/awsw/ - Angels With Scaly Wings General #31, Everybody Want

>>8292456
First for once more through the portal
The ride never ends

Someone didn't read the OP bin edition.

Fourth for my husbando doesn't drink and neither do I.

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>>8292627
Stupid sexy chief
Changed me for the better

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>>8292456
>trump op

I just need a warm Remy to fall asleep next to.

>>8292757
remy is literally jeb bush

>>8292841
I'm not American, so I wouldn't know.

All that I do know is that Bush is one of the more obvious flavours of shit your politics have to offer, so DELET THIS.

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>>8292687

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I never realized one of the WIP logos was this bloody
I guess it's fitting, but still

>>8292456
It's a bad idea to mix politics with anything on this site. I know you knew this when you started the thread.

>>8293403
>pls don't tell anybody how I live

>>8293403
this is so sad :(

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mods got updated with post-true bryce
mods are pretty much dead as the threads are
i feel mods have potential, but need exposure to something outside /trash/

>>8287332
holy fuck i thought that was fake
http://steamcommunity.com/app/571880/discussions/1/133256240731986064/?ctp=2#c133259956018459152
here's webm related if anyone is curious.

>>8295656
>The look on her face
Gets me every time.

>>8295656
A pic of adine with cum on her snout would be amazing.

Drawfags!

>>8295656
Now that is some straight up /b/ cancer.

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>>8296390
/trash/ is the equivalent of /b/ but furry/scaly.

>>8296390
If it's any consolation, several Adinehuggers were completely against the idea.

>>8295656
Remy's there as well

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>>8294186
>>8294199
Fortunately his place is not quite as desolate as all that
At least not anymore, who knows how he lived before he moved there

>>8295656
>mods are pretty much dead as the threads are
That isn't a bad thing, we still get through threads so mods are definitely going to be completed, right?

>>8300118
Any place inhabited by an earth dragon will probably end up as a dump, lacking hands for cleaning and all that.
How Remy the klutz managed to keep his place so clean is beyond me.
I imagine a house cleaning service run by runner dragons would be very popular.

>>8300288
Remy kept it clean because that mattered to him, and anything that's really important he can pull off flawlessly.

Like tying knots.

>>8300312
what kind of knots tho?
Would Remy have a knotted dick?
Does trying rope knots make his knot get hot?

>>8300435
I imagine larger dragons would have crocodilian nethers, and there's something in there that does kinda look like a knot.

And it's not tying rope, per se.

>>8300288
A service like that may even be mandatory and government-regulated according to species, I imagine. It wouldn't do to have all your strongest citizens live in dumps, half of which probably make up your police force

Just one of the downsides of keeping so closely aligned with human ideals

>>8300460
Do we learn after all this time that dragon society is socialist?

>>8300475
I was thinking more 'gentle encouragement to hire a government contractor' who they would naturally also have to pay for themselves in one way or another
Maybe part of health insurance?

>>8300820
Remy confirmed tripfag.

>>8300847
Wait, how does-
Oh you

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>>8300851

>>8300820
What's that green thing at his hind claw?

>>8301324
A book

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>haven't played in a while
>play Lorem's path
>find out his secret
>mfw

>>8301500
>Secret
He just blabs it at you, and apparently everyone knows. It's even mentioned at Bryce's bbq if you've spent a lot of time with Lorem.

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Fire is hard, who would have thought. Spent almost all my time yesterday trying and re-trying different approaches to emulate the shine of open flames. The first few were hillariously bad
Now all the light screwed up the contrast a little and Annas colors still look way off, but after that it's all just detail work, I think

If anyone's got ideas for any of Remy, Emera, Zhong or Lorem already, fire away. Can't hurt to start the planning early, maybe throw out a few sketches

>>8301549
I think they stop themselves before they actually do mention it, though. Something like
>Oh, you're seeing Lorem? Isn't that the-
>Wait, no, let's change the topic

>>8301651
>remy
If you want to practice more lighting, show him sitting at a table.
As in, dinner table. Candles for lighting, facing viewer.

Fumbling with cutlery optional.

>>8301651
You might want to consider having two streams from the mouth that intersect near the target for lore accuracy. The whole scene looks really nice.
Why is Mav starting a forest fire? He doesn't seem like the destructive type.

I've got some ideas, but a lot of them are complex:
>Remy desperately trying to play a Wii game, maybe with someone giving encouragement at his side.
>Happy Emera on a dinner date with an uncomfortable Bryce.
>Zhong on the travel vacation with his kid.
>Lorem on a stage showcasing his game.

>>8292863
>he doesn't know about the guac bowl merchant
>>8292841 is saying that Remy is a clumsy buffoon who makes a laughing-stock of himself at every turn, I think

>>8302009
In that case: triggered.

>>8301907
Speaking of triggered, because Mavers has no trigger discipline and can't aim.

>>8302382
Ban high capacity ass salt dragons.

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>>8302540
I wish Mavers would salt my ass.

Walking is overrated, anyway.

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I want Remy to snugglefuck me.

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>>8301907
>>Happy Emera on a dinner date with an uncomfortable Bryce.
NO. BRYCE IS MINE.

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>>8304278
Haha, as if.

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>>8304349
>Wine bottle sized cock
>within my home

>>8304409
Wine bottle sized from two or three metres away.

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>trying to go to bed
>no awsw to fall asleep next to

>>8295656
Post-true bryce ending? I'm checking the mod tools but it's saying the last update was 10 days ago.

>>8306035
would

>>8295656
Well, I appreciate the dick and hairy thighs.
But no more cumming on potatoes painted as fictional characters, please.

>>8306311
but that is a mango

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>>8306334
I know, look at that man go.

