>In my 30s >Hate my life >Hate the very concept of going

>>1215174
There was a ted talk I saw of a guy that did this from eastern Europe somewhere. Travelled for years practically broke just for fun after losing his job. He was about 30. Go for it anon.

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Another stunted manchild yearning for permanent adolescence.
Sounds like you need some struggle and a purpose.

>>1215174
Just fucking do it you faggot. Don't post edgy bullshit like that and try to get sympathy. YOU are responsible for your life, if you don't like it, change it.

You'll be dead in 100 years either way, how you spend tomorrow is the only thing you can control.

Just kill yourself oni-chan.

That's what you wanted to hear right?

>>1215248

Yeah, pretty much

I quit my job at 30, had lots of savings from working a high-paying job for a while. Planned to go for 8-12 months, currently on month 15.

I will say that it's very, very hard to go back to my old corporate life after being nomadic for so long. But it beats the life of the people that I've met that are just barely making it. Most people that travel for as long as I have are so constricted by their lack of money that I really don't see the point. If you have to avoid any expenses by staying in hostel dorm rooms forever, eating the cheapest street food available, and never taking taxis or doing anything fun... it's just shit.

>>1215258
That is, the corporate life seems better than the life of the people that are doing odd unskilled traveling jobs just to support their traveling. As long as you have a decent set of friends, you're getting laid, etc, regular life is not so bad.

>>1215174
I cant think of an easy answer to your question OP, I'm only 25. From what I've been told though ,having kids is the best thing you can do in your life. And getting married supposed to be pretty great too.

I was stuck for 3 years when i left uni, i was drinking too much everyday, had a shitty job that wasnt going anywhere, my girlfriend who meant the world to me left me, and i was living with my parents, wanking far too often, wasting all my time surfing the web.
I made a big leap foward last year to change all that. I stopped drinking and smoking, took an online TEFL course, and just recently got accepted into a great looking school, teaching english in japan. Im sure there are many people out there who'd ridicule such a position, I have alot of friends doing great jobs, who have long since moved out of their parents, some of whom are now getting married.
A year ago, I cared greatly about that, I was jealous to be frank. I've come to realize that comparison (when talking about oneself) is a pretty fruitless endeavour. It honestly used to keep me up at night, thats how pathetic I was.

Now, I cannot wait to do this job and really make the most of it. i'm good with kids and hope i'll make a good teacher. I just want to do this from now on till whenever, follow some of my hobbies such as writing, drawing and animation in my sparetime, meet a new girl who i care about immensely (and who hopefully cares about me), and not have to worry about money. All of them things now seem doable. I suppose I couldve done it in my own country, but the UK doesnt really interest me, and moreso i'm looking for an escape. This hasnt really answered your question, but i suppose the best answer i can give is to just do the things you want to do. And if you have no confidence to do them, act like you do. Anyone in the world can act. Confidence is just a charade.

>>1215174
Shut up you stupid manchild

We live in the greatest period of human history by an indescribably large margin

My grandma grew up without electricity. Her grandma grew up before electricity was a thing. Her grandma grew up when the common people had NOTHING instead of something

The world has ALWAYS been far worse than it is now

Get a job, save some money. You can travel. But you can't expect to eat candy for the rest of your life. It can't be all gravy. Be happy you get the possibility to even travel ONCE

A hundred years ago families could only ever IMAGINE travelling to far away places. They ONLY saw pictures. ONLY PICTURES.

Shut up OP.

We are all so lucky it's indescribable

>>1215240
I like how even though the top one is silly and edgy, it's still incredibly more poignant and coherent than the drivel some edgy young neo-conservative made for the bottom part.

>>1215422
A bit edgy, but he has a point, OP. Just imagine that any information which required a lot of money, time and connections to be obtained before is available for you right here and now, for free. Moreover, you don't have war, hunger, pandemics etc limiting your life choices. It's only you who makes your life boring. And no place or person can change it but you

>>1215174
You'll feel instantly better if you just get a scheduled plan sketched out that, in future, leads to better days and more interesting options. The spouse, kids and savings can wait a little bit (assuming a man), until you have a life worth sharing...for now.
Go get your Paxil prescription, so you can roll out of bed in the morning feeling rested, not depressed and reasonably motivated. It's one thing to have a plan, and another thing to not implementing step 1 because you're feeling like crap every day.
Being a bum is the lot of the formerly hard working, whether from retirement or ambitious 20s (another lesson not to blow your wad in your 20s, but to act like an adult very early). There are plenty of retired-at-40 people, but they hustled their butts in their 20s, not waited until they were old and tired to decide not to work so hard.

