>live with girlfriend >expected to take every trip together

>>1202422
no

>>1202422
Yeah,

honestly I want to go alone sometimes but she won't let me

>>1202422
Break up. You're not really looking for a relationship. You're not in love.

Man cave stuff, needing to be with the boys, is only because your friends are losers who are still single and you're in the middle between needing couple friends, and your friends being jealous/inappropriate/immature and you're just not mature yet.

It's not like you're going to NASCAR, and she hates noise, and you intend to hang in the pit all day. It's not like you two are going hunting in the backcountry, dropped off by helicopter, and she can't stand camping, and it's going to be 7 days off the grid at the cost of $400/day, and yea, she's not into that. Think very deeply about why you want to be alone, and if you're just being a dick and want some of the freedoms of a single guy, but some of the benefits of sex. It's that you're committed or you aren't. This is all considering this is a relationship longer than 2 weeks, of course and she can actually pay her own way (if she wanted to vs just need to be rewarded for never having two dimes to rub together but gets a paid vacation too).

>>1202422
same with husband
and he says "how would you feel if i went off somewhere without you?"
i said that would be absolutely fine with me, as solo travel is a very enriching experience.
he didn't buy it.

>>1202427
subtle cuck posting. nice

>>1202422
I have a girlfriend but i love her taking trips with me and dont want to go without her. The thing that bothers me is there are certain places i want to go but just dont feel comfortable taking her.

>>1202431
cool

>>1202422
I go out and do plenty of stuff with the boys, and my girl does stuff with her girlfriends. When it comes to travel we usually do it together, just because we travel well together and usually want to go to the same places. That said we still travel alone for various business and family obligations. But most of our pleasure travel is together.

>>1202427
Ditto. Want to travel alone but bf wants to tag along everywhere. I like my solitude once in a while.

no

Solo trips are by far the best things in the world

I'd enjoy a night out, or a movie, or dinner with a bunch of friends, but going to a foreign country, that is something I must do alone

>>1202426
Easy to say online, not so easy in practice. If he's working then he'll only be travelling for a few weeks a year, not so easy to just end a relationship which is good the other 95% of the time purely for that.

>>1202422
Had this problem. Didn't work out. Reason #38 why you shouldn't move in unless you firmly intend to wed.

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> have gf since 3 years ago
> only travel by myself even though she'd like to be with me but I made it clear that my independence cannot be put into discussion
> having a blast every single time and meeting qts everywhere

Feels good.

You teach others how to treat you and you are the one who can set terms for your relationships.

>>1202426
>you're just being a dick and want some of the freedoms of a single guy, but some of the benefits of sex
that's not being a dick. its being a healthy male who is not pussy whipped. but we both agree OP should break up with her

>>1202749
tuck/10

>>1202825
Trap btw

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>>1202422
No, because I didn't fall for the monogameme. I'm guessing you're younger than 30, so you shouldn't be cohabitating with a chick anyway, especially one that cannot wrap her vapid head around your need to be an individual independent of her.

"time we could spend together?" You live with the cunt; if she's not ok with you going it alone/with bros minimum a third of the time she's being objectively unreasonable.

Dump her, live your life, you clearly want more than to be domesticated into some chick's accessory/meal ticket.

>>1202426
>Break up. You're not really looking for a relationship. You're not in love.
On this we agree, however...

>Man cave stuff, needing to be with the boys, is only because your friends are losers who are still single and you're in the middle between needing couple friends, and your friends being jealous/inappropriate/immature and you're just not mature yet.
There's so much wrong with this I don't even know where to begin. First of all, a "man cave" is the last bastion of a broken man's identity; if only one room in a man's house feels like home, there's something seriously wrong.

Second, being single doesn't make a man a "loser." You're implying that a man's worth is decided by the woman in his life, or lack thereof.

>jealous
I can guarantee you no man looks upon another man who can't even take a vacation stag and feels jealousy.

>you're just being a dick and want some of the freedoms of a single guy
For fuck's sake he's not asking to go to Thailand under the pretense of "what happens in Bangkok, stays in Bangkok." He's not asking to fuck other women, what other freedoms is he supposed to compromise?

Are you seriously implying the dude is in the wrong for wanting to take a break from his day to day life, up to and including the constant presence of his girl? What's the big deal, I'm sure she'll text him about nothing constantly while he's abroad and throw a fit if he doesn't respond swiftly to every single one.

Really, bro?

>>1202749
This. "Relationships are about compromise" is a beta meme.

>>1202899
OR or maybe OP needs to find a GF he acutally wants to spend time with.

You sound like a mgtow autist btw

>>1202749
Why even have a relationship if you want to fuck other women and not even vacation with your gf?

>>1202422
A friend of mine started traveling with my group (all males, she has a boyfriend),
for some reason her bf agreed to let her come by herself.
She fucked one of us behind her bf back on a weeklong trip.

