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TwoKinds General

Mad King Maddie Edition

Newest Page: http://twokinds.keenspot.com/index.php

Comic: http://twokinds.keenspot.com/?p=archive

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>>9077994
>Mad King Maddie Edition

Now I want to see Maddie dressed like Sheogorath, cane and all.


>Pic in this post

Thank you Tom for yet again completely fucking with Keidran maturity once again. Zen is only a year older than Natani and if the wolf in this pic is supposed to be Zen, that means that a 1 year old Keidran is basically the equivalent of human 5 year old

So if 1 year = 5 years in Keidran aging and Zen is currently 14 years old than why doesn't he appear 70!
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PAWS
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>>9077994
The old thread wasn't dead or about to die though. The person who wanted to make a king maddie thread made one prematurely it appears. Not that I'm complaining since this image is pretty cool looking.
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>>9078465
>The old thread wasn't dead or about to die though. The person who wanted to make a king maddie thread made one prematurely it appears

You'd be wrong
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>>9078280
Because it's not a 1:5 ratio of aging. Some people have worked out pretty good formulae (that I forget) but it's out there.

Refer to professional graph.
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>>9078280
How old are natani and zen in wolf terms anyway? Are they young adults? Middle aged? Does natanis relationship with keith make her a cougar?
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>>9078280
A think at this point, we should just take this as a cue not to think too hard on the age thing. Between the inconsistencies and atom changing, it's just an unneeded headache
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>>9078539
I'm not though. As of now the old thread No. Doesn't have a slash through it which means it is still active.
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>>9078564
I have my own scientific graph which disputes your findings
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>>9078465
>300 replies on page 9
>not dead
How new?
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>>9078681
You are though as I was the one who was complaining last thread about it not being Maddie as King themed and I didn't make this thread.
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>>9078691
You have to go back
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>>9078681
You were also wrong about the last thread not being 'dead'. It had reached the bump limit so while it hasn't been bumped past page 10, it will be momentarily
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Do you think Tom will evwe explain what other planets are known in the solar system of meekan? Ancient humans on earth knew all the planets up to saturn as far as distance from the sun.
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>>9078707
>Who wished two kinds had more than 4 main sapient races (I'm including dragons since they can turn into say a human. Not sure about pixies since I don't know how canon they are.)?

There kind of is, there are multiple keidran races including Wolves, Snow Wolves, Tigers, Snow Leopards, Dogs, and Foxes and likely more. Then you have Basitins which have two races, Eastern and Western, Dragons and then Humans (which are divided into two factions The Templar and the Kingdom.
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>>9078771
Doubt it, I mean Elder Scrolls introduced other planets and had a complicated lore behind its moons (with one literally vanishing) before then changing it to say the sky is actually oblivion as comprehending by limited mortal minds with the stars are holes in oblivion leading to Aetherius, including the sun which also allows magic to flow into the worlds.


If Tom were to add cosmological bodies to Mekkan you know he'd make it even more complicated than that and in the end it'd be just flavor dialogue offering nothing really to the story.
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>>9078872
three basitin races, don't forget the landlocked northern snow basitin
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>>9078872
I don't know if different types of kwidran and bastins count as different species. By that logic would a Mongoloid, Caucasoid, and Negroid count as different species of humans?
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>>9078953
For the kinda tech they have in the setting even with magic I wouldn't mind if all that is described about them are hoe big they may be and bright in the sKY they are. Could serve as a convenient plot device for something later on in the story like the planets aligning or a specific planet being special somehow.
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>>9078999
>I don't know if different types of kwidran and bastins count as different species

You didn't say species, you said races.
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>>9078999
Point was that there are enough races/species in the story as it is. Adding more would only drag the comic out even longer than its already been going. I don't think Tom wants to keep the web comic going into his 50's
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Oh yeah FYI as of now tom is streaming. I think now he is coloring the keidran trace, flora dancing sketch.
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>>9079779
he just wrapped it up, next on the list is the OP image
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>>9079810
Coloured Sketches for this month are Magic Lesson Misfire, Moonlit Tiger Dance, King Madness, Breaking Decency Laws and Big Brother; in addition to the 4 Nora Card sketches which are currently 1/4 done.
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>>9078691
you've got no idea how hard that made me laugh
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>>9078983
I had no idea these were a thing.

I hope they have white fur.
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>>9080913
And giant tufts
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>>9083469
please please please please please please please please please please yes
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So no new page this week?

That absurdly detailed upper right panel must have really set Tom back.
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>>9084864
Tom's Tablet is currently in it's death throes so it might be delayed
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>>9084968
Can't say I've ever actually burned through a Wacom. Worse that happened was that I scratched up my Bamboo pretty bad in college (mostly from shoving it in and out of my backpack so often), but I've been using a protective film on my Intuous 5 ever since I got it.

Maybe if I was actually using my Intuos enough to burn it out I would be a better artist, though.
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>>9084968
He's streaming right now so it must be less dead than previously assumed
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>>9085029

He has a Cintiq 24HD. Capacitors on the power board are going out, so it's more of an LCD-related problem than anything you would normally encounter with a Bamboo/Intuos. It's something that you can fix with an hour of youtube videos, a trip to the local electronics store for the appropriate replacement caps and a soldering iron (maybe buy one of those LCD clock kits to practice on, if you aren't confident you won't fuck your $3000 tablet), and a little bit of swearing while you try to take apart a monitor that is held together with deep-set screws and blind clips.
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>>9085627
I had a Samsung monitor go on me once and I was able to fix it by changing the caps. Unfortunately the motherboard bricked a year later and everyone online said there was no way to repair it, so I trashed it. I had no idea a monitor's motherboard even could brick before that.

