Is traveling in Mexico safe? I'm white as fuck and

>the most traveled destination by white people
>asking if English-speaking white people are safe there
Really nigga?

In all seriousness, I have heard that it's only safe in the tourist areas. If you're one of those RealTraveler™ types, then you might have a hard time exploring outside of resorts and marketplaces.

>>1255081

Just spent the last two weeks travelling around the Yucatan peninsula and I never felt unsafe at any point, even wondering around Merida alone at night after a shed load of mezcal.

I'm white with barely any any Spanish too, btw

>>1255081
just like anywhere it depends on the area, but if you stay in relatively safe cities / parts of town you should be fine

>>1255081
buy yourself an escort for the time you're there

>hot girl everywhere
>local

win-win

>>1255091
They're too pricey. Many prices match those in the US now without adjusted 4 local living cost so I can't.

If I knew the location of some place where locals go However I would.

>>1255081
Spent the night with a girl that looked just like that in Buzios, brazil. Her mom encouraged us, which was kind of weird.

>>1255093
You have the dollars and bargaining power. Play hardball.

If you stay either in central big cities (Mexico City, Monterrey, etc.) or in touristy beaches, you'll be fine
The whole yucatan peninsula is very safe, as well as most of the southern beaches.

If you go to the northern states, the "inbetween" areas, or basically anywhere else that's not crowded with white tourists or expats, you do run a very, very big risk.

Mexico's day-to-day affairs are not controlled by law, like the USA is. Mexico in this way is controlled by money and power. And "power" in Mexico means "he who has the biggest, baddest guns"

I travelled for two months all over the southern Mexican states, put 11000 km on the rental car, never had any problems and went to isolated areas, beaches, jungles by myself. Some of the bars I went to were kinda sketchy but still had no problems. Got stared at all the time. sotra like being the only black guy at a klan meeting. I'm white tho and only half speak the lingo.

Spent the whole winter camping on beaches all over baja.
In 3000 miles of driving i had not one problem

>>1255095
>Her mom encouraged us, which was kind of weird.
Money makes people do weird things.

>>1255098
>You have the dollars and bargaining power. Play hardball.
Doesn't work that way. They won't even come to your hotel unless you offer something on par with what everyone else is giving up

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>>1255196
Everything has a price in this life, friend. It can be worth it though. If you're somewhat charming and not fat/ugly you can get discounts. They prefer working than not working cause money.

>>1255127
>Mexico's day-to-day affairs are not controlled by law, like the USA is. Mexico in this way is controlled by money and power. And "power" in Mexico means "he who has the biggest, baddest guns"

Where did you hear this bullshit? I'm from Mexico and obviously I don't have to carry a gun in order to live my life.
OP, just avoid poor neighborhoods at night and use Uber so the taxi don't trie to rip you off.

>>1255086
Merida is easily the safest city in Mexico, Yucatan is also somewhat chill, it's a good destination.

>>1255333
Look at 2016-2017 data, and it isn't anymore, drug trading routes are changing since the last couple of years have seen a number of really big detentions, and pre-existing deals are renewed through extreme violence. The fall of the Sinaloa Cartel, the Zetas and the "Templar Knights", plus the raise of Jalisco New Generation cartel has shifted violence a lot. And places that used to be safe-heavens aren't safe at all anymore.

The fact that neither of you noticed just goes to show that you will never see those disputes unless you involve yourself directly in the fighting.

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I lived in Mexico for 4 years. Yes it is safe. Just don't step on anyone's toes. If you want danger, come visit Honduras.

It's perfectly fine. Guys even ride bicycles all through the country and don't get into any trouble. Biggest risk is pickpockets. And don't take taxis outside of Oaxaca, take uber.

>>1255093
>>1255091
>>1255098

This is only true in gringo resort areas. Even in non-gringo resort areas (Mazatlan) they're <$40. Though you can fuck them much with much less hassle and cheaper at the "strip clubs" and "casas de citas".

I got a cute 18 y/o college girl for $25 in Oaxaca and went to "casas" all the time for $20. Needed spanish though.

