Endtown thread - Bronco Killer, Qu'est-ce Que C'es

Strip's up.

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Previous strip.

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Current strip. Not a happy face.

>>9675952
Talk shit
Get bricked

>>9675952

I don't know about you, but this strip really got my heart pumped. good shit.

>>9675952
Ironic how that wolf did end up being a victim. He was all bark and no bite.

>>>/co/92923245

>>9675952
Terrible feeling this is going to get back to Dottie and be used to push her further down the path Aaron's got her on. Like she'll write an article calling this a hate crime instead of getting all the available facts.

>>9676328
That is too predictable for Aaron.

-notJenner

>>9676411
Nice callback.

I've occasionally wondered if Jenner was ever in the /co/ threads, but I doubt an umpty-year-old Australian doctor who thinks video games are a communicable disease would be on 4chan.

>>9675952
Is this the first frog/amphibian we've seen?

>>9675952
Ahhh. It's been a while since Endtown's had a good death and drama.

Missed it. Let's hope this snowballs into a good arc.

>>9677484
Careful, you'll jinx it.

But seriously, the issues with this arc are just on the back-burner for now while we focus on a near-silent suspense sequence. We'll have to see if Aaron can resolve them with whatever might be coming up. I suspect the answer will be "not completely".

>>9675952
Wait, what's the geometry of the situation, here?

Looks like he came through the alley, she struck from around the corner, the first blow wasn't fatal and he staggered over near the fence, then he fell and she hit him again and again until he was dead?

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>>9676328
>>9676411
>>9677720
>Walt unaccountably fails to follow through on inevitably-public harassment charges against wolves despite apparently starting the arc as a bit of a vigilante
>Dottie conveniently comes into the riot scene at the exact right moment to get her brand new biases reinforced and then publishes another pro-wolf article
>first witness to the alley attack sees Heather looking like a murderer who waylaid a wolf victim rather than a case of self-defense

>totally not gaming the plot in service of a specific outcome

>>9675952
wolf deserved it
he was gonna hurt the waifu

Gocomics crew are saying schism (and conflating schism with automatic Eye-possession again).

Doesn't non-Eye schism make you go full-animal, though? A "yowling maniac"?

This just looks like Heather's gone turbo on her usual distressed state and had a psychotic break.

>>9677209
Was thinking the same. There could have been one at Hank's event thing.

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>>9679373
/co/ thread found a frog/toad at the Rocket Meeting.

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Every day we stray further from God's light.

>>9679757
Hasn't that already been done?

>>9679757
>"God's" light
A light isn't true just because its bright.

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>>9679757

>in /trash/
>complaining about people requesting porn

at least is not chic shota

>>9679873

We had Farx maid suit lewds
We had Jim and Wally dressed as women
We had Wally chained up and naked with some possum...

...are you new here?

>>9679900
>>9679918
It's a meme ya dip.

>>9679873
There's some stuff that emasculates him but not something exactly like that, AFAIK.

>>9679943
Yeah, I thought we'd seen something along those lines. Possibly one of KC's accidental femboys, even.

>>9679329
I wrote to Aaron and he said it's not schism syndrome.

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>>9679757
>tfw when Jimfag and bunnyfag but not fagfag

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>>9680017
>KC's accidental femboys

>>9680043
KC's muscle-memory makes him draw curvy males.

>>9680066

so, you saying he can't draw males? for how long he's been on the commission business?

>>9679918
It's always femboy this, ballbusting that... why can't he just have vanilla sex with his r63 self?

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>>9680028
Heather is a laundress. Maybe it was an uncontrollable instinct to remove filth.

>>9680028
Mixed feelings.

On one hand we've actually yet to see someone go full-schism (without possession) and it would be somewhat more interesting than this, personally speaking.

On the other, schism didn't really make sense for what little we know of her and the setup indeed spoke more to the further ruination of her life with her self-aware enough to experience it (and then there's the stuff with her "suicided" pig friend, meaning she's still got something looming for her), so this makes more sense.

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>>9680206
>we've actually yet to see someone go full-schism
I think Cliff was schisming when he tried to eat Holly and I'm think that is just the extent of the schism is just cannibalism and petty fighting. I can imagine him reverting any further and shitting in a box or something.

>>9680433
Cliff was definitely heading there, but according to Aaron the end stage is reverting to type entirely. "Yowling maniacs", I think he said. Unless that's been retconned.

Wasn't Gustine having schism issues that manifested as bouts of mindless territoriality? Wally had a catnip-induced episode when the claws came out, too...

>>9680433
>shitting in a box or something
Can you imagine a mutant gone mad and just acting like a housepet?

>>9680804
I wonder if one that went full-schism would behave as such when they calmed down? Or if they ever calm down at all... either way, it feels as though final-stage schism isn't something you readily come back from.

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>>9681162

>>9681787
Would totally pat Jerry on the head and tell him he's a good boy.

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>>>/co/92928015
Linda at least has some training in combat, being a former Topsider and all. She's probably able to avoid some of the Topsider forms of detection with that knowledge.

>>9682775
I think Endtown mutants have a lot of combat potential...

>Mole trench fighters
>Eagle scouts
>Bear berserkers
>Soldier ants
>Kangaroo kickboxers

And don't forget the dinosaurs...

