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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Sobel
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What is this?
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HWHAT IS THE THE GODDAMN HOLDUP CAPTAIN SOBEL
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>>78955085

Can of peaches?
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I'm watching this atm, Jesus Christ he's a dick.
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and yet no one will remember your name OP
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>>78955660

Karma got him in the end
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>>78955085

Simon Pegg?
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>>78955866
Hoping so, last one I saw he turned up in a jeep and started acting like a dick again.
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>>78955660
He's a dick, but like every character in this brilliant show he's also insecure, scared, and almost pathetivally uncertain for the most part. I pity him, in the end. Also sad ending for him
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>>78955891
Everyone is in this goddamn show. Watching it back now is crazy.
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>>78955891
>>78955938

tfw Jimmy Fallon can't not look directly into the camera even in Band of Brothers

I guess we should be happy he didn't start giggling too...
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>>78955660
We literally won the war thanks to that guy.
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>its another bastogne episode in a studio forest with fake snow
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>>78955891
/our big guy/ is in it too, as a twink
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YOU GUYS NEED SOME AMMO
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>>78955660
Easy was great in part because of him you fucking pussy.

PIVOT
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LOL
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>>78955891
>>78955938
>>78955986

This company is bollocks
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>>78955990
No we didn't.
He also killed himself which is good.
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>In 1970, Sobel shot himself in the head with a small-caliber pistol.[9] The bullet entered his left temple, passed behind his eyes, and exited out the other side of his head. This severed his optic nerves and left him blind.[9] He was later moved to a VA assisted living facility in Waukegan, Illinois. He resided there for his last seventeen years until his death due to malnutrition on September 30, 1987.[9] No services were held for him after his death.[9]
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>>78955938

Who is that supposed to be?
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>>78955660
A Jew being a cock, what a shocker
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Miss me?
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>>78955660
WEEKEND PASS IS REVOKED
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>>78956065
Fuck off if you want a hugbox cunt.
The guy was a piece of shit and incompetent. Couldn't even kill himself properly
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>>78956071
Michael Fassbender
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>>78956139
He was angry all the time because a ginger was better than him at everything.
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>>78956179
Is this an implication that a ginger is better than me and that's why I'm "angry"?
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>>78956065
>17 years a cripple
jesus
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>>78956046
Pouty babby Bane
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>>78956202
If the shoe fits
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>>78955092
DAT DAWG AIN'T GON' HUNT!
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>>78956303
I want him to suck my dick desu.
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>>78956001
yeah sure want a beer?
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>>78956303
>one of the hottest guys in the world
>literally no jaw
Fuck this guy makes me want to find out what kind of magic getting in great shape could do for my jawline
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>>78956601
Grow a beard
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>>78956679
thats the cowards way out
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>>78955938
>>78956042
McAvoy and Fassbender are destined to be together forever
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>>78955046

>The One Where Ross Attempts Suicide By Shooting Himself In The Head With A Small-Calibre Pistol
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>>78956988

>The One Where Ross Severs His Optic Nerve And Lives As A Blind Man For Seventeen Years Due To His Own Incompetency
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>>78955085
Prime Schwimmer was really cute
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>>78957013

>The One Where Ross Dies From Malnutrition
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>>78957046

>The One Where They Don't Give Ross A Funeral
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PIVOT
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WHO WAS THE IDIOT WHO CUT THAT MAN'S FENCE
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sounds like he shoulda gone RED ROSS
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>>78956050
he didn't die after he shot himself.

he lived blind for 17 years after the failed attempt.

did you even bother to read the wiki?
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I just finished rewatching The Pacific a few days ago.

Seems like I have to do another run of BoB.
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>>78957094
Just realized I've watched BoB so much I can not only hear the exact tone of the way he says that but I also remember the background sounds too.
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>>78956065
>Can't use a map properly
>Can't use a gun properly

How did this guy get so far up the military chain?
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>>78956046
wasn't he a replacement?
he got to fuck qt germans too
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>>78957299
He was a good trainer.
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>>78957168
Thanks for reminding me I still need to watch The Pacific.

>Secretly hope it has less long as fuck battle scenes in than BoB
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>That concentration camp episode
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>>78957742
>that episode where they loot hitler's shit
>later they get so bored on standby for japan that someone dies from a drunken misfire
>nuke ends the war
died in vain
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>>78957797
wasn't it /bigguy/ himself who got shot?
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Would you follow Winters into battle?
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>>78955092
came to post this
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>>78957584
they are longer. Alot longer.

