Endtown thread - Jim continues to love garbage edition. Mos

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>>9137763
Literally fucking nothing.

>>9137763
Heather is just making it harder for him to apologize.

>>9137808
Whatever happens next will happen outside the store. I guess that's relevant.

>>9137763
What *is* he wielding, anyway?

>>9139473
Looks like a plank or perhaps it's just a huge ruler.

>>9139473
That used to be a sign so I guess it's wood. Don't ask me where did they get wood from in the first place, I have no idea.

>>9139549
>>9139573
At that size and with those dimensions I feel like it'd have to be something denser than wood if he wanted to do anything more than give her a spanking.

>>9139584
Wolves are not smart. Also, thanks for putting that image in my mind.

>>9139584
What if he used the edges

>>9139584
What if he merely wants to spank her?

>>9137763
>Time for another riot plot!

I'm out.

>>9139623
You're welcome.

>>9139922
Well after she survived a ball peen to the head, not unless he hits her with the corner, on the temple, I'd say...

>>9139989
That would be weird on multiple levels.

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>>9137751
>Jim continues to love garbage
Subtle.

It's hard to believe how fast we died. From threads hitting caps to this.

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>>9142058
That reminds me.

>Not humanly possible
>Endtown threads are dying before they even get to fifty posts
>Poppy threads are thriving and going 200+

I wonder how Morbi feels about this? He was kind of an Endtown fan, and I know he's around on 4chan to see it happening...

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>>9142369
Hubris I suppose. I miss all the world building stuff we did when the RPG wasn't canceled.

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>>9143214
Hubris for us that is. I don't think Morbi really cares. I'm pretty sure he reads it outside of 4chan.

>>9142369
To be fair, they were talking about the quality of posts. Poppy might be more active but the average post isn't really.. informative.

>>9143214
Maybe we'll hear how RPGAnon's retool is going, soon, and we can have some fun with that?

>>9143425
I'd say the Poppy threads are better now than they were back then, though. You can have fun chatting in them.

>>9143522
Is there any new info on RPGanon's game?
Also while we're on a bit of a meta discussion has /trash/ as a board gotten a lot more active?

>>9143522
>You can have fun chatting in them
I'm very put off by the lack of intelligent posts. All I get to do is state the obvious or remind people of things they *should* remember easily. There is only one, maybe two persons that are worth talking with but Poppy isn't really that interesting to talk about when you get to it. Most things are pretty obvious and if you try to meta discussion the others will get defensive about every stupid thing so it's impossible.

>>9142369

Oh man, I forgot about this post completely.

> Everett screwed up the deal

Assuming Everett is RPGAnon, we never got KC's part of the story right?

> Suule will be back, he needs a break

I wonder at this point one thing - how well informed Suule was that something was gonna go belly up. Felt like this is all connected and he quit while he had the chance.

>>9143617
It comes and goes but recently there was a surge that killed a bunch of the less active disussions like the previous Endtown thread. There was a nice Rimba Racer thread I couldn't save either. Ironically, one of the threads that helped kill the Endtown one opened with a picture of Luellen.

>>9143617
Last I heard they were tweaking vehicle mechanics.

And /trash/ goes up and down day to day. I'd say it's actually been less busy than average the last two weeks or so, but busier overall than, say, six months ago.

>>9143702
I think this Poppy arc's getting more interesting. But yes, you do have to look for your discussion partners, though I will say I think the threads aren't as full of viciousness and spite as they once were.

>>9143761
All we got from KC was ambiguous accusations, even after RPGAnon had upped the ante by telling his side of it.

Suule might still be around to tell you how he felt. He pops in here from time to time.

>>9143832
Kazen's also contributing art to it.

>>9143761
>>9143832
I hope the RPG goes well. I read the Endtown RPG and it looked like it was a lot of fun.

>>9143771
>>9143832
Huh, I've just been noticing the thread keeps dying when I'm at work. It sucks that the surge happened the last thread was really good.

>>9143702
To be fair that is how most of the threads on /co/ are now.

>>9144145
Any Idea on how the new RPG is going or any way to join it?

>>9144450
I have no idea. I just wanted to know if RPGanon's project was still going.
And on that note if RPGanon is reading this thread, is it OK to post a link of the Endtown RPG?

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>>9143522
>>9143617
>>9143832

It's going good. I'm lucky enough that the testers and artists stayed with me from the Endtown RPG. Keeping the same rule system knocked down dev time and the book will probably be done in a month or two-ish. The paperwork and legal stuff will be processed probably in six. Right now it's working or lore but I think I should just put a lid on it and ship out. A tester man'd up and GM'd. He has the curse now, so now I know the system makes sense to people besides myself.

If you guys want to hear some the lore I can post a fat wad of it.

>>9143761

Let me tell you KC's side: It's nothing, that's his side. He wasn't involved at all in the business side and I think he doesn't even know a goddamn thing. He was not involved in the contract and only sat in one test session. So he has no credible info, really.

He was cool though, he drew pictures of all the characters and emailed directly his fanart of the comic each day for abit. I always wondered about that...

Lately though I heard he caught the big C. I want to email him to wish him well, but it feels too awkward.

Honestly, that contract was a screwjob and Aaron and the publisher ran rather than negotiate. Thats a very scummy thing to do. One thing that it taught me is that it's better to blow a bad deal and get away then sign it.

>>9144450
>>9144145

Sure, here you go:
https://app.roll20.net/join/1766314/zfGf2A

>>9145583
>If you guys want to hear some the lore I can post a fat wad of it.
Please do, I wonder if it's similar to Endtown.

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>>9145583
That image you posted already looks hype, I like the slugs!

>>9145583
>>9145651
Seconding. I always loved this stuff, it really hurt the threads when it vanished.

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>>9145583
Are those bunny slugs?

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>>9145693
>>9145651

O-okay, here I go:

Long past the burnout of the stars
and life in every form. There is still a
glimmer in the sky. 90% dirt and some
metal are three planets circling a glowing
spindle. Humanity did that. Humanity won
the race and advanced just enough to
survive the waves of apocalyptic events the
universe dishes out but after so long not
but a handful survive. They are spacefarers
with technologies and powers beyond
comprehension but to become so they have
gone into an unknown evolutionary ocean.
Thus humanity put itself on a pedestal and
tried to become gods not for the power but
for the responsibility.
It is the distant future. Humanity
has progressed to the point that they can
do unfathomable things like perfect
immortality or construct a real star system.
They made 2 planets and a gas giant in orbit
around a new star, also of their making. In
this system, they made engineered a race of
animal-human hybrids and populated the
system with them. Their cultures were
influenced by humanity to mimic Earth’s
civilization.

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>>9145848
>humanity lives long enough to become gods
>created star system and bioengineered anthros
Fucking COOL

>>9145848
I can maybe see the potential for a little edit here and there, but I like it!

A spindle-shaped artificial star? That's a pretty neat mental image...

>>9145848

>Skipping ahead some

These planets are Eo, Logo, and Pao.
Each one different for any number of
reasons. Eo is a planet of ethics and is
much like our modern day. People have
internet, guns, cellphones, and like to
complain about that. Logo is a more
advanced civilization with more refined
technology taking a larger role in their
regular lives, and Pao is primitive world
devoid of fancy things like plumbing or
machines. Humans too dwell in these
worlds, meddling as they see fit each for
their own reason.

Uplifts

Creatures made from earth animal
and human DNA. Enhanced so as to be
perfect in their function. Enhanced with
weapons from animal DNA but the mental
strength and acuity of man.
Uplifts live and die as you would
think normal life should be. They are born,
they grow up, they marry, then they die.
They have spread through the system
exploring and growing, finding and being
found, always trying to improve. This is
terrible for some. No direction, nothing to
fight back against that is truly unknown.
Humans
Humanity is ancient. Post human.
Long ago all members of this species gave
themselves to technological immortality
and they have lived since then. They hop
from body to body, they learn by the library
and gorge knowledge when they are
lacking, they guide the stars and fates of the
furries. The average human is a battleship
of weapons and tools cast in chemistry
made flesh.

>>9145965
>>9145946
>>9145894

(Thanks! I'm in the editing phase now so I'm kinda posting the paragraphs that don't make me embarassed.)

