STAR FOX https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tor JHMNr04Q

>>9991969
is the one on the right supposed to be Fara?

>>9993024
Might be Fox's mom, they look alike and have the same name

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>>9991969
Reminder that Krystal is not a Star Fox character, was never intended to be a Star Fox character, and now symbolizes the decline of the series as a whole.

>>9996880
Dude, that Arwing guitar looks fuckin' sweet.

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Are genderbent Fox and crew fair game in these threads?

>>10001405
Only when it's Peppy.

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>>10001405
Of course!

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>>10001831
Then let me share what little R63 Peppy I have.

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And what better way to wrap up a collection of a R63'd StarFox crew member than with the tried and true staple of the fanbase,
The always classy Zero Suit entry.

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>>10001405
It beats posting over two hundred Krystal images in the thread.

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Aright, who is the best girl?

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Reminder that this is canon

>>10004249
its so bad, but you can never look away.

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>>10004191
Kevin Bayliss

>>10004249
Didn't someone halfway skilled redraw that entire comic?

>>9991969
Dammit, I wanted to believe A fox in Space's next ep dropped

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>>10004191
Do you really have to ask

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>>10009695
>>10009703
>>10009742

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Surprise! You are in charge of the new Star Fox game.
>Gameplay?
>Story?
Discuss

>>10011787
>Gameplay?
Basically builds on Assault but a lot more missions. Each planet/level would have two Acts: a pure arwing/vehicle one and an on-foot one (by making both have the same amount we would get rid of one of Assault's complaints which was about being mostly on-foot missions). Also while there'd probably only be one path instead of multiple like SNES/64, there could be bonus missions you can unlock by meeting special criteria or getting a bunch of medals. The Assault style versus mode comes back with more playable characters (like the rest of Star Wolf) but there's also a 64-style dogfight mode too.

>Story?
Don't know much about that but it'd be some time after Assault and Star Fox's group has more members (Miyu and Fay are finally on the team as they should have been). Probably would just involve so new threat. Eh.

>>10011906
>we would get rid of one of Assault's complaints which was about being mostly on-foot missions
The actual complaint is there were too many on foot missions, when the on foot mechanics sucked dick.

>>10012049
>The actual complaint is there were too many on foot missions
Well I don't really care for what 64fags think because Nintendo pandered to them and look what happened there.

>when the on foot mechanics sucked dick.
So fix them then. It's not like they can't be improved.

>>10012155
>Well I don't really care for what 64fags think because Nintendo pandered to them and look what happened there.
Your buttmaddery caused you to entirely miss the point I was making.

>So fix them then. It's not like they can't be improved.
No shit lol. It's amazing how rage mode you guys get just to lash out at 64 as much as possible.

>>10012293
>Your buttmaddery caused you to entirely miss the point I was making.
The point is we don't listen to what 64fags think after Zero.

>>10012436
>we
The point is you're really fuckin mad lol. I didn't even talk about 64 and you started attacking 64. Do you introduce yourself as Bob, hater of SF64?

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>>10009203

Reminder Phred Fox got butthurt when his shitty gay fan animation got shat on.

>>10012493
Honestly, I don't know the full context to all of this, but he has a point.

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Reminder Star Fox Adventures did nothing wrong and is a more deserving title to get a remake than 64, what with it failing two times in a row.

>>10012515
Redoing SF64 is a bad idea, but cmon, Adventures started the decline, Assault was meh tier at best, and command was abysmal. Don't act like it's some gem lol.

>>10012515
Assault needs the remake.

Also honest question, all the people who complained about the on foot parts being clunky, did they know you could change the controls to standard third person shooter controls? I did that immediately and had no problem with the on foot parts, my problem with assault was always that the game kept threatening to kill off characters and then didn't, much like Star Trek Into Darkness.

>>10012602
The on ground mechanics were clunky no matter how you changed the controls honestly, not even being biased, they just weren't very good. If they were refined to something more like Ratchet and Clank it woulda been sick, and allowed for snappier movement.

Assault wasn't received the best, it was by no means a terrible game, but it also was underwhelming. I like the soul of it, I like that it tried to do something new, I liked the mix of land and space, but it was just lacking mechanically. The Arwing portions brought nothing new or interesting to the table, they even felt easy and slow paced quite frankly. For me the biggest problem will always be how they kinda fucked up Star Wolf, and even Star Fox, turning them into real cardboard cutouts with no reward in their interactions.

>>10012513

Prior to his first episode and Zero launching there was a thread on Star Fox. To make this story short someone linked one or more of the clips of the upcoming first episode of this fan animation that the anon you see shitting on it for what it really is pissed Phred off. From that point more info started to surface such as.

>Phred fucks around more than he does working on this shitty animation of his
>He obviously lied his way around Nintendos C&D when he was making money off Star Fox via Patreon
>As pointed out, his site seems to mention wanting to do his own animation series but appears to need funding, in other words he's using the Star Fox IP to gain profit to fund his own project
>The fact he's friends with Chris Niosi (Kirbopher) says a lot, everyone knows Chris is a narcissistic autist who leeches off other popular users (it's why Egoraptor and many others hate him, he only cares about being popular)
>His old sketches has the same backwards viewpoints as Andrew Dobsons work does with Zelda. In Phreds case, it's mostly about "Muh Fox x Fara" since he read that not canon comic in Nintendo Power (he's in his 30s mind you).
>Got butthurt when he got 90+ asks about Krystal in the next episode, note it was an april 1st joke but still
>His animation only got the attention because Vinesauce brought it up, he even voices in it.

Is krystal an empath or telepath, and why doesn't any porn remember she can read minds

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>>10012526

Your claim would be relevant, if your info wasnt based on figures that's 20 years old. 64 failing twice really only shows that 64 was just a one hit wonder in reality. Even then all arguments against the GC titles were destroyed upon Zero being the blunder of the century, cause in reality not only was 64 just a one hit wonder, but the fantards who jerked at it like it was still the best game got massively btfo.

64 didn't go out with a bang,, but a whimper

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>>10012684

This one does
https://e621.net/pool/show/10787

>>10012661
Well I'm just playing devil's advocate here, but it's because I've been following the creative process for a while and been in contacto with him.

>Phred fucks around more than he does working on this shitty animation of his
Is this necessarily a bad thing? I mean honestly anything that deals in donations or Patreon type stuff isn't really a job per se, I mean it would behoove the person getting dosh to stick with it. Not to mention he did a lot of his work on livestream so it's pretty blatant anyone could observe his work ethic, not like it's a secret.

