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>How does /trv/ feel about resort travelers? A large group

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>How does /trv/ feel about resort travelers?

A large group of my friends and their wives/gf's went on vacation to the Jamaica. They went to a nice resort, and stayed on said resort all week only venturing out once their whole vacation. They came back explaining to me how great the country was and how "different" Jamaica was compared to the US. Maybe I am just a jaded asshole but I just cant really see any legitimacy to this type of travel. I'm not saying that from the RealTraveler aspect of only staying in hostels and staying off the beaten path, but the simple fact that that literally went to a bubble and stayed there without seeing the country.
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i love 'em. the more people who want to spend all their time in a resort the fewer people i have to share the rest of the country with.
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>>1205055
Where you from senpai?
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>>1205054
I'm not going to pretend I understand them. At least not the ones who fly far far away just to roast on a beach.
I get that some find it fun and relaxing instead of painfully boring like I do, but why on earth would you travel halfway across the globe only to never leave your resort? They're all the fucking same.
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>>1205057
california, but i easn't talking about where i live, but where i travel.

though the same principle applies to yosemite, where 99% of the visitors never go more than a mile from a road. it's great for people like me that go out in the backcountry, but for some reason people like to complain about most people limiting themselves to a small area. never makes sense to me.
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People travel for different reasons and resort traveling is just one of them

Nobody who wants to "travel the world" goes to 20 different countries and then just stays inside the resort the entire time each trip.. the people that resort travel are simply looking for a vacation on beaches that are better / more exotic than the beach they are used to going to

My family stays at a resort in Cancun every year just to relax for New Years.. none of us think this is legit traveling (everyone in the family has been to at least 1 other continent)
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>>1205054
I have done the real travelled back packing thing and bummed around Asia and Africa, etc. now that I am busy, have a kid, small quick vacations to ski resorts, Disney, beach resorts etc is more my speed. I want to relax not logistic myself to death
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>>1205065
>People travel for different reasons and resort traveling is just one of them

Really all that needs to be said. Don't be an asshole, OP. Not everyone travels for the same reasons as you. Some just want to go, get drunk and fat, and relax.
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>>1205069
I mean I put in a lot of planning before my trips, but once I'm there it's pretty relaxing, all the work has already been done.
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There must be easy pussy at those places
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>>1205054
ah look, resort stay is actually great

meet all the hot white women
don't have to plan anything
everything is nice
things generally run without a hitch

I don't do it myself mainly because of the cost if I'm to be honest
sure you don't get that realtraveler cultural experience, and you the resorts are basically the same everywhere bar the menu and decor
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>>1205141
>meet all the hot white women
i'm married
>don't have to plan anything
planning is half the fun
>everything is nice
as long as there aren't bugs or mold in the mattress i'm okay
>things generally run without a hitch
when you just go from your room to the bar to the restaurant to the bar to your room repeat x5 what could possibly go wrong?
plus i love planning on the fly when something unexpected pops up

but if you're happy i'm happy for you. :)
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>>1205149
there are a lot of reasons to prefer more outgoing travel, but for a de-stress holiday many people prefer to just eat at resort resteraunt, drink cocktails and fuck each others wives

