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Have you punched some people in the face today /tv/?

https://youtu.be/WhEIz9SzrPk
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>>79122442
>tfw no matter how man nazis you punch, the girl will never love you.
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It was the least moronic thing he said. And it was still moronic.
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How long until it's kill instead of punch
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>>79122442
>that one interview where the girl was clearly annoyed by his advances.
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>>79122442
>I saw the avengers and civil war wasn't that bad
>yay civil war
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Alt-right scum deserves to die
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>>79123018

Right around the time they try and start another war.
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>>79122402
Is Finn Wolfhard the Marlon Brando of his generation?
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>>79122442
This kid's gonna grow ugly as fuck
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>>79123359
Brando wishes he was the Finn Wolfhard of his generation. And alive probably.
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take that whites
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>Making a speech shit talking the president of your country on behalf of everyone else.

why bother complaining when you've never protested your electoral system before? And why speak on behalf of an entire production, forcing people who voted for trump to be silenced further
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>>79123410
You can go die in a fire you fucking cow.
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>>79123488
A lot of people have protested the electoral system for years. I can't speak for Harbour, but people complain every election. It doesn't build toasts outrage, but it doesn't typically result in the winner losing the popular vote, and even when it does it isn't a multi-million vote disparity.
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>>79123018
How long until it's commies instead of Nazis? Smashing commies is another great American pastime, and there is an abundance of open commies to choose from.
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>>79123577
I didn't hear hillary shills being up in arms when umbongo lost the popular vote for the primaries
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>>79123639
>lost the popular vote for the primaries

What are you trying to say? Do you know what primaries are? Do you mean the general election? Obama won the popular vote in his election and his reelection.
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>>79123423
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>>79123717
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>>79123639
>I didn't hear hillary shills being up in arms when umbongo lost the popular vote for the primaries

Probably because you were in gradeschool at the time, Hillary supporters were furious back then
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>>79123423
>whites = nazis
projecting much?
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>>79123717
hahah please don't try to politics
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>>79123639
Then you weren't listening too closely. It was a pretty contentious issue.
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>Trump says he wants to punch someone just for protesting his rally
>/pol/: OMG so cool, he's so alpha
>Guy literally punches Nazi faggot
>/pol/: OMG violence is NOT OKAY, Leftists are barbarians
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>>79122402

dude FUCK DONALD TRUMP AND FUCK WHITE PEOPLE lmao
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>>79123018
We were literally killing nazis over 50 years ago...
Killing nazis is an american pastime.
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>>79124233
""nazism"" = any form of white nativism, white self-identity, recognition of white culture, desire to protect white culture or population, recognition of demographic facts.

99% of the people these guys are referring would not even call themselves Nazis, but applying the label "Nazi" is just a perfect plug-in for shutting down White people as a whole.
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>>79124276
there's an image for that
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>>79124276
>hillary sends shills in to start trouble and provoke people into fights
>trump gives brief bravado about how he should be punched in the face

>hillary loses election
>hollywood elites throw a tantrum and advocate half of the electorate get punched in the face with their skewed ideological perception of what a nazi is
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>>79124310
>HEIL TRUMP
>HEIL VICTORY
>6 HOUR LONG RALLY
>NAZI SALUTE LOLZ

"I'm not a Nazi guys geez, you just want to shut me down"
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punching white supremacist nazis is the most American thing you can do
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>>79124315
I love those strawman comics
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>>79122402
>mfw my oldest friend is on the "everyone who disagrees is a nazi, so punch them" train.

He talks a big game, but he's never going to lay a hand in anyone. It's just really annoying to see all this pigeonholing lately. I'll disown him if he turns to an antifa idiot
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>>79124310
nazis didn't call themselves nazis either, they hated the term.

>>79123018
not soon enough
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>>79124310
Sorry, didn't realize nazi was a trigger word for you. If you want a safe space where you can cry about it you can go back to /pol/
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>>79124338
>implying shutting down ideology through violent illegal attacks is acceptable in a free democracy
>implying 4 people using the roman salute out of over 100 means that richard spencer is an ideological National Socialist
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Funny how the punch a nazi crowd conviently forget commies got punched out straight after the nazis
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>>79124338
inb4 armenian genocide shitposting
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>>79124344
>I'll drop my oldest friend if it turns out he's anti-fascist
you're beyond saving, anon
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>>79124386
>the roman salute

You're not even trying now
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>>79124338
He already explained that it was a joke
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>>79123639
They did. it wasn't quite as bad as the Bernie/Clinton backlash, but Clinton and Obama were essentially the same person in all but complexion, and the Democratic Party was fairly united after the Bush years. Also, any residue saltiness was quickly washed away after Palin showed up.
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We need to lighten up the mood in here...and nothing says "It's gonna be a GREAT day!" like some good ol' fashioned "Newman tortures and kills Seinfeld characters" pics!
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>>79124414
>I was only pretending to be a nazi
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>>79122402

odjebite ameri pun mi vas je kurac
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>>79124371
You sound more triggered to me. I'm simply pointing out your side's tactics, and what they mean. You can call me and other people a Nazi all you want.

Back to >>>/reddit/
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>>79124400
You can go ahead and punch any commie that advocates ethnic cleansing. You have my permission.
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>>79122402

No.

I've found it's better not to be an unhinged, delirious, violent lunatic if you want people to listen to you and share your political beliefs.

I'm sure terrorism has it's merits, but I don't think in the case of getting people to stop supporting Donald Trump it's going to be all that effective, and will probably just harden their resolve.
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>>79124408
>antifa
>Anti fascist
pick one
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>>79124409
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellamy_salute

Next thing you'll be saying the Fasces is a Fascist symbol when there's literally 10+ of them in the Senate. Cry more faggot
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>>79124427
You keep asking for Nazis you're going to get Nazis
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>>79124386
>implying shutting down ideology through violent illegal attacks is acceptable in a free democracy
It is. Shutting down neo-nazis and not allowing them to have a platform to spread their ideology is protecting democracy and society as a whole.
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>>79123018

When the Democrats don't win back congress in the mid-terms.

They'll get really worried, and rather than addressing their failings, they will empower and encourage the extreme or vulnerable elements of their supporters to start graduating from targeted, low level violence, to wider spread serious violence.

Then in 30 years Hollywood stars will make vanity projects about them painting them as "complicated" and "ultimately misguided but essentially correct".
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>>79124463
I wonder who is behind these posts
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>>79124408
I guess I mean the extreme, where they put on ski masks and attack anyone who doesn't adhere to their ideals. I say that in jest. He's all about the sjw shit in social media, but laughs his ass off when I make fun of his turbo feminist gf and her trap friends. He knows it's just busting balls, but puts on heirs for the general public.
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>>79124289

You were killing communists LESS than 50 years ago.

