What would /trash/ do as a job in space? I feel I'd end

Probably either cafeteria worker or janitor.

>>8059857
Neat. Naturally attracted to that line of work, or just your best guess?

Janny boy

>Be a spess janitor
>Wax the beautiful-ass floors
>Wear cool suits to clean the windows of accumulated bullshit
>Replace the sunlight emulator bulbs
>Get stung in the neck and absorbed
>Hit on cute alien girls since my body is fit from cleanin work

>>8059710
SPACE
PIRATE
I'd jack a ship from someone who left the keys in the ignition like a tard, something with weapons so I can take out other ships and begin hoarding that shit until I find a place to sell it, rinse and repeat until I have a bigger ship and a crew, then we go looking for ways to obtain immortality so we can keep on keepin on with our pirating ways forever.

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>>8060105
>join starflight academy
>fuckyes.mp4
>graduate with full honors + scholarship pays for a kickstart to my own cargo shipping company
>first day on the job, making a delivery stop in a bad part of the system
>mfw i accidentally leave my cryptocard in the cockpit and some jackass steals my freighter

Joke's on you, that only ruined my career for 13 years

>>8060262
That's what you get for leaving your card in the cockpit, you learned after that didn'tcha?

>>8059910
Best guess. I'm not good at much and I presume there won't be a need for accountants in the future.

>>8060475
Iunno, accounting would probably explode trying to keep track of every spaceflight expense and manufacturing costs. That is, if it isn't done by large solar computer farms orbiting Saturn or somewhere

>>8060776
yeah I'd assume there's automation for a lot of that shit

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>>8059710
Space diaper changer or something

Spess muhraine or like a trucker or something and maybe stumble across an AI, preferably in a giant robot, to accompany me like muh animoo.

Work at a cafe...in space

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>>8059710
Electronics or fiber optics technician. Unless we discover some new and exciting ways of transferring information and power over long distances in the incredible world of tomorrow. In which case I'd go back to college to learn how those new systems work, and then get a job in those.

There's also a risk that automation will have replaced all that kind of technical skills requirement, in which case I'd use programming as a back up. And if robots have also taken over there, then all hope is lost and we better just sign up for social welfare.

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>>8069239
Internal station communications probably would use fiber optics, but station to station would be something similar to SATCOM I'd guess. Just oversized and overpowered cellphone antennas, if you think about it.

Whatever lets me shoot at things

>>8060105
Can I be in your robot space pirate crew?

>>8060105
Shit yeah, I'm with ya! Then we'll fuck that Samus chick up with some TUUUUUUBES!

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SPACE SPY!

Or Sean Connery with a Space Shotgun.

>Take geology in Mars colony in Curiosity University
>Graduate
>Get a job in planetary exploration team
>Pretty much just controlling drones spread all over a newly discovered planet for mineral contents and shit
>Good job, good pay, comfy as fuck

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>>8074215
Conglomerates Amalgamated>Weyland-Yutani

Game show host to the most brutal bloodsport

>>8077630
thunderdome: space edition?

>>8059710
I'd work at space Walmart. Y'know, sell some space chips, help some people down the space halls, get some sexual space favors. That kind of stuff.

>>8075096
High mortality rate tho

>>8077651
In an abandoned mining facility

Whatever lets me fuck cute ayy girls

I couldnt choose. But, my ideas: Scrapyard planetoid worker, Archivist, Cerberus politics cell representative.
And if all else fails: Genocide.

>>8059710
>tfw I'll be a NEET even in space

>>8059710
I'd like to do something in the cloning business.
I'd probably get something in the janitorial business.
>tfw no qt3.14 ayy lmao waifu to live with in mars colony

>>8060038
One of these things it not like the other...

I'd pilot a fighter, because eyesight doesn't matter in space so my need for glasses doesn't fuck me!
Probably join a pirate crew and steer the ship if I wasn't in a fighter though

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I don't think I'd be able to escape the fate of me being tech support technician even in space

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Is getting paid to satisfy needy alien housewives a job?

>>8059710
Whatever the fuck it is Lt. Barclay does.

>>8086382
Tech support

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>>8080676
>>8075096

"Outland" is my favorite vision of the future. Grim, but in a very plausible way that doesn't feel angsty and try-hard.

I hate the "Everything Is An I-Pod" future depictions. Give me the shot-to-hell, lived-in future.

"They sent me here to this pile of shit because they think I belong here. I want to find out if... well if they're right. There's a whole machine that works because everybody does what they are supposed to. And I found out... I was supposed to be something I didn't like. That's what's in the program. That's my rotten little part in the rotten machine. I don't like it. So I'm going to find out if they're right."

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>>8086483
I like Outland mostly because it's an unofficial movie set in the Alien universe, same set designers as the original film, etc.

I'm a turbonerd for that universe, and Outland was always good because I always wanted an Alien movie without, well, the alien. It's my favorite future too, no "Magical Space device that improves quality of life" stuff in it.

>>8086483
This vision of the future was pretty normal when the movie was made, I think. A lot of it was spurred on by the Cold War, of course. I've been reading some oldschool SF, mostly from the 60's, and there's a lot of post-apocalyptic and dystopian themes in there.

The Ipod future seems almost as recent an interpretation as the Ipod itself. Star Trek was very unusual in the 60's for being as optimistic as it was, and even it predicted WWIII. I recently read a very interesting post someone made about Star Trek, and the type of SF it represents: The gist of it was, we were better than the people in Star Trek. We never blew ourselves up in a nuclear war. But never experiencing that tabula rasa state, we also never turned into the "better" people we see in the typical spires & toga's "enlightened" future.

I think the Ipod future only really became a thing when it became clear we weren't going to blow ourselves up. People reasoned we'd just mainstream into the Trek future more swiftly. Except it's looking like we won't, because there's always another threat looming on the horizon. It's funny how some of that 60's SF still seems very relevant, despite its nuclear assumption never happening. One story I read cast the US as the bad guy, trying to oppress the entire world, in something that seemed very reminiscent of how modern insurgents might hopelessly fight US forces. Except these guys were Brits. And a lot of these writers worried about overpopulation and environmental degredation. Frankly, some of their nightmares aren't too different from our current reality.

>>8086549
What Outland and Alien do well is presenting this image of the hopeless working class... in space. They use science fiction themes to highlight the way working a normal job is part of a larger structure. One that will, or already is stiffing you for concerns you don't give a damn about.

Kind of simple, but well realized. Alien just added a horrible dick monster to it all for some extra oomph. In comparison Outland's plot is kind of banal. Not bad, mind you, but kind of forgettable. Though it does have Sean Connery, which is nice.

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I'd be IT
>Enlist on a spacer cargo/privateering vessel outfitted for shipping and mercenary work
>Slightly riskier than some of the jobs I could get but higher pay and more interesting
>Make sure all the computer software is up to date and do the usual troubleshooting shit for a few months
>Convince the captain that it's too risky to run our ship using standard hardware filled with corporation spyware and Terran government backdoors
>Get him to replace all the hardware with custom-built machines to my specifications
>Ruthlessly purge any closed source software out of paranoia and find or write good alternatives to manage various ship systems
>Become the most secure and hardest to track vessel in space
>Start programming some basic AI in my free time to use the guns that aren't being actively operated by personnel
>Once everything is more or less in order, lock myself in the server room to play vidya, jack off, and shitpost while pretending to be doing important server stuff
>Jack one of the hot androids from engineering and register it in use as a "technical labor assistant"
>Reprogram it as a sex bot to lick my cum up off the floor and give me blowjobs and shit
Living the life

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>>8085806
anna is just a klutz, she really needs help cleaning

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>>8059710

Creepy xeno-loving pervert.