How would that make you feel?

Honestly anon, you should break up with her.

I had a similar thing with my ex. He'd always be up in my face all the time, I couldn't go anywhere alone. Going to a gig? He'd come, and cling the whole time.
YOU want to go to this country? Where should WE go?
What do you mean, you want to spend some time alone this weekend? I haven't seen you for THREE WHOLE DAYS.
Why didn't you reply to my goodnight/goodmorning/goodafternoon text???

I'm an introvert who needs lots of alone time. It just wasn't going to work, and in the end I broke up with him and was much happier for it.
If you and your gf need two wildly different levels of contact in order to feel happy and secure, it's not going to work. She's going to feel rejected and lonely, you're going to feel suffocating and resentful.

>>1203055
Nice Projecting going on.

Maybe there is a difference between the insane levels of clinginess your bf had and not wanting your significant other to go on a month long vacation without you?

The chance of cheating while traveling alone are raised drastically.
And also vacations are rare and special and should be shared with someone you love. If you don't want your gf with you when exploring and making memorable experiences why even bother having a relationship?

>>1203062
>The chance of cheating while traveling alone are raised drastically.
If you don't trust your partner not to cheat on you then you shouldn't be in a relationship with them.
I can't imagine ever being desperate enough to stay with someone I felt I needed to "monitor" to stop them betraying me.

>And also vacations are rare and special and should be shared with someone you love.
That's your opinion, not objective fact. There's no reason why a solo vacation can't be a very enjoyable and fulfilling experience.

>If you don't want your gf with you when exploring and making memorable experiences why even bother having a relationship?
Sure, but that doesn't mean you have to have her there for every single experience. You're in a relationship, not trying to become a siamese twin.
Having a gf/bf doesn't mean you should cease to be a separate person.

>>1203067
>Sure, but that doesn't mean you have to have her there for every single experience. You're in a relationship, not trying to become a siamese twin.

True enough, but...

Been married many years, raised some kids, done a bit of traveling for business or at the invitation fo a friend without my wife. I take her and or the kids when I can, because I enjoy their company. I have enjoyed trips without them, but do not recall ever thinking, "Man, I am glad the people I love and who would enjoy being here with me are not here, after all!"

That's my experience, your mileage may vary.

>>1203055
>I haven't seen you for THREE WHOLE DAYS.

You sound like like a self centered bitch to be honest.
Maybe work on your person a bit?

>>1202422

I've been with my gf for a year and a half now, we've done a few trips, but she is pretty cool about me doing my own thing. I generally take her on normie "family friendly" trips and then I do some more wild, /trv/ tier shit by myself or with my friends.

Example:
>this year me and her are going to Australia
>but also this year i'm going to Georgia with my brother and my friends from college

I just tell her I'm going and she's cool with it, as long as I call her every other day to let her know I'm okay. She understands I love travelling and sometimes need my space.

Honestly OP your gf seems kinda like a dick

>>1203070
I think it varies person to person. I'm very introverted, so I need time to "recover" after socialising, and even when living with someone I will need space away from them(maybe a few hours a day) otherwise I become depressed and frustrated.

If you are more of an extrovert, it may be different. OP's gf seems more of the "extrovert" type of person, who finds other peoples company relaxing.
If the OP is introverted, she may not understand his need to relax away from people.

I'm assuming a lot about the OP and his gf based on my own experience, true, but I don't think I'm too far off the mark.
At the very least, she sounds like she needs a different level of affection to him, which doesn't make for an easy relationship.

>>1203077
Well, I am self-centred, but I'm not a bitch. My post is missing context; he was not a particularly stable person.

>>1203105
I'm also like that, I can be at max 4 days around people without feeling drained. But my gf I don't need to "recover" from because I can truly be myself around her.

To me that's what a good relationship should be.

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>>1203027
>OR or maybe OP needs to find a GF he acutally wants to spend time with.
He lives with her. He has taken multiple trips with her. He spends plenty of time with her. It's not unhealthy or unfair to want time away from your s/o, quite the opposite, in fact.

He does need to either dump her or put his foot down and explain that taking the occasional trip alone or with his friends is something he needs to be happy, and she can either accept it or have a coke and a smile and fuck off.

>You sound like a mgtow autist btw
Pic related.

I don't like to label myself or affiliate myself with any kind of movement, because when you declare yourself politically you destroy yourself intellectually. However, I do agree with a great deal of what MGTOW has to say, and acknowledge that it's arisen as a direct result of the deck being stacked against men in relationships, both in legal and social terms.

The fact that you respond to OP's objecting to his girl asking him to compromise his happiness with shaming tactics and reflexively side with his girl, whom you don't even know, purely because she's the one with the vagina, only serves to vindicate MGTOW/the manosphere in general.