>He obviously lied his way around Nintendos C&D when he was making money off Star Fox via Patreon
To be fair, wouldn't that be under fair use anyway? Nintendo C&Ds anything that uses their stuff and gets mild attention, yet there are plenty of Nintendo rip pieces out there, which are monetized, and fall under fair use.

>>As pointed out, his site seems to mention wanting to do his own animation series but appears to need funding, in other words he's using the Star Fox IP to gain profit to fund his own project
All the amount of work previous to this tells me he is most definitely a Star Fox fan, and if it's a stepping stone as well, I can't fault him for wanting to create something that's entirely his.

>The fact he's friends with Chris Niosi (Kirbopher) says a lot
Kinda ad hominem, I wouldn't be friends with the guy but, I don't care that he is friends with the guy.

>Got butthurt when he got 90+ asks about Krystal in the next episode, note it was an april 1st joke but still
Yeah, people get annoyed when the fanboys roll in.

>His animation only got the attention because Vinesauce brought it up, he even voices in it.
I'd say it helped, but wouldn't say only.

>>10012705
Oh you're the one hit wonder guy lol. Again, SF and SF64 were both big and popular, and then Adventures came around, and the decline began.

Once again, tell me how a game failing in the future retroactively makes the failings of the GC games not failings. Your logic is so insane it's just not really even funny.

>>10012491
>Do you introduce yourself as Bob, hater of SF64?
No I don't and I don't hate 64, just the vocal 64fags holding the franchise back.

>>10012515
Oh great, it's the Adventuresfag...

>>10012805
>someone mentions something totally unrelated to 64
>64 IS A PIECE OF SHIT REEE WE DONT LISTEN TO 64 PEOPLE ANYMORE
>btw i dont hate 64
Okay.

>>10012819
I said the problem was that here was the on-foot missions dominated the game, while you just said there was too many, which implies the problem was not the ratio but the amount.

>>10012839
Too many that were bad.

If there were too many that were good it wouldn't be a problem now would it?

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>>10012753

It's so obvious it just pisses you off knowing 64 wasnt realistically good. That's why you keep basing it's "glory" on irrelevant info.

>SNES was only popular at the time because it was the first 3D game on console
>Realistically was the clunkiest mess imaginable, with only the soundtrack being the good thing from it
>64 was only popular at the time because it was the game that had the rumble pack with it, mindless rail shooters like this were still ok as well
>Still holds some ground, more than Zero but has not aged well at all, with the genre being dead coincidentally during the Gamecube era

A theory was even mentioned that even if Adventures never happened, Assault would've still gotten shit on anyway. The key emphasis is your argument on 20 year old sales means nothing when both the enhanced port on 3DS sold like total shit along with its shitty remake on WiiU did much worse.

In other words, Star Fox 64 was a one hit wonder the entire time. The delusion of it's "popularity" is astounding

>>10012857
>If there were too many that were good it wouldn't be a problem now would it?
You don't know this fanbase very well do you. It doesn't matter how good it could be, it would still be hated for not being muh pure railshooter gameplay.

>>10012867
>irrelevant info
I don't know how standing out as the most successful game is irrelevant but alright, if it makes you feel better.

>SNES was only popular at the time because it was the first 3D game on console
Source?

>Realistically was the clunkiest mess imaginable, with only the soundtrack being the good thing from it
Source?

>>64 was only popular at the time because it was the game that had the rumble pack with it, mindless rail shooters like this were still ok as well
Source?

Zero sucked dick, plain and simple. It was 64 in a new, yet poorly done skin, and the awful controls were force fed to you. You honestly think it did bad just because 64 sucked and no one realized it till now lol? The level of insanity intensifies.

>A theory was even mentioned that even if Adventures never happened, Assault would've still gotten shit on anyway.
Cool theory bro, sounds all sciency n shit

>The key emphasis is your argument on 20 year old sales means nothing when both the enhanced port on 3DS sold like total shit
Other ports did things, allowed new content here and there. SF3D was almost devoid of this, it was literally nothing new, furthermore you can just look at the sales trend to see the popularity of the series on a steep decline. Command was the last game, AND on a handheld, and was fucking awful. When SF3D was first talked about, it was covered up and everyone was abuzz talking about what new thing it could be. When it was revealed to be just a stock remake, yeah, people were let down. Mario and Zelda got a couple remakes, but their fanbases were still strong, and there were other new things being actively done along side them. You're surprised remake for a dying fanbase did poorly?

>In other words, Star Fox 64 was a one hit wonder the entire time.
Based on your horribly flawed logic.

>>10012873
>You don't know this fanbase very well do you.
Been here for 20 years, so yeah I'm kinda versed.

>It doesn't matter how good it could be, it would still be hated for not being muh pure railshooter gameplay.
Sure by a few people here and there. For instance people generally liked Adventures and it got a decent enough reception. Mixed opinions within the fandom for sure, but technically there was nothin wrong with it. Just wasn't a Star Fox game.

>>10012947

Too bad it is a Star Fox game, but I guess crying and screaming in delusion helps you feel better.

>>10012947
Adventures has way more problems than simply just not being a Star Fox game. Trying to turn it into one is why it got so fucking butchered.

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>>10013016

Certainly doesnt have as much problems as Zero does, why I agree with the idea of Adventures getting a remake. Knowing you though you'll cry and scream over such a thought.

>>10013006
Well yeah, it's a Star Fox title, but I don't consider Star Fox skins in Fallout 3 making it a Star Fox game you feel me?

>>10013016
I dunno, from a technical standpoint it's all there. I can feel the soul of it if that makes sense, when it's night on some icy terrain, and the somber music comes in, I can really feel what they were going for. It's a shame it had to be turned into SF, could have really been a fun adventure.

>>10013039
ITT man gets so mad his game wasn't as good as 64 that he starts thinking everyone who dislikes it is the same person

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>>10013059

>64
>Ever good

Sorry but when you have someone pointing out how poorly it did later on after its original release, it really does show how it wasnt really that good as you think it is.

Speaking of, I love how anon in >>10012933
thinks the reason 643D didnt do so well was because it had nothing for it. Yet Zelda OoT 3D came out a month after that and it wiped the floor with it. It was just a port that had master quest with it. Saying it did better than Star Fox 64 3D because it's Zelda and or more popular is not a good reason mind you.