>>8087472
Why are women so shitty at carrying yoghurt without spilling it all over themselves? That'd be my job, carrying the yoghurt at diplomatic functions where alien ladies are present.

It's a very important and prestigious occupation.

Viscera Cleanup Detail is pretty fun.

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>>8087823
Can you blame them though? It's delicious, I hear.
Fuckin' alien yoghurt, man, alien chicks dig the stuff.

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>>8086656

Truthfully I feel what held "Outland" back was the "High Noon" story structure. I just didn't buy that the plot dynamics would be the same.

Also the hitmen were anti-climatic, for all they were built up to be.

It's no accident Montone is my favorite character, because his allegiance is unclear.

>get hired with some mom and pop security outfit
>paid to be a warm body holding a gun for 16 hours at a time
>make good money and friends working shit shifts out inna deep space

>>8089057
>WSHTF
>Grab SKS and go inna space

Doesn't sound like a bad concept for a science fiction story, to be honest.

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Marine exobiologist.

I'd do a surgery to turn from an average guy to an average girl, then work in an ayyylmao whorehouse.
the dream

>>8083829
We can all do that when we visit space bar and not act like neet

>>8085158
Gunbuster actually depict space dogfight pretty realistic tho. You just sit there inside your cockpit in silence except the hum of engine noise, beeping of alarm sensors and communication with your friend. It's super claustrophobic and panic inducing. You don't even know what hit you, just your ship disintegrated and you got sucked into vacuum of space. You will be lucky if you die instantly if not then you will float in space waiting until the oxygen running out and you got asphyxiated. Sure you can be rescued but space is huge and if your side is losing rescue may never come

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>>8094321
>You don't even know what hit you,
You're right up until this point. Because of the way space works, anything that's anything will be detectable in space. The further away it is, the harder it will be to detect (hence why we struggle to see everything in the solar system from our vantage point here on Earth) but anything within 50,000 miles will be very easy to spot. Spacecrafts with power system will be especially visible (so you can easily spot your enemy before they fire their weapons at you, and thus calculate the trajectory of incoming weapon's fire) but even just cold missiles or bullets will be detectable as they're racing towards you. In a way it's more grim, because you'll see the thing that's about to kill you potentially hours before it hits.

Just as an example, WISE (this thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wide-field_Infrared_Survey_Explorer ) uses modern technology and is able to detect asteroids based on their heat signature. It's able to detect objects warmer than 70 degrees kelvin. That's -300 Fahrenheit (or -200 C). Imagine what the crazy high tech world of the future will be able to do.

>>8088570
>not the person you replied to
I do give it props for at least trying to modernize Space Westerns, without going crazy original in aesthetics like Firefly did.

If nothing else, I put it in the group of "Blue collar universe" movies shared with Alien.

Besides, nowadays those security outfits would be considered tacky and outdated, but I think they're some of the most absolute cash designs ever. Those, along with the Nostromo's crew uniforms massage a strange part of my brain that likes the gaudy overuse of blue and decorative patches on standard apparel.

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>>8089154
>one night working the shit shift in the cargo bay
>something goes bump in the night by the boxes of 30k towels or whatever we're shipping
>figure it's nothing, but to stave off paranoia of deep space parasites i grab my SKS and turn the lights on to check it out
>engineering bitches at me through intercom for the unexpected power draw of all the fluorescent lights but idgaf
>tells me to turn them off right now
>1minutenigga.mp3
>check all the rows, all clear, get to the last one down the racks
>really close to the scuffling now
>nudge a box and something shoots out really fast
>fire my rifle and blam it
>mfw it turns out to be the warrant officer's cat
>mfw i have to scrape cat guts off of the cargo rack area
>mfw i spent the next 9 months as the kitchen's chore bitch because of that stupid fuckup

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This thread reminds me of Planetes. Shit jobs in space, but it's still pretty cool so whatever.

Please continue.

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But I'm already a Space Janitor.
I can take you on a tour of my next Job if you want.
The Zero-G lab just had a catastrophic event that slaughtered everyone and I gotta clean it up.

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>>8095835
Poor bastard didn't even make it to Christmas.

>>8096084
F

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>>8096430
Agreed. Anyway, here's the Gravity Drive.

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>>8096599
Remember kids, this is what happens when you try to convert energy to planetary matter without your safety goggles on.

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Some form of security or law enforcement. I wanna be a space cop.

Cracking down on space pirates and contraband trading sounds awesome.

>>8096599
that movie was complete garbage, desu

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>assuming alcubiere drive and fusion engines

Have my own exploration ship. At any cost. I'de probabbly had lifetimes to achive that.
>assuming fusion engines and safe sstos.

Hard call. I could be a shuttle pilot and help wit the expansion of our own solar system or i could be a part of a huge 5km long colony ship. Maybe i'de stay in a low grav colony on our solar system. All of those would be fullfiling lifes
>Assuming reliable and inexpensive rocket based space program.

I would stay on the ground and help build the amaxong tech that would be ferried to space and make self sustaining colonies.

>>8095719
Hell yes

>>8094668
Yeah but can you imagine the sound of incoming fire alarm getting louder and louder as you frantically trying to find where the incoming fire come? It's pretty nightmarish

>>8095084

I love the cop uniforms of "Outland". It's like taking a police uniform and giving it a very blue-collar feel.

>>8097167
Corrupt space cop sounds better

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>already in the reserve force of my country as comms
>entire job is memorizing how to navigate ISO and NATO publications

id probably just go back into comms, or some kind of librarian

I'm pretty good at bos'n stuff but i doubt that spacecraft dock using thick ropes for hawsers and puffy pellet fenders to prevent scraping paint on collisions

>>8059710
I'd probably stay on a firm ground to avoid the embrace of hard vacuum because some hull welder was shitposting on /trash/ while doing his job

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>>8094668
>ven just cold missiles or bullets will be detectable as they're racing towards you. In a way it's more grim, because you'll see the thing that's about to kill you potentially hours before it hits.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close-in_weapon_system

people whose understanding of naval warfare lies sometime in the age of sail and whose understanding of aerial combat still relies on cannon fire shouldnt talk shit about what spaceborne weapons will be like

the energy-intensive nature of going to space already relies on several treaties asking politely to not shoot down anything that passes over your country above a certain altitude, and even modern naval warfare, a largely 2d concern (even if mapped to a 3d space) is a game of firing guns at missiles shot at other missiles to be shot down by other missiles that are in turn launched by aircraft beyond the horizon from the carriers that service them.

>>8101831
just keep your war belt on you, youll be fine. you can fit an entire modern naval abandonment suit into a fanny pack. you could probably fit a robust enough suit to survive vacuum into a similar space, and an EEBD fits into a lunchbox and thats 20 minutes of air right there. a CHEMOX lung, which is primitive, is another like 40 minutes. a modern BA is 20 with a very pessimistic breathing rate. I did about 30 panting in a fire and still had another 1/3 of a tank about

modern technology is very impressive

>>8101831
I think that poor dude got blasted by a space pirate after mistaken for a space cop

>>8059710
>welding is easy
>pneumatics are easy
not as much as youd think

>>8061307
why isnt there automation for it now then

its all just math

>>8101924
Welding in space actually sounds like an interesting problem
It's cold, there's no gravity, no atmosphere

>>8102111
How about cold welding?