I don't turn up my nose at such people
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>>1205154
I don't either although what kills me is when resort people speak to me about traveling and then tell me there trip was just as Much of a cultural experience as my self planned trek through some third world shithole. I'm not saying my traveling style is right and there's is wrong, but come on sitting in a resort in a foreign country is probably less of a cultural experience than traveling a few states over.
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>>1205054
>Maybe I am just a jaded asshole but I just cant really see any legitimacy to this type of travel.
On the surface, you are projecting some personal desires with travel and not seeing the whole picture.
That is _exactly_ how you travel when you go to Jamaica, newb. There's a reason they built walls around resorts in the first place. Maybe you don't understand that having resorts is like controlling a piece of the country that isn't controlling itself. It's the best of both worlds, the natural flora and fauna at that latitude, a controlled piece of beach that doesn't allow locals onto it to steal from you, or worse. It's not any different than being on a cruise ship, and with the size and care given at so many resorts, you can indeed dine differently nightly, enjoy spas, water sports, tours, or the people you came with. If you're not one for sitting around and shooting the breeze with family, other couples, and some old friends because life has been too busy, then you might not get it that escaping some cold climes, dipping in pools, sipping in shade, getting good conversation for hours is indeed a vacation. You'll probably eat local seafood, booze and hear some accents or enjoy typical architecture. I'll also tell you, no one gives a shit about Jamaica's history. They messed up leaving the crown, and then they because so acidic and hateful to tourists (maybe you weren't alive then), but it was BAD. Airline and travel industry folks remember. PM Manley (1970s) first term started it all, a socialist campaign that rivaled Castro's hateful policies, there was actually propaganda that made two generations hate tourists, and american investments dried up from the horrible things that happened to americans there. Enter Hurricane Gilbert, and their economy slumped further. Travel agents didn't send tourists to Jamaica. The only people who seemed to escape trouble stayed on the resorts as long as they didn't leave.
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>>1205584
>talking only about Jamaica
>not realizing people do this shit in tons of countries

I had a friend fly from the US to Thailand to do this. What the fuck.
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>>1205054
Resorts are retarded. Why do you have to fly to exotic places to sit by a pool and get drunk?. Just take a bus to Florida.
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>>1205054
I'm a newbie traveler and I'm scared to get nigger robbed in foreign country so I don't go out too far
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>>1205588
Thats really a shit reason to do that. Also what countries do you go to where you feel that unsafe? Fucking Haiti?
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>>1205585
The premise is the same. Resorts with walls are a business trying to stay afloat and you shouldn't resent them because it's not your thing. They attract people who want to travel and not at the same time deal with the shit infrastructure that doesn't value first worlders lives like good security can do. Poor economies that have no decent island jobs is where most resorts tend to happen. Nice hotels still needs to address food and entertainment being safe when tourists either can't get decent clean food or robbed going to and from local joints. So, they build their own.
Sometimes the resorts kill local economies further, either by not hiring locals within it, or keeping tourists from building up a town's shopping and local businesses, Bahamas killed themselves with casinos. Oh well.

I just still don't get why someone would resent someone else who chooses that type of vacation. Is it that you don't travel often enough that it's not a good choice for your time when you have so much left on your bucket list? Does the price scare you? It's not okay to care how other people spend their own money, you know.
From landing fees, taxes to jobs, they do support locals in some way. It can be a way to enjoy local food but with the infrastructure of water purification that cleans your produce, and sanitary commercial plate washing. Big resorts can do things like promote change like getting additional police, regulate issues that affect their business like road quality, improve dive safety by having hyperbaric added to local hospitals or licensing of locals.
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>>1205581
A lot of people don't want a deeply cultural experience. They just want to unwind in a relaxing atmosphere that isn't home after working their asses off for an uninterested boss at a deadend job while life is speeding by. Flying to another country for the relaxation only strengthens the idea of being away from it all. Plus, for those who live in a cold or temperamental climate, going somewhere garuanteed sunny can be very nice.
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Years ago I had a super-hot eastern european girlfriend that loved to go to all-inclusive resorts. If it were today she'd be an instagram whore, that type of girl.

Anyway I took her to Jamaica and we barely left the resort, but it was a pretty good time. It wasn't about the cultural experience or really seeing the country, that wasn't the point. We drank all day, had lots of sex, just enjoyed hanging out with eachother in an environment that was an escape from the everyday grind.

Nowadays I'm interested in other things, but I can understand people that aren't. I think most americans are scared and uninterested in wandering around the regular parts of 3rd world countries.
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>>1205671
Sure, but don't claim it was a deeply cultural experience if you do that. I agree with >>1205581 that it's pretty common with resort travelers.
Probably because they've never tried the alternative and don't know just how different it is.
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>>1205581
Even people who go to resorts typically have excursions
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>>1205878
>>1205581
>>1205054
This is pure real traveler snobbery/elitism and why there is a thread in the catalog right now on why people don't like backpackers.
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>>1206009
Haha, I love that meme too! It's so fun to say and it's great how it invalidates any discussion on the topic instantly!
Nobody's saying resort travelers are having fun wrong. In fact, everyone in the whole thread seems to understand the whole relaxing aspect of it and why people like it. But if you think living for a week in a 5-star resort gated community is the same kind of experience as living outside using the means the locals have, you need your head checked.
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>>1205602
Thanks for taking the time to post your pieces of advice, I agree 100% with you.