I've toyed with the idea of getting a cintiq for many years but currently I'm 2poor, and I've decided I'm not going to get one unless I can make money doing art on my Intuos.
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>>9085599
He fixed it but its a "Band-aid fix" for rn. His replacement is coming in soon according to him.
Hopefully there isn't too much of a delay
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So a recap for the stream:
-Natani/Kat spell misfire got colored
-Flora/Tiger Trace dancing got colored
-Mad King Maddie got colored
-Alaric butt got partially colored (not sure when he's going to finish it)
-Zen holding baby Nat got colored
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>>9085627
Those clips are the fucking worst, they make disassembly a bitch.
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>>9084864
Tom needs to fix his skulls
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>>9088780
ABS
TUFT
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>>9088780
Here's some more textless for you.
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>>9088780
>>9089311
>Despite the Tumblr style resolution to Natani's inner conflict YoungNatani was the best part of all that
>we'll never see her again
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>>9089368

Maybe someday brother, maybe some day...
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>>9089561
Come on Nat, don't be shy. You know what they say-- you can't love others until you learn to love yourself.
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>>9089561
If I could afford a dragon card I'd get this one colored.
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>>9089631
dragon card?
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>>9090046
A pledge tier on Tom's patreon where you can basically ask him to color any stream sketch he's done.
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>>9090228
I feel like tom's really loading his plate up too much
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>>9090295
He's already low-key reduced them from 4 cards to 3 looks like lol. Guess it was a bit much.
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>>9089625
WIthout the text it looks like younger Natani is asking older Natani if she can cop a feel of her bountiful tits

Dialogue for last panel

>Grapefruits!
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>>9091491
100% what's happening
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Thread's deader than Zens libido
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>>9093893
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Todays aww
Listening for the Baby
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>>9095151
Maeve is cute.

CUTE!
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>>9095151
>he turned that one stick figure sketch he made on the side during a stream into a proper image
I don't think he even hinted he had finished it unless it was in a stream I missed
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>>9078280
2cute
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>>9095151
Weird that in the comics Flora's belly doesn't get that big despite being pregnant for who knows how far into a keidran gestation period.
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>>9097415
She's only 2-3 months into it, and we still haven't been told how long a Keidran pregnancy usually lasts
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>>9097540
With roughly a lifespan of about 20 years naturally you'd think flora would have popped out a baby by now.

Also there should be no realistic way that flora will come out alright after giving birth. Of not due to the complications of giving birth to a hybrid child for the first time in a really long time (Raine is a special exception so I won't talk about her here) it would be that the other demigods or the demigod representing the humans would do something itself to punish those who have hybrid children since neutral opened the door to that once more. No way that the other mask demigods would not know about neutrals actions and not doing something themselves to "even the playing field"
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>>9096263
>that new jack at the end of episode 7
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>>9097815
I don't think Chaos is even aware of what Neutral's done, or at the very least we've gotten no indication of it. Maybe he thinks what the others are assuming, that Flora just cheated behind Trace's back. He's probably so focused on the war gearing up instead of the two mortals he's convinced have just damned the world in his favor. As far as he's concerned, he's already won

Also don't quote me here, but I think Neutral and Chaos are the only masks left, Order may or may not have died after the Basitins "starved" him
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i honestly think only 2-3 months have passed in comic time in the last 5 years
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>>9099565
2-3 months in the entire comic
they're only on the boat for a couple weeks at a time at the most
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>>9099616
well that explains why Flora's barely showing
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>>9099378
Also to add, hybrids have been established to exist at some point, Neutral just prevented it from happening. So by that logic, she's not breaking any universal laws that'd prompt Chaos to attack her, she's just letting nature resume unabated (at least for one couple, we still don't know for sure if it's just exclusive to Trace and Flora or not)
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>>9099378
I think although you may be right that all may change when the master seer templars learn of this after spying on flora and trace (probably after moving away from Keith and Natani when they may start to get too intimate for the girls liking.) The cat or bird that the seer controls could over hear Flora and Trace talking about their thoughts on their baby that flora is pregnant. After this chaos will definitely know about the hybrid thing neutral has done and since although chaos basically has the game won at this point, a hybrid of the other races would mean that hw would be cheated out of victory since someone down the line could be 1/128 keidran and though looks completely human neutral would still be in the game since nor all keidran blood is extinct.

My theory is that chaos can't undo what neutral has done since like a game of chess you can't unmoved what the opponent has done. What chaos COULD do though is tat he can make having hybrid children be such an ordeal for the one pregnant that a near 100% fatality rate of the mother giving birth to a hybrid could be a thing. This way neutral could still have the hybrids she wants and chaos can have his detract and punishment for having such a thing happen. Though whether Tom would actually do that is doubtful since Two kinds is one with the fanservice and flora is among the more fanservicy characters.
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>>9099616
I think when they were getting onto the boat, Flora mentioned something towards Trace that they've known each other for six months and for keidran it's a fairly long period of time. Not totally sure because it's been years.
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>>9099378
Or maybe he knows but doesn't care or is even amused that Neutral stooped to his level basically violating neutrals own rules in order to win their game.
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>>9100873
How did chaos stoop down to a lower level. I didn't know any "rules" that he broke or crossed any lines that the other demigods would look down upon.
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>>9099966
>What chaos COULD do though is tat he can make having hybrid children be such an ordeal for the one pregnant that a near 100% fatality rate of the mother giving birth to a hybrid could be a thing.

