Who's the worst artist you've ever commission or worst

Once commissioned a flat color, no background, 1-character image.

Cost me about $20 I think.

Months pass and the artist continues to post tons of "gift art" for all his butt buddies, I ask him how my commission is coming and he says he's stressed over it because it's a commission so he's trying to put more effort into it.

Seven months pass, the guy is still posting lots of "gift art" for his friends, and I'm like "okay, what the fuck" at this point. He gets all huffy and blocks me, one of his friends starts whining at me that I'm "being too harsh" and other shit....uh, m8, it's been SEVEN MONTHS, I have a right to be pissed off when it has been this goddamn long my paid commission is being ignored in favor of free art for friends.

At this point I just forget about it and consider my $20 gone. It wasn't until nearly a year after the original commission date that the guy finally posts my commission.....and it's not higher quality than any of his other artwork. Looks the same.

What a fucking faggot.

>>9158634
every single fucking artist I've seen has done this
what the fuck is it in the brains of artists that fucks them up so badly

One commission for around $60
fully colored, two characters

took them about 6 month to just get it to me
all the while they were still taking more commissions and complaining about how life is so difficult and how not that many people are supporting their pateron and how they're struggling to pay the bills

Commissioned someone for a pic of a character bent over a desk with their ass in the air, they came back with them on their back instead.
It was pretty obvious they just wanted to use an angle that let them include their foot fetish, something I definitely did not request.

>>9158634
>>9159186
>>9159402
you guys aren't understanding the point of this thread, name names so others know not to commission from those people

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>>9158634
>>9159186
>>9159402
what the fuck??
NAME THEM!

CrazedG
Love her art and how she's able to draw near identical to the official art
But damn she's fucking slow as fuck
Would commission from her again if it didn't take so damn long to get it

I've never really had a bad commission experience. I don't commission often and when I do I've generally commissioned artists that are either well known or in the same sort of community circle as me that aren't very likely to just take the money and run.

Not many would be bad enough to qualify as "worst artist" either for the same reasons. I'd have to say Kayla-Na, but even then it's more because she's a shit person than because of her art. Though I don't really give a shit about artists' personal shit when I commission so I'll probably still commission her again at some point

>>9159186
lol, maybe there's a reason they were struggling: if they provide bad service, they don't get a lot of return customers

Names

>>9158930

I think alot of them take the weed.

Really, it's more economically viable to do your commissions on time.

Cha ching

>>9158634
I don't know how people can do this. I'd feel terrible if I took longer than a month.

>Commission my fetish for $85
>Quality is sandbagged compared to usual work. Decide not to commission again, though follow her on Twitter due to her feed having interesting stuff about vidya and working in Japan.

>Commission my fetish about 80 or so from someone who came to my dA expressing interest
>Doesn't follow every detail, but did a pretty good job handling the fetish itself though.
>Decide not to commission again because their queue is fucking insane and I'd rather wait a 3-5 weeks than 3-5 months on a work.

There are more affordable artists, I know. I just like to take chances on new (as in never done the material before, not new talent) artists sometimes, hoping for the best and am willing to accommodate them in the sketch phase to make sure they have the right shit going on.

I'd probably do it again if someone's style is appealing enough.

>>9158930
a lot of commissioners have downright shitty ideas that make for an absolutely soul-crushing drawing experience, so many artists get hung up on the responsibility of drawing them, even for money

>>9171990
and if you're like this fucking guy and go around asking randos to draw a fetish they don't share, that just makes it worse.

no, really, you guys have no idea how idiotic it is when someone comes to you to buy a pic with subject matter completely contrary to the stuff you usually make. like, I draw pretty vanilla str8 fur stuff and I have people coming to me asking for scat, bara, footshit, etc. it's fuckin wacky.

like, what do you fuckers expect? for me to actually put my heart and soul into a pic of babs bunny taking a dump? you're fucking nuts if you think I'm going to put 110% into that, no matter how much you pay me.

it's shit taste my friend

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>All these names not being said
Do you all want more people to fall victim to these asshats or something?

This theiving fucktard

https://www.furaffinity.net/user/mystery-sketch/

>>9173720
>the one post itt that gives a name doesn't actually provide any info about what they did and comes off like someone assblasted about them for no reason
truly amazing, thank you anon

>>9173720
Yeah please explain what you mean by thieving, I'm interested

>>9173787

This thread is fucking hilarious,
Apparently everyone who commissions porn is brain damaged.

>>9174246
Well, it takes a certain amount of retardation to waste so much money on something like this.

That said, I am looking to commission an artist willing to draw my shemale kitty OC :^)

>>9174399
You can bid on my YCH. Starting bid 75, Autobuy at 350
Flat color, base by CWC

>>9174448
so how many posts until you start directly whiteknighting for artists?
kind of predictable by this pint

>>9173787
>commission faggot 6 months ago
>faggot gives me sketch
>looks fine
>asks for the $40 if I'm good with the sketch
>okay
>tells me they'll get to the lineart in the next couple of days
>a week passes
>nothing
>contact them politely asking what the hold up is
>get a mouthful of shit about their "disability" and how I'm causing them a nervous breakdown
>tell artist to give me a refund as I no longer want to commission them because of awful work ethic/personality
>gets all pissy but says I'll be given a refund
>hear nothing from them, no refund. nothing
>try to contact them numerous times
>never got a reply
>never got a refund
>never tried to commission anyone since

And yes I was ass blasted, but mainly because of their shit attitude.

>>9174507
I don't even know what you're implying
What convoluted bullshit situation did that little autistic brain of yours conjure up?

>>9174448
I actually wasn't aware of that site, so thanks for pointing me there, but I want to flesh her out a bit more with a couple quicker commissions in the 50-100 range before dropping 350, especially since you didn't give me your name or any samples.

>>9174733
shit neither did I, I was just shitposting

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>>9173284
2nd anon you're replying to,

There's a good chance said artist draws lewds and TF/TG before I even throw shit at their door and my shit's fairly tame or at least doesn't involve using the bathroom. I can get not wanting to draw Babs Bunny taking a dump and all that but the shit that makes my dick hard isn't hardly even NSFW much less gross.

My grievance was that I've seen cleaner looking artwork from their end before and I paid for a glorified sketch. The only reason why I didn't raise a fuss over it was because I didn't want to get into an argument with the artist or anything at the time. It's been 3 years since, I could very well revisit the idea with another artist more open on tackling it now. Really, I'm just pointing out that just because you spend more doesn't necessarily mean satisfaction or quality's guaranteed.

>>9158387
all of them, because kikes.

BUMPING DIS SHIT

WolfForHire
Cost me payed 10-15$
wait a month nothing from him. Ask about my commission got block.

>>9173284

if you don't feel excited to try and draw something you've never done before you aren't an artist

quit being a memeing shit trying to scalp scribbles for cash and just kys yourself out of the fandom and life in general

>>9179516
>if you don't feel excited to try and draw something you've never done before you aren't an artist

While I'll agree the lack of diligence for a work ONE IS PERFECTLY AT LIBERTY TO REJECT LIKE ANY OTHER COMMISSION ARTIST CAN, I don't think the lack of willingness to draw something that makes one uncomfortable makes one any less of an artist.

The comfort zone clause is more about breaking bad drawing habits or overcoming pitfalls like being shit at hands or backgrounds -- objective things, really.

Sure, I can be bummed if an artist rejects my fapbait, but personally speaking it's half as disappointing as artists who refuse to grow in ability, are stuck in a wall for their bad habits or think they can get by not getting better on the parts they have trouble doing.