The crowning achievement of
humanity is the uplifts. Creatures they view
as the summation of everything from Earth
mixed with the average unaltered human.
They view these furry creatures as a bonsai
tree, perfectly groomed with the utmost
care and set into the wind to find their
course, their flying bonsai tree people. But
the thing that humans covet, the thing that
they will say is what makes a creature a
man and unique in the universe, is a
phenomina they call “The Gift.”

Pao
Pao is a primitive world based on
the concept of love resolves all conflicts and
problems. Someone is insane? Show mercy
and make sure they person doesn’t harm
himself and others. Bandits? They clearly
want something so it’s better to give to
their need and encourage they stop
banditry, better than to build a fence and
provoke them into a more severe response
or, worse still, the fence would deter people
needing help from approaching! The
cornerstone for most of the planet’s culture
is kindness and mercy as a means of
prevention of conflict.
The climate of Pao was designed to
mimic Earth prior to the ice age. Most of
the planet is tropical save for the parts that
ocean and the parts that are scorching
deserts. Most of the planet is jungle, forest,
desert, or swamp. Although this means
that there is plenty of plant and animal life
it also means that establishing footholds for
civilization is difficult, further, mineral veins
are hidden particularly deep which hampers
building industry on the planet to the point
of surrender. The humans were not subtle
in declaring Pao a low technology planet.

>>9145965
I'm imagining the humans as not even looking remotely human any more... or maybe some of them do, just out of pride, except probably with godtech add-ons visible everywhere...

>>9146068
Two planets and a gas giant, but they all have life. Is the life for the gas giant on a moon?

>>9146068

In the book is a place called Den Point. A tester hatched that one, it's good but I need to rewrite.

Eo
Eo is a world where the furries have
been guided into something equivalent of
the 21th century. In their hubris the space-
humans made sure that they’re culture was
pushed so you have things like guns,
resource wars, internet, popular social
media, and ever advancing sciences.
Conflict and intrigue is rife as furries of this
world participate in the race called life.
Eo is broken up into city states, each
with it’s own government and each on sort
of friendly terms with eachother. There are
many smaller cities that dot the planet but
they are associated and ape their nearest
capital. The states see themselves as
independent groups rather than a single
collective. That said each city state
practices a little different.
The cities of Eo run a spectrum of
ideals, practices, and government types.
Some are good with the best of intentions
and others are very bad with nefarious
intentions. Often extremes tend to
resemble each other. Here are five:

>>9146177

I'll skip to that part. Basically there is a big space station on the gas giant. You watch red dwarf? Well, in the show the drop lines about it's size like how taking stairs through the ship takes weeks or how you can have a spelunking trip in parts of it's engine. That kind of big.

Logos
To call Logos a space station is a
gross simplification. It is indeed a structure
hanging in low orbit of the gas giant Thor
but colossal in size and its functions it is
easily compared to a continent that is
very, very high off the ground. The massive
structure is a crisscross of metal aisles and
in the squares is dense aerogel covering the
gap with its transparent polymer like a
bubble in a blowstick. Logos is populated
with furries that have grown accustomed to
technology and use it on a level that it is a
basic necessity. There is sectors for
agriculture, manufacturing, commerce,
residence, and some things that even the
populace does not know or has ever been
explored in the station.
The people of Logos believe that
they are the first race. That after Logos was
created the planets they live around
followed after them. This has foster a great sense of superiority to people of Pao or Eo. Logons
are to be smarter, faster, stronger, but the
most important is smarter. There are
plenty of dung shovellers (See A1:
Agriculture) and toilet scrubbers but those
waste specialists are to be considered
mental goliaths compared to the complete
morons from the planets! One of the
differences between A Logo-head and
normal people is that people from Logo
have a special gene to use their technology
called a LID, a genetic augementation that acts as a universal pass for their technology.

>>9146335

I'll admit I ripped off alot of movie about this bit.

Government of Logos: Myths and
Legends
The government of Logos is a highly
guarded secret from the colonies. All laws
and edicts come from an Individual known
as “Nous.” In truth Nous isn’t an individual
in any sense of the word. Its an Ultra Mind,
a fabled mass of circuitry and synthetic
tissue. Stranger still, when the people of
Logos sleeps their thoughts and emotions
are recorded via their comfortable and
ergonomic sleeping tubes and this mental
data is integrated Nous which it interprets
and absorbs. Thus, Nous is a mental
collective which makes the Logos
government essentially an unconscious
democracy. The Ultra Mind is actually
housed on an unmarked tram that moves
through the station regularly or when
situations require. Below the bloated
pulsating leader are supervisors with
jurisdictions extending from a single block
up to a whole sector. Only Nous has
authority over more than one sector at a
time.
The Ultramind and the technology
to feed is a gift from the humans and was
already in place before uplifts appeared on
the station. It’s based off an ancient human
technology called Layered Neural Mesh
Recording.

And then I go on about Thought Crime being a literal thing on the station. NMR is a thing from another RPG I was developing.

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>>9146418

And here is the chapter about SPAAAACE which I like


Space is the big black. There are things floating in the void that even the space man gods have not encountered. Among the many things in the great unknown are exoplanets, asteroid belts, and even strange lifeforms. These things are called “Exos” because they come from outside the solar system.
Fleets of Eo
The spaceships made from Eo are usually privatized to various big corporations interested in space ventures. Typically mining. The conundrum of Eo is that their space programs and technology is woefully below Logos but far in advanced of the planet itself. The heart of the matter is that Eo is in a space race with Logos and drives to keep up. Thus Eo ships are bulking engines, devices and machinery hanging free as the crate hurtles through space leaving a stream of flaming isotope. Eo ships use Helium Isotopes for fuel and don’t have artificial gravity. Larger ships have rotational sections but that is considered a luxury. It is through interactions with Logos that Eo space programs are as advanced as they are essentially making their ships comparable to being right in the fundamental principles but with a primitive and rough execution.

>>9146504

Exo planets are basically space dungeons. Right now the test group is in a campaign in a space castle.

Exoplanets:
Exoplanets are planetoids that are not in the gravity of the system’s star, Tyranis. They are also called orphan planets. Relatively small these planets sport harsh environments and are smaller than a moon. These cosmic wanderers are often barren save for millennia old patches of ice and the usual deposits of space rock… If only that was always the case.
Exoplanets are barren but they are also as lawless as you can get. With plenty of raw materials and cosmic radiation around you can do anything if you have the means. Set up a secretly base for your space ships, carve it out and make an easy space habitat, even chain it up and haul it to crash into that place you really, really hate!
Humans themselves have tried this save for that last part. Among the endless rocks you can find a secret biological facility or communications relay. Beware! For these places are never abandoned! Among the void in the system dwells the Parasites and the Castoffs!

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>>9146504
Is it possible in this scenario to have spies or other people trying to steal Logos' technological secrets to advance Eo's own tech? That spot feels like it'd be rich in possibility and things like that are common even in today's society and even during our own space race for that matter.

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>>9139584
>>9139989
>Start a race war... That's a paddlin'

>>9145690
Kek. She just got hit in the head from a ball peen hammer, so her sudden cowardice could be brain damage

>>9145583
>>9145848
>>9145965
>>9146068
>>9146198
>>9146335
>>9146418
Thanks for the lore dump

>>9146504
>>9146521
This does sound cool as fuck.

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>>9146521

And that's the basics of the settings: Space God humans, make furries, three planets, and space. I should post about >>9145761>>9145690 parasites:

Parasites
Parasites are slug creatures. They graph themselves to people or animals and subsume the host’s tissue right to the bone. Their behavior is more symbiotic: They tap your blood, oxygen, and nutrients and in return they allow you to use the natural weapons they have. Parasites are found on Exoplanets and gathered for their powers. Although a space slug inset into your flesh leaves a sickly red patch of alien skin they can give many benefits like accelerated healing, improved physical ability, or a superpower or two.
Parasites can give an array of abilities like a deployable claw, regeneration, venom, fire, wings, additional senses, to name a few. These creatures are incredibly expensive costing tens of thousands of dollars at the lowest but does come with the advantage of no real surgery, the parasite takes care of that, and no maintenance, the parasite also takes care of that.
As near as can be determined the Parasites are artificial, or rather, likely made by the humans just as the Uplifts are. There are no clear answers but some theories say that they were intended to be benefit uplift biology in the early stages of Uplift creation while others think they are merely a genetic test and Uplifts were created from those trials.