So which takes precedence?
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>>79124458
that's like saying:

>isn't
>is not
pick one
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>>79124491
you sound like a terrible friend and person. you should tell him you voted for trump so he can drop your deadweight already
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>>79124507
Antifa is not anti fascism
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>>79124475
Move to Britain or some other Big Brother state if that's what you want. It's not acceptable here in the United States, and never will be. You can have your Orwellianism alone in the corner.
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>>79124205

It's because Hillary campaigned in Michigan even though it was banned.
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>>79124276
>says he wants to
>literally punches
I know leftists aren't great at critical thinking but what's the difference here?
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>>79124459
Are you honestly saying that you believe the people at this conference that openly admit to advocating white nationalism were doing the fucking Nazi salute by coincidence? Are you actually fucking retarded?
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>>79124540
I didn't though. He just turned into a virtue signaling machine on November 9th, and it's annoying because it's literally only for social media. He's turning closed minded under the guise of progression. I know he's a hypocrite.
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>>79124506
Whichever advocates ethnic cleansing first.
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>>79124643
Does Spencer advocate ethnic cleansing?
Never heard him say that
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what would happen if the right punched back?
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>>79124602
Trump is too cowardly to go through with his threats, relying on others to do it for him? (HURR I'LL PAY YOUR LEGAL FEES)
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>>79122442
What happened to froggoposting? It has all but vanished.
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>>79124621
People who attend NPI are history-interested Alt Righters, not street thug neo-Nazis. 4 people out of over 100 in a moment of irony giving that salute is meaningless. White nationalism is something that can only be traced back to a 10 year period in the 1930s and 40s, sorry to disappoint you.
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>>79124659
Did I say to kill Spencer?
Never heard me say that
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>left pushes the narrative of legitimizing the violence against anyone who leans for nationalism
>yfw soon it's gonna be legal to hunt down and kill /pol/fags
What a time to be alive lads
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>>79124685
Then why are we talking about punching nazis?
Which nazi got punched?
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I just think it's funny how the anti-fascists calling everyone Nazis ARE the fascist Nazis of this generation, and simply lack the self-awareness to realize it.
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>>79124694
>punching = killing
try again
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>right
>nazis
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>>79124704
You make no sense, I think you're confused.
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>>79124691
would be nice to finally cleanse /tv/ of /pol/ crossboarders
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>>79123018
>KILL SOME PEOPLE IN THE FACE

Doesn't sound as good.
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I would love for some faggot who got high off this empty twitter morale social media shit to try this shit on proletariat working class jeans-wearing White guys, who just respond by blowing their heads off by with a shotgun and then going back to working 14 hours.
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>>79124400
america is a communist country
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>>79124746
This is probably why they just settle with pepper-spraying women.
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>>79123018
A single punch to the face has and will kill people, seen it happen personally. Took their lights out, made them hit the ground straight with their head whiplashing with a loud, sharp snap. DOA. The guy got 20 to life. So go ahead kids, murdering someone might change your view on life, it will definitely change the shape of your anus once Jamal welcomes you to gen pop.
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>>79122442
Bigger autist than Barron
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>>79122402
>No we just advocate race based genocide, eugenics, national socialism and nationalism
>ITS THE LIBERALS WHO ARE THE REAL NAZIS BECAUSE THEY WANT TO PUNCH US FOR PURPOSELY BEING AN ASSHOLE ABOUT LITERALLY EVERYTHING
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I'm more angry that this shithead went up on stage with entire cast full of kids and wasted it all on his shitty political rant.
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>>79124821
>No we just advocate race based genocide, eugenics, national socialism and nationalism
Who does?
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>russians are commies
>Trump is a nazi
>Trump is Putin's puppet
>nazi considered commies their natural enemies
They can't even their accusations right anymore
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>>79124746
Did you get a boner typing that? It's honestly a little weird that you're so excited about this
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>>79124643
Does the holdomer count as ethnic cleansing? I don't think mass starvation counts as ethnic cleansing but it's effectively mass murder
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>>79124821
Whats wrong with eugenics and nationalism?
Yeah, who the fuck wants a strong nation full of beautiful, healthy people
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>>79124834
>No we're just trolling lol
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>>79124813
Nope. He is well adjusted and personable and a gift to mankind.
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>>79124660
Compare antifa riot to a Trump rally. Guess who is more likely to be a registered gun owner?
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>>79124660
The media would vilify the right and use it as an excuse to put out even more propaganda.

Violence is a good way of getting out frustration but a pretty poor way of getting people to sympathize with your way of thinking.
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>>79124879
Who are you talking about?
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>>79124342
I know they are hugely flawed and a ridiculous way to communicate political ideas but they are honestly a lot of fun.
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>>79124691
If they set that precedent then we'll hunt them back. Guess who has all the guns?
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>>79122402
Who would actually win in a debate?
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>>79124448
>I've found it's better not to be an unhinged, delirious, violent lunatic if you want people to listen to you and share your political beliefs.
QFT
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>>79124911
>/pol/ NEETs
>owning guns
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Guys please don't go out punching each other. It may sound cool "punch a nazi in the face", but when you punch someone for wearing a Tump hat that's not doing any good. Don't start dehumanizing people by calling them Nazis. Dehumanization is the first step in violence and the main goal of propaganda. This is all propaganda.
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I'm so glad /tv/ is on the right side of history. Other boards really need to shape up.
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>>79124911
its america, everyone has a gun
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>>79124746
They never leave their liberal containment zones
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>>79124427
But the people in the crowd giving the salute were Jewish!
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>>79124873
>/pol/
>beautiful and strong
Let's not kid ourselves here, everyone who visits 4chan would be put into the chambers first.
Plus, look at people like Stephen Hawking. He would have been euthanised since he isn't exactly a genetic 10/10 species but he did more for the human race any neonazi ever could
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>>79124821
>enforcing current border laws and deporting illegal immigrants is genocide
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>>79124873
Nationalism is stupid in the modern economy and shutting yourself out doesn't do anything other than raise the price of production due to the lack of specialty components.