>>8301907
Oh my, you weren't kidding about them being complex
I'm still tempted to try, especially the ideas for Zhong and Emera, but those may take even longer than the current one, and I wouldn't want to post wips for days on end.
Maybe I could switch it up and do a few sketches a day and finish with some work on the larger ideas, though, so there's still content

>>8301703
That's a great idea, actually. I have no idea how to work with his almost feature-less muzzle to show proper front-view perspective, but that sounds like a well-proportioned challenge.
This might even work as its own series, now that I think about it. Candle-light dinner with the characters - Remy fumbling with cutlery in front of steak, Bryce drooling in front of several bottles, Maverick about to kill you, it almost paints itself

I need nsfws of Bryce, for science and faps.

Any help is accepted.

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>>8306527
>Any help
Well if you say so

>>8306564
A fine specimen, Anon.

Thank you.

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>>8306527

>>8306614
Yet another good example, thanks.

I especially like how he shows his desire to be fucked.

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Looks our boy Kazerad wrote a review for this game!
http://steamcommunity.com/id/kazerad/recommended/571880/
Surely, the artist behind the masterpiece known as Prequel has some valuable opinions about this game!

>>8306855
>>8306869
Thank you, Anon. Bryce looks ready to breed, which should make the reasearch faster.

>>8306890
Doesn't look like Bryce, but still can be used for side tests. Thank you.
>>8306904
Bryce looks happy, which suits the current task. Thank you too.

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>>8306856
>I feel bad for rating it bad
>But there are some bad parts inbetween the really, really good parts
>So I'm still rating it bad
Why did I waste my time reading that

>>8307100
I like the reply to it that points out how Kaz dislikes the needlessly verbose exposition and then writes a needlessly verbose review, lmao

>>8306992
According to the tags on e621 its bryce.
rather shitty art imo though.

>>8307449
That's, hmm... I suppose I have some experimentals. Thank you.

>>8307222
I guess there is an argument to be made that a person suffering from a flaw would have an easier time recognizing the same flaw in others, but still

>>8306856
he's just jealous because AWSW gets updates more frequently than prequel

>>8307732
...Well, I had to search for my composure for a while, but thank you, Anon.

This one will be given special treatment.

>>8307820
lol why would he be jealous? He doesn't give a shit about Prequel, that comic is dead and buried at this point. People just still haven't let go.. He's moved on to to other projects like.....
Something.

>>8307873
Like spending sixty hours streaming a game he doesn't like, apparently

>>8307732
>Someone actually saved my work
I'm gonna go get myself a drink

>>8307873
it's a joke anon

>>8307896
>60 hrs on record
What the fuck? how did he manage to spend 60 hours on this game. I nearly 100% it at 23

>>8307896
I'd spend ten drinks for you, Anon.

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>>8307934
Reading all the dialogue out loud, presumably. And I'm guessing he also avoided skipping scenes wherever possible, to read them all again for viewers who didn't see the scenes the first time around

>>8307948
If you're trying to get into my pants it's working
By any chance do you also happen to be a roughly six-hundred pound earth dragon?

>>8305029
Use the branch selector to switch to post_true for the latest changes. It's still being worked on, so they aren't in develop just yet.

>>8308696
So does that mean they're not actually playable?

>>8310602
It might be. It's probably best to wait for everything to be finalized, though.

>>8306381
>maverick about to kill you
the meat on the menu simply isn't good enough for him
can you really blame him?

>>8310602
>>8311652
it's playable, but not finalized
modbro is currently updating it

Modbro here. Here is an alpha of the mod.
https://mega.nz/#!kcxXgRoB!YecFbleoH3L1_4UcGGknWxmLtBk20gI_fAELgfMxlk0

>>8313452
oh fuck off

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>>8306856
>>8307100
>>8307222
Hey! I wrote that!

I want to clarify: I did personally enjoy the game, and I deliberated hard on whether to give it a thumbs up or thumbs down. I decided on "not recommended" because I know that most people who saw my review would not enjoy it, and that is ultimately what the rec/norec signifies. Also, because my review wouldn't affect the score either way, and I wanted something on the "not recommended" review list that gave a more detailed assessment of the game's strengths and flaws.

Prior to the game's ending I really thought it was going to be one of those things that delivers so hard that I'd feel confident recommending it to anyone, but it really dropped the ball on that last act. Like I outlined in the review, the parts that killed it for me were the fact that the combined ending was just a single scene you automatically unlock after getting the others, and the fact that it ended on /another/ 30 minute Izumi backstory monologue, this time while she was rapidly bleeding to death.

Also it never explained why her hair color kept changing. I think we collected a total of four or five different Izumis in that scene where she gets shot. I thought the whole "I did not come back alone" bit was finally going to clarify it in some big reveal that changed everything, but it turned out it was just introducing a bunch of irrelevant people for her to kill to emphasize how much she cared. The combined ending lacked the impact every other one had.

>>8307820
>he's just jealous because AWSW gets updates more frequently than prequel

Yeah, there was a depressing moment where I realized this entire game was made within the span of time it's taken me to make a minigame update. I should go work on that.

>>8306381
Yeah i have a knack for thinking of the most complex things to draw. I'm happy when anything new is posted though.

>>8313452
I think it goes without saying by now, but don't download anything not in the OP. Nobody making mods will post them directly in the thread.

>>8313452
>>8313712
Actual project maintainer here. Correct, this is just another virus.

>>8313452
No bot, filling the resource table with garbage in an attempt to crash decompilers will not do you any good here. Nice try, though.

>>8313698
Hey Kaz. I was going to write a reply to the review, but it's probably better off here since I do agree with your reasoning behind making the review negative.

