Transformation General
ITT: Pictures, stories, captions of things turning into other things
Since when is the file size limit 3MB? I thought it was 4?
>>9417477
Nevermind. Maybe that's just for webms.
I've got a lot of dishes to wash. It sure would suck if someone stuck a magic jingly bell around my neck and turned me into a big stupid heifer!
>>9417608
Really? Fiiine, I guess I'll wash them... It was worth a try.
can some tell me why do people like this because
i really want to kown
>>9416475
I really dig the perspective and the progression here, even though the specific subject matter of trucker slobs isn't quite my thing. Loved the flow of the dumbing down.
Fancy taking a stab at this one?
My first caption and third written TF in general. I realised that I failed to convey the idea behind the last two sentences well, but I can't edit the picture now so I'm posting it early.
Please give me feedback, be it negative or positive! I woud love more input from people other than myself on what to do and what not to do.
wip
wip too
also a wip, needs some ink edits
1/4
>>9418614
2/4
>no wish fulfillment
>no fursonas
>no snow leopard fag
Now that the rules have been established please continue.
>>9418621
3/4
>>9418632
4/4
>>9418628
>the fag who was talking about turning into shrek and pete and farting is gone too
what a glorious day
>>9418734
can you tell me why or are you just a dickhole
>>9418779
Ignore the tasteless fag. Post more
>>9419048
haters gonna hate
getting into older stuff now so yeah the anatomy is gonna suffer a bit
1/2
>>9419146
2/2
>>9419167
Why do you always do this? Every single fucking thread, you just dump this artist's entire fucking gallery. For what purpose? Just link their FA or something. For Christ's sake.
>>9419209
It's alright art, but I'm just sick of seeing it over and over again in every single thread. Don't you have anything else to post?
>7 ips before this post
>32 images
>all spamming his own work
How do we get rid of attention whores and shills?
>>9419309
>posting on topic is discouraged
>>9419399
Let's not do this today, alright?
Nickfag from the other thread.
Requesting more TF stories where Nick Wilde turns into a different Zootopia character or animated character in general (TG and WG preferred)
>no snow leopard fag
I can fix that
>tfw I started a TF comic I'll never complete
>>9418628
Jesus christ, you're more annoying than the actual snow-leopard guy. Quite complaining and post porn and/or discus said porn topics. What is the deal with this personal vendetta you have against those specific fetishes?
I haven't even seen the person you're referring to in the past 2 threads. You bringing it up will only encourage his reemergence.
I have never seen a transformation thread have so many faggots in it before holy shit
>>9420713
Somehow, they're even bigger faggots than the male caption guys.
>>9421548
speak of the devil
>>9416830
here you go, will get to >>9418069 next
So, have we merged the TF General thread with the TF stories & captions thread?
>>9421988
Yep. No reason to split such a niche fetish into two threads.
wish fulfillment and ego death are the best TFs
>>9422345
Combine both.
I wish I were a successful adult.
Oh no, all my memories of being a neet! My glorious, glorious self!
I am a successful adult.
>>9421819
Man, I wish I were a dumb caveman with a dumb caveman boyfriend.
>ywn bang sticks together to make fire
>ywn suck each other off and use blunt sabertooth teeth as sex toys
>ywn smash the monolith because fuck that thing, the stone age is awesome
Hey guys is this a paraphilia? Do you fap to this?
What's the desire?
>>9423039
Yes and yes. Here's my pseudopsychological explanation.
I saw An American Werewolf in London in 2008, right after I discovered masturbation. Literally, probably like a week or so after. Remember the scene where David turns into a werewolf? It fucking terrified me as a kid, but I ended up watching it over and over again, memorizing every single detail... The hair, the claws, the teeth, all of it. It frightened me, but I couldn't look away. How did they do it? I wondered. No matter how hard I thought, I just couldn't figure it out. Is it real? Did they film a real werewolf?
Could I become one?
A combination of strong emotions, at a time of sexual awakening, caused something to snap in my brain. Some wires got crossed, some neurons misfired, I don't know. The next thing I knew, I'd found some weird werewolf forum that was only open for posting during the full moon. Eventually, I found actual TF porn, and then, it was all over for me. The fetish was fully developed. I hope this explanation isn't too rambling.