>>8094668

>all those honor harrington novels about missiles fired 300k km away hours ago being the clutch in the battle

generally hard sci is kind of boring though

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>>8059710

My current job involves maneuvering a large truck in cramped as fuck spaces, organizing a small group of people, and lots of physical labor. I'm bright and can improvise solutions to unexpected problems that arise. Plus, my hobbies require at most a decent computer and preferably an internet connection, so I don't mind living in a tiny box-apartment.

Spacedock loader/unloader would be the go-to job, but I could do well as a "whatever task needs doing today" on a startup colony or mining/hard terraforming operation as well.

>>8100395
But... I am the law!

>>8101924
Welding would definitely be very hard, but since I'm a technically-oriented person, after I grasp the basics of it I think I would be good from there with training.

Speaking of which, I'm actually in school for welding right now, hence my pick. But vacuum welding would be a way different ballgame man.

>>8059710
Space relief hoe/rent a wife.
Specialised in wife play for lonely space farer that they feel like they are home and can bust a nut.

>>8086483
Outland is more like clint eastwood in space or like alien rather than star trek or Avatar.

>>8101887
Are modern CIWS accurate enough and quick enough to deflect bullets? Not being snarky or anything, I'm genuinely curious.

>>8104809

No.

A modern rifle has a muzzle velocity of about 1200 m/s, and an effective range of a few hundred meters. Meaning a CIWS has less than half a second (in standard encounter ranges, less than 1/10 a second) to:
- Spot the bullet (visual feed, due to rifles being supersonic)
- verify it is indeed a bullet and not a butterfly or a mosquito
- calculate a trajectory and verify it's a potential hit (or intercept EVERY incoming bullet that's coming in your general direction)
- ready/aim your counterweapon to intercept
- fire, and somehow manage to hit a supersonic projectile significantly smaller than your fingertip.

If you have a system with that kind of capability, it makes more sense to just mount a rifle on it and have it identify and automatically and instantly shoot every enemy combatant that shows even a speck of himself within your range of operation.

>>8101887
sauce?

>>8104552
There's a lot of prostitution/IT in this thread, I'm not surprised

>>8107275
There's a big possibility that we already perfecting the concept of robot slut at that time

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>>8059710
Space trucker for life, going station to station and sampling from the menu of exotic aliens in each bar during each stop

>>8107546
And infected with xenoSTDs too?

>>8107546

>lot lizards at xeno truckstops with huge fuggin busoms, thin waists, and thick as fuck thighs that are all dirt cheap because they're considered KYS tier ugly, die virgin bodytypes for their people

I would probably end up doing the same thing I do now - systems administration. God knows Solaris will probably still be kicking around in the year 2148, if only because the name is too perfect an opportunity to pass up.

>>8109721
>update to Java breaks airlock functions
>affected devices default to open

Building Better Futures with Oracle(TM)

>>8110102
>Slip in an extra rule to Asimov's laws
>Vent all clowns
>Station Admin finds out
>Promotes me to head of sysadmin because he's been looking for an excuse to get rid of that fucking Clown for months

>>8110160
>Turn out the clowns are an alien race
>Death of their kind causing interplanetary conflict
>Now your colony going to be invaded by an army of killer clowns

I have something to post later... but I don't have time to write it all down.

So I'll settle for a bump.

>>8115953
Go ahead take your time. This is a nice thread

>>8102111
>>8102171
modern welding uses fuels that are self-oxydizing. underwater welding is also a thing, and underwater is not exactly as oxygen rich an environment as your dad's garage

its like guns in space -- the "what about the oxygens???" point is moot because the fuel contains oxygen anyway.

>it's cold
actually space is hot because there's no way to radiate heat. it's not so much that space is cold as that the temperatures in shade and sunlight are far more extreme

>>8104809
big shells probably yeah

CWIS effectiveness is more about volume of fire and ability to track targets than pinpoint accuracy. they are generally described as "walls of lead", they're intentionally not hyper accurate sniper rifles, but whirring chainguns intended for area denial

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I'd probably be something boring like a space accountant, doing people's space taxes and filing space 1040s

>>8059710
Space Asshole.

fuck space why dont we have roving gypsy-like bands of self-sufficient ships forming an independent mobile nation

>>8118376
Actually cold welding can be done in space:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_welding

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>>8059710
>What would /trash/ do as a job in space?

Jack Harkness

>>8095084

>Blue collar universe" movies shared with Alien.

This guy gets it. I watched the first two Alien movies a little while back and just how practical and heavy duty everything in them is really appeals to me. It's not a Blade Runner "everything's fucked" look, nor is it a Star Trek "everything's perfect now" look. The Nostromo is a perfect example of industrial design in a sci-fi for me. Everything's bulky and angular looking and grey with stamped logos and there's almost no kind of extravagance in the whole thing - the whole thing is built for purpose and purpose only, from the monitors to the uniforms to the lights and fucking cereal containers. The only thing to quite come close to that look is fucking Red Dwarf of all things.

I mean, Ripley and the Xenomorph are great too, but fuck me if the design of those movies isn't utterly fantastic.

>>8059710

I reckon I'd end up as some kind of IT guy. There's always going to be dumb users and shitty computers, even in space.

seeing as this is sci-fi general I might as well post an old idea I had for a couple of spaceships.

The idea was set about four hundred years in the future; interplanetary travel and freight is now a fairly big business and quite commonplace, but the ships themselves are still super expensive, leading a shady space company to create a sort of "emergency crew" for their spaceships so that in the event of a complete loss of life, these emergency crewmembers could be woken up and sent out to get the ship home safely. I'm not sure whether to have them be human and have the crew's memories or be more like synths who don't actually know they're androids.

The setup was that four of them wake up on "Starcat" which is the oldest working ship in Earth's travel fleet; It's one of only a few spaceships that actually land on planets anymore and has to fly in the atmosphere as well as in space. It has a huge shield-shaped hull that connects two large living areas that fall beneath it and a command room right in the middle of it. Being so old, Starcat relies on rotation about its axis through space to generate gravity and one side of the ship is actually upside down so that the ceiling becomes the floor when the ship starts turning in space. The entire central "spine" of the craft however, is magnetically isolated from the rest of the ship and therefore remains stationary as the ship spins, allowing the central thruster to fire properly even when the ship is spinning.

cont.

>>8121466

The other ship was the baddies's craft, called "Gemini" and carried all manner of nasty space weapons.
Gemini is supposed to be a stealth battleship and has an unusual design: all of its thrusters are hidden within the body of the ship and the exhaust ports actively cooled to disguise any heat bloom, the whole body of the ship is covered in mirrors, so as to hide it from view, it carries radar jammers all over it and it is one of the thinnest ships in space, allowing it to rotate and angle the thin side of the ship at its target to make it a much smaller target.
It came with an array of cutting lasers and scatterguns hidden beneath the surface for shooting at smaller incoming ships and could even eject a cloud of fine debris that would destroy any incoming lighter spacecraft, but the main weapon aboard it is a massive railgun that fires solid shells the size of a bus at its targets, as well as penetrating inert missiles and "breach bombs" which are designed to punch through a ship's hull, stop a deck or two in, seal the room they're in, pressurise it and then explode. Basically it's all kinds of nasty.