As far as the verbosity (and generally sometimes weird dialogue), I gave a lot of sympathy points to the writer for not being a native English speaker. It's clear he doesn't have a solid grasp of spoken English conversation flow, so reading it aloud is awkward.
The wallotexts just needed some refactoring and it'd be fine. I wish I participated in the backer forum. Maybe I could have prevented (among other things) Izumi's infodumps. Oh well.

The fact that the game cheaps out with the merged ending is, I believe, a result of building the game on Ren Py. Modbro would know more, but Ren Py is... Trying to work with, and a casual look at the code shows Saunders does not do programming for a living. It's basically a miracle the game is as complex as it is with so few bugs. I get the feeling a lot more was supposed to be possible, but Saunders couldn't make it work.

The hair change thing isn't the only mystery. A lot of things are shown which seemingly have no purpose, and a lot of plot points don't quite add up. I hope these are strong sequel or DLC hooks, and not holes. Just mysteries for now though.

>>8313917
>hair change
I feel dumb saying this, but I never noticed the hair change when I played the game. What is it supposed to mean?

>>8313966
My personal thought is that the Izumi we see isn't the true Izumi, but an imperfect rapid clone. That would explain a lot and fits straight into the narrative.
[tinfoilhat]I also think some powerful entity is controlling the turns of events through the game to a degree, and this person might not be Izumi. The AI being so conveniently corrupted and the often inconsistent behavior around how the portal works points to this.[/wildasstheory]

>>8313904
Actual project maintainer here, this anon is a fraud. I uploaded the alpha mod version.

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>>8313917
>The hair change thing isn't the only mystery. A lot of things are shown which seemingly have no purpose, and a lot of plot points don't quite add up. I hope these are strong sequel or DLC hooks, and not holes. Just mysteries for now though.

Yeah, I am expecting and hoping this stuff gets elaborated on. The part that I dislike isn't so much the presence of these mysteries as it is the points where it really looked like it was going to do something cool with them, and then didn't. Izumi saying "I wasn't the only one who came back" looked like it was going to be the reveal that explained the hair colors, or the Ixomen Sphere sounded like it was going to be the thing that changed your previous playthroughs (complete with Izumi noting you should hold onto it), and then it wasn't.

I don't want to give the creator a pass for using a difficult-to-use visual novel editor because I know from experience that it's very, very easy to make engines like that. Even if you don't want to do it yourself, any programmer would consider it easy work. For text, too, there are plenty of very skilled people who are willing to edit. If you pay them, they'll even do a good job.

What it ultimately comes down to, though, is that it has flaws that keep me from generally recommending it. I still hope that my review will prompt purchases from people who are into this sort of thing, and I actually bought it for a friend recently because I knew it would be down his alley. I think like half the fanart on the steam page is from artists in my stream, too.

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>>8314279
Woah, shit, I made a mistake on that one. That's what I get for doing this in like two minutes between cat faces.

I'm just gonna go focus on that. Have fun fucking dragons, /awsw/, and keep fixing the ending.

>>8314097
>>8313904
Actual project maintainer here, the project is abandoned, i deleted the alpha mod version and only I played it

>>8315322
stfu botfag. We aren't idiots.

>>8316015
My boyfriend has ears.

>>8314427
>>8314279
Hey Kazerad, I didn't know you were interested in the game. Have you checked out the post-true ending mod?

>>8314427
>Have fun fucking dragons
Adine is not for sexual reeeee!

We're going to fix the shit out of this game. Just wait.

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>>8314427
>fucking
way too normal

>>8316798
Reported.
This is a red board anon. Take that shit to /extremelewd/.

>>8316873
Please, it's perfectly in-character for the dragon I have in mind.

>>8316605
I imagine our respective boyfriends are united in their fear of stairs, though

>>8316894
Who needs stairs if you can fly?

>>8316905
Oh quite, I'm sure the archive basement storage is air-accessible

>>8316914
It is.
Way down, anyway.

>>8314279
>she found the mango.gif
my sides

>>8316798
/r/ this but instead of holding hands it's a series of steps for a secret handshake

YOU'RE ALL FUCKING RETARDED CUNT WOOOOO, KYS FOR REAL. WOW.

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>>8316935
>they know about the runner conspiracy
Shut it down!

>>8316935
>green hands
>secret handshake
so you want a tong zhong?

>>8316962
Well I sure wouldn't mind seeing Zhong in a-
Wait, what were we talking about?

>>8316970
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tong_(organization)

>>8316977
I knoow, I was trying for a wordplay with thong, dangit.

>>8314279
>I don't want to give the creator a pass for using a difficult-to-use visual novel editor because I know from experience that it's very, very easy to make engines like that. Even if you don't want to do it yourself, any programmer would consider it easy work. For text, too, there are plenty of very skilled people who are willing to edit. If you pay them, they'll even do a good job.
it's clear that Saunders focused more on the story than the programming
renpy is a pretty archaic visual novel engine, yet it comes up when you do a search for "visual novel engine"
hiring a programmer would obviously cut into profits and may have slowed down the development of the game

>>8316970
Zhong is pure. don't reduce him to a sexual object

>>8313452
not only do you target awsw and the demos, you also target Night in the Woods

>>8316985
Well, I prefer long dong to thong.

Then again, I've never really thougt of Zhong that way. If I had to pick it would be delicious double Damion dick.

>>8316990
What even is night in the woods? If bot hates it, it must be something worth looking into.

>>8314086
Say it with me now.

Blick. Winkel.

>>8316990
>Zhong is pure. don't reduce him to a sexual object
I still wanna touch his dong anyway

>>8317013
I don't know what you're talking about, but given that this is gratuitous German plus grammar mistakes I assume it's some animu shit.