And more tiresome.

I dont know about The Pacific. It lacked heart, it lacked a core.

I know they went for a different tone than BoB, but I was mostly completely indiferent to what was happening on screen. I've seen enough depictions of the brutality of war, it just doesnt do anything for me and there are plenty of angles not yet explored in war movies.
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>>78957584
well you're in luck
>monkey's paw.jpg
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> In 1970, Sobel shot himself in the head with a small-caliber pistol.[9] The bullet entered his left temple, passed behind his eyes, and exited out the other side of his head. This severed his optic nerves and left him blind.[9] He was later moved to a VA assisted living facility in Waukegan, Illinois. He resided there for his last seventeen years until his death due to malnutrition on September 30, 1987.[9] No services were held for him after his death.[9]

Wtf?
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>>78957987
no he was in a car accident I thought
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Jesus, even a beardless Abraham was in this show.
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>>78958027
Is that a serious question? Would die for that man.
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>>78958165
I like both and I think the psychological suffering of both Lackey and Sledge is much better portrayed than anything of that sort in BoB.

BoB focuses less on individual soldiers and more on the entire Easy company and what it went through during the war.
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>>78959245
>tfw through generation shift and people watching trash tv more people now probably know him from TWD than from BoB
i'm happy he got another steady role on a big tv show but fuck
he'll always be Bull.
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>>78959514

I'll always know him from Beverly Hills 90210.
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>I'm the only one in my social circle who has seen all of BoB
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>>78959634
Looks like Sean Astin's big bro
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>>78955660
According to the book, most of the guys hated him but he had them so fit and ready they schooled their PT sarges after their time with Sobel.
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>>78958289
Yep it was a car accident
It's the scene where Webster replaces him on the road duty and as he's driving away an oil barrel falls off a passing truck, causing the car to crash
He wasn't a big enough guy
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>>78955938
Wow, Josh Homme?!
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>>78959634
>>78959514
Southland for me
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>>78956065
>using a .22 for self killing
Had he used a good ol'american foddyfive, he would had died twice, once from the shot and once from the blastwave
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>Curahee
https://youtu.be/6ZOJ0_sRznM
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>>78958027
>Would you follow Winters into battle?

Through the gates of Hell.
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>>78959245
no
A mustached Bull was in TWD
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>>78958027
if he truly was the leader portrayed in the series, abolutely. I'd fight and die with honor.
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>perfect mix of action, acting, dialogue, sound design, costume design, feels, etc.

will there ever be a more perfectly blended show that this?
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>>78956076
>/POL/
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>>78962420
I remember this being one of the first gifs I ever saw on here over a decade ago
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>>78957742
I wish they would've kept it non-fiction desu.
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>>78955046
holy shit, I need to watch this again.
bane, moriaty, and prof x are in it?
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>>78959245
>>78959514
>They don't know Officer John Cooper.
You have missed out on a masterpiece
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>>78962875
you watch BoB closely enough, and you will see every single damn actor to come up in the last decade at some point
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This daddy's flyboy was in the show too
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>>78959420
I'd die for pretty much anything, just give me a shotgun and point me in the right direction.
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>tfw even though Sobel was a dick he got them so fit that it helped them earn their infamous reputation by having the stanima to pull off the impossible

Reminds me of Barnes and Elias in Platoon
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>In 1970, Sobel shot himself in the head with a small-caliber pistol.[9] The bullet entered his left temple, passed behind his eyes, and exited out the other side of his head. This severed his optic nerves and left him blind.[9] He was later moved to a VA assisted living facility in Waukegan, Illinois. He resided there for his last seventeen years until his death due to malnutrition on September 30, 1987.[9] No services were held for him after his death.[9]
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>>78962939
so was Markie Mark's brother and he pulled this face a lot
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>>78962880
Just how good of a T1000 would he have been?
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>>78962946
It's not an excuse for Sobel being absolute shit tier human being, these types of trainers are incredibly dangerous to unit morale and performance.