I'd like to work on the story at some point, but I wanted it to be a comic and I haven't been able to get an artist for it and I'm working on a different story so it'd have to be shelved anyway, but I thought I'd share some of the ideas anyway because why not.

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> get a bunch of female aliens to join your spaceship crew
> claim it's to ensure you're creating a multi-ethnic and diverse workplace
> government is all impressed and gives you a bunch of tax breaks
> really you just want to have fun with all of that hot xeno pussy

>>8121470
>Thinnest ship in space
>Firing projectiles the size of a bus
What?

>>8121240
But this time, you must deal with rogue AIs as well. Not really that simple

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>>8101887
I admit I have zero experience in military matters, I just like looking at physics problems and orbital mechanics and I think about this stuff a lot. The comment I was responding to was “you'll never know what got you when your ship blows up.” That's what I was negating. I agree that spacecrafts will have some countermeasures, but there will definitely be circumstances when they will be overwhelmed.

Here's an example, you're aboard a small patrol ship, and you encounter a similar sized patrol ship. Command says they need to be taken out at all costs. You launch a missile and see how they react. They launch 2, the first one is intended to take out your first, while the second one heads towards your ship. So you launch 2 more, 2 to take out his 2, and the last one to take out their ship. They launch 2 more, trying to keep up. Eventually you have all 8 of your missiles out, and they launch their 8th and 9th. At this point all you can do is hope that you're ship's engines can outmaneuver the missile (which seem unlikely, all other things being equal, the missile will likely have more maneuverability because it's mass ratio has more engine than anything else) or wait until the missile cross the gulf separating the two ships and blows you up. In this case, you'll see death coming hours in advance.

Another good example is using kinetics. Bullets or clouds of shrapnel fired at each other. I do think that future technology will be able to slap bullets out of the sky, either by deflecting with bullets of your own, lasers, or maybe shockwaves generated by bombs. But you'd have to see them coming in advance. I don't know the exact numbers, but it's safe to assume there is a distance beyond which you won't be able to deflect them. Their cross-section would become so small they'd barely show up as a pixel on your sensors.

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(continued)
But conversely, if they get too close (and there are too many of them) you might not have time to swat them all out of the sky. So some of them will end up hitting you.

I made a quick map to show what I mean. Say you're A, in the center of the sphere. B is 600 km away on the outer circle and fires kinetics. Your CIWS (whatever it's based on) is good enough to start swatting them away at 150 km, the middle circle. The middle circle is 45 km, and that's where it's too late to deflect a nuclear warhead, because once it gets that close it can detonate and the shockwave can do a lot of damage. But let's ignore him for now because we're talking about kinetics.

Let's say your sensor's officer says that they've detected the cloud of shrapnel while it's still 500 km out. They can't target it yet, but they can see it. The cloud has 8000 projectiles, once they cross the 150 km circle, at the speed they're going you're going to be able to take out about 6000 of them before they reach you. And the tactical officer estimates an 80% probability that the remaining projectiles will hit something critical. In this case, again, the captain might say “Well men, we're going to be dead in about 5 minutes. Make your peace.”

For lasers though... I admit that it could be pretty instantaneous. Especially if the enemy ship has their weapons tucked away under the hull, and you don't see what their turrets look like. Are they carrying cannons, missiles, or lasers? If they do fire a laser at you, you'll have a molten hole in your hull before you know they've fired.

>>8122220

we're talking relatively thin, as in, the whole thing's height is only about fifteen to twenty metres, making it super thin in comparison to most other ships that are hundreds of metres in all directions.

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>>8122124
>join crew of daring space adventurers
>really hope you get to meet tons of alien babes
>turns out most aliens are really just... weird looking
>one of the crew members just looks like a boulder with legs
>rocks aren't fuckable
>sad_violin.mp3
>finish your duties and decide to call it a day
>head up to your assigned quarters
>find this waiting for you

>TFW it's been years since that space RP over on the huge boobs Oekaki
It still hurts.

>>8122312
Just spotted a typo... the 45 km circle is the inner most one, the "middle" one is 150 km, the outer one is 600 km. I should also note that I approximated these numbers heavily. The sophistication of the targeting technology would cause them to vary considerably, but the point of targeting limitations still stands.

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>>8122312
Another situation where the battle would be over before you know it is for situations of espionage. If you have a traitor aboard your ship and he plants bombs all over the reactor. Then you could very well die before you know what hit you. Or if you're asked to move these unmarked containers, and command screwed up somewhere and a spy has slipped a bunch of active warheads inside one of the containers. He waits for the ship to be well underway, then blows up the ship.

>>8122976
source?

>>8107569
I've been led to believe that catching std's wouldn't be possible with aliens, but bacterial infections could be.

>>8124930
Gimme a minute to see if it's even still a thing on there. My internet is being pure fucking garbage.

>>8124930
Yeah, it doesn't seem to exist anymore.

>>8124949
Exotic STDs? It can be used as space porn plot device
>Normal human working as typical space accountant
>Met with a cute Nero species at a bar
>Aw fuck yeah fucking her knee
>Several days later you realised your cock is swollen
>Go to a doctor
>Found out that you contract an alien STD that caused your cock to get bigger
>That bitch, wait, what's the problem?
>Turn out it will keep getting bigger
>Now must live with constant medication to keep your cock size manageable during work hours
>Not all the time, sometimes swelling may occur faster causing noticeable bulge
>Co workers start to gossip about your condition
>Qt 7/10 fellow human woman asking for a date
>Obviously wants the D
>Warn her about the STD situation
>She doesnt give a fuck
>One horizontal tango later
>Noticed she's changed
>Turn out the STD caused different effect to human woman
>Increase in sex drive akin to sex addiction and reckless behaviour
>She's asking for more sex
>Okay.jpg
>Fuck her everywhere, including in the office
>Boss found out
>Got fired
>Unemployed
>Can't find job because space economy recession
>Can't afford medication
>Cock swole more and more
>Got kicked out from apartment
>Move to cheap apartment in an abandoned mining facility asteroid
>Pretty much space slum
>My swollen cock is visible in my pants
>Someone offered to work as gigolo for Mandi species
>Explain about STD situation
>That's okay they immune to it
>Oh well

>>8122296
How about creating spaceships with detachable part so after the entire missiles fired the pilot can detach from main hull to escape with smaller ship with just enough fuel to return to base or mother ship.

>>8059710
Same thing I do here. Sit on my ass all day, shit out academic papers, teach, sit on my ass some more.

Except in space.

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Fuck, who knows?

Will we need butchers in the future?

Will there be a need to abduct livestock of more primitive planets?

>>8122312
>lasers
The ship needs to be bigger to generate enough power for a laser shot?

>>8122312

Despite what space operas tell you, lasers really aren't a viable weapon in space.
The distances are too large and diffraction fucks you over hard. You could also just coat your hull or a layer of your hull in any reflective material. You know all incoming lasers will be in the low infrared range, so it's not like you need to reflect a wide range of wavelengths.

http://www.jldoty.com/articles/laser_weapon_myth/laser_rant/laser_rant.html

>>8126581
Until you must fight giant space cat

>>8126581
this is not what /egg/man taught me

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>>8104599

I want "3:10 To Yuma IN SPACE!" now.