>>1255460
I fucked a pretty damn cute mexican chick in mexicali for under 10 bucks back when the exchange was 21 pesos to the dollar.
Ten goddamn dollars.

>>1255095
What colour was her poop hole?

>>1255495
Dont know
Her mom only let her fuck me vaginally and only mish.
It was weird

>>1255081
>tfw no Mexican babe gf

>>1255521
Yeah that is weird, she did it wrong.

When you whore out your daughter you're supposed to watch over the act and make sure the John stays only in her butt to preserve virginity for her future husband. Sound like mamasan was dyslexic.

you should have at least peakend back there anyway

>>1255399
>The fact that neither of you noticed just goes to show that you will never see those disputes unless you involve yourself directly in the fighting.
This is true, violence in Mexico is not nearly as bad as the media makes it seem, on the other hand poverty is way worse than you think, I think we get compared to somalia or something like that, there is that much misery.

As it's been adviced before just avoid poor neighboors, people over there is really desperate and will try to rob you if you look like you have money.

>>1255579
Wrong.
It's worse than depicted on the media.
Mexico is not safe, ignore the real travelers and resortfags who claim otherwise.

>>1255081
please take your lewd photos elsewhere

>>1256019
At least the Yucatan seemed pretty safe.
Except microbiologically.

And I think Merida is somewhere between "resort" and "real traveler".

>>1255081
just did for three months. totally safe. stay away from the border. the only people that tried to swindle me were white and from the US. go figure.
Have a great time. You'll pick up some spanish as you go. Airbnb is cheaper than hostels and way nicer.
San Cristobal is a really cool spot. Have fun

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>>1256019
>It's worse than depicted on the media

Oh really? It is depicted as the second deadliest country in the world by the American media under several bullshit circumstances:

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-05-09/mexico-now-world-s-deadliest-conflict-zone-after-syria-survey?cmpid=socialflow-facebook-business&utm_content=business&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social

1) Mexico is currently at war (a real literal war with military personnel deployed on the streets fighting with military weapons against paramilitary organizations, some of which received military training by the American and Israeli special forces units, in a guerrilla type conflict, not the meme definition of a war Americans use i.e. 'war on drugs') against Drug Cartels, the most profitable organization in the entire planet
2) Deaths derived from that conflict are counted in the murder rate, which doesn't happen for any other conflict on the planet (Syria, Iraq, African Wars, Crimea, etc)
3) At the same time it is counted in the murder rate, it is also counted in the conflict causality rate, which doesn't happen for countries like Venezuela, El Salvador, Honduras, Colombia, Brazil, etc
4) For the reasons above, Mexico is the only country to appear in both lists
5) The report of the "second deadliest conflict zone" not only excludes most countries in the planet and includes Mexico for arbitrary reasons, it also uses the total number of deaths as a measure instead of using rate. With a rate of 19 in Mexico (very high) vs 50 in Afghanistan, Afghanistan and Iraq are clearly more dangerous to be in; but since Mexico has four times their population and more deaths in total numbers as a result, it is ranked conveniently higher. And since Brazil, Venezuela, Colombia, etc, are not even included (all of which have much higher murder rates), Mexico also gets reported as being more dangerous as them


So, really, how can it be worse than what gets reported?

>>1256195
And dot get me wrong, Mexico is a very dangerous country and violence has sadly been increasing for the past 2 years with no signs of getting better. But it is far from being worse than what the media says, and you will only see the conflicts if you either involve yourself directly in them or do something stupid (you are a soldier, a drug dealer, live in the shittiest parts of the main trafficking routes, want to buy drugs, or are incredibly unlucky).

>>1256196
>something stupid
>you are a soldier
I don't understand the relevance here mil people in California head down to TJ all the time.

>>1255127
Is the interior of Oaxaca safe?

>>1256823
Not beyond Oaxaca city

Oaxaca is one of the worst states in general crime. Little narco influence, but a lot of regular crime. Murders, kidnapping, robberies, etc

If you had to pick between the coast of Oaxaca or San Cristobal de las casas, which would you pick?