>>9146579
>weaboo
>not wolfaboo
Almost perfect.

>>9146616
>wolfaboo
Damn it so close.

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>>9146545

Actually that is a really cool idea. In parts of the book I type about a Eo and Logos in a space race and how Logos obviously always wants to stay on top.

That's kind of thing in RPGs: You basically describe a setting and let the reader make up the adventure. You don't really want to guide them step by step and control the reader, but you want to stir the brain pot so their adventure bubbles come to the top. It's like saying, "Here's this big glass dome... Sure hope no one comes along and breaks it, that would be a long and involving series of events!"

There is more lore in the book, you guys can read it by going to >>9145583 and checking out the handouts and topics.

Peace out.

>>9146335
>dense aerogel
Thick, perhaps? I want to say *not* being dense is the entire point of Aerogel...

Interesting, so Logo-head tech is genetically DRM'd on a species-wide scale...

>>9146418
I feel like there's a lot of potential for plotlines based on attempts to steal/assassinate the Ultramind, or give it/cure it of a virus, or even entire campaigns based around searching for ancient tech to fix it when it's gone wrong.

>>9146504
>>9146521
If this is the last healthy solar system left, could there could be fleets of homeless invaders waiting just outside the system to try and nab "a place in the sun", all mainly held back by the humans?

>>9146610
It almost sounds like the humans left them out there to encourage the Uplifts to explore...

>>9146418
I can see that the purpose of these very different envoirments is so players can have as much liberty as possible with the setting; you can easily have the Wild West as the backgound or Medieval Europe, all within the same world! The only thing that bothers me is there being mystery about human projects considering they walk among them. Couldn't they just, for example, ask them directly about the origin of the Parasites?

Also, if humanity is so proud and made things based on their old image, why isn't everything based after more iconic ideas? Names of places based on old cities and countries even if they don't match correctly or a solar system more similar to our own simply as homage, that's the kind of things I'd expect from that background.

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>>9146812
Thanks for swinging by, dude! I'll be orbiting that R20 group (and might contribute art too? I like to draw!)

>>9146579
That's true!

Liking your wolf, true champion of awoos

>>9146828

I'm stealing these for my campaign.

>>9146839

I'll have to double check because I really thought I stated that Humans are just observing the Uplifts or sitting their fantastic space castles. That is actually another point, in the species options there are "Genetic Humans" who are uplifts that hit the right genes and have every possible human trait, so they look like a normal modern human. Basically these are the guys that luck out and are like those guys born looking like Jesus or Elvis.

But the cities are actually based on old city names, most of them. Anderfaust being old stockholm, Hercul being just Hercules, California, and Seborga being a city in Italy that I thought was funny...

I probably should post that bit, huh?

>>9147103
>That is actually another point, in the species options there are "Genetic Humans" who are uplifts that hit the right genes and have every possible human trait, so they look like a normal modern human. Basically these are the guys that luck out and are like those guys born looking like Jesus or Elvis.
I think I see where that came from.

Hey, maybe the other Uplifts are a little jealous and call them "Normies" or something to hide it...

>>9147103

If you ever swung by a Swat Kats thread and saw them talking about the Deepest Lore and all that stuff? Some of that was me. Ripped it off for this stuff.

Anderfaust: City of true freedom.
Anderfaust is one of the older cities. Repeated civil wars in its history has forged a strong independent spirit in its people as well as knocked down the city several times over to be remade again and again, better and better. A person’s freedom is considered sacred and kidnapping, extortion, or slavery is punished more severely than even murder. The people of this state take public participation very seriously.
The most unique quirk of Anderfaust is a political system based around the citizenry being able to vote on anything at any time. Using mobile phone technology or worn and busted public kiosks citzens can vote on referendums, elections, passing laws, etc. and can do it at any time of day. This extends to the public as well, where people asking for public grants can be voted on. The saying in Anderfaust is, “The wheel grinds so slowly, but nothing can stop it!”
The city usually endures a harsh winter and thus the bulk of the population are bears, canines, cats, and other mammals that can handle the cold.
Primary Language: German
Hercul
Hercul is a city of Pride. They believe in the rights of the individual and freedom like Anderfaust but give power to democratically elected officials. When these officials become corrupt there is a great deal of strife in removing the festering stinger in their system, usually leading to riots or gang wars. Typical Ericans pride themselves on taking the hard road. and will do what they think is right even if the cost is higher.
Primary Language: English

>>9147165
>>9147161

That sounds tsundare as hell, that's awesome!

Seborga
Seborga is a city of regality and ponce. A monarchy family rules over this seaside city with the cooperation of a parliament system. Sealife is a big part of the culture with half the city being built over the water in a series of buoys and pinons. This city is often treated as a mediator and a neutral ground for other cities. Seborga specializes in ornate parties and giant festivals which can be heard everynight.
Primary Language: French

(Yeah taking names for this next city, what do you guys think would be a good name for a city plagued by snow and ice? Gnome? Ottowa?)
Cold
Cold is a barren socialist city built on top of a giant glacier in the most frozen region of the planet. Resources are scarce and have always been that way. People from Cold believe firmly in sharing before helping themselves.
Primary Language: Russian
Lei-Kunn
Lei-Kunn is a city-state that declared itself isolated from anyone or anything about fifty years ago. Ruled unquestionably by an enigmatic doctor, Lei-Kunn is the poster boy of tyrannical personality cult based government. (Yeah yeah, I needed at least one totalitarian dick-tatership)

To be truthful on the city-state thing, the lore is thin. I came up that every city has a sacred human weapon, like each one has a sort of 'Excalibur' to help define the city. What do you guys think of that?

>>9147261
Armed peace? If they're truly like us, there must a cold war between the most powerful goverments trying to steal each other's relic. There should be something that seriously convinces them against it, like a very known tale of two or three cities that wiped each other out -just- by trying.

>>9147344
*wiped themselves out, I meant.

>>9147261
>Yeah taking names for this next city, what do you guys think would be a good name for a city plagued by snow and ice? Gnome? Ottowa?
Vostok?

>>9147261
>To be truthful on the city-state thing, the lore is thin. I came up that every city has a sacred human weapon, like each one has a sort of 'Excalibur' to help define the city. What do you guys think of that?
What if each sacred human weapon, though individually powerful, is actually a component to something greater that the humans gifted to them, like some sort of planetary defense system or even something completely non-military like an advanced databank, or something? Maybe nobody really even knows what it is, except that it's something they can only access if they ever manage to unify?

Now the guy who was praising the start of the arc for being anti-fat-shaming has joined in the GoComics complaint chorus.

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>>9148816
>good to remember that when Hoss “assaulted” a wolf in the first place, it was to protect a pig who lost an eye

Blatant misinformation about what happened here but can't at all dispute it on GoComics. Pig didn't lose her eye until Wolf threw the garbage can through Heather's window and glass got in it. The assault happened first then the incidental mutilation.

"Protecting" the pig from mean hurtful insinuations and words at that, lol.

>>9148981
Well, we've known for ages that the GoComics crowd have more trouble keeping the plot straight than we do...

I actually think that might be a mis-phrasing, though. I read it as "it was to protect a pig [comma] who [then] lost an eye".

>>9149086
Really weird way to construct a sentence but that does make more sense.

>>9150390
Man, that arc at that point was a hell of a ride. Legitimately spooky and fun at the same time.

Does anyone have that comic where monsterfied Lyn comforts Holly by promising its only motion blur? That was some funny shit.

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>>9150713

>>9150758
Kek, thanks!

I know I give Aaron a lot of flack but there were some good things about that arc. It gave us that cool scene where the cook is fighting that Eatbeast, Buddibombs, and a stupid meme about transformation.

>>9150851
>I know I give Aaron a lot of flack but there were some good things about that arc.
We all do, lately, and it's not undeserved, but yes, it had it's charms here and there.

>>9150851
>It gave us that cool scene where the cook is fighting that Eatbeast, Buddibombs, and a stupid meme about transformation.
And the Cool Cops, can't forget the Cool Cops.