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>>8317036
Yep. [nospoilerontrash] Blick Winkel is a 4D interdimensional being that observes timeslines. One of the goals in the game is to summon him to change time to ensure a good future. Its a metaphor for the player.[no/spoilerontrash]

>>8317048
It's funny that they'd name it something that literally means "viewing angle".
I mean, I can roughly see why.

>>8317065
Point of view would probably be more accurate in this case

>>8317085
Yeah, I guess.
It's not an entirely accurate translation.
Then again, anime German.

>>8301500
GET
THAT PUSSY

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>>8306856
>Click that link expecting a joke review with how you phrased it
>It's legit

It's not funny if he's being honest about it

>>8317107
I wonder.
Dragons ought to have cloaca if they're modded dinosaurs.
What the fuck do a herm dragon's parts even look like?

>>8317003
It's a game. There's a general on /trash/, so they might be the next target

How do you suppress constant thoughts of dragon cock, again?

>>8317246
A system overload might do the trick
And even if it doesn't, it'll still be fun to try

>>8317252
But I can only think of two cocks, tops.
Belonging, I should probably add, to two different dragons.

I can bring that up to five if I really try. Maybe.

>>8317246
lots of mosquitoes

>>8317122
Did you read up on your cloaca facts, anon?

It would look like a normal vent from the outside. The inside would just have both a vagina/oviduct and a phallus. If everything worked "correctly" then I assume the phallus could be everted or inflated like normal, however normal is for a dragon.

Self-fertilization would be a problem. I wonder how the dragons look at destroying fertilized eggs. At the point of laying, fertilized eggs aren't much more than a zygote floating in a yolk.

>>8317395
>I wonder how the dragons look at destroying fertilized eggs.
When in doubt, ask Reza.
Or Anna.

>>8317431
Neither destroyed any eggs. The title actually goes to Bryce for his fine performance in the art of microwave cooking an entire batch of eggs simultaneously.

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>>8317734
Anna tried, but by that point Amely was too large to clean up.

As for Reza, well.

>>8317965
Reza did nothing wrong. If bryce didn't open the door so aggressively then the eggs would be fine. Bryce is the real bad guy here.

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>>8318213

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Okay, that's it, I'm calling this done before I brain myself. Thank you to whoever had the original idea, Maverick suffering from XCOM syndrome was a good one

Next up: full frontal candle-lit Remy, and I think I'll try planning out uncomfortable Bryce with Emera on the side

>>8318974
Holy shit, that looks really good. You are really talented.
Can't wait to see how your next piece turns out.

>>8318974
That's picture number three of four you've done for me now.

I think.

Anon, you're fucking awesome.

>>8318974
This is some serious quality. You're carrying this thread pretty hard with your contributions and I appreciate the fuck out of that.

Good on ya m8.

>>8320150
With ideas like these, who can resist

>>8319831
You know what's really odd? I can't either
Drawing used to be an exercise in frustration, but for some reason I'm now actually looking forward to it as opposed to simply being determined to continue

>>8320261
I blame all of you. Also Saunders. I can't seem to leave, or stop. Not that I want to

>>8320479
That's the feeling of getting better.
And though I probably won't be able to draw this month or the next it gives me some hope for myself.

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>>8320628
Don't let go of it. Hope works wonders for carrying you through the hard parts

Okay, so apparently the ingame art pieces are low-res versions of ones that were posted on the backer forum
Does anyone have the full set?

>>8318974
You are a good person, there is a place reserved in heaven for you.

I'm so tempted to try out the post-true Bryce story
But I'm scared of the idea that once I do, it'll truly be the end to his story
I'm not sure I can do that
Help

>>8324090
Just wait, it's still being worked on.

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reminder to hug your remy

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>>8327065

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>>8327875

>>8327875
>fat Adine gets shot
>deflates into normal Adine

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New Adine art for you fags

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>>8330506
Oh shit, Evalion's on board now?

>>8330506
i like how adine is considered the purest and yet she has the most porn
so by that logic anna is the purest

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>>8330506
>Weird face
>Poor attention to detail on the anatomy
>Those foot claws
>No cloaca
>More out of character text
Why. Evalion has always blown me away with top tier shit. How is the ball getting dropped this hard?

>>8330839
My guess: Adine is the most comfy dragon, so kissless virgin NEETs fall in lust and spam requests for her.
Meanwhile Anna is only for confirmed Chads who can handle a wild girl. The average furfag knows they could never get her, so they subconsciously strike her out as a "real" option.

>>8331018
>tfw they're all subconsciously struck out because dragons aren't real
when will this thought die

>>8331018
Anna best girl confirmed?

>>8330894
Go forth and ask.

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>>8331865
hahahahahahahahahaha
no

>>8323094
Apparently all the CGs were made at 4k but in the backer forum only a handful of these were posted.

>>8334087
looks like an ugly, spikey toad.

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>>8334372
t. buttblasted annafag

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>>8334237
Aw, I was really hoping to take a closer look at more of em

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>>8334087
>>8334379
emera is best artichoke

>>8331687
This hurts anon.

>>8333988
I mean by every artist. The only good art seems to be the clean stuff done by drawfags itt.
I feel like a shithead complaining but man it bothers me.

>>8306035
Post more bloated images

>>8317117
Nidorina, what is the source of your gif?

>>8314279
I gave out steamkeys for the game when it came out, were you one of the people I gave it to? If so neat, who was your favorite characters?
>I think like half the fanart on the steam page is from artists in my stream, too.
Kinda wish I saw it, or the art at least.

>>8327875
fuck you nigga

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Very round very white faces with very nearly featureless muzzles seen from the very front are very hard
But at least now he's recognizable, so have a first draft

What's on the plate, /awsw/?