Imagine a space pirate as badass as Ben Wade.

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Anyone here ever play Traveller? It's an old table-top RPG.

This thread reminds me of that a bit. Especially since Traveller had canon space wolves in it.

>>8122296
>>8122312
your views on battles are just a little outdated and fantastical, is all

ships don't get into tussles with eachother as lone agents, especially nowadays that they're so specialized and rely on eachother for cover. frigates are helpless against air threats, destroyers are useless in surface engagements, etc. a patrol ship would be something like pic related -- it's not meant for protracted sea battles, it's there to deter illegal fishermen and block drug runners.

a space ship getting struck by one missile or other round shouldn't utterly destroy it, either, since a lot of the survivability of large craft doesn't come from sheer armor, but from damage control and redundancy. ideally, the missile would strike a compartment, blow it to shit, maybe even the adjacent compartments now are squashed and have holes in them, but the ship as a whole should maintain airtight integrity. there's videos of ships that were outright split in half, and both halves still could float. iirc the one that had the engines and props could even still move, if slowly and painfully. though all that said, just a cloud of shrapnel shouldn't do significant damage to anything, it's not like people are going and sinking aircraft carriers with hand grenades

also nuclear bombs dont create a lot of gas afaik, so in space there shouldnt be much of a shockwave that breaks sufff (as opposed to a lot of radiation and subsequent heat)

>>8126958
isnt that just samurai champloo

>>8127132
One of my bros ran a few one-shots with its system, but based off SS13 for DANK LORE and general activities to get done

it was ok.

>>8127192

I doubt it. Ben Wade, by his own admission and behavior, was "rotten as hell".

Not to mention his minions could buy or intimidate almost anyone.

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>>8127192
>a patrol ship would be something like pic related

I wanna see! You forgot your pic. I love "gritty realism" spaceships. If that is what you're talking about.

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>>8126581
The issues raised in that linked article seem to focus primarily on the 50,000 km distance and the use of infrared beams. Since the diffraction he's talking about are dependent on aperture size, distance to target, and wavelength of the beam, you could resolve a lot of the problem by using bigger lenses on your laser turrets, keeping your engagement at closer ranges (like the hundreds of kilometers mentioned in this example: >>8122312 instead of tens of thousands of kilometers) and use violet beams, or even ultraviolet. In fact, I'm reminded of this trick I think is called the missile bus. Since there are no aerodynamics in space you can stick any weird shape on the nose of your missile, so long as it's not too heavy. So, instead of a warhead you just mount your laser turret and a power source for it. Ship B could stay a comfortable distance away, while the laser turret gets into knife-fighting range.

And if you manage a complete victory over your enemy and secure the area, you can even go recover the missile so you didn't waste the laser turret.

Probably suffocate given the autism percentage on this board

OP here, just gauging reactions, would anyone like recurring scifi generals posted weekly, like this one?

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>>8129705
Could be fun, the problem is that generals usually need fresh content to talk about.

Actually, scratch that. 90% of the generals on this board have discussed themselves down to a nub, and they're effectively just hangouts. So a better question is, would we have enough of a group to sustain that kind of hangout?

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>>8121466
I quite like the idea of the shield ship. It reminds me of this thing I found once in a sci-fi group. It's a nuclear powered rocketship that has inflatable wings that it can deploy if it needs to fly in an atmosphere. It also uses the wings if the reactor gets too hot and they need to desperately bleed away heat.

>>8121470
I'm a bit less sold on the stealth ship. I imagine that the mighty spaceships of the future will rely on more than just visual signatures to spot a ship, so covering it in mirrors likely won't make you invisible. It's okay to have a stealth ship, but leave the details of exactly how it achieves this intentionally vague, otherwise you're going to find reasons for it not to work.

>>8129991
4 days, 140 posts, and 50 posters, I'd say so

>>8086483
why did people's heads exploded in that movie?

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>>8131380
>in his mind

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>>8131460
>>8131380

such an awesome and interesting universe, shame the squeal books are trash.

Personal ball-washer to some alien stud.

>>8131686
Stalenhag's vision of an "alternate spacefaring 80's" universe will be brought to the big screen one day, I'm sure.

He's a visionary before his time, but it will come.

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>>8059710
Space miner all the way, but with the caveat that my spacesuit must look like pic related.

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> Hey you know what'd be fun. To have a 3D model of a ship for the thread.
> Everyone could be assigned a room and have events occur based on what they post.
> Technicians would get sent to engineering.
> Welders would get snazzy space suits to go on EVA.
> All the xenophobes could hang out in the mess with their slaves/guests
> I know! I'll make it in Sketchup.
> Sketchup...
> FUCKING SKETCHUP
> "Cannot extrude a curved face even though it's fucking flat as a board" Sketchup
> "Bane of my existence that can't even make a simple truncated cone" Sketchup

I should have just stuck a exacto blade under my fingernail, in the end it would have given me the same result.

>>8131770
*xenophiles

>>8130545

Explosive decompression.

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>>8132049
what really, I only thought I happen with deep sea diving not in space?

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Salvager / bandit

I'd try to find abandoned outposts and junk, haul it to a reprocessing facility and get easy bux.

>>8131770
keep trying anon, you may be the saving grace if this general becomes recurring.

generals are a hangout so you have the potentiality to become super popular in it if you persevere

>>8132095
deep sea divers must dive into depths that would kill them by compression of water density, thus they must become more denser than the water above them the deeper they get. this is achieved by slowly raising the air density in diving suits as they get deeper, bringing their compression levels far above normal levels at sea level. it's the same concept of opening an airtight jar, just with a human in a suit as a jar. the force of escaping air into the lower-compression air density from a high-density compression environment causes extreme reactions of force on mushy blobs, like us.

the same concept applies to space, just with the air compression inside the suits is normal, but the outside space acts as a vacuum, where the air compression is none because there's no air.

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Ships are cool, but don't forget to also post xeno-girls. Why else would man brave the dark and inhospitable void of space.

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>>8059710
Space trucker making runs between the developing colonies and the generation ships originally meant to colonize them before they were made obsolete by ftl drive about a century after they were already launched.

We'd have our own colorful space trucker slang. Smokey might actually be some type of genetically engineered bear-man and lot lizards would, of course, be sexy reptile women.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IerJF2xKwuo

>>8132657
>implying the easy bux are not in "creating" your own salvage

>>8122915
>turns out "two to a bunk" was a lie the whole time
>explains why there was never anyone in the top bunk anyways
>qt3.14 lizard gf just wanted a nice warmth rock for the trip
>since humans generate heat at their optimal temperature it works out anyways

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>>8133017
unless you prefer the company of fembots

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Scamming and murdering in the uncontrollable no borders economy

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>>8059710
sailor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmQQ-jc7VaY

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>>8059710
I would be captain of a starship introducing diplomacy to all alien races.

And by diplomacy I mean my dick.

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>>8074215
>Sean Connery
pleb

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>>8086382
professional autist

>>8134032
In my headcanon the demand for spaceship is so high even old spaceships hundreds or even thousands years old still roam the space and they can only survive with spare parts created with futuristic 3D printing.

>>8128569
>bigger lenses on your laser turrets
Possible up to a point.