>>10013140
>64
>Ever good

Highest rated, most memorable, most sales, biggest competitive scene out of the whole series

Yes, it was good, get over it lol.

>Sorry but when you have someone pointing out how poorly it did later on after its original release
Wow it's like everyone played it already, own it already, and don't want a remake of it. You're so moronic lol.

As to your second post, go back and reread what I wrote, one fanbase is dead, the other is quite alive. If you think that contributed nothing, I'm really sorry. You can't be helped at that point, I'm not sure what 64 fanboys did to you, but damn, that's some feminist tier level of hate towards something you don't like.

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>>10011787
>Gameplay?

Think of a combination of general Star Fox shooty action, high-mobility on-foot combat ala Vanquish, team-building like in Fire Emblem, and branching dialogue and decision points as in Mass Effect.

The Great Fox would serve as the hub in between missions, and the player would be able to access it in its entirety, interacting with the other members of the team. Peppy would act as Fox's counsel and offer the player missions, ROB would provide updates on the status of the ship and its crew, Falco would hang out in the ship's training room, giving the player a sparring partner/coach to try out new equipment and tactics, and Slippy would research upgrades to gear and vehicles.

As the player works their way through the campaign, they'd encounter other characters to recruit, all of whom offer a little something different, both as assets on missions, and as personalities outside of battle. The missions would be designed to offer multiple branching paths, with the player being challenged to prioritize missions as they come, because there's only so much time to do things. Do you take this mission where you support Cornerian forces in an attack? Or do you respond to this distress call? Depending on the player's choices, the campaign could take a number of different turns, encouraging replayability.

>Story?
Picking up in the new continuity that Zero created (i.e., a blank slate), the Lylat System finds itself under assault from an armada of blue-furred psychic warriors. Hailing from a destroyed planet named Cerinia and obsessed with notions of martial honor, they seek to conquer Lylat as both proof of their superiority and to acquire a new homeland.

Of course, this means that Krystal will feature in the narrative somehow. Initially, she shows up as an antagonist, an enemy ace whom Star Fox manages to defeat and capture. Taking her aboard Great Fox, she serves to humanize the enemy, and her ongoing interactions with Fox have grave impact on the story.

>>10013039
Remaking Adventures won't fix it because it having Star Fox in it is what is ruining it.

>>10013059
It's technically fine, but then there's the shoehorned Arwing sections, Krystal being reduced to a damsel in distress instead of a full-blown playable character, General Scales not even being thought because of Andross being shoved into the plot and other things.

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>>10013233
>Highest rated,
At the time, wouldn't have the same rating now.
>most memorable,
One liners arent memorable, let alone an unfunny meme. Realistically no one even knows 64 as it's obscure as fuck.
most sales,
At the time, but 3D and Zero, both being 64 did worse showing it wasnt really that good. Why one anon mentioned it only selling so much was for the ploy it had, having the rumble pack included
>biggest competitive scene out of the whole series
>Implying anyone plays Star Fox competitively
Not only can you not source this but why would you mention something like this? I think I know why...

>Hold a "tourney"
>Next to no one jumps in

Really makes you think

>>10013267
>Remaking Adventures won't fix it because it having Star Fox in it is what is ruining it.

>I dont want a remake of 64 but I sure dont want a remake of Adventures

Sounds like it bothers you, almost on PTSD levels. Are you perhaps afraid it might actually do better?

>>10013464
No, the franchise needs to move on instead of retreading the same old ground over and over. There doesn't need to be remakes, especially of one of the biggest nails in the coffin of Star Fox.

The only old thing that needs to be dug up is Star Fox 2 which needs to be finally released.

>>10013508

With what info I read on Adventures, it would make sense to remake it. Ignoring this thought while knowing of its original flaws is more retarded.

>Length of the game was to be longer, the final scene before the final boss was actually the halfway point of the game
>Andross was never supposed to be in this, Scales since the beginning was to be the final boss, Andross was just chucked in because of time constraints
>The mission Fox goes on turns into a multitask mission as when he helps Krystal, he then has to help her out at the same time of trying to get money
>This also makes more sense to how Krystal joins in the end as they both kick the shit out of Scales, so not only did Fox get the money he needed he got a new member

As for Star Fox 2, honestly get over it. That will never be released. It'll just get shat on anyway for not being 64.

>>10013617

JUST GET OVER STARFOX.

this franchise is dead.

>>10013617
>With what info I read on Adventures, it would make sense to remake it
Yeah, as Dinosaur Planet. Remove Star Fox from it as a whole or don't remake it at all.

>As for Star Fox 2, honestly get over it. That will never be released. It'll just get shat on anyway for not being 64.
It predates 64 though. And had it been released we wouldn't have the shitty autistic 64 fantards dictating what the games should be right now.

>>10013700

Dinosaur Planet is Star Fox now, get over it.

>>10013671

Never give up! Trust your instincts!

>>10013433
>At the time, wouldn't have the same rating now.
Source?

>Realistically no one even knows 64 as it's obscure as fuck.
>sf64 searches bring up almost 5 times more results than adventures
lol

>Not only can you not source this but why would you mention something like this?
Because people doing score runs persist to this day. Stop being retarded, face facts buddy boy. You can't actually back up any of your claims, it's all opinion.

>>10013267
I'm right there with you about Adventures mate, I wish it had a chance to stand on its own two legs instead of being frankensteined up like that.

>>10013732
>being smug about the game that sent the series on the decline
I'm not sure you know what you're happy about lol.

>>10013732
You're as bad as Zero apologists. Adventures is not a true Star Fox game. Get over it.

>>10013947

define what a "true" star fox game is, cause it sounds like it pisses you off that Adventures is a Star Fox game even if it did something completely new.

>>10014053
>game that wasn't a Star Fox game has the IP shoehorned into it when it was it's own thing for ages
>lol it was a Star Fox game

>>10013700
>>10013938

>Still whine over some Rare game that has no hard evidence of being good on its own
>Disregarding how Rare was shit around the end of the N64
>Game gets converted for the better
>Bitch when people want to see it remade to the point of saying it should be what it originally was
>Implying that issnt being as butthurt as still holding onto 20 year old info

>>10014111
>Game gets converted for the better
>sales halves
>rare devs voice their distaste for the change
>mixed opinions within the fanbase
>for the greater good
lol

>Bitch when people want to see it remade to the point of saying it should be what it originally was
So you're saying you want to remake it as not a Starfox game?