Eugenics would be a good idea if you could get some AI or something running it but everyone here just wants to kill all the jews so it'll never happen the way it would need to in order to actually help
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>>79124813
If by 'bigger autist' you mean 'probably gives better hugs', then yes. Yes, 100%
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>>79124943
>enforcing border laws is the only thing trump has said he wanted to do
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>>79124941
Stephen Hawking has done jack fucking shit for the human race. Nazis put us into space and gave us atomic energy.
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>>79122442
I thought making fun of kids was wrong, Trumptards?
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>>79124707
The key point in all this is fire. I vote we punch anyone who uses fire. I am a critical thinker.
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>>79124873
how does nationalism bring a strong nation?

when has nationalism done any good in the last century?
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>>79122442

Now replace nazis with Jews and your file name is accurate. But seriously, why are there so many kikes on 4chan?
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>>79124925
>Libtards and antifags
>owning guns

>>79124936
Tell that to Commiefornia or Jew York
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>>79124289
>Killing Nazis
>Believes nothing different to the men who landed at Omaha
>Nazi
Yap my grandpa fucking loves demiqueer butch dyke femboys. This is entirely the future he had in mind
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>>79124475
If the people need to be protected from those ideas, you're implicitly saying that those ideas are convincing, if they were poorly constructed like flat earthers there'd be no need for protection.
Why do you find nazi ideas so compelling?
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>>79124730
No longer possible at this stage.
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>>79124205
The popular vote in the primaries doesn't matter, since they aren't open to all voters. It's a insular system ran by a private organization.

Comparing it to the popular vote of the general election, which is meant to be participated in by everyone, is retarded.
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>>79124985
>how does nationalism bring a strong nation?
By making sure your country doesn't get infested by sandniggers and collapse.
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>>79124873
>Yeah, who the fuck wants a strong nation full of beautiful, healthy people

statistically speaking, you wouldnt get to enjoy it at all since its unlikely you have perfect genes
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>>79124929
Who said anything about punching trump supporters? I only want to punch Nazis and those that publicly advocate hatred. Why do trump supporters keep lumping themselves in with Nazis?
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>>79124985

Every country of relevance has been built on nationalism.
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>>79124985
National Socialist Germany and pre Marxist infiltrated America
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>>79124643

Well, Americans advocated ethnic cleansing before either Communists OR Nazis...

So we should just kill Americans.

Everyone wins. Especially us non-Americans.
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>>79125006
But the popular votes don't matterfor the general either.
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>>79124980
I don't think he's making fun of Finn. Froggoposting is a labor of love.
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>>79122402
>muh Nazi dindu nuffin he was a good boi
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>>79124660

Chomsky is a Pol Pot supporter.

Pol Pot was breddy brudal.

Sure fucked up a lot of privileged so and so's.
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>>79124987
>commiefornia

the state with the highest amount of gun crime?

yea, no guns there...
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>>79124985
>how does nationalism bring a strong nation?
>China
>Japan
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>>79124289
This post is proof there is an organized anti trump shill movement on this board. No one on /tv/ would seriously say such a cliche forced phrase like that.

4chan with the exception of a few boards at most, is Pro-Trump. Trump is the greatest shitlord of all time.
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>>79125010
>Why do trump supporters keep lumping themselves in with Nazis?
>why does the media*

Ftfy
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>>79124691

Except the nationalists are in charge.

So it will be illegal to hunt Nazi's, but legal to hunt "communists" and "terrorists".
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>>79125011
everyone country of relevance has been relevant for the past century. nationalism has had nothing to do with it in recent times
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>>79125051
You think niggers and spics aren't going to go commie hunting?
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>>79125052
U.S.A as well, very patriotic (atleast it used to be)
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>>79125017
I rest my case
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>>79124985
>when has nationalism done any good in the last century?

It tore apart the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia.
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>>79125066
Trump and Bannon will be kicked out of office soon, enjoy your memes while they last, alt-kek
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>>79124985

China. Japan. South Korea. The United States.

I dunno man, nationalism seems pretty good.
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>>79123025
????
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>>79125024
Which is why we're complaining about it. Keep up.
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>>79125055
It's just fucktarded redditors

>>79125088
That you got BTFO? K kiddo
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>>79125092
This will be the end of Trump sas increasingly nervous man for the 13th time
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>>79125052
do you honestly think japan would be even a shell of it's former self if not for the opening of its borders?
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>>79125058
>Pronationalistic
>supports bans on specific ethnic groups and religions
>noticeably aggressive
>Blames a specific political group for all problems in the country
>Lies about events and discredits any dissent

Yea nothing like facism lol
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>>79125091
>Totally artificial states held together by totalitarianism disintegrate into nation states when the central authority collapses
wow really made me brain do the thing
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>>79125069
What about Korea?
South Korea became relevant
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>>79125092
Blumpf will never win! O wait...
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>>79125055

New posters from twitter/reddit/tumblr etc.

The picture and phrase is common on retarded twitter feeds and youtube stuff.

It's /pol/'s fault for leaking 4chan into rl again anyway.

It's a post from the sort of person who would unironically post on A.V. Club or something.
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>>79125104
But your complaining isn't relevant, it has no effect on Trump's presidency
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>>79125076
no
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>>79125092

>Soon.

Four years at least.

Probably eight the way things are going.

But it's probably not a thing. The right in America is pretty benign and big on social liberties. When the liberals take charge again it's going to be a Stalinist like bloodbath.

I don't live in the U.S. so I don't care tbqh, but it's going to be entertaining.
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>>79125124
and it was due to nationalism?

I would say it was due to thier tech companies
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>>79125112

>Opening of it's borders

What does this have to do with nationalism?

It made them MORE nationalistic when they opened for trade. They became militaristic, nationalistic and imperialist as a result.

If we had just let them keep their borders shut, millions would be alive now.
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>>79125115
>being a patriot and loyal to your country is bad
>terrorist are good
>being a cuck is good
>waaaa don't point out the inner cities that are in shambles have been run by democrats for 50+ years
>if I project my faults onto my opponent maybe I'll look better!

And you honestly wonder why you lost
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>>79125159
>the 8 years meme
>The fastest dropping approval rate ever
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>>79125136
so overturning executive orders doesnt affect trump at all?
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Didn't Shia got arrested just trying to manhandle people?

I can't imagine how many shekels they can shake off him.
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>>79125010
Please stop acting dense. None of this would be happening if Trump wasn't elected. My point is that the term "Nazi" is being thrown around way too much, even to people who merely supported Trump. Do you not watch the news? People being assaulted for supporting Trump? They stand behind the mindset that they are doing good because they are fighting back Nazis. "Publicly advocate hatred"? Dissent isn't something you should be throwing punches over
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>>79124999
Bad ideas can be convincing. Jihad, meth, communism, the Black Eyed Peas, and voting Trump are all quite popular despite being objectively terrible.
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>>79125136
Your comment is irrelevant. I never mentioned Trump's presidency.

Complaining about the electoral system is the only way to get rid of it.
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>>79125115

That actually isn't anything like Fascism though.

It's also not like Trump either.

If you want to find a Trump/Fascism match, look at his appointment of Rex Tillerson and the Dakota Pipeline etc.