Get off the internet. Spend your downtown outside of working each day doing meaningful things that keep your happy to get off work and do them. Just hours idling on the web and internet puts you at alpha wave mental fatigue, good sleep and actually just becomes a routine. Limit it, even schedule it, like going back in time to when you paid by the minute. Unplug. Once you go to work Monday, after day spent sailing, hitting baseballs at the batting cage, walking festivals,camping, traveling around your town acting like a tourist nearby, head in the books for a class, you'll start to see your day job as the restful break in the continuum of your fun evenings and weekends. You're probably seeing it now as the horrible interruption of your willful spoiled person who simply wants to veg out online and sleep at will. Fix it!

Oh, I work, and I travel as much as my time to do laundry and pack outside of work entails. Fridays or Mondays off are my specialty. I spent $300 on round trip to St. Patrick's Day parade last year in Chicago, from airfare to 4star hotel (expedia deal), to meals. Go do that.

>>1215240
>everyone who isn't a prematurely balding conservative 14 year old wet cunt like me is a stereotype of a hipster i've developed from playing gta 5

>>1215240
>Another stunted manchild yearning for permanent adolescence.
This

>Sounds like you need some struggle and a purpose
National Socialism (I kid, I kid)

Join the french foreign legion, serve your contract honorably, bandecome fluent in french, and then walk on to any Africa-based merc group.

>>1217184
he's too old for that.

>>1215276
Not OP but interested in the TEFL thing, course name or something please? Sorry for asking for spoonfeeding, just feeling stuck and want to check it out.

>>1215240
Oh fuck you, you twat. Finding rewarding work is a challenge for a lot of people. Lots of people need to take soul-finding adventures to figure out what is important to them.
At least this one is asking for help, all you've done is passed judgement based on their ONE SENTENCE and offered nothing of value. Get fucked.

>>1215174
I became a bum. I work easy seasonal jobs and travel for fun in-between.
Right now I'm traveling around Ecuador and Peru for a month, then I'm headed to Alaska in April to drive a UNIMOG for a tour company ($13/hr + OT, a $2/hr season bonus and a bed in the company dorm), last summer I worked for a rafting company and lived in a company-provided 10x12 tent. Before that I was houseman at little ski lodge in Utah, I tended fireplaces and vacuumed the lobby in exchange for room & board and a free pass to one of the best mountains in the Northern Hemisphere

>but I'm to old for that!

I'm 38. I've never been as healthy and happy as I am now. I have no debt, my biggest financial obligation is $65 a month for my car insurance and I spend all my time with young, active women that don't want to "settle down".


Shit's fucking cash, man.

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>>1215468
Thanks for posting. I particularly like what you say about making work a welcome break from your weekend activity, as opposed to an unwelcome interruption of your vegging out. Such a more healthy way of thinking.

At 25, it hurts to think about the time I've wasted not exploring hobbies, dating, etc (aka, growing as a person), so I try not to. Good news is, the happiness and confidence I get from working and struggling and generally being active is great positive reinforcement. It took me a long time to realize that doing stuff and taking risks actually energizes you, not depletes you.

God, i feel almost euphoric thinking about how much there is to do and explore and how much room I have to improve myself. And even when that feeling subsides and I feel down, I can remind myself of that feeling and as a result feel better. /blog

Next step might be to investigate psychiatric help, although I've long been skittish about it

>>1215422

Can you imagine how miserable these piece of shit manbabies are going to be if they get to retirement age? Sitting around all day without constant stimulation and validation will literally kill them.

>>1217935
>At 25, it hurts to think about the time I've wasted not exploring hobbies, dating, etc (aka, growing as a person), so I try not to.
I think at 25, your whole life is ahead of you, and you aren't supposed to be having so many regrets. Try joining a meetup org group...could be anything, people who do a film festival together, or play board games. Join something professional like a hack-a-thon group or an adult softball league. Just add some diversity to your week, grants some occasional new friends (you're interviewing new people, not the reverse), and some might just be keepers.

The time for psychiatric help is if you can't sleep a full night, or if you can't NOT dwell on a problem, or you can tick off too many of the depression questionnaire and can't change them through your own good habits at the same time.

>>1215447

What would have to be screwed up in someone's head to think that bullshit is "poignant"? Do you even know what that word means? Do you know what "edgy" means also actually cause you used it twice to refer to the two different things you're trying to draw contrast between in your post

it's the perfect response to that dated picture if you ask me, cause it's like "oh then what, you just lay around and get high all day?"