>>9677971

Seems reasonable. Maybe he staggered back, fell, and tried to get up, dizzy, confused. She saw just enough, a muzzle, blood, teeth bared, just enough to know he must not get back to his feet. Just enough to know what had to happen to those teeth, that face.

It'd be really neat to see Eye get a hold of her and go for a Jim style Kamikaze run on Marx and his base of operations. All this tension building and intrigue and then supernatural murder-horse comes in like an axe to the forehead and everyone's left wondering: "okay, what the fuck was THAT?" and trying to pick up the pieces.

"So this is the prison. So this is the jailer. I will set you free little children. Eye will see these walls fall down."

>>9683171
Woah. You have a flair for the dramatic. It does look like she might have tried to "erase" the wolf, and the whole "teeth and jaws" motif that's been following her would give ample reason why.

I still don't know if we'll see Eye in this arc... I feel like it's a possibility, perhaps with some kind of cult being behind the pig disappearances (Blood for sacrifices? More body-mass = more of the red stuff...) but I also feel like it might be adding yet another ingredient to an already crowded story.

It could be fun, though. Certainly more interesting than where a lot of the plot threads seem to be heading now.

>>9677971
Looks to me like shes eating him. In panel 3, she's leaning over his throat. In panel four, she appears to have flesh hanging from her mouth. Like she's having a schism episode only not in the way you'd expect a horse to.

>>9685766
I think panel 3 is her bent over, sobbing, while 4 is just wrinkles in his shirt.

Aaron says she's not schisming, apparently >>9680028

>>9682775

Hey PA!, Aaron got back to me on those things we talked about on the /co/ thread.

>"The rats answer directly to Jacob now. That's going to be covered during this arc."

There, now you can come up with something... He did also dropped another detail on heather...

>"Heather is simply going mad from stress and fear. It's implied that she was gang raped prior to this, not just beaten. We'll get into this issue shortly."

There needs to be a fucking race war right mother fucking now.

>>9687665
>It's implied that she was gang raped prior to this, not just beaten.
Someone needs to smoke this whole pack.

>>9687665
>We'll get into this issue shortly."
She's pregnant isn't she.

Thanks for asking Aaron

>>9687665
>Heather is simply going mad from stress and fear. It's implied that she was gang raped prior to this, not just beaten. We'll get into this issue shortly.
Huh. Can't say that was very clear at all.

>>9687800
>She's pregnant isn't she.

hasn't been too long since this happened, I don't think this is the case.

>>9687665
Rape as drama? Aaron is going to have to be very, very careful with how he handles that...

>>9685320
Nice.

>>9687801

>Girl gets attacked by a pack of wolves in the middle of the night
>comes out the next morning crawling out of a back alley, barely being able to stand and heavily traumatized

everyone assumed this that day, people just didn't believe he could go that far, though.

>>9687834

Rape, as in hend down and fucked in turns by each of those wolves, double penetrated, and forced to suck knot... basically Dottie's wet dream

I agree, though.. He needs to be really careful.

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>>9687877
I remember one person suggesting it, and IIRC that was a while after the strip went up, so I don't think it's very obvious.

Besides that, though, afterwards she seemed less "I was deeply and personally violated" worried - I don't know about you but I'd expect trauma like that to keep her a mile away from a shop that had wolves clustered around it - and more "I got whacked on the head in a run-by with a ball peen hammer by some assholes" worried. She even makes a wry joke.

I don't know, I can't help but think this is another change-up...

>>9687924
>I can't help but think this is another change-up...

It's not like it makes much of a difference if that was the case, She was gonna snap at any moment and kill a wolf, given all the bullshit they have made her go through.

>>9687947
That, at least, is true (but in that case, why do it?). I just hope Aaron's not biting off more than he can chew, here, again.

>>9687665
>It's implied that she was gang raped prior to this, not just beaten
Aaron has achieved MADMAN status.

>>9687723
I would say that as soon as the news gets out that'd mean trouble for every male wolf out there but this town of idiots would probably just dismiss it as a lie.

>>9687877
>everyone assumed this that day, people just didn't believe he could go that far, though
This.

>>9687924
She probably didn't remember it too well... or didn't want to.

>>9687924
Maybe Aaron is going by old American laws and Heather can't claim rape because she had an orgasm (yes, this used to be true). If that's the case, he could definitely ruin Dottie by having her hear that and say "Then what is she complaining about?".

>>9688306
>She probably didn't remember it too well... or didn't want to.
Ehhh, maybe? That seems like a very... convenient explanation. It still seems off.

I don't know, I don't think it's very necessary anyway - thinking they've harassed her friend to death, having her other friend injured by one of them, being beaten, being publicly shouted at by them, having them protest outside her shop, witnessing the protest turn into a riot, being chased by a wolf with definite intent and then seeing her livelihood burned down would definitely knock her way off-kilter, and then I could easily see her snapping as she hears the wolf outside the alley discussing what he wants to do to her... listening to him walking behind her, not knowing what he wants to do but suspecting its very fatal. Into the alley, grabs a loose brick, lies in wait to defend herself... and then she can't stop, because she's gone this far, he's already dead on the ground, and all her atavistic fear, stress and frustration is coming out at once. It doesn't really need rape.