>>1203029
When did he ever say he wanted to fuck other women? It sounds like he just wants to spend a weekend in Vegas/NYC/Miami/etc. with his boys, or something like that. Or fuck, maybe he wants to spend a couple weeks backpacking through SEA, which is perfectly fine too.

Absence makes the heart grow fonder. A guy needs time to himself, whether it's the occasional adventure, or just a day to be left alone playing vidya. An s/o asking to be involved in every single thing you do is selfish, unrealistic, and suffocating.

>>1203055
This chick has it right.

>>1203080
Sounds like you have a good thing going here, note the lack of "compromise." It's hard to find a match, doesn't mean you should "settle" for fear of being alone.

>>1203114
Different people want/need different things, and that's ok.

>>1203155
>that image
Kek at the mental gymnastics mgtow permavirgins need to undertake to not be suicidal.

As if female companionship is something society pressures men to get and not something that men want because it is of innate worth.

>Make Sacrifices to get pussy,

My eyes can't roll farther into head. You don't have to make huge sacrifices just a little bit of effort.

It's not that hard to get women if you don't have autism or severe mommy issues and demonize women.

But nothing can shake that retarded world view, because everyone who argues against it, is just angry at you and envious of you jerking it alone every night.

>>1203155
>when did he ever say he wanted to fuck other women?

> having a blast every single time and meeting qts everywhere

I don't know man. Sounds like a guy who wants to escape from his gf to exotic countries with his mates and is interested in other women.

I'm not saying it's wrong to do that. Just wondering what the point of a relationship is then.

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>>1203181
That wasn't OP, that was just some anon remarking on how nice it is to have a spine and tell your girl my way or the highway.

>>1203180
Wow. Code purple, black, and white all in one post. Kindly make use of the attached color coded guide and peruse the relevant rebuttals to your unimaginative rhetoric, and subsequently eat a dick.

>mgtow permavirgins
>mgtow
>permavirgins
Oh wow. Top kek. Getting women is never a problem, especially these days. MGTOW aren't against fucking women or enjoying their company, they're against compromising one's own happiness for the sake of women, who are, among other things, replaceable, or getting married to/making yourself legally vulnerable to one.

I don't hate women. I just don't feel the need to put myself in a situation where I need to answer to one indefinitely.

If that threatens you, you may want to examine why.

>>1203186
Also, I forgot

>but what about having kids/a family?

Marriage is dead as an institution; I have about as much respect and reverence for it as the law and society as a whole does, and I don't think that's unfair of me.

I've never felt the desire to have children, I find them repulsive, and this sentiment has only grown stronger as I become more and more established in life; near as I can tell having kids is something trashy, unaccomplished people do out of boredom.

I really enjoy doing what I want to do all the time, that's what makes me happy. Why on earth should I compromise that?

---Enough about me---

Back to OP, why should he deny himself what makes him happy for this woman? What's so special about her? Not a goddamn thing. FFS they aren't even married and she has the audacity to assume she can tell him when he can travel, under what circumstances, and with what company.

My advice to OP is to fuck off to Thailand and fuck all of the women.

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>>1203062
>The chance of cheating while traveling alone are raised drastically.
If you don't trust someone, don't be with them. That's not love; that's control, that's fear.

>>1203190
this is actually HYPE

>this guy has a best friend that he can chill with all the time
>he knows his girlfriend 100% won't cheat on him
>she definitely let's him fuck other people because she doesn't see anything emotional about sex

this is pretty much the best case scenario

>>1202422
Nope. Laid down the ground rules with my wife early on. Vacations worknlike this in my home. Minimum 3 a year.
1. One family vacation
2.One couple vacation
3. One solo or with friends, without the spouse and kids

She'd prefer for me to never vacation without her, though. But I don't gove a fuck.

>>1203371
Fuck you're so right... gotta get me some asexual companionship to help with this rent

>>1203374
>She'd prefer for me to never vacation without her, though. But I don't gove a fuck.

Based. We're in similar circumstances, I'm with a girl in an LTR that might work out, maybe, if I decide that's what I want, but I've also more or less laid out to her "I'm going to fuck off to Thailand once a year, and whatever happens, happens."

>>1203491
And she's agreed, thinking "whatever happens at home while he's in Thailand, happens".

If open relationships are your thing then awesome, good for you.

Just so long as you're aware it's never ends up being a one-sided deal, even if she says it is.

Was in the complete opposite, ex girlfriend was deathly afraid of flying so we couldn't ever fly anywhere, so when we did go somewhere all had to be my train.

Nightmare, ended up taking flights for travels alone and then going by train with her later in the year. She couldn't manage to navigate abroad at all so wouldn't leave her home town without me. Fucking hated it.

>>1202424
>she won't let me
Does she keep you in a leash as well?

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>>1203180
> Just a little bit of effort, goy. What kind of man are you, goy?