But how and why? Chaos punishing Flora for giving birth to the embodiment of what he basically stands for doesn't make any sense.

Neutrals last ditch effort to save some Keidran blood if anything should make Chaos feel smug, not only did Neutral lose to a human, shes now being forced to basically do what Chaos does which is break the rules in order to just go on. Its a grand humilation atop of devastating defeat, thus I don't think he'll interfere.
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>>9100907
Choas didn't stoop lower, neutral did. Neutral is about maintaining a balance, her allowing Flora to become pregnant by a human basically upset that balance and created potential chaos, ergo she sunk to Chaos's level.
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>>9101097
Which is why I think Chaos is going to have it so that the hybrid child will cause Flora to die from child birth and try to have Trace join the dark side again by tempting him to kill the baby as it was responsible for killing Flora a day Neutral made this happen (chaos leaves out the part that he made hybrid births lethal to the mother.)
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>>9101239
I doubt it, I don't see the god of war as being the subtle type. Even Neutral, for all her string-pulling, had to directly confront Trace when it came to actually trying to kill him. Not to mention death by childbirth sounds like grimderp for the sake of grimderp, something I think (and hope) Tom wouldn't do
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>>9102491
she's gonna die in childbirth
and then trace will bang their daughter when she grows up
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>>9102778
Sounds like a fan fic. Then again at times the twokinds comic itself seems like a fan fic of itself.
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>>9102778
and the daughter will be called fauna
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>>9103452
Don't even go there.
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>>9103583
and then trace remarries to Iris and has a son named leioan
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>>9103717
Isn't she the hermaphrodite?
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>>9103772
she ?
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>>9103772
hwhat
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>>9103772
Leoian is a male.
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>>9104390

>implying Leoian is not subhuman
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>>9104441
Careful now. Leoian I learned does actually take a look on /trash/ occasionally though how often I don't know.
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>>9104500
Should we give a fuck ? I don't think so.
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>>9097923
But I liked scruffy Jack...
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>>9105154
hobojack was cool but now he gets to go back to his prime just like the scotsman
now they just need da samoorai to de-age too and they'll have the perfect dream team to take down aku
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>>9105154
It is kinda weird seeing Jack's old character design again. I had kind of gotten used to Punished Jack.

We will see the beard again before the end, though.
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>>9097923
>newjack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f-NQZYCZnA
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>>9094595
>zen's face
>clovis's face
>natani's face
>zen's dialogue
this whole pic is a 10/10
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Bump with a bump
>Zen starts picking up weird vibes through the mental link
>sudden mood swings
>odd cravings
>finally reopens the mental link all the way to figure out what's going on the other end
>he finds pic related
>"Damnit , Natani"
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>>9108923
Why does she look so smug? She'd probably be horrified to find out she's carrying keiths mulatto child.
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>>9109439
>not wanting a confident girl in all situations
She's probably had a few months to acclimate to the changes. Also that may or may not be twins
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>>9109439
>Neutral only made it possible for humans and keidran to breed
>Keidran and basitin still unable
>Natani pregnant.

Uh-oh.
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>>9109579
But was the adultery all natanis doing or was keith pressuring her into it?
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>>9109579
>>9110007
>Trace offering to be surrogate father for Keith and Natani
>Flora and Trace enjoy babymaking session with Keith and Natani
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>>9109579
>>9110007
>>9110174
Nah, Keith used his one wish for a species swap
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>>9110482
Is natani getting a tail erection over wolf keith?
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>>9110174
>Keith super into cuckoldry

Why does this make so much sense.
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>>9110482
I wonder what kind of fit the masks would throw if they found out the collar of keidranification was real? There would be no boundaries between keidran and other species for breeding.
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>>9111123
Well he did go desperately chasing after laura, risking his life in the process, even though he suspected she had cheated on him with half her tribe. So he is kind of a cuck
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>>9111176
To beat a meme to death, it'd probably be:
[autistic screeching]
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>>9111304
>Well he did go desperately chasing after laura, risking his life in the process, even though he suspected she had cheated on him with half her tribe. So he is kind of a cuck

1. He didn't suspect Laura cheated on him with half her tribe, he didn't know what happened with Laura. Infidelity was a fear he had not necessarily a belief and the whole gang bang scenario never even got implied in the comic at all, its your pure head canon.

2. Stop using the word 'cuck' you clearly don't know what a cuck is so I guess I'll have to spell it out.

A cuck is not just a guy who was cheated on or is being cheated on. A cuck is a guy who accepts that his partner is getting fucked by other men and does nothing to stop it and may even like it and encourage it. A cuck wouldn't go chasing after their partner if they stopped showing up, they'd pretend like nothing was wrong because they are oblivious to the fact their partner isn't really interested in them anymore.