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>>10014099

Oh did I trigger you buddy? I seem to of asked for a definition, not your autistic screeching of a Star Fox game that pissed you off.

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>>10014111
>Game gets converted for the better

>>10014133
>Adventuresfag still salty that his shitty game failed

>>10014133
He's saying that if you stripped everything Starfox from the game, you'd still have a game that's like 95% complete.

All the Starfoxy stuff adds nothing to the game, and the few bits of Starfox that are there are just there because if it's not, they couldn't call it a Starfox game. All they essentially added was crummy Arwing segments, a Fox McCloud skin for the original character, and Andross as the final boss. That's really it.

It feels like a fan mod.

>>10014128

You're bitching over people wanting a remake of Adventures that you then scream of how it should just be Dinosaur Planet which says to everyone that it pisses you off still that you never got the game that would've just been shat on by Zeldafags.

By the way, looking at Zelda even that shit declined upon Majoras Mask and Wind Waker. The only time there was a minor comeback was with Twilight Princess, but it plummeted again with Skyward Sword along with every other game that followed suit. So why act like Star Fox is the only series that dropped when even shit like Zelda did too? Even Fire Emblem declined to the point where it almost died.

>>10014155

>Adventures
>Failed

Pfft, I think the greatest choice mark says a lot, and that mark meant it succeeded. Where's Zeros?

>>10014248
>You're bitching over people wanting a remake of Adventures
No, I just don't think remakes are the answer. They need to take their lickings from the failures of both the 64 remakes, and the crummy Adventures timeline, and start with something new. No more remakes, no more fan pandering.

>So why act like Star Fox is the only series that dropped
Because unlike those other series it never recovered. Adventures hit, it halved sales and was of mixed opinion. Assault hit, it halved sales again, was considered meh tier, command hit and it was just awful all around, them the 64 remake hit and it was received okay but no one bought it. Zero tried to sell as something new to drum up support and it was awful, along with force feeding of bullshit Miyamoto wanted to push.

The fanbase is ded, thinking ANOTHER remake is a good idea, is just, you should work for Nintendo cuz you'd fit in well.

>Pfft, I think the greatest choice mark says a lot
They give that away like candy you know.

>>10014549
>They give that away like candy you know.

The point is it applied to games that succeeded, Adventures and even Assault managed to. Command never got it, 64 3D never got the selects label except for in Europe but even that isnt helping it, and Zero doesnt have it either. In fact all the 1st editions are still there warming up the shelves.

>>10014801
It just means it sold a million copies. Big difference between a players choice that sold 4 million and players choice that sold 1.5

>>10012515
No.

>>10012602
No.

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>>10001405
The lack of Krystal x Fem Fox /u/ material baffles me.

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>>10011787
Pretty much Star Fox 2 2 .Nintendo already seems content with cannibalizing parts of it so I see no problem in them revisiting it's gameplay entirely.

Command doesn't count.

>>10016989

Command's officially not canon.

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>>10011787
>Gameplay?
All of the individual playstyles from the franchise, broken up into their own levels. The game emphasizes the mercenary aspect, and the player takes on missions from all over the galaxy. The game is structured so that the player chooses what kind of mission, and therefore what kind of gameplay, they want, and can complete the game doing just Arwing missions if they choose. Player also buys new ships, weapons and hires new pilots, with the AI getting a massive upgrade so there's an actual reason to invest in them. Basically a mix of Star Fox, MechWarrior 2/4 Mercenaries, Ace Combat, and so forth.

>Story?
Fuck if I know, they can reboot 1 for the dozenth time for all it matters as long as the gameplay isn't a simple rehash. If the game involves taking missions at the player's discretion then the story should allow for numerous branching paths depending on what missions they do.

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>>10011787
I make it not a star fox game.

>>10012661
>everyone knows Chris is a narcissistic autist who leeches off other popular users
do you have any recent proof of this? hes one of the few artists i remember from when newgrounds was relevant.

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>>10011787

Third person, some flight involved but not the main focus

Galactic tyrant shows up to not only conquer the Lylat System, but to track the one who gave off the signal aa special radar he has picked up.

>>10019466

Some of those from Fireball20xl, Psyguys shithole of a site, stepped up and explained shit about both Psyguy and Kirbophers behavior. Unlike Psyguy who turned out to being a misogynistic pedophile, Kirbopher's apparently a spaghettilord autist who leeches off the big guys popularity yet manages to make himself look professional in front of his fans.

Sources, there's possibly more

http://amethystlashiec.tumblr.com/post/149675473816/update-on-the-kirbopher-thing

http://soulbends.tumblr.com/post/149056949495/regarding-chris-kirbopher-niosi

http://cailencrow.tumblr.com/post/149322977286/publicly-acknowledging-your-wrongdoings-the

Brawl Funnies plays a role in it as cailens post metions

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/494508

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/494509

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>>10019466

>Kirbopher
>Artist

Fucking pick one

>>10019750
thanks, ill read into this.

>>10014133
>posts of a Herro pic
>side of arguement completely dismissed

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>>10020147

What did Herro do this time? I thought people liked that image.

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Hey guys what's going on in this thread?

>tfw both slowly losing interest in working on your fic and too busy to do it anyway
Well this fuckin sucks

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>>10021178
Do it , friend. Don't forget to post it!

>>10019750

I forgot to mention, what's hilarious is that firball20xl was where Boxer Hockey was, which if you're not familiar with that comic, it was a webcomic Tyson Hesse made before he got into Archie to work on the Sonic Mega Drive series.

Hell he did the animation for the trailer of Sonic Mania.

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>>10019750
>>10020084
reading into this, do you have any sources that arent from SJWs? i also wont be watching those animations just based on the way that last guy described what they were.

heres what i gathered reading this.

dii is a typical tumblrina. the only "abuse" xer has suffered is verbal, and only then i cant find any proof. the evidence xor links is vague and has no context, and it doesnt even sound like its all that bad. the only thing made clear by xug through this blog is that xod is a giant hypocrite that has fun mocking people xas doesnt like but then turns around and demands apologies when it happens in return. xerxes is no longer a female, is a feminist (SJW), has "PTSD," "attempted suicide," and so on. xaz is a faggot and i wont accept anything xop says as proof of anything. in fact this blog has only served to make me respect kirb and liz more for telling xut to go fuck xitself.

cailen appears to be a man hating fucking white male turned SJW. i cant be sure because i stopped reading his blog once he confirmed it with his shit about how he wasnt aware he was hurting women inadvertently, apologized and was baptized into the church of feminism.

now i wont say kirb is perfect because that doesnt exist. however, these blogs arent very damning. i cant condemn a guy for trying to become known by getting his name spread around. its a logical idea and its literally how hollywood works. you think all those big name actors get parts because theyre just that fucking amazing? you get work when youre known, not when youre good. it helps to be both, but one certainly has way more impact than the other.
if thats all hes guilty of then really theres no reason to care.