>keeping your engagement at closer ranges
Also possible up to a point, if standard procedure is to hide in for example an asteroid field.
That nullifies the only advantage lasers would have over normal kinetics, though.
Lasers are an extremely inefficient way of delivering energy, and are very easy to defend against, and in short ranges you can't benefit from their light-speed.

>and use violet beams, or even ultraviolet.
Those are even worse, diffraction-wise.

Look at another example. The maths is easy enough.
Distance: 100 km or 100 000 m
Tight spot of 10 cm or 0.1 m (3-5 times the diameter of a MBT kinetic energy penetrator, the modern standard in direct-fire armor penetration)
Wavelength of 10 µm (far infrared) or 0.000001 m

2.44 x 0.000001 m x 100 000 m / 0.1 m = 2.44 m

For an extremely short-range (real-life artillery can attack targets at 40km range, after that the curvature of the earth fucks you) laser in an environment with zero debris (not likely since you have to hide somewhere) you need a lens at least 2.44 meter in diameter.
And if the enemy has a polished steel hull, 95% of the energy you launch at him will be reflected.
And the energy you pour into your laser needs to be an instantaneous burst. If you use the same energy to power for example a railgun (with a kinetic penetrator, or active warhead) you get the entire travel time through the barrel to pour energy into the projectile, so you need only a fraction of the peak energy delivery.

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>Security or Police

You may think that sounds cool

its not

it never is

the mixture of my actual job and SS13 experience dosent paint future sec jobs in a good light

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>ywn be an asteroid miner paying shady merchants for illegal android waifus to fuck and cuddle with

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>>8136341
But according to your own equation you used there, the wavelength is on the numerator. That means a bigger wavelength requires a bigger aperture. Smaller (higher energy ultraviolet photons for example) would need a smaller one, so shorter wavelengths are better if we want to minimize diffraction. By putting 4 micrometer light into the equation I get an aperture radius of 0.976, which is just under 2 meters wide. That's big, but it's okay for a 300 meter long patrol ship of the space forces.

Also, I think you're using a factor for an atmosphere (that 2.44), in space mater is much more sparse so the diffraction effect is diminished. The factor we should be using is 0.64. But yeah, where are you sourcing your equations? I found mine over on Atomic Rockets: http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/spacegunconvent.php#id--Laser_Cannon--Equations

>>8136341
Also forgot to add, the 95% reflectivity is only valid for far infrared light. Even just moving into visible light the absorption becomes closer to 50%. This means that all you need to do is train the beam onto the enemy ship for twice the time to get full equivalent damage. I don't have the numbers for ultraviolet, but I suspect it's similarly good. There are also clever ways of optimizing absorption by doing things like "beam drilling". This is when you turn on and off the beam extremely quickly, it keeps the heat focused on a smaller area, while simultaneously pushing vaporized metal out of the way for the next pulse of laser light.

Just an FYI everyone, next thread will be a "Build your own Ship" edition general. No rush on this thread, but I wanna give everyone a heads-up with time to finish any ideas they have.

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>>8132842
Thanks, it was just a spur of the moment thought, but I'm realizing I'm gonna have to get gud. At least if I want to actually make this thing look decent. Thankfully there are tons of video tutorials out there. The problem is that I keep wanting to use curves, because spaceships should be good and phallic! But sketchup is... pretty bad with curves.

Anyway, this is what I have so far. I inspired myself on the Discovery from A Space Odyssey, and I want a kind of Serenity look for the engines. For now the cargo bay is just a hole, but I imagine filling it with cranes and mechanical arms and docking bays for our EVA equipment (one day...). Feel free to make suggestions.

>>8137556
Well I ain't got no artistic ability so I ain't posting there.

>>8137849
It doesn't have to be just about the visuals, you can talk about what you'll do on the ship, like everyone has been doing in this thread.

"edition" titles are just little quirky nicknames that don't have to mean anything.

>>8138054
bingo

>let's turn everything into a fucking General, guys! I'm sure that won't stifle the creative and sporadic nature of 4chan at all!

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>>8138337
Some people made a board (I forget what it's called) where no one is allowed to repeat a meme or joke that was uttered earlier. Like, to do so is a bannable offense. If you want absolute originality and a complete lack of repetition you could... seek that community out, maybe? I don't know, it seems a bit daunting to me.

To me this just feels like "Hey this is fun, let's continue when we hit the bump limit." We could call it Scifi-thread part 2, for all the difference it would make.

>>8138337
>50k threads for kids shows? no prob
>100k threads for a slight variation of specific fetishes? hey that's cool, keep it up
>1 thread for people discussing anything related to a specific genre? WOAH HOLD THE FUCKING PHONE NOW WE'RE GETTING RIDICULOUS HERE!

/trash/ is a derivative subculture of mainstream 4chan anyways, we're getting to the point where it'd be nice if we could split the board down, such as /trash/co, /trash/vidya, /trash/porn, etc

>>8135420

Gah. Too much silver. Give me the user-car future.

>>8138377
>Some people made a board (I forget what it's called) where no one is allowed to repeat a meme
/r9k/. The robot9001 script blocks you from making a duplicate post. It used to be good, now literally half of it is tiny variations of frogposting.
A cool but fairly short lived social experiment. Not very successful long-term.

>We could call it Scifi-thread part 2, for all the difference it would make.
That would probably be a preferable solution, yeah. Better yet to just call it a sci-fi thread and not mention previous incarnations, so people are more inclined to enter with an open mind, free of preconceived notions.

Problems arise when you force Generals and people get invested, endless bumping is the obvious symptom "we've had these threads for weeks/months, it'd be a shame to stop now", but perhaps the most crippling problem that arise when you have Generals is the structure and culture they set up merely by existing. Tripfags and the need to know "who's who" aren't an issue on /trash/, but internal rules, pastebins, etc. inevitably do crop up, and it becomes almost impossible for new users to enter.

I'm sure you've experienced the issue yourself:
Scenario A; You see a thread that seems vaguely interesting. You notice it's got 20 or so replies, so you immediately jump in and start contributing. All is well.
In scenario B; You see a thread that seems vaguely interesting. You notice it's got 200+ replies, even just lurking the thread to get up to date seems like a chore, and you don't bother.
This is the reason why threads have a bump limit in the first place, and only a few threads (short-lived stickies, for example) are rolling threads. A General magnifies the problem with B even further, it's not even enough to lurk 200 posts, you have to lurk those 200 posts, lurk the previous thread, and preferably skim the one before that to get a grasp of what's going on. Generals become isolationist and elitist by their nature, counter to 4chan.

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space clown

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Diplomat (with a capital D) in case any ayys show up

>>8138847
>not titling yourself Dicklomat

SAD!

>>8132928
>>8132095
>explosive decompression in spess

There isn't enough pressure difference in the loss of 1 atm to 1 atm (roughly one bar) for 'explosive decompression' in any reasonable spaceship design. There were a few experiments involving accidental decompression in test chambers at NASA, and the Soviets actually lost a whole crew capsule when a valve failed in orbit and the results arn't THAT dramatic.

You'll likely just feel the water bubbling off your tongue and eyes (your face would probably get a little frosty) then pass out.

Some swelling and significant bruising will occur, but the greatest danger is probably that you lungs will start collapsing and drying out, so you want to repressurize within a minute.

No popping like a shotgunned melon though.

>>8139832
I heard it can also cause pretty bad problems with your ear drums.