>>9150851
The fatal flaw of that chapter is that it was about Holly but she didn't participate at all despite her character being at a critical moment right at the begining. Hell, all of the characters were poorly used: Wally barely thinks about Holly or even cares in the end, Kirbee goes from airhead to perfect woman that can do no wrong, Chic turns into a prop, then we have Marx somehow playing a worse role than deus ex machina..

Would the arc have ended better if it was revealed that drop we saw at the very start of the flashback was actually the drop inside the ship and Holly had actually fallen inside and died with the Dittos inside showing her final thoughts like some macabre theater play?

I've been thinking of how to make the transitions inside the arc as unobtrusive as possible and towards the end of the 'memory' where is all breaks down into horror-Ditto shit could just be the aftereffect of the memories fading out.

I know there are some issues with that too though. 'Holly was dead the whole time' would be depressing as fuck but at the same time it does give Kirbee back her purpose of being the thing keeping Wally from shutting off.

>>9151791
>keeping Wally from shutting off
He kinda just shrug it off in the end, though. And even before that it seemed that he stopped seeing Holly as someone he loved and more as someone he simply had to save.

>>9151791
Opinion: It would have been better if it had ended just after Lyn died and Doc had turned up, and Holly just "stopped the projector", walked out, and started talking to Wally in a calm, cleansed, "Well, now you've seen it all. That's who I was. I won't blame you if you think the worst of me..." sort of way

Heck, the arc would have worked much better if it had been about temptations - Kirbee for Wally and the virtual world of the ship for Holly.

Have them start talking (because that's how you treat a problem like Holly's, and Holly deciding to show that to Wally is the first and hardest step), then Wally could have taken stock of what he'd been doing with Kirbee, backed away, and helped Holly by reminding her of the moment with the paper boat.

That paper boat represented his past, and she sent it sailing away, and he feels all the better for it... this boat represents her past, and she needs to let it go, too - will she let him help her do that, the way she did for him?

Close the arc on the beautiful symmetry as she ponders her answer, with time to spare for Christmas in Endtown.

>>9151935
Holly shit, this! It works perfectly.

>>9151861
Just spitballing; for a few moments there after everyone escaped but it wasn't revealed Holly was fake just yet. After all the hell he went through to get to Holly I believed as a reader that his feelings for her superceded Kirbee.

It felt like in that moment he did make his choice of Holly over Kirbee, which was rendered moot by her not being real and peaceing out.

>>9151935
>the paper boat vs the ship
Damn that's some good stuff there.

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Do you have any hope for old characters appearing?

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>>9153810
I was hoping Linda and the diner girls would show up but the only ones that have a chance to show up are either Maude or Cooper, but I still don't think they will.
At least we got Doc and the nurse.

Desu, it's like it was some completely different place, populated mostly by pigs and wolves.

>>9154539
It may as well be, considering we didn't see any wolves before this chapter.

>>9159036
I bet old helmets that happen to cleanly fit around muzzles go for a premium in the post-apocalypse.

I wish Aaron would apply some copyleft to the world of Endtown. It'd be a shame if (hypothetically) it went down with the comic.

>>9160984

The joke is that I think someone has said that there's not really much world beyond Endtown and everything detailed is made up on spot and is subjected to changes.

I think RPGAnon or Suule said how much of stuff they had to make up during the sessions because there wasn't any info given by Aaron or that Topsiders were so OP later on it was a near-impossible encounters for PC (Zero fields and impenetrable suits).

>>9153810
Jackrabbit, Mallard, Linda, Al/Gustine, Maude, Petey, all in that order. I'm already aggravated we haven't seen Jacob to get a proper rundown of what's been happening in Endtown since Holly and Wally left, especially when it was such a pressure cooker building for the election that we could see post Milk Trial.

I'd like to know if there was an exodus of Humanity-aligned citizens at least, or if mutants like Cooper had already been driven out.

>>9160984
I feel that if the fanbase did tank completely, he'd just reboot the comic as Endtown 3.0, with certain things changed up again and a loose continuity with 1.0 (Al and Gustine) and 2.0 (Holly and Wally).

>>9161363
>I'd like to know if there was an exodus of Humanity-aligned citizens at least, or if mutants like Cooper had already been driven out.
Now I want to see an arc where Al, Gustine, Cooper and other unwanted mutants wander the wastes using dittos navigate the wastes in search of a new settlement with the help of Petey.

>>9162144
Don't forget Petey's friend. With two superpowered cyborgs for bodyguards and the dittos, they have a pretty good chance.

>>9162320
I've never seen that one before. Is it new?

>>9162373
Yeah, I just drew it.

>>9162387
You've improved

>>9162440
Thanks!

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We sharing OC content? I made a Tomb Raider expy recently.

>>9163420
I like it.

>>9163420
Neat.

>>9162320
>>9163420
These are damn cool.

Just makes me wish there was still an Endtown RPG...

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>>9163472
>>9163479
Thanks! It's been a while since I've last drawn regularly so I'm still a bit rusty on fullbody. Need to get back into the swing of things with gesture for poses.

Faceshots are easy since they just need expressions and snarky dialogue.

>>9163420
This is good.

>>9162320
>>9162373
If I wasn't a dumbass I would have seen the date in the top right.

>>9163495
>>9163541
I don't see why we can't make OC content even if the RPG is buried now. Never stopped other fandoms I've been in from making new content and Aaron's left a big wonderful sandbox (quite literally) to play in.

>>9163593
Oh, wasn't saying people couldn't. It just makes me sad about the RPG all over again.

>>9163635
Was it left in a playable state when development ended?

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>>9163593
I might as well make one of these again.

Congratulations! You drew the short straw. You’ve been volunteered for foraging duties top side for your colony (https://www.randomlists.com/random-animals set the quantity to 1 and hit refresh). Accompanying you are 2-4 unfortunate souls who were volunteered with you ( http://www.seventhsanctum.com/generate.php?Genname=anthro Set category to general and amount to 2-4). You are all sent topside with backpacks, rations for 3 days, a flashlight, and a blaster. How long does your party survive?

>The intuitive, friendly, inexperienced male anthropomorphic Gazelle from nowhere.
Kind of suck that he's inexperienced but a gazelle might be useful. Hopefully he was a part of the track team before mutating.

>The educated male anthropomorphic black-scaled Snake hiding a dark secret. He has a boyish build. His wardrobe is attractive.
>That's a nice tube you're wearing Mr. Snake.
But really he seems pretty useful. If you don't have arms you might as well be smart. He was probably a topsider before this seeing he has a dark secret.

>The unwise, diabolical, broken-hearted female anthropomorphic Emu with unexpected depths. She has a leggy build.
She's the only downside to this party but, hell,
at least she'll have an interesting story, nice gams, and she does bonus damage to Australians.

Overall, we'll probabaly wander around for about 3 days, find a few can of beans and be able to make it back without too much indecent.

>>9164090
I believe it was, more or less.

>>9164090
>>9164151
It was pretty playable. I hope I'm not messing up anything with RPGanon's new RPG if post a link.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9zUbKbVjWUBcDFKMjVqZEFZMlU/view

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>>9164117
>she does bonus damage to Australians
sensible_chuckle.gif

As for me...
>mustang
No more selfsteem issues.
>The educated, tough, educated male anthropomorphic Mole. He has a boyish build.
He's a young man who went to military school and is tired of being holed up in Endtown, doing nothing to help. Sneaked outside to go with me and..
>The dispirited, selfless female anthropomorphic Hedgehog. Her wardrobe is tight-fitting.
Sable Able. Cute.

I'll die so they can return safely with some info about Topside activity and a few cans of beans.

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>>9164117

I am a Guanaco apparently.

Partners:
>The clueless, promiscuous female anthropomorphic Loon.
>The illogical, playful male anthropomorphic Mudskipper. He has a masculine build.

So a moron slutty bird and a funloving but crazy amphibian. Wew, I'm gonna die!

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And last art for tonight, I might draw other parties tomorrow if there isn't a good crit subject.

>>9164637
>>9164670
Really enjoying your stuff. That Mallard is top notch, especially.

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Happy Cinco de Mayo.

>>9172928
I still remember when we figured out she was latina. Good times.

>>9173237
Huh.

I never knew.

>>9175263
>Allie Alvarez
>eats nothing but beans
>violent drunk that smokes
>woman tough as nails
>dies by gunshot in a riot

>>9175290
Yes.