>>10021699
I'm too invested to kill it now.

>>10022666
thanks satan

>>10022047
das coo bro ima be jackin it to furry porn no

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I hate this model but it can be a guilty pleasure

Its mainly Leon/Falco (because I need to get this ship out of my system) with some secondary Fox/Wolf.

Dont know what I'll do with Katt herself but there will be some Katt/Falco alluded to.

I'm taking Krystal in a different direction (because au and its my shitty fiction anyway) backstory/character wise and If I'll be pairing her with anyone it won't be for this fic. It'll probably be Panther though.

I think Panther/Krystal has potential to be really cute but everybody focuses on the wrong aspects in my opinion. Not a fan of the Panther/Krystal/Fox love triangle.

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>>9995368
What's your point, anon?

>>10026071
PSA

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>>10022666
>Three sets of repeating digits
Write it

>>10027395
This pic would be good if it wasn't for that pussy bulge.

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>>10029396
>>10027395

How's this?

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>>10040797
Cernian Milk:
Its got fucking Calcium

>>10047536
better

>>10030646
That's great! Thank you based anon.

>>9991969
I want to fuck that ocelot

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>>10017035
what were they thinking?

>>10051272

Rumor has it Command writing was taken from fanfics and when cuthbert supposedly asked a forum for input

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>>10051383
Of course he would choose shit fanfics

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>>10052844
That's not how boobs work, man.

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>>10046706
Best girl

>>10054756
dat armpit hair

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>>10054756

>Best
>4th place out of Miyu, Fay, and Krystal

Not even that remark she made helped.

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>>9995368
The very first piece of gameplay in Dinosaur Planet was going to be a rail shooter. Get over it.

>>10055447
Get over what?

>>10047536
How am I supposed to fap to this? There's no cucking or worty dicks

>>10055533

Assuming your new to these threads, to save a ton of effort. Judyfag's essentially a butthurt nostalgiafag who for some reason holds this grudge over Nintendo getting Dinosaur Planet converted into a Star Fox game. Considering how long ago it's been since then really makes it pathetic, also he seems to hold onto sales figures from 20 years ago when evidence points out how despite its high sales at the time, its port and remake did horrendous. The key emphasis of this argument is if 64 was as great as it was 20 years ago it would've still did very well both on 3DS and the WiiU but neither of them did. Which is why the comparison of both Mario and Zelda are brought up because back then those three on the N64 were fucking big.

Mario 64s remake did better along with Ocarina of Time 3D, Star Fox 64 3D barely sold a fraction while Zero did much worse. There's no other excuse for this other than 64 wasnt that great of a game all along. You were just a dumb kid at the time that thought this shit was great.

p.s. Judy a shit

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>>10055708
But I'm the Judyfag, nice painting up an intense picture though lol.

>also he seems to hold onto sales figures from 20 years ago
>gravity is no longer relevant because it was understood a long time ago
This is your logic.

>despite its high sales at the time, its port and remake did horrendous.
And? Like I said, no one wanted another remake. Blame 64 fags all you want, it was a letdown when it was found out the "new" Starfox stuff Miyamoto promised was just a port, and then all the "new" stuff he promised for Zero never actually existed, and it was just another remake, with fucking god awful controls. Why is this a hard concept for you?

>key emphasis of this argument is if 64 was as great as it was 20 years ago
That was never actually a key emphasis of the argument. Ever. Goalposts much.

>Mario 64s remake did better along with Ocarina of Time 3D, Star Fox 64 3D barely sold a fraction while Zero did much worse.
Both OOT3D and Mario 64 didn't do as well as the original, and that's with fandoms that are alive and kicking. Look at any major complaint of any of the games, including assault. It isn't that SF64 sucked and therefore any game like it sucks, it's that there's nothing new / shit controls / being fed false info to hype a game.

>There's no other excuse for this other than 64 wasnt that great of a game all along.
Simple mind buddy, legit. If you really think the most memorable, highest rated, best selling Starfox game sucked, and that's the ONLY reason Zero and SF3D could have failed, you've got a massive, massive chip on your shoulder. I'm 100% real talk mang, that's some serious fuckin grudging against 64fags that you need to find some reason to attack the game they enjoy, that you're willing to delude yourself so hard, you think the only way a game could have failed, is because a game way back at the start was awful lol.

That's like saying shadow the hedgehog is awful because original Sonic games sucked dick. It has no place in reality.

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>>10055947

>Says anon is deluded
>Still thinks 64 is good

I think miiverse is that way friend, but really your anger is too amusing.

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>>10056252
>gets btfo
>best he can do is talk about the miiverse cuz someone made him mad there
I accept your defeat.

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>>10056302

Your ego knows no bounds apparently, but I guess whatever floats your boat kiddo. You're always right while everyone else is wrong no matter the evidence shows how godawful 64 was.
Just like a certain fat fuck artist everyone hates.

>>10008623
I heard about this, anybody got it saved?

>>10008623
>>10056515

It's on e621, just search Lust_Penis

What's awful is the guy who did it draws a lot of dick piercing shit along with a ton of other weird stuff

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>>10056439
>Your ego knows no bounds apparently
I explained why thinking the only reason Zero and SF3D bombed, is because 64 was shit, was a stupid and narrow minded way to think. How is that being egotistical? I'm sorry if I triggered you, but the fact of the matter is your "evidence" is not evidence. 2 games bombed, your only theory is it's because 64 sucked.

That's all you have, and it's retarded. All kinds of remakes and ports and redos and re-anything has failures. Does this mean the only reason they failed is because the original must be shit? Not even you can be that dumb to suggest that.