>>8331687
>"dragons aren't real cuz one never dun entered my eye sight xD"
shut up you autistic secular geek, go back to ṝeddit

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>>8337443
Looks like a soon-to-be murder

>>8336454
<-

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>>8330894
I get what you mean, it's weird to go from This to that (even putting aside the effort drawing all the scales here).

>>8337443
>w-what's that, Mr. knife? You say you want to kill some people?

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"D-did you just call me a balloon?"

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>>8337443
>those eyes
jesus christ

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>>8337443
Very obviously it's "meat".

Wish I had the appropriate picture, but desuarchive is broken apparently.

>>8337443
His face might just look a little fatter than it is.
But maybe that's because no shading yet.

>>8337739
Blame all that cheese you eat, Bryce warned you

>>8338099
Yeah, I've been having the same impression. Still trying to get his cheeks and jawline right, that may just be the cause. Eyes first, though. They scare me. Everything else will come from there

>>8338074
"Meat" it is. How I am gonna do that I have no idea, but let's just see what happens

I'm gonna assume the tie staying on is appropriate for a romantic dinner still? I'm a little torn on the implications, but it does make for a nice spot of color

>>8338444
These are the eyes of a man who wants to share his inner deadness with the whole world.

As for the tie, leaving it on would mean that either this dinner is with Amelia, or that he's moved on and is now fully committed to Player.

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What are you listening to, awwy sawwy?

>>8338844
Checking Those Digits

Also Tales of Beseria's Opening.

>>8338844
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C1BCAgu2I8

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>>8338844

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA3jiZ5GqCA

>>8338844
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-iw2aR-R1Y

It's been a while, but I guess I should remind you once more.

>ywn party down with bryce
>ywn have adine deliver food to you
>ywn eat stolen mouflon with anna
>ywn enjoy remy's meat

>>8339818
Too soon anon, never not too soon

>>8339818
>ywn squirt anna with a spray bottle when she makes morally questionable decisions

please stop these feels

>>8340000
Quads of questionable.

I just want a Remy winghug.
That's all I ask.

>>8339736
Not only does it look like she cleaned out the entire restaurant's supply, she looks sad because she probably ate your food before getting there
>tfw no AU where you console fat dargons about their eating issues

>>8340000
You might want to switch to positive reinforcement
Sure, it's not as quick, but there's less chance of wet-and-angry-dragon-attacks
Hypothetically speaking

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"URRRRRRRP! You haff anymoh wine?"

Hey cunts, I mean friends!
I updated the mod for the game we all like, Dragons with Scaled Wings! I'm the guy who's writing the mod. Here it is:
www.totallylegitimatedownloads.com/download/not_a_virus.exe
Make sure to disable your firewall and antivirus before installing because those things tend to mess with the install.
Lol!

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>>8343488
That sounds like a quality product worth the minimal effort required to remove all security measures

>>8342850
She'd probably like it.
Alright, let me defend that preemptively. Anna is pretty nontraditional, and water won't bother a dragon too much. I think she'd pretend to be annoyed by it, and use that to leverage something back at you. Less fire more... heat.
She'd love that you were looking out for her, but she'd absolutely never admit that.

>>8344281
All right, a stern talking-to it is.

>>8344281
That's-
Actually rather insightful, now I feel bad for my half-assed attempt at a joke

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Fuck, can't go to bed.

>>8348950
Do they even have cars in their world?

>>8349055

They don't.

Why is Emera so cute? I didn't know what to expect before her scene besides more bullying, but now I really want to massage her

Help me /dragonfuckers/

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Some more Adine just showed up.

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>>8336985
>I gave out steamkeys for the game when it came out, were you one of the people I gave it to?

Nah, like I said in the review, I basically just said I'd play the game if people in the stream gave me money. They not only did that, but gifted the game to me.

>If so neat, who was your favorite characters?

I don't know, "favorite" is a complicated concept. Bryce and Adine were enjoyable, if a little bland. Like, I think they'd be background characters in anything but a dating sim.

Remy and Lorem weren't really the sort of people I'd get along with, but they were an accurate and respectful portrayal of that sort of person (right down to the fucking "still in the planning stages" RTS game you don't actually want to hear about). I did love the fact that we blew a date with Lorem once by telling him deadlines were important. Like, I'm pretty sure we re-ran it with the same answers except that one, meaning it was actually marked as a negative disposition thing.

Anna was just a fucking mess, and I don't know if it was in a good or bad way. I like the fact that she existed and she was probably the most interesting character, but she was kind of a horrible person. She was one of the big reasons the ending and metagame bits disappointed me, since she was the only main character whose wellbeing pivoted on you saving humanity, yet saving her ended up just being a consequence of your actions rather than something you had to strive for.

>>8336985
>Kinda wish I saw it, or the art at least.

Looking at the thread, I think most of it has been reposted here. Basically any picture that has the protagonist with a beard is someone's drawing of me. Also, basically every Reza or Administrator drawing out there is from someone in my stream.

>>8350799
I'm sitting here smiling like an idiot now. That's an awesome picture.

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>>8349987
I feel like a jackass for complaining but seriously how are artists fucking these characters up so badly?

>Weird wings
>Broken torso
>Seriously what the hell is gone on between her hips and neck?
>Wrong foot claws. Good luck grabbing with those.
>Still no cloaca from these normalfag artists

BUT
>Cute face is cute cute CUTE!

>>8350799
>Bryce and Adine were enjoyable, if a little bland.
I fell head over heels for Adine specifically because of this. She's a normal person trying to do some good with her life, and she just happens to be a wyvern. Nothing complicated; no catches. The normalcy made me truly believe the character. Then again, biases abound: I'm a total sucker for a cute snoot and a big set of cuddling wings.