"Allie" is probably short for Alejandra. If life has tought me anything is that women with that name are a pain in the ass, Wally dodged a bullet there.

Also, didn't Aaron at one point say Allie was too old for Wally only to mention later that Holly is 10 years older than Wally too? He might not like it but he really needs an editor.

Update's up.

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>>9177208

Smartest wolf in town.

>>9177252

>>>/co/92116199

>>9177252
Good way of dodging the "How's he gonna hurt her with that little stick?" question.

Didn't someone call the laundry being burned down?

>>9177346
why did yyou link /trash?

>>9177346
>Putting a link to the trash thread in the OP
No no no no no... posts with that get deleted, haven't you noticed?

>>9177252
>They'll never find him. The suspect pool is too large.
That reminds me of Invisible Man, a 1952 novel by Ralph Ellison.

>>9177421
>>9177433
Sorry, I thought it would help to keep the conversation going on here.

>>9177470
posting the comic here and talking about it keeps the conversation going here, ignore /co/

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>>9177252
We know. All he has to do is give Dottie some cock and knot her. And then she'll write a story saying a pig was spotted at the scene who must have done it.
After that she gets rewarded even more. She may get fired, but she can make a living setting up wolf orgies and gobbling semen for nutrients.
Perfect plan, wolves are right.

>>>/co/92116575

>>9177654
>Taunting the janitor in the OP
Well, this is going to be interesting.

On another note... the Flask sequence suggests everything in Endtown is very old. I wonder how much of it is made of ancient wood?

>>9177798
They didn't build it with wood. The furrypocalypse happened after they made smart, cute, and fuckable talking bombs.

>>9177798
We should just do like the wolves, if they treat us like a problem we might as well be. Maybe Hiro will get off his ass then.

>>9177863
While I'll agree that the laundry, at least, looks like it's mostly brick (which means it must be mostly clothes that are burning), the bit with Flask suggests Endtown itself was created some time in a previous century, going by the mode of dress.

It seems like everything was ready and waiting before the apocalypse, probably quite a while before I'm guessing.

>>9177252
I wonder if we're about to meet the Endtown Fire Brigade? I don't think we've seen anything like that yet...

inb4: the fire summons I and this chapter stops being boring

>>9178092
No. I kills off the best characters.
He's not taking horse OR pig pussy away from us this time, not like he took precious Jim.

>>9177252
What exactly would be in big jugs marked with a "flammable" symbol, in a laundry? Is bleach flammable?

>>9178163
He can take Potia for all I care.

>>9178370
She hasn't even been sexualized yet.
Fug off i.

>>9178427
Come on, she is one of the most sexually active characters in the comic.

>>9178476
We haven't seen the pusspuss yet.
Fug off i.

>>9178535
It is *I* for you, mortal.

>>9178592
fug off y
pig pusspuss is safe
she has accepted the pork within her

>>9177252
Pants and shirt aren't much to go on, but is that Arsonwolf fleeing in the fourth panel?

>>9177252
I guess we'll soon find out if that was Endtown's only laundromat.

Not much to talk about, is there?

Where do you people think Linda ended up?

>>9179773
He can run pretty fast if that's true.

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>>9180648
The I want her to become the sous chef under Maurice

>>9180924
Well, you can't say she wouldn't have experience cooking with mutant byproducts.

The normalisation of that must be addressed sooner or later, probably via Maurice's diner.

However, going back to that section of the setting is inevitably going to bring up curiosity as to how everyone there reacted to Holly's disappearance (remember, she was popular...), how they're coping now without their head waitress and what they think happened to her, especially since Aaron says adults more or less ignored Marx's story. I don't know if Aaron is going to want to deal with that, especially while he's juggling so many other plot threads.

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>>9172928
>>9175290
>Allie, what's the history of Cinco de Mayo?

>>9181176
Nice! Happy Cinco de Mayo!

>>9181087
>the narrative touching anything like interesting post-Milk Trial consequences of Endtown
>referencing Holly ever again despite her popularity in-canon
I can't even be optimistic about this anymore.

>>9181176
"It's shut up and pass me the tequila."

Thanks for being a productive member of society in this holiday.

>>9181176
Beautiful, PA.

>>9181227
There's a big Holly-shaped hole in the world, and it'll be interesting to see if Aaron even addresses it.

As for the Milk Trial... I guess this thing with the wolf pack kind of counts? It's just that we've jumped straight into an extreme, though, without even seeing the acceptance of mutant food products or animal behaviours, or anything.

>>9181620
Before this chapter there wasn't a food shortage, just a lack of variety. With the milk and eggs and all the people that died in the shooting and political riots, there shouldn't be a food shortage now so neither the wolves or anybody else has a good reason to eat anyone or get rid of the pigs. If there is truly a food shortage as the wolf bitch said, it's awfully convenient.

>There's a big Holly-shaped hole in the world, and it'll be interesting to see if Aaron even addresses it
Don't think so, the interlude with Doc and Marx is basicaly Aaron asking people to stop caring about Holly because he obviously doesn't anymore.

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>>9182151
>Before this chapter there wasn't a food shortage
But there was. Scavengable food was becoming scarce, but then it became impossible to even go topside.

>Don't think so, the interlude with Doc and Marx is basicaly Aaron asking people to stop caring about Holly because he obviously doesn't anymore.
It would be interesting to see how Holly's absence affected Endtown, but your right, Aaron wants us to stop caring about Holly.

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>>9178316
Probably a dry cleaning agent but that brings up a slew of different questions, really.

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>tfw when wanted to draw something Endtown today but can't stop watching Commander Clark

>>9182151
>With the milk and eggs and all the people that died in the shooting and political riots, there shouldn't be a food shortage now so neither the wolves or anybody else has a good reason to eat anyone or get rid of the pigs. If there is truly a food shortage as the wolf bitch said, it's awfully convenient.
I don't think that many people died in the riots, really. Last I saw the official count for Endtown's population was 7000. How many died? Were we given a number?

Add to that, the eggs and milk and so on are technically speaking inefficiently recycled beans - just the addition of variety, as you say. The energy and matter to make them still has to come into the "system" from canned beans scavenged from the Great Waste.

I could actually see there being fewer and fewer beans to go around, but that just makes the ability of the pigs to overeat bizarre - either there's thefts and secret food deliveries that we haven't seen/heard about, or someone in the government is involved (but that would still need secret food deliveries). The fact that there's a food shortage and nobody, not even Doc, has remarked upon the anomalous nature of the porcine access to excess food feels like either an oversight or an inconvenient plot hole that Aaron is intentionally skirting around.

>>9182361
There was always milk and eggs being produced, just going to waste. They got more to eat now, even if only what they were wasting.

>>9182419
Correct, so they are stretching their food supplies further than they were. But there's also not going to be as many eggs or as much milk, I'm sure, if the base materials/energy source to produce them (beans) are in short supply and everyone's going a bit hungry. I wonder if cows and chickens are given food priority, to keep "variety" up?

All in all, though, they really need to get those hydroponics working.

(In before the only thing they can grow in there to begin with is... beans.)

>>9182361
Egg and milk production is in the same zone as Unity in the idea of caloric recycling. The same energy that went into producing also goes into what comes out, which means that the colony is operating on a dead-end as far as nutrition goes. It's good for variety but there's nothing adding itself to the diminishing food cycle, which a combination of Allie's report and the end of the Flask arc shows as being even more limited than before. Even with Dittos the scavenging spots are nearly stripped of everything to eat, and that's assuming scavenging spots aren't Topsider traps at this point (which begs the question of why wouldn't they be).

The food shortage situation is the most bizarre to me. We have one character who claims it but we have no verification or even dismissal that what she claimed is true. It's pivotal in determining the state of Endtown at a basic level of survival but we've been left in relative radio silence about it. It's probably the one thing I want to know the MOST about because my perception of the public and the current societal issues in Endtown hinges on the food situation.

>>9182538
>The same energy that went into producing also goes into what comes out
Right, that's what I was indicating - byproducts just shift energy around the system a bit before it leaves it, and require the producer to take a greater share. And it's even less energy that comes out than went in, in fact, because it's not a 100% efficient process, so you're even operating with diminishing returns *there*.