Artists who are stuck drawing like crap and can't figure why they can't stop being crap are the worst. At least an artist that rejects you is accomplished enough to draw something you want.

>>9180083
>but personally speaking it's NOT half as disappointing

Not saving face, I just think faster than I type.

>>9174525
you couldn't appeal/refund it via paypal?

>>9181209
not him but 6 months after the fact seems like a long time

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>>9174733
How does ~$20 USD for something like this? I'm pretty new to the commission scene so i'm trying to get the ball rolling.

>>9182417
Cute

>>9182417
its not bad for $20
I've seen other artist who will charge more than that for the quality that you got

I commissioned 2 pictures from an artist. He sent me the preview sketches on March 24th 2015 and I paid him the same day. I sent him a message on June 23rd asking if there was a backlog on commissions and he said "a bit, just have to color yours".

I sent him another message on September 23rd about it since it had been 6 months, and he said that he was really busy and still had it pending.

I then saw that he did a New Year’s commission for someone around Christmas, so I asked the commissioner how long it took from the time he paid to when his commission was finished, and he said that it took about a week or so.

I was getting annoyed that I'd been waiting for months while he constantly cranked out personal art every 2-3 days and even took and finished another commission, so I asked him on January 4th for an update, and he said “Just a bit. Sorry i'm hardly updating a lot here and on Patreon. (Also holidays crap, ugh)”

So on January 24th, I told him that it had been exactly 10 months and I wanted to know where my commission was, and he said "Gotta send it to ya today :) ... finally... sorry :B". 3 hours later I got my pictures.

I try to remember that artists are normal people too, but I think i'm a bit too patient, especially when an artist cranks out over 170 personal pictures and Patreon stuff between the time I pay them and when they finish my commission.

>>9182640
What was the commission? Maybe it was some super hard one

>>9182640
dude fuck yeah what the fuck? I woudlve asked for my money back after like a month
I try to get shit done within 3 days

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Hey artists, if you don't have commissions open, why aren't they open? Do you know you procrastinate and don't want to keep your buyer waiting? Are you just uninterested? Is making art really just your side thing? etc

>>9182640
I get that artists are people, but if they can't respect the 2-3 week production cycle ASSUMING a very tight queue, that's where you gotta draw the line.

10 months is unacceptable.

>>9182417
Are you currently open for commissions?

>>9183453
I don't open when I know I don't have the time or when something important comes up. I am not going to take commissions when I don't have time to.

Also, I refuse up front payments because of this. I don't want you paying for something I might forget about. The product must have dedication in order for me wanting payment, not paying me and hope I get around to it.

>>9174525
do you have no idea what a chargeback is?

>>9182504
>>9182566
Thanks you guys.
>>9184758
Yes. I'll have lots of free time, thanks to summer. Message me if you're interested. http://josephtlewdart.tumblr.com/

>>9182664
It was simple, and I paid after he showed me the sketches. All he had to do was color them, which took almost a year apparently.

>>9183235
Yeah, i'm dealing with an artist now who has barely touched his commission queue because he wants to focus on Patreon and making a comic, and i've been waiting for over a year with other people who haven't even seen so much as a WIP sketch. He ignored everyone's PMs for a while too. My bank wouldn't wouldn't do a chargeback either.

>>9185015
why do you put up with that shit, get your money back

>>9184983
I'll keep you in mind.

>>9182417
rreeEEEEEEEEEEE
I WANT TO ADVERTISE
https://www.furaffinity.net/gallery/stardrgn/
https://www.furaffinity.net/commissions/stardrgn/

>>9183453
I feel like it would be too much pressure, I dont want to dissapoint anyone.
I'm not where I want to be yet

>>9183453
Every time i take commissions I procrastinate so i don't want to take people's money and waste their time. But at the same time i feel eager to do one but it always ends up the same.

>>9183453
Because I can draw backgrounds properly and I hate furries.

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>out of all these stories, only two or so of the artists from them were ever named
Are furries really this retarded, or do you hate each other so much that you want others to be scammed by those artists as well?

>>9184983
>>9185138
Though I don't have a tumblr account. Would that be a problem?

>>9185365
http://josephtlewdart.tumblr.com/ask/
Send me an ask with a method I can contact you through. I use Discord and Steam regularly, but whatever works for you. I won't be able to reply to it, so make sure it's all correct.

>>9185413
I'll send you an email and we can take it from there, but that won't be any time soon. I have a few ideas right now, but I probably won't make a final decision for a commission until another day.

>>9185578
Sounds good. Take your time, there's no rush.

>>9179516
>you're going to draw scat and you're going to LIKE it!!!

>>9182417
that's barely worth $2 USD

fuckoff

>>9187120
lol fucking dick

>>9184832
literally me

>>9187120
Personally I'd say closer to 10-12, not the full 20 for it, but god damn even a jew like me thinks 2 dollar is really undercutting it

>>9179372
>WolfForHire

I feel bad for you if your fetish is so niche you have to settle for that dude's shitty quality art.

I am not even bothered by the subject matter, his art is just so fucking ugly to look at. What did you try to get from him?

>>9183453
I open for commissions if I need money, but drawing other people's stuff is boring. People will come to you with the most bland ideas or ask you to draw some fetishy stuff or characters you've never expressed any interest in doing (which seems dumb on their behalf, why go to someone for something you can't even assume you might get a quality return on?)

I'd rather just do my own thing.

>>9185347
I am guessing the general assumption is if you name a name, your identity can be figured out from people looking into the artists gallery, and you can be called out.

This being 4chan, personal anonymity is important, so potentially revealing your identity is not worth the risk of naming a shitty artist.

I dont remember which artist it was, it was one of those popufur ones on FA, im sure someone here might know who im talking about, but basically they have a commission queue that is like 100+ people long because they make a journal like every week opening up 10 ~ 20 slots before finishing even one image of their last batch and their front page shouts was just filled with people asking about their commissions or refunds and boy that was an entertaining shit show.

>>9184832
kek, melvisMD ended up deleting all of the cub related stuff immediately after posting this and put in new commission rules, which they're in the right to, but one rule really fucked me up. She doesnt want to draw anthro on feral, as in a female feral getting fucked or anything by anthro or humans, but if its a feral doing the fucking to the anthro, that is 100% okay with her. I also found it kind of fucked up that they didn't approve of cub art but then like, immediately the same week they announced they would no longer be doing that (and multiple times encouraged that she wants to take more trans commissions) she posted art of the miraculous ladybug and that cat dude who are both like, 15 or 16 years old in the show. Good art but boy they fucking confuse me.

>>9185152
>not a single picture with a background?

>>9185347
it just shows that people who buy commissions are fucking retarded

>>9190487
fucking this. Artists are free to take however long they want you fucking autists, so quite whining like a little pathetic bitch about how long they take!

>>9190587
That's some pretty retarded reasoning, or somebody here has pointed you out.

>>9190672
fuck you shitnigger you fuckers can't tell me what to do.

>>9190587
its as if people want the service they're paying for to happen in a respectable and timely manner

>>9190587
that was not what I meant

and no they aren't

Heard stories about a legendary Korean commissioner

>>9190807
togepi?

>>9190807
when you're a heart surgeon
you can afford anything

>>9190807
I think togepi has spent more money on commissions than I have on basic necessities in my entire life.

>>9190957
Saving lives by day
Ruining art by night

>>9183453
People have been asking if I'm going to start taking commissions for over a year now. I've got over 10,000 followers on tumblr, I've had prices figured out for months, I have a PayPal set up, but I just can't seem to do it. Apparently I'm a major autist, and the mere act of accepting money from people skeeves me out, because I'm the extremely unhealthy kind of humble, and refuse payment for basic things, even if offered.

