I've always had an idealised image of the 'white picket

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>>1113991
What's so good about this?

>>1113991
There's always going to be those niche communities, doesn't matter where in the states. Suburban lifestyle exists, which is more or less a glorified hell, and the majority of the suburbans barely cook or bake in the first place, much less have time to.

Stick to smaller towns if you want peaceful living, less stereotypes but more conservativeness there

>>1113991
In my opinion, suburbs are no longer the place to look for the classic "white picket fence" America I think you are describing. Suburbia now is more into cookie-cutter over-sized homes on too-small lots, with no soul.

Look in smaller towns what you are looking for still exists there.

>>1113991
The movie style America you are talking about is dead and gone, it existed for a brief shining moment in the 50's and has been slowly dying ever since. I can't say there are many places like that left. However as some people have mentioned, small town, or small cities are your best bet. For example my city, Worcester MA, and some surrounding towns have this unique blend of suburban life, while still being comprised of over 200,000 people. It honestly doesn't feel like a city at all, and you get to know enough faces that you always run into someone you know.

>>1113991
The dream is still alive in Canada... Just go anywhere in the Niagara Region.

That scenario exists, but it's not the norm. If you move to a suburban neighborhood to expect those happy neighbor relationships to pop up out of nowhere. Got to get lucky and find a solid friend group same as in any other location.

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>>1113991
it exists all over the west coast, but the aesthetic has changed. its not a white picket fence anymore, its cookie cutter ranch style homes

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>>1114184
there are some older homes near me that look how you imagine with a white picket fence but they arent particularly popular

>>1114184
Those communities are nothing like OP described beyond the suburban looks. The neighbors barely know each other and there's no significant cooking or community get togethers. It's just a cheap McMansion for people who want to feel like they have money that they don't have. Those places are uninspired nightmares.

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>>1114188
there are some entire neighborhoods with that aesthetic (50s style homes, white picket fence, tire swing etc.) but theyre "historic districts" where developers arent allowed to build. theyre crazy expensive and have tons of regulations

orange ca has huge areas of it near the "orange circle" which is a total 50s throwback. they film 50s movies like "that thing you do" there

but to answer your question, the neighborhoods exist, just with different aesthetics

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>>1114190
depends on the neighborhood, i grew up on a cul de sac where everyone knew each other, everyone had kids roughly within 5-10 years of each other. they would park cars to close off the street each night and we would play on the whole block like a playground/park

there difference between then and now isnt the way it looks. in the 50s, the women were home bored all day and had "the baby boom" so they all had a bunch of kids running around. so it was natural for wives to socialize while the husbands were at work and let the kids run around playing with each other. husbands worked factory jobs so it was a more normalized schedule and were all home by 5-6, most importantly they did not have to deal with work until the next day.

now both parents are gone at work all day, and people are terrified to let their children run around outside/children just want to stay inside. people work retail/service jobs that have odd hours so you no longer have a 3-5 hour block each afternoon where the whole neighborhood was home and bored at the same time. people also "disconnect" from work less, and still receive calls/texts/e-mails

>>1113991
It exists in a sense, because there is something about a planned community that has its own elementary and high school that DOES build a community around it, because of parent involvement, and care about the town.

As far as middle class, you should know that is a dying situation. There is a big difference from the prosperity of the late 80s and early 90s to what exists today, as well as some of the stay-at-home moms. What you see that you might equate like that is upper middle class in well-planned but now more expensive areas, either close to historical districts or out in suburbia, but with EXPENSIVE pricetags for being close to lucrative job markets, such as Northern Virginia. These job markets require educated professionals, and they are the new middle class who care about their children and their education, but who balance double income, and just that hopefully one parent has some flex hours in their profession to do some community involvement. This level of education bring about lower crime, and maybe lower minorities and the issues with that. The demographics in places where it has stayed predominately white or successful/college areas are found all over the US , not just in one state, but you might just go to a "best places to live" article in US News magazine to see what it constitutes.

OP here, thanks for all the replies. I'm going to stay with some relatives in North Carolina next year, would you say the small-town suburbia thing is common there? Jokes aside, how does the rest of America view North Carolina? A slightly different question, but didn't want to start a new thread.

Yes, suburbania is everywhere in the US still.
protip=IT SUCKS.
it combines the worst part's of city living with the worst parts of country living with none of the benefits.

>>1114309
There are a bunch of nice beaches... that's about all I know about it, and I've been there. I wouldn't say NC has a really strong reputation within the US for anything else.

OP realize the housewives are fat and digusting (yes, all of them) and the people are only super friendly like that in the south, where you'd probably be but thirst about the politics/religion/etc.

>>1113996
There is a distinct lack of picket fences in that neighborhood.

>>1114309
Isn't NC the nice part of Florida?

>>1114448
More than half of the us pop lives in suburban areas so you would have it that they are all idiots who do not know what is good for them. Thank you for your opinion.

The truth, OP, is that US suburbs vary quite a bit. They are generally more prosperous areas than in the city, and some are decidedly more urban than your description. Generally, the suburbs which border a city are more urban; they become more like what you describe the farther out you go.

Look at a map and find Milwaukee, Wisconsin. About 90 miles north of Chicago, it is an ordinary US city. Shorewood is a fairly urban suburb, Whitefish Bay is typified by nice houses with small yards, in Fox Point and Bayside the houses and yards get bigger, and by Mequon you are in a more open spaces kind of place. All are suburbs.