I mean that's what I do but I don't pretend I'm part of the resistance for doing it

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>>1217943
Thanks man, really appreciate the encouragement. I think developing a social life will--besides being great unto itself--really improve all the other spheres of my life. I'm really excited, if a bit anxious. I know I'll be a little clumsy from time to time. But I know I can do it.

Also, I tend to agree with what you say about professional help; it's best used when you can't get past the problems yourself. I'd rather keep trying to improve on my own, for now.

Change your reality. For years, I worked for half the year and quit for the other half. Then looked for a new job when I get back. Now I tell companies when I'm not available to work and they're either cool with that or they're not.

I can't do this forever and I don't want to work until retirement, either... So in looking for a country that gives me the quality of life that I want.

>>1215240
>9gag

>>1215240
Lmfao the bottom pic doesn't resonate at all. It's hardly coherent.

Look at it like this::

I traveled for most of my 20s, working jobs along the way and staying where I could. Made it around the world twice and my body count (sex partners) is in the triple digits. Loved every minute of it.

I'm now almost 32 and I work as a carpet salesman. I make 40k a year, rent a 1 bedroom apartment with my wife and drive a Hyundai Accent. I'm not an abject failure but things like home ownership or a savings account seem like pipe dreams at the moment.

If this sounds like a good trade off to you, keep traveling. If not, move back into mom's and get an education.

>>1217950
I've wasted more time there trying to catch all three trains at once than I'd like to admit.

Really wish I could work while traveling. I wouldn't mind sifting away 10 hours of work on a laptop if I'm in a brand new place

>>1218676
What do you do?

Lots of people freelance remotely, there's co-working spaces all over the world. A lot of them are even networked with memberships.

ive been doing what OP wants to do, since like early 20s im 30 now

its p much the god tier lifestyle

but OP is probably a consumerist pleb who drives around in his overpriced car, paws at his iphone every waking moment, goes to the theaters like a good little pleb, and pays overpriced food from restaurants and fast food joints

you basically want your lifestyle but don't want what comes with it,

it works for me because i dont want that lifestyle and dont find it appealing, you're a pleb, im not.

also
>all these people pretending their lives are awesome
>all this rationalization for being tied down their entire lives

its great waking up every morning knowing i have a guaranteed free paycheck every month for doing fucking nothing

>>1218689
>being this retarded

You know what's better than being a piece of shit that everyone looks down upon?

Not being that

you know what's better than being poor in a foreign country? Being rich in a foreign country

I can fly first class to Lucerne, ski in the alps for the weekend, then book a flight to Croatia and go fishing with some locals

The best thing about having money while traveling is that you can choose to travel without money, but you still have the mony, when you are a poor piece of shit, you have no option and are pretty much screwed if an emergency happens

suck a dick, and stop living in denial

>>1215174

drugs mainly. i drink every day and i've been abusing benzos for 3 years now. also taken acid about 35 times. had to stop snorting coke and heroin because it hurts my heart.

>>1215422
>We live in the greatest period of human history by an indescribably large margin

You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about

>>1218786
He's right though. We have the healthiest population, access to nearly anything we want and the ability to travel across the globe in record time at a moments notice.

What time period would you prefer to live in?

>>1217904
so you don't have any appartment or housing of your own back in ''your city'' ?

>>1218689
> laughs at someone for being a consumerist
> produces nothing

el oh el

>>1218516
>my body count (sex partners) is in the triple digits

how would you know that, you keep a journal or something? I've stopped counting after 30-40

>>1218516
>I'm now almost 32 and I work as a carpet salesman. I make 40k a year, rent a 1 bedroom apartment with my wife


Just curious, what made you decide to settle down like this at 32?
Asking because I literally BEGAN travelling at 32

>>1218792
> falling for the production/consumption meme

A man doesn't have to produce anything but the bare essentials for himself. Modern society is a meme and I am not even that guy.

>>1215174
How hard is it to hobo?

>>1218790
Nope, I have a private mailbox. Dude even throws away my junkmail and emails me when important stuff comes through so he can forward it to me.

>>1218794
I did a count a while back... Can't get the precise number but 120-130ish... Sweden was good to me bro

>>1218830
City mouse and country mouse I suppose. After being on the road for so long, I embrace the things I used to be terrified of. I want kids, real bad, and coming home to a loving wife and 3 puppers is more my tune nowadays than babes and beaches. I want that 9-5, shirt to work, church on Sundays, camping trips and barbeques, buttoned down life that I rebeled so much against. I get my parents so much more now.

Not that the vagabond life isn't rad...