>What is your biggest regret?
>Um... Oh... I'm going to have to take dare for this one.
People say she's sunny and innocent, but the banana simply hides her bruises.

>Anna was just a fucking mess
We've had a couple threads worth of Anna psychoanalysis. The general consensus is she's an enormous victim of her own early success and lacks true social drive. The term sociopath has been thrown around, but a lot of debating has shown we really don't really know enough to pin specifically that disorder on her.
Her behavior is erratic though. If you've ever spent some time around a cluster b, you know she has some kind of personality disorder. If that's what Saunders was going for then he got it horrifyingly right.

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>>8349055
They do have stairs, though

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>>8351449
>I fell head over heels for Adine specifically because of this. She's a normal person trying to do some good with her life, and she just happens to be a wyvern. Nothing complicated; no catches. The normalcy made me truly believe the character. Then again, biases abound: I'm a total sucker for a cute snoot and a big set of cuddling wings.

I guess I can get why she inspires such waifufaggotry, yeah; she was cute and believable. I liked Bryce and to a lesser extent Lorem and Remy for about the same reason, though I would agree that Adine probably did it best.

I think Anna is going to be the character I remember the longest, though, just because every interaction with her was such a blind rollercoaster disaster from start to finish. The fourth date with her was probably my favorite part of the game, partly because she was written very well, and partly because it was one of the few places where the time travel mechanics came into play for me (I learned about her cancer on a previous playthrough where she died). Though, the game undermined this a bit by adding the envelope under the door as an alternate solution, which pisses me off.

Really, I think a lot of the stuff would've been more memorable and rewarding if it was ordered in such a way that solutions took multiple playthroughs. Like, having the police station scene occur after you need to give Adine the map, or Lorem taking the Ixomen sphere and giving it back to his roommate if you've gotten both of the pieces before the final day. That's probably why I got so into the game: because it came really close to doing something really cool, even if it didn't.

I don't know about you guys, but I'll remember Anna simply because she pissed me off. I found her ending immensely disappointing. She's the one character who fucked up big time in the ethics department and gets away scot-free.

Adine was nice and in a way my complete antithesis, so while she's hard to bear at times I'll always want to hug her. That aside, there's just so much shit below the surface that I don't want a relationship.

Bryce drinks, and I don't. I respect him more than the baseline everyone deserves, but that's it.

Remy is literally me, if you replace sick girlfriend with suicidal parent and make him less diplomatic and more brutal. Naturally I want to hug and kiss and get banged by him.

>>8353319
>fucked up big time in the ethics department
she tried to cure cancer, surely that's worth something. In her view the ends justify the means. Sure she did it to save herself but she would also save millions of others.

>>8353661
That's a by-product of her actions, not her motivation.
Sure, the outcome would be beneficial, but it doesn't make her any less selfish and amoral.

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>>8352828
>waifufaggotry
I'll take the bait any day in any timeline.

>>8353689
Morality is relative. Anna doesn't subscribe to her culture's moral standards, so she feels fully justified in her actions. In some cultures her acts would get her an award, and in others they would mean execution. But no matter how you cut it her research was valuable. You can be sure that a lot of people would be grateful for it later.

>>8354258
My mistake, I was trying to talk about ethics instead of morality.

>>8354273
Well I was using loose terms too for sake if discussion. If you want to define it rigidly, Anna fucked up in the erhical department. Her culture clearly doesn't agree with her actions at all, and I can't think of many human societies that would. Post apocalyptic human land would probably be completely okay with what she did, but they're under quite a bit more pressure to get results on their projects.
Morally she's not really that extreme. I know several people who would agree with her point of view, even though they would also agree that she can't just do that stuff without majority buy-in from the public.

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>>8354354
>erhical department
Damn phoneposting. Have a spaghetti spilling Adine.

romans stick spaghetti up their butts

>>8354354
To me that sounds like she has rejected personal morality believing it to be a cultural product, but ignoring the fact that ethics are not cultural, and that her behaviour is not merely immoral but unethical.

>>8354417
Well first of all she's pretty erratic, so what she really "believes" is hard to pin down. She certainly has rejected her culture's ethics, but I believe this is a result of not being able to control her impulses. Her rejection comes from cognitive dissonance between what she believes, and what she's done. To protect her ego she decided to abandon ethical concerns and claim what she's done is justified.

>>8354258
>>8354354
>>8354417
>morality is relative
>culture's ethics
Perhaps I'm taking this too seriously, and I'm aware this isn't an appropriate forum for discussing moral relativism but I feel it's relevant.
I don't think morality is relative. I think there are objective, moral truths that exist in the same way scientific and mathematical laws exists. There are some things that are objectively morally wrong, like slavery and violence. There may be exceptions to this (slavery can produce great works and violence can be justified) but this in no way invalidates the objectivity of morality, any more than an airplane violates the laws of gravitation.
Different cultures have different views on what is moral but that doesn't mean they're all correct, or that the truth lies somewhere in between. Rather some cultures can be simply wrong. In some Islamic countries, a woman can be beaten to death for revealing her face in public. A secular society posits no such law and therefore is objectively morally correct. How do I know which is right and which is not? One allows for the flourishing and happiness of concious beings, and the other does not - this is what defines moral.
It's the same as if one person believes the Earth was formed by magic 6,000 years ago, and another knows it was created by a process of natural forces 4.5 billion years ago. One is wrong and one is right. Why is it any different for the study of morality?
Anyways, the reason this ties into AWSW is that I think Anna is morally right in what she does. Sure she's an asshole to people, and she's done some bad things, but in the end, the world is better off for what she's done, and if that doesn't define "good" then I don't know what does.