But whatever, it's part of the storyline now, at least proto-canonically, and again I can only hope Aaron can handle writing it.

>>9688434
I think that would probably be terribly obscure and more to the point, rather alienating to much of his audience without a LOT of explanation.

>>9687877
>hend down
Bent down? Held down? If the the former, that's a very bad idea with a horse.

>double penetrated
Porn makes it look easy but people actually can't just do that without preparations, it would be terrible for everyone involved.

>forced to suck knot
And give her the chance to bite it off?

At most, they just took turns after she was too beat up to do anything. Also, this is fucking dark if true.

>>9688680

>Held

My bad... they did knock her with the ball hammer, she could have been unconscious when they abused her.

>>9688680
>this is fucking dark if true.

also, I was kidding about all that, Aaron did imply she was sexually abused, though.

>>9687877
>>Girl gets attacked by a pack of wolves in the middle of the night
>>comes out the next morning crawling out of a back alley, barely being able to stand and heavily traumatized

>everyone assumed this that day, people just didn't believe he could go that far, though.
I just assumed she was having difficulty walking because she'd, y'know, been hit in the head with a hammer. At most I thought they might have kicked her in the ribs once she was down.

>>9687877
>everyone assumed this that day, people just didn't believe he could go that far, though.
Perhaps this isn't surprising, but the GoComickers don't seem to have even considered that it might be rape for the most part.

Over the strip where she crawls out of the alley and the very next one where she's at the police station, only one of them made even a vague reference to rape and it got no response from any of the others. Even Jenner doesn't seem to have thought her behaviour pointed to rape, and he has training as a GP, unless I'm mistaken.

>>9688700
Aaron knows what a concussion is (from Wally's introduction), I don't think so. Unless quick healing worked better on her.

>>9688737
>>9688930

I think it all comes down to, people never really thought he could have pushed it that far. I certainly hope he's careful with how he approaches this.

I personally don't mind if done right, this is a comic aimed at adults anyways.

>>9688930
>Even Jenner doesn't seem to have thought her behaviour pointed to rape, and he has training as a GP, unless I'm mistaken.
I don't think that's something they train you to recognize. Even then, rapes don't happen all in the same way.

>>9689070
I think it is in some places. Either way, you'd expect someone who talks to a hundred different people a week about their problems would have more experience than most in reading behaviour.

>>9689107
The behavior of a cartoon horse?

>>9689142
Who is still a human on the inside.

>>9689155
No, I mean.. reading real people is one thing but we're talking about drawings here.

>>9689172
Well, isn't that just shifting things back onto Aaron and his ability to convey things? Cartoon or not, it's an attempt to depict a realistic story - remember how Aaron relatively recently went into great detail about how he strives for realism and emotional legitimacy...

>>9689022
>I certainly hope he's careful with how he approaches this.
Yeah, me too, but with the way the women in this arc have been written I'm not feeling entirely confident.

>>9689197
Wanting to and being capable of are not the same thing.

>>9680129
Most of his stuff is voluptous females. I haven't seen any non-Endtown males drawn by him.

>>9689263
Well you'll get no argument from me on that note, especially given past discussions on that subject in these very threads. I think this whole thing is a bit of a misfire, if indeed it *was* actually intended from the get-go.

Still, it'll probably get rigorously clarified in-comic soon, by the sound of it.

>>9689334
It probably wasn't.

Remember how Holly saved Chic from JimGod? It seemed like it happened so Chic would open up to her, setting up their adoptive family dynamic, but then Holly became insensitive when Kirbee was with them and Chic got better along with Kirbee even though she didn't even notice him until it was convenient to make Holly look wrong about Kirbee.

>>9689569
Yes, that whole thing had an air of narrative detour about it.

>>9689661
This arc is even worse about it.

>>9687665
> It's implied that she was gang raped prior to this, not just beaten
>raped
> Her clothes are completely intact
> The assailant went for a blow to the head. That's not what rapists usually do
> He examination has shown no signs of violent penetration

Okay Aaron, now you're just doing this to cheapen the comic.

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Yup.

>>9697703

Heather's cute!

when are you gonna draw porn of her?

>>9697703
Pretty much. Very transparently meant for drama and nothing else, at this point.

>>9697849
Probably soonish, really.

>>9697703
Poor Heather. She's too good to be living in a world with Marx in it.

>>9697703
Jeezis. The picture is good but it really makes you think.

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Let's see how low can we go.

Hello everybody! I know this will piss off some people but eh, I just think at this point the comic is such dire straits even >rape can't save it.

>>9699020
Ouch.

>>9699020
Needs more latex.

>>9699841
Fuck it why not just add scat too?

>>9699020
Long time no see.

>>9699109

Ouch indeed, but at this point I think Aaron's depiction of women is quite similar to the one in the picture. I was looking back and wondering a lot if the divorce make him just hate women... given Sarah, Holly, Milk trial abuse and now this, I think so. The whole rape thing makes me believe he has a very "object-like" view of women, especially how casually the subject was added.

>>9699841
I'm still doing that Jim Femboy request for /draw/, so get your hopes up.