>>1218934
ok well good luck then

PS: if you make 40k, have an appartment that probably doesn't cost much and a gf that is most likely working as well... things should be fine for you guys (like being a house eventually and whatnot)

>>1218786
>>1218786

You think you could seriously make an argument against that? Please, humor me.

>>1218973
I could go on for days faggots but I won't.
Just to throw you a bone though, 20 years ago Thailand wasn't ruined by fucking yolofags.
Nobody had a cell phone and people were still able to meet up or travel without problems. If you went to Paris 20 years ago, you wouldn't see as many niggers and sand niggers. The earth was less poluted. 9/11 didn't happen. Again I could go for days but I'll stop now

>>1218975
Those are absolutely tiny factors considering the huge upsides like the internet and the like. You're just in denial that life can be tolerable, or even good.

>>1218516
>I make 40k a year, rent a 1 bedroom apartment with my wife and drive a Hyundai Accent. I'm not an abject failure but things like home ownership or a savings account seem like pipe dreams at the moment.

I don't understand. I earn £18k a year and I still managed to save £20k for a mortgage deposit and I've nearly payed off the mortgage on my £70k flat. How much is property where you live?

In 2/3 years or so I'm gonna rent out my flat and use the rent money to bum about in Asia for a year or two.

>>1219041
May I ask how old you are?
Let me guess you travel with your smartphone, don't you?

>>1218846
no youre cattle lol

>>1215422
Fucking naive retard detected

>>1219041
lol, upsides.

It's sad how so many people blindly accept that technology is inherently 'beneficial' for granted.

Yes, the Internet has made your life soooo much better. Now, you can sit in your room all day mesmerized and entranced by a never ending stream of constant stimulation. Oh and also, you can order trinkets that you "need" from amazon at the click of a button! Lucky you! Whatever would you do without these things?! Who needs to actually meet up with friends when you can sit in your room and watch youtube and play online games all day? As a matter of fact, who needs a girlfriend when you can sit in your room and jack your dick to porn all day?! What a life!

Sure, there are some benefits of technology. But you need to define what a 'benefit' is. So technology makes you more productive? OK. Is productivity inherently 'beneficial'? You need to more specifically define 'beneficial'. Are you any happier because you are more productive? Are you healthier? Do you have more friends and quality social time? Do you experience a richer romantic life? Do you live a more fulfilling and happier life than you otherwise would have?

Most importantly, you need to assess the neurological impact technology is having on your mind. Neuroplasticity is a very real thing, and sitting in front of a screen all day jumping from distraction to distraction under a trance for 8 hours on end wreaks havoc on your mind and makes the time you spend OFF of technology less enjoyable.

GPS is pretty great. It let's you get to where you want more quickly and efficiently. But WHY are you getting to where you are going in the first place? Start with that question, and ask more questions like it, and you may expand your mind a little and start to see that we don't objectively live in the "greatest time ever".

Happiness and human contentment are abstract and complicated, and proposing a direct linear relationship between technological sophistication and human happiness is inane.

>>1218786
Not an argument.

>>1219290
Native Americans worked 3 hours a day, usually hunting or harvesting with their tribesmen, if you consider that working. For the rest of the day, they ate, danced, sang, and fucked. They fucked alot more than we did and they had a lot more freetime. They spent their entire live in beautiful, unmolested wilderness.

They didn't have facebook though, so you must be right

>>1219292
I don't agree with the first idiot either, but you can still be an animal today.
You'd probably get bored after week though.

>>1219294
He's arguing that society and life today is better than it ever has been.

I'm arguing that it has been better in the past.

I'm not arguing that if you go out into the wilderness alone and try to live as an animal isolated from others, especially after being exposed to the modern world, that you would be happier. I wouldn't be surprised if doing that for some period of time affected someone in profound and fulfilling ways though.

>>1219292
and had a 33% infant mortality rate, lived until the ripe old age of 45, had the intellectual resources and education of a pig, had no anesthetic, no central heating or warm bed, no escape to find alternative lifestyles etc. Yeah, sounds fantastic.

>>1219310
1. Yes, you are right about the infant mortality rate. They viewed it differently though, and infant mortality was not seen as a tragedy as it is now. Essentially, this may be so, but it had no effect on those who lived. And if you died as a child, when you weren't even fully conscious, then did you ever really suffer?