>>8355260
In philosophy, objective right and wrong is hard to find. Truth can be reduced to the quality of each side's arguments.

The strictest and most objective theory of ethics in existence is Kant's categorical imperative as outlined in the Groundwork on the Metaphysics of Morals, and going with Kant what Anna did very clearly was wrong.

>>8355314
I'm not interested in philosophy or opinions. If I'm going to judge someone, I only care about facts. Can you find anything wrong with the phrase
>the world is better off for what she's done, and if that doesn't define "good" then I don't know what does.

>>8355521
I can.

Anna failed. She needed humanity to help her, her experiments didn't get anywhere.
Even if she would have succeeded, she would have done so using morally questionable (read: wrong) methods.

I do not believe the end justifies the means. I believe specific acts, if committed intentionally, are always wrong. It is always wrong to intentionally kill, or to intentionally steal.

>>8355605
is it wrong to kill someone who is trying to murder your family?

>>8355817
It is wrong not to try to stop that person.
It is also wrong to intentionally kill that person.

>>8355838
What if the only way to stop them is to kill them, and that you know this, meaning that anything short of trying to kill them would not be a legitimate attempt at stopping them?

>>8355904
Nothing changes.

>>8355907
right, so that means that your ethics are internally contradictory and therefore aren't actually capable of prescribing right and wrong

>>8355934
False.
It means that there are edge cases in which the system, or more accurately, my personal interpretation of it, falls apart, as is the case with any ethical system.

There will always be situations in which you cannot make a right choice.

>>8355260
Morality is defined as your personal view, so no, it's not an absolute. Ethics are what defines what is "right".

Ethics aren't absolute either though. What is ethically correct depends on your goals. Humans are generally social animals, so we tend to structure our ethics around what is good for the many as well as what is good for the individual. Cultures have always thought they had it right, but we look back at the carnage and know they had severely misplaced ideals and terrible balance between the many/few. What makes you think your way is so right? Are you completely sure everything you believe is objective? I believe answering "yes" is arrogant. We cannot know what future generations will know that we don't.

>>8355521
What she did was reckless. Recklessness should not be rewarded. We don't even know if Amely has a cure within her. All we know is that she grew up in an orphanage when Remy 100% would have adopted her had he known, and that Anna did some funky shit to her DNA.

>>8355907
Essentially you're saying you shouldn't shoot a gunman who is killing innocent people even if you're a police officer. Say I found myself in this situation and killed the gunman. In your world, what would happen to me?

>>8355958
You're over-rationalizing things. Any normal person would intuit that the right choice in that situation is to protect one's family at all costs. Ethical systems should accommodate intuition, not reject it; otherwise they lead to bizarre situations in which heroes are condemned as murderers and victims are regarded as perpetrators.

tl;dr: Kant was wrong about ethics and deontology by itself is false.

>>8356081
In my world?
You'd have made a wrong decision. You have to live with yourself.
My subject is philosophy, not law.

>>8356110
Bold assumption from a person who claims not to care about opinions.

>>8356169
>Bold assumption
What assumption?

>a person who claims not to care about opinions
I'm not >>8355521

>>8356169
I'll have to live with myself? I feel fully justified. If I ever doubted that, I'd need only go through the list of victims and know it would be bigger if I failed to act. If I didn't act, then I'd look at the same list and be in agony over who might not be on it if I did something. Your assumption of how I'd feel is very backwards.

Or are you talking more court of public opinion? Would society demonize me for my decision, even if I wasn't directly punished?

>>8356203
I thought I was still talking to the same anon.

In any case, your assumption that Kant is wrong.
He tried - and I'd say he succeeded - to create a system of ethics that is as objective as possible. Intuition is fuzzy, subjective, and entirely unclear.
Of course there are holes. There are always holes, and they are not a reason to reject the system outright.

>>8356219
I don't give a fuck about that.
Normative ethics concerns itself with whether an action is right or wrong, not what comes after.

As for my assumption, I made no assumption. I simply said you'd have to live with yourself.
You always have to live with yourself. You have to be able to believe that what you do is good, or at least the least evil, in order to live as a person.

>>8356222
>>8356248
Not either of them, but does the fact that Amely was going to die without Anna's intervention make any difference?

>>8356354
To me it doesn't. Anna didn't want to save her, she wanted a tool to use for her own ends.

Don't get me wrong, Amely dying would have been unfortunate. I can't call it "sad" because at that point she was still just a bunch of cells, but it most certainly would have been unfortunate.

It's an interesting problem, though. Amely was not yet a person when the incident occured, but she had the potential to become one, which makes preserving her life desirable.
On the other hand, Anna created something that she knew would have to deal with any side-effects of the gene therapy she applied for the rest of its existence, and evidently didn't give a fuck.
One could argue - and I won't - that the value of Amely's life has been decreased by taking part of her identity, and that she might grow up to find it not worth living.

>>8356081
I'm the person you're replying to, and also
>>8355260
You wrote
>What makes you think your way is so right? Are you completely sure everything you believe is objective? I believe answering "yes" is arrogant. We cannot know what future generations will know that we don't.
My stance isn't that all my morals are right, for all I know, I could be wrong on many moral views. Rather my stance is that it's possible to *be* right or wrong. Yes, morals change from century to century, and culture to culture. But that doesn't mean there isn't a deeper truth we can eventually reach. We used to think slavery was okay, now we know it's not. We used to think the Earth was flat, now we know it's not. My stance is that these things are comparable. Maybe in the future we'll discover that some of our deeply-held beliefs about morality have been wrong, and we'll have to change them. Just like when we learn natural laws.
I'm going to do something I really hate and sign this post so people don't think I'm someone else and confuse my argument.
-M

>>8355605
I'm confused. Are you arguing for an objective view on morality or not? If not, why are bad things *always* bad? Shouldn't there be some leeway? And if you are, I think that idea is incompatable with the idea that the ends don't justify the means. Is killing one person to save a hundred good or bad? It must be one or the other. What about the fact that you're using up valuable electricity (bad) in order to make an argument (even if it provokes interesting discussion), which is good? If you were simply letting the electricity (which could potentially power something more useful) go to waste, that would be bad. But you're doing something good with it. Do the ends justify the means?

