own a gun

>>79412267
>not wanting to be #1 in infant mortality
You'll never archive anything with that attitude

>>79422739
You don't get arrested for reading passages out of the koran anywhere in the west do you?
But holocaust denial is a good example of a line where europeans are fine with limiting speech
And even though I think most Americans don't think there is any truth to that it is something you are fine with allowing on principle because everything should be fine to talk about.
I respect that dedication to freedom of speech so much.

Also gun laws. Its really hard to get a gun for fun in most of Europe.

>>79422598
Boo hoo you fucking baby, it's a fantasy. You're the sanctimonious one for dropping out of school because you think you're better than those other people, and worse, a TV show.

>>79418917
>>79411906
true hero of this thread

Ironic to me that the same people who share this were the people who spent the election spouting "AMERICA IS ALREADY GREAT" and "AMERICA WAS RACIST IN THE PAST, THUS NEGATING ANYTHING POSITIVE THAT WAS DONE"