>you know what really surprised me? It wasn't meeting

but it's emotional. bitches love that shit.

>>79110826
agreed, worst part of the flick

>>79110826
There is no question that that is a cheesy ass line, no matter do you like the movie or not.

I even saw some normies rolling their eyes at this scene in the cinema.
It's just so jarring compared to the rest of the dialogue.

Well yeah, i'd rather fuck Amy Adams then a tentacle monster too.

>spend life looking outward
>find something worth a fuck nearby

To be fair, the movie mangled that pretty hard. Like everything else it did.

>>79110921
>not wanting to get prostate prodded and anally gaped by tentacle monsters

Lol get a load of this fag

>>79110826
the movie is about human beings, how how petty we are. Here we have aliens landing, them actually making contact with us, but people cannot work together. instead they nearly start a global war.

Amy Adams has been deeply touched by the events of the movie, but it's not the aliens she thinks about, but rather her child.

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>>79110826
>they're not talking, they're bumping Bobby shmurder
Really makes you think

>>79110826
>frumpy looking
Do NOT speak that way about mommy!

What emotional baggage?

>the dumb radio internet guy is Alex Jones
>the soldiers that fuck everything up are supposed to be /pol/
really makes you think.

>>79110826
>finding love in a world you thought you were going to face alone for the rest of your life
Nigga that is more important than aliens

>>79111084
exactly, without someone to love everyone is alien

>>79111084
Not really tbqh w/ u famalam

>>79110921
that's because you're a normie

>>79111062
>implying /pol/ is capable of executing an infiltration scheme on this scale
Nah they'd just sit at home and post about how the aliens are actually jews

>>79111111
>without someone to love everyone is alien
how fucking cheesy. a waste of digits to be quite honest

>>79111111
nice numbers

nice post

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>>79111111
Nuoh my god.

>>79111111
HOLY MOTHER OF GOD WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THOSE ALIEN NUMBERS

>>79111111
literally crying bros

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>>79111111
Intergalactic checked

>>79110826
>lets make a baby

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>you want to make a baby?

mfw they actually put that line in the movie

>>79110826
it was a fucking pickup line dude, this is why you have no gf

>>79111111
i feel like i should reply to this post, so you can get repeating digits in the past.

>>79111188
>>79111199
exactly what i'd say if i wanted a babby

>>79111188
Why would he phrase it like that? Did he also know the future? Was that his pickup line with her? Would that work in a bar?

>>79110826
>frumpy looking redhead
I sincerely wish pain and pestilence upon yoru diseased body

>>79111228
Dumbass. What you actually say is "oh no yeah I'm totally wearing a condom"

>>79111238
Dumb fucks, he said it in the future.

>>79111228

babbys first babby

>>79111257
i think
>oh no yeah i'm totally on birth control
happens way more often tbqhwy

>>79110826
Look you guys are fucking retarded. This movie isn't about "aliens" It's about the fucking Chinese.

Wow what a strange language you mean they are an exotic race who communicate using pictograms unrelated to their spoken language?
Wow you mean their language has a strange nonlinear conception of time?
Wow you mean General Sheng enounters the "aliens" with the rest of humanity but they are able to play a fucking game of mahjong? Wouldn't you need to have pretty advanced communication to explain those rules?

It's only assumed that the Chinese taught the "aliens" to play mahjong. And they never even tell you who won the game. You know why? The Heptapods are actually Asians. From the future. Sent to ensure their own survival.

There's no fucking proof that the Heptapods even exist. They are just the final stage of the evolution of the Chinese people.

There's a phrase in ancient China; wansui. It literally means 10,000 years. The Chinese people have told themselves since the beginning of their society that they will live for 10,000 years. This is not arrogance. This is just them stating facts. The Chinese people KNOW this is what will happen because they have seen the future and they are not bounded by our linear system of time.

It's so fucking obvious but you people are fucking morons.

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>>79110826
>writing things in circles makes you able to see the future
>the "love transcends spacetime" thing again

bravo, nolan does it again

>>79111302
Don't know about that unless the guy has money. Who wants to be a single mom?

>>79111334
i enjoyed both of this things

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>>79110826
>you made quick work of those insurgent video tapes
>you made quick work of those insurgents

>>79111368
They found employment for the insurgents in a short amount of time?

>>79111368
>she translated a jihad video once
>samuel jackson thinks that means she can instantly translate alien noise with no frame of reference

>>79111417
you've never met people in the military

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You're a big alien

>>79111354
lots of women actually want that

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>>79111308
chinese people already look like aliens, and their diet consists mainly of living squids. i guess it's not a farfetched scenario.