>>1256827
Ah ok, thanks for that. I had assumed that Oaxaca was very similar to the Yucatan in that regard.

>>1256830
Oaxacan beaches and tourist places are pretty safe though, same as in all Mexico

And it's full of beautiful beaches with world-class surf

>>1255252
>That fucking face

I really liked Juchitan de Zaragoza in Oaxaca... and Tuxtla Gutierrez in Chiapas

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I'm thinking of going for a month, how does this route look? Pic related.

>>1255081
Yes is safe, quite actually. Just dont try to be the "im american im better than you" and you will be fine. Stay on route with the tour if you are thinking in one, almost all people are nice to tourist, no matter where they come from, also there are many people that talk english and will help you.

Dont believe shit other people tell you, I live here in Mexico, I been to many places in this country, its true that we are at war, but its actually on the north of the country, and also the cartels and whatever bad guy you imagine are not everywhere, only in far towns and other ugly places of some cities, but all evade the tourist parts, as they know many people live from that, so they got money for actually not messing with any tourist, soooo its pretty safe as long as you spend your dollars here and dont try to be funny with the wrong people.

>>1255081
I just spent a month there, knew very little Spanish.
My experience was good.
Stay away from Michoacán, the cartels are really bad down there.
Got ran out of town by some narco because his gf lied and said she was single.
Dude gave me 2 hours to get out of town or else.
Can't ever go back there again.
Guadalajara was great.
Lots of people spoke English, and it was a great city.
I'd recommend the Blue Pepper hostel there.

>>1257828
looks pretty good but you might want to take in more coastline south of Campeche city. Campeche city itself I would avoid... I mean its got some nice walls and forts but it is probably the most expensive place around now. it and Cancun/PDC

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meh

If your american stay in america.
ever since your new president got elected into office and started to say stuff about mexicans, people here (Jalisco, Guadalajara) have been feeling some type of way about all the american tourists here.

I work at as a cook here in the downtown area and my coworkers have started to spit in the tourists food.

stay in america bro. I mean, it's the way ya'll wanted it right?

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>>1255521
>let her fuck me vaginally

>>1258128
>mad Americans don't like illegal immigrants from Mexico
>sabotage your own economy and discourage tourists
Oh Mexico... You're so silly.

>>1258128
>implying I'd ever want to go to bumfuck Mexico where the cartels control everything

If I wanted to go to a poor 3rd world country with a shit culture and shit people I'd just go to Thailand

What is Mexico City like for gringo tourists at the moment? Obviously not going into the slums, but say if I got an airbnb in el centro and explored the city for a week (plus day trips to the pyramids) would I be ok?

>>1258282
Nobody cares if you don't act like a dick

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RUSSIAN MADMEN ARE TRAINHOPPING THROUGH MEXICO
r8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpaxpXHqHLw

>>1258294
>you're safe from crime so long as you're polite to locals

t. Officina Mexicana de Tourismo

Why is Mexico the way it is? Beautiful country, unique culture with amazing history yet for the most part it's a corrupt crime infested shit hole with african-tier, flies in babies eyes level poverty. Mexico could be such an awesome place.

>>1258340
That's not what I said

>>1258373
Because Mexico has very shitty leaders and a government system that does not work, same as in every other third world shithole. The last (and only) good leader Mexico has had was the dictator Porfirio Diaz.

But I agree. Mexico could be the #1 tourist destination in the world. We have the best beaches, the best food, the most beautiful scenery and natural landscape

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>>1255081
then no...espiceally you.

its not a safe country thats why you have to be very cautious and KNOW where you are going.

its general anywhere you go but its a good idea in rich countrys to very neccasary in poor lands

>>1255149
.....or a kidney

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>>1258269
well if you are looking for sun, then is straya if you can hack drunks and its nature, southern europe is good, greece is broke so itll be cheap, okinawa and hawaii but youll get beat up.

ya southern europe is best option, esp if youre a white guy.
3rd world you get harassed or targeted cuz they think you got money
plus biligualism is common in europe unlike rest of the world

>>1258481
How can it be fixed? Is it even possible at this point?