Like having your ears pop so hard they bleed a little.

>>8138737
anything for a laugh, in space

>>8139832
Yeah, decompression chamber for divers are far more dangerous. A small hole can suck adult human and turned him/her into mincemeat

>necrobump

This is still alive?

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>>8133017

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>>8151486
>I mean, you're the one that stopped, after all

>>8059710
I'd be a clown.

*honk*

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>>8059710
I imagine exterminators will be kept pretty busy what with all the various alien infestations on mining colonies and freighters.

>>8151553
no!

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>>8128296
I was intending to post an ACTUAL irl "patrol ship" and thought better of it, dunno why I failed to edit that pic related bit out

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>>8137820
I like it. It's appropriately phallic.

I would be down for designing the small-crafts, but I don't know how to 3D-design.

>>8158239
Since shape is not a problem in space then why not a sea ship shaped space ship? Space battleship yamato proved that ship in space = cool

>>8161330
Crotch Rocket!

>>8163687
All that plating would be so heavy though... especially if it holds no other purpose beyond "looks cool".

>>8164613
Is weight even matter?

>>8137820
>>8161323
>/trash/ builds a space station
>it's an ungodly mix of cultural references, 60's pulp architecture, and late 80's technology

where do I sign?

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>>8164761
Not if you're using super star trek tech, but in the real world the heavier your spaceship, the more difficult it will be to move. It's basic inertia. Here on Earth we don't really feel it because cars can pull themselves along by hugging the road, and planes sort of hug the air, but in space there's nothing to hug. So rockets can only move themselves forward by push themselves along, which isn't very efficient.

There's something called the Tsiolkovsky Rocket Equation, which shows by how much your rocket can accelerate. It depends on the mass ratio, and the speed at which you're shooting stuff out of the engines. The mass ratio is basically the difference between the rocket and the mass that you shoot out of those engines (known as propellant or Remass). So, if you're rockets weight is made up of more remass than actual rocket, you'll have great range. It'd be like a gun that's weight comprises more of bullets than actual gun. By slapping on useless weight like decorative plating (especially if it's big steel plates) you're crapping all over the Rocket Equation. You can solve this by saying that the engines run on super antimatter magic rocks, and that the exhaust velocity is insanely fast. But even then, adding weight to a rocket is a bit of a faux-pas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsiolkovsky_rocket_equation

Now to reply without the thread falling off...
>>8165175
Interesting point made. I've learned something new.
From what you describe, spaceships would be made more functionally than aesthetically, so Star Wars-like ship design would be quite wasteful.
Would then most ships try to maximize the volume/hull area ratio, and be circular or cylindrical? Actually, that's a dumb question. The ISS is already mostly cylindrical.
Perhaps the race-craft spaceships of the future would instead be smooth, like a dolphin, in order to cut down on kilograms of hull.

>>8165175
So let say the thrusters are using helium 3 what average of weight and size a ship for viable space transportation all over the solar system.

Let say from mining facility in a Lagrange point to Mars

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>>8164991
"A bright future awaits you in the trash-verse!"

>>8163687
The point is to illustrate that it has very few (if any) guns or missiles, and is clearly not intended to be throwing down with battleships all by its lonesome.

I'm going to immediately fuck off into uncharted space and spend the rest of my days growing weed inside a hollowed-out asteroid and stealing space-internet

>>8171504
Han Solo and a hydroponics farm inside a cave, now that's an idea I can get behind

I'd probably join an artist colony/space station.

>tfw no huge, thicc ayy artist girlfriend with dominant tendencies to collaborate on art with

>>8134032
Space Truckers was such a fun movie. I miss the time people put that kind of effort into B flicks.

>>8135685
That sort of reasoning makes more sense than most people will realize. People think that future space will be like downtown Berlin or something, but a lot of this kind of science fiction takes place in your space equivalent of Eastern Europe, or ass-end parts of the US, if not downright Africa. And there you see the same thing: People keeping old junkers alive on a wing and a prayer.

It's simple supply and demand. Unless someone is obsessively recycling everything because it's cutting edge tech, and there is no second hand market, you will see previous generation stuff wind up in weird places. Just look at real world militaries, and how second and third rate powers ended up using older tech. There's tons of pics of Sherman tanks in the deserts of Israel. In fact, Israeli Shermans were sold to Chile, which used them until 19-fucking-99. Because a tank is a tank.

Now factor relatively stagnated technology into the mix, and a thousand year old design might not be that bad of a deal compared to a new one. I mean, you don't go hunting for cutting edge knife technology, either, do you? The old stuff will do.

>>8101944
There is, accounting is probably dying out since it's mostly automated and we really just need people to correct any human error in registering information. In the future the automation will likely be more precise and you'll have a handful of IT dudes/accountants in a data center handling all of a corporation's financial errors.

>>8172115
>sorry sir, there was a "computational error" that gave the IT department $40b
>it won't happen again, but everything we had on backorder was automatically bought
>congratulations on your company's foray into high-depth virtual reality and intelligence fidelity research though!

>>8102111
1) Space isn't cold. You lose heat quickly in a vaccuum because vaccuums like to strip away high energy particools, thus reducing your heat.

2) Gravity is irrelevant to welding

3) Either the fuel can be oxygenated or the welder can provide a jet of oxygen for a welding process which would actually be more efficient than at standard atmospheric conditions.

>>8172137
Why don't you see that happening today in corporations? I mean you do, but usually they have failsafes and also the law to prevent employees from just draining their accounts and absconding.

>>8172186
It's a joke, but if a company has $40b just lying around, chances are it's just pocket change for a spacefaring conglomerate.

>>8172260

Ah fug, wrong thread.

>>8171504
Being alone in space with rickety techs and old ass ship can affect your mental health very badly.

Rule #1 about living in space: Don't live alone

>>8172186
Airlock "accident" may occur. I mean how law work in space anyway?

Forget all these little jobs, I'd want to be the starship captain.

>>8175988
>Implying that a starship captain is a big job
With population explosion and growing demand for ships that job will be one of the most super common one

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>>8169489
>Let say from mining facility in a Lagrange point to Mars

You can play around with this map yourself, though sometimes the numbers are a bit tricky, for example, it says 3000 m/s to go from Earth low-orbit to “Earth intercept”, but I think there are ways of combining burns together so that they are more efficient. For example this map says you need at least 4000 m/s to intercept Mars, but I've heard of mission profiles that used closer to 3000 m/s. Anyway, it's a good rough ballpark estimate.

To see how many m/s your ship can achieve we use DeltaV = Ve * ln (mass ratio). That wikipedia article I linked has a bunch of other stuff, but this is the part that matters to us. Ve is how fast the stuff is flying out of your rocket engine. The space shuttle engines have a Ve of about 4km/s. While the Vasimr (an experimental plasma engine that's actually being built) could potentially have a Ve of 30 km/s. The problem is that it consumes a huge amount of electrical power and would probably need a small nuclear reactor on board to power it. But if we want to go really crazy we could have a fusion powered engine, which could potentially have Ve of 100 km/s.

Now for the mass ratio. If your rocket weighs 100 tons, and you have a mass ratio of 1.5, the rocket full of fuel will weigh 150 tons. If you have a mass ratio of 3, the rocket fully fuelled will weigh 300 tons. That's all. In reality, fuel tanks don't make up too much of the vehicle, aside for big boosters like the Saturn V. If you want your rocket ship to look “normal” you'll want to keep it close to 2. I'll include an example with a picture in my next post.