Keith is not a cuck, so stop calling him one. The closest things to a cuck in the comic is Sythe and Saria's ghost
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>>9110482
A wolf face does fit Keith pretty well I must say.
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>>9111510
I was about to say, if anyone is a cuckold it would be Laura since Keith started to develop intimate feelings for Natani around the same time as the basitin island arc and though they didn't sleep or so anything sexually at the time Laura was already guilt Strucken with abandoning Keith and for all she knew he already slept with another person between their encounters.
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A wild blowjob appears!
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>>9111123
It only makes sense if you believe how Keith is portrayed in the side sketches is canon

In the comic, if Trace ever suggested such a thing I could see Keith reflexively punching him in the face for suggesting it. I mean he punched Natani in the face for falling into a coma for reasons beyond her control.
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>>9111617
Follow up to this
<-------------

Mrs Nibbly is off screen futility trying to drag Reds sword behind Kat so she could stab her in the back
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>>9111510
What would have happened if he did find laura, if she had slept with a bunch of other guys like keith feared, and she offered to get back together with him? (which by the way, was what he was hoping for when he went searching for her)

I'll tell you what would have happened, they would have got back together, got married shortly afterwards and if laura had been knocked up by the other foxes keith would have taken care of the kid. That's a cuck.
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>>9111617
>>9111670
>Kat or Sythe ever losing their v-cards
nah they're both dying alone and unloved
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I'm surprised no one has yet to ask Tom to draw one of the characters in either adventures or assault outfit of krystal from star fox.
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>>9111675
Tbh you might be right. Hell he might even have said "it's their culture" as justification.
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>>9077994
I found LMAO if a follow up pic had the true king coming back from a trip to another part of the island and saw what maddie did and grounded her for her actions for tricking people that she is the new king.
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>>9111555
>I was about to say, if anyone is a cuckold it would be Laura

No she isn't. Keith and Natani weren't a thing yet, the closest to them getting to a thing is when Natani kissed Keith while he was paralysed, which was something he didn't see coming at all.

Keith wasn't interested in Natani throughout the whole arc, Natani was showing interest in him but he was obvious being too focused on Laura showing up. Laura was not a cuckoid and before you say it, neither was Natani
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>>9111747
How can Natani possibly be a cuckold if she never was in a relationship before keith?
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>>9111675
>What would have happened if he did find laura, if she had slept with a bunch of other guys like keith feared

Keith never feared that, he didn't know what happened to Laura. Infidelity was probably one possibility which went through his head and a possible fear which the hearts desire spell acted on, but gang bang or being a keidran slut was never implied at all. Your head canon isn't canon.

>>9111733
Keep in mind that we learn about that part of 'their' culture from Eric who is a complete perv and Flora who has a bit self loathing for being a Keidran and fantasizes about being human
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>>9111789
exactly
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>>9111794
Of course it never happened but for the illusion to even mention it means that keith considered it a possibility, however remote, and he still chased after laura regardless.
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>>9111794
Keith also thought like that if I recall correctly...though, that WAS later after he met Flora and Trace.
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>>9111868
If you are referring to the gang bang scenario, it was never implied.

>Of course it never happened but for the illusion to even mention it means that keith considered it a possibility, however remote, and he still chased after laura regardless

When did he have that thought though? Before he was driven from the Keidran village or after? Either way it doesn't make Keith a cuck because he went looking for Laura because he didn't know what happened to her, not because he believed she cheated on him.

So calling him a cuck is an incorrect use of the word
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>>9111878
And he was bitter at the time with Keidran, I mean he wanted to kill Flora on sight. That's quite a bit of anger, either way his bitterness proved to irrational.
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On Keidran promiscuity, its really not all that different from people in our culture. How many people marry the first girl they fuck? Not many. How many go from girlfriend to girlfriend before settling on one? Quite a few actually.

Keidran only live 20 years, their sense of time is different than ours. Humans looking in might think they were shameless promiscuous but only because they can't think in Keidran time frames. Flora thinks more like a human than Keidran because she was brought up among humans and not Keidran, Eric only has academic knowledge of the subject and you can't trust it because it was probably gathered by humans, and Keith had his fears which lead to irrational bitterness.
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new page when
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>>9112093
30 years*
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>>9112102
No? Why do you think that?
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>>9112200
Because Tom retconned Keidran lifespans to explain how the fuck Euchre and Rose can still be alive when they are late into their 20s
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>>9112225
So what is the new lifespan then? Could simply be that 20s is still the average lifespan but those two characters have very stong genes like how some humans can live to be way over a hundred.
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>>9112200
Not the guy you quoted, but Tom mentioned it on stream a few months ago, specifically he said roselyn is now around 26 iirc and the lifespan is 25-30 years, up from 20.

Much better IMO, didnt really make sense for natani and zen to act like teenagers if they were almost 75% of the way through their lives, at 13 and 14 respectively.
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>>9112225
DID he do that, or are you assuming he did that? There could easily be some magic BS at work on both of them.

Be honest.
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>>9112241
With war, disease, and probably famine (especially with Tiger Keidran who are strict carnavores), I'd think the average lifespan would be lower than 20.

I mean look at humans before the enlightenment, average lifespans were about 25 to 30 years as well because death from disease, famine, and conflict were much more commonplace. Hell just dying in childbirth was common as well.
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>>9111696
but sythe's knotting maren nightly
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>>9112722
Damn straigth. Expect wolfcub filled belly soon.
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this general deserves to be deleted from trash
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>>9113298
appropriate edits must happen
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>>9113393
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>>9113298
Aaand I suck, I cant find any good pics of her to edit. It has to be a drawn pic from scratch and Im nowhere that good.
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>>9112309
Europe before the enlightenment didn't have powerful all-purpose magic to rely on, believed bathing is bad for your health, and streets reeked of shit. Making comparisons like that is whiffed at best.
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>>9113298
>>9113485
Done
(I'm sorry)
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>>9114311
Far as we've seen magic can heal but we haven't seen how well it does against disease, regardless for Keidran it requires magic crystals which are likely not an unlimited resource (especially if humans control the supply). If the supply is low and a war is going on, how likely are say wolves going to divert some of those resources just in order to heal some random civilian peasant? Not likely.