There's something wrong with me.

>>9191113
Think of it from a different perspective

Obviously if you're doing art for free then you must find the activity fun, right? Drawing whatever you want without having to follow any specific guidelines must be liberating. It's probably something you've been doing for a long time considering your follower count

But commissions change that. You're not doing art for yourself anymore. You're not free to draw whatever you want anymore. You can't take as much time as you need either, because the commissioner expects it to be done in a reasonable amount of time. And the things they request would probably make you uncomfortable. Maybe it's that thought that you're turning a fun hobby into something akin to a job that's stopping you. You shouldn't feel bad about not wanting to have to deal with any of that stress

Should I put on my page that I'm accepting commissions?
Or should I just wait until people become interested and approach me instead?

Currently, i'm getting some request from people.

>>9191270
That is a small factor. I'm actually excited by the idea of doing commissions, especially of other people's characters. But my hangup doesn't only apply to art.

>in high school
>child of family friend having trouble in math class, and needs a tutor
>once a week, 1 hours sessions
>offer $100 a session
>goes on for 10 or 12 weeks
>end of first session, trying to give me payment
>refuse
>do all sessions for free

I don't know what's going on, but I need to get over it. At least they passed their math class.

>>9185413
Just sent an ask if you didn't get swamped. No tumblr here either, but just to be safe, my email's dovecoon at gmail.

[spoiler]I don't know why people are scared of posting emails here, I've posted mine on /toy/ and /co/ more than a few times and have never gotten anything the spam filter didn't catch.[/spoiler]

And any other artists looking to knock out a few commissions, I'm still trying to flesh out the character, so I'd really like a few quick, cheap ones right now - but I'm not against things in the 50-100 range later on.

>>9188880
dogboner?

>>9158387
>it's another complain about artists but be too much of a pussy to say their name thread
What is the fucking POINT then

>>9173284
So just don't draw it then? Refund their money, explain why, and move on rather than keep the client waiting and becoming fodder for these kinds of threads.

>>9181338
Bullshit. I've gotten charge backs for longer. They should have never let it get to that point in the first place.

>>9184832
>putting out 9+ commissioned pieces in 9 months
Better than 95% of commission "artists" out there.

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>people who I offer commissions to are always nice and understanding even though I take eons and procrastinate
>feel like crap when the commission is finally done and they still want to pay even after I offer it for free.

>>9190957
I heard that guy is in financial ruin from his macro addiction

>>9192160
where did you hear that?

The root of all chronic depression is the fear of disappointing others, and this thread only serves to display the sheer level of impossibility of a commissioner becoming successful.

People with depression tend to have a hyper-awareness of other's feelings, to the point where they put those feelings before their own. This is truly how I've felt in the past. I see threads like these that aim to demonize artists, people like myself, for not living up to their expectations. I feel paralyzed worrying if I'm going to appear on the list of judgement.

But that probably won't ever happen.

I used to be a person who draws stuff on the internet, but now I doubt I'll ever have a reason to draw stuff again, let alone commissions. Why would I ever want to draw things for people who are just going to take everything I've ever done and put me on a pedestal of public humiliation? Why would anyone want to put themselves in the position of being harassed just for the nature of what they are doing?

I've seen so many artists on 4chan come and go. They start out getting praise for what little they're bringing to the table, gaining momentum. Once the self-esteem of the artist is brought up enough, that's when the anonymous users strike those people down. They tell them that they weren't worth anything in the first place. That they 'could have been the next big thing', but now all they are is a huge ball of failure. The artist falls into a state of doubt, paranoia, and regret.They'll tell themselves they'll never be as foolish to let their naive trust of others surface again.

So congratulations I guess on continuing to kill the spirits of the source of the only thing that matters on 4chan: drawings and images. Not that this post will make a difference. The people who browse this site grind through artists like a slaughterhouse, getting as much out of them as they can, and then moving on to the fresh generation of artists who haven't had their spirits destroyed for not being perfect.

>>9192918
Whats up sunibee

>>9190957
So is he a lawyer or a heart surgeon

>>9193069
Both

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>>9190587
>Artists are free to take however long they want you fucking autists

For a request, sure. If there's money involved, respect the 2-3 week rule or maintain communication if there's gonna be delays. The best ability is availability and divas can be replaced.

>>9192918
>Why would I ever want to draw things for people who are just going to take everything I've ever done and put me on a pedestal of public humiliation?
You probably choose to ignore the people that like your stuff so you can feel like a victim which is really asshole behavior. It's disappointing for an artist to disappear just because of people calling them shit when there are more people that surround them with appreciation.

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>>9192918
>being depressed because a bunch of degenerates lowkey jacking off to your art calls you a loser

>>9192918
I'm an aspiring smut artist and I can partially relate to this. However I've noticed that it helps to drop the "seriousness". Just try to have fun while drawing and while talking to other people online. Even when it gets serious to the point of money getting involved and running a business, the fun should still be there. Enjoy the simple things. Glowing neon dicks are fun to draw, simply because it's just so absurd.

>>9192057
How? Paypal wouldn't let me after that amount of time, and my bank refused as well.

Since this is apparently just the 'general commissioning stuff' thread now, mind if I ask a question? Obviously, this varies depending on the artist, but in general, is it better to give as much detail as possible when getting a commission, or is it better to leave it more up to the artist unless the details are very important?

>>9182566
You have to take into account the fact that quality doesn't automatically mean high pay. Someone like Miupix can charge up to 300$ for an otherwise 20-50$ piece because he is popular.

>>9193839
I usually give the basic details that I want (setting, background, time of day etc if it's a backgrounded pic), character reference(s) and whatever I want said character doing in the picture
if you've got a specific pose in mind then provide an example for them to reference

it honestly depends on you whether you want to be specific about it

>>9193354
Yeah, I'm gonna go with this.

>>9192918
If people like the shit you do, keep them invested. Keep them coming back. If you regret drawing something, you should have set some boundaries in the first place instead of saying "yes" for approval you probably didn't value in the first place

The hard fact is that you really can't please everybody. It sucks but it's also very liberating. Some of your clients could just be speaking out of hurt rather than stab you in the back. You should take that into consideration as well.

I suppose you might have a point about things being all take and no give, but what are you looking for in your art? If you have a fine paying job, you don't need the money for commissions (though the would be magnates here probably will be the first to say there's no such thing as having too much money -- especially if you're not in the 1%) and if you're worried about a potential industry position being besmirched by porn, just consider pen name or something.

You're likely not going to find a meaningful audience if all they want is someone that either updates frequently or draws exactly what they like, but really giving up just because you may or may not have been referred to with anything less than approval doesn't mean you stop.

However, I encourage a little introspection as to whether or not anyone in your audience who meant you well was treated in kind or brushed over. The shitflinging doesn't exist in a vacuum.

>>9193839
Depends on how particular you are about the picture. If you don't really care if the artist takes liberties with it as long as the general idea is done, leave it up to the artist.

>>9193839
It's a commission, you're allowed to go into detail, but for the love of fuck, try to have visual aids ready.

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>>9193354
Can't speak for the other guy, but in my experience art tends to be a pretty intensely personal production. It's already a constant trapeze act of practicing, trying not to compare yourself disfavorably to better artists but learn from them, trying to get and actually make use of constructive criticism, and typically dedicating your entire self to piece after piece trying to make something that is both satisfactory to you (which it never will be) and other people while putting it on display to be torn to shreds by anyone who might be in a bad mood or decide they just don't like you.