Or pick up a fucking book and learn what fascism is.
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>>79125112
>nationalism is the same thing as total isolationism

Do you have brain problems?
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>>79125139
They can't wait to kill some crackers
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>>79125188
He is down in every poll, Texas might go blue!
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>>79125066
Why would it not be legal to hunt Nazis in a fiercely nationalist society? Nazis are a historical enemy of our nation.
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>>79125188

>Approval rate

Just like all the polls showed Hillary winning the election right?

If the poll was conducted by a mainstream media company, it's immediately discredited.

Stop setting yourself up for disappointment. It makes you violent and rioty.
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>>79125188
>believing Fake Pills after "Hillary has a 98% chance of winning"

Good goy
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>>79125225
Remember Hillary got this in the bag!
Drumpf has 1.8% of winning!
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>>79125238
>If the poll was conducted by a mainstream media company, it's immediately discredited.

agreed, thats why I mostly go to breitbart for news
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>>79125241
But the polls weren't wrong, Trump winning was always in the margin of error.

Are you stupid?
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>>79125210
The electoral sysyem is the best form of Democracy for the USA, lest our elections be decided by states with the biggest populations.
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>>79125188
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>>79124821

The issue is that Nazi will soon come to be the new "racist"

Brexit is Nazi.
Denouncing Sharia law is Nazi
Not wanting your childre to be Trans is Nazi.

You see the problem?
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>>79125116
>warn against being folded into another totalitarian super-state
>BOO NAZI WE DON'T NEED BORDERS N SHIEET

EU's up next
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>>79125192
>DUDE HE WILL NOT DIVIDE US
>give up within 2 weeks
Truly, the greatest artist of our generation
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>>79125266

Oh sweetie. Don't you know that Hillary won?
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>>79125225
that would be wild.

theres a small chance of it happening but trump could destroy the republican party
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>>79125266
If the polls weren't wrong then Hillcunt would have won 98% of the popular and electoral vote you fucking idiot
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>>79125241
>mainstream media spouts one-thousandth of a percent of the amount of bullshit spewed by /pol/-tier "sources"
>discreditedlol!

The doublethink on you tards never gets old. Just imagining you ever applying "logical" uniformly is more absurd than any fairy tale.
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>>79125279
none of those things are 'nazi' by any definition.

you are arguing for a slippery slope that doesnt even make sense
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>>79125300
Say it with me: Madam president!
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>>79125234

Because you have the 1st Amendment.

Same reason you can't legally hunt and kill communists.

Otherwise half of Hollywood would be dead.

There is also the practical nature - If you had the right to hunt and kill Nazi's, the U.S. wouldn't have landed a man on the moon.

So some national objectives take precedence.
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>>79125300
The Democrat party is already destroyed
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>>79125271
The electoral system is the worst form of Democracy for the USA, lest our election be decided by a small selection of poor, failing swing states.

What's wrong with letting the states providing us with the highest GDP (New York) and producing the most food (California) deciding our elections? They also pay more in taxes, while receiving less federal funds than your welfare, redneck shitholes.
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Fuck drumpf and fuck white people.
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>>79125318
If you still want to trust Fake News and Fake Polls form the mainstream then idgaf, stay a fucktarded boot licking conformist
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>>79125261

You could do worse.

At least they're on the Right Side Of History.

And a better score card than The Washington Post or CNN at the moment.

>>79125266

>Poll said Hillary would win the General Election

>Hillary lost the General Election

>Poster literally doesn't know what the word "wrong" means

>Calls others stupid

meine sides.
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>>79125329
lol there is no way hillary would run again

I dont see any other woman that could
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>>79125322

All of those things have been called Nazi repeatedly by the media. The Remain campaign was nothing but that.
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>>79125192
He got arrested for punching a kid who also happened to be on his side
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>>79125353
Perhaps Pocahontas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPRV5RZgN-E
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>>79125300
Listen to me, Bernie can still make it! Here's how.....
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>>79125361
what media? certainly not american media
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>>79125322

Milo is a gay homosexual with no history of racism who makes fun of transvestites and doesn't like Shariah Law.

Which makes him a Nazi.

Why are you defending Nazism?
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>>79125351
>random anon proves he never went to college or took a statistics class

The polls didn't say Hillary would win the general election, they said she had a high chance of winning it. Donald winning it was always in the margin of error.

You only think the polls were wrong, because you're dumb.
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>>79125322
How is Milo, a gay race mixing jew, a nazi? The slippery slope is real

>>79125345
The election was decided by Florida and the rust belt + Pennsylvania

That is hardly "a small selection of poor, failing swing states," you fucking deluded idiot.

Because fuck Marxist and fuck jews. Electoral College is here to stay. God bless the Founding Fathers.
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>>79125370
he would be like 80? get real...
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>>79125378
He's a homo that prefers black dudes which makes him a racist homophobe too
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>>79123018
The Berkeley riots caused a confirmed Concussion and broken ribcage+probable brain damage.

They're getting closer
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>>79125378
I dont know what a milo is but I am not defending them
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>>79125345

Because the U.S. was conceived as a, wait for it, Union Of States. Independent, self governing states, with their own interests and societies.

So it's the perfect system for your country. It means states with high populations can't overwhelm states with smaller populations.

It means a bunch of uptight dickheads in California can't stop a good, decent man from marrying 10 of his cousins in Utah.
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>>79125406
>I was only pretending to be retarded
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>>79125382

>The polls didn't say Hillary would win the general election

Not even bother going to read the rest of your halfwit low I.Q. mouth breathing trailer park stupidity.
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>>79125374

>Not American media

Does the A.V. Club or The New York Times count as American media?
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>>79125382
>1.8% chance of winning is within margin of error

This why everyone calls you a libtard
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>>79125364
...no, he got arrested for lightly pushing and pulling the scarf of some guy saying Hitler did nothing wrong in front of the livestream. Stop making up bullshit.

>>79125390
>The election was decided by Florida and the rust belt + Pennsylvania

If the election was based on the popular vote, these states would be rightfully irrelevant. Florida shouldn't be allowed to decide local ice cream flavors, let alone national elections.
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>>79125010
t. libshit
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>>79125409
but the electoral college only applies to the president, who is part of the federal government which applies to all citizens not just specific states.

people in california couldnt affect laws in utah whether or not the electoral college exists.
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>>79122442
I love it when people go all feelsy at what kids say as if they are bearers of immense wisdom, but the truth is kids can get hyped into anything, just like this fuck is hyped into civil war another fuck can just easily get hyped into genocide, it's all about framing the narrative and giving social validation.
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>>79125406

He's a Nazi and your lack of condemnation makes you one too, and I hope you get punched in your fucking face, fascist scum.
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>>79125409
It's the worst system for my country. It means states with lower populations can overwhelm state with higher populations, and means that the states that are objectively costing this country the most money, get to forced their failed economic ideals on the rest of us.