>The food shortage situation is the most bizarre to me. We have one character who claims it but we have no verification or even dismissal that what she claimed is true. It's pivotal in determining the state of Endtown at a basic level of survival but we've been left in relative radio silence about it. It's probably the one thing I want to know the MOST about because my perception of the public and the current societal issues in Endtown hinges on the food situation.
It's definitely very strange that it hasn't been addressed. It's Schroedinger's social crisis and makes a lot of the following plot ambiguous and very hard to get invested in. We're seriously in need of some proper basic facts about Endtown's current situation, facts the characters seem to know intimately but to which we as readers have been given insufficient exposure.

>>9182341
I bet the Endtowners are glad fleas seem to be extinct - apart from anything else, I'm sure laundries would be a natural transfer point.

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>>9164117
wew, did another group pic

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>>9164117
Because I've been drinking tequila and Tecate I think this means that I mutate into a hybrid. Lucky me.

>The distant, antisocial, experienced male anthropomorphic Bat.
Annoying, but extremely useful.

>The obedient, seasoned male anthropomorphic green-feathered Bird. He has an angular build. His wardrobe is unconventional.
This guy seems like the most valuable person in our party. He knows what he's doing and he's willing to follow orders.

>The intelligent, promiscuous female anthropomorphic Crow who suffers from a chronic medical condition. She has a feminine build. Her wardrobe is dignified.
Her condition and her promiscuity may raise issues but I don't think it will get us killed.

The wastes are a hostile place but if we have two experienced members and everyone is reasonably intelligent, I think we'll be able to make 3 days and possibly make it back with a few beans.

>>9183292
>Her condition and her promiscuity may raise issues but I don't think it will get us killed.
Make them one issue: nymphomania.

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>>9183292
Drew a pic for it too.
>>9183593
Welp, hitting on a Topsider might just get us killed.

>>9183241
Nice, that snake has a very dapper wardrobe.

>>9182341
I think bleach has a corrosive warning sign on it. At least when it's not watered down.

>>9163420
>>9164637
>>9164670
Also these are fun.

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>>9164465
Last for tonight, will draw more later

>>9183756
>that voice bubble
kek

Never seen bleach bottles look like that before but I'll still take it I guess. Glad you're enjoying the stuff I'm pumping out, and thank you for your wonderful stuff too

>>9183756
I can't tell what she is doing other than scratching and only because of the text. Also I get the baby thing.. yikes. I bet he doesn't trust kangaroos.

>>9183924
Thank you.
I've seen the industrial stuff. But you're right there's no way he could have poured those out without getting fucked up in some way.
>>9184037
I couldn't think of a chronic medical disorder so I gave her an irritating rash.
>I bet he doesn't trust kangaroos.
That and emus. They have a +5 bonus against anything Australian.

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>>9184118
And forgot pic.

>>9184118
You could say she has an immune-system disorder, else that rash is just an accute condition.

>>9183824
Thanks. By the way, I thought that was a weird Charizard for a moment.

>>9184470
Looking up immune system disorders, I could have given her inflammatory bowel disease. Nothing goes together like promiscuity and IBD.

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>>9164117
>>9164465
>>9164637
>>9183292
Take the last number of your post and check pic related happens on your first day out and see if that changes the outcome of your party and roll gain on a d10 if your roll needs you to roll again.
My last digit is 7 so that means a small colony. I rolled a 2 so that means a hole in the ground colony and another roll means it consists of 7 people.
the inexperienced gazelle probably reveals that we have 3 days worth of rations each and we each trade one days ration for useless junk because we are out numbered by more than half and don't want to piss them off.

(for bonus depth here's what we traded a day's ration for http://www.springhole.net/writing_roleplaying_randomators/randomobjects.htm)

Beaver: A screwdriver, a pencil, and a butter knife.

Gazelle:A beaded bracelet, a sword, a washcloth, a feather duster, and a plush octopus.

Snake:A notepad, a hair pin, a lighter, and a lamp.

Emu:A rock, a novel, a microphone, and a matchbook.

Nothing much changes but we are jealous of the sword, entertain ourselves with the novel, and go hungry on the third day, but everything is pretty much the same.

>>9183241
Awesome drawing! Thank you.

>>9180924

someone post porn of linda. I wanna see that koala pussy and those koala tits

>>9186223
My group encountered wild dittos. Neat. I'll give them two choices: a taste of good vibes or a taste of my blaster.

>>9188584
I know this is an old one but this is the first time I see it. Huh.

>>9186223
>>9164637
Let's see, small colony with my added personal rolls indicating it as a small homestead with about 19 people living there.

Traded items would be:

>Guanaco: A plush frog, a plush unicorn, a pair of knitting needles, and a hair clip.
I wish I could say I wouldn't pick this stuff but I totally would. The knitting needles and hair clip would be useful but the plushies would totally be just to make me feel better.

>Loon: A spoon, a bouquet of flowers, a pearl necklace, a pail, and a shopping bag.
She has better taste than I do but how the hell did she get the flowers? Did this homestead do the impossible and grow something after the apocalypse? I'll elect to believe yes they did.

>Mudskipper: A box of chalk, a tea pot, a box of baking soda, and a pair of rubber gloves.
Funloving moron trades food for stuff that includes a box of chalk. Sounds right.

We have no survival potential, I'll be honest here. At least we have stuff that can entertain us before we're hungry again. But the idea of a small homestead that can manage to grow something is a really nice idea out of this sad shitshow of a party.

>>9145583
>Lately though I heard he caught the big C.
Not full blown cancer, but some polyps, which would be normal for someone his age. He does have a peptic ulcer and some other gut troubles and has had to take time off.

>>9189729
That's odd, he was acting as though it were terminal on Twitter. Did he think it was, at one point?

>>9189799
Evidently, but after getting a checkup, he calmed down. He gave more details on the mailing list. Remember, he's in his 50's, so stuff like this looks more serious.

>>9183241
Is that snake wearing a suit?

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>>9164117
Kazen, here. I ended up with;
>Okapi
Huh, neat.
>The wise, obedient, world-weary female anthropomorphic Mink servant. Her wardrobe is impractical.
Useful and helpful, though I'd worry about her mental state over time. But the second...
>The intuitive, sadistic female anthropomorphic Chicken pedlar with uncanny abilities. She has a busty build. Her wardrobe is non-nonsense.
Now this one frankly both scares and fascinates me. She sounds like both a very interesting, and dangerous combination of traits. She'd easily con the mink and I to do whatever she wanted to start with. Who knows what ambitions could be stewing in that bird.

>>9190752

PORN PORN PORN! I WANNA SEE KOALA PUSSY

>>9192716
Why so desperate?

>>9190888
He acts and draws like a teenager, it's easy to forget.

>>9192600
The Mink sounds like an eastern wife. I want to see that busty hen, I love them pechugas.

>>9177252
Where the hell is Jacob in all of this?

>>9195106
He knows what everyone wants.

>>9200148
I was hoping we would see Heather getting spanked.

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>>9164117

Well, my first roll got me
>Bumble Bee

If Irving is representative of all insect mutants, I'm not going to be much help at all unless it's for scouting purposes. At least I'll consume less water and rations?

>The clueless female anthropomorphic Robin looking for love. Her wardrobe is elegant.
Not immediately useful, but if she can fly we have another scout.
>The confused, cooperative, world-weary male anthropomorphic gray-furred Bear coping with mental illness. He has a broad-shouldered build.
And a bear who's old enough to be suffering from mental illness, at least that's how I interpret it. He's willing to help the group at the very least, although I'm worried about what that mental illness might be: At best it's just slight memory problems, I don't even want to contemplate if it might be something that leads to Schizm Syndrome developing sooner.

Well. Two partners who aren't immediately useful or good leaders, and I can't even talk let alone guide them effectively. To put it shortly, we're fucked.