It can be really gratifying at times and believe me, I'm glad that some of the dumb shit I've put out has made people laugh. That's often an important part of just making it through the day. But depending on your mindset (which is already liable to be an unstable one, being any sort of creatively-minded person), it can be REALLY hard to develop a thick enough skin to deal with the people who just want to tear you down for no better reason than to make themselves feel superior.

I did art because it was my happy place. I never actually turned to porn because, massive collection though I may have, I was raised a Christian kid so anyone who would raise objection to anything pornographic I might deign to make myself would awaken that voice in me that only needs external validation to make me feel like I'm legitimately doing something wrong. What actually broke the camel's back in my case, though, was when my art became a tangential component in an explosively messy breakup. So art no longer feels like a safe place and I don't like doing it anymore.

You aren't necessarily discounting the fact that some people enjoy your art if you stop doing it because of people who don't. Maybe you're just fed up of catching shit for something that you're volunteering your time to do in the first place.

That said, /trash/ is pretty chill about that sort of thing but not so much other boards.

Only ever had one issue with commissioning art. Commissioned a couple of TF pics from one a while ago and it took them a few months to do them but they have since turned around and worked regularly on their queue and have started using commission slots so they don't overload themselves with work so props to them for working out their issues and managing it.

I did have a real issue with someone I commissioned a custom kigurumi from a few years back though. It was an artist who browsed and was recommended on /cgl/ and I emailed them for a slot.
I think I got a couple status update emails in the first few weeks and then silence for a couple months. When I tried emailing them I got no response but their cosplay blog was updating daily with their own personal projects, couldn't even get a refund through.
Time kept passing and eventually one day I saw a thread on /cgl/ made by another one of her customers who was in the exact same situation as me and we chatted it up about our problems with no response from the artist for months on end.
Surprise surprise, she emails me same day apologising and saying it is nearly done.

I got my kig in the end but jesus fuck that was a shitty experience. Her name was coscakes but I don't think she takes commissions any more now.

>>9194098
>Maybe you're just fed up of catching shit for something that you're volunteering your time to do in the first place.
But artists to let that get to them instead of the appreciation and love. The majority of the time these artist get 10 times more compliments and good comments than hate or they choose to got to places and interact with people who dislike them in the first place and then feel like a personally attacked victim.

>it can be REALLY hard to develop a thick enough skin to deal with the people who just want to tear you down for no better reason than to make themselves feel superior.
Especially if you don't try.

anybody ever commission some plushies?
if so, got some recommendations for some good artists?

>>9194430
You can greet 50 nice people and 1 asshole in a day, and I guarantee you the asshole will be the one you remember.

>>9194098
>You aren't necessarily discounting the fact that some people enjoy your art if you stop doing it because of people who don't.
Yes you are. You're saying that the opinions of people who don't even give a shit about you are worth more than the opinions of people who care.

>>9194526
see >>9194507

>>9194439
depends on your pricerange and what you are looking to get made senpai

>>9194507
I know artists tend to be sensitive and mentally unstable and all... But you have to remember a person who is an asshole to people on the internet probably has a lot of personal issues as well. A healthy bit of arrogance can help you shrug it off. Just think "well, at least I drew something and he didn't". Or "at least I got 50 positive comments, he didn't". This works for me, anyway.

>>9194507
That's a completely different situation and not even always true. And that doesn't mean I'd let the asshole stop me from pleasing the other nice people. I have to deal with customers every day at work so I know about dealing with assholes. Grow some balls jesus christ.

>>9194581
That works for me when it's something I have actual confidence in in the first place. I actually put some effort into my Steam reviews, and some of the bile-laden comments trying to tear those down when they don't agree with me give me a genuine laugh.

I was never what I would call confident in my own art, though. Trying to be confident in something that you know is flawed and are constantly trying to improve, without plugging your ears to criticism, is a hell of a balance to strike.

>>9194700
just post your art so we can bully you.

>ctrl+f
>no solfinger/solfanger
At least they nuked their tumblr recently.

>>9194592
>I have to deal with customers every day at work so I know about dealing with assholes
As do I, but at work I don't have the option of just saying "fuck it" and retiring to the break room for the rest of the day, nor do I typically get the sort of assholes that I'm worried are going to track me down and put a bomb in my mailbox or some shit.

>>9194820
lol jesus, what kind of people do you draw for?

>>9194863
Internet people, the fuck do you think

>>9194739
nigga I haven't drawn in 4 years, I know my art is terrible without needing to hear it

>>9194820
Try to stop being a wuss. That would help a lot. You think people calling your art shit while online is the end of the world and I don't get it.

>>9194906
>nigga I haven't drawn in 4 years
Post it anyway! Do it!

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>>9194913
Look my point from the start was that sometimes you're just sick of having verbal abuse slung at you and saying that it's asshole behavior to not want to have to deal with assholes is kind of assholish.

>>9190926
>>9190993
I need something like a direct link or something to be able to find him

>>9194991
You could just not pay attention to them and focus on interacting with the people who like you like anybody else would but lots of artist rather stay a victim attention whore. Giving in to the people who dislike you instead of people who do is retarded.

>>9195026
https://togepi1125.tumblr.com/

>>9183453
I have a fulltime job and free time is much more valuable to me than money right now.

>>9183453
bc I don't know if my art is commission worthy.

>>9195074
I'd love to live on whatever plane of existence you do in which stress is a literal nonfactor in anything.

>>9192918
>I've seen so many artists on 4chan come and go. They start out getting praise for what little they're bringing to the table, gaining momentum. Once the self-esteem of the artist is brought up enough, that's when the anonymous users strike those people down
I was actually thinking about this the other day. If you look around when someone posts a drawing if it's pretty shit tier and looks like they just started out or its just some cutesey chibi shit people will praise it but I think they're just trying to be nice.
I started out like that too but then as you get better very few anons will try to talk shit. Not straight up insulting or pointing anything out, they just post some passive aggressive shit.
I have a feeling it's shittier artists, wouldn't be the first time.

I understand what you mean by dissapointing others too, though. I used to draw for the drawthreads and used to get nothing but positive remarks even when I just started out.
But it only took dissapointing that one guy, feeling responsible that he can't request again in the thread. Even though the picture itself did get nothing but positive remarks again.
So now I just go into the drawthreads, take requests and post them offsite where I can't dissapoint the OR and just rake in some faves/watches.
That's just he nature of 4chan though, you're gonna get shit on by some random anon, or maybe some jealous artist.
Just stick to furaffinity, tumblr, wherever. Feels good when you get new watchers, favorites and comments with every new picture.
We artists gotta stick together, and if someone talks shit and isn't a content creator or is worse than you then it doesnt really matter.
Of course, I appreciate actual criticism. But I don't think I've ever gotten any without asking for it.

>>9195166
It's called being a functioning adult. Majority of artists "stressed" and suffering from "depression" just because someone doesn't like their stuff is are full of shit and attention seeking. But keep making excuses for being a coward who only focuses on the negative.

>>9194016
>>9194083
>>9194096
Thanks. Getting some OC commissions has been something I've been meaning to do for years now. It'd be nice not to have to worry that the character's owner's going to log on and ask me to stop using it - and I've been rp-ing long enough that that's happened a couple times, actually.

>>9194574
its just some robot ocs of mine
and I'm willing to spend upwards of $150

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>>9195220
>majority of artists faking stress and depression for attention

You know, I was TRYING to have an actual discussion but then you had to go and be That Guy

We artists haven't forgotten your commission, even if it's been a few months. We think about it every day.

The fact that you paid us for a drawing, and that you're anxiously waiting for it, and that we're betraying your expectations every time we procrastinate crosses our minds daily. The money we make from your commission really isn't worth the distress it gives us.