Short answer: yes, you can find such places around all cities and all are quite pleasant. That is 150 million people choose to live there.

>>1114309
Funny you mention NC, because I was going to suggest it. It exists in NC in larger areas, as well. Not just small towns. I'd suggest the Triangle region. That's Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill areas and points in between and surrounding. If you're single a bunch of eligible women looking to settle down. That dream you have is one shared by a lot of people here, including all of the transplants that keep coming to that region of NC >>1114309
from elsewhere

>>1114309
NCian here. Yeah, you can find what you are looking for here. Somebody already mentioned the Triangle region -- which is not my favorite if you have to get from place to place within the region (traffic gets pretty bad,) but still, it is pretty good. I like the Charlotte area, but again you have to consider the traffic -- getting up and down 77 to the north of town is getting to be difficult.

But look into some of the areas away from the cities -- look at Brevard, or Mooresville, look at the smaller cities like Wilmington or Asheville.

Avoid Fayetteville or Jacksonville.

>>1113991
Don't kid yourself that those picket-fence lawns are islands of content and happiness. Ever seen 'American Beauty'?

>>1113991
>close communities
Not gonna find those in suburbs. Knock on someone's door and they'll ignore you at best.

>>1114983
>they are all idiots who do not know what is good for them
This is America we are talking about, correct?

It's shit. All the families are broken. Loveless marriage. Fat wife, fat cuck hubby, kids who hate them and hide in their rooms all day. Nothing to fucking do. Hour drive to get to work or anywhere else. Heavy traffic, stressful. Nothing to do. No one can cook btw, the apple pie is from walmart now. Nothing to do. Nothing to do. Nothing to fucking do.

Stay clear. The movies lied to you.

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>>1113996

God, how do people live like this? The two houses in the center right are the pic are literally feet apart. A single dead tree in the center left. This new construction will look like shit in 20 years when the particle board these houses are made of starts to deteriorate. This was probably all pristine farmland until a year before this picture was taken.

Suburban america is a scourge.

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>>1115210
Another North CarolinIan here, yes there are a lot of transplants in the metros, but most transplants come here searching for the exact thing you're looking for (though in locals opinions they bring too much of the NE and Ohio with them). I'll dig up a link later, but one thing that speaks to the community aspect in NC is all the major festivals (spring) and county fairs (fall) that permeate the 100 counties that make up the state. Too hot for them in the summer, that's beach time, lol. But these fairs, even in small towns bring out people from all over the state. From the Azalea Festival in Wilmington, to the Seafood Festival in Morehead City and numerous others.

>>1114309
NC does indeed have the lovely Outer Banks and Kill Devil Hills gorgeous sand dunes (Wright Bros fame), combined with the major airports in and around the "Research Triangle" with lots of college power. It's a state that has fame for wooden furniture and extremely nice people with a lot of retirees, who dreamed of one day moving to the place they vacationed.

Anyway, I have family in smallish towns there and I would indeed say there is a old fashioned community going whenever the population drops below a certain point, or else it happens when people rally around a sports team or college town. Got the communities within each popular church too!

>>1115212
>Don't kid yourself that those picket-fence lawns are islands of content and happiness. Ever seen 'American Beauty'?
It's still not the majority of people who live in some level of mental illness and malcontent, whether within a marriage or a job. Fact remains prosperity creates less marital friction than struggles, so it's more often than not that it's pretty nice overall when you're in a nice house in a nice part of town.

>tfw all these naysayers don't realize THEY are the outliers

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>>1115309
>>1115001
>>1115210
Thanks everyone for the responses. People from NC, I'll be going there next february sort of time, if all goes well I'll probably look to settle down there. I'm pretty religious- I know a lot of you may not be, but would you say many of the girls in NC are religious/conservative? It seems like the Carolinas have the Bible Belt to the west and south and less religious states to the north, so I'm not sure where it stands.

>>1115592
People are religious, but most aren't obnoxiously slow, outside of everyone always asking if you have found a church home and inviting you to their church.

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>>1113991
Port Colborne, Ontario, Canada

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Crystal Beach, ON, Canada

>>1114190
Not to mention those homes are built to such shit standards. Perhaps a slim minority are built well, but most are just cheap cheap cheap chip board and plastic sheets and stucco, built by Mexicans who don't give a fuck. I feel sorry for suckers who bought McMansions that will be falling apart in 30-40 years and have virtually zero long-term appreciation.

>>1114942
wut? there's 400-500 miles in between...

>>1115272
>Suburban america is a scourge.
Yup.

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>>1113991
Drop the suburban, and pick a small New England town. Just don't talk about politics.

>>1115863
He is probably referencing the fact NC has become more popular with people leaving the Northeast and Ohio, and a large portion of that population that moved and retired to Florida have moved from Florida to NC. They're called "half-backs"

>>1115592
Most people there are religious/traditional, at least that's the stereotype in NE. So, some of those will be women.

>>1116218
They exist, it's certainly more of a 'norm' in the The South™. If you're looking for head-in-the-sand bible-thumping religious luddites, you'll find them. if you want to avoid them, you can do that too.

That said, there's an obvious correlation between the religiousness of a given place and its rates of teen pregnancy, porn use, drug addiction, etc. That is, people are people and still do the same shit, some just try harder to pretend they don't.

10 minutes outside of Newark Airport, then stretching in all directions cause Jersey is just endless burbs.