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>>9164117
> am fox so i guess i'm stealthy and shit
> my wadrobe is pretty bad, it's mostly comprised of a single hoodie, t-shirts, and jeans and a single pair of sneakers

> The serene, friendly female anthropomorphic Akita Inu. Her wardrobe is flattering.
> doesn't seem like a stacy

> The unheroic, tactless female anthropomorphic Bat. She has a slender build.
> we'd talk about our favorite vidya together if she can play vidya tho

i'm thinking we'd turn out alright, the bat may be a problem though

>>9186223
>>9202839
we discover an abandoned building

> me
> A cookie tin, a container of pudding, a pen, and a hand bag.
> i'll turn the tin can into a cute little candle if i ever find some wax, and i'll give the hand bag to the akita inu because i'm a nice dude

> akita inu
> A rope, a microphone, and a rubber stamp.
> the rope will be useful, ditch the microphone and the rubber stamp

> bat
> A bangle bracelet, a blowdryer, and a bar of soap.
> we can use the bar of soap
> she can wear the bangle bracelet, ditch the blowdryer

>>9186223
>>9202648

Encountered travelers, whilst rolling a 9.

On our first day out we meet some other scavengers, who the Bear in our group manages to get directions from of some promising ruins. Both the bear and robin in our group thank them for the directions, after which the bear immediately forgets them in a fit of forgetfulness.

>>9200951
Me too.

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>>9200951
>>9203799

>>9199580
What is going on in this

>>9204954
Tiny mouse dom is trying to get her kink on with the elephant, both are running into the stereotypical cartoon elephant fear of mice.

Wow, now the GoComics crew are even saying the comic is too depressing. That's new.

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>>9207797
When was the last time we legitimately had a 'characters doing something nice' that wasn't immediately overshadowed by some terrible thing going on in the background? I honestly can't think of anything aside the moment where Holly and Wally actually get together (after the mortal peril is gone, everyone is safe and ok) and where Linda makes the cake for the old man (which was just legitimately nice).

I'm not counting anything in the Ship because that had the undercurrent of bad things happening (Holly missing, mortal peril only briefly staved off by magic dittos) and Walt/Portia's relationship has been surrounded and defined by baggage, either with the wolf shit or with Walt moping over how he became mayor in the first place.

The comic's getting real dense on the violence and misery without giving the characters breathing time to let them feel like its possible they still want to LIVE in this world. It really does remind me of the same problems the original draft of Zootopia had: the world is too shitty and too hopeless for the characters to ever want to stay in it and it in turn is a downer to the people watching the character's plights.

>>9209096
This.

Endtown used to have its ups and downs, but lately it's just downs. I think the Wally/Kirbee and Walt/Portia romance stuff is maybe supposed to be "relief", but if so it obviously doesn't work for a lot of people.

The lack of contrast is depressing in and of itself.

>>9209131
Hamfisted romance isn't my idea of 'relief' either between dense sections of unpleasant things happening. Moments like Dottie seeing Topside for the first time since the bombs fell is more soothing and poignant, serving as development for her but also a pause between all the insanity that had been going on. More breathing room like that sprinkled through the comic would have served the mood better than the alternative, simple things like Kirbee and Chic bonding separately from Wally and Holly's drama, or Portia settling into comfortable life with Walt (cleaning his pigsty of a house even) would be a nice fleshing moment to show off character personalities and the little daily things that make life worth living in between the possessed hell raccoons and angry wolf mobs.

>>9209173
Agreed.

And besides all that, the comic needed some sort of breather between the relentless misery of the last arc and the angst and viciousness of this one. Would have been a good chance for some much-needed world-building, too.

Shit, maybe Aaron SHOULD have done a Christmas in Endtown mini-arc, even if that wasn't what he originally meant.

>>9210337
>Christmas in Endtown could have been used to set a tentative peace following the chaos of the Milk Trial and reestablished order.
>Holiday cheer and some brief exposition about how it's nice everything calmed down
>pig missing signs stapled up during the mini arc to lead into Wolf Arc

>>9209096
>>9209131
>>9209173
If Kirbee was handled better she could have been what the comic really needed. An airheaded optimist could have been a good juxtaposition for what was happening or realizing the world not a good place, but she ended up as a prop.

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>>9164117

So I'm a puma, and the companions are:

>The cunning, unremarkable, self-righteous female anthropomorphic Raven. She has an elegant build. Her wardrobe is mysterious.

>The illogical female anthropomorphic Gerbil.

>The clueless, inexperienced female anthropomorphic Antelope.

I'm thinking the raven and I start the deal out thinking that the other two randos are going to get us killed. Gerbil might actually come in handy, since well, nothing really makes sense at all, so a skewed perspective helps.

I figure things go quite badly, maybe just getting away from topsides, some injuries. The Gazelle nearly has a nervous breakdown when she finally pieces together that the only reason anyone would send her topside is because they either don't care about if she lives or dies or are actively hoping to get rid of her. Every one else gets protective after that.

At any rate, we just make it back, after a longer than expected harrowing nightmare and realize we brought back slightly less food than we took up.

The Gerbil and Gazelle never go topside again. The Raven and I volunteer again in the hopes that when the inevitably consequence of a bunch of starving animals together happens, we're not there for it.

>>9214541
I honestly don't think it would have worked anyway. Stuff like the inappropriate "YAY" moment did nothing to lighten the tone for me, they just made her feel out of touch with reality. I think she'd have been a stop-gap at best.

>>9217991
Al looks so god damn pissed. I guess I would be too if I were the most powerful being in Endtown and I got shit on constantly.

>>9218569
>I guess I would be too if I were the most powerful being in Endtown and I got shit on constantly.
Are you suggesting that Al and Marx are secretly one and the same?

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>>9218615
I think the ranking goes Al, Mallard, and then Marx.
Sure, Marx has his dimensionometer but that's about all he has. It doesn't even effect Mallard. Al on the other hand has fist fought topsiders and even torn open their suits, and fucks a rhino every night. The only thing to "kill" him was a blast described by Mallard as being hit by a fleet of rocket powered 18-wheelers, and his body was still very much intact.
If there were some sort of Battle Royal scenario in Endtown, my money would be on Al. Also did I mention that fucks a rhino.

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>>9218897
Whoops, wrong strip

>>9218926
Back when touching a Topsider wouldn't get your arms disintegrated...

Topsiders OP, pls nerf.

>>9218897
>>9218926
I know the comic evolved the Topsiders into being impossibly OP but if you do take the context of their established OP nature and apply it to the Sparkplug arc then holy shit Al is quite literally a demigod.

I'd be totally ok if it's Al who bullshits his way into being the guy that saves everyone instead of Marx. Marx is a smug ass, at least Al is a nice guy who'll sacrifice himself for others.

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>>9221183
>I'd be totally ok if it's Al who bullshits his way into being the guy that saves everyone instead of Marx.
With Marx's track record, he'd end up getting everyone killed. Al may be the only one who could save Endtown.

>>9221717
...Did Marx create I?

>>9221183
>>9221717
Well, I've more or less given up on Wally and Walt.

>>9221903
The main theory regarding that around here seems to be that Eye is the product of the original Albert universe collapsing around Ted the invisible floating eye thing. A bunch of angry souls smooshed around an entity that can see into people's hearts.

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>>9202648
New scavenge team drawing, for all your exploration needs!

>>9222645
Nicely done. I especially like the bear.

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>>9202839
And last team for tonight!

So, scene switch tomorrow (perhaps to Dottie learning of the riot?), or are we going to continue on and see Heather reacting to the loss of her laundry? Maybe a time skip to Dottie attempting to interview her again? I feel like we're almost certainly headed for a Dottie scene soon...

>>9226182
This has to be a scene switch here, the sight of the laundry on fire feels like a money shot and a good pivot spot.

Who we pivot to is the million dollar question. It could be Grout or Dottie for follow up, or we might get swapped into something entirely different with Walt and Portia.

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>>9223840
> the closest thing ill ever get to an actual 'fursona'

>>9226313
>It could be Grout or Dottie for follow up, or we might get swapped into something entirely different with Walt and Portia.
Story-wise, I have misgivings about both those options...

>>9226313
>Who we pivot to is the million dollar question.
A group of wolves being chased by a mob with pitchforks and torches all wearing dirty clothes.

>>9226929
I wonder how much of a problem shedding is, both in laundry terms and in general.

Huh, makes me thing... I bet there's new wool clothing on the market, now.

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>>9228045

we havent even reached the bump limit

Strip's late...

>>9214699
That was pretty entertaining to read. Do you write stories?

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Oh, hey. Whaddaya know. No shift, plus the Endtown Fire Department...

Is that a Dalmatian?

(Why don't they have a powered pump?)