>>9699917
I think there's enough shit with this storyline I don't need to add more.

>>9699993
I visit from time to time but rarely post. I did see the CriticAnon work and good work man, keep it up.

I wish I had more fun things to say but the >rape drop today got me so upset.

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>>9700173
I just got back from a vacation so I'm glad you like my stuff man, thanks.

But seriously? Rape? Is that what Aaron is aiming for in justification as to why Heather flipped her lid and killed this guy?

>>9700470

No prob, I think a lot of stuff you snarked I would've done, you did it way funnier.

And yeah well here's why people use rape: It makes things series. It's basically Endtown version of loss.

But again how was there ANY rape if Heather clothes weren't torn and the examination has not shown any signs of sexual assault. It's weird. Unless the guys were into fucking unconscious broads that is.... that just makes it even MORE creepy.

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>>9700540
My huge problem with it is the way it was handled after she got hammer'd but before the actual police riot. Aaron is telling us that she was, by all accounts, RAPED in that incident. But despite that the police don't provide her any more effort for escort than the shortest guy on the force AFTER she calls them for one and she finds it fit to return to her place of work with more people of the same sort that RAPED her standing outside in a huge goddamn mob?

There is so much wrong here to unpack that it actually is giving me a headache trying to fit it in outside the category of: "Aaron really is a fucking hack".

>>9700540
>Heather clothes weren't torn
She was wearing a dress, all they needed was to lift it for the important part. Where do you people get the idea that they needed to shred her clothes for it?

>>9700540
>Unless the guys were into fucking unconscious broads
They physically assaulting her, why would they care about doing the right thing at that point?

>>9700673
It seems they didn't know, Heather probably didn't tell them. If this is because she herself doesn't remember it well or because she is too ashamed to admit remains to be seen.

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>>9700797
Still doesn't explain her behavior after the incident as a rape victim man. She acted like she was physically attacked, there's nothing there suggesting she was beside herself with panic because she was violated by wolf dick.

Hell, she didn't start panicking again until the wolf broke into her laundry which still suggested more fear for her life than recounted sexual trauma. You'd think she'd be panicking more with the huge goddamn crowd of wolves standing outside her shop.

>>9700797
>She was wearing a dress, all they needed was to lift it for the important part. Where do you people get the idea that they needed to shred her clothes for it?
Well apart from the meta reason that it would have been a good visual cue, it's probably fairly hard to lift a skirt over a pair of struggling legs and then keep it from getting in the way. Easier to tear it or tear it off - there's a reason it's a bit of a cliche.

>They physically assaulting her, why would they care about doing the right thing at that point?
Rapists usually revel in the power trip, so they would have wanted her awake.

>It seems they didn't know, Heather probably didn't tell them. If this is because she herself doesn't remember it well or because she is too ashamed to admit remains to be seen.
But it's not even foreshadowed in her reactions or dialogue or anything, really, at least not in any way that couldn't just have been more easily interpreted as "growing phobia of vicious predators because beaten by wolves".

>>9700982
> She was wearing a dress, all they needed was to lift it for the important part. Where do you people get the idea that they needed to shred her clothes for it?
Because you need to work fast and clothing gets in the way. If you look at the police reports usually the victim is usually told to undress or the rapist tears the clothes off.

> They physically assaulting her, why would they care about doing the right thing at that point?

Because rapists don't work like muggers. More like >>9700982 . They love the sense of fear put into the victim as well as the power trip. Serial killer rapists straight up strangle their victim during sex or engage in necrophilia. There's a lot about that on the net.

> It seems they didn't know, Heather probably didn't tell them. If this is because she herself doesn't remember it well or because she is too ashamed to admit remains to be seen.

When you get beaten up, the doctors are gonna inspect EVERY inch of your body to make sure what the damages are, for women that usually goes for genital areas as well if there's an even a slightest hint the crime might involve that. Police are usually informed straight away of such findings.

And here's what my thoughts are on this affair:

1) Aaron as he admitted does a piss poor job at research and thus even if he intended to push it into rape territory, he never ever though of researching how such encounter would look despite there being numerous testimonies, reports or articles depicting such - as hate crimes, serial crimes or straight up acts of random violence. More so he's completely oblivious to behaviour-patterns of a woman post rape, they just don't carry on the next day.

2) Rape was an afterthought that was added to drum up dramatism. Meaning that the initial thing was an assault and since Endtown thread and some other people were not giving enough pity to Heather he shared that rape thing in the e-mail to make it leak onto here. I think he expected a different response.

>>9700982
>good visual cue
What we got was enough to imply rape for many people, we just didn't believe Aaron would go there.

>Rapists usually revel in the power trip, so they would have wanted her awake.
That's for dedicated rapists, in this case it seems like something they did in the heat of the moment.

>not even foreshadowed in her reactions or dialogue or anything
Actually, a lot of people thought she was kind of overreacting. It makes more sense now that we know she was raped.

>>9701176
See everything above.

>inspect EVERY inch of your body
Endtown has incompetent police officers and only one very busy doctor who has antiquated medical knowledge that is also limited by the great diversity of anatomy and physiology of his patients.