Who is this person you keep bringing up lol, like, I don't think you realize how obscure it is to keep jabbing at someone that annoyed you, here of all places. What did this person do to you? It's either someone from the miiverse or some blogger or forumgoer you keep bringing up as some kind of insult.

Either way, the point is "no matter the evidence shows how godawful 64 was." is something I want to see, show me that evidence. No, speculation is not evidence. Saying a reboot doing poorly is because the original sucked dick is not some kind of factual example, it's opinion, it has, I won't say no, but little basis in reality, and once again it's sinfully narrow minded, that you are mentally incapable of even considering there may be more reasons a reboot / remake could fail, EVEN WHEN said reboot / remake were at the end of a dwindling fandom, made false promises, and were overall poorly done from a mechanics standpoint.

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>>10056718

Boy i've seen delusion but never on this level. I think the point you're missing is 64 was truly the result of the decline of the series due to autismal bullshit pertaining to standards so unfair it makes pokefags of the gen 1 line look good.

64 was never good, no matter the sales figures from 20 years ago say. The fact is, no one cares but only you and then get buttblasted when you're told of the harsh reality when its port of the game sold like shit along with its remake being even worse overall. If 64 was such a great game 20 years ago, then there would be no excuse for it to not fail on 3DS or WiiU, but it did, thus proving even further how it was never a good game.

Did someone bother you elsewhere lol? Is that why you go out of your way to find these threads 24/7? Just to repeat the same garbage you spew "for the lulz" as you said once before? Is that why you avatarfag as the worst girl from a mediocre movie?

Pretty sad to see how someone so asshurt would do something like this. It's pretty much why these threads never happen.

>>10052844
horrifying

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>>10057226
>I think the point you're missing is 64 was truly the result of the decline of the series
How was doubling sales and higher ratings a decline? Do you know what a decline is?

I like that you're so broken by me the best you can do is try to take what I said, and turn it around in your posts. I'm flattered, I know my style is best.

You come back when you actually come back with evidence, till then, you enjoy being wrecked with facts.

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>>10054756
I think Miyu is best girl personally

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>>10057334

I dont think someone understands the idea of the possibility that a "masterpiece" could actually be it's biggest downfall. In this case you blame a sequel, yet fail to realize the game you hold so dear to based on two decade old sales figures means nothing when its port performed like shit. While a port of another game that released about 20 years ago outdid it easily.

Why act like 64 was so great still? Do you realize how deluded you are to think that it's still good? It's so sad to see how there are still some people who live in the past, but I digress.

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>>10057595
>more conjecture
>still no facts
Le yawn, look, I'm not saying 64 is the most godsend creation in the world, I'm saying it was a good game. Adventures was a good game too, just a bad Starfox game, and the whole ordeal was handled POOOORLY. We all see where the trend was, we see where the loss of interest was, we see the game half its sales over and over starting with Adventures, we see the mixed opinions that started with Adventures. The fandom has been at an all time low since command, they tried to hype us with new SF shit, only for them to come out with a port, nothing impressive or new that they were pushing, and then they come out with Zero. Once again hyping it as new and innovating, blatantly lying about the story, only to come out with a shitty force fed controlled reboot. Why is it difficult to see why those games weren't popular?

>>10057821
why are you posting zootopia pictures in a star fox thread?

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>>10058122
Fox n peppy homage.

>>10058446
well please stop

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>>10058522
You asked nicely so alright.

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Video games live and die on the quality of the games. Blaming a single character for existing is ultimately a red-herring. You can make a good Star Fox game with or without Krystal. You can make a bad Star Fox game with (Command) or without (Zero) Krystal. Her mere existence is absolutely irrelevant when it comes to the health of the franchise in general and doesn't symbolize anything beyond entry-level furry fap material (of which the franchise already has plenty without her).

>>10058712

Pretty much, yet it's funny to see someone so mad over something that happened 20 years ago. Why it pisses him off even more if you wanting a remake of Adventures.

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>>10058712
I never said she was the reason WHY the game failed, and the game didn't even really "fail", just that she symbolizes the decline.

Which she does.

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>>10058957

That sounds pretty sexist if you ask me, blaming a girl for something she had no responsibility for?
Only proves that whole scapegoat bullshit which hilariously backfired when Zero bombed.

Some people just handle their loss, explains the massive damage control that went on for two weeks when that shithole Zero came out.

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>>10059187
I don't think you understand the different between her being the reason, and her symbolizing.

I'm not sure how to help you see the difference.

>>10059256

Symbolizing someone for no real reason is retarded, especially with this trend going about, you could easily be viewed as a misogynist for doing that.

If you're going to do something like that, pin in on Rare, they were shit even before they were bought out. DK64 is the best example of them barely even trying, even nostalgiafags admit it was damn shallow.

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>>10059312
>you could easily be viewed as a misogynist for doing that.
Who cares? You a feminist or something cancerous of the like?

Of course I pin it on Rare, Krystal could have been a standalone, they could have done something original, and at the very least she could have stood on her own two feet as a lead in her game.

Now she's Fox food, a generic love interest, a background character to make Panther jealous to make the kiddies go "ooooOOOOOOOOO" when she acts loyal.

hey guys I made a thing, check it out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yfugo15RU9M

>>10059669

Yet you refuse the idea of Adventures being remade. You say you want to see more of her, but you seem to bitch more about her than anything. You dont seem to know what you want.

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>>10059943
>You say you want to see more of her
Cite where I said that.

>but you seem to bitch more about her than anything.
Where have I bitched about her?

>You dont seem to know what you want.
Perhaps your grasp on communication may have blurred your understanding that it appears to you I don't know what I want.

At this point it's too late, it would really, REALLY have to take a radical act to make her even remotely good in my eyes. Like I said, what they did with Lola in the new Looney Tunes stuff, turning her from a boring, horrible stronk woman cringe / sex joke into a really nutty, off the wall, bursting with personality character.

They would need to radically alter her, if they just keep her the same in some kind of remake, it just wouldn't add anything and you'd have the same problems in her lane as before.

I never really bitch about her, I've always bitched about what Rare did, what the fans hyped expectations did, and what Miyamoto did. I have always, ALWAYS firmly believed that trifecta is what led to the decline in the series, but Krystal is the statue that reminds us of why.