>>1258492
A coup where the military gets in control, and magically sets a non-corrupt leader in charge. Then, with nothing short of a miracle, wipes out all corrupt politicians (90+%), all corrupt police (also 90%), and destroys any and all narco infrastructure

So, no. Not possible. There is not a single man in the entire country that could be the leader for this.

Captcha: kingsly cuauhtemoc
Maybe if the aztecs come back...

>>1258495

The Aztecs are gone bud, Mexico is of a mestizo nation in todays day and age.

>>1258282
You will be fine as a gringo in mexico city. Obviously take normal precautions, watch out for pickpockets, hustlers and don't wander around slums at night, but no one is going to throw you in a van at gunpoint during the day at a touristy place like revolution monument or some shit lol.

>>1258373
Because Spain

Everything Spain touched went to shit while Bongistan created functional countries because common law.

>>1255149
He never said it was a hooker.

>>1255081
You need to contact the cartel and pay them for protection when you're there. They will give you a password to say if you get stopped and harassed.
Have you given any thought to what personal weapon you might carry?

>>1258481
>The last (and only) good leader Mexico has had was the dictator Porfirio Diaz

I'm so tired of this lie, it's so stupid it's laughable.

Guys, which Mexican state has the best looking girls? Traveling soon

What do you guys think of Morelos? Specifically the area around Cuernavaca. I have family there and would like to go visit soon.

>>1258925
Nuevo Leon, specifically Monterrey.

>>1258927
>What do you guys think of Morelos? Specifically the area around Cuernavaca. I have family there and would like to go visit soon.
>I have family there and would like to go visit soon.

Not trying to be snarky, but wouldn't they be the best people to ask?

Not OP, but I made a Mexico thread, too.

Pretty blown away but how I'm getting way better travel advice about Mexico off fucking Reddit than here with all you fear-mongering pussies.

>>1258951
can you link to the thread?

>>1258954
>>>1258951
>can you link to the thread?
This desu

No one knows shit about Mexico in this thread.

>>1255081
Mexican here. Just avoid places like Reynosa, Acapulco and Mexico City slums. Everything is fine.

>>1255127
>If you go to the northern states, you do run a very, very big risk.
> "he who has the biggest, baddest guns"
What a load of bullshit. This isn't the wild west.

>>1256019
Again, you don't know what are you talking about.

>>1257918
>the north of the country
>ignores places like acapulco

>>1258373
>Why is Mexico the way it is?
Lack of education.

>>1258675
>I'm so tired of this lie, it's so stupid it's laughable.
t. benito juarez

>>1259352
(you)

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>>1259381
*everything else is fine

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>>1255081
A white guy was literally lynched in Cancun recently. And Cancun was supposed to be quiet tourist place. If such a shit happens in tourist "safe" places, travelling across the country must be a certain death.

When I lived in LA I drove down to Ensenada 6 times. Always had a great time and never once felt slightly in danger. I speak enough Spanish to order food and ask basic questions. I can't speak to the county as a whole, but northern Baja outside of TJ feels very safe.

>>1259393
Out of millions of tourists, a white guy died.
Better stay home

>>1259393
If I went to some rural American town and started calling people retarded cousinfuckers on record I'd probably get lynched too and shot for sure. Because that's basically what it took for that guy to get attacked. Talk shit get shit on.

>>1259401
>>1259393
>Harass people on the street for TWO years
Check
>get arrested
Check
>get your citizenship revoked
Check
>still stay as an illegal since your home country doesn't want you back
Check
>people gather outside your house to PROTEST that the police deports you
Check
>kill one of the protesters after chasing him down with a large knife while he was running away from you unarmed
Check
>paramedics treat you afterwards and still be alive, unlike the 19 year old you stabbed
Check

Oh yes, a white guy got "lynched".

>>1259400
He didn't even die, he killed someone before he ended up like that, tho.

>>1258373
It's mostly because of Catholicism, which encourages a disdain for money and working hard, authoritarian conformism, and lack of critical thinking. You will notice that even in Europe, the historically Protestant countries are the richer, more civilized countries.