>Aaron as he admitted does a piss poor job at research
I've never seen him admit it (not like he needs to, it's pretty eveident sometimes). However, I think it's a pretty fair depiction in that it isn't cliche as fuck. "There are no illnesses, just ill people", you can't just expect everyone to react the same. That is actually why A LOT of rape cases go unreported for a long time, some (if not the majority of) victims can just walk away from it like nothing.

>Rape was an afterthought that was added to drum up dramatism
Possibly but it's not as forced as you people claim it is.


I feel like this rejection of the idea is not because it doesn't make sense but you people just don't want to accept that Heather got raped. I can understand that but we shouldn't let feelings cloud our judement, the comic has enough problems with the author doing that himself.

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>>9697849
...and I did a thing.

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>>9701491
"You people", huh? Man, you really come off as a pretentious faggot. We explained why we don't buy in or like what this is and you'd psychoanalyzing and trying to offset the complaints and criticisms as being personal failings on our behalf. You can white knight all you want and try delegitimatizing the arguments but that isn't going to change minds.

Rape is a cheap dramatic angle and Aaron is a hack for using it so inelegantly.

>>9701683

Did Suule make you do this, Kazen?

>>9701683

That is awesome!

>>9701491
>What we got was enough to imply rape for many people, we just didn't believe Aaron would go there.
It implied nothing of the sort to me. She just looked like she'd been beaten and left to bleed in the alley as a warning.

>That's for dedicated rapists, in this case it seems like something they did in the heat of the moment.
It's a general factor in rape. The intent was pretty obviously to "teach her a lesson". That's not going to be nearly as effective if she's asleep.

>Actually, a lot of people thought she was kind of overreacting. It makes more sense now that we know she was raped.
Really? I can't say I recall this at all.

>Endtown has incompetent police officers and only one very busy doctor who has antiquated medical knowledge that is also limited by the great diversity of anatomy and physiology of his patients.
The antiquity of his knowledge is arguable, considering the strip takes place in 20XX. The retro styling is just that - styling. Al even had an iPod equivalent.

>"There are no illnesses, just ill people", you can't just expect everyone to react the same. That is actually why A LOT of rape cases go unreported for a long time, some (if not the majority of) victims can just walk away from it like nothing.
Are you absolutely certain about that? As far as I'm aware, the lack of reporting is more often down to things like fear of retribution (yet she's gone to the cops), internal apologetics (nope, she hates wolves), or the knowledge that such a report would be dismissed (this seems unlikely even with Groat in charge)...

>I feel like this rejection of the idea is not because it doesn't make sense but you people just don't want to accept that Heather got raped. I can understand that but we shouldn't let feelings cloud our judement, the comic has enough problems with the author doing that himself.
Agreed on the last part, but I have to say you're coming off a little like you're bending over backwards to accommodate Aaron here yourself.

>>9701696
>Man, you really come off as a pretentious faggot
Well, you can't blame me for thinking that you are being emotional now.

>You can white knight all you want
Funny how I've been accused of the contrary by /co/ many times before. This is how it really is now, isn't it? We can only either completely agree or disagree with Aaron.

>>9701779
While his idea basically (dominatrix Heather), I found it amusing enough to carry on with.

>>9701683
Damn. Not bad.

>>9701798
>It implied nothing of the sort to me
Yes, to YOU.

>It's a general factor in rape.
Says who?

>I can't say I recall this at all
Like how you conveniently not remember rape as drama being discussed?

>The antiquity of his knowledge is arguable
People still thought it was okay for a pregnant woman to drink alcohol.

>Are you absolutely certain about that?
No, to be honest. This is a touchy subject for many reasons, one of them is that nothing is really certain about it. My main argument is that we shouldn't make generalizations and expect Heather to act like a typical rape victim, specially since her case is unusual (how many people are raped by WOLVES?).

>I have to say you're coming off a little like you're bending over backwards to accommodate Aaron here yourself
I suspected as much but I hoped my opinion would be judged better than that.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not completely accepting of the idea either. I'm just trying to be fair and let Aaron fuck up for real before rejecting it entirely.

>>9702042
>Yes, to YOU.
Well yes. I know I'm a small sample size, but I do my best.

>Says who?
Well it's commonly accepted as having nothing to do with getting one's rocks off, for starters. Last I read up on the subject, it's generally considered to be a power/control thing. In this case, it would have been the wolves asserting themselves over Heather for being a "Hater".

>Like how you conveniently not remember rape as drama being discussed?
In the thread when she crawled from the alley? No, I remember one or maybe two people bringing it up, quite a while after the strip went up, IIRC. Always seemed like a minority view to me. I seem to recall some argument against it, too. Was this perhaps in the /co/ thread? I don't always pay much attention to those, especially not lately.

>People still thought it was okay for a pregnant woman to drink alcohol.
Did they? Wasn't she implied to be deliberately hiding it in the dresser?

>No, to be honest. This is a touchy subject for many reasons, one of them is that nothing is really certain about it. My main argument is that we shouldn't make generalizations and expect Heather to act like a typical rape victim, specially since her case is unusual (how many people are raped by WOLVES?).
Okay, but I really can't say I think that's going to make her *less* likely to act like a classic rape victim and *more* likely to act like she's angry and concerned more for her life. I mean... gang rape by wolf anthros? When you have the instincts of a horse, a famously nervy species? I really can't see Heather shaking that off so readily. Sorry.