2. Common misconception. You are correct in that the average age of mortality was 45 when you TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE INFANT MORTALITY RATE. Those who lived though generally did so until the ripe old age of 70. Just as they did now. Homo Sapiens are meant to live about 7 decades when they survive. Before you start bitching, here you go: https://condensedscience.wordpress.com/2011/06/28/life-expectancy-in-hunter-gatherers-and-other-groups/

3. First of all, they did have anesthetic, and although you are right that they didn't have warm beds, they didn't need them. Lots of things that we need today are things we have become dependent on. Try going without your jacket for a month next winter, and you'll begin to find that you don't need jackets as much anymore. Also, have you heard of fire?

They were adapted for their world. They evolved for millions of years to live in the world the way they did. You're crazy if you thought they were out of their element.

>>1219310
>and had a 33% infant mortality rate, lived until the ripe old age of 45
Made-up numbers

>had the intellectual resources and education of a pig
They had shelter, food, heat, medecine, clothing... what else do you need? ipads?

>had no anesthetic
How often have you used anesthetics in your lifetime?

>no central heating or warm bed
yeah we all know genuine animal fur is cold as fuck huh...also what is fire?

>no escape to find alternative lifestyles
Why would you want to escape?

>>1219214
Because I work to live and not live to work? You can call me cattle, but in reality I am free while you are bound in a golden cage you have built for yourself. Work will set you free though right ;)

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>>1219360
Damn, dude, don't you feel the cringe yourself just by re-reading your post? It's edgy as fuck

>>1219317
>And if you died as a child, when you weren't even fully conscious, then did you ever really suffer?
I appreciate the effort you're putting into your post. But you're being dumb, you should follow what you're advocating and go outside more. See the lack of danger.

even /trv/ is full of autists

i hate this website

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>>1219396
Then fuck right off newfag

>>1219262
>>1219292
He wasnt talking only about technology you faggot. Whats stopping you from embracing the tribal lifestyle? You have the choice to reject the modern society yet you bitch for the good old days. You are the kind of person who complains but never does.
>inb4 the system is against me

>>1219389
>Not sophisticated or intelligent enough to form argument
>I'll just post a fedora picture and say he's edgy

>>1219433
Dude I've been working for a year and backpacking for a year for the past 7 years, I did reject modern society.

>>1218975

Thailand is still great. It's your attitude that sucks.

Cell phones are a great tool for communicating and traveling.

You're a racist piece of shit (big shocker).

The rest I might agree with, but you're still a complete moron. We live in a time when there is more access to traveling, communication, healthcare, job opportunity, education, etc. If you want to live in the past, move to the midwest or something.

>>1218522
where is this?

>>1219360
men create, animals only graze

>>1219292
remind me what happened to native americans (and indeed all the other layabout tribals eg australian aboriginals etc.) again? it was something pretty big but i cant quite remember :thinking:

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>>1219527
If you love niggers and sandniggers, move to Africa or something.
"Racist" is a word invented by a literal revolutionary communist kike (big shocker) to shut down discussion.

>>1219586

>being this dumb

I feel sorry for you, anon. Good luck in life. It's gonna be rough.

>>1219664
not him, but denying there are differences between races and sexes is the stupidest idea possible

>>1219690

Almost as stupid as denying there are differences within races and sexes. i.e. there's a hell of a lot of blacks smarter than you

>>1215174
>>Just want to travel and be a bum for the rest of my days
>>Never gonna happen
Do it. Nothing is stopping you

>>1219703
>replying to simple-minded racists who use nonarguments

Lol how new are u?

>>1219292
>hunting and harvesting takes three hours a day
Know how I know you've never farmed or hunted?

>>1219832

It's just another romanticized delusion floating around among primitivist type hippies who have never done an honest day's work or wanted for any material comforts.

We wuz polygamous, in tune with nature, peaceful, happy and carefree hunter-gatherers n shiiiet.
Then the evil capitalist patriarchs came and fucked it up.

>>1219927
Farming alone is a hard day's work. Trust me, I've done it as my father and grandfather have. And while hunting was easier due to the massive animal populations there were still days where they wouldn't find a single animal. People went hungry. Life is fucking easy now compared to how it once was.

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>>1219934
So we're in agreement.
Maybe you didn't catch the sarcasm in the later half of my post.

>>1219949
I got what you were saying. I wasn't responding to you there. I was more venting/putting my thoughts out there for OP if he comes back. Sorry if I came across wrong.

>>1219389
Good argument. And not at all, it's what I believe fully. The idea of working the majority of your free time for the vast majority of your life is insane/cringy to me. Enjoy your golden years of retirement, if you even make it to retirement.

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>>1215422
>We live in the greatest period of human history by an indescribably large margin

One of these retards

driver for uber and you can work and travel anywhere with a big city