It just so happened he got the RNG right and the people under his training were all top notch specimens so he couldn't fuck it up that badly.
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>>78962959
for what its worth he was pretty good in it, his entire episode was

>huntington? never heard of it
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>>78962959
Oh what that's his brother? They do look a lot like each other but I never thought of that.
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>>78961208
Do you even know what Josh Homme looks like?
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>>78956065
He didn't deserve that...
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>>78956050
He was what made Easy company so great.
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>>78956094
He looks exactly the same, what the fuck
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>>78958027
I like Winters, he's a good man, but when the bullets start flying, I don't know if I want a Quaker doing my fighting for me.
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>>78955046


He was the hero we needed, but not the one we deserved.

Winters and all of Easy were the soldiers they were because Sobel gave them something to hate and something to unify against. They pushed themselves beyond their limits not for love of country, but for hate of Sobel and not wanting to give him the satisfaction of seeing them fall short.

Whether he meant to do so or not, he was directly responsible for forging Easy into the company they were.
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>>78958027


I'd gladly spearhead a charge through the gates of Hell itself for that man.
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>>78956139
He was excellent at training, all the men agreed they wouldn't have been as well prepared for war if it wasn't for Sobel even if they didn't like him. IIRC one of the men tried to get him to meet up with the guys after the war but Sobel refused.
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>>78962939
Hey, it's Apollo!
>>78957987
Hardy was the only guy in BoB to get laid.
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>>78955609
No, it's United States Army property... your weekend pass is cancelled
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>>78955660
Easy was what it was thanks to this guy
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>>78955092
A fence sir, aaa... (God dammit)..... a barbwire fence sir
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>>78965258
I'm a Jew
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>Y'all got any more of them plasma?
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>>78965258
.....the prick is a son of Abraham
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>>78966312
>>78966312

partially, yes, all of it, no
they were physically fit but they obviously didn't learn any field tactics from him
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>>78965570
>>78965570

you mean training them at being physically fit? because how can he train them in field combat tactics and what not if he was so damn incompetent himself?
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>>78962880
>>78962880

i really wished the show was a lot more successful, it was a fucking awesome show!
too bad got cancelled, now we'll never know what happens to Cooper
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>>78965312
>>78965312

except you neglected to mention they were all smart and competent men in the field who knew combat tactics and what not, Sobel couldn't even get the right directions down and cutted a farmer's fence, that's pretty incompetent to me
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>>78955046
is band of brothers worth watching?
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>>78966437
So what?!!? Now move outta my face!!!!
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>>78966927
Yes.
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>>78962210
He was supposedly even more based irl.
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>>78966927
nah dont bother its shit
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>>78967024
>b8
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>>78966927
Yup. Its pretty great. I watch it annually.
I'd love to see a miniseries like this set in the eastern front.
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>>78955085
hey, its that kind from friends

which episode is that?
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airforce bob when, they teased that shit ages ago and still no news
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>>78967023
How is that possible?
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>>78967460
stuffs that happened that's too hard to believe for TV audiences
same shit happened with audie murphy's biopic
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>>78967483
Like what?
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>>78956065
>death due to malnutrition
Holy shit
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>>78967483
Just googled him a little and read that he mounted a burning carcass on a tank and mowed down a hundred germans.
So is Fury loosely based on him?
Was that final scene actually somewhat realistic?
When I watched it I thought it was utterly ridiculous.
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>>78967811
fury happens in proper germany, holtzwihr is in Alsace/France
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>>78967970
Hence why I used loosely.
I'm watching To Hell and Back right now, so maybe the official biopic won't be as ridiculous.
It's just hard to imagine shit like that really happens.
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Watch "unsere mütter unsere väter" / generation war

cry twice as much
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>>78965258
I'm not a Quaker
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>>78967460

same goes for spears. guy was tough as nails.
the scene where he runs through the german fotified positions to make contact with the other platoon is not even exaggerated
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LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT LEFT

PIVOT

PIVOT
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>>78961271
Underrated show
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>>78955085
>>78955938
>>78955986
>>78956046

had no idea these nerds were in Band, and Iv'e seen it like 4 times
>granted, last time was over 5 years ago
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MY PEACHES?
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>>78969139
Even Combo was in it
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>>78956042

That's pretty cool.