Leonardo da Vinci took four years to paint the Mona Lisa. Even though if he had done it in 1 sitting it would've taken him 10 hours.

>>9195298
how much is "upwards of $150" because 'robots' sounds like it would be a complicated design and custom plushies can cost a lot, especially if you want something in a decent size and made of good material

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>>9195301
Don't discuss any further then. No harm done

>>9184832
My father.
I watched him keep my family afloat off of his adult 3d models and pass up the sacrament every sunday.

>>9195334
nevermind found something
its under $100

>>9195301
>>9195220
kikes can faking anything

>>9195089
thank you

>>9195355
story?

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>>9184832
Sure feels great learning how to art specifically because there are so few artists as extreme as I like. Hard to be dead inside from drawing stuff you don't like when Wabaki's one of my favorite artists.

>>9195636
You probably already are dead inside.

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>>9195667
Now why would you think that?

>>9195318
I'm gonna guess that this only applies to a small amount of artists who take forever to deliver, and the rest just don't give a shit unless people start talking and it threatens their public image.

>>9195318
I've a question.

Have you ever tried making studies of things you're not familiar with? Or at least do figure practice to tackle poses that give you difficulty? Even people who can be paid for their art still practice, just like professional athletes still have to practice.

Leonardo da Vinci was a busy man being a polymath, so drafting engineering plans was probably far more interesting than painting and that painting was a portrait rather than some anime girl or strongfat dogman. I don't think standing on his name as a shield makes you exempt from being a flake.

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>None of you niggers named names

how about listing artists who are really cool guys

>trusts subhumans

>>9173284
I expect you to put your heart into it if I'm paying you a good amount of money. You aren't being paid to like the fetish, stop making excuses to justify poor work ethic and snobbery.

>>9200076
Nurinaki

>>9200076
watching his stream, thefuckingdevil seems like a pretty cool guy when he has his mic on and he's really nice too.
the only other person I've watched is slugbox and he's constantly bitching and talking shit about random stuff, pretty annoying.
I actually don't even like slugbox's art im not sure why im following him, i'll probably rectify that right now.

>>9200076
Vader seems pretty chill, as well as Guoh and Plague.

>>9200076
Danza's a pretty sweet guy, honestly, based on his behavior in streams

>>9158387
Gah can't remember the name it was a good 4yrs ago now.. similar story, 8 months passed, done loads of other commissions except mine.. when I was like seriously just refund me, they replied back with they are doing it now, not even 2 hours later and they are done... Was the worse shit they've did I swear, terrible.
I've probably commissioned a good 160 pics in 9 years, half of those are either shit, MIA or took over 4 months.

>>9183453
Maybe if I was fast I would.. but I just don't need the money/pressure and I draw for my dick lol.
Like how could I charge someone for 10 hours of work, that's how long they usually take start to finish.
If I get fast like I said... Maybe, but I wouldnt do OCs without charging a shit OC tax... Different coloured eyes you say? + £100 lol.
≤ smittyg is my art name

>>9201091
smittyg as in the ex mlp/lps artist who lost all his stuff when going to a brony convention in america cus the taxi drove away with it still in the trunk?

>>9200076
I like Darkminou. Played Awesomenauts with him a few times. Pretty cool guy.

>>9195318
>flaky artist compares himself to Da Vinci

Is this the famous creative ego I keep hearing about? Fucking get over yourself. Keep your queue to a manageable level, properly communicate with your client about how long the process will take, or don't fucking take commissions.

>>9200076
Watanaza
Plague

That's pretty much it.

>>9199938
>>9201293
samefag

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I mean, I always figured there was a reason they're doing this stuff instead of going into the entertainment industry.

I've never commissioned art but according to friends mrsenpai takes 5-7 months to do icons.

>>9201114
that's the one! And the insurance never paid out cause when I got back to the UK they police hadn't filed a report... Even though I went to the station and made one. Gooooood times!
Still draw LPS(Zoe) but keep it to myself these days desu

>>9183453
I get anxious enough over art as it is, I don't need to add money to the mix. I'd just end up one of the stories in these threads.

Luckily I can feed myself well enough from my day job for now.

>>9173284
Then don't take the money for the job, fucking retard.

>>9201580
>but keep it to myself these days desu
Why?

>>9201580
Wait, are you telling me that you still draw Zoe and don't post it online? The entire reason I'm looking forward to the new LPS series is hoping that you'll start posting her again. We need to see her with a real cock before you can retire! Please?

[spoiler]I'll... I'll pay you.[/spoiler]

>>9201580
rip all your stuff dude
I probably would've freaked the hell out

>people complain when artists take months to deliver
>people are okay with waiting 1-2 weeks for art
>i've been rushing to deliver my commissions in at most 3 days
TIL i've been working too hard on shitty furry art

>>9193069
He is a legend.

>>9201861
A piece done in 3 days or less is something I treat as exceptional, no matter how many times it happens. I still believe in the 2-3 week cycle because people gotta unwind and stuff

>>9200076
People are mixed on Joelasko's art, but he's pretty cool and is very professional.

>>9201861
>3 days
I'd pay any artist a little extra if they could do that.

>>9200076
If I've met one I would've told you
but I've never met one who was cool

>>9202324
My mom thinks I'm cool.

>>9202460
What kind of stuff does your mom draw?

>Have an idea
>Browse furaffinity til I find someone who looks like they could do it well
>Guy agrees to do my commission
>5 weeks later
>Guy is done
>Sends me the picture
>Everybody is wearing diapers.
>Nothing about diapers in anything I said to them, nothing about diapers in any of their previous posts
>Ask them about it
>They developed a diaper fetish after we initially talked
>Every post they've done since has been diapers

Fug

>>9200076
Those are usually on dA, not 4chan.

Although, I probably don't mind Bunnox, aipiepo and BB. Think there's more.

>>9183453
I have a full time job where Ii make plenty of money so I dont really need to have them open!

>>9202528
If this really happened im kindof glad you got ripped off just for our added amusement.

>>9201861
Post your art.

>>9202185
Holy shit, that's a relief. And here I was, feeling guilty whenever I went a day without working on a commission when I had one.
>>9202626
Already did. >>9182417
That being said, I've only done 4 or so commissions, and they were people I've known. I'm gonna start taking it a bit easy in regards to commissions from now on.

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>>9173720
alarm bells shouldve been going off just reading their fa page

>>9202852
Jesus

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>>9195318
If you're taking months to do someone's commission because you have a backlog of commissions or are actually stressed and need a break, that's understandable

If you're taking months to do someone's commission because you keep drawing double-digit amounts of """gift art""" for your circlejerk over something someone paid cold hard cash for, eat a raw cactus

>>9202852
>Activist
How much you wanna bet they're just a slacktivist?

>>9202475
Nothing.

>>9202852
>Futa is le ebin transphobic maymay
"Artists and commissioners to avoid 101" right here.

>>9201861
>3 days
I feel bad if i don't get a picture, or at least the inks, to a person within 24 hours of being paid.

being quick and responsive is a good trait, don't stop doing it, commissioners will love you for it and come to you specifically because you can get their idea done in a hurry.

it's the whole "strike while the iron is hot' thing. If you get a commissioner's idea done while it's still hot to them, they will love it even more than if the idea becomes passe in a few weeks time. (ask yourself, how long can you keep fantasizing about the same specific idea?)

>>9203581
>If you're taking months to do someone's commission because you keep drawing double-digit amounts of """gift art""" for your circlejerk over something someone paid cold hard cash for, eat a raw cactus

Dealing with this right now. Not sure what goes through artists' heads when they decide to blow off people who paid them money upfront to work on random doodles and patreon.