The electoral college is basically a participation trophy for our worst citizens.
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>>79125445
I searched for the work nazi, in relation to those topics on the new york times and found nothing.

care to share?
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>>79125447
He pulled that guy off camera and shouted at him then punched someone else

t. the guy who said hitler did nothing wrong (not me but the guy posted what happened on /pol/)
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>>79125447
Our elections are decided by the electorate. Trump won the popular vore in those states and therefore won their electorates. Their electorates were crucial to winning and have helped Democrats in the past.

Holy shit you are fucktarded, stop going on reddit.
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Whatever Trump does, the white race is fucked. It's just a matter of time before libshits are in complete control. Trump merely delayed the inevitable, the fall of the west. They've already taken over the media almost completely. Once you control the supply of information, you control nations.
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>>79125447

>If the election was based on the popular vote

>If

If you were attractive and had a good personality women would find you attractive.

But here we are, stuck in reality.
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>>79125159
>When the liberals take charge again it's going to be a Stalinist like bloodbath.
It's going to be 4-8 years of the left trying to push a very mild progressive agenda while complaining about their lack of support in the house/congress. People on the internet are so fucking dramatic it's insane. In reality, the world is 1000x more boring than we make it out to be.
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>>79125432
>Not even bother going to read

In other words, you have no rebuttal. Thought so.

Shut up pussy.
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>>79125468
if hes a nazi, then fuck him I dont care
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>>79125458
Nobosy gives a fuck. Commiefornia is the shittiest state in the union.
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>>79125458

>People in California couldn't affect laws in Utah whether or not the electoral college exists.

Preceded by;

>but the electoral college only applies to the president, who is part of the federal government which applies to all citizens not just specific states.

Don't they teach you basic civics in your schools?

You do know the founding fathers wrote very detailed, lengthy papers on how the system works and why it works the way it does, right?
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>>79125490
no one is arguing how the president is elected, we are just saying its stupid as fuck
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>>79125519
Nothing says nazi like a flamboyant gay jew that fucks black men.
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>>79125490
No, our elections are decided by state electors. The electorate voted for Hillary Clinton.

>>79125501
My President was a smoking hot Milf, your President is a balding, obese, orange-tinted buffoon.
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>>79125537
No, arguing for the popular vote is stupid as fuck. Try thinking for yourself sometime you fucktarded conformist
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>>79125544
I am not gay dude, wtf
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>>79125488

I'm curious, have you heard of Google?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/21/us/politics/richard-spencer-punched-attack.html?_r=0
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>>79125557
Damn I had no idea Trump was so thicc
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>>79125557
State electors have a duty to honor their constituents, which they did. Pathological lying money laundering war mongering pedophile defending serial rapist enabling Hitlary Klanton got BTFO
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>>79125560
>conformist
>for wanting to change the status quo against popular opinion

why do I even come here...
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>>79124821
I can't wait until the inevitable civil war. We Rightists are going to burn San Fransisco to the ground; it's going to be great.
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>>79125522
>Commiefornia is the shittiest state in the union.

Based on what? I can guarantee it provides more in terms of culture and food than your state, provides more in taxes, take less in welfare, and has a higher percentage of employed citizens.

So tell me, what piece of shit state are from?
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WHY CAN'T WE PUT ASIDE OUR DIFFERENCES AND DISCUSS FINN WOLFHARD LIKE CIVILIZED HUMAN BEANS!?
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>>79124276
>everyone who disagrees with my cuckolded opinions is Nazi!!!11!!!
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>>79125582
theres no mention of sharia law, brexit, or trans people anywhere in that article
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>>79125588
>State electors have a duty to honor their constituents, which they did.

That's irrelevant to the point. The electorate did not vote for Trump. Kindly amend your statement, admit that you were wrong, and stop sending me irrelevant replies.
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>>79125562
Sure you are, faggot.

>>79125589
>conformist
>for agreeing with all your clueless fakebook and reddit friends

I don't know, fuck off redditard
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>>79125594
>provides more in taxes, take less in welfare, and has a higher percentage of employed citizens.

Meanwhile it's in debt.
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>>79125594
Mississippi
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>>79125494
>They've already taken over the media almost completely
traditional media is in its death throes. Alex Jones gets more views than CNN. We've entered the age of memes. Have you ever seen a leftist try to meme? Sad!
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>>79125620
>reddit

I dont think the site with one of the biggest pro-trump forums would agree with me...
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>>79125010
And I want to "punch" you un-American scum. It'd be a great service to humanity.
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>>79125603
>anon is literally a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party of the 1940s.
>still claims he isn't a nazi

This is getting stupid.
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>>79125592
The "revolution" is never coming, and we're all going to spend the rest of our boring lives shitposting about social/political nonsense which barely even effects us.
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>>79125589
>change the status quo against popular opinion
>by honoring the popular vote

Logic!

>>79125594
Crime, sheltering illegals, sanctuary cities, communist universities, anti 1st & 2nd amendment, waste of federal and natural resources. Shittiesr state in the union
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>>79125627
>Alex Jones gets more views than CNN.
Nope. CNN airs in every country in the world 24/7 while Jones is a Youtube personality who barely has two million views. These are the people in charge. Jones is a fart in comparison to the liberal media network.
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>>79125624
>Meanwhile it's in debt.

like the rest of the country?

also

>provides more in taxes
>take less in welfare

its almost like more money is going out than in?!?!?!
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>>79125599
He truly is a ray of sunshine in the darkness of post-election 4chan.
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>>79125188
Retard detected. Kill yourself, libtard.
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>>79125485

It's a system that contributed you to having the richest, most powerful country on earth.

>It means states with lower populations can overwhelm state with higher populations

It means states with higher populations can't overwhelm states with lower populations.

>and means that the states that are objectively costing this country the most money, get to forced their failed economic ideals on the rest of us.

The majority of your top ten richest states are Republican/Voted Trump.

>The electoral college is basically a participation trophy for our worst citizens.

It's a tool designed to protect states rights.

You seem to forget that you are a constitutional republic. You are governed by laws, not a direct democracy governed by majority whims.

It was a very specific, important factor to your founding fathers. And arguably to a large factor in your success as a country. Maybe.
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>>79125657
the popular opinion is that the electoral college is necessary
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>>79125615
I forgot, Blurmpf is NOT my president!

*punches elderly woman in the face*
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>Gay Catholic coalburning Jew
>HE'S A NAZI

Wat.
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>>79125507

Um, you literally elected Hitler and we're literally undergoing WW3 right now anon.