You also still have the issue of conflict and famines.

Point is its unlikely the average Keidran lives to die of old age in Mekkan. Most probably die under 20.
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>>9114795
Which is also why their populations haven't exploded to surpass humans
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>>9111617
source?
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>>9114294
>that feel when you've grown pretty decent at editing shit but every time you want to draw something from scratch it ends up all over the place
Truly the worst hell, but one of my own making.
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>>9114795
The point is, living conditions in pre-enlightenment europe and mekkan aren't comparable.

I mentioned all-purpose magic which didn't specifically refer to healing, but it's still an option - when there's no big wars going on, nothing stops individuals from searching out nearby healers who have not just herbs but actual magic to work with, opposed to, say, practices like bloodletting.

Again, basic hygiene does wonders in terms of health and it's clear enough by now the standards in mekkan are close enough to ours.

Yes, there's conflict and famines but even then, the food has to be easier to come by than the time almost all of peasantry was malnutritioned in some way. Hell, some keidran are carnivorous while medieval peasantry couldn't afford meat at all.
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>>9112099
comic's canceled we canal go horm
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>>9113298
Pretty sure they would be humans with wolfish characteristics, but then again we still don't know what convention Tom is going to follow with keidran / human offspring. Raine is an unreliable example since her father shapeshifted into human form when she was concived.
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>>9111741
In all likelihood Maddie will never be king because the Basitin government is a meritocracy. You get promoted either by your superiors, or by beating a superior in fair combat. King is the title they use for their highest ranking military officer, hence why they use it as a gender-neutral term.
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>>9115869
well king was gender neutral in medieval times before queen was adopted
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>>9115937
Part of it is linguistic and it likely comes out of the idea of merging states through marriage. One kingdom has a male heir, and the other has a female heir. Obviously they're not both going to be referred to as king if they marry and their kingdoms merge, so that may be in part why "queen" ended up being both the preferred term for a female monarch and the name for the king's wife.

Oddly enough though, a queen's husband is rarely called king unless he is the crowned monarch. If the queen is the ruler, her husband is usually called a prince.
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>>9114396
I meant I tried to edit Maren as the one carrying wolf offspring.

We have a tiger being preggers, why not a human havung a wolf mate?
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>>9114935
Source on this, looks like it has been cropped.
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>>9116790
>raine's hands
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>>9116790
I know, it was a bad joke at my own expense. Maybe someday Snowmeowth will get around to one of them (if there was an image with a good shot of their midriff). And yes, we need the hybrid thing to go both ways. I know it'll never happen but I've always wanted to see a piece from the AU where everyone's the opposite gender with male Flora pampering a fecund fem Trace.
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>>9117072
I understand, and yes on the au universe thing
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>>9116820
Picture was related to the post, I never really finished that one and ultimately it's just an edit, so I probably wouldn't post it anywhere anyway (except maybe u18's edits thread).
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>>9117542
I would love it if you posted it, we all love edits.
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>>9116851
Hands are not fun to draw. If it's just a doodle I can't fault Tom for skimping on them, especially in a multi-character pic.
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I'm just surprised I learn more in this thread than 90% of the other threads I visit.
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>>9116790
>tails didnt blow out the asses of their pants
boo
boo you, tom
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Why do keidran and basitins have slit pupals?
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>>9118948
For Keidran, it's supposed to be their one unifying feature despite all the different varieties.
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>>9119082
I thought it was the fact that they are all based on real life carnivorous mammals
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>>9118948
Most likely answer: Tom thought it looked cool but probably never bothered to look into the evolutionary reasons for slit pupils

It makes sense for nocturnal species but much less so for diurnal species which are mostly active during the day. A sunny day with such eyes would be near blinding as everything would appear much more intensely lit than we see it like seeing the world through an intense brightness filter all day long.

I mean even Disney realized this in Zootopia, the reason Nick wears the sunglasses isn't for style or because hes sunbathing but because bright sunlight can actually damage his unprotected eyes just like with real foxes who typically aren't active during the day unless its overcast or at very least cloudy because on sunny days its downright uncomfortable for them and can actually get eye damage if they get too much.
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>>9114938
>keith just allows kat to stare at natanis while she strips
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>>9119886
Can't fault her for staring if he's not going to stop himself either
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>>9120069
Well they're together already, kat is intruding. Though I suppose keith doesnt know kat has the hots for natani so he doesnt see anything immediately wrong with them seeing each other naked
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>>9120166
You're looking too deep into a non-canon, patron funded and suggested piece. Just relax and enjoy the cheesecake
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>>9120166
I don't think Natani know either and if she did she'd be much less comfortable having her see her nakid besides the whole 'I'm a guy' thing
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>>9120284
>Natani's wolf sized brain compressed into a Basitin sized skull
>that look on her face

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrCPIrs90eg
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>>9114938
Look at Keith's cape. There's a tailboner going on back there.
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>>9120325
Close but not quite, they just swapped body types. Keith got Nat's abs and 6'3" height while Natani shrunk down to Keith's 5'5" and became a bit more dainty.

And this is a proper gender bending
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>>9120500
Could someone edit the dick and balls bigger? That's not equivalent to Natani's tits in size yet.
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>>9120284
>when_fan_artists_get_the_proportions_wrong.jpg
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>>9120522
the knot aint even out yet anon
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>>9115937
I thought they were called king-consorts? Or is that something else.
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>>9122437
King consort is an alternative title for prince consort. A consort is the spouse of the reigning monarch. The wife of a reigning king is likewise called the queen consort.