>I suspected as much but I hoped my opinion would be judged better than that.
>Don't get me wrong, I'm not completely accepting of the idea either. I'm just trying to be fair and let Aaron fuck up for real before rejecting it entirely.
I suppose that's fair. But I must point out that other people's definition of "fucking up for real" might vary, and they have every right to air their worries.

You know, I think Endtown will end up being one of those stories where copyright will make a good setting go to waste as the author stops caring about it while many fans want to pick up the torch.

>>9701683
No matter how this arc turns out l glad that we have this picture now.

>>9702362
Hey, there's always fanfic.

>>9704773
They weren't your friends.

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>>9704831
To Kirbee everyone was a friend, even if they were assholes and murderers.

Live

can someone post dottie reference

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>>9707655

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>>9707655
>>9707690

>>9701683
https://picarto.tv/Kazen Working on this onstream.

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>>9702365
>>9701941
>>9701796
Thank you!

Also finished.

>>9709962
Nice work.

>>9713421
This thing is so good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRmYWTnuH5Y

>>9714983
From 2012. That's interesting looking back in retrospect. Didn't CR put Endtown as his favorite daily strip.

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Welp, I might as well bump with some Heathers I had lying around

>>9697703
I do like Heather. Maybe I have a fetish for girls who can't catch a break.
>>9699020
No "Free horse rides". C'mon the fruit was low and ripe for the picking.

>>9700470
The rape thing has me worried. If it's handled in a direct way it could turn the whole comic into a joke, but if it's handled in a more subtle way it could turn out alright (I hope).

>>9701683
>>9709962
Nice.

>>9701696
The badge made me laugh harder than it should.

>>9718110
The top one looks familiar, but there's nothing wrong with reposts.

I think Heather has a distinctive design (although I'm beginning to think Aaron has a thing for that outfit...) but like a few characters this arc she needed more characterisation before shit started to go down if the comic was going to stick with her for this long (quite possibly another artefact of writing on-the-fly). I sincerely hope the whole rape thing isn't intended to somehow compensate for that.

>>9719688
A lot of people thought Heather was problematic early on when she was blaming Terry's death on the wolves, being rude to Dottie and kicking out the wolf bitch (though I think they were just wolfaboos in denial).

>>9720724
She seems to have had a tendency towards extreme reactions to things since the start. Another thing which says to me she didn't really need to be a rape victim for all this to make her snap.

If she were an actual cartoon character, she'd probably be named Hysterical Horse.

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>>9720902
>she'd probably be named Hysterical Horse

>>9721365
Well, to go with classics like Dippy Dawg, Gabby Goat and Bonkers (D.) Bobcat...

>>9721923
I undertood the reference, the image was meant to show that I found the joke weird but fair.

>>9722025
Ah. My mistake.

Though I'm kind of thinking now that I should have gone with "Hysteria". Sounds more like a name, and a female name at that.

The GoComics crowd still think it's schism. One of them suggested it and a bunch of the rest went "Yup, schism for sure".

>>9725002
People here are no better. I clarified it like 3 times but nobody listened until somebody came in with Aaron's word.

>>9725152
It seemed a lot more cautious and speculative here, and there'd been people arguing against a schism interpretation since the idea was brought up.

>>9725171
That'd be me the only one other person who seemed to understand that it was not Schism Syndrome.

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>>9725185
Looking on Desuarchive in the last thread, all I see is one person saying it's going to be schism, a bunch of people then discussing why it can't be and then discussing schism syndrome in general, and then the discussion turns into joking about a schisming Heather starring in her own horror movie.

After that there's one reference to it as a general possibility in a listing of possibilities without any assertions, a remark once again regarding the GoComics people betting on schism, without endorsing it, then someone saying "Maybe it's a late case?" but also noting that it really doesn't look like it, and then a comment that it's still likely just plain old murderous rage.

You're not using "here" to include /co/, perhaps, are you?

>>9725245
>You're not using "here" to include /co/, perhaps, are you?
I do mean just /co/. The "late case" comment is mine, by the way. It was actually meant to make people reason about why it couldn't be Schism, I suspected a few would take it that way. Before you ask, I'm not Aaron or KC.

>>9725285
Ah, see, I *wasn't* including /co/. Thank you for clarifying.

>The "late case" comment is mine, by the way. It was actually meant to make people reason about why it couldn't be Schism, I suspected a few would take it that way.
I see, hence the appending it with "maybe she's just a regular psychotic killer". For the record, the "plain old murderous rage" response was mine.

>Before you ask, I'm not Aaron or KC.
Wasn't even thinking in that direction. I do wonder if Aaron reads these threads, though...

>>9725347
>Wasn't even thinking in that direction
Sorry, I got the idea from the Poppy threads. They sometimes think I'm Morbi from not being completely retarded. You know, I guessed Poppy was bisexual since chapter 1 due to certain details and everyone told me I was an idiot (they used that exact word) back then. I also guessed something was building up with Kit and her and got similar replies. I don't approve of either but it was easy to see the writing on the wall if you paid attention, yet it looks like I was the only one.