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>>79111290
Are you saying he was able to time travel into the future to tell her that line, but he really time traveled into the present moment and the movie was actually the past?

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>>79110826
To be honest with all the cheesy lines going around the movie did mess me up tho sempais. All the tripping she had imagining that past life and whatever was going on.

And the ost during the first part of the movie when they were first going up the alien ship was really hunting.

The movie deserves all the praise hands down. At the moment pirating Sicario and Prisoners from the same director, he looks based.

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>>79110826
>it's another 4chan autist with no gf gets trigged by the mention of love in a sci-fi movie episode
Getting tired of these desu

>>79111667
About to watch prisoners and fucking sicario for the first time.

im so jelly

BUCKLE UP

>>79111650
No you cunt, she was having flash-forwards the whole time, he is the future father of the future child that will die and she had a flash-forward to him saying it in the future! Reeeeeeee

>>79111754
Yeah I recently finished The Enemy from him as well. Really good stuff.

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>>79111757
But if that stuff didn't happen yet then how did the aliens know that she called the general and made everyone work together? Did the aliens travel forward in time?

>>79111837
Prisoners is really great, Sicario is a masterpiece of the genre

So why did they divorce in the future again?

>>79111954
[autistic screeching]

>>79111988
She tells him the kid is doomed, he cant handle it, exactly as she remembers. It has will have already happened.

>>79111308
Wang pls

>>79111308
they would be Japanese now if we didn't save their asses

>>79112036
So there is no free will.

>>79111954

It's a movie about linguistic determinism becoming tied into temporal determinism coupled with the ability to experience events in your life out of order. Figure it out.

>>79112147
She "chose" to have the baby because she loved her daughter. To be fair, is not a choice at all, she would have always chosen to have her, even with the premature death. So no, appearance of free will but no free will. The future is deterministic (already happen in one way only) in that universe.

>>79111055
Her future dead kid

>>79111308
>"All warfare is based on deception."
-Sun Tzu

>>79112147
No

>>79110826

is about love, when you fall in love with someone they become the most important thing in your life

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>>79112192

>>79112147
Yes, she will have did already made will make the choice. Whether the choice was past or future makes no difference, a choice was will be made

Why did she not try to find a cure for her daughter?

>>79112595
Fuck you

>>79112595
there was no cure, it was "unstoppable".

Biggest disappointment since Interstellar

>>79112881
pls elaborate so we can laugh at you

>>79112943
dude it was so deep if you think about it man

>>79112986
your memeing is highly valued and appreciated

Right so I understood the flash forwards and that her kid was the scientists and she made the decision in the past for her daughter to be born just to die anyway because she saw it all and all that shit.

But somebody please explain to me how learning a language made her see into the future?

>>79113028
I know the consequences but we are human y'know man it's like we do it for free but we love eachother man that's life man hey guess what i told ya but guess what I'll see ya in 3000 years bro!

>>79113090
>How do the guns work?
>Why is the axe handle curved?

>>79113090
when you immerse yourself into a language it rewires your brain

>>79110908
how the fuck did you see someone roll their eyes in a dark theatre


GOID I FUCKING AH TE NTHIS BOARD

>she gets picked up alone by aliens
>after some time hey release her and she's behaving unusually
>all the soldiers pass by her and no one seems to suspect her being brainwashed or something and just let her back into the best

>>79113090
don't ask questions anon

just praise it like the rest of us before people start asking questions about us

>>79113199
>into the base*

>>79113199
>all the soldiers pass by her and no one seems to suspect her being brainwashed or something and just let her back into the best

sounds like the military to me

>she's invited into the alien's room
>alien ejaculates something
>looks like she's orgasming
>she becomes pregnant
>she says to her daughter that she's special
>she admits something to ian, so he gets angry and leaves

wait a sec...

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>>79110826
and this is why you're a virgin

>>79113090
>But somebody please explain to me how learning a language made her see into the future?

It's all based around a hypothesis in linguistic determinism which states the language you speak and think in determines the ways in which your brain works fundamentally, and that becoming immersed enough into a foreign language can essentially reprogram your brain to think in different ways. So it goes something like this:

>Human language is linear, humans think and experience everything in a linear fashion
>Squid language is nonlinear, squids think and experience everything in a nonlinear fashion
>Human starts to learn squid language and allows self to become deeply immersed in it
>Squid language slowly allows human's brain to process things in nonlinear ways
>Turns out time isn't necessarily linear, and now the human can experience time in a nonlinear manner because her brain isn't shackled by the trappings of her native linear language

This is literally all explained in the movie and you should feel bad for not paying attention.