>>9233515
>they're still beating the fuck out of wolves
All they have to do now is find reasonably healthy ones and grill them. After all, the ones busy auditioning for meatloaf cosplays are gonna be beat to shit.
The wolves really aren't planning this through. Marx is a genius.
When will Marx get caught and have his ass beat?

>>9233515
I'd ask if that was a bizarre sudden reappearance of Wally in the second panel, but Wally never tucks his shirt in, IIRC...

>>9233515
>that lizard
I guess Aaron couldn't help thinking about Sarah.

>Is that a Dalmatian?
It confirms that Endtown is racist.

>Why don't they have a powered pump?
Aaron likes retro-futuristic schizo-tech but yeah, that's just ridiculous.

>>9234347
>>Is that a Dalmatian?
>It confirms that Endtown is racist.
he was probably a firefighter and that's why his subconscious turned him into a dalmation

>>9234347
Actually, is it just me, or does that look like lizard *twins* on the roof?

>>9233515
>>>/co/92211969
Time for the same old grind.

>>9234379
Well, if there's one thing certain is that Aaron loves irony.

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>>9234401
The one with the glasses kinda looks like Trace to me.

>>9234447
why

>>9234472
That'd be interesting, especially since Trace there was drawn pre-Lizard design revision.

>>9234447
seriously is there a point to this? For us, just us to go over? Way to kill the conversation idiot

>>9222645
This is beautiful, man.

>>9234553
I don't think the /co/ thread doesn't really makes a difference. You can make the same posts here and there anyway. The conversation is slow simply because it is.

>>9235000
the conversation was alive here before you made split us and we sit over there hoping for people who don't exist to say something other than "yep that's an update, we'll wait for the next one to see what's happening"

>>9235029
>the conversation was alive here before
That's a lie and you know it.

>>9233515
This makes me wonder if they have a storehouse of raw materials for rebuilding. One would think that would be one of the first things whoever made the place would have planned for.

>>9235227
It'd be funny if the wolves got the wood for their signs from there, giving everyone another reason to be pissed at them.

>>9235321
Makes me wonder where they got all that nice clean cardboard for the placards from, too. Does Endtown have cardboard/paper recycling? There's certainly no trees for pulp.

It all makes me think: Wood, being organic and generally exposed even inside buildings, would be one of the rarest items in the waste, too, on account of most of it being disintegrated during the war. It'd probably be as valuable as food. I'll bet that passes down to paper and cardboard, too.

>>9235398
The Endtown Examiner is still able to be printed so there must be some sort of recycling system.

>>9235398
They have a newspaper so they must have a good supply. That or they do have matter-energy convertors that can only supply basic materials.

>>9222645
>>9223840
These continue to be great.

>>9233515
Of all the places, you'd think that Endtown would have some sort of universal sprinkler system.

>>9235444
>>9235515
The newspaper thing is a good point, probably continually recycled with fines for not returning the issue within a certain time frame. You'd expect diminishing returns there, though, wouldn't you? I think there's only so many times wood fibre can be recycled before it degrades?

As for the matter-energy convertors thing... I think the comic would have been more explicit about that. And if they were a thing, at the very least it'd put the existence of the food crisis in doubt - if they can do processed wood pulp, it's not unreasonable to expect they could do other, more edible plant matter.

>>9235660
Organic matter is very complex, convertors could probably only supply with wood substitutes.

>>9235654
>Of all the places, you'd think that Endtown would have some sort of universal sprinkler system.
Honestly, I would have expected either something like pinpoint sprinklers in the roof or a super-fast automated fire fighting system, since Mallard supposedly used to be in charge. Like, water cannons that pop up out of the middle of the street, or something.

>>9235936
Mallard is not in charge anymore, he only was because he was the boss of Flask and she was in charge of security. Without Flask he is just a consultant to the council, which is now Jacob.

Also, that's pretty excessive when the water is easily accessible and the buildings and there aren't many complex buildings. Though, on the other hand, a simple pump like that is another ridiculous extreme.

>>9235924
*Some* organic matter is complex. If we're talking simple substitutes, I could just about see sheets of white organic polymers filling that role. Not sure they'd require a matter convertor, though, just some basic chemistry. More easily recyclable than paper, too. Heck, you could probably just wash the news print off...

>>9236061
If they haven't been retconned, there were convertors in the PTs for self-repairs. Those would explain a lot if they existed but had limited capacity.

>>9236048
I know he's not in charge any more, that's why I said "used to be". And I think it was more that he used to run the place before he abdicated in the early years to the council, right? I was just expecting that he'd have left them with more than a hand pump. He seems like the sort who would have left behind some crazy, even "mad science" level infrastructure (I don't doubt he had a hand in the roof lights and whatever powers the town, for instance, possibly also whatever closed cycle air system the place has...)

I think the roof sprinkler system is no less excessive than the massive roof lights. It'd be good for big, widespread blazes the little fire truck(s) can't handle, too - just open more spigots.

>>9236113
That would require them to have a pre-Petey PT captured, though, wouldn't it? Petey seemed to be a first...

I still feel like we would have seen any such convertors by now, anyway. Or, at the very least, the building where this stuff is housed. We really haven't seen much if anything of any sort of industry Endtown might have, have we?

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>>9164117

I'm a silver fox and it looks like I'm supposed to point a team of enforcers at someone. According to the party makeup at least.

>The indecisive male anthropomorphic yellow-feathered Bird with uncanny abilities. His wardrobe is weird.
Some kind of Kung-Fu-Canary, very useful.
>The incoherent male anthropomorphic brown-furred Dog who can't resist a fight. He has an overmuscled build.
The hothead wo will immediately ruin our careful laid ambush and get himself killed.
>The seasoned female anthropomorphic Elephant. She has a voluptuous build.
A big strong woman who knows what she is doing and with tig ol' bitties. I'll have to charm her with my foxy wiles and then hide behind her when shit goes down.

The mission goes down, but everyone except doggo will make the escape.

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>>9236769
>I'll have to charm her with my foxy wiles and then hide behind her when shit goes down.
That sounds dangerous.

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>>9236999
It worked out for Al, I'll take my chances with the big girl.

>>9236206
Mallard knew about the brain inside which is knowledge only acquired by being inside one or taking it apart, I figure, early on at least, it was easier to nab one or recover a trapped PT.

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I saw this in a thread about kids books and I couldn't help myself.

>>9237400
And yet, apparently no plastic brains in Endtown before Petey, when they've shown themselves to be reasonable beings who aren't exactly attached to the idea of working for Topsiders.

I wonder if Mallard had anything to do with the technology behind them? That could have been where he came to know about the tech...

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>>9237471
>And yet, apparently no plastic brains in Endtown before Petey
Allie and Leo know there's a brain in a MUTT, but they still dispose of it. The only reason they went topside to recover the brain was because he was a witness in Al and Gustine's trial, and the only reason he got put into the robot is because he was Flask's lover.

>>9237440
This is too perfect...

>>9237597
I'm pretty sure the MUTT brains are implied to be entirely subjugated and incapable of higher reasoning, though. They likely don't even count as fully sapient.

And didn't they put him into the robot *because* he was a witness and they needed to get him back, but the transporter was immobile?

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>>9237627
It was because she wanted to save him.

Shit, going back and rereading this part made me remember how fun Mallard was.

>>9237811
That was the immediate impetus, certainly, but like you say, they wanted him as a witness. Mallard would probably have done something similar anyway, I feel.

And yes, he added a lot of fun to the strip... I suspect Aaron hasn't used him much recently because as a supremely-confident hyper-genius he could easily derail the narrative. Or he just doesn't fit the strip's latter-day tone...

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>>9237440

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>>9192600
New team drawing

>>9239713
Oh, thanks! I was considering drawing your team from a few days ago.

>>9239867
You're welcome man, these team drawings are fun to do so I'm glad to provide some OC for these threads (they really have a deficit of content overall).

That'll probably be the only one I'll do tonight but I want to finish the other two entries tomorrow.

>>9240019
c-can i request oc art? after your done with the team drawings of course

>>9240126
As long as you ask normally then sure, no guarantees I'll do requests right away but having them up lets me have something to work on if I get bored.

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>>9240219
gotcha, thanks

>>9239713
Brutal!

New thread.

>>9241831