>>9725439
Ah, I've seen people go "Hi Morbi" before in those... I guessed Poppy was bisexual just from knowing how Morbi rolls. I didn't see the Poppy x Kit thing (guess I wasn't paying attention, because in hindsight it was clear as day), but I would have given it consideration.

Do you have any un-aired theories on this arc of Endtown?

>>9725518
>Do you have any un-aired theories on this arc of Endtown?
Aaron is not even nearly as predictable as Morbi, I make MANY theories but they all have the same little chance of being correct. So far I think I've only correctly guessed what happens next ONE time and I don't even remember what it was now.

>>9725541
No harm in speculating, though, and the thread's probably going to be quiet otherwise until the comic drops in eight hours or so.

I'm wondering myself if Heather's going to go fugitive or if she's going to be taken into custody. Either way I think the rumours are going to be flying.

>>9725550
We could either see her run away, face the other wolf, or cut to something else. Or maybe none of those.

>>9680433
I thought schism was Jimgod kinda deal.

Wheres the fun if they aren't actually ticking super murder mutant time bombs.

>>9725596
I think we may still have to deal with the wolf with the glasses, but after that she could run or be caught. Not many places to go in Endtown for a fugitive, though, unless perhaps she runs into the side caverns (oracle appearance?). Refuge at Walt's, maybe?

We've already had a cut to Jacob, and it feels like it's too soon to go back to him.

I'd say this would be a great place to bring in Al and Gustine, reading about the murder in the paper, but the arc is already getting a bit crowded in terms of characters and I'm pretty sure Al and Gustine are cameo-only from now on.

Dottie's earlier encounter with Heather makes me think they're going to cross paths at some point... quite possibly interviewing Heather in a jail cell (and perhaps the whole rape issue coming out will be the point at which Aaron lets Dottie drop the wolf-bias thing and get back on track, point having been hammered in repeatedly).

I'm kind of hoping we don't go back to Walt and Portia any time soon, my enthusiasm for that pair was middling and is now low. If we do, however... possibly another news report?
And I guess Hat Wolf being dead may have put a damper on any plans he and Glasses had regarding Portia and Walt. That still leaves the matter of the blood on the door, though - I still think that was a third party, not the wolves (or the main pack at least), same with the calls.

We could be cutting back to Grout and the cops getting a call from the frog up there. Or possibly even Glasses running into the police station. Either one might rile up the wolves in the cells, if they hear. I wonder if we could end up with a siege of the station? There didn't seem to be that many wolves at the protest/riot, but there did seem to be a *lot* of howling before that...

>>9725616
Jim was an extreme and exceptional case. Usually they just go violently and irrationally psychotic without the possession, god complex or super powers. I don't think we've seen an "ordinary" case of 100% schism.

>>9725828
>I don't think we've seen an "ordinary" case of 100% schism.
Booo!

>>9725855
Yeah, I think Aaron regrets not showing one before JimGod. Now everyone associates it with Eye possession. There is some person in GoComics who is completely convinced about it and keeps talking about Eye, for example.

I want to hug Jim.

>>9725892
He probably should have taken the opportunity with that cat that wanted to eat Holly; if there ever was a story beat that would have appeared perfectly it would have been that part.

>>9700173
>I'm still doing that Jim Femboy request for /draw/, so get your hopes up.
Any progress?

>>9725347
>I do wonder if Aaron reads these threads, though...

After doxing him? What do you think?

>>9727335
Does he even know about that? Also, he only managed to visit the /co/ thread once. /trash/ is hidden.

>>9727462
Oh, he knows. Don't count on him doing 4chan any favors in the future.

>>9727335
>After doxing him?

>Aaron outs Holly from the comic
>Hollyfags get mad and dig dirt on Aaron

Good thing the Kirbeefags are the toxic bunch.

>>9727691
Don't start.

The thing about Kirbeefags is that they weren't real fans of the comic. They plagued the threads just to see Kirbee or shit on "Hollyfags" who were just the actual readers concerned about the story. If they actually cared about the story they wouldn't have made it an "us against them" thing which Aaron makes clear that he hates very much.

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>>9727837

Shit was flying from both sides, you are pretty delusional if you think hollyfags are the only ones who cared about the comic, not even Kirbeefags were happy with the ending in the last arc. Say all you want about them being toxic retards, they might as well be, they weren't the ones who started digging Aaron's personal life, Hollyfags are not any better.

>>9728017
1. You can't know for sure it was a Hollyfag who did the doxing.
2. I only see one Kirbeefag still making trouble after all this time. You even use the same picture from then, still lacking self-awareness.

>>9728066
>I only see one Kirbeefag still making trouble after all this time.

like clockwork, I was waiting for someone to accuse me of being a Kirbeefag at some point, that did not last long.

>>9728017
I did the "teenage mutant retard lizard" comment. I've always been a Allie/Jim fag. Eat shit.

>>9728126
If you think you are fooling anyone, it's only yourself.

>>9728126
>why do they call me gay for sucking dick?

>>9728158
>If you think you are fooling anyone, it's only yourself.
>>9728220
>>why do they call me gay for sucking dick?

So, claiming that both fanbases are equally toxic makes me a Kirbeefag now. Ok.