TL;DR - Fetishes are caused by traumatic or strange events during puberty, John Landis is the greatest porn director of all time.
By the way, thanks for not posting the meme.
>>9423474
Damn thanks for that.
I'm planning to make a video on paraphilias this text is amazing for me thanks
>By the way, thanks for not posting the meme
Don't know what you're talking about.
Also, this fetish is probably one of the most subtle ones.
>>9418779
Not that guy, but try some stronger variation in line weight. In my opinion, you've got some strong shapes that just aren't able to stand out because of it.
That being said, if you want some extra money you should try doing colouring book illustration. With how you handle line weight currently and the strong shapes in your style, you could easily land a gig. Just, uh, don't apply with lewds.
>>9423543
I imagine it's like this for a lot of fetishes. Puberty fucks up your brain chemistry, and some things get imprinted in weird ways. A fat joke might develop into a fat fetish. Slasher movies might give you a guro fetish.
I've got a folder full of pictures of me holding antlers against my head. Why?
Because someday, this might happen.
>>9424506
that's pretty autistic
>>9425044
i like deer
pls no bully
I love this one. I like the bit about forgetting college. Education loss is always nice.
>>9418069
here you go, voice in this one was fun
if anyone wants more here's the gallery to pick from: https://imgur.com/a/mavL7
>>9423039
For some people including me, transformation is a gateway to a broader desire. Autozoophilia, erotic target location error, etc.; they look at a target of interest and instead of thinking "I want to fuck it", they think "I want to be it." Eventually transformation can become a fetish of its own, being aroused by the process and all its implications even when the final shape isn't interesting.
>>9424506
You're worse than the guy that wants to be an anthro snow leopard.
>>9417424
>>9423474
>Eventually, I found actual TF porn
>inb4 it was arania
>>9427817
>I make a handful of posts saying that
>everyone chimps out
I barely post yet you people are obsessed with me.
>>9418628
>>9419875
>>9428036
>>9420600
>>9427817
>Some guy gets a tad too personal about TF
>Whole thread freaks out
>Thread goes to shit
>New thread
>Already so many fucking posts that have no purpose whatsoever other than bitching about drama that's already passed
Who's more autistic here?
Fucking drop it already. These threads already see alot of autism, you should've gotten used to it by now. Don't become a part of the problem.
Snow leopard guy, too, stop stepping on their toes. They're quite apparently easily triggered, and make the thread go to shit.
Related pic so the thread stays on-topic and doesn't become full drama
>>9419129
Quit spamming your entire portfolio, if I wanted to look at unpolished turds I would have just gone to a scat thread.
>>9428264
I'll just step back and watch. Apparently my taste in TF stuff is too much for some people to handle.
>>9428361
it's not your taste, it's you
>>9428379
Please explain to me what I've done wrong.
>>9427582
Gooood shit, thanks a ton anon. I'd suggest another image but nothing else in the album really speaks to me and I think I've asked enough as it is.
>>9428395
Not that guy, but I already explained it to you in either first or second writing thread.
You're getting super personal about your TF fantasies, which makes people uncomfortable.
It's like seeing a TF sequence that was obviously commissioned by some nerd requesting for himself to be in it (and to add to the cringe factor: him TFing into his stupid fursona).
Post what you like. We're in /trash/, you wouldn't be the first one to post TFs involving fursona's. But, for the love of god, stop building up a reputation as "that guy that whines about and shoves in our face his desires to be his OC."
>>9418779
The anatomy is absolutely horrible. Every character looks like a midget with a huge head.
>>9428467
Not the leopard guy but he's only posted generic snow leopards not a fursona with weird colors. Doesn't seem very personal to me.
>>9428568
Re-read the last two sentences.
It's not about the artwork he's posting, it's about the comments along with it.
Like the other guy said: it's not about his taste, it's about him.
>>9428586
I still don't see the problem, there's a guy saying he wants to be a deer too yet few people are complaining. You'd think sayinh stuff like that would be acceptable in a TF thread but I guess not.
>>9428602
that's because he hasn't done it in every thread while posting non-TF pictures
also please see a doctor about your addiction to (you)
>>9418779
You spam your """""artwork""""" every single thread.