>>9203893
>paid them money upfront
>patreon

Is patreon not upfront payment? Artists have just as much responsibility to their patrons as commissioners I would imagine, in both situations, you are honorbound by payment.

>>9203945
Patreon is more of a collective and shit like commission raffles much less a paywall tier to be in said raffle tends to happen.

Not always, but general speaking

>>9203945
>Artists have just as much responsibility to their patrons as commissioners I would imagine, in both situations, you are honorbound by payment
Not him, but artists don't care, especially popular ones

Their hugbox friends and fanboys with defend practically anything they do; they could blow up a good portion of the U.S. and they'd still defend them

>>9204116
They can't really just ignore the laws though right? I mean you can't really accept money from someone and then just not do what they commissioned you to do.

>>9204116
Hell, you could have an artist suspected of bioterrorism and people will demand a slap on the wrist because they drew good lewds.

>>9203945
Nah. If you have a Patreon, it's fine to finish working on a piece for it before getting to the people who've already paid you money, but it's not good to only focus on drawing for Patreon to attract more subscribers and leave commissioners waiting for months on end.

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>>9158634
>>9158930
>>9159186
>>9174525
>>9182640
im writing a comic, i have to have someone else do the art as i dont have the tools to help yet, one thing i learned from the previous artist i had, they all think they're the next picaso.

especially if they go to school for it, they're essentially taught to be professionally pretentious, the original artist wouldn't contact me for like 2 weeks with any updates on the panels.

his reasoning? "i dont have to tell you everything that's happening with the comic".

i nearly dropped him right there and was ready to get someone to redo the whole project. thankfully he got me my shit, still dropped him.

i know another artist who does commissions, she's a good friend but goddamn is she slow at actually doing commissions, most artists are just lazy.
>>9192918
thee most pathetic excuse for shit work ethic i've ever heard

>>9202852
if an artist list bullshit reasons why they wont be timely about their art, drop that shit.

>chronic fatigue
from what? drawing too much chibi shit?

>>9204354
>Patreon money
>"Pay me to work on ideas or decide ideas in a committee"
>Higher priority because collective salary

>Guy who paid for a piece they planned out and put some money away for
>Doesn't matter because not memes

>>9204457
Jewtreon is a cancer and I hope something horrible happens to it soon

>>9204566
patreon is fine when you're giving money to a channel or some shit but when it's artists it's fucked

>>9204606
This.

Entertainment on video works because it follows a set formula and the money is just so they can afford to blow off work to deal more with their passions.

Artists though, some of us want to rent their skill for our vision. Patreon is virtually art-by-committee, which is fine if you're a normalfag just happy to see fanart or the artist's skill on established properties but the fact is everyone values artists differently which makes it harder to respect in that case.

>>9204606
Well, yeah, I meant artists, but I guess it would be unfair to other mediums if something happened to it

I know they made it against the rules to hold raffles to patrons, so hopefully they'll do something that fucks up artists again

>>9182417
completely devoid of anatomy, I wouldn't pay anything for it. Keep drawing but outside of giving it away for free to autists in the draw thread I don't see much value as a consumer.

Not trying to be an asshole, just honest. Maybe if you drew fucked up fetishes and I was really blueballed and wanting to support amatuer artists it would be $1-5. The market is saturated with some real good talent in that price range though.

>>9188942
I can't believe I supported MelvisMD, they had one of the least cancerous Patreon models as well but they are moving to producing generic futa/tranny bullshit and faggot stuff pandering to the same demographic that has gutted the community since ~2007. Never again. Every time I think I see an artist that does it right it ends in disappointment within 6 months.

Also put their Patreon on CUF.

>>9205454
At least they still take commissions, unlike most Paymeton

>>9205454
>>9205820
>Unlike most Paymeton artists who typically sellout and go full paywall
Fucki I'm tired

After reading this thread I believe now I have a fetish for making artists whore out and draw stuff that will kill their souls. Time to make some investments.

>>9205820
>Paymeton
kek'd

>>9207318
Sadly, I'm not the person who coined that

>>9204793
Didn't they go back on the no raffles thing?
Dunno how cos surely it could still count as gambling which was the problem in the first place but I thought I heard that.

Somone draw a cute puppy

>>9207787
I hadn't heard any news on that
Then again, I don't really keep track of news like that

>>9159491
they make it up.

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>>9162399
>CrazedG
Holy fuck, i'm going through Waiting Game bullshit with her too. I've got pieces that are months overdue (probably going on a year now) and yet she continues to accept new commissions AND recently jumped on-board the YCH bandwagon despite her fuckhuge queue.

Christ, being a shotafag is suffering and I tried to put up with her shit because she's one of the few artists who can do on model really well and will do loli & shota, but I've had enough.

>>9204660
>Patreon is virtually art-by-committee
This is Patreon's biggest problem, aside from paywalling. Why should I give money hoping to see something good so a bunch of other faggots can instead vote for the artist to draw Sonic fucking Link?

I genuinely cannot see the appeal of jewtreon, just get a commission instead of desperately hoping the crowd will pick the same thing you want and do it consistently enough that you're getting your money's worth.

>>9209230
It's for the people that don't care what the artist is drawing as long as he keeps fucking drawing. I can't tell you how many artists I've seen leave and try to purge their stuff because they need to get real jobs to support themselves and don't want to get found out. Paysites only work for a very small number of artists, but Patreon's smaller minimum payment and more tangible benefits make it much more viable.

Hell, at least two of my favorite artists returned specifically because of Patreon.

>>9209027
tell me about it
I've been waiting for 8 months now for art from her

but thank god I found another shota artist who does great work

>>9210077
>but thank god I found another shota artist who does great work
Name. Now.

>>9210157
Just commission any artist who draws bigger mature girls and or huge cowtits, they all draw shota nowadays.

>>9210157
Enookie

>>9183453
Side thing. I work a full time job at 50 to 55 hours a week.

Just don't have time for commissions anymore.

>>9195334
I got this bush character that'd be super easy to make. Know any artists that'd make a good plushie out of that?

>>9182417
It's an okay price. You're competent enough. Your anatomy needs a lot of work though to stand out especially since now and days artists are obsessed with hyper-detailed bodies.

>>9184832
Why is he dead inside?
He's just drawing Illuminati triangles for $$$
Nothing hard about that

>>9210225
Jesus.

Tech, engineering or medicine?

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>>9202528
... I want to know the name of this artist

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>>9211488
Engineering. Here's a doodle I did a couple weekends ago. If I had more time I'd doodle more of them furry dames.

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>>9173720
He's damage controlling boys!
Holy kek

>>9211593
I didn't know how effective these boards were at riling people up.

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>>9211593
>People aren't interested in me
>I've NEVER had commissions EVER
>Support my patreon though!

Fucking GOLD

>>9211561
Damn, that's good
I want to get into art as a hobby but I feel like if I don't devote my time to it the same way career artists do I'll never rise above mediocrity

>>9211561
Aww, so that's what happened to you, rheumatism. Stupid work. Miss your lion ladies!

>>9211561
Not really my cup of tea, but still good draughtsmanship.

I mean you make enough at your day job, but a business major would probably encourage you to keep at commissions to build a nest egg on top of that even though you're likely in a position where you're never going to want in life as you are already.

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>>9184832
This.

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>>9206340
>After reading this thread I believe now I have a fetish for making artists whore out and draw stuff that will kill their souls. Time to make some investments.

Well, doing commissions is like being a whore.

The real work isn't drawing (fucking), it's really hiding your emotions and holding your breath until it's over.
No matter how much I shower, I still feel soiled.