>>9728286
>an image only a Kirbee waifufag would give a crap about
>"muh Hollyfags" inane rant
>starting the fight
Believe what you want, you are a Kirbeefag.

>>9700470
I can't wait for a wolf genocide so you can make a picture of her complaining before dying.

>>9727335
>>9727607
>>9727691
>>9728017
>One person makes one post containing one detail in a public record, probably found via a ten second google search
>"4chan/Hollyfags doxxed Aaron!"

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Back to Pig und Bear...

>>9730628

> I think it's one of those things that's easier for women to talk about

What.

>>9730628
I wonder where the chicken girls get all the shell grit they need to lay such large eggs.

>>9730724
It's a menstruation joke, Anon. Don't be dense.

>>9731406

It's a rather piss poor joke if you'd ask me.

>>9731295
I gave it to them.

>>9730628
>This is your brain.
>This is your brain on bricks.
>Any questions?

>>9731466
No, you're just dense.

>>9730628
I wonder who'd be ringing them. Walt isn't Mayor any more. More pig-bothering with a new factor in that they tracked Portia to Walt's place? Or is some old contact about to tell him about Heather and the wolves?

That's about as much curiosity as I can dredge up at the moment.

>>9734314
>Or is some old contact about to tell him about Heather and the wolves?
It could be Dottie. They're still friends after all.

>>9731295

Bone meal? I mean, gotta be plenty of that lying around topside.

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>>9730628
>giving eggs
So this has been bothering me; does Endtown practice capitalism or are they really communists sharing everything in the community? We never seem to see money, just ration allowances, and services look as if they're provided instead of working as a full business.

>>9735034
We've seen everything being allocated or handed over without any apparent change of currency, but I could swear someone here or on /co/ mentioned at one point that Aaron had said something about there actually being currency. Anyone else remember anything like that?

>>9735123

Since food, housing, and it looks like clothing are all provided/rationed, there's probably some sort of scrip that can be used to buy extras, but given the rationing, it's probably not that useful or widely used.

>>9735034
>>9735123
>>9735669
They get points from doing community service that they burn mostly on booze. Going topside gets you the most points. It's been mentioned a few times.

>>9735793
I remembered something like that, but is it tokens or some kind of Super Salvager Card?

>>9735810
It's a card. They seem to punch holes in it or something.

>>9735830
Thanks.

I wonder if restoration of an actual currency is going to be an eventual plot point?

InB4 Endtown gets put on the Lucranian Toaster Standard.

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>>9735830
Here it is in action. Poor Spike.

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Are we okay with the occasional bit of Tale of Jasper Gold stuff in here, or should that go elsewhere?

>>9737707
I'm okay with it.

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>>9680433

>>9730628
I love the transition to this from the previous strip. Pretty clever

>>9736581
>Endtown has twenty movies in their only theaters.
I would love to know what movies they are. I always loved the idea that an entire generation of people can grow up with only a fraction of their world's movies. It's an oddly comfy thing to think about.

Them finding tapes to bring back must be headline news when it happens. Townsfolk would have a field day after finding Naked Gun 33 1/3: The Final Insult, and have months of debates about the status of the previous 32 movies and Short Film.

If only the poor bastards had Dungeons and Dragons. Endless entertainment with the right group.

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Heather commits murder, was seen by a witness in a situation that is entirely undeniable, and we cut to a phone call. If Denise is a prosecutor or lawyer then I can't see her not appearing now, this whole setup feels like it was made for her.

Narrative definitely will be:
1: Heather assaulted wolf customer
2: Inept police force did not take proper measures to oversee unstable horse
3: Riot happens
4: Arsonwolf death will be pinned on her
5: Hatwolf death rightfully pinned on her

I wonder if Endtown does capital punishment. Do they eject people into the wastes for a certain death or kill them in the community instead?

>>9740381
>execution or exile
I suspect exile, but... horribly enough, I can imagine a small but loud faction advocating for "recycling" of bodies under circumstances like this. As in, the same way byproducts of mutant biology get recycled...

>>9740404
Horse meat is somewhere between cow and deer and the older the horse the better the meat is apparently. Very lean and good healthwise too.

It seems like a shame in resources to just bury or exile potential food, especially if it might be delicious when prepared right.

>>9740451
You may run into ethics problems when an investigator's hankering for a nice steak can bias the investigation in favour of a terminal outcome, though.

>>9740465
Bias, schmias! Horse meat is delicious! It isn't like Endtown is losing anything important with this anyway, Heather has a terrible personality (or lack thereof) and exists to be a professional victim. She can provide for Endtown in a much more noble fashion! Sweet sweet horse burgers!

>>9740515
While I agree she's rather one-dimensional, I don't much fancy the potential knock-on, here. Today, the traumatised horse lady who legit killed someone, tomorrow the poor mostly-innocent little duck who jay-walked, all because the judge found a bottle of orange concentrate in his pre-war stash and got to thinking about Duck a l'Orange...

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>>9739301
>If only the poor bastards had Dungeons and Dragons. Endless entertainment with the right group.
I don't see why they wouldn't have some version of TRPG. If someone got bored enough they could whittle their own dice sets or they could just play a D6 based system.

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>>9737707
I'm alright with it. It's also nice to see Jamil's art.