My parents in law fly to Mauritius like 4 or 5 times a year just to sit on the beach or by the pool.
They go for the cheap luxury (spacious rooms and all inclusive in a 4 or 5 stars resort are a kind of luxury/decadent lifestyle), also they don't need to care about everyday's life for a week or two. Grocery shopping, cleaning up the house, cooking 3x a day, and so on. They just let go for a week.
For the same budget we have planned a 3 weeks trip to China, a 2 weeks trip to South Africa, and a month long trip to France. Would I do it their way? Fuck no. But their money, their decision.
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Beach resort traveler here. I usually go 3x a year (2 weeks in end may/early june, 2 weeks in september/october and a week during winter.
Mainly go to Cuba, but sometimes I'll go to Dominican Republic or Cancun

early june and october are low season, so I can get pretty good prices. one week all included can go as cheap as 500ish $ Canadian (that's flight, room, food and unlimited alcohol), though I usually stay 2 weeks in low season since the price is so cheap. During winter one week is roughly double that amount

Why do I go so often? Simple; I really REALLY like the beach, really like alcohol, and really like to fuck.
It's so easy over there... literally every single woman you meet that isn't with her bf/husband is open for business. Spend your day at the beach, and then just go to the lobby bar at night where everyone gathers to socialize. When you find someone interesting, just invite her to the beach at night, and then escalate the situation.
I've had sex with chicks from literally all over the world, even though I only visited 4 countries in my entire life

Sure, I may not be a ''world traveller'', but whatever, that's not for me.
I want my comfort, my AC, my hot showers and king-size bed. I want to spend 5 hours everyday just chilling in front of breath-taking beach. I usually fo swim for an hour, go back and grab a drink, go read a book in my chair and then go back to swim. I could do this all year-long
Besides, it's not like I stay in the resort 24/7, I always venture out to check out local restaurants and clubs.

If you wanna be some dude that ''explores the world'' with a backback, a harmonica and poor hygiene, be my guest.
In the meantime I'll be making out on the beach with a 10/10 Ukrainian chick and then spend the whole night fucking her in my cozy hotel room
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>>1205054
Why the holy flying fuck would anybody give a rat's ass about ho somebody else likes to travel?

Resort does not appeal to you -- here is a tip; don't stay at a resort.

If somebody else wants to go stay on one, who fucking cares?
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It might seem and I used to think it is shallow. If you have to work your ass off every day you will understand the appeal though, especially when it's all-inclusive. For some people it's like a reward. I still prefer blending in and having to take care of myself over some shitty resort though. I want to spend as less as possible for my accomodations. All I need is a bed and wifi, mane.
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>>1205055

This.

>>1205054

Why on Earth would I mind resort travelers? I might not want to have an experience like them, but I can understand where they're coming from. If you work forty or fifty hours per week, flying off for a few days to a warm, sandy beach might hold a certain kind of appeal. I imagine that I might not be as opposed to staying in a resort in twenty years as I am right now - what's wrong with having all your needs taken care of by professional staff in a safe, controlled environment?

Given, it's not very adventurous, nor is it too exciting. However, my ex-girlfriend's family did a lot of "typical" vacations. They'd book a room in a big hotel, go out here and there to skydive, water-ski, and chill out on the beach, and relax for a while. All of them, including my ex, were pretty well-off people who didn't take much vacation. I think resorts are great for 9-5 types of people who want to do a lot and explore a little.

Saying that one form of travel isn't "legitimate" is retarded.

As the other fellow said, the only impact resorts have on me is that I'm not pushing up against as many travelers in central Mexico or Colombia.

>>1206266

Also, this.
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>>1205054
The high point of the one time I visited Jamaica was seeing one of the locations filmed for Dr. No from the cruise ship. Being ashore was shit, despite how nice the river and waterfalls were. I don't blame people for staying at a resort and never leaving there.
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