>ftw art slut

>>9200932
>In a Drawpile session hosted by Guoh
>He compliments my art

It was a good day

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>>9212114
>The real work isn't drawing (fucking), it's really hiding your emotions and holding your breath until it's over.

Sure fooled me.

Artist generally come off as social butterflies when handling business or have to chime in about the material. I don't mind making friends or showing consideration for one's personal schedule, but I just want my picture. Goddamn.

>>9192918

no dude

just deliver what yo're paid to, in the the time you're paid to

every single fucking person on earth has to do that

>>9185015
>waiting over a year
>ignoring everyone's messages

damn son, who?

>>9211593
>4 Patrons
>$11

Good shit.

>>9212114
Lol, Imply i don't usually enjoy drawing the stuff i'm being asked to draw, most of the time if you really don't like what they ask you just refuse.

>>9213080
Pretty much this.

It's not unrealistic for an artist to set boundaries and reject shit.

If one's just taking the money and just not trying to do it, their fault for being a milquetoast doormat and being shitty about it for lacking the ability to say "no" and not putting trust in communication.

I'm not psychic, I can't tell if you don't wanna draw something or not. Fuck trying to spare my feelings or sense of approval, but still keep the rejection professional and civil.

It's still a business transaction, albeit a private one of likely questionable matters. The least one can do is keep that in mind when accepting or rejecting a piece for the agreed sum..

>>9213239
>>9213080
Yeah, this. I'm the guy that's looking for a shemale cat cub, and I get turned down all the time because artists don't want to draw children. I don't hound them. Don't want someone who doesn't want to put their heart into it when I'm paying good money for something. The same principle applies to anything, really.

Artists shouldn't accept commissions to draw shit they don't want, or at least don't act like a martyr for doing so if they don't want to pass up the money, and commissioners need to respect that some artists have boundaries. It's a two way street.

>>9213352
>It's a two way street.
EXACTLY!

Will I be distraught a certain artist won't draw my fetish? Sure. Does it HAVE to be that artist? Not necessarily. It's not so much artists are replaceable, but yeah some characters and ideas are just as workable with another artist and some artists are pretty cool about turning a piece down without being an asshole too.

Communication is key for a good relationship between client and artist. You don't have to buy the fuck a drink, just be matter-of-fact on both ends. No gypsy bargaining. No changing an idea's visual just because "muh realism."

Just "Yes or No."

Can it be drawn? Yes or no.
Are you comfortable drawing it? Yes or no.
Can you follow instructions? Yes or no.
Is the idea too complicated even for commission standards? Yes or no.
Is the client 100% sure on their decisions? Yes or no.

That kind of thing. No inbetweens. No maybes. No, "I'll think about its." No, "anything is fine" when it's a red flag the sketch will be changed 3-5 times before it's final. Be fucking definitive on both ends.

>>9204164

Anything that deals with online transactions, especially art commisions is an unregulated fuckfest. It counts as donations that may or may not be answered by an non remunerated service(commision) or product(art), due to the lack of a binding contract that establishes obligations and definitions or a governing body that these obligations can be brought to and made to enforce. You acquire no rights by throwing money at someone, and they contract no obligation, it's all make believe and up to whether the artist or commisioner feels like being a dick or not.

Furries are fucking retards who scorn systemization and codification of conduct then bitch when they get fucked over by abusers. They act like sovereign citizens going muh free market, well guess what, if you work or deal without contracts you are spreading your ass wide open to mishandling and unethical behavior. It's inevitably going to happen, there are no negative consequences to someone scamming people for art.

Until the internet at large can create a set of rules and codes of conduct to deal in art, and that art communities have the means of punishing and enforcing compensations, this will happen and keep happening.

>>9211593
> this kike still shilling
They never really learn

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>do my first commission for a couple of dudes
>I won't take their money until the sketch is okay
>this last a few days
>they agree to the sketch and pay me
>I give them updates every day
>I keep redrawing things over the next few days cause they don't look right
>guy gives me a $10 tip cause of all the changes

>>9212387
BlueBreed. He made a journal saying that he ignored commissioners because he didn't have any progress to give. Like even if you've barely started working on someone's commission after months on end, you can at least answer their messages so people don't htink you just ran off with their money.

He gave excuses such as "my major isn't interesting anymore so i'm failing college" and "I want to focus on getting my Patreon off the ground and start up a doujin", as if that's more important than giving people what they paid for.

The only reason he even addressed the issue at all is because someone linked him to the artist-beware entry on him.

>>9214677
>The only reason he even addressed the issue at all is because someone linked him to the artist-beware entry on him.

Guilt has a funny way of wringing out the dickholes.

>>9188575
A normal sketch of a dragon. There was no fetish to it. That might be why he never did it.

>>9158634
>>9158930
This sorta happened to me. I commissioned an icon for like 20 bucks and Idk if he's alive anymore. Whayever, it's 20 bucks.

Flip side, I payed someone for a stream commission and it came out amazing. I payed the upper end of his price for it but it was still only like 35-40 bucks. I watched him spend hours on it and would have payed more. I felt like a dick. He didn't need to do all that.

>>9214832

guilt? more like the threat of public smearing.

Oy vey

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>>9192918
As a rookie artist, buck the hell up. We've all got obligations to meet, even in our hobbies. We're all knee deep in the shit down here.

>>9222125
This guy gets it.

Really, the buffer is communication.

If an artist is willing to keep you updated or PMs/emails you, it shows they care enough to keep you in mind. The 2-3 week rule is easy to extend if the artist keeps you specifically in their thoughts and conveys them directly.

>>9214494
You're one of the good fellows that gives me faith in the commission game.

>"I'll NEVER paywall my art!"
>Hides scads of alts, sketches, and side pieces behind higher tiers
I've lost count of the number of artists that do this. Fuck Patreon and fuck you if you use it as anything but a tip jar.

>>9226536
More like
>Artist said something 4 years ago which I'm still grasping at, wow they've changed what a monster.

>>9226536
Honestly, if it's stuff they don't normally post anyway, nothing's really changed.

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As an artist trying to switch to doing art full-time, these stories piss me off. I get the artist side of things, because sometimes I do get commissions that I have a lot of trouble devoting myself to due to content or some specific stylistic request, and it really does slow you down immensely when you're not confident and proud of what you're painting.

But at the same time, like some anons have said, if it's so bad you're going to take six months to do something... don't accept the work. Otherwise, fucking do it and don't distract yourself. I think a lot of artists have this idea that art is more "pure" than a "normal" job and get all tangled up in their feelings. But if you're going to take someone else's money for something, you HAVE to treat it like a "normal" job. You entered a contract with your client and you have to own up to that.

The thing I tell artists who are starting out, now, is to go take business classes or find a job that will give them similar experience. I think way too many artists go into this thinking they can just get by on their art and it's demoralizing not just for their clients but for the artists themselves. Nobody likes disappointing people. But, if you're going to take a job, fucking do it. You wouldn't keep your job writing budget reports or flipping burgers if you put off going in to work for two weeks because you didn't "feel 100%," why should you think it works differently just cause you work from home?

>>9227473
Post your art.

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>>9227788
Already did yo.

On the actual topic of shitty commission experiences, on the flip side of artists never getting around to their shit, commissioners (usually friends) who promise and promise and promise that they're going to commission are almost as bad. It's nice to have the support of intention but when you hear from the same guy for six months that he's "totally gonna pay you for art," especially when you're low on cash, it can get really irritating. I once had someone approve sketches, say they were going to pay me the next day, and then put it off and put it off for probably a month and a half. No reason why, just "totally gonna do it tomorrow, man." That said, when money hasn't actually exchanged hands yet it's a little different. Not like anyone actually has an obligation at that point in time, it's just a dick move.