For some reason prince consort is the official title used in the UK for the reigning queen's husband.
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>>9120500
nips on keidran always look weird to me now
damn you tom
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>>9120450
how can you even tell from that angle
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>>9124262
It's poofing out and up towards the back. You notice these things when you've been drawing fabric for enough years.
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>>9125327
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Now I think about it why isn't Keith more muscled than he is currently? He trains for fights, does manual work.. Natani certainly managed to get some abs.

>>9122643
Because we couldn't have a bloody foreigner being our king. And a German at that.

There's actually some interesting stuff about the decision to make Prince Albert not a king consort. I should also note that it's not necessarily tradition for the UK royal family to use the title as we've only done it once. It's just the once was also a biggie.
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>>9125881
>Now I think about it why isn't Keith more muscled than he is currently
because some people no matter how hard they work out will never bulk up, they'll get stronger but not noticeably bigger
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Come join Heresy and Seff for some doodles and bad movies.

https://picarto.tv/HeresyArtStream

I will be drawing some Fem Mike tonight.
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>>9126359
Aww she is so cute.
Too bad Im stuck at work, have a fun streaming
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>>9127238
>jmadoc
.ew
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Fem Mike time lapse
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>>9128590
>that whole transition
>gets pregnant and then goes full milf
10/10 goddamn
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>>9128590
I made some really subtle fixes that no-one will probably notice but me, but at any rate this version is slightly higher-res anyway.
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>>9128590
>>9128666
It's evals kid right?
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>>9128683
Of course.
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>>9128666
>That hair
>Those thighs

bretty good, Heresy.
I'd just up the cup size on that last one and it's perfect.
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>>9128666
My line of thinking with the dress in #2 and #3 is that Mike's old shirt was so over-sized for her that she cut it up and re-purposed it into a little dress, maybe with some help from Kat. It was probably a size too big when she was still a boy, anyway.
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>>9128691
>up the cup size
he's already rockin at least a double D there
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>>9128817
Looks like she retained a cup size or two after pregnancy, and that's fine.

(Who's taking bets on whether or not Flora retains any of her boobage at all after she gives birth?)
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>>9128845
Flora has nothing to lose and all to gain in the boob department
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>>9128845
>>9128917
>she develops cancer and has to get a masectomy
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>>9128917
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Threadly reminder that there are more pictures of Mike as a girl than a boy.
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So here's a thought--- if basitins are some combination of feline and lagomorph, is it possible that the basitins' ancient ancestors were essentially bunny people who interbred with feline keidran extensively over generations, until the masks decided to stop basitins, humans, and keidran from being able to interbreed through magic?
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>>9128808
I think the outfits in 2 and 3 are just Kat style aprons unless my eyes have stopped working
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>>9129649
They go around the back and have side slits.
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>>9129403
I'd say they appear more like a combination of vulpine and feline, specifically Fennec foxes
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>>9130595
Tom said in the past that basitins appearance are a mix of cat and rabbit features which i sorta doubt since a long time ago keidran were supposed to be the feline based race and basitins are the canine based race. You can tell by looking at the earliest basitin images and see that they have a dog like tail.
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>>9130654
That and all the Keidran species so far have been predator species Wolves/Dogs, Foxes, Tigers, ect. If there were prey species Keidran I get the sneaking suspecion the predator species didn't breed with them.... they ate them into extinction.
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>>9128666
You don't know how to draw Keidran feet Satan, you want human feet and that is disguisting.

I mean why did you give Mike human like foot ball? You do realize thats a joint right? That they don't walk on that any more than we walk on our knees.
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>>9130718
I just thought that Tom originally wanted a dog like species and a tiger like species because most fursonas tend to be dog's or canines as well him thinking tigers are cool. Later on he probably though for simplicity reasons why not make them all 1 species and heck throw in some other dog and tiger looking creatures in the mix as well.
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>>9130804
Only they are not the same species othewise Felines and Canines could breed with each other without any complications however sometimes when they do their offspring are sterile, that indicates chromosomal difference, enough to label them as a seperate species like lions and tigers who can breed but their offspring as sterile cept for a lucky 2% of them who are fertile.
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>>9130851
If that is the case why did Tom call them all the same species and have 1 demigod mask representing them all instead if two or more?
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>>9130851
That and it seems Tigers and Wolves don't normally breed with each other and keep to their own races, mating behaviors are one of the factors considered along with genetic compatibility when labeling a species. I'd be comfortable calling Tigers a different species of Keidran than Wolves or Foxes with Keidran being more akin to Family in terms of order rather than species
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>>9130863
That is because Tom doesn't do his research, I mean fucks up anatomy, weapon, and armor design on a regular basis all for the sake of aesthetics, plus he started this comic when he was 16 he probably didn't know dick about taxonomy
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>>9122125
Someone e-edit the knot in then, please?
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>>9128590
poor mike
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>>9131914
I'm not good enough for that
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>>9130775
pawfags outto
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today's colored pic features the pair that drives leioan further down the bottle
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>>9133488
aww such cuteness. heartwarming.
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>>9133315
He's not totally wrong, the feet structure heresy used is closer to human than keidran-style paws. Still a nice picture, though.
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>>9133488
Don't kid yourself. As we speak, Leioan is probably already frantically editing his character into the pic so as to maintain his delusion
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>>9134069
>>9133488
Here you go.
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>>9134296
WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT?!
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>>9134345
Well you asked for it.
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>>9134363
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>>9134397
>>9134363
>>9134345
>>9134296
>>9134069
Either way, you don't want Leoian stuff, just don't talk about him. Now you can post this glorious art piece to all the usual websites (and his forum).