>a bunch of retarded soldiers are put on guard duty on possibly the most important location to ever been guarded
>somehow manage to put explosives up the alien ship without anyone noticing
All the retarded shit that happen in this movie don't even make me feel like commenting about it.

>>79113373
you expect way too much from the military

>>79113373
Honestly they didn't even have a checkpoint or cameras around the entrance or anything. They literally just left it unguarded for 17 hours a day for anyone to drive up to and do whatever they wanted.

Plus how were they allowed on the internet to watch Alex Jones if they weren't even allowed to call their families on cell phones?

>>79113349
That still makes no sense? The future is the future, how would you be able to "think" about things that are going to happen?

>>79113485
its only the future in a linear timeline

>>79113485
She's experiencing her entire lifetime at once is the way I understand it.

>>79113513
Right so teaching the brain to not think linearly still allows humans to know everything that's going to happen? They don't really correlate

>>79113485
it's science-fiction. linguistic relativity is a neat concept, but the movie went full retard.

>>79113540
its not about thinking. she experienced her timeline non linearly

Why couldn't Hawkeye know the future? He was there just as long as Mom looking at the jackson pollock fart language

>>79113513
Also, if everyone learnt the language, everyone would know he outcome of literally everything in life?

>>79113540
Well maybe the movie states that time itself is non-linear, we only perceive it (with our brains) and our lives to be linear from beginning to end. When her brain changes, she can fully perceive time for what it really is. She can see her entire life laid out from beginning to end, or "move around" to see/experience different parts of it, using her brain.

>>79113611
yeah

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>>79113484
Ok guys hold everything up. You are all overthinking this joke of a movie way too much. The writer of nu-Nightmare on Elm Street and the prequel to The Thing wrote this shit. It's not brilliant, it's a blatant hack job. You got fooled by the pretty visuals the director managed to cobble up that this is a decent movie, it's not. You can't prove me wrong.

>>79113637
By learning a language?
>>79113656
That doesn't seem very great to be honest, also, if you could see where your life was going, could you change it? if you could change it and decided to change it wouldn't that change your timeline which means that was always your timeline in the first place?

This is why movies shouldn't fuck with time

>>79110826
I gave the movie a 7/10
Would have been an 8/10 if they had re-killed the daughter again at the end. Without the second death of the daughter, shown on the screen after you're aware that Amy knows it is going to happen in a different sense than in the beginning, the movie just lacked emotional catharsis.

Also the chemistry between them was fucking terrible.

They really just needed to kill the daughter again.

>>79113090
See:
>>79113349
Also you're a dumb ass if you simply "don't get it"

>>79113608
Because he wasn't a woman

>>79113746
>could you change it?

no. no free will

>>79113766
>Amy knows it is going to happen in a different sense than in the beginning

no she doesnt

>>79113746
>if you could see where your life was going, could you change it?
The scriptwriter literally said that was his intention with the script, so yes.

That makes him a retard though.

>>79113819
They should've come up with a different ending in all honesty. They just tried to be smart with some timeline bullshit.

>>79111111
F-FUCK YOU

>>79113746
Yes by learning a language.
Shut your trap for a second and try some introspection. Notice how your thought run through presumably in english? Notice how when you're writing something out, or saying something out, your train of thought is "collinear" with what you're writing or saying?

Have you even read 1984?
All "higher" mental processes occur in a language. That language may be math, that language may be english, or chinese, or it may be heptapod. There are people that speak mathematics and or physics well enough to consider time in a very different way than you're capable of. Why not a more linguistic language as well?

That is the premise.

I'm in a General Relativity class right now and I'm telling you, movies should most certainly fuck with time. It is one of the most under-explored frontiers of human experience.

>>79113818
Fugg I think you're right. Can you explain it though for me?
In the beginning they're showing the daught

>>79113818
Yeah you're right, but you know that she knows in a different sense. That is what I was trying to get at.

>>79113914
that scene would be the same whether they put it at the beginning or the end. they just put it at the beginning to make us think it was the beginning of the movie rather than a flashforward

they tricked us

>>79113914

If they showed the daughter's death a second time it would only help the viewer see it in a different light. But that's unnecessary.

>>79113958
In that way, the end ties in with the beginning, and makes a circle of the script, mimicking the alien language.

>>79114042
I wouldve preferred a goatse at the beginning of the movie to mimic the alien language

>>79114065
They didn't want the R-rating.

>>79114111
they couldve made it artistic like they did with the alien jizz goatse drawings that were continually shown throughout the movie

>>79113981
>If they showed the daughter's death a second time it would only help the viewer see it in a different light. But that's unnecessary.

Okay see this is where I disagree strongly.