As for ln, it's the natural logarithm. It's okay if that doesn't mean anything to you, there's probably a button on your calculator for it if you've got a scientific one. And there you have it! Go nuts.

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(continued)
The real ISS weighs about 420 tons. We can assume adding a big engine and the tanks would increase the weight to about... 460 tons. So here I created fuel tanks holding 460 tons of liquid helium. If you attached these tanks to the space station it would give it a mass ratio of 2. They're big (about 9 meters across and 16 meters tall), but manageable. In most sci-fi stories the tanks are so small they can be tucked under the floor boards, or in the wings. Like the X-wings and the Millenium Falcon. So these ships would have rather small mass ratios.

Or you do like in Star Trek where the ships don't even move using real inertia, they use "impulse" which pushes the ship along with magic.

>>8085806
sauce?

>>8177881
incase xeno comic

>>8095719
didnt moot ban a guy for not liking planetes

Didn't NASA confirm EM drives are real recently?

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>>8178687
No, they confirmed that one of their test seemed to show signs of microthrust and that they would be following it with further study. It's interesting, but it's not a full "confirmation". It may very well end up being a situation like those scientist who thought they saw particles moving faster than the speed of light. They retested their aparatus and found it was due to a buggy connection.

About a week after the NASA team made their announcement, China said that they observed similar results in their own tests, but I suspect that was just them trying to grab some limelight.

>>8177798
... Why is the deltav needed to intercept Mercury so high? Isn't it relatively close to us and moving slower than us?

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I'd want a geologist job working for an exploratory corp and just fuck off into deep space to catalog and claim new resources to sell off to the highest bidder.

Just me, a small ship, and a robro engineer to keep things together.

Head back to the edge for resupply and company or meet new species, advanced or primitive. Either is good to shake things up.

>>8180311
i wand green if this

>>8180311
I prefer to work with mining company. Better job security and not turning crazy after travelling in space alone with your robotic engineer

>>8177858
Well that's why I mention helium 3 in my previous post. Since that can be mined from Jupiter I believe it can be quite a viable fuel source for future space travel. Sure it's only around solar system but I think that's what we can realistically achieve within the next 1000 years

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>>8171658
I'm led to believe that the reason we don't get many b-movies like that anymore is because family friendly TVmovies became much more profitable after the VHS craze ended.

But anyway, a fleet of generation ships that were made obsolete a few centuries after being launched but long before ever reaching the planets they were meant to colonize would be such a huge investment of time and resources that people wouldn't just abandon them, even if upgrading them to FTL drive was impractical/impossible. I also figure ships like that would have the ability to grow food or manufacture something, hence the fleet of "truckers" running to and from them. I thought the idea of the once proud community now struggling worked well with the retro-blue collar theme of the thread.

Throw in the warp-drive speed limit idea that star trek played around with as a justification for Smokey.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEwYDAompV0

>>8181991
fuck you

coal dust fired rockets 4ever

Restarting

Anyone ready for the next thread? Chime in if you are, rather than letting this one timeout first

>>8183816
>the idea of the once proud community now struggling worked well with the retro-blue collar theme

That's actually pretty good idea. Imagine a generation ship full of hope and high spirit and every generation is indoctrinated with the idea that their children and children's children will colonise the new planet only to have their dream shattered when they did a first contact with supposed to be alien ship turn out to be a human vessel capable of faster than light travel. As most younger generations prefer to move out from the ship to find job and opportunity in a new world a handful still stay in the generational ship working as farmers and other stuff considered outdated in that era.

Of course it's not all doom and gloom. The back to nature movement helped with demand for more naturally grown food the generational ship citizens can provide for premium price.

>>8184813
Nuuuuuuu, fart powered thrusters will reign supreme!

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>>8059710
>What would /trash/ do as a job in space?
Chubby space scientist (pic somewhat related, outfit), probably a xeno-geneticist or something like that. I do hope we have gene therapy in the future so that I can be a trap.

Who would want to be my lab assistant and help ,e get in and out of my ever tightening outfit?

>>8188062
Go ahead mate. Nice to see we end a thread with a bang rather than drowning em

>>8188062
yes ready

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>>8184813
Bah, lousy technophile. Spaceships ought to be propelled by gangs of rowers manning giant oars.

>>8188915
I've always liked space anachronism, and its so underused.
If I wasn't so lazy I'd try to write a short story about vikings being visited by aliens, capturing their spaceship and refitting it to run off rowing and then maurading around a galaxy where all the other civilizations have long since become pacificts and have no idea how to deal with angry smelly humans boarding their ships and carrying off their alien wives.

>>8183816
Not just family friendly TV movies, either. Even sequels to hardcore action movies turn out to be PG-13, these days. We had a bloodless RoboCop, and a Die Hard with no cursing.

I think increased coverage made the niche market die out. Most people just want to watch a movie, and don't really care about the particulars. I've got friends who dragged us to the most excreable movies, like 10.000 BC and The Immortals or whatever, because we all have an interest in history so "we gotta go see this, man".

I like the idea of leapfrogged generation ships. It's always been around as a concept in science fiction, but not a lot has been done with it, as far as I know, at least. If they move at high speed, they will also be subject to time dilation. Together with their insular culture, they might very well find themselves to not be humanity's cream of the crop on arrival, but backwards yokels comparable to modern rural areas. People will look at them like they look at the Amish. Dudes speak a weird language or dialect (standard English), have weird customs (did you hear they play this game where two teams beat the shit out of each other for a ball? madness!), and generally represent a cultural artifact.

In the end, all they might have to offer to the spacer society around them is labour power from a community that has spent generations in space. Some low down trucker company will rather hire a backwards yokel from the asteroid, because he might not be up to speed and more than a little weird, but he's been jumping around in Zero G his entire life and the old, dangerous shit you run looks new to him.

A good justification might be that Earth sent out an entire fleet of generation ships, who maintained close proximity during the trip, running supplies between them and such. So the group has both a shared culture, and loads of space experience.

It could also turn out to be easy to adapt these ships for FTL travel. So they wander the systems looking for a new home.

>>8189956
There's always stuff like Spelljammer where MAGIC gets a Fantasy society into space.

Honestly, with something like D&D, I'd expect space shit to be common. Maybe not for the masses, but a king who has access to teleportation magic might as well have a cabin on the moon.

>>8189956
Replace Vikings with knights and that's pretty much Poul Andersons The High Crusade.

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>>8131770
>>8137820

You guys should create a space engineers server or something. Build your big trash-ship there and play out the fantasy scenarios on it.

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I'd be a deep-spacer, effectively living out of time due to the severe difference in time zones.

Oh, and I'd fight THIS THING with a flamethrower!

>>8194862
/trash/station 13

>>8195012
>/trash/station 13
>it's just one big outer-space orgy room

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>>8196714
I like this idea. It sounds like a sound idea, that can't go wrong. Lets do it and see what happens

>>8194953
If there's one thing I've learned from bmovies it's that you're never more than 10 feet away from a flamethrower

new bread incoming inna sec

>>8191513
I don't like that you put those generational ship people as "simpleton yokels" Just because they aren't up to date with current tech. Why not making them just honest farmers and not space rednecks?

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