>>9428264
I think it's too late, we just have to hope no one brings it up next thread. As an unspoken rule, when you see Snowleopoard content, ignore it and move on. When you see anti-snowleopard content, ignore it and move on. Then in theory it should only be those two guys participating in it. As opposed to how it is now, where we have those two, and 5 other people complaining about the drama, and inadvertently adding to the drama.
In cases like these terms of engagement are the same as those used against aggressive trolls. Completely ignore them and hope that the lack of attention will cause them to leave. Any time you respond, even if it's to throw the worst reprimand or the most carefully thought out counter-argument at them, you give them power.
>>9428695
What so we can't post snow leopards any more? I'm not the snow leopard guy buy I do like snow leopard transformations.
>>9428745
Feel free to post it! The artwork is not the problem.
>>9418779
Not the guy but I've seen this stuff enough times to give a fair criticism
>This is not your personal gallery, use some restraint before posting
>90% of your art is just a bad purple rough sketch of a bland comic
>The people have poor anatomy and are extremely awkward dynamically
>Your "finished" work looks exactly like your rough sketches showing that you have no process to your work; it's just a turd from beginning to end
Pic is my oc, it's not much but you've inspired me to want to improve with your shitty content
tf thread where everyone turns into a bitch
>>9428745
You know what I meant, it's not about banning a species from being posted. If people enjoy the content nothing changes, the ignore rule applies to people who have an issue with it. So if you see those snowleopard/anti-snowleopard posts, the ones causing drama, just move on past them. When anyone starts ranting about said snowleopards or whatever, everyone else in the thread needs to treat him like the invisible man from that episode of the Twilight Zone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_See_the_Invisible_Man
That's all I'm saying, any TF content is permitted, but unless it's seriously disrupting (like hard gore or something) people just ignore what they don't like and keep on enjoying the thread.
>>9428874
The snow leopard guy is literally doing nothing wrong. The autistic guy that's always complaining about him destroyed 2 threads.
>>9428852
That's 10x better than his. I'm not a fan of the arrows though.
>>9428695
I'm convinced one of them is a troll, if not both of them. "Wouldn't it be funny if we went into the TF thread and started a back and forth argument about semantics and really specific fetishes that will last 6 months! It'll really fuck them up."
But whatever, this is 4chan, learn to roll with the punches. It's going to happen from time to time.
>>9428870
fitting
>>9428852
>tfw that "artist" got wrecked so hard he's never going to spam his shitty "art" in these threads again
>>9428893
Right, but you're not listening. Look at this in a set of logical inquiries.
Do you hate content X?
No: Continue browsing thread pleasantly
Yes: Ignore it.
Did you ignore the above request to ignore it and rant about it?
No: Continue browsing thread pleasantly
Yes: Your rants are shunned and ignored by the rest of the thread.
Do you love content X to an obsessive degree?
No: Continue browsing thread pleasantly
Yes: Continue posting and enjoying the content, but ignore the person ranting.
Did you ignore the above request to ignore the ranter and are engaging in 30-post-long arguments with them?
No: Continue browsing thread pleasantly
Yes: You are now part of the problem, and will also be shunned.
90% of people should end up browsing the thread pleasantly, it's only if you go through a very specific set of circumstances that you will end up getting the invisible man treatment.
Love them donkeys.
>>9429109
They're pretty good.
People should draw more of them.
>>9429109
this, we need less cows
What kind of level of autism are we speaking of if you draw TF of yourself turning into your fursona?
Asking for a friend
>>9429655
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>>9429109
>>9429205
I say we need less domestic/farm animal TFs and more beasties
Let's be real now, if you actually turned into [insert creature here] you'd just be sort of hyped for a few days and that would be it
You'd change but still nothing would change
>>9430132
Accurate
>>9430132
Depends on the person, what they turned into, their personal circumstances and the circumstances of the change.
>>9429655
Does it count if it's a random person turning into your fursona?
Post sharks
>>9429655
If you're into TF at all you're autistic.
>>9430279
>>9429655
How about
>drawing tf porn of your relatives
Now THAT is absolute unbound autism
Ill never understand most transformation art. Most seem to think it would be pleasureable to have your bones break and reform, your anatomy change. They think that it would be fine if they just turned into an animal or furry when in reality they would be terrified. Insted they just continue having sex or working.
>>9430342
Read the rules. No fursonas.