>Yet you refuse the idea of Adventures being remade.
I said it better earlier but cmon. It's Starfox 64 in reverse. 64 was a good game, Adventures was a good game albeit a bad Star Fox game. So they took 64, ported it, tried to reboot it, and no one wanted it. We've already played it, the fandom dwindled, they ported a game to a fandom that crashed after Command, and then tried to hype, turning out to be ANOTHER remake, which blundered for many reasons. The fact is, the fandom is dead, you need to engage new people while still trying to hold onto the soul of what got people interested. So we have port and reboot blunders

It's funny because when the remakes on that side of the coin blunder, you're ready to stand up and say no more, yet you fully advocate to remake an even less popular game, to a fandom that has diminished greatly.

That's just a bad idea, and we don't need it

wtf is wrong with this guy?

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>>10060615

Self proclaimed troll who realistically is about as retarded as barneyfag. They refer to him as the /ztg/cuck for obvious reasons

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>>10060658
Once again gets btfo when he's unable to prove his misrepresentations of me, so he just stops responding and gives indirect insults lol.

No wonder you brought up misogyny, you're actually an SJW aren't you?

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>>10060730

>gets btfo that he pretends to be someone else
>Samefagging and even avatarfags

LOL

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>>10060788
Wha? Why do you think I'm trying to pretend I'm someone else lol.

Are you new?

>>10060804

>N-No i'm not prtending!!11!!1!

btfo

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>>10060826
Point out the posts you think are me replying to myself.

>>10060863

>I'I'm still not samfagging!1!!1!!!

AHAHAHAHAHA

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>>10060889
Ah, you reached the mad limit. This isn't the first time I've broken you lol, as usually, I'll let you burn yourself out buddy.

>>10060924

>Oh man he's so mad, hahaha I won

Did I break you that much that your deluded mind went overdrive?

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>>10060658
he isnt as bad as Revved

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>>10060992

>threatening someone incapable of doing anything

holy shit

i thought i was the only one who can't fucking stand lock-ins

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hot off the oven

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>>10062060
please put it back in the oven

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>still blames a character over the state of starfox
The fail and willful ignorance in this thread. Every nintendo home console, excluding the wii, sold less than the previous gen. I suppose Mario is to blame for the decline in home consoles sold over the years.

This is my first and last comment to this thread. So don't bother responding to me. I'm not sticking around to see you further go on about how a sole character "changed the face of starfox." Last time I checked, that falls directly on the developers.

I've got better things to do than to sit around and watch babies cry. And now I take my leave to /g/. At least the conversations there are better than this.

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>>10063803
The sad realization when you did in fact read the reply since you simply can't resist it.

Really though, I never blamed Krystal FOR the decline, wonder why so many people are dense about that.

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>>10064337

>Now i'm not blaming her for the decline but I am blaming her

You literally just said you symbolize her as such

>>10063803
Nice to meet a fellow /g/entoomen

>>10065710
She symbolizes.

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>>10069194

Same thing as blaming, you just dont want to admit to it.

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>>10069214
I'm sorry you're simple minded and think symbolizing is blaming. Not much I can do to help ya there but encourage you to read more or somethin.

what the fuck is happening

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>>10069513
The quality of Internet arguments

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>tfw we'll never see the latest, allegedly complete dev build of Starfox 2

>tfw even if it ever showed up, it'd be some reddit faggot who'd find it, and then turn it in to nintendo for a cookie, like with the starcraft source code

Oh you better believe I still mad.

>>10069931
SF2 sucked tho.

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>>10069513
People falling for an autist's bait

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>>10070729
I VERY strongly disagree with that statement

>>10057595
Will Heresy ever draw nipples?

>>10075479
Well, it got cancelled so.

>>10075793
Yeah, because Nintendo didn't want it to out do SF64.

>>10076019
>game with no clear structure besides move around a small map while things appear
>outdo anything
More like they didnt want to waste the money on it

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>>10075640
Are nipples even real?

>>10076055
>More like they didnt want to waste the money on it

that's why they made a game extremely similar to it on the DS, right

:^)

SF2 was canceled because the N64 was releasing next year and they wanted to really illustrate the graphical difference between SNES and N64.

And just because a game is not completely on-rails-linear does not mean it has "no clear structure", you dingdong.

>>10077866
>that's why they made a game extremely similar to it on the DS
That failed miserably.

>>10076055
>game with no clear structure besides move around a small map while things appear
I can tell you haven't played it, or maybe you were just shit at it.

>>10076055
That's the incomplete prototype.

The full dev build is much more fleshed out, but unfortunately we'll never see it.

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>>10077892
>review scores all around 70-80

you have a really weird definition of "failed miserably", anon

>>10077938
>the magical full build was better
kay.

>>10077916
Yep, played it. And was good at it, played it a few times. Game was incomplete and jumbled.

>>10077968
>lowest selling SF game of all time
>lowest rated SF game short of Zero
Yeah what a gem.

>>10078044
>"low sales"

I guess Earthbound also "failed miserably" since it sold badly

>comparing it to other games

so an 8/10 is now "failed miserably" since it's not as high as the others

nice job moving the goalposts, butthurt anon

>>10078077
>8/10
User scores are 7 at best.

>I guess Earthbound also "failed miserably" since it sold badly
Sales are relative. Earthbound increased sales from Mother by roughly 3 times.

Command decreased sales from SF peak horrendously, we're talking 4 mil vs .5 mil.

Stop being mad your game wasn't good enough to be released.

>>10078220
>7/10 is a failure

nice meme

>Sales are relative

oh, but ratings aren't?

how convenient :^)

>Stop being mad your game wasn't good enough to be released.

nice job arguing your point from the premise that it is true

>>10078666
>oh, but ratings aren't?
They are, it's the lowest rated SF game short of command.

You fools, the best SF is EASILY Melee. The competitive scene is still alive and strong, and the game itself is great both casually and competitively.

>>10082037

>melee

Kys

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>>10081502
I never got the appeal of this

>>9996880
Fay a QT

>>10083369
Fat people will often pretend fat shit looks good to make themselves feel better.

Rather than losing weight it's easier to just imagine it as something beautiful.

Starfox Zero is an abomination. I don't care about reviews or sales. It is a low-effort, shoddy, unintelligent game that doesn't push a single envelope.

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>>10083369
War is peace
Freedom is slavery
Fat is beautiful

>>10087642
>Fat is beautiful
Some people thing traincrashes with multiple casualties are beautiful, but that doesn't mean any person with even a slight sliver of common sense does.

>>10088407
what the fuck

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>>10088407
I think you missed the reference my dude

>>10088407
please don't type like this if you struggle with basic english.