>>1259522
Only because they are whiter

>>1255081
Why avoid Acapulco?
It's a famoud tourist destination.

>>1259959
Not him but Acapulco is a dangerous, overcrowded, shitty, polluted beach.

Comparing Acapulco to more northern beaches like baja, southern beaches, or yucatan peninsula beaches is like comparing south korea with best korea

Acapulco is where poor people from mexico city and central mexico go to the beach

>>1259974
>Acapulco is where poor people from mexico city and central mexico go to the beach

Poor people like to have fun, and can be friendly too right? I speak ok Spanish and I'm from a poor neighborhood in Houston, would you really suggest I avoid it like the plague? I can't afford a resort villa in Cabo...

>>1260048
Don't avoid it like the plague, but just don't go

There's so much more amazing beaches throughout Mexico, all of them more beautiful than Acapulco and most of them at similar prices for everything or even cheaper. Obviously not Cabo though...

Literally any beach in Mexico is better than Acapulco. Why would you force yourself to go to the worst one?

>>1260052
>at similar prices for everything or even cheaper. Obviously not Cabo though...

>Why would you force yourself to go to the worst one?

I assumed if poor Mexicans go there it must be a good deal, maybe they knew where to find a good bargain. Where would you recommend?

>>1260064
Nah, they go there because it's by far the shortest drive from central mexico. And because most other beaches are really only accesible by plane, other than driving through some gnarly mountain range for 8+ hours

Travelling by plane to Acapulco is laughable at best.

Every coastal Mexican state has beaches that singlehandendly surpass the beauty of all American beaches combined. Perhaps minus florida (and hawaii obviously). All it takes is a google search.

My favorite is Puerto Escondido and neighboring beaches in Oaxaca. But those are definitely not your party-resort type beaches. Yucatan peninsula is unbeatable for this type of beach. (and no, Cancun is not the only beach in the entire peninsula, like most think)

>>1259959
Acapulco is the most dangerous city in Mexico. By far, and that's quite a feat. But even then, most tourists will not even notice they are quite literally in one of the most dangerous places in the world.

>>1260093
Juarez City pls

>>1260105
What about Juarez? It's not even in the top 50

>>1260064
>Where would you recommend
I like todos santos but its not a party town.
La paz is nice , i spent carnival there this year.

>>1260105
not anymore it's cleaned up a lot the pope even visited

>>1255081
are there any more of this girl?

>>1258373
Spain

>>1255081
Where is the best place to meet a girl just like the one in OP's pic?

How would a fellow Mexican person communicate to her that although he is only in town for a short time, he would be interested in forming a relationship with her that continues online, but that he is totally open to a fling and NSA sex if that is her preference.

What do you guys do on first dates? Or do you just say come back to my place so I can sour cream in your taco?

>>1258492
A thermonuclear bomb.

>>1260422
>come back to my place so I can sour cream in your taco?
This is the standard pickup line in all of latin america.
Why reinvent the wheel?

>>1260618
Argies don't eat tacos, they eat steak.

Colombian eat arepas.

All three will work for American girls, they'll eat anything really.

>>1256019
I'm mexican and this guy >>1255399 is right

I'm currently living in a poor neighborhood in Puebla City. White people with fancy cars and expensive clothes are in most cases victims of robbery. Thank God I'm not poor but with brown skin.

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>>1260797

Interesting stuff señor. I'll be moving to Mexico to teach english for a year or two....not sure if i should dress extremely well when heading to work. I guess i gotta keep as low of a profile as i can.

I'm an attractive White American male. What other advice do you have? Is Puebla a nice city? I got a job offer there recently, don't know too much about it.

>>1261046
I ha e a buddy there that say lottsa tail to be had.
Very pretty area

>>1261046
If you are white you better carry a weapon and be ready to use it.

>>1262299
Says the guy who has never been there

>>1255399
do you have the most recent murder stats by state?

>>1261046
>I'm an attractive White American male.
>attractive
If you have to say that you're attractive, then you're not.

>>1256196
I hope violence decreases in Mexico

Still, I do want to go there and it seems like much of the country is reasonably safe