>>9430657
>you think your fetish is hot but imagine if it was realistic, huh? What now huh?
Wew, good observation anon, no one's ever considered that. Next you'll tell us how crazy it is that vorefags think being eaten is pleasurable.
>>9430657
There's people in this thread that would love to be painfully reformed into their fursonas.
>>9430657
Taking a realistic but possible approach, the transformation itself would require so much energy that an adult human would end up losing something like 20 pounds of mass, over a time span of like, 1 minute?
And no, no one would ever gain weight during such an event
>>9430657
You can enjoy a fantasy you wouldn't want to happen in real life. And the terror or helplessness of a tf appeals to some people. Sometimes darker fantasies seem the most arousing.
>>9430657
Actually, the "realistic" TFs you describe are my favorite. The bone breaking TFs and being unable to partake in society anymore are my favorite kind of TFs. I rather see the grotesque takes on it than the romanticized ones.
>>9431002
>>9431012
jesus christ
>>9430657
You don't seem to be the kind of autist that would appreciate it, but I happen to believe the pain and life ruining to be the best part.
>>9417563
source?
>>9434089
if only the source was on the image somewhere
>>9437923
I wouldn't normally post a preview, but there's enough of the meat here alone that I figure it's fine. All that's off-screen is the legs.
there's
>>9438204
there's a full series of images of this somewhere, I didn't save them.
(Fucking 4chan just posted it before I could submit the entire sentence)
anyways more phokeys, because I have them saved.
>>9430132
I'd rather be bored as a big scary dragon than bored as a human anyways.
Let's get some more captions in here.
A question for the thread: do you guys post on other boards?
I'm looking at the posters over in the /d/ transformation thread lamenting that half of their posts got nuked for being furry and I'm wondering if they're even aware that /trash/ exists.
>>9446209
I stopped visiting /d/ TF threads, because of their terrible furry guidelines. It's like the people in those threads are always in denial for being into a furry fetish.
Also the same piss poor discussions about globalized transformation every single thread.
>>9438204
https://e621.net/pool/show/7475
>>9438195
Guess you hate to see people making an ass of themselves.
>>9446763
Goddamnit Carlos
>>9444115
I've been working on some follow-ups to that Leia-Hutt TF I did over in the other thread. I could post that.
>>9447688
Both using Spotty's art, since no one else does sexy female Hutts.
>>9446763
muh DICK
>>9448002
This guy needs more rule 34
Just a caption I made. What do you guys think?
>>9434135
it cost money you dipshit.
>>9449340
it's good. Keep writing.
>>9449340
I love shit like this.
>>9449340
I like it. I want to be turned into a submissive housewife!
>>9449486
if you knew what it was from why did you ask what the source was
Banged this out quickly. Please criticize roughly and anally. Slam my face into the table while you're at it.
>>9444115
>>9450979
> JOI
> They don't end in some crazy asshole screaming "NOW CUM YEAH DO IT CUM BABY YEAH"
Oh wow, these are actually pretty good.
>>9418601
why are they stealing milk when naked.
>>9450248
>>9450846
>>9450856
Awesome!
Here's another~
I go by Doctorpluto on hypnohub and Feder on FA btw
>>9451528
The hell did you wish for?
More housewife stuff
>>9452998
>>9447693
Noice! Happy to see you back man -- you gonna add this bit to the pastebin of the other Hutt TF you did?
>>9453028
>>9453109
Eventually. I have longer stuff in the works for the pastebin, but it's stuck in a kind of... bulletpoint format. Lots of broad ideas, little actual detailed narrative.
Also I want to do some greentexts for the Twokinds threads. Seeing female tiger Trace is giving me lewd ideas.
>>9453245
>longer stuff in the works
Stahp! I can only get so erect
>>9450856
Here's some fics you might like quite a bit then.
https://www.sofurry.com/view/1176871
https://www.sofurry.com/view/1139537
https://www.sofurry.com/view/1043828
https://www.sofurry.com/view/1048597
https://www.sofurry.com/view/1128074
>>9448002
>Getting triggered by literally nothing
Who likes FtM?
Who likes orcs?
Who like both?
>>9455571
Damn this is good.
Anyone wanna try to tackle a good old FTM TF into slobby, fat anthros or orcs?
I need tigers!