THERE ARE NAZIS UNDER YOUR BED, RIGHT NOW, SNATCHING YOUR CHILDREN UP.
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>>79125685
>It means states with higher populations can't overwhelm states with lower populations.


and why shouldnt they? they have more people. Are you saying a majority of people shouldn't get the final say in whats right for the country?
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>>79125641
Yeah, because every other forum on the site is pro-Trump. Holy shit you are fucktarded
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>>79125660
CNN is broadcast as background noise in nursing homes and airports
>>
Actual Nazis deserve far, far worse than a punch in the face. It's important to use that label when it actually applies though, and not just slingshot it at Trump supporters. Most of them are just really stupid, not malicious, evil, hateful lunatics.
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>>79125698
Milo is a jew m8
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>>79125666
If anything you said was true the state wouldn't be in debt.
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>>79125557

>My President was a smoking hot Milf?

Your post indicates your American.

You've never had a female president.

Let alone a Smoking Hot Milf one.
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>>79125716

That sounds like a good way to get states to cede from the union.
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>>79125688
Really, because it seems among the conformist normalfags, the popular opinion is to have our elections decided by the popular vote.
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>>79125732
how would providing the federal government with more taxes than the welfare it provides not put us in debt?
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>>79125609

But you said "Nazi".

Make up your mind.
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>>79125726
It's like racist or other -ists. It doesn't have a meaning anymore because liberals are using it against anyone they disagree with.
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>>79123018

You're late. Liberals have been calling for a Trump assassination/coup since he won.
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>>79125726

Rational post.
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>>79125731
#NaziJewsMatter
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>>79125746
civil war happened despite the electoral college being in place.
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>>79125592
Same here. Can't wait to start with the helicopter rides. Commies aren't even human.
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>>79125746
That's illegal.

Once California tries to secede it'll be declared a territory after a short civil war and the country would become Conservative forever.
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>>79125130

4chan has become too mainstream. First, it got infiltrated with stormfags who brainwashed the aimless teens and now the liberals are leaking in to brainwash the remaining/new fuckers who are coming in.

It seems like this place is almost becoming an advertising ground for political movements which is ultimately giving birth to people like Tomi Lahren and the 'popular' right wing, good looking spokespersons. They are basically making money for free from here. Something very similar happened to /v/, where shills would come into promoting games and e-celebs.
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>>79125790
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>>79125751
not sure what circles you run in, but election reform is way down the list on things most people get upset about
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>>79125786
Only in liberal containment zones. Weren't you fucktards moving to Canada?
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>>79125594

Foreigner here.

Southern California and L.A. are among the most disgusting shit holes I have ever been.

San Francisco is like a giant Starbucks were culture and art went to die.

I thought Portland and Astoria were amazing, but I was then informed I was no longer in California.

I'm going back later this year to visit family. They tell me where they live now outside of San Francisco is quite beautiful and it looks it from the photos. So fingers crossed.
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>mfw I'll live to see 2nd ACW
)))))))))))))))))))))
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>>79125766
and you said sharia law, brexit, and trans

you said people opposed to those things are nazi's and the media calls them that repeatedly.
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>>79125798

I was arguing in favour of the electoral collage, voting by constituancy makes more sense than a popular vote.
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>>79125685
>It's a system that contributed you to having the richest, most powerful country on earth.

So did slavery, but we changed that once we realized it was wasn't working.

>It means states with higher populations can't overwhelm states with lower populations.

It means states with lower populations can overwhelm state with higher populations, despite the general tenant behind voting being, "Get the most votes and you win." Too bad the smaller states, which are rapidly losing their population to the cities, need a hand-out in order to compete.

>The majority of your top ten richest states are Republican/Voted Trump.

The single most richest state whether it terms of GDP or median household income voted for Clinton. You don't get a participation trophy for third.

>It's a tool designed to protect states rights.

It's a tool to prevent the will of the people overturning the will of the elite. It was a tool designed to keep the rabble from overwhelming the ballots are choosing a ruinous, charismatic populist with no experience or qualifications to be President.

And it failed.

>muh founding fathers

The Constitution has been amended before, it can be amended again.
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>>79125660
I hate Alex Jones, but in all fairness, he has a staggering number of listeners. But terrestrial radio and basic cable are two different beasts. He averages more daily listeners than CNN has viewers for any given show in any given time slot, but AM radio listeners have fewer choices and and consume content in different ways. Jones gets around 4 million listeners daily, but most of them are listening at work during the day and his show is one of a handful of options, whereas while there are more asses seated in front of the TV during CNN's prime time hours, most of them are watching real TV and are content to watch their local news.
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>>79125781
>>79125726

Fuck off to "leftypol", retards.
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>>79125809
I don't have to have a fakebook or reddit account to know the normalfags were crying b-but madam president won the p-popular vote ;_;
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>>79125805
I want that hat.
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>>79125746
Good, we don't need the welfare states.

>>79125692
You also forgot to actually include an argument in your rambling nonsense.
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>>79125854
and do you see many people protesting that now?

no?

thats what I thought
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>>79125790
THIS
H
I
S
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>>79125742
Yes, we have. Hillary Clinton.

The President the people voted for.
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>>79125885
The president California and New York voted for*
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>>79125861
Who needs an argument when Plurmpf is NOT my President?!?

>>79125863
Because they're bandwagoning conformist, led by social media, which is led by mainstream media. Ermagerd did you hear Grumpf wants to ban Muslims D:<?!?!?!
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>>79125893
the president most people voted for*
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>>79125885
The President dead people and illegals voted for*

Ftfy
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>>79125720
According to their direct competition.
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>>79125900
>Because they're bandwagoning conformist, led by social media, which is led by mainstream media.


and that has nothing to do with your point. in fact it contradicts it
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>>79125716

Because your founding fathers believed that people's individual rights, and the ability to have small government managed by people to protect their rights, was more important than majority rule.

>If a majority are capable of preferring their own private interest, or that of their families, counties, and party, to that of the nation collectively, some provision must be made in the constitution, in favor of justice, to compel all to respect the common right, the public good, the universal law, in preference to all private and partial considerations... And that the desires of the majority of the people are often for injustice and inhumanity against the minority, is demonstrated by every page of history... To remedy the dangers attendant upon the arbitrary use of power, checks, however multiplied, will scarcely avail without an explicit admission some limitation of the right of the majority to exercise sovereign authority over the individual citizen... In popular governments [democracies], minorities [individuals] constantly run much greater risk of suffering from arbitrary power than in absolute monarchies...

>Are you saying a majority of people shouldn't get the final say in whats right for the country?

No. YOUR countries law, it's very fabric, as defined by it's founders, says that.

Honestly you're arguing that you want your country to be a fundamentally different country from what it is and what it was designed to be.