To close the discussion let's shill his shit and let you think about your mistake.

http://project2nd.com/
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/leoian/

Lesson: You don't want to see leoian's stuff. Don't talk about it.
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>>9134474
have one of my older edits, before I lost my tablet pen.

I still remember you pen, it felt like it was just yesterday I used you to put breasts on things.
RIP pen...
I WILL NEVER FORGET YOU!
*unmanly crying*
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>>9134605
Mrs Nibbly must be bisexual
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>>9134474
Ew, don't post his actual site. Ads give him money. Use a Webarchive link or something.
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>>9134683
Sure.
http://project2nd.com/
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>>9134683
>Ew, don't post his actual site.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oavMtUWDBTM
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>>9134643
Nah, she just wants Sythe regardless of state
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>>9135023
and Raine.
She oogling dat wolfgrrl along her husbando Sythe...

I predict 3 part shenanigans in the future
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>>9135092
I think part of that has to do with the fact that Raine is the only one besides Sythe to give her any real acknowledgement beyond just being a random rodent. She even pinned Nibbley's bio
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>>9134296
holy fuck I'm dying

it doesn't even look that much off
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NIB-ZILLA WILL CRUSH YOUR TOWN!
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>>9136027
Trace casts magic missile at the darkness
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>>9135023
>already knotted, came, and popped out of her
>claims to be unsure on his feelings
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>>9136979
Maybe after she has their child he'll know
Or maybe the trend will continue, who knows
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>>9137118
>>9135023
Could someone try mixing these two? Preggo sex, yum.
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>>9137298
A god-awful attempt was made
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>>9137583
hey dude, it looks good. thanks for doing it.
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>>9137298
>>9137583
>>9137855
A second party made a decent attempt.
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>>9138083
Hopefully decent, that is. Just belly, smaller boobs.
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>>9138103
And just the bigger tits because why not.
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DAMN! you guys are real edit heroes!
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>>9128987
no greater injustice
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>>9140152
Nah, I wouldn't have it any other way.
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>>9138740
Preg edits seem to be the running theme lately. Or just preg in general
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>>9140429
Preg is best
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>>9130595
"Vulpine" is actually just an archaic, scientifically dubious term for what we now know to be a genus of canids-- and ironically, not all foxes are in the vulpis genus. "Vulpine" comes from a time before people knew that foxes were actually a close relative of dogs and wolves.
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Is it just me or so far in the entire two kinds comic all the magic we've ever seen keidran use either come from the wolves?
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>>9141105
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>>9141240
Clovis is half fox yet it doesn't seem to have dulled his ability. But essentially yeah, the only Keidran we've seen use magic so far have been wolves. Then again there have been a grand total of 4 foxes in the comic, The Tiger procession made up largely of diplomats, and Evals the lonely dog Keidran.
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>>9141458But essentially yeah, the only Keidran we've seen use magic so far have been wolves.

Non-canon one-shots notwithstanding.
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>>9141746
This had me thinking. Originally the basitins were going to be magical wielding creatures around the same time when they were described a long eared dog people but were then changed to magic actually being bad for them around the time when they became cat/rabbit people. Perhaps canine keidran are more naturally magically connected than the felines?
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Never change deviantart.
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So, Adrakist mimic dragons, right? They alter their forms to become closer to dragons.

Bet you they get dragon dicks. Now Heres a thought; at what point in their initiation do you get the dragon dick? First thing? High Priests only?
Is it "Hey, good job on making it in! Here's your new dick! Or slit if you want, hey we're magically transforming you we can do whatever", or is it more... "Ah, yes... You have passed the final trials in the way of the dragon, only one final gift of transformation remains.. the divine spear of the dragons. Yes, that which you have craved these many years shall now be bestowed to you".

These are the serious worlduilding questions we should be asking.
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>>9142896
seraphina already has a fully functioning cloaca
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>>9143006
.ew
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>>9142062
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>>9142062
I'm not bothered with Natani being sexualized, every non-human character in the comic has been sexualized to death whether they be male or female, so what makes Natani off-limits? Because it triggers special snowflakes? Well fuck them.

No what bugs me with how Natani is being portrayed is that she had a chance to be a genuinely interesting and complex character but since the beginning Tom has steadily steered her towards being he butt of most of the dirty jokes which totally diminishes any chance of her being taken seriously.

Now we have Raine in a similar situation with Natani reaching the climax of her gender-identity plot. While Raine is not gender confused, she is confused about her place in the world given shes both human and keidran, identifying as one while also being curious of the other. How long before the dirty joke focus shifts to Raine and we are left with only characters of Flora and Kat tier?
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Fresh page

Calling it now, this is going to lead to them getting shit faced and Natani throwing on the undies in her stupor
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>>9145649
Extra detail to add for those not keeping tabs on the streams; at first, the list included "Four Fox Sake", but at the last second Tom started checking and found that there was an actual company with that name so he swapped it out for the Dragon Whiskey
(Also he's gone back from Snow Wolf to White Wolf again)
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>>9145649
natani looks too fuckin cute in that first panel
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>>9145649
tom misspelled whiskey
also that last panel needs a dildo edit pronto
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>>9145732
>that last panel needs a dildo edit pronto

And this is why the whole rational behind Tom not drawing smut because he wants to get a job later holds no water.

