Why was Harry Crane such an underused and underappreciated character

>>79201055
He was a piece of shit. Him and pete had an opposite arc.

>>79201200
>He was a piece of shit.

But that's one of the reasons he was such a great character. And the actor portrayed his sleaziness really well.

You can imagine him becoming a creepy Hollywood sleazebag in the 70s

>>79201055

Because he's just unremarkable in almost every way.

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Would you /tv/?

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>>79201280
No

>>79201055
OP's pissed because he hasn't found a hooker that takes travellers cheques.

>>79201055

I always confuse him with the guy from Archer they have the same face and character.

>>79201055
He's just that fucking guy who gets right under your skin with everything he says/does, and you can't even put your finger on why you hate him so much.

It's something to do with the way that he's constantly demanding/expecting praise, wanting to be treated more "special" than he really is, but Peggy and Pete do similar things and it isn't quite as annoying. He's the kind of guy ho ALWAYS feels like he's being slighted or disrespected, but he's too much of a pussy to stand up for himself past a passive-aggressive comment or complaint here and there. Fuck Harry Crane

>>79201055
Harry is slowly corrupted into a total asshat over the course of the show.

Don't everyone agree that Ken and pirate Ken was the only good human being?

>>79201055
Maybe he was the kind of guy who has no internal moral compass, when there is social liberalization and he rises in power there is simply nothing left that inhibits him acting like an asshole, just my idea anyway

>>79203441
You mean ken and Punished Ken?

And yeah, I can't really recall a time when Ken actively fucked someone over

>>79203441
Pete turned out to be a pretty good guy once he stopped trying so hard.

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No one else enjoyed the scene where he btfo Joan in front of the partners for her whoring ways?

>>79203707
But he was just mad because nobody wanted him to be a partner.

>>79203776
That doesn't make any of what he said untrue

>>79203707
Harry was so fucking based

>white man in Hollywood beating the jews at their own game

Crane wasn't a whiny little faggot with psycho-emotional problems like everyone on this board so everyone hates him.

>>79203776
But the thing is that's justifiably so.
His job is arguably more important. He's the guy who actually has all the REAL connections, he's the guy who brought the most when they started their own company.
Joan sucked a cock and got made partner, Harry worked his ass off for over a decade and essentially got fucked over and then got out of the ad game right when the 70's were starting and the industry imploded.

The best moment was when he hit on Don's toothy wife and got SHOT DOWN

>>79203868
Harry left the ad business at the end?

It's been a while since I've seen it. I don't remember that

>>79203441
Ken resisted his own nature and character to make the wrong choice. His natural inclination was to settle down with his money and become a writer. instead he chose to follow the worst path by working for Dow selling napalm and agent orange.

>>79203868
But none of that matters, because he was just fundamentally unlikeable.

>>79203963
Yeah he became a tv producer, right when television exploded like it never had before.
The television industry didn't start as we know it until the 70's with cable tv becoming a real thing finally which ironically is when the advertising industry self destructed. Over half the firms folded.
End of the Day Harry became the most successful person on the show.

>>79204029
He was way more likeable than Pete.

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I like Harry's actor. Was surprised that it was him in pic, totally didn't realize it until the credits.

>>79201055
Annoyingly average, he is somehow too feminine to be a man, and not outright sensitive enough to make him interesting.

He is the human version getting extra sleep and somehow feeling like worse.

>>79203441
Ken wasnt even really a character until like s6. He has about two subplots before that. He is a foil, a measuring pole for the others.

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>>79204433
>too feminine for a man
>not likeable
>asshole
>creep

All these reaons people say they don't like Harry can also perfectly describe Pete, and yet /tv/ creams itself over Pete

>>79204311
I don't think so.

>>79204685
you're wrong

>>79205281
Pete started out acting like an asshole because he's ambitious, autistic, and desperate to fit in. He cools down as he establishes himself and gets more comfortable in his own skin, and by the end, he pretty much redeems himself and becomes one of the most dependable characters in the whole group, professionally and morally.

Harry is just... Harry, all the way through. He's the same unremarkable dough-faced little shit at the end of the series as he is in season 1

>>79205408
Why do you think that morality is what makes a good character

Well written interesting characters can ve bad people too.

>>79201055
From which Austin Powers movie is this?

He could very easily have been written out of the show once the frat pack aspect of SCD broke down.

>>79205858
Are we talking about "likable" or good writing? You said likable first, and morality typically comes into play there

>>79203402
It's just the other characters don't call him out. Pete and others get called out for a time.

>>79204508
Because if you made a show full of Harrys nobody would want to watch it. He is inoffensive, which is perfectly acceptable as a way to live but this is a tv show.

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>>79201055
>based
he is not based

he is spineless
a kiss ass
a creep

youre the same faggot from the "don asshole mements" thread who said he was a great character

youre a faggot

>>79206629
Then why does this board love Pete so much you mindless drone

>>79206656
because his story is about redemption and hes actually pretty cool once you get to know the character

you are pathetic for thinking about harry crane for the last 16 hours

>>79206656
Because he struggles to reconcile himself with his worst attributes, something most people relate to and admire. Harry indulges all of them, and there's nothing to admire in a mediocre whiner

>>79206656
lol you know you're a Harry, don't you