>>9452523
> So can anyone actually make those stupid short stories without managing to chose the ugliest fonts in the smallest sizes possible?
I usually go with calibri at size 15 (bigger if I have a large enough picture that will give me the room to do so). If the picture is really small I sometimes put it in a word processor and wrap the text around the image. Otherwise you are limited to keeping the text in line with the pic, which ends up super tiny if the pic is tiny. Or you have to resort to lossy upscaling of the image, which looks terrible.
What is a font that you would recommend?
>>9457408
I'd recommend at least size 20. Wrap the text if you have to. It just makes it easier to read.
>>9458108
Not a bad layout, I must admit. With a small pic, using 20-font, I fit 2015 characters in 1600 x 900. If I had a larger picture (or needed to use more words) I could push closer to 1920 x 1080. I dislike going full screen if I can help it because then people who do have small screen have to scroll sideways and up and down. Which makes reading text on a static image a bit of a ball ache.
NOT A PORN CAPTION by the way, just felt I needed to make that clear and not get people's hopes up, the pic is just for testing layout.
>>9438195
Because it's boring and repetitive. Also, you may harbor unpleasant, barely repressed memories of Pinocchio.
Can somebody tell me what kind of dog she turned into because I really want to know?
>>9461388
I wish I could wake up as a female pokemon.
>>9462475
source
>>9463257
If it will help you answer my question, sure.
https://touch.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=36994544
>>9463372
cheers
it's a flighty liondog
>>9463428
>Mouth being torn open from a beak
This horrifies and arouses me at the same time.
>>9448002
What are you, some kind of fag?
I legit want to be an anthro fox.
Wondering if someone here can help me find a story.
It was about a business CEO transforming into a mushroom woman while on his way up to his office's rooftop helipad. I can't recall if it was on DA or FA or somewhere else, but I do recall it being fairly hot. If someone can help me locate it, I'd be very appreciative.
>>9465918
Well that is afterall the best feature of avian transformation. I can't tolerate art or stories where the lips "harden" and become the beak anymore.
Either that or I have a fetish for people getting their jaws broken via hyperextension.
>>9466657
Same, Anon. I've had that urge since I was a kid.
>>9468330
>>9468340
>>9468361
Glad I'm not the only one
>>9466657
Zootopia made my desire for this worse desu.
>>9466657
>someone says they want to be an anthro snow leopard and the thread gets ruining
>someone says they want to be an anthro fox and everyone says they do too
Really makes you think...
>ywn be an anthro buck
>ywn live in the woods with the other anthro bucks
>ywn take buck cock 24/7
>>9469763
Honestly I'd rather meet that handsome buck, befriend him, through some strange means turn into a sexy doe anthro w. a nice womanly rump, and make sweet love to him.
>>9469763
>buck with a goatee
>>9466657
Tigers are better desu
>>9426534
please tell me there is a second part to this
>>9471173
Here is what I believe to be the original story.
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/10188614/
The unfinished sequel.
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/13266299/
And pic related is an image commision for the unfinished sequel.
The best kind of deer.
Wish there was more Wendigo TF content.
>>9471405
Well I was actually asking about the image with the deer, but this is also really good thanks.
mindwipe tf is my fetish
>>9471513
skull headed animals are my strangest and guiltiest fetish
>>9471598
speaking of skull headed animals, i wish skulldog drew tf more often
>>9466657
Is there anyone in this thread that doesn't want to be a real furry
>>9472108
I want to be a feral beastie instead.
Is that better or worse?
>>9471598
>Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well dot jpg
>>9472371
>>9472382
>>9472371
Worse
Its better to be a cute and sapient creature
>>9472490
>>9472494
>>9472497
thank you very much!
Who are the worst TF artist?
my picks
>arania
>catmonkshiro
>bendzz
>>9473792
terminatorfan, kanada
>>9473943
also look up rexequinox some timr
>>9473943
No. Arania has been drawing TF stuff for a decade and her art never improved even a little bit since the beginning. She is objectively a bad artist.
Rex_Equinox is horrible too.
>>9473792
One-Trick. I have actually fapped to him, because it's girls turning into herm Yoshis. My dick doesn't care how badly drawn it is, he's getting hard. But yeah... guilty fap.
>>9473792
CatMonkShiro is alright...