At this point you would be better off moving to another country. That's not an insult or a meme or whatever, but you're upset at, and don't want to be governed by, the fundamental laws of your nation. And there are many other nations (of varying cultures) that adhere to what you like.
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>>79125904
>Commiefornians and Jew Yorkers are people now
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>>79125932
[something about the founding fathers being racist white men]
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>>79125918
You're fake news.
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>>79125918
if you can prove people voted illegally that would be the story of the decade
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>>79125931
In fact no it doesn't. When MUH POPULAR VOTE was the hot thing to bandwagon and virtue signal, every libtard normalfag under the sun was parroting it.
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>>79125932
>Honestly you're arguing that you want your country to be a fundamentally different country from what it is and what it was designed to be.

Nope, I'm just arguing that we should amend the Constitution like we've done several times in the past.
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>>79125726

>Actual Nazis deserve far, far worse than a punch in the face.

Like high paying jobs at NASA?
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>>79125716
>they have more people
And they do get more points. Problem?
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>>79125932
Question: if we are keeping the EC system so as to gel with the FF's intent, why didn't we keep the system that they actually designed?
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>>79125932
>No. YOUR countries law, it's very fabric, as defined by it's founders, says that.

have you not been following at all? I am not arguing that the electoral college is somehow illegal, I am saying I dont like the system
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>>79125953
Hillary has a 98% chance of winning

>>79125954
That story has been proven time and time again. 3 million illegals voted this time around. Did you miss Obama encouraging them to do it?
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>>79125954
Don't worry, Trump is going to spend millions on an investigation that will reveal around 1,000 or so fake votes.

Fiscal conservatives will applaud his bravery.
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>>79125981
yes problem, they get less points per capita
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>>79125993
We've already proven you don't understand how polls work, nor do you understand the difference between 98% and 100%
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>>79125992
It's not that you don't like the system, you don't like that your Cunt in Chief lost. Get the fuck over it loser
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>>79125836

No I didn't.

But they do.
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>>79125969
and you know this despite your lack of social network accounts?
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>>79126018
We've already proven you're a gullible fucktarded redditor that believes mainstream Fake Polls

>>79126035
Because that shit bleeds elsewhere and normalfags are extremely predictable
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>>79125932
You do realize the modern electoral college is drastically different than it was in the founder's time, right?
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>>79125993
> 3 million illegals voted this time around

are you sure? people were saying 800k last week, and 5 million the week before
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>>79125977
Also the ability to fund anti-US government groups in the US with their billions of dollars acquired from destroying 3rd world counties' currencies

(((soros)))
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>>79126039
How so?

>>79126046
What "people"?
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>>79126038
so I am to believe you, someone who just got reactions that 'bled through' over reactions I saw with my own eyes?

all because you use hot buzzwords like 'libtard' and 'fucktard'?

ps. no one else in this thread talks like you. You have way too many posts here compared to anyone else, why are you so upset? its really sad!
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>>79126053
>What "people"?

people who believe illegal immigrants voted in large numbers, who else?
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>>79126038
Once again, namecalling isn't an argument.
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>>79126014
Giving them too many more would allow them to overpower smaller states even more than they already do. You need to cover over half the countries geographical range in red to counter just a tenth of the land in blue, as ews proven by the last election. Just tally counties individually and you'll see.
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>>79126067
You realize the libtardest and fucktardest social media posts end up getting posted here, right? We laugh our asses off at you absolute retards.

What stings more, that you're a conformist sheep only concerned with what's popular with your fellow sheep, or the fact you're too stupid and indoctrinated to realize it? Sad!
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>>79126021
It's both, actually.

I'll get over it when we adopt a system that is actually democratic. Until then, you can just get used to having it pointed out that your retard was only elected because of a welfare system for red states.
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>>79125842

>So did slavery, but we changed that once we realized it was wasn't working.

Do you have a source on it being ended because it wasn't working?

I assumed it was stopped because it was considered immoral.

>despite the general tenant behind voting being, "Get the most votes and you win."

Which is exactly what happened?

The U.S. is a collection of individual states. Trump got the most votes in the most states. Again, you simply don't understand how the U.S. nation works.

>The single most richest state whether it terms of GDP or median household income voted for Clinton. You don't get a participation trophy for third.

...Well, you do. It's called a Bronze Medal in many competitions.

Also, how is that relevant? You said failing states. They're objectively not failing.

Again - You're now stating you want...governance by the richest state?

Why not simply decide your presidency by choosing the richest man? Or weigh votes based on income?

>It's a tool to prevent the will of the people overturning the will of the elite.

That's not entirely wrong, since the original laws and principals that it was designed to protect were written by the elite.

But so what - You just said you want rule by the elite.

>It was a tool designed to keep the rabble from overwhelming the ballots are choosing a ruinous, charismatic populist with no experience or qualifications to be President.

...and yet Trump won, and you said it was owing to this system? You are being contradictory.

>The Constitution has been amended before, it can be amended again.

Sure. And there are provisions within the constitution to allow that. So what are you crying about?
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>>79126088
The general consensus among those people is roughly 3 million illegals voted in the election, so I think you pulled those numbers out of your ass.

>>79126092
Ask me how many fucks I give, fucktarded redditor?
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>>79126109
>What stings more, that you're a conformist sheep only concerned with what's popular with your fellow sheep, or the fact you're too stupid and indoctrinated to realize it? Sad!

He says from deeply within the recesses of his echochamber.
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>>79126120
Actually democratic? You mean like a system in which every state gets a certain amount of votes proportionate to their population size and to win the states votes you have to win the popular vote? O wait...
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>>79126135
>Do you have a source on it being ended because it wasn't working? I assumed it was stopped because it was considered immoral.

Not the same guy, but slavery gave the south undue economic power over the northern states. Abolishing it allowed for a more event playing field. It wasn't working because a significant portion of the country was getting rich without actually having to work for it, and the rest of the country was subject to their demands.
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>>79126138
>He says from deeply within the recesses of his echochamber.

He says before returning to his reddit echochamber where he and his fellow fucktards will remind themselves Plurmpf is not our President and madam Klanton won the popular vote
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>>79125970

Why should you amend it? Just for fun?

>why didn't we keep the system that they actually designed?

Same reason you did and do and want to do lots of things that go against their wishes - Because people get mad or want something different and can organized enough people to make a change.

>>79125992

>I don't like the system

Well leave?

Leaving would be easier and carry a higher chance of success than changing the system.

Canada is pretty close.

If you're a fan of more direct democracies, there is Switzerland. Of course, being a much more democratic system they are much more xenophobic and insular.
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>>79126120
>allowing California to decide the fate of the rest of the country is a more democratic system than ensuring every state matters
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>>79125994

Well, as liberals said when they dropped millions on fantasies about Russian Hackers - When it comes to voter integrity, no expense is too large.
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>>79126204
Canada is too white. He should move to Mexico and prove he isn't a racist.
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>>79126135
>Do you have a source on it being ended because it wasn't working?