The first death of the daughter is essentially the first scene of the movie. With it being so early on in the movie, the audience hasn't had any time to develop an emotional bond with Amy, or with the missing father for that matter. Sure it is emotional powerful, as any portrayal of a tragic cancer death is, but it isn't an optimized delivery.

This is film right? We're within reason to expect some degree of emotional excitement. Without a second showing of the daughters death, the movie seems to only have two real emotional highlights. First, the lackluster initial death that is presented far to early into the movie to garner any real emotional weight, and second, the explosion scene which was brilliant, albeit simply a moment of suspense.

The "recognition" to use a sci-fi/fantasy term that comes towards the end isn't really emotional as it is primarily a reconceptualization that serves to reframe our understanding of the earlier scenes and the first death.

A second death needed to be actually shown on screen to deliver the knockout. Sure you can infer that the first time you watched Amy watching her daughter die, you were watching Amy's pain over the course of 16 or however many years, but that isn't the same as actually seeing it again, possibly more drawn out and with more emphasis placed on Amy's choice.

They did that one scene where she kinda tells her daughter that she's going to die, but honestly that fell flat.

If I have any critique of the movie outside of the writing failing to include a second death, it is that Amy Adams, Jeremy Renner, and even Forest Whitaker for that matter weren't very good.

The scene when Jeremy is "confessing" his love for Louise, the camera isn't even on his face, presumably because Renner was too shitty to actually deliver.

>>79114042
Very good point.

Should have done the daughter's death again at the end. They tried to do the whole circular thing by repeating the opening shot of the lake house, but the bottom line is that there is far more emotion in the death of a the kid than in the lake house shot.

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>>79110826
>what do we do now?
>wait for them to Arrival(tm)

are u serious?

>>79114260
Amy Adams cant carry a movie. That is something I learned from Arrival

>>79114410
Agreed.
Acting was weak. Shame.

The sequence where they are entering the spaceship for the first time is perfect filmmaking imo

>>79110826
Am I the only person that found the fact a small Alien shuttle came into and then back out of the main alien ship with Amy Adams without anyone apparently noticing/caring one of the biggest plot-holes of all time? Like seriously an Alien ship is parked in your country but something like that slips past everyone's eyes?

>>79110826
She was so shitty in arrival. This bitch literally plays the same character, gerself in everything. Cannot act. Jlaw 2.0.

Good thing she looks like a freak on screen and is done.

>>79114646
>without anyone apparently noticing/caring

they certainly noticed

>>79114684
why was she just wondering around the station the moment she got back without anyone saying a word about it then?

>>79110826
It's called complementing/flirting

>>79114950
the entire base was worried about evacuating/defending the area because China was about to launch missiles

>>79112861
my dick is unstoppable :)

>>79115041
Yeah against Aliens on China's own territory, if they were worried about the Alien ships retaliating against the rest of the world because of it you think that would've given them more reason to keep a close eye on it, instead Amy Adams comes back from a small Alien pod no ones ever seen before and just seems to shrug there shoulders and go about there day

>>79115171
Amy Adams job was to figure out why they were there before China went ape shit. She failed so they moved on

>>79115219
yeah im sure if that happened in real life everyone would at the drop of a pin just immediately stop analyzing or looking anywhere near the giant mysterious Alien space ship that's been landed in American territory for over a month. c'mon you have to admit it was sloppy writing

>>79115357
I guess she could've went to the general guy and said something like "I need your satellite phone so I can call the Chinese General on his personal number and tell him his wife's dying words. The aliens gave me this power and it will stop the missile attack." Tho I don't think he would have given her the phone

>>79113608
Because his male privilege blinded him to the struggles of being an independent womyn. Men just aren't special like womyn are.

>>79110826
>with emotional baggage

Go watch again. You missed a very important but subtle plot point.

With this much solipsism and MUH FAMBLY shit I was astonished to see the screenplay wasn't by a woman

>>79111111
>exactly, without someone to love everyone is alien
>111111
>without someone to love
>1 = alone
D E E P

>>79113880

The brain exists in the physical world. Rewiring the brain to process things differently cant possibly cause it to somehow access things that it will process in the future. Its entirely possible for all of reality to be occurring simultaneously but your brain is part of that very same reality. Unless you think the brain, which only really exists as a concept within your own brain, exists outside of time, its simply not possible.

You lack a fundamental understanding of how reality works.

>>79119033
>Science
>Fiction

>>79119884

>i cant follow post chains

WANNA MAKE A BABY??

>>79113277
i honestly thought that is where it was going.

Did they show the aliens human reproduction in that room?

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>>79111033

movie is about a woman with a ticking clock and anxiety over having children

that's all.

>>79121156
cool image anon