There is literally mountains of smut edits of his work which horny editors have looked for every opportunity to exploit and Tom has done nothing to discourage it at all.

When Tom goes looking for a job and they google his work a lot of these smut edits are going to pop up and they probably won't even know they are edits and will think Tom drew them like that.
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>>9146053
Unless they go to e621, most of it will be under someone else's name
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>>9145649
holy shit a smug keith looks so out of place
even more so with the white sclera
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going back a few pages did keith really think anybody would believe his statement that him and natani aren't a couple after he publicly motorboated her and they kissed in front of his "soldiers"
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>>9146242
Point still stands. It only takes somebody posting Toms name and it'll potentially show up in a google search.
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>>9142062
This is too much cringe even for me.
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>>9145649
So will that wine turn keith into a white wolf, like here >>9110482 and when they finally bump uglies natani will get pregnant
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An anon made a coloring of Tiger fem trace.
And for all the edits that people do, thanks. I dont think it is mentioned enough but thanks.
You guys are what keeps the fun going!
The same goes fir all the artists that make tk art also. Stay fancy people
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>>9148358
That first bit actually sounds like a good Patreon suggestion. We'll just have to imagine the second part
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>>9148516
Being a futa would really suit her more
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>>9148592
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>>9148592
being on top of Keith in pure love/babymaking extacy would suit her even more.
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>>9148804
They'll never fuck, tom will just string along the 'will they wont they' relationship forever while revisiting natanis gender identity issues once every year or two until he stops making the comic.
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>>9148592
It does
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>>9149247
You speak true words anon.
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>>9149247
Nah, he'll just have her killed off in some manner to fuel the endless cycle of Keith losing everyone close to him
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>>9148628
>countless pawfags and dobson-tier pregnancy edits
>futa goes too far
???
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>next page lynn busts in for a routine inspection to find natani holding keith upside down while he buttchugs
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>>9149873
Futa's a meme fetish, what do you expect us to say?
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>>9149967
still higher quality than inflation "pregnancy" pics or footfags
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>>9149694
Tom isn't about to kill the most popular character in the comic and fans favorite couple, her brother however...

>Nolonger fills us in on the status of the wolf clans
>Mindscape invalidated is importance to Natan's well being
>Two groups are about to reunite in Edinmire so his usefulness as a bridge between both groups is about to come to an end

... is quickly becoming expendable.
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>>9149929
Keith looks like a completey different character with full sclera
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>>9150123
turns out the only thing keith needed to break his eye curse was not having everybody he loved dying every day
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>>9150088
zen is still more relevant to the plot than maren, karen, red, raine or sythe by the lone fact of being related to one of the main characters
also tom has killed literally 4 characters since the story started and two were antagonists
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>>9150146
Raine will be important to the plot since she has been to Lyn'Knoll, has a connection to Euchre, and is a member of both human and keidran races

Red will still be important to Raine as her protector and potential love interest.

Sythe while being a bumbling fool is also a diplomat with knowledge of both humans and keidran. His advise to Raine is likely going to prove invaluable to her figuring out her place in the world.

Maren is expendable, shes only come along to find Trace and when she finds him with Flora and Flora pregnant shes probably going to flip out and abandon the group (though I hope amicably, I'd hate for her to become Judas)

Karen has never been important to the plot, she literally only exists to annoy everybody and amuse the reader. While Madelyn is similar shes at least proven herself useful and competent. Karen however is just there.
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>>9150088
>this will forever be the closest we get to a canon view of a male keidran's crotch
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>>9150088
Why is he skinnier than natani if he's the melee fighter of the two, whereas natani focussed on learning magic? To say nothing of men having more muscle than women.
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>>9150470
he's not that skinny
also he's a few inches taller than her so he's even bigger proportionally
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>>9150512
She's drawn with more definition and size than zen on a pretty regular basis, I get that its all part of her 'amazonian' thing but it really ought to carry over to other wolves, especially her older brother, otherwise its just fetish art IMO
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>>9150470
>>9150512
Who isn't to say that Natani hasn't been intentionally bulking up over the years to try and make herself look more masculine and to try and better disguise her feminine physique? I'd say that this was met with mixed results as though she does have visibly big muscles her womantly features are still present and she still has somewhat a soft womanly look on her in some places.
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>>9150470
Being a melee isn't all about strength, its also about agility and speed. Too much muscle would slow him down and make it easier for his marks to out maneuver him. Remember hes an assassin, not a barbarian.

I agree with Natani bulking up to appear more masculine, shes a mage rather than a melee fighter so her fighting up close and personal doesn't really play to her strengths. However she can draw on Zen's skill as well as Zen doing the same, its how he casted that Maren illusion. In close quarters having all that muscle might slow her down but at least she can fight using Zen's skill through the link rather than being some scrawny mage pushover.
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New theme time
Zen and baby Nat like >>9078280?
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>>9151193
Nah, sexy lingeire time thread.
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Or a Wild Stripes Edition thread
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>>9151494
And Nothing Really Changed Edition
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Im making a new thread. It will be a surprise, like a xmas gift or an tax audit
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New thread
>>9151627
>>9151627
>>9151627
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>>9150349
Let's face it, the girls of group B just wanted an excuse to get Zen out of his clothes.
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>>9151018
'cept they're poor fucks so I doubt they could afford enough food to put on any muscle so.
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