His new movies looks pretty good too
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>>78969204
*Al Capone
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>>78969204

Dags?
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I still don't get how this fucking guy ended up being President of the United States.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxcdE-sim6c
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>>78969204
>When he gets busted down to Private for telling the higher ups how shit Sobel was

Still angry.
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>>78969302
Its the chin
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>>78959481
I really enjoyed The Pacific, but I was already familiar Sledge's book and knew it was going to be a journey into darkness without the heroics.
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>>78969404
both the Pacific and Sledge's book were quite a turds tho
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>>78963202
Donnie is the superior actor clearly, loved him in the Bastion episodes. But he pretty much does this turn head and look distraught face, every scene he is in.
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>>78969454
it weren't a turds
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>>78969454
YOU'RE A TURDS
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You guys do realize that winters had a major axe to grind with many of the people he daughter with and made no bones that he wanted to fuck their reputation up. 100% of band of brothers comes from interviews which can't always be trusted. Winters was good but there were better unit commanders, Stephen ambrose just happened to write about this one.
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airborne troops were a expensive mistake
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>>78956094
The more you know!
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>>78957299
>>Can't use a map properly
>>Can't use a gun properly

Implying these aren't requirements for becoming an officer
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>>78970431
thats the NCO's job
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>>78970258
What are you trying to say?
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>>78968022
>maybe the official biopic won't be as ridiculous.
Anon, they literally toned down the movie because the studio was afraid no one would believe that one man was so based.
The movie of his life is LESS INTERESTING than his actual life.
On amazon theres a doc about the leadership memorial in normandy where winters was the model for the statue. About half of the doc is just talking about winters, with interviews with him and the other men. Dude was pretty based.
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>>78967970
Alsace belongs to Deutschland!
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>>78970258
Anon take your meds and then try to talk to us again
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>>78971350
feel free to fight and lose another world war over it anytime Fritz
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>>78960797
>hate him for petty shit like the can of peaches
>trying to teach them the importance of discipline so they have a better chance of surviving the shit
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>>78971392
>Telling the men the run is cancelled due to rain and making them eat spaghetti
>Reinstating the run on purpose so that they will all throw up the only decent meal they've had in months

They hated him because of shit like that.
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>>78962979
>best of the best from the training crop are sent to airborne
>he got lucky

He pushed those SOBs so hard because he knew despite their bitching that they could take it.
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>>78971448
The lesson was never trust your superiors to know/tell the truth, never leave yourself unable to perform in a combat scenario and too many carbs will kill you in a run.

I don't want to come off as the Sobel Defense Force but all of their suffering in physical training was to their long term benefit. If Sobel could have figured out a way to PT some artillery resistance into them he would have.
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>Damian Lewis
>Donnie Wahlberg
>Michael Cudlitz
>Neal McDonough
>Michael Fassbender
>Tom Hardy
>Simon Pegg
>Dominic Cooper
>Jimmy Fallon
>James McAvoy
>Tom Hanks

fuark
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>>78971587
>Tom Hanks
he wasn't in it, he was a producer
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>>78962420
>he thinks there won't be a super comfy BoB following a Wehrmacht platoon

The pendulum is swinging back my friend.
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>>78971612
wasn't Colin Hanks in it though
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>>78971612
he is
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>that scene at the end where they're all playing baseball and Winters describes their lives after the war
>that scene with the german commander addressing his men for the final time
Pure fucking kino
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>>78971703
why did he play a brit
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>>78971690
Yes. He was the new officer in the episode where ant man comes back from medical leave. The one where they cross the river at night on a hostage raid.
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>>78956001
Worst part of the series. It makes me angry everytime to see his ratface
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>you know I was in a band back home?
>a band?
>Yea, me and my brothers
>A band of brothers?

Walked out of my living room.
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>>78971799
THEY SAID THE NAME OF THE SHOW
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>>78958027
I cried when they interview him and he told his grandkids' "are you a hero?" story.
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>>78971628
There's a german series in english called "generation war". It's quite good. They were good boys they dindu nuffin
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>>78971799
kek

>So Nazi Germany is cornered by russians and americans and brits.
>This platoon will be fighting a tougher enemy, the Japanese, in THE PACIFIC
uninstalled windows immediately
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>>78971718
Who DOESN'T want to play a Brit, especially a Commando/Tank Crew?
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I can't be bothered to find it, so can someone post the link that explains how Sobel was the good guy and Winters is actually a massive cunt for the shit he spoke about him.
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>>78969454
Fuck off faggot
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>>78972083
This. Brits had the best hats.
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