>>9474169
he'a relatively inoffensive, I don't care for his diaper stuff though
I think his following comes from his sheer willingness to do any/all diaper/messing stuff
>>9474169
catmonkshiro detected
>>9473792
There's a lot worse artists that are on FA but they don't put out the volume they did. That's more bottom of the minimum viable art. Also add Banana of Doom to that list, was fucking annoying when MaxJoe spammed all his galleries on panda
>>9474169
Agree his art isn't so bad. Not worth saving but not as offensive or awful as Arania or Kanada. Diaper shit is awful though.
Also I'm starting to understand why the self insert solo TF people actually enjoy it. They're basically all faggots so jerking off to themselves transforming is like jerking off to another guy. On a "normal" level self insert isn't so bad so long as another party is actually involved. Otherwise there's really no need for transformation; just pretend you always were furry or some shit.
>>9467046
https://kotep.xyz/post/lophiformes-elapidae-cordyceps/
It's the third section
>>9475766
>my TF tastes are better than your TF tastes
Leave.
>>9478078
Never said my taste was better, just said I'm starting to see why it appeals to those types of people since they're mostly gay.
>>9474157
hmmmmm......................he got a deviantart page?
anybody have the salazzle one?
>>9484447
>>9484451
And now the best part - The mental component!
>>9484456
And the ape is gone, replaced with a big fuzzy bullman.
>>9473792
>no-one has even mentioned picklejuice
>>9484325
You post this every thread. Fuck off pokefag.
>>9484692
Uh, ok? That was legitimately the first time I've ever posted in one of these threads.
>>9484325
The Salazzle one? You mean the caption?
>>9484928
yeah
>>9484928
Why do TF's involving Deiser's sona turning into busty furries turn me on so much? oO
>>9484941
I hope you enjoy it, Anon.
Wrote on the first day of the year as some kinda symbolic goal to write more often.
what kind of tf thread is this without the holy grail
>>9485158
tronch pls go
>>9485171
>B( no
post cute TFs
>>9485321
is neopets cute
Does anyone know the name of that long comic from mamabliss with that weird blue parasite and ovipositioning infecting everyone?
It's like the only work from them I liked.
>>9475766
>has weird fetish
>tries to explain away other, extremely similar weird fetish as people being gay
Nigga, any normal person is gonna look at your fetish and think you want the people around you to turn into freakish furry people, so dun pull that shit. You're in the same boat of having an unexplainable fetish.
>>9475945
Fucking awesome, mate. Thank you.
>>9488052
Ignore him he's mentally retarded.
https://pastebin.com/Q50VNM48
This is a really good story if you're into latex
>>9488052
Fetish weirdness is pretty subjective anyways. Still, you can probably statistically link fetishes together.
>>9473792
>tfw discovered arania more than 10 years ago
>anatomy, perspective etc is all fucked up
>she still draws in the same horrible way and hasn't improved at all whatsoever
>just sketches, lets other people color her drawings
Jesus Christ
Kanada is purestrain cringe IMO
>>9491721
I don't disagree.
>>9492400
He does have some interesting ideas. If only he weren't such a disgusting creep.
>>9491359
The ride never ends does it?
Picklejuice is the objective worst tf artist.
>>9493106
There might be some utterly obscure autist in deviantart but otherwise, yeah. Not even arania can claim her art has gotten WORSE after a decade.
Tell me, /trash/, what makes a good TF comic? What sort of visuals do you like? What kinds of story elements?
>>9473792
>has to know bendzz comes into these threads regularly
rude.
as far as worst there are plenty of autists on da who have made no progress for like a decade
>>9493895
I want a main character with a background more complex than the default Windows 7 one, and for them to deal with their new body in a way that does not include shagging the nearest solid the moment they transform.
It doesn't even have to be porn.
>>9473792
Unpopular opinion... I actually kinda like Bendzz. I mean, sure, their faces are shit sometimes, but the bodies are well-drawn.
>>9494404
I like Bendzz for his hips and asses desu
Problem with Bendzz is everything is too round. Lacks defenition/detail.
>>9494743
I absolutely hate his style and he always draws super narrow stomachs.
>picklejuice
>arania
>kanada
objectively the worst TF artists
Anyone working on some good TF stuff tonite?
>>9494985
Not really TF, but I'm doing some muscle growth/brutification stuff.