It's called the The 13th Amendment.

>I assumed it was stopped because it was considered immoral.

Then you're an idiot, there are several reasons why it was stopped. Morality alone very rarely determines anything in politics.

>The U.S. is a collection of individual states. Trump got the most votes in the most states. Again, you simply don't understand how the U.S. nation works.

No, Trump got the most votes in some states. Clinton also got the most votes in some states. When you tally all these votes together, Clinton got the most by a considerable margin.

I understand how the U.S. nation works. What I don't understand is why you can't tell the difference between critisizing a system and not understanding it. Probably your public school education.

>...and yet Trump won

And so the system clearly no longer works in the way it was intended. Time for a change.

>Sure. And there are provisions within the constitution to allow that. So what are you crying about?

I'm not crying about anything, I'm saying we should change it. The only one acting emotional is you.

Hey, I think we should change a few things about the way we elect people.
>HUH? HUH? WHY ARE YOU CRYING? TRUMP WON. TRUMP WON. STOP CRYING. 8 YEARS
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>>79126039

>You do realize the modern electoral college is drastically different

It's not though. The general operation is the same, and it's just around how selectors are chosen (which are almost a formality) that has seen a big change.

It still works towards it's intended purpose.
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>>79126223
>fantasies

really
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>>79126165
No, I mean a democratic system. You know, in which every one's vote counts the same, and the influence of your own vote isn't tied into how your district as a whole votes?

Not whatever hell scenario you just described.
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>>79126168

But that's not an argument for it's efficiency or not.

That's a moral argument. By your own admission it was working exceedingly well.
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>>79126204
>Why should you amend it? Just for fun?

Because when there are millions of people voting for someone, and the system essentially tells them to go fuck themselves, then something is wrong.

But also because as a liberal in a red state, I would like for my vote to actually matter.
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>>79126204
>Well leave?

Don't need to when there is a perfectly legal way to amend the Constitution.

>>79126208
>the electoral college ensure every state matters

Tell me how the electoral college ensures South Carolina or Vermont matters.
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>>79126053
>How so?

Used to be that A) Electors casted two votes, one of which had to be for an out-of-state candidate B) the candidate with a majority became president and the runner up became Vice President, and electoral votes were not assigned via a winner take all system that rewarded all of a states electoral votes to the winner of the state's popular vote.
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>>79126223
That was the green party. Not "the left". It was the definition of a fringe movement.

It would be like me blaming all Trump supporter for something I read on Stormfront.
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>>79126299
It's not a moral argument.
It's an argument about the efficiency of the United States as a whole.

It worked out fine for the South, it did not work out fine for Washington.
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>>79126366
Meh, if it worked that way then it was stupid. Trump wouldn't be President under that system.

Glad we changed it. Voter-take all is necessary when there are so many minorities.
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>>79126260

>It's called the The 13th Amendment.

The 13th amendment doesn't say anything about it working well or not.

>Then you're an idiot, there are several reasons why it was stopped.

I'm aware of that. The argument given by the people who passed the bill was framed by moral arguments, not arguments of whether it "worked" or not, as you argued.

>No, Trump got the most votes in some states.

Incorrect. Trump got the most votes, in the most states. Trump won more states than Clinton, and he won them by getting more votes. Clinton got more votes in total, entirely from her large margin in California.

>What I don't understand is why you can't tell the difference between critisizing a system and not understanding it.

Because you've repeatedly shown you don't actually understand your system or why it exists. You preface your statements with;

>It should

Which indicates you believe the system is incorrectly implemented, or that you believe your opinion is an objective fact.

You statements should have been preceded by "I think".

>And so the system clearly no longer works in the way it was intended.

Precisely my point. The system is working as intended. And Trump won.

Your mind is all over the place. You can't seem to decide if you want the system replaced because it is fundamentally wrong, or if you think it has been broken and needs to be fixed or as in your last argument, where you state it's working as intended, but the result is wrong (which makes no sense).

>
I'm not crying about anything, I'm saying we should change it. The only one acting emotional is you.

Then why are you making emotional, irrational, confused statements?

>Hey, I think we should change a few things about the way we elect people.

That would be how you should have framed it originally, yes.
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>>79126270
It's intended purpose was to give states a more equal say in the matter and to defend the republic from the whims of the people if need be. The modern system does the opposite. Making a winner takes all system of assigning votes puts all the power in the hands of a handful of states, and binding electors to a vote defeats the purpose of having electors at all. If they can't act on their own accord then why do we need them?
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>>79126284

Delusions?
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>>79126327

>Because when there are millions of people voting for someone, and the system essentially tells them to go fuck themselves, then something is wrong.

WHAT is wrong?

Your system is designed to prevent majority/mob rule.

>But also because as a liberal in a red state, I would like for my vote to actually matter.

Why should your vote matter more than another voters?

Or move to another state, as your system intends?
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>>79126372

So what is the left?

Because the DNC supported it, as did national media outlets like CNN, and international outlets like The Guardian.

>It would be like me blaming all Trump supporter for something I read on Stormfront.

Which wouldn't be unusual. The majority of the left blame Trump supporters for imaginary scenarios and beliefs, let alone real beliefs espoused on sites that no doubt contain Trump supporters.
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>>79126530

>Making a winner takes all system of assigning votes puts all the power in the hands of a handful of states, and binding electors to a vote defeats the purpose of having electors at all. If they can't act on their own accord then why do we need them?

Not all of them are bound.

Not all states are winner takes all.

>puts power in the hands of a handful of states

This is based on the assumption that you have fixed, immovable states that can't waver from DNC or GOP ever, and some swing states. Trump won the majority of states, not a handful.
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>>79123025
He's much cuter than the girl anyway
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90% chance they'll meet the same fate.
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>>79126652
To be clear, I'm not challenging Trump's win. But all but two states use the winner take all system. And it isn't that it is necessarily impossible to change a state, the current system definitely doesn't encourage it. Trump himself said he only focused on strategic states, and that sort of thing is normal. I'm not against the idea of having some form of barrier to protect the smaller states, but I also feel that every vote should count for something. It is shitty that Republicans in California and Democrats in Texas are functionally stripped of their voting power. It encourages voter apathy, and it also encourages candidates to focus their efforts in specific states. If you are going to be the President of everyone then you should campaign to everyone.
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>>79126865
>>79126943
Quality posts
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>>79126903
Trump's going to retire to Argentina and happily live out his days drawing Doujinshi?
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>>79127043
>enjoying nice, vanilla doujin
>watersports out of nowhere

Every fucking time!
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>>79127011
Thanks
>tfw ywn punch some nazis with froggo
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>>79127177
Inglorious Basterds II - Brad Pitt rescues Froggo from Auschwitz and together they kill a hundred Nazis.
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