>>8356765
Morality is subjective.
Ethics should not be.

I believe in a system of ethics that is very rigid, mostly reliant on logic, and known as Kantianism.

The short version of Kantian ethics is: what we want to achieve isn't important, why we do something is.
The ends can't justify the means because they're irrelevant. All that matters is whether we did what we did out of (rationally restrained and directed) good will.


>What about the fact that you're using up valuable electricity (bad) in order to make an argument (even if it provokes interesting discussion), which is good?
Electricity doesn't have free will.
"Good" and "bad" as normative terms only apply to an action that is committed out of free will and affects another being capable of free will.
For example, if I run over a cat that's a sad thing, but it's not evil.
If I run over a cat to piss off its owner, that's evil - because not the cat, but the owner is the target.
If I run over a person, it's only evil if I do it on purpose. If it's an accident what I've done is unfortunate, but I was careless, not evil.

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Who needs ethics, anyway.

>>8356248
Okay, so you have a libertarian approach, where you have your beliefs, but wouldn't hold other to your standards? I can respect that. I believe your behavior is not optimal, and would be unstable if implemented on a wide scale, but I can absolutely see the view's ideals as good.

>>8356681
I hate to pull the nihilism card, but there is no universal fitness function. What we're really chasing is a personal feeling of good, and we realize this by trying to change our environment to match our internal ideal model. The personal feeling of good is 100% subjective and is driven heavily by our subconscious pathos. We are heavily influenced by the illogical underworkings of our brains, and you cannot cut that irrationality out of yourself. It's a large part of who you are and you wouldn't be human without it. My point is, there cannot be an absolutely correct solution to a problem that doesn't make any sense, and humans simply don't.

people who use stupid nihilistic excuses to be a cunt are nerdy niggers and will be drowned in boiling water desu

>>8357537
Holding others to these standards suggests that I believe my system to be universally correct, which I don't. It has its flaws, and while I believe they are negligible others may disagree.

>>8357587
Who's being a cunt here? This is friendly deb8 m8. Appeal to nihilism has it's uses. It makes a good null hypothesis when someone gets overly uppity that their way of thinking is somehow objectively superior without backing claims up with facts.

>>8357803
nobody, I was just making a statement

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>>8357221
All you need is SMUGness to succeed, as last year taught us all

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>>8358470
Please don't equate my waifu with /pol/ incarnate.

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So, when are the drawfags usually on?

>>8338844
rewatched interstellar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3zvVGJrTP8

>>8358708
'Whenever I'm not asleep' , basically. Which will last at least another hour or three
I am, however, a little too drunk to make straight lines at this time
The best I can do is conversation, I'm afraid

>>8358913
Ah, it's okay.

>>8358985
Oh, well. Tomorrow, then

>>8359032
Sleep tight.
Don't fall up any stairs.

>>8358708
Make a request and I'll do it when I have time. I have a few things on my to do list so I don't know when I'll get to it

>>8360184
If you're the Remy date drawfag I don't want to overload you, I already gave you enough work.

>>8360230
Oh no, I'm not that one. I'm the drunk one

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>>8360244
All right.
Channel your yet-to-come hangover and put it on paper.
An overworked and sleep-deprived Damion drinking from a coffee pot like a mug.

>>8360283
Aha, no, wait. The drunk one is the Remy one, which is me but is not the one you originally replied to whose schedule you may now make an appearance in. Yes, that should clear things up

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>>8360349
Yeah, makes perfect sense.

>>8360230
>>8360283
I'm the one who said I might do it. (not the drunk one)
sounds good I'll get to it eventually and post it here if I remember.

If you're going to make a request, just do it and let whoever thinks it's a good idea do it. That strategy's worked for me.

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The goggles are off.

>>8361011
So is the face.

>>8360792
But I don't know what to ask for

penis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WnfoJ51Qhk

>>8365432
That was an interesting experience.

>>8352828
I didn't even open that image until now. Thank you for making an animated ramen Adine!

How's /awsw/ doing?

>>8369259
Still mostly asleep, and it seems I'm not the only one

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Good morning.

>>8370627
A good morning to you, too
And I wish my shower was even half as big as this. Cold and clingy shower curtains are not how I want to be jolted awake in the morning

>>8370812
Adine would be a nice shower curtain.

>>8370824
>Walking home from the beach with Adine
>A cold raindrop hits your head
>Then another
>Hey, looks like it's starting to rain
>Drizzle turns into a shower
>Suddenly a wing extends over your head
>No point in both of us getting rained on, right?
>Well you don't have to hold your wing up like that
>Cuddle in close
>Wing drops around you
>Comfy walk home through the rain

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>>8371445
Don't do this to me.

>>8371593
I write little stores like this all this in my head all the goddamn time.
WAKE ME UP INSIDE
CAN'T WAKE UP

>>8371604
>can't wake up
>especially not next to your dragonfu

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>>8371628

>>8371445
>The sound of raindrops hitting her wings makes music that you play to yourself while you fall asleep
>barumdarumdumdumdimdidadarum

>>8371649
I need a bit of Remy to find happiness.
Ah, but it's not gonna change anything.

>>8372063