I don't think I've really ever had a bad experience as a commissioner, though. I've definitely been the shitty artist before, back when I was starting out and had no sense of responsibility whatsoever, but I've always been really careful with who I commission. The nice thing about the internet is it's really easy to do a quick search and get a read on whether someone's good on their word.

I don't see enough names in this thread

>>9227473
>>9228058

100% agreed. You can stutter and bleat all you want about inspiration and motivation, but the second you take money, your commitment is absolute. If you can't muster the determination to finish it you're not fit to live off your work, plain and simple, and no matter how much of a high ground you take, it's A JOB.

>>9185347
I'm placing my bet on that most of the stories in this, or any artist hate thread ever, are made up. Whenever someone asks for a name, the post never gets a reply.
Just seems like (You) fishing with the best story that comes to their mind to me.

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>>9192155
>only do requests, 'cause I know I'd take months to complete commissions due to procrastination
>apologize weekly to everyone I keep waiting up to a point where I don't believe the "I am so sorry" phrase myself anymore and just feel like shit constantly
>They are all nice saying it's fine, I should take my time
>several art blocks later
>ended up declining the last 4 open requests and ready to close my gallery, 'cause I'm to incompetent to be an artist
>One guy replies that he doesn't care how long it takes for me to complete it. He'd wait months, because my artstyle is worth the wait for him
>Try every day to draw his request since then, but lost all of my passion and can't even sketch anything for myself anymore
It hurts to look at my tablet. I started to cover it with a towel when I don't use it, but it doesn't help.

>>9228058
I would probably commission you for a tattoo design. I like that dirty, ink style.

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>>9227473
yeah dude. i recently experienced that working as a delivery dude for amazon. somedays you just dont wanna fucking work. but you gotta work to get that cash. its not a cakewalk.

And being an artist as well. It makes me sad that these people who take peoples money and then dont do anything about it, while I'm right here and ready/willing to work (because i left that shitty amazon job) and i got rent to pay now.

And i will second the fact that yeah, you can get tangled up in your feelings, and yeah I have a lot of trouble with it which is why I rarely did commissions. But i want to get better and im happy that i have never taken longer than a month to finish a commission. but I always have that looming fear of "will this image be good enough? I hope my commissioner likes it." I hope to chill out more often if not all the time so I can pump out drawings like crazy.

>>9183453
I have commissions open right now. I wanted to do this as a side thing or maybe move it up to a legit job because i think it would be interesting but so far things arent headed that way
>feels bad.jpg

I quit my job two months ago because everyone there who managed me treated me like shit and asked me to do more and more every single day when they said they would stop doing that.
I thought i had another job lined up but i quit too early and now im jobless and shit didnt work out. i fucked up so now im going to try and pay my rent with art. I have a big stack to sit on for a while but i'm trying to bust my ass to pay off rent, and my car insurance (which is probably soon).

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Pretty standard story I guess. I've commissioned the artist several times because I like her and because she legit has money problems although they're entirely her own fault. She asks for around $20 - $30 and I would pay around $50 because I was living with my parents despite having a full time job (gap-year) and had a surplus of cash. Only asked for character drawings yet they took around 8 months to complete. I eventually received all the work with a couple of additional free coloured drawings though so I'm happy.

Commissioned one other person and their professionalism made such a difference. I emailed them with my request and the amount of money I would pay them (again with a fairly large tip); they accepted, I paid, I got the drawing within a week, with edits and the sketch.

I like to drawfag on some other boards and while I'm not great, a couple of anons have offered to pay me to draw things for them even though I was taking requests. Was only like $5 a drawing but I was flattered and worked to have them finished within a couple of days.

>>9192918
See, I don't have this problem because nobody can hate my art more than I do. I just keep doing it because some people seem to enjoy it. That's my pro strat.

>>9231769
damn, man, get some meds or something. That actually sounds like chronic depression.

>>9231769
I just stopped openly doing requests. If there is one that happens to be in my ask box that i like, i'll do it if i feel like it. That takes off a lot of pressure.

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>pay artist $20 for lineart of a gift for a friend
>his birthday is a month away, ask artist if they're ok with delivering before that date, they say yes
>the month goes by
>its my friend's birthday
>ask the artist if hes got anything ready
>nothing, says it will just take him a week
>alright, guess it'll just be a late birthday gift
>two weeks go by
>the faggot is posting entire comics in his tumblr
>no word about my fucking lineart
>they say they are sick this time
>later learn that another friend had commissioned him a month before me and he didn't deliver either
>he keeps posting more comic pages
>weeks later gives me a shallow as fuck lineart, doesn't ask for feedback on sketch, doesn't show any progress, just dumps the fucking thing on me
>My friend clearly doesn't like it but I don't even blame him for it

I only comm from streams now

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> rather just have someone out of the blue do my request (that will or will never get drawn) from the /trash/ drawthreads than pay someone to do my art because i dont want to be affiliated with the furry community

anyone else relate

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>>9239408
>no one ever takes my shitty ass requests

>>9239408
I think it's just easier to throw an artists $20 bucks than spam the drawthread for a week before one of the three drawfags in there picks it up.

I just wish there were a way to easily give money without paypal.

Like Amazon cards, but actually useful for everything.

>>9239441
surprisingly that character is actually straight, he just wears feminine clothing

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>>9239489

>>9231769
Are you gonna draw it or what?

>>9239483
Why are you paranoid about paypal? Don't do illegal shit and you're good to go.

>>9240300
I try to sterilize my varias alias, and having my name linked to furshit puts me on edge.

>>9240310
Who'll find out except the guy your commissioning?

>>9240310
Also if your name is really common, you could just deny you're a furry if people ask.
"nah, that ain't me"

>>9240310
You can make a Business PayPal account, that lets you change the name your commissioners see.

>>9240349
Even having one leak defeats the purpose of separating my online life, anon.

>>9240423
I'm a commissioner, anon, not an artist.

>>9240468
Shit, didn't read. Well, make one anyway I guess. no one will have to know your real name.

>>9240468
>Even having one leak defeats the purpose of separating my online life, anon
-> >>9240368

>>9195495
Wow sorry for late reply.
My dad has always been in "Heavy metal" and other magazines, when he got laid off on his civil engineering job he took his modeling skills that direction.
He doesn't have up to date modeling experience, so he worked free lance on what he could. People will pay good money for a 3d model of there fetish to be used in videos and pics.

>>9240468
No one will care that you're a furry.

>>9240561
Exactly. The worst people can do is throw jabs at you for your unusual tastes/lifestyle. Nothing to be paranoid of. The only people that have their lives fuck with are the those filthy loli-degenerates.

>>9240310
>>9239483
>>9239408
You have nothing to fear unless you like something gross, hyper scat for example.

>>9240656
>>9240676
Well, I wouldn't say [spoiler]fatstuff[/spoiler] is on par with scat or loli, but it's still something I'd much prefer to keep private.

>>9240701
>42*9(3+2)+110+17
>thinking anything you do online is "private"

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>>9240368
>tfw name is completely unique and every result on Google leads directly to me

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>>9242081
Oh. I'm so sorry, Anon.

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>>9239461
This
>Repost request multiple times, no one is interested
>Do this for several days
>Finally get a reply or two
>99% chance it's some anon shitposting about the request
>1% chance it turns out to be a delivery
[spoiler]>It's either complete shit or a rough w.i.p. sketch that will end up abandoned[/spoiler]

>>9240200
I want to, but it's just frustrating trying it. Stuff that used to inspire me has lost its spirit as well. I think my career is already over.