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>>10088407
Lol

>>10083369
More cushion for the pushin'

Live

Morning

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What's your OTP /trash/?

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>>10081502
>>10083369
Krystals is a best.
Krystal > White Castle

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>>10076055
>game with no clear structure besides move around a small map while things appear

this is literally why I like SF2 more than any other starfox game

>>10110851
Well it's good you're in the minority.

>>10075640
if you commission him

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>>10103240
wolf&fox
but only if they've got proper dongers

>>10012493
This guy made a legit good point on top of having made a good animation. You are butthurt. In the end, he wins, and you lose. kys :^)

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>>10012661
>Being genuinely concerned about how he respects Nintendo's IP
>Being concerned about how assiduous he's at producing something you hate
>Using money to make a project is "profit"

You can hate the series. Nobody's forcing you to like it. But reaching this far to have problems with it is downright pathetic.

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>>10112746

>Respecting Nintendos IP, ever
>Gay jokes out the ass along with the whole thing being a hamfisted venture bros overall

Rather watch that unfunny shit Brawl Taunts or Nin10d0h than your gay ass series, Phred.

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>>10112684

Go back to tumblr and bitch about whatever dumb shit that pisses you off Phred.

>>10113033
>>10113123
Did Fred fuck your mom or somethin?

>>10113123
>footfag
why do you degens exist

>>10113123
>the cartoon has tons of fans
>someone defends it
>must be phred lol

Reminder: You are alone in your struggle

>>10113033
There's one gay joke in the entire video. You're making it out like it was the whole thing. What the fuck is wrong with you? Were you molested by your big brother or something? It's okay dude, the gays won't get you even if you let them exist.

>>10113382
To be fair he did admit his angle was to make Wolf and Fox fall in love.

I mean, I don't give a fuck, but it is on his mind.

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>>10113371

>Implying he has tons of fans
>Implying it wasnt because of Vinesauce and Kirbopher shilling his garbage

Hey I mean, if you like sucking cock I guess. I guess you dont see my point.

>>10058957
Well then who fuckin gives a shit

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>>10113426
I dunno bro you tell me. People keep responding to it, not my fault.

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>>10113413

>Wolf x Fox

Other than >>10103240 literally every single thing about this is the same shit. It can be argued about the girls, but for some reason with Fox, Falco, and Wolf, it's always the exact same thing.

>>10113413
https://soundcloud.com/angel-abolfia/elevator-freaky

>>10113455
But I'm asking why you put it in your moot point
But if you don't really care, I won't really care, and I like the new reaction images

>>10113424
Something being "shilled" doesn't automatically make it popular. If it didn't have qualities to it, it wouldn't have become popular. Stop being angry at him for being successful.

>>10113558
Cuz the truth annoys people.

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>>10113622

Cause something as shitty as FNAF didnt become popular because a bunch of cancerous youtube e-celebs and LPers like Markiplier shilled the fuck out of it. Makes a whole lot of sense and mind you many hate the series despite its success.

The point is his shit would've most likely been overlooked had he not have gotten the advertising from Vinesauce, or at best been about as decent as any other fan animation. Doesnt mean the series is good anyway as you seem to think.

>>10113548

Christ the voice acting is terrible.

>>10113854
Why r u so salty tho

Are you that dude that got btfo by fredyboy?

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>>10113871

Spotted the newfag, but I am curious about this claim you got. Do elaborate, if you even can.

>>10113913
Replying to the wrong person or just not very good at the English?

>>10113913
after all these years I think I've finally figured out what bothers me so much about crystal's design
why is she the only character that has a head of hair other than her fur coat

>>10113968

I think the real question is, you really think she'd look good with a generic surface of fur? In a sense Fox has a mohawk.

>>10114013
yeah but it's much more fluidly implemented into his design
she's just got a moptop of blue hair from nowhere

>>10113968
she's overdesigned in general
>2 headbands and beads in hair
>bands on tail
>bunch of fur markings/tattoos
looks more like a FA OC than a starfox character

>>10111955
>paying for art

>>10065710
>krystal wearing wolf's eyepatch
cute

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Miyu a best

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>>10114838

K, but that sounds pretty autistic to bitch about hair. Shit both Katt and that one girl from the promo short have hair too

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>>10118739
not really, she's got what fox/wolf got

>>10118819

It's still hair in a way, i'm just saying you're nitpicking.

I'm gonna use Bucky o Hare and his team as an example since they're easily comparable to Star Fox, other than the kid genius Willy, Jenny has hair while Bucky and the others dont.

The point is it's not only just nitpicking but it's very possible for humanoids to have hair. Remember, Krystal's from a planet outside of the Lylat system so it's more possible for creatures like her and really anyone else to have it. The possibilities are endless to say the least.

Guys...it's happening!

http://www.nintendo.com/super-nes-classic
>For the first time ever, play the never-before-released Star Fox 2

>>10119042
THREAD THEME:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIEwrR6U0m8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beNPTyi5vME

>>10119042
holy shit that's pretty cool

>>10119254
It is indeed. A shame the damage to the franchise by cancelling is already done though.

At least Miyu and Fay will finally be official.

>>10119355
>Miyu and Fay
Oh right, they were never given proper names. Place your bets on what their names will be.

>>10119042

>Implying any of you will be able to get this

>>10119383
What? No! I like those names. They better not change them.

>>10119387
What are you implying?

>>10119387
I have 6 of the famicom classics sitting around that my roommates abandoned after 2 weeks
I'll be fine with getting one of these
>>10119405
the nes/famicom classics sold out instantly everywhere

>>10119405
Pre-orders are already sold out. Get ready to cough up whatever insane prices scalpers have in store.

>>10119412
>the nes/famicom classics sold out instantly everywhere
Oh... for some reason I thought you were implying none of us were able to afford it or something.

>yfw "Star Fox 2" is just one of the bootleg prototype ROMs

>>10119427
>Pre-orders are already sold out
it's not even up for sale anywhere yet

>>10119456

This, I called fucking gamestop to see if they're taking orders. Not only do they not know about it, but they dont think they will.

Instead they may do what they did with the NES classic and only sell 1 per family

>>10119456
It will be when you go to sleep.

>>10119456
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nintendo-SNes-Classic-Edition-Mini-30-Games-pre-order-/272736321273
PRE-ORDERS FOR PRE-ORDERS.