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Why do I never see Ripley used as an example of strong female

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Why do I never see Ripley used as an example of strong female characters?
Instead all I see is shit like Ramona Flowers and Furiosa.
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Because Alien was 50 years ago.
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Moot?
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>>79357070

Because she was originally written as a man.
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>>79357070
The feminists that complain about stronk female characters not being common are fucking retarded and generally do not actually partake in the medium they are complaining about. The fact that there are tons of great female characters in fiction eludes them because they are required to have actually seen more than the most basic, surface level trash there is.
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Because you live under a rock and you're underage.

She's the quintessential strong female.
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Because Alien is actually a good movie.
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>>79357070
>all I see is shit like Ramona Flowers
who?
literally never saw mentioning her, who ever she is
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>>79357126
Because Alien was actually Hell
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>>79357070
Because it doesn't force it down your throat that she's a strong female
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>>79357070
Because women doesn't understand Alien.
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>>79357070
>Ramona Flowers AKA the girl with thirteen ex

Not a very good role model.

Also by 'strong' are we limiting the definition as physically strong with combat skills; or woman that have strong mentality or competency can be considered 'strong' too?
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>>79357070
i feel like ripley wasnt a forced strong female character.
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>>79357070
Because it would be difficult for the average woman to emulate Ripley
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>>79357070
Because she's realistic
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feminists like to champion un-feminine imitations of men; a lot of their ideal is just a typical action male in a woman's body

Ripley is not screamingly feminine, but behaves like a normal woman. She's seen scared, doesn't physically confront the big bad, and isn't struggling against men, but something outside the gender paradigm. Feminists also tend to dislike Alien because of the sneaking suspicion that, aesthetically, it's a critique of the sexual liberation of that era. (Killer vaginas, body horror and all that)
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>>79357070
Ripley is referenced a lot as an example of a good strong woman character.

Pic related is more underrated IMO.
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Because shitlord Ridley Scott put her in a gratuitous underwear scene
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>>79358176
Natalie Portman?
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>>79357511

SEVEN EXES! SEVEN!
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>>79358305
That's Keira Knightley actually AKA Natalie Portman's secret twin
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>>79358283
Ridley is cute! Cute!
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>>79357070
Jodie Foster in Silence of the Lambs is the best stronk female imo
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>>79357179
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>>79358537
as a writer i have that quote frame on my wall
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>>79357070
You must be looking at hipster shitholes then if all you see are Ramona Flowers and Furiosa. Ripley and Sarah Conner are the 2 most used examples of strong female characters
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>>79358385
She definitely got the xenomorph's BBC
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>>79358604
A women once asked me how I understood women so well, so I said that. She stormed off, like I knew she would.
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>>79357070
The true female hero
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>>79357070
She didn't pass the bechdel test
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>>79357179
Yeah and in both Aliens and Alien 3 they wanted originally to have a male protagonists can't say for Resurrection, but no one really knows what Jeunet wanted the movie to be.

It's certainly HIS movie alright, creepy scientists, adults talking and acting like children with autsim, Pinon and Perlman, really weird sense of humor, almost like R rated sequel to the City of lost children but with xenomorphs. Don't know if he wanted Ripley or not.
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>>79358044
>doesn't physically confront the big bad

huh?
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>>79358759
LETS ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCK!
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>>79358794
How didn't she? There was another women on the crew and there was zero romance in the plot
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>>79358914
Probably because of Hicks.
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>>79357070
>Ripley and Sarah Connor
great

>Rey and Jyn Erso
fkn stupid and forced to fit the GRIL POWER XD agenda
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>>79358794
>>79358914
>>79358956
http://bechdeltest.com/view/13/alien/
Even the shitty bechdel test site agrees it passes
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>>79357070
>Marc Bolan "died" in 1977
>Alien comes out in 1979

Marc faked his death, had a sex change , and reinvented himself as an actress

THINK
ABOUT
IT
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>>79359050
>those comments
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>>79358176
Why is she strong woman character?
Because she can hide a blunderbuss in her pussy?
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>>79359159
That's some good shit right here.

>I'm not sure if this film passes, and if it does it's through the briefest of conversations. That said it's an extremely feminist film. The protagonist is a woman who is never listened to, and as a direct result all of the men die. She's usually the only person to survive. The antagonist is a penis-covered-phallus-monster-phallus who reproduces via sexual violence, and to whom is this directed? John Hurt's character who is essentially raped and then dies after gestation. Basically it takes a very real danger that women face regularly, applies it to men and suddenly it's a horror film.
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>>79357070
but she is tho
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>>79357070

It kills the narrative that modern feminists are "smashing the patriarchy"
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>>79357070
Because Ellen Ripley (and Sara Connor), at her strongest point, was maternal and protective.

Those who clamor the loudest for Strong Female characters are made uncomfortable by that.

Really makes you think.
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>>79359299
>Basically it takes a very real danger that women face regularly, applies it to men and suddenly it's a horror film.

>Basically it takes a very real danger that women face regularly,

Maybe in the middle east, in the west rapists are generally hated and punished brutally by... men.
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>>79359440
>that bush and armpit hair
hnnnnnng
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>>79358283
> she was supposed to be nude
> NUDE
> NUUUUUDE
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that scene where she comes out the door in a robosuit tho lmao bitch is bad ass
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>>79358634
AYYED
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>>79358283
watch out ripley, it's right there!
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>>79357210
This
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>>79358283
>>79358634
>>79359440
Her legs are so fucking sexy lads
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>>79357070
>Ramona Flowers

literally who
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>>79359654
Please meme it back into popularity, /tv/.
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>>79357247
the multi-colored haired girlfriend from Scott Pilgrim.
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>>79359073
i'd say he looks more like johnny depp.
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>>79358759
I would gladly face the death by snu snu with Vasquez!
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>>79361284
>ywn be that space suit

jdimsa
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>>79359440
>bush
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>>79359440
>That Bush
Why oh why am I apart of the first generation that hates Bush?
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All 80s women look smelly, hairy and tomboish. Worse generation.
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>>79357162
Yes. Here's him visiting the set of Avengers: The Age of Ultron during a bout of autoimmune disease he had
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>>79363404
>he doesnt like unshaven tomboys